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Apr 22 05:57:37 <neemo> alexanderhiam ds2 nerdboy: any recommendations? anything else I should look into?
Apr 22 05:58:25 <neemo> ping me here and I'll try to sort it out as soon as I see it
Apr 22 06:00:12 <neemo> since melange comments/gmail are a bit delayed because of the love-hate relationship here in China
Apr 22 14:24:45 <anujdeshpande> av500: ping
Apr 22 14:25:26 <av500> jo
Apr 22 15:25:36 <Abhishek_> Hi all
Apr 22 15:25:51 * Abhishek_ has been busy fighting endsems
Apr 22 15:26:09 <Abhishek_> 3 down, 2 more to go
Apr 22 15:32:10 <sohail> hello
Apr 22 15:40:42 <anujdeshpande> beagle.exe has crashed : http://9gag.com/gag/aKPK18j/beagle-exe-has-crashed
Apr 22 15:54:10 <geekswine> hahaha
Apr 22 16:13:15 <vmayoral|pc> greetins
Apr 22 16:14:36 <anujdeshpande> vmayoral|pc: #beagle-mentors
Apr 22 16:16:08 <_av500_> vmayoral: sec
Apr 22 16:17:26 <panto> hey
Apr 22 16:20:46 <Abhishek_> Hi panto
Apr 22 16:21:16 <karki_> av500 : add me (this is the verified nick)
Apr 22 16:21:18 <panto> hi Abhishek_
Apr 22 16:21:21 <karki_> :)
Apr 22 16:26:13 <guset21> hello want to ask can we use  the code developed by someone under bsd without notifying developer?
Apr 22 16:26:25 <guset21> or modify it?
Apr 22 16:26:32 <_av500_> guset21: yes and yes
Apr 22 16:26:41 <alexanderhiam> you could read the license ;)
Apr 22 16:27:13 <guset21> I could but alexanderhiam  but it is too long I think
Apr 22 16:27:14 <Abhishek_> Guest21: Provided you keep the license intact, yes.
Apr 22 16:27:22 <alexanderhiam> http://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-2-Clause
Apr 22 16:27:34 <Abhishek_> BSD license too long?
Apr 22 16:27:35 <alexanderhiam> about as short as a license can be
Apr 22 16:27:48 <alexanderhiam> a bit longer than open domain
Apr 22 16:28:15 <guset21> ohh looked at it.
Apr 22 16:28:47 <alexanderhiam> length is no excuse though, you should always read the full license of anything you want to build off of
Apr 22 16:29:54 <guset21> ya but in code that I am going to use has only comment  "Written by XXXXXXXX    This code is made available under the BSD license."
Apr 22 16:30:24 <guset21> so should I keep that part right?
Apr 22 16:30:36 <alexanderhiam> yes
Apr 22 16:30:46 <guset21> ok thanks alexanderhiam
Apr 22 16:31:12 <alexanderhiam> "1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer."
Apr 22 16:31:19 <alexanderhiam> - http://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-2-Clause
Apr 22 16:31:26 <guset21> yep
Apr 22 16:31:55 <guset21> out of curiosity want to ask that if some won't follow that clause what would be the result?
Apr 22 16:32:38 <_av500_> copyright infringement
Apr 22 16:32:48 <_av500_> as per the laws of your country
Apr 22 16:33:01 <guset21> ok
Apr 22 16:33:38 <Abhishek_> Apart from legal, It's going to be really bad ethically as well to your image as a software developer
Apr 22 16:33:55 <guset21> av500: provided some one files a case on you right?
Apr 22 16:34:24 <guset21> ya Abhishek_ that I know but want to know just as curiosity
Apr 22 16:34:47 <_av500_> guset21: as for all copyright infringement
Apr 22 16:34:57 <alexanderhiam> yes, it's up to the copyright holder to persue legal action
Apr 22 16:35:17 <Abhishek_> There has been cases, recently I remember one against VMware for violating the GPL
Apr 22 16:35:26 <Abhishek_> *have
Apr 22 16:35:53 <guset21> alexanderhiam:  Is there any system or software available to find out such kind of things?
Apr 22 16:36:02 <guset21> Abhishek_: ohh
Apr 22 16:37:18 <_av500_> find out what?
Apr 22 16:38:16 <_av500_> https://www.blackducksoftware.com/compliance
Apr 22 16:39:05 <rcn-ee> guset21, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox#GPL_lawsuits
Apr 22 17:21:42 <ankur> hey can anyone help me with android NDK
Apr 22 21:32:27 <Abhishek_> Ankur: good work
Apr 22 21:34:52 <ds2> arrrggg... please please... link to large files not send them out on a list
Apr 22 21:43:07 <Abhishek_> It's a 1 MB attachment
Apr 22 21:43:25 <ds2> it is a video
Apr 22 21:44:01 <ds2> not everyone on the list necessarily wants to view it and right now it is 1MB * number of people on the list
Apr 22 21:44:38 <ds2> in preperation for things, this is probally a good time to setup a blog anyways
Apr 22 21:44:52 <Abhishek_> Hmm, probably just upload it to YouTube
Apr 22 21:45:00 <ds2> or that
Apr 22 21:47:14 <Abhishek_> The selected students have to do a YouTube presentation describing what they are expected to do anyway
Apr 22 21:48:18 <ds2> *nod*
Apr 22 21:49:26 * Abhishek_ recounts recording the audio track for his slides last year trying for that perfect single take :)
Apr 22 21:50:00 <ds2> trying to out do eev dave?
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