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May 07 13:03:38 <webglider> vvu: So you finally made usb boot work on windows?
May 07 13:59:42 <vvu> webglider: yep
May 07 14:25:45 <webglider> vvu: congratulations! so what was the trick?
May 07 14:26:34 <vvu> from https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBlfs/blob/osx/src/main.c#L91 to #96
May 07 14:26:38 <vvu> i was not doing RNDIS init
May 07 14:28:09 <webglider> vvu: oic
May 07 15:37:31 <anujdeshpande> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer looks legit
May 07 15:48:05 <alexanderhiam> anujdeshpande: the price doesn't look legit
May 07 15:48:29 <anujdeshpande> $9 too cheap to be true ?
May 07 15:48:54 <anujdeshpande> i thought so too, but haxlr8r seems to be involved. might take a leap of faith :D
May 07 15:49:03 <alexanderhiam> I'd say so, especially if they're only going for $50k
May 07 15:49:12 <alexanderhiam> there's no way they'll be making a profit
May 07 15:50:15 <alexanderhiam> their intentions seem legit, but I suspect they haven't really factored in all the manufacturing costs
May 07 15:51:13 <anujdeshpande> well they say they have spoken to Allwiner directly. did you check out the make article yet ?
May 07 15:51:16 <anujdeshpande> more info there
May 07 15:51:32 <alexanderhiam> I haven't looked into it at all
May 07 15:51:38 <anujdeshpande> http://makezine.com/2015/05/07/next-thing-co-releases-worlds-first-9-computer/
May 07 15:51:39 <alexanderhiam> just my first impression
May 07 15:52:27 <alexanderhiam> but just the PCB and connectors alone wouldn't give them much margin at all at $9
May 07 15:52:57 <alexanderhiam> unless they use the crappiest of cheap crappy parts
May 07 15:54:22 <anujdeshpande> yeah I bet they are doing that. the boards look like crap in the campaign, won’t be any better in real life. read up a little. not their first project, so trust them a slightly more than i normally would.
May 07 15:55:42 <alexanderhiam> yeah, I mean it's certainly possible, but it's probably gonna be a piece of junk
May 07 15:56:26 <anujdeshpande> that’s still ok if it’s $9
May 07 15:56:26 <alexanderhiam> but maybe a $9 throw-away Linux board is a good thing
May 07 15:56:45 <anujdeshpande> unless i spend more time debugging broken vias or something :D
May 07 15:56:55 <anujdeshpande> (hope it’s not that bad)
May 07 15:57:09 <alexanderhiam> exactly
May 07 15:57:31 <alexanderhiam> at least "CHIP runs mainline Linux"
May 07 16:00:41 <alexanderhiam> $10 3Ah battery, everything is straight from Shenzhen
May 07 16:01:29 <alexanderhiam> I predict a lot of reliability issues
May 07 16:05:59 <vvu> oh well $9 :)
May 07 16:06:08 <vvu> reliability issues included
May 07 16:07:31 <anujdeshpande> it’s too throwaway to not get atleast one i guess. if it’s any good, will get more from retail (if they ever do that)
May 07 16:09:10 <ankur> anujdeshpande: I download packtHAL code from packtpub website. Is there any github repo for that?
May 07 16:10:28 <anujdeshpande> not afaik
May 07 16:11:16 <ankur> ok
May 07 16:11:34 <anujdeshpande> “a working prototype,  though it uses the older A13. “ .. that means no working prototype.
May 07 16:12:11 <Abhishek_> gm
May 07 16:12:41 <Abhishek_> Hi jkridner
May 07 16:13:43 <anujdeshpande> they are also charging $50 extra if you are a ‘kernel hacker’ so that you get it early and can hack on it. weird
May 07 16:13:53 * vvu fiddles with windows on external hdd drive
May 07 16:24:31 * moto-timo got vvu's osx building on travis-ci \o/
May 07 16:27:18 <vvu> moto-timo: it is already doing that i think so
May 07 16:28:15 <moto-timo> vvu: I just mean I got it to work for me... first time with travis-ci for me :)
May 07 16:28:30 <vvu> ah ok
May 07 16:28:45 <moto-timo> vvu: baby steps :)
May 07 16:28:53 <vvu> it is also building .pkg for the kext but not saving the result anywhere :) just as a test
May 07 16:29:47 <vvu> do you have time these days to test it ?
May 07 16:30:34 <moto-timo> vvu: I'll do that between now and next week's meeting :)
May 07 16:30:40 <vvu> ok perfect
May 07 16:31:53 <moto-timo> can we save it to github.io?
May 07 16:32:30 <vvu> i have a github.io page but did not look on how to commit and push from inside travis
May 07 16:32:43 <moto-timo> I'll start investigating
May 07 16:32:56 <moto-timo> I maintain the jenkins-ci at work so... not new ground
May 07 16:33:03 <vvu> perfect
May 07 16:33:14 <vvu> you are using jenkins for osx dev ?
May 07 16:33:34 <moto-timo> at work no. At home, not yet
May 07 16:34:48 <vvu> always wanted to do some osx dev but never found the time...other pesky things got me busy
May 07 16:34:53 <moto-timo> work is C# on windows and bare metal embedded hardware
May 07 16:35:07 <moto-timo> time is a four letter word for me
May 07 16:35:19 <moto-timo> I would clone myself four times and still not be satisfied
May 07 16:36:31 <vvu> moto-timo: when building locally pay attention to install libusb from brew --without-runtime-logging
May 07 16:36:43 <vvu> this kept me almost 3 h to figure out why it was not working
May 07 16:36:57 <moto-timo> ahh... good to know
May 07 16:36:59 <vvu> my terminal hangs when it receives too many logs, iTerm.app and Terminal.app
May 07 16:37:02 <vvu> both of them
May 07 16:37:11 <moto-timo> I use MacPorts, but it seems brew can live side by side
May 07 16:38:12 <vvu> if the libusb from macports works nicely feel free to edit the readme.md
May 07 16:39:07 <moto-timo> that's a big if :) I have a heck of a time on windows with usb drivers...
May 07 16:39:18 <vvu> used libusb ?
May 07 16:39:41 <moto-timo> yes, but it doesn't play nice with other libs I am forced to use for product
May 07 16:40:00 <moto-timo> I always have to disable/uninstall and do a rain dance
May 07 16:40:29 <vvu> same here with the kext...if i dry to use the bbb in windows the vm cannot get it from osx because of bbblfs.kext
May 07 16:40:32 <vvu> has bigger probe score
May 07 16:40:34 * moto-timo will use VMs some day and be happy
May 07 16:41:30 <moto-timo> ouch
May 07 16:41:43 <vvu> remove, reboot go into VM
May 07 16:41:46 <moto-timo> I run parallels on the mac so I'll share the pain
May 07 20:26:34 <azizulhakim> praveendath92: I tested with a simple RLE on framebuffer, but I don't see any significant change in the size of the final buffer. Seems like the buffer contains widely random bytes. When you tried with RLE, did you see significant reduction in buffer size?
May 07 20:28:23 <praveendath92> What's your RLE basic unit size?
May 07 20:28:25 <praveendath92> Byte or 2
May 07 20:28:27 <praveendath92> ?
May 07 20:29:51 <azizulhakim> byte
May 07 20:30:30 <praveendath92> With Byte there should be no improvement.
May 07 20:30:40 <praveendath92> Because each pixel is 2 bytes.
May 07 20:30:50 <praveendath92> Try with 2 byte
May 07 20:32:42 <azizulhakim> I see, so compare two bytes with next two bytes?
May 07 20:32:48 <praveendath92> Yes.
May 07 20:33:08 <praveendath92> If you compare bytes, you are comparing half of this pixel with other half.
May 07 20:33:28 <azizulhakim> got it.
May 07 20:34:09 <praveendath92> If I understood it right, even the original was using a byte. Not sure why it should work.
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