**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 15 02:59:58 2015 Jul 15 09:34:45 Gm Jul 15 09:35:53 * Abhishek__ looks for the status updates on last week Jul 15 13:14:47 gm all Jul 15 14:09:37 moto-timo: the build looks normal to me, the files are there. when the zip is created it also should include the files. it could be that at some stage the build directory is cleared, before compressing. Jul 15 14:43:04 shubhangi: Where do you get stuck while attempting to troubleshoot unloading and reloading the pruss driver module? Jul 15 15:15:21 Abhishek__: did you tru the patches i mailed ? Jul 15 15:15:25 try* Jul 15 15:17:31 Abhishek__: it only goes till here https://gist.github.com/shubhi1407/6f525aa1a2cc2a05d663 Jul 15 15:17:51 not yet Jul 15 15:23:15 i can resolve it .. it will just take some time .. i was working with beagleboard's 4.1 branch until now which has a very different omap devices directory as compared to 3.14. i should have worked on mainline as rcn-ee pointed out later Jul 15 15:37:36 evening beaglers Jul 15 15:40:57 morning anujdeshpande Jul 15 15:42:08 shubhangi, apaar: are you staying in sync about how pru-bridge and the framework will fit together? Jul 15 15:43:00 alexanderhiam :i have been rather sick last week or so i was thinking of working on the once i iron out some of the issues that still remain Jul 15 15:46:48 moin Jul 15 15:48:18 arianepaola: did you figure out why the .zip was corrupt? Jul 15 15:51:31 jkridner: reposting: moto-timo: the build looks normal to me, the files are there. when the zip is created it also should include the files. it could be that at some stage the build directory is cleared, before compressing. Jul 15 15:51:41 jkridner: I am still looking into it. Jul 15 15:52:54 morninh! Jul 15 15:53:21 hola alexanderhiam Jul 15 15:53:42 * anujdeshpande is looking forward to some BeagleSNES hacking today Jul 15 15:54:12 https://github.com/hendersa/bes Jul 15 15:54:22 greetings everyone Jul 15 15:54:31 Morning. Jul 15 15:54:42 anujdeshpande: BES is going to be the active project moving forward. Jul 15 15:54:44 hendersa: exactly :D ! also, what’s your go to place for getting roms ? Jul 15 15:54:57 * hendersa clears his throat. Jul 15 15:55:01 <_av500_> jkridner: ping Jul 15 15:55:08 hi Jul 15 15:55:10 <_av500_> hi Jul 15 15:55:19 <_av500_> can you lead today Jul 15 15:55:22 <_av500_> my net is bad atm Jul 15 15:55:31 anujdeshpande: Why, I don't know. I wouldn't be in a position to know such things. Jul 15 15:55:51 hah Jul 15 15:56:00 _av500_: i will try. might run it slightly different... who is going to present today? Jul 15 15:56:14 <_av500_> sec Jul 15 15:56:21 jkridner: i believe ankur is one Jul 15 15:56:27 <_av500_> ebadawy Jul 15 15:56:27 <_av500_> ankur Jul 15 15:56:34 * anujdeshpande also believes Neo is the one Jul 15 15:56:44 Woohoo! ankur_ is up. Jul 15 15:56:47 jkridner, _av500_: i'd like to raise some serious concerns Jul 15 15:56:49 * hendersa throws peanuts. Jul 15 15:56:55 _av500_: here Jul 15 15:57:28 jkridner, _av500_: we are not pleased at all with rohith performance and current status seems a joke Jul 15 15:57:46 hendersa: https://hackaday.io/project/4410/log/20871-new-ips-displays Jul 15 15:57:48 _rohith: you around? Jul 15 15:58:00 jkridner: here Jul 15 15:58:02 vmayoral|pc: thanks for joining. Jul 15 15:58:19 vmayoral|pc: This week was very hectic Jul 15 15:58:31 rohith: seems you have a huge uphill climb to finish your project. hope you will be in here every day asking for help. Jul 15 15:58:37 hello ebadawy, jkridner and rest of irc members :) Jul 15 15:58:38 rohith: we've discussed this by e-mail Jul 15 15:58:51 rohith: and i requested information about the daily dedicatoin Jul 15 15:59:00 Hi DiegoTc :) Jul 15 15:59:02 * nerdboy waves at DiegoTc Jul 15 15:59:14 hendersa: anujdeshpande: have you checked out videos Jul 15 15:59:18 okay, so 5 minutes grace period is about to begin Jul 15 15:59:19 rohith: you answered 5-6 hours per day, which honestly, at this stage is hard to believe Jul 15 15:59:31 any suggestions for improvement? Jul 15 15:59:32 rohith: additionally, this is far from what you compromised in your proposal Jul 15 15:59:41 rohith: where you stated full time dedication Jul 15 15:59:54 ankur_: didn’t see anything on the blog earlier today ? Jul 15 15:59:54 good morning Jul 15 15:59:58 rohith: there's been about 5 different excuses i've heard from you Jul 15 16:00:00 jkridner vmayoral|pc: The project is quite complex. I had put in time to resolve the compilation errors but couldn't figure out the cause. Jul 15 16:00:10 hi nerdboy Jul 15 16:00:13 anujdeshpande: check weekly report Jul 15 16:00:17 arianepaola: that makes sense that the build was being cleaned before it got zipped Jul 15 16:00:22 okay, seems we have most of students already. rohith, ankur_, ebadawy, arianepaola, azizulhakim, shubhangi.... Jul 15 16:00:22 ahh Jul 15 16:00:25 what happened to neemo Jul 15 16:00:36 here Jul 15 16:00:50 and as I had intimated earlier, my holidays had come to an end and had to travel to my university Jul 15 16:01:01 apaar is also around. Jul 15 16:01:27 here was on another window :P Jul 15 16:01:50 so we're just missing neemo Jul 15 16:01:58 ebadawy: are you idle?... haven't seen anything from you for a bit. Jul 15 16:02:10 we have an ambush appt later today... Jul 15 16:02:25 ankur_: it’ll be easier to create circuit diagrams using fritzing. the ones you have used are fine too, but must be tedious you Jul 15 16:02:28 jkridner: still working local :( Jul 15 16:03:04 anujdeshpande: I will use it next time for sure Jul 15 16:03:06 vmayoral|pc: Also went through a couple of research papers since you asked me to look into the implementation of the dynamic model for the underwater vehicle. It seems to involve a lot of research and hands on interaction with the vehicle and its movements under the influence of its environment to design the model specific for it. Jul 15 16:03:07 rohith: can you show me your build errors after the mtg? Jul 15 16:03:23 jkridner: this week was packed with some days off here in my country due to some holidays... Jul 15 16:03:24 vmayoral|pc: Sure Jul 15 16:03:35 rohith: i clarified that matter weeks ago Jul 15 16:03:42 when we interacted onsite with the OpenROV Jul 15 16:03:42 guys Jul 15 16:03:59 jkridner: I'll try to have more effort for the next week Jul 15 16:04:02 ankur_: I have not seen any videos beyond the initial one. Do you have links? Jul 15 16:04:08 I'm seeing reports from azizulhakim, arianepaola, apaar, rohith, shubhangi, ankur_, ebadawy. Jul 15 16:04:11 rohith: https://gitter.im/OpenROV/discuss Jul 15 16:04:15 ankur_: FYI http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Fritzing_on_the_BeagleBone_Black Jul 15 16:04:33 there's no need for dynamical model implementation, neither the fact of going through papers Jul 15 16:04:42 rohith: and i clearly never asked you to do that Jul 15 16:04:46 since GSOC is about coding Jul 15 16:04:49 hendersa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A9nzUyZhK0&list=PLDNV7JsQ-z7qSjSL-pHxOOhNqTjHKsa9R Jul 15 16:05:01 i probably asked to look at several material on the bonding period Jul 15 16:05:07 which you clearly did not Jul 15 16:05:14 vmayoral|pc: But you mentioned implementing the dynamic model in a mail dated the 10th of July titled "Commits and status:.. Jul 15 16:05:48 rohith: review https://gitter.im/OpenROV/discuss Jul 15 16:06:00 Am I missing neemo's report too? Jul 15 16:06:04 where we clarified weeks ago Jul 15 16:06:17 yeah, looks like the kid is late this week Jul 15 16:06:22 Abhishek__: I saw the hackaday news item on your cape the other day. Good work! Jul 15 16:06:32 vmayoral|pc: Yes. I remember the interaction but since you mentioned it again, I decided to research a bit. Jul 15 16:07:00 rohith: look, i've heard from you that you had exams, then it was that you had an "eye-sickness", then you couldn't put enough time, now University restarts and you can't compromise more than 5-6 hours per day??? Jul 15 16:07:03 vmayoral|pc: Will not go into it if not required. Jul 15 16:07:05 ankur_: looks great ! very thorough ! good job :D Jul 15 16:07:11 rohith: though it was clear that you were behind the schedule Jul 15 16:07:23 anujdeshpande: thanks :D Jul 15 16:07:26 seems we are at the 5 minutes late cut-off. no show for neemo? Jul 15 16:07:31 vmayoral|pc: All of it was genuine... Jul 15 16:07:42 ankur_: I see. I was looking at the youtube account for the original video, not your Google+ account on youtube. Jul 15 16:08:00 thanks hendersa. I'd like to try and run android on my BBB, not sure if I'll need to recompile an image Jul 15 16:08:08 ahh, found neemo's report on BeagleSat Jul 15 16:08:10 vmayoral|pc: The exams ate into just a couple of days at the beginning of the program. Jul 15 16:08:24 yikes, last one was June 24!?!? Jul 15 16:08:30 nerdboy: what's going on with neemo? Jul 15 16:08:34 vmayoral|pc: Trying to still accomplish as much as possible... Jul 15 16:08:46 last message from neemo was about travelling: neemo: I'm leaving the airport and will be offline for a bit, but I'll pop by again later today Jul 15 16:08:50 last one is last week Jul 15 16:09:19 look at https://github.com/nvisnjic/BeagleSat says last commit was a week ago Jul 15 16:09:19 nerdboy: oh, right, I needed to scroll down to the Jul 8... all on one thread. Jul 15 16:09:38 rohith: I also requested you to maintain https://github.com/BeaglePilot2/meta/blob/master/StatusReport.md so that we could follow up your traces Jul 15 16:09:48 nerdboy, Abhishek__: it isn't good for him to check out for a week and not provide a status report. Jul 15 16:09:53 like i said, ambush appt later today Jul 15 16:10:03 nerdboy: right. now I get that comment. thanks. Jul 15 16:10:08 rohith: look, i'm really supportive towards the project, and clearly the OpenROV community is as supportive which is great Jul 15 16:10:10 he did not say he was out for this morning tho Jul 15 16:10:29 arianepaola: any blockers? Jul 15 16:10:40 rohith: any blockers? Jul 15 16:10:50 azizulhakim_: any blockers? Jul 15 16:11:07 jkridner: all good Jul 15 16:11:08 jkridner: no, had some issues with priveliges with nodejs, but I think I am getting around resolving these (e.g. for flashing running as admin / root) Jul 15 16:11:15 shubhangi: any blockers? Jul 15 16:12:04 ebadawy, ankur_: both ready? who wants to present first? Jul 15 16:12:10 rohith: can you compromise yourself to commit "every single day" from now on? Jul 15 16:12:19 me Jul 15 16:12:23 jkridner: I'm ready Jul 15 16:12:27 apaar: any blockers? Jul 15 16:12:49 nope :) Jul 15 16:12:50 :-) guess ankur_ was faster on the draw. first, apaar: any blockers? Jul 15 16:13:00 jkridner: The problem was that some of the details mentioned in the proposal were not feasible, such as speed estimation and dynamic model. Otherwise, the compilation of the vehicle code is kind of a blocking issue. Jul 15 16:13:00 great, why don't you get started ankur_ Jul 15 16:13:20 jkridner: not for now. just that time seems to be running too fast :| Jul 15 16:13:21 rohith: let's hang out after the meeting to discuss this potential blocker. Jul 15 16:13:36 vmayoral|pc: I'm trying to get as much done as possible during the program. Jul 15 16:13:39 project name: Demo Android app using BBBAndroid Jul 15 16:13:49 post a build log after mtg please Jul 15 16:14:25 rohith: i've asked a specific question, can you compromise yourself to "commit your daily progress everyday" (as i've requested several times already)? Jul 15 16:14:27 vmayoral|pc: Otherwise, I'm willing to continue the project even after the GSoC period if required to achieve the target. Jul 15 16:14:42 jkridner DiegoTc: I might need you in the middle of the next week, just want to work with the original code of BBUI first. Jul 15 16:14:43 vmayoral|pc: Sure. Jul 15 16:15:00 rohith: great then! Jul 15 16:15:00 objective: To develop HAL that can be used to easily develop android application for BBBAndroid (i. e BeagleBone Android). Jul 15 16:15:04 ebadawy: OK Jul 15 16:15:43 also to develop example applications using that HAL Jul 15 16:16:09 repositories: HAL repo: https://github.com/ankurayadav/bbbandroidHAL Jul 15 16:16:20 demo apps repo: https://github.com/ankurayadav/demoapps-bbbandroid Jul 15 16:16:42 jkridner, _av500_: i'll unblock rohith, and he should be able to progress from here porting OpenROV code. Please note that at this stage I have my serious doubts about the compromise of the student Jul 15 16:16:57 Some easy steps for creating Android app for BeagleBone Jul 15 16:17:25 Step1: Create new android project in eclipse Jul 15 16:17:53 ankur_: is there a step-by-step for setting up the BeagleBone? Jul 15 16:18:03 * nerdboy wanted something to beat on while waiting for ambush mtg... Jul 15 16:18:28 jkridner: I am giving steps for using HAL Jul 15 16:18:36 for making Android App Jul 15 16:18:52 * jkridner let's ankur_ finish. Jul 15 16:19:25 Step2: Copy jni folder form bbbandroidHAL to your android project Jul 15 16:19:52 this jni folder contains all the native code for accessing the peripherals support of beaglebone Jul 15 16:20:58 * hendersa notes that ankur_ has made YouTube videos showing this process. Jul 15 16:21:10 Step3: Change JAVA_CLASS_PATH macro value from jni_wrapper.c Jul 15 16:21:32 So, I have tried to make jni_wrapper.c generic Jul 15 16:22:28 ankur_: why doesn't README.md or http://ankurayadav.github.io/bbbandroidHAL/ have these steps? Jul 15 16:22:36 Step4: After changing proper configuration of Android.mk. We can call ndk-build to build library Jul 15 16:23:05 jkridner: Will change it soon Jul 15 16:24:16 So, now we have library file generated in lib/armeabi folder Jul 15 16:24:44 we can include it in our MainActivity.java file of Android app Jul 15 16:25:09 and after declaring prototype of native functions we can use them in Android App Jul 15 16:25:17 Any questions? Jul 15 16:25:21 ankur_: generating the HAL library file in lib/armeabi is a one-time process? why not provide a pre-built one as well? Jul 15 16:26:10 we need to change JAVA_CLASS_PATH macro value for each application Jul 15 16:26:24 otherwise we have to make all project with same name Jul 15 16:27:25 the HAL library provides access to GPIO/PWM/ADC/I2C-DEV/SPI-DEV right? seems the library also has CAN/UART. anything else? doing examples for all of them? Jul 15 16:28:05 * alexanderhiam has to go afk for a bit, will catch up on the logs when I get back Jul 15 16:28:07 that JAVA_CLASS_PATH limitation sounds odd. Jul 15 16:28:07 I have demo apps for GPIO, PWM, ADC, I2C, SPI Jul 15 16:28:14 * nerdboy afk for a sec Jul 15 16:28:35 ankur_: what kernel and overlays are supported? Jul 15 16:28:47 hendersa: can we remove this limitation? Jul 15 16:29:34 jkridner: bbbandroid has kernel 3.8 Jul 15 16:29:35 ankur_: You'll always need the JNI wrapper, though the majority of the library can be abstracted away into its own shared library and put into the base BBBAndroid installation for global use. Jul 15 16:29:39 ankur_: will you support the 4.1 kernel? Jul 15 16:30:39 ankur_, hendersa: I'm just looking for ways to lower the barriers to usage. if anything can be pre-built in addition to providing source, it seems like that'd be good. Jul 15 16:30:48 jkridner: We can, once BBBAndroid moves to that kernel. The HAL ankur_ is working on requires overlays to be loaded. With 3.8, we load it at Android init time. Jul 15 16:31:26 jkridner: Sure. My plans are to examine ankur_'s work and figure out what t break out and pre-package within BBBAndroid. Jul 15 16:31:27 hendersa: k. single overlay? have you looked at the cape-universal approach? Jul 15 16:32:06 hendersa: great. I know there will be a documentation time, but it would be good to encourage usage now, during development, while feedback can still be taken. Jul 15 16:32:23 * jkridner wishes we could get students to try out all the other students' work. Jul 15 16:32:28 jkridner: Sure have. But, I've been avoiding having the end user recompile the overlays if possible, but we should go that route in the future. Jul 15 16:32:42 ankur_: got anything more to tell us about the example apps and which others you'll be doing? Jul 15 16:32:51 ankur_: how far along are you in your coding? Jul 15 16:33:20 I have developed app for GPIO, PWM, ADC, I2C and SPI Jul 15 16:33:39 ankur_: https://youtu.be/kClZ9tXeJV4?t=19m41s video gets stuck around here ? one suggestion to the PWM app is to add a slider in the app or use the onboard slider ie combine the adc app and the pwm app. that’ll be a pretty neat demo, controlling the led intensity using the slider (just like demos for bacone cape) Jul 15 16:33:40 will be developing apps for UART, USB and CAN Jul 15 16:34:17 hendersa: to get more people to try it out, having a chroot folder for Android would be interesting. I know it is more typically done the other way. Just brainstorming. Jul 15 16:34:19 anujdeshpande: That was about to come Jul 15 16:34:59 * moto-timo likes blinky lights Jul 15 16:35:05 great ! everything else looks great in the 3 videos from today Jul 15 16:35:19 moto-timo: who doesn’t :D Jul 15 16:35:42 ankur_: screenshots of the various apps in the github repo README.md files would be handy to encourage people to try the code. Jul 15 16:36:03 ankur_: to sum up : 1. Jul 15 16:36:15 jkridner: will do that Jul 15 16:36:42 ankur_: can we get started with ebadawy? Jul 15 16:37:02 ankur_: to sum up : 1. thorough readme 2. screenshots Jul 15 16:37:05 yes plz. Thats all from me. Thanks Jul 15 16:37:11 rohith: i've applied a provisional patch to your existing master branch at https://github.com/BeaglePilot2/ardupilot/tree/quick-fix-unblock Jul 15 16:37:24 ebadawy: please get started. Jul 15 16:37:27 okay Jul 15 16:37:33 anujdeshpande: I thought I will do documentation after coding Jul 15 16:37:35 I'm working on bone101 project Jul 15 16:37:41 rohith: it's suprising for me that you "have not been able to continue developing" when commenting out the appropriate function calls did it. Jul 15 16:37:54 which is basically a platform for creating tutrials for BBB Jul 15 16:37:57 vmayoral|pc: Thanks Jul 15 16:37:58 rohith: the issue anyhow arises from a bad instantiation of the DataFlash classes Jul 15 16:38:10 rohith: have a deeper look there Jul 15 16:38:24 vmayoral|pc: Okay. Will do. Jul 15 16:38:33 it is running with bonescript, which is a javascript lib the make it easy to control your board from a web page Jul 15 16:38:34 ankur_: yepp, just noting down the minutes of the meeting for today Jul 15 16:38:37 rohith: in the following days i'd expect a daily report and commits Jul 15 16:38:47 hmmm Jul 15 16:38:55 rohith: leave your progress at https://github.com/BeaglePilot2/meta/blob/master/StatusReport.md Jul 15 16:39:00 rohith, vmayoral|pc: please hold until ebadawy is done. Jul 15 16:39:10 jkridner: apologies Jul 15 16:39:20 my task is to make some static web pages using jekyll for that and github pages as a host Jul 15 16:39:45 it is mainly target newbie, so it should be as easy as possible to understand and work with Jul 15 16:40:00 the concept behinde it is that you can login with the github account Jul 15 16:40:08 make a tutorial and save it as gist Jul 15 16:40:19 and then share it with any one else Jul 15 16:40:41 nice Jul 15 16:40:54 what I've done so far is making a closed cycle for it, that you can make your tutorial Jul 15 16:41:13 and see how it looks, and show the tutorial that you have made Jul 15 16:41:35 I beleive at some point we will need your feedback, but you can give it a try now if you want Jul 15 16:41:45 jadonk.github.io/bone101 Jul 15 16:42:14 and if there is anything, you can make an issue for it on this repo ,, github.com/jadonk/bone101 Jul 15 16:42:25 questions so far? Jul 15 16:42:57 okay Jul 15 16:43:06 ebadawy: fyi, I think you need to use http://ehab93.github.io/bone101 as github login isn't working for me on jadonk.github.io/bone101 Jul 15 16:43:26 ebadawy: do you have a set of tutorials to share as an example? Jul 15 16:43:46 jkridner: I guess that I have fixed that. Jul 15 16:44:09 all tutorials that I have done was fake ones! :) Jul 15 16:44:09 ebadawy: seems it currently only shows "my tutorials" if I visit http://ehab93.github.io/bone101/Support/bonecard/ and go to the pull-down. Jul 15 16:44:23 ebadawy: just to give people an idea what they look like. Jul 15 16:44:37 ebadawy: then you can go on to talk about all the functionality you plan to make. Jul 15 16:45:13 ebadawy: this is an id if a tutorial: 5cffc9f94f8a61daffad Jul 15 16:45:34 concat to the way of showing it Jul 15 16:45:56 I can make one now, as I have removed the ones that I did Jul 15 16:46:06 but any one can do it now I think. Jul 15 16:47:00 ebadawy: fyi, http://ehab93.github.io/bone101/Support/bonecard/tutorial/?gist_id=8685fbb56a0f33b3642e fails to show a card to me. Jul 15 16:47:55 ebadawy: please go on telling us about what functionality you plan to implement. Jul 15 16:48:24 ebadawy: I hope people have the basic idea that a github gist == a tutorial presented as 'bonecards' Jul 15 16:49:25 ebadawy: talk about the BBUI :) Jul 15 16:50:29 seems that I last my connection :( Jul 15 16:50:55 this one works Jul 15 16:50:56 http://jadonk.github.io/bone101/Support/bonecard/tutorial/?gist_id=bf556f61e591363eea63 Jul 15 16:51:06 ebadawy_: talk about the functionality Jul 15 16:51:08 you're adding Jul 15 16:51:14 okay Jul 15 16:52:08 currently, I'm working on BBUI, it is a nice tool that can let you show how your tutorial works in action Jul 15 16:52:45 something like showing how it is connections sets with sensors and other stuff Jul 15 16:52:50 jadonk.github.io/Beaglebone-UI/BBUI.html Jul 15 16:52:57 that it how it looks Jul 15 16:53:14 my task is to integrated it with bonecard Jul 15 16:53:28 if you want to see it on action: http://jadonk.github.io/Beaglebone-UI/BBUI.html Jul 15 16:53:51 so it is even more easy for a newbie to understand how it works Jul 15 16:55:13 finally setp 'I guess' is fix any bugs with the project and make more tutorials as an examples to let people see how it works Jul 15 16:55:18 final* Jul 15 16:55:45 ebadawy_: are you going to adjust how the existing tutorials are presented? Jul 15 16:56:23 ebadawy_: are you going to support having tutorials in the github pages themselves and not only in gists? Jul 15 16:56:23 jkridner: you mean the tutorials that the user did, or bone101 tutorials? Jul 15 16:56:33 the bone101 tutorials. Jul 15 16:57:08 I think this one should be in the index file 'Suppot/bone101/index Jul 15 16:57:20 the original goal of bonecard was to make the bone101 tutorials look nicer and encourage people to 'fork' them in gists and be able to create a lot more new ones that could eventually be submitted back for inclusion in bone101. Jul 15 16:57:59 yeah, I'm working on that. Jul 15 16:58:21 but hava no other idea but to show is as the ones in my_tutorials page. Jul 15 16:58:22 the bone101/index file needs to have a bunch of documentation, but the individual tutorials themselves could be in the bonecard format and there could be a bonecard listing of them. Jul 15 16:58:41 anyone else have questions/suggestions? Jul 15 16:58:52 I rather prefere to move these documenation to other pages Jul 15 16:59:01 I have one, the bone101, should have all the documentation Jul 15 16:59:01 rohith: i've reworked your fix Jul 15 16:59:09 and a section of according showing the tutorials? Jul 15 16:59:11 rohith: submitted a new one to https://github.com/BeaglePilot2/ardupilot/tree/fix-unblock Jul 15 16:59:16 in the bonecard way? Jul 15 16:59:29 rohith: you should be able to keep building on top of that Jul 15 16:59:58 DiegoTc: if i got you right it should be the case now with my_tutorials page, right? Jul 15 17:00:49 yes, but want to know jkridner opinion Jul 15 17:00:55 what I am thinking is the bone101 tutorias should be the first thing to appear, and move currenly documention to other page. Jul 15 17:00:59 don't want you to do something and we misunderstood him Jul 15 17:01:20 sure, jkridner ^? Jul 15 17:01:54 ebadawy_: i think the "my_tutorials" page is your own private collection... /Support/bonecard should have the array of provided cards and they should be referenced by the left-side menu and individually addressable as /Support/bonecard/tutorial (or /Support/bone101/tutorial to support old links?) Jul 15 17:02:45 the existing bone101 material is fine to show unless it can be improved, but there should be several funnels into the bonecard tutorials. Jul 15 17:03:03 jkridner: I look ebadawy_ idea more clear. having on the index.html on the top of the page some small documentation with links to other pages Jul 15 17:03:15 and bellow the tutorial list, similar to my tutorial Jul 15 17:03:16 I don't see the bonecard tutorials as a replacement for /Support/bone101/index, but instead as a replacement for all the individual tutorials. Jul 15 17:03:47 if it is just ebadawy_, DiegoTc and I discussing, we shall end the official meeting and can continue individual project discussions. Jul 15 17:04:07 see you all next week! Jul 15 17:04:14 OK Jul 15 17:05:11 jkridner DiegoTc: I guess this case is important for me to discuss Jul 15 17:05:16 DiegoTc, ebadawy_: I'm OK if you want to simplify/reduce the text a bit to make it less intimidating, but all of the same information must be preserved. Jul 15 17:06:09 what was thinking of is the boen101 tutorials shoul be the frist thing to show Jul 15 17:06:24 and how it works should be in another documentation page Jul 15 17:07:12 jkridner DiegoTc: can I have a 10 min for a breakfast, sorry for that, that is its time now after a fasting day :) Jul 15 17:07:13 ebadawy_, DiegoTc: btw, we need to figure out how to do some size reduction and make /static/* content really all be static. .js files that have jekyll scripts in them are going to need to be dropped in another folder, perhaps /Support/javascript or something... without breaking anything that might have had an external reference.... then we need to figure out how to make jeyll not duplicate the content in /static that i Jul 15 17:07:14 s rather large and eating up diskspace on the BeagleBones. Jul 15 17:07:19 alexanderhiam: if you can, keep your eyes open in case he shows up Jul 15 17:07:39 ebadawy_: sure. I might be gone, but will be back later tonight. Jul 15 17:07:57 * nerdboy fixing another upstream oops Jul 15 17:08:02 jkridner: we're forgetting the stop and run botton Jul 15 17:08:02 ebadawy_, DiegoTc: do try to be logged in as much as you can. Jul 15 17:08:02 okay, I'll try to ping you later :) Jul 15 17:08:07 for running the scripts Jul 15 17:08:18 I just remember of then Jul 15 17:08:19 DiegoTc: good point... really need that stop button. Jul 15 17:08:37 DiegoTc: also need to clean up the view of them and association to an individual code page. Jul 15 17:09:07 DiegoTc: it seems ebadawy_ has found some script for trying to run them in some synchronous way that might enable stopping, but I'm not so sure. Jul 15 17:09:44 DiegoTc: scripts create event handlers (timers, etc.) so we need to make sure they don't leak. Jul 15 17:10:07 rohith: are you unblocked now based on the inputs during this meeting? Jul 15 17:10:19 * jkridner looks around for vmayoral|pc Jul 15 17:10:22 jkridner: I did the stop button and did work. 100% of that Jul 15 17:10:32 but I don't remember the crazy hackj I did Jul 15 17:10:44 I'm going to check that Jul 15 17:10:44 nodebotanist, julianduque: I was surprised you didn't have any inputs/queries for ebadawy_ Jul 15 17:10:58 nodebotanist, julianduque: did you have similar for arianepaola? Jul 15 17:11:22 _av500_: did I forget to get students on the hook for next week? Jul 15 17:11:40 _av500_: can you connect with students via e-mail for that? Jul 15 17:22:33 <_av500_> jkridner: will do Jul 15 17:22:36 <_av500_> thx Jul 16 01:23:09 nerdboy: making a Gcall? Jul 16 01:23:35 can't join other channel as this nick, hang on a sec... Jul 16 01:23:42 nps Jul 16 01:29:12 mr_science: alexanderhiam -> https://hackpad.com/BeagleSat-API-Design-0FXp3librUm Jul 16 01:57:02 mr_science: my connection, dropped, try to readded me to the call if you can Jul 16 02:30:43 i thought internet there was awesome... Jul 16 02:31:02 couldn't be much worse than here Jul 16 02:33:54 mr_science: twas, but not the free one in the shopping mall Jul 16 02:34:14 but yeah, the fact that I can use things without vpn is AMAZING Jul 16 02:34:44 so much, that it's one of the top things on the list when I'm balancing out staying/leaving china Jul 16 02:34:52 which is funny and kinda sad at the same time Jul 16 02:35:24 bad internet + work to be done => lots of frustrations Jul 16 02:35:43 but I got a good connection now in SH, so should be easy sailing going forward :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 16 02:59:59 2015