**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 12 02:59:59 2015 Aug 12 07:31:17 imuguruza: ping Aug 12 07:35:29 There is a problem while executing APMsubmarine.elf Aug 12 07:35:45 ./APMsubmarine.elf: /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by ./APMsubmarine.elf) Aug 12 07:36:15 The version of libc6 on the image is 2.13-38+deb7u1 Aug 12 07:36:27 imuguruza: ^ Aug 12 07:40:48 uhmm Aug 12 07:41:05 which cross-compiler have you have used? Aug 12 07:41:25 gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf Aug 12 07:41:32 but which version? Aug 12 07:41:41 4.8 Aug 12 07:42:05 The default version in Ubuntu 14.04 repositories Aug 12 07:43:08 imuguruza: ^ Aug 12 07:43:18 i'm checking which one I haev Aug 12 07:43:25 Okay Aug 12 07:43:35 I also have that one Aug 12 07:43:47 how have you compile it? Aug 12 07:43:49 make pxf? Aug 12 07:44:00 or make linux? Aug 12 07:44:00 Maybe Debian Jessie will have a newer version? Aug 12 07:44:05 make pxf Aug 12 07:44:17 no 'cause I use 12.04 Aug 12 07:44:29 Okay Aug 12 07:44:58 no I use to use 12.04, now I have 14.04 Aug 12 07:45:12 I will have a look Aug 12 07:45:57 imuguruza: The debian wheezy image has libc6 version 2.13 Aug 12 07:47:00 But debian jessie has version 2.19 Aug 12 07:47:39 and Ubuntu 14.04 also has version 2.19 Aug 12 07:50:03 wait a bit please Aug 12 07:50:10 Sure Aug 12 07:50:39 compiling... Aug 12 07:50:50 and I'm flashing a fresh BBB Aug 12 07:50:57 so I need some time Aug 12 07:51:14 imuguruza: Okay. Will wait. Aug 12 07:51:17 I'll come back to you as soon as as possible Aug 12 07:51:40 imuguruza: Thanks! Aug 12 07:52:00 no worries! The code has compiled OK Aug 12 07:53:34 The code compiles properly but does not execute on the debian wheezy image that was pre-installed on the Erle Brain Aug 12 08:18:35 ok, I'm seeign the same problem Aug 12 08:18:46 it might be due to headers? Aug 12 08:18:56 have you forgotten adding any? Aug 12 08:19:04 imuguruza: The libc6 version is old Aug 12 08:19:20 on the Debian Wheezy image Aug 12 08:20:06 imuguruza: What is the output of 'dpkg -l | grep libc6'? Aug 12 08:20:30 is also 2.13 Aug 12 08:20:57 Yes. The APMsubmarine requires 2.15+ Aug 12 08:21:39 in that case Aug 12 08:21:57 plug ethernet to Erle-Brain an update the library Aug 12 08:22:07 imuguruza: I have a class to attend. Will be back in an hour... Aug 12 08:22:11 ok Aug 12 08:22:40 so i would suggest updating that library in Erle-Brain Aug 12 08:23:00 Okay Aug 12 09:03:55 jkridner: received the email which you sent....nothing seems up to date with the chrome usb Aug 12 09:30:21 imuguruza: ping Aug 12 09:30:48 rohith: pong Aug 12 09:31:17 It seems that the latest version of libc6 in the wheezy repositories is 2.13 Aug 12 09:32:08 https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libc6 Aug 12 09:34:55 imuguruza: What should I do? Aug 12 09:35:15 do you have a SD? Aug 12 09:35:20 Yes Aug 12 09:35:35 you could try using Snappy Ubuntu Core Aug 12 09:35:47 that has v2.21 Aug 12 09:35:54 Okay. Link to the image file? Aug 12 09:37:33 chrome://mega/content/secure.html#!bNFiFCzY!r06g96-mYsllv7CKcDPIJppPiLWwaElqTCxkNkgyIA8 Aug 12 09:37:43 not that one Aug 12 09:37:54 https://mega.co.nz/#!bNFiFCzY!r06g96-mYsllv7CKcDPIJppPiLWwaElqTCxkNkgyIA8 Aug 12 09:37:57 this one Aug 12 09:38:07 http://erlerobotics.com/blog/updating-the-software/ Aug 12 09:38:12 here you have more info Aug 12 09:38:20 flash a SD with that image Aug 12 09:38:30 imuguruza: Thanks! I will try with this image. Aug 12 09:39:10 and insert it into Erle-Brain SD slot Aug 12 09:39:28 notice that the file system is different from Debian Aug 12 09:39:56 imuguruza: Don't we have to press a button on the BBB to boot from the microSD slot? Aug 12 09:39:57 you should copy APMsubmarine.elf into /home/ubuntu Aug 12 09:40:14 nope, this image is bootable from SD Aug 12 09:40:20 like RPi Aug 12 09:40:30 Okay. Aug 12 09:40:41 you'll need to use `sudo`in order to execute the -elf Aug 12 09:40:47 * .elf Aug 12 09:41:24 and also notice that the user to ssh this image is ubuntu Aug 12 09:41:28 instead of root Aug 12 09:41:39 Okay. So 'sudo ./APMsubmarine.elf' Aug 12 09:41:50 so you have coonect using `ssh ubuntu@192.168.7.2`command Aug 12 09:42:02 and the password is also `ubuntu` Aug 12 09:42:23 Okay Aug 12 09:49:56 I have checked that in Snappy works Aug 12 09:50:22 so you should be able to continue working using this image rohith Aug 12 09:50:37 rohith: Aug 12 09:50:41 imuguruza: Yes Aug 12 09:50:46 grat Aug 12 09:50:49 * great Aug 12 09:51:07 I'll try the image and let you know Aug 12 09:51:28 ok Aug 12 09:52:01 imuguruza: Oh. You've tried it on the image. Aug 12 09:52:13 yes Aug 12 09:52:16 Thanks! Aug 12 12:30:12 Morning Aug 12 13:15:52 G'morning Aug 12 13:20:35 nerdboy: MPU9250 patched up and tested, ready for general circulation -> https://github.com/nvisnjic/PyBBIO/blob/master/bbio/libraries/MPU9250/MPU9250.py Aug 12 13:21:45 alexanderhiam -> also, there's a pull request, so ready to fix stuff to fit with PyBBIO https://github.com/graycatlabs/PyBBIO/pull/82 Aug 12 13:24:11 I'll push the API stuff in a sec Aug 12 13:29:31 So, these are the second last reports being sent today. Aug 12 13:32:43 imuguruza: How do I make APMsubmarine.elf execute at startup Aug 12 13:32:59 ArduCopter.elf starts by default Aug 12 13:33:35 I had a look at /etc/init.d/ but couldn't find the script Aug 12 13:35:27 vmayoral: ping Aug 12 13:37:24 rohith: Aug 12 13:37:40 first you should kill ArduCopter proccess Aug 12 13:37:57 systemctl stop copter.service Aug 12 13:38:21 then execute: sudo ./APMsubmarine Aug 12 13:38:24 imuguruz_: Oh. This image has systemd as the init Aug 12 13:38:42 I was looking in the wrong place :P Aug 12 13:38:43 if you want to launch it by default Aug 12 13:38:57 you have to create a "snap" (app) Aug 12 13:40:01 http://erlerobotics.com/files/manuals/App_store.pdf Aug 12 13:40:08 http://erlerobotics.com/blog/whitepapers/ Aug 12 13:40:15 you have here some info about that Aug 12 13:40:20 rohith: Aug 12 13:40:39 imuguruz_: Okay. I'll go through it. Thanks! Aug 12 13:41:07 have you stopped ArduCopter and launch APMsubmarine?? Aug 12 13:41:23 I have stopped ArduCopter.elf Aug 12 13:43:46 imuguruz_: I have run `sudo ./APMsubmarine.elf` and it starts executing but APM Planner doesn't detect a connection Aug 12 13:44:11 Abhishek__: should be two more updates, though next week is soft pencils down Aug 12 13:44:29 also, I'll be a bit laggy today since Im on mobile Aug 12 13:45:35 rohith: it's a good step! Aug 12 13:45:45 rohith: keep pushing Aug 12 13:46:25 imuguruz_: I have verified that the process is running by `ps -e` Aug 12 13:46:38 ok Aug 12 14:14:23 imuguruza: I can't seem to get APM planner to detect the Erle Brain Aug 12 14:15:08 that's 'cause you're not launching APMsubmarine with the option -A Aug 12 14:15:34 imuguruza: What is that option used for? Aug 12 14:15:55 you have to launch it in the next way: `sudo ./APMsubmarine.elf -A udp:127.0.0.1:6001 Aug 12 14:16:21 determines the connection port Aug 12 14:16:44 this way, you use the bridge that Erle-Brain has in Snappy Aug 12 14:16:48 imuguruza: Great. It works now. Thanks! Aug 12 14:16:53 neem0: Yep, so one report before soft-pencils down Aug 12 14:17:06 rohith: can you see it in APM? Aug 12 14:17:17 imuguruza: Yes Aug 12 14:17:49 MAV type also shows up as Submarine Aug 12 14:18:04 great, as far as I can see, manual mode is not yet implemented, right? Aug 12 14:18:14 rohith: good to hear that Aug 12 14:18:41 Not yet. Will be adding more features after GSoC too. Aug 12 14:19:16 ok Aug 12 14:19:19 imuguruza: Wanted to get the basic structure in place. Aug 12 14:19:27 ok Aug 12 14:19:50 The IMU works and the Flight Display also shows the changes Aug 12 14:20:14 nice Aug 12 14:20:55 hi jkridner|desktop Aug 12 14:21:40 Abhishek__: getting you a BBG isn't as urgent to me as getting a final release software image for BBG. ;-) Aug 12 14:22:27 I'm waiting. Hope to see the release soon :) Aug 12 14:22:39 Abhishek__: I will do an e-mail to introduce you to Zoe though. Aug 12 14:27:47 Abhishek__: done. Aug 12 14:27:57 Abhishek__: sorry for putting you off so long. hope you understand. Aug 12 14:29:03 thank you very much jkridner. Aug 12 14:29:15 :-) Aug 12 14:31:13 morning! Aug 12 14:32:22 arianepaola: lots of stuff you are working on according to the report today, but do you have any commits or PRs? Aug 12 15:12:27 jkridner: don't suppose you want to add my alter-nick to the other channel? Aug 12 15:13:10 apparently identify-ing isn't good enough... Aug 12 15:16:58 yeah, you need a /invite. Aug 12 15:17:52 jkridner: Looks like Abhishek_ is taken, please send an invite to Abhishek__ as well Aug 12 15:25:01 40 minutes now Aug 12 15:34:48 <_av500_> aloha Aug 12 15:34:52 <_av500_> 30 min to go Aug 12 15:41:36 shubhangi: How's the documentation coming up? Aug 12 15:43:35 Abhishek__: This week i focused more on completing the code along with proper commenting Aug 12 15:54:43 <_av500_> 5 min to 5 min to go Aug 12 15:55:05 go-ception Aug 12 16:00:54 <_av500_> 5 min Aug 12 16:01:53 I see all 8 are here. Aug 12 16:02:23 hi Aug 12 16:02:42 Hey Aug 12 16:02:56 * mr_science resorts to phone->bluetooth speaker... Aug 12 16:03:25 Ello Aug 12 16:03:25 Meow Aug 12 16:03:37 hello :) Aug 12 16:03:43 hi Aug 12 16:03:56 howdy Aug 12 16:04:08 allo Aug 12 16:04:33 ebadawy and azizulhakim Aug 12 16:04:39 here Aug 12 16:04:42 here Aug 12 16:04:50 <_av500_> brilliant Aug 12 16:04:55 <_av500_> lets start :) Aug 12 16:04:58 <_av500_> 1) Welcome everybody Aug 12 16:04:59 :) Aug 12 16:05:05 :) Aug 12 16:05:09 Hey Aug 12 16:05:45 <_av500_> arianepaola: shubhangi Neem0_M apaar ankur rohith azizulhakim ebadawy Aug 12 16:05:48 <_av500_> thats 8 Aug 12 16:05:55 yep Aug 12 16:06:10 Roger Aug 12 16:06:16 <_av500_> sec Aug 12 16:06:36 over Aug 12 16:06:55 * DiegoTc will be back in 2 minutes Aug 12 16:07:04 <_av500_> todays reports are ankur and ebadawy Aug 12 16:07:15 <_av500_> thus completing the 2nd cycle Aug 12 16:07:19 <_av500_> but thats later Aug 12 16:07:24 <_av500_> 2) URGENT issues Aug 12 16:07:27 <_av500_> (if any) Aug 12 16:07:32 <_av500_> time is of the essence Aug 12 16:07:42 <_av500_> pencils down is soon Aug 12 16:08:16 No code after pencils down ? Aug 12 16:08:27 Strictly ? Aug 12 16:08:36 <_av500_> well, aug 17th is "soft" pencils down Aug 12 16:08:51 I dont think so. After 21 that is Aug 12 16:08:51 All green, though time is right Aug 12 16:08:54 <_av500_> so if you commit code "softly" it should be ok Aug 12 16:09:08 <_av500_> aug 21st is "hard" Aug 12 16:09:11 Tight Aug 12 16:09:12 <_av500_> aka "over" Aug 12 16:09:16 <_av500_> aka "The end" Aug 12 16:09:34 ok Aug 12 16:09:36 <_av500_> sure you can commit more, but its not part of gsoc 2015 any more Aug 12 16:10:23 _av500_: sent you mail about the bandwidth issue. I couldn't get more raw speed. so if there is any suggestion. Aug 12 16:10:40 <_av500_> azizulhakim: yes, that puzzzles mre Aug 12 16:10:48 <_av500_> I am used to get 20B/s over MUSB Aug 12 16:10:59 <_av500_> so at least 10 should be there Aug 12 16:11:15 <_av500_> what is the other side you tested with? Aug 12 16:11:38 I tried on Nexus 7 and some other USB stick Aug 12 16:11:52 On USB stick it was like 6MB/s Aug 12 16:11:59 on Nexu around 3.5 Aug 12 16:12:14 <_av500_> hmm, ok Aug 12 16:12:38 <_av500_> if you get only 6MB/s for a usb stick, I blame the BBB it self Aug 12 16:13:01 <_av500_> but back to the agenda Aug 12 16:13:12 <_av500_> if you have last minute blockers, please speak up Aug 12 16:13:36 <_av500_> if not, please give me a thumbs up Aug 12 16:13:42 I guess no Aug 12 16:13:47 thumbs up :-) Aug 12 16:13:47 nope Aug 12 16:13:47 blockers include any lack of understanding the expectations of your mentors to give a *pass* Aug 12 16:13:53 nope Aug 12 16:13:59 Green Aug 12 16:14:01 azizulhakim: what kind of endpoint are you using for this test? Aug 12 16:14:18 also, if any lingering bugs are about, now is the time to panic. :-) Aug 12 16:14:21 bulk endpoint Aug 12 16:14:33 jkridner: does the design issue that I am faceing now considred a blocker? Aug 12 16:14:44 as in compile trouble, etc... Aug 12 16:14:59 azizulhakim: can you confirm you have it running as a HS device? Aug 12 16:15:28 _av500_: ebadawy is almost complete, what it's missing is working on the new home page.I think this is something jkridner will need to explain better, I still don't get him well his idea about it and know ebadawy is having the same issue Aug 12 16:15:46 <_av500_> DiegoTc: unerstoof Aug 12 16:15:51 <_av500_> understood Aug 12 16:16:01 <_av500_> DiegoTc: ebadawy jkridner : pls resolve that after this meeting Aug 12 16:16:18 please +1 Aug 12 16:16:21 <_av500_> ds2: FS would be only 12 Mbit/s Aug 12 16:16:22 ebadawy: yes, if you don't know how to drive the design to closure. will do _av500_ Aug 12 16:16:28 <_av500_> thx Aug 12 16:17:01 _av500_: yes. but it doesn't hurt to check Aug 12 16:17:37 * mr_science tries to think of a fun definition for "unerstoof" Aug 12 16:18:17 <_av500_> +1 Aug 12 16:18:49 ds2: you mean running BB as HS device? Not sure how to do that Aug 12 16:20:19 azizulhakim: on the host end, look at lsusb -v for the BB... one of the entries would id it as a HS/FS/etc device Aug 12 16:20:38 <_av500_> ds2: the BB is host Aug 12 16:21:33 you don't mean gadget interface, do you? Aug 12 16:21:45 <_av500_> no Aug 12 16:21:47 <_av500_> the BB is host Aug 12 16:21:50 <_av500_> in this setup Aug 12 16:22:00 <_av500_> the android device is device Aug 12 16:22:26 isn't there a special cable for that? Aug 12 16:22:38 or is that the other way 'round... Aug 12 16:22:47 <_av500_> no need for that Aug 12 16:22:52 mr_science: phones come with target connections... Aug 12 16:22:53 <_av500_> USB-A on BB, micro USB on android Aug 12 16:23:09 mr_science: ADK uses BeagleBone or other accessory as a USB *host* Aug 12 16:23:21 OTG cable is what i'm thinking of... Aug 12 16:23:30 if i get time, I'll run some tests Aug 12 16:23:31 mr_science: replaces the computer in the sync picture. Aug 12 16:23:39 mr_science: doesn't use OTG. Aug 12 16:23:43 yeah, i had no luck with ADK last i tried... Aug 12 16:24:13 mr_science: ADK has the device (host) come and check the phone (target) for stuff to do. Aug 12 16:24:18 too many versions of the stupid google stack floating around...\ Aug 12 16:24:52 yeah, it was a year ago or so... too long in nerdboy years i think Aug 12 16:25:26 i assume this is documented/committed? Aug 12 16:25:44 * mr_science hasn't looked at other stuff much Aug 12 16:25:59 <_av500_> ok, lets move on Aug 12 16:26:11 <_av500_> 3) 15 minute of fame reports Aug 12 16:26:27 <_av500_> ankur: you're up Aug 12 16:26:51 yes Aug 12 16:27:40 So, till mid term I had created APIs for GPIO, PWM, ADC, I2C and SPI and developed some demo android apps for the same Aug 12 16:28:22 after the mid term I have created native API for CAN, UART and USB and android apps for them Aug 12 16:28:56 for CAN I have used socket programming. Aug 12 16:29:45 There was a problem while reading from CAN devices. But hendersa suggested to use read with timeout and it solved the issue Aug 12 16:30:09 in CAN I use vcan virtual can for the demostration Aug 12 16:30:37 try testing it on your car? Aug 12 16:30:46 there was a issue with CAN that some kernel modules were not enable so I had to enable them Aug 12 16:31:04 https://github.com/ankurayadav/bbbandroidHAL/issues/3 Aug 12 16:31:29 mr_science: I will try if time permits. But it should work fine. Aug 12 16:32:05 for UART I used two beagles Aug 12 16:32:16 for communication Aug 12 16:32:32 it use simple read write system calls for the communication Aug 12 16:32:56 for USB I used libusb. Aug 12 16:33:40 libusb has large number of API and I cannot use all of it for the demostration Aug 12 16:33:59 hmmm? isn't there an app that does the USB version already? Aug 12 16:34:51 ds2: that app is for an android phone to connect to the bbb afaik. this is android running on the bbb and accessing the usb Aug 12 16:34:57 ds2: BBBAndroid image does not include USB Manager that are by default provided by google Aug 12 16:35:16 so, the easiest way would be to use libusb Aug 12 16:35:27 otherwise we need to recompile the code Aug 12 16:35:48 If in future it is included then that can be done Aug 12 16:36:21 ankur: gotit Aug 12 16:36:48 so I have made a demo android app that can list all the usb devices attached with beagle Aug 12 16:37:08 other APIs of libusb could be used in similar fashion. Aug 12 16:37:38 for documentation I have used doxygen. It is hosted in gh-pages Aug 12 16:37:58 http://ankurayadav.github.io/bbbandroidHAL/files.html Aug 12 16:38:23 I am working on wiki that will include some small examples for each api. Aug 12 16:38:29 https://github.com/ankurayadav/bbbandroidHAL/wiki Aug 12 16:38:48 I have already made video for demonstration of all the apps Aug 12 16:39:17 any questions? Aug 12 16:40:12 doxygen +1 Aug 12 16:40:23 link to videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A9nzUyZhK0&list=PLDNV7JsQ-z7qSjSL-pHxOOhNqTjHKsa9R Aug 12 16:40:36 <_av500_> ankur: very nice Aug 12 16:40:41 <_av500_> +1 for video Aug 12 16:41:12 hendersa: has told me to make a final video with brief description about all the API usage Aug 12 16:41:25 so I will do it this will Aug 12 16:41:37 ankur: thank you very much for the video! Aug 12 16:42:07 thanks _av500_ jkridner Aug 12 16:42:25 that is all from me. Aug 12 16:42:28 any questions? Aug 12 16:44:09 and also links to the repo: native API code: https://github.com/ankurayadav/bbbandroidHAL/ Aug 12 16:44:21 and demo apps code: https://github.com/ankurayadav/demoapps-bbbandroid Aug 12 16:44:44 * mr_science will test it after this proposal sprint Aug 12 16:45:03 <_av500_> ankur: thanks for the report Aug 12 16:45:15 <_av500_> ebadawy: you are go for the next 15min Aug 12 16:45:28 ok Aug 12 16:45:45 So in brief about project that I am working on and to recap what I said last time Aug 12 16:46:17 Bone101 is a platform let you create tutorials for BBB using gists and share it with others Aug 12 16:46:33 or fork/edit existing tutorial if you like Aug 12 16:46:58 http://ehab93.github.io/bone101/Support/BoneScript/demo_blinkled/ Aug 12 16:47:21 this is a bone101 tutorial, if you loged in you will notice that you can fork it and make you edits Aug 12 16:48:03 my work before midterm was focusing on fix all bugs and make the closed cycle complete Aug 12 16:48:17 I think this cycle is complete now Aug 12 16:48:51 for BBUI was working on migrating its functionality form the original code but found that it was talking me more time than planed Aug 12 16:49:03 bbui original code: https://github.com/jadonk/Beaglebone-UI Aug 12 16:49:51 jkridner suggested that I should foucs on making his rewrite to be in bonecard layout Aug 12 16:50:20 you can check it in the create page, http://ehab93.github.io/bone101/Support/bonecard/create/ Aug 12 16:50:55 so, what is left is to make an new design for the homepage Aug 12 16:51:22 currently I am facing some troubles to figure it out Aug 12 16:51:51 jkridner: should I ask for recommendations or you have a specific requirements? Aug 12 16:52:35 ebadawy: did you finish or planning to explain more? Aug 12 16:53:09 DiegoTc: I think that is all, have I missed something? Aug 12 16:53:28 ebadawy: Question: Do you have a tutorial with BBUI and could you explain the reason why are you integrating it, besides jkridner and I requested it :) Aug 12 16:54:04 DiegoTc: can't make a tutorial with BBUI without its functionality Aug 12 16:54:20 which is not migrated yet Aug 12 16:54:39 just its layout is all what you can see for now in the create page Aug 12 16:55:42 so, questions? Aug 12 16:57:12 ankur: -0.25 points for not using spell-check Aug 12 16:58:10 mr_science: anujdeshpande: just told me to use UNIX spell check Aug 12 16:58:17 ebadawy: which homepage exactly? Aug 12 16:58:39 mr_science: this one http://ehab93.github.io/bone101/Support/bone101/ Aug 12 16:58:47 as in the current design... Aug 12 16:59:23 I think the goal is to reformat it and have a new design if needed Aug 12 17:00:00 and keep all the content in one place, or spread it around? Aug 12 17:00:08 mr_science: Thanks for reminder, I didn't know about it. Will correct mistakes in documentations. Aug 12 17:00:21 current page has a butt-load of stuff on it... Aug 12 17:00:33 no, should me in one place Aug 12 17:00:48 be* Aug 12 17:01:18 is that jkridner with the giant fake mustache? Aug 12 17:01:44 yeah, think so :) Aug 12 17:02:46 * mr_science does not need to "fake" a giant mustache... Aug 12 17:03:05 it just happens when i'm not paying attention... Aug 12 17:04:26 <_av500_> ebadawy: thansk for the report Aug 12 17:04:45 good job today Aug 12 17:05:17 * mr_science hands ebadawy and ankur both a cookie Aug 12 17:05:30 <_av500_> 4) thank you all Aug 12 17:05:34 <_av500_> see you next week Aug 12 17:05:44 <_av500_> keep that screensaver from appearing Aug 12 17:05:52 ready set go... Aug 12 17:06:04 Total: 370 packages (1 new, 369 reinstalls)... Aug 12 17:06:04 jkridner: remember bone101 design with ebadawy Aug 12 17:06:18 * jkridner is around Aug 12 17:06:38 * mr_science going full multilib Aug 12 17:06:39 <_av500_> jkridner: pls type invoice to goog :) Aug 12 17:07:17 _av500_: carols sent a request to renew our supplier status. will send invoice as soon as PO is issued. Aug 12 17:07:30 <_av500_> ok Aug 12 17:07:47 * _av500_ has to go now Aug 12 17:07:51 <_av500_> see you all next week Aug 12 17:08:31 _av500_ thanks Aug 12 17:08:57 jkridner: why do you want all the current information on one page? it's not better to subdivide it? Aug 12 17:09:24 yes and no.... it needs to be discovered quickly... reloading pages takes time. Aug 12 17:09:44 also, on http://beagleboard.org, lots of people already link to the information that is on there... Aug 12 17:09:51 I think eliminating the long scroll is good.... Aug 12 17:10:09 when I'm half page i don't want to continue scrolling Aug 12 17:10:14 but, the information should still show up using anchor links and it should be possible to still find all that information on that page. Aug 12 17:10:33 DiegoTc: I agree that the scrolling needs to be eliminated. Aug 12 17:10:41 or at least reduced. Aug 12 17:11:23 ebadawy: are you here? I'm not a good person with design Aug 12 17:11:27 jkridner: how is it possible to eliminate the scrolling with keeping the same info as it is? Aug 12 17:11:44 DiegoTc: me neither! :( Aug 12 17:11:49 lets shoot questions to jkridner so this can be ready :) Aug 12 17:12:18 DiegoTc: hope so Aug 12 17:15:42 so, jkridner what do you have? Aug 12 17:16:19 ebadawy: I was thinking you can hide the anchors and click on the title to display the info Aug 12 17:16:28 that way you are only going to see the content Aug 12 17:16:37 you want to read Aug 12 17:17:38 DiegoTc: told jkridner that we could have current info in tabs but I think he didn't agree on that Aug 12 17:17:53 ebadawy: something like this: http://www.cssnewbie.com/example/showhide-content/ Aug 12 17:18:13 DiegoTc: perhaps expose more anchors and use arrows and scrolling to "reveal" as well? also use more clear/large headings and subdivisions on info? Aug 12 17:18:32 back from airport shuttle duties Aug 12 17:21:10 DiegoTc: hopefully you can find a more extensive example. Aug 12 17:23:44 jkridner, ebadawy I just took that example and did something: http://output.jsbin.com/xokaqe Aug 12 17:24:32 copy paste but i think the idea is understood Aug 12 17:25:04 DiegoTc: what if there is anchor link in the hidden area? Aug 12 17:25:34 how like that ebadawy ? Aug 12 17:26:44 i mean something like that Aug 12 17:26:44 http://ehab93.github.io/bone101/Support/bone101/#headers Aug 12 17:27:06 that will be the content display Aug 12 17:27:17 what if it is hidden, will it still works? Aug 12 17:27:25 amutt Aug 12 17:27:45 it has to Aug 12 17:28:16 ok, I like that. jkridner: what do you think? Aug 12 17:29:43 you mean hide all the big pieces under their heading/description? Aug 12 17:30:09 nerdboy: basically Aug 12 17:30:17 or do you have a better idea? Aug 12 17:30:34 not at the moment... Aug 12 17:31:13 * nerdboy has successive web experiments as example Aug 12 17:31:27 think it'll be pelican next Aug 12 17:32:00 static/maintenance page is fallback right now... Aug 12 17:35:39 * ebadawy not sure if jkridner still there Aug 12 17:35:56 somewhat distracted, but here. Aug 12 17:36:10 hidden is OK, but I think you need to think more about how to hide it. Aug 12 17:36:41 ok, great. will try to make it in a good way Aug 12 17:37:25 jkridner: so have you checked my updates in the PR? Aug 12 17:40:20 * jkridner will check now. Aug 12 17:41:18 ebadawy: I think adding graphical elements to each of the main sections would help... with lots of words, people tend not to read them. Aug 12 17:41:29 it needs to be clear that things can be expanded to view more info. Aug 12 17:41:40 infographics Aug 12 17:42:04 ebadawy: also, please feel free to provide separate commits that update content to match the latest images. Aug 12 17:42:53 * nerdboy declares Bingo Aug 12 17:42:55 jkridner: ok, will do Aug 12 17:43:00 thanks moto-timo ! Aug 12 17:44:17 ebadawy: the style on the pages isn't always good. I'd appreciate patches that don't change whitespace and content at the same time. :( Aug 12 17:44:58 I'm going to just merge for now and ask you to clean up, but realize this isn't a best-practice. Aug 12 17:45:10 ebadawy: are you testing each of the demos? Aug 12 17:45:33 most of them ate tested... Aug 12 17:45:38 * moto-timo passes a quad espresso to nerdboy Aug 12 17:45:43 doh! just saw there is a merge conflict now. Aug 12 17:45:47 have lost my cable and the new one is not working proberly! Aug 12 17:45:52 ebadawy: please confirm which are testd. Aug 12 17:46:37 jkridner: I think the conflict is because of the cherry pick Aug 12 17:46:49 probably. means you should rebase. Aug 12 17:47:29 ebadawy: won't keydown/keyup bindings interfere with the ACE editor? Aug 12 17:48:04 * ebadawy doing a rebase Aug 12 17:48:14 jkridner: sorry, don't get it? Aug 12 17:51:58 jkridner: it is good to go now Aug 12 17:52:50 ebadawy: I added a bunch of comments to the old commits. are those just lost now? Aug 12 17:53:41 oh really! Aug 12 17:53:45 have them on my email Aug 12 17:54:21 but the won't be viewed on the PR Aug 12 17:55:08 jkridner: I can reset what I have done if you want? Aug 12 17:55:43 no worries... just use your e-mail and I'll also re-input a bunch of them. Aug 12 17:56:07 ok Aug 12 17:58:34 ebadawy, DiegoTc: OK, I think I'm done commenting on the PR. Please review the comments. Aug 12 17:59:13 * ebadawy reviewing Aug 12 18:01:00 jkridner: what does it mean 'indentation' ? Aug 12 18:01:14 tabs or leading whitespace Aug 12 18:01:34 you made many whitespace changes that make the commits hard to read. Aug 12 18:01:54 whitespace changes should generally only be done with js-beautify and as a single commit. Aug 12 18:02:14 mmm, I can't use js-beautify on html because of jekyll front matter and its embedded code Aug 12 18:02:25 ie. stop tabbing stuff and complicating the reviews of the commits! Aug 12 18:02:55 ebadawy: I'm sure there's a way, though it might take a pre-process/post-process step to separate the front-matter. Aug 12 18:03:26 ok, will try to fix it. Aug 12 23:10:26 http://www.gentoogeek.org/stats/beagle-gsoc.html <= happy stats day! Aug 12 23:12:07 must be well behaved, since i don't think i've ever seen this one before => "Nobody beat anyone up. Everybody was friendly." Aug 12 23:13:36 hey... how is possible for me last seen 5 days ago! -_- Aug 12 23:14:10 either perl or the guy who wrote pisg seems to be really bad at math... Aug 12 23:14:44 nerdboy has quite a potty mouth. 0.0% words were foul language. Aug 12 23:14:52 so, there ya go Aug 12 23:15:03 yeah, that's why I should be in the top :p Aug 12 23:19:36 "" Abhishek_: "no, don't use f-prefixed functions to access sysfs files" "" Aug 12 23:20:19 I like the random quote this script selected... Aug 12 23:22:01 Looks like the console system image ( 2 GB version ) is too stripped down to be a BeagleLogic system image. Aug 12 23:31:09 jkridner: is it ok if I do something like this? http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/ytwKo/ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 13 02:59:59 2015