**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 26 02:59:59 2015 Aug 26 03:00:04 doing some embedded dev at a GPS startup Aug 26 03:00:07 ok cool Aug 26 03:00:42 but getting a bit sick of my project....all satellite docs are old Aug 26 03:00:48 and the signals are hard to decode :) Aug 26 03:01:16 azizulhakim: any issue if i run all the stuff on the bone as root ? Aug 26 03:01:30 and logged in via ssh ? do not have screen for the beagle except my phone :) Aug 26 03:01:46 no problem. actually i also did everything as root Aug 26 03:02:29 neemo: we pretty much need to see the report by tomorrow's mtg Aug 26 03:02:32 meh internet is crappy Aug 26 03:02:44 s/crappy/creepy/ Aug 26 03:03:04 i'm still saving a cookie for you, but you have to earn it Aug 26 03:04:02 vvu: not that most of it *isn't* crap... but it's also getting creepier... Aug 26 03:04:47 azizulhakim: one sec to set up remote debugging on my n5 Aug 26 03:04:59 neemo: technically you would still have some time to finish documentation... Aug 26 03:06:06 oh many warnings here Aug 26 03:06:09 "but i want both on my desk right now!" "now where's that clark kent guy?!?!" Aug 26 03:06:48 yes, I need some more cleanups. there are still some unused codes in places Aug 26 03:07:14 for bard-droid do i need some specific android api version? Aug 26 03:07:17 need to run some tools? Aug 26 03:07:20 or lolipop is going to work ? Aug 26 03:07:24 they can tell you that stuff Aug 26 03:07:46 duplicate code blocks, dead code, other fun stuff Aug 26 03:08:17 it should be okay Aug 26 03:08:20 * nerdboy warming up IV&V hat Aug 26 03:08:40 needs 220V Aug 26 03:09:04 kinda makes the lights dim, but oh well... Aug 26 03:13:17 azizulhakim: perfect, app running on the phone Aug 26 03:13:20 i did build.sh install Aug 26 03:13:23 next step ? Aug 26 03:14:00 build.sh run Aug 26 03:14:56 do i need to add my vid/pid ? Aug 26 03:15:03 because the app did not pop up on the phone Aug 26 03:16:17 what is vid/pid of your device Aug 26 03:19:53 try adding the vid/pid in adk/adk.c file after line 183 Aug 26 03:21:08 did that Aug 26 03:21:17 i have same class subclass and protocol as n10 Aug 26 03:21:44 azizulhakim: https://gist.github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/44ae0839a7905e7403cb Aug 26 03:22:48 ok lets do a manual test then Aug 26 03:23:06 uninstall everything using "build.sh uninstall" Aug 26 03:23:21 did Aug 26 03:23:38 kill the android app also Aug 26 03:23:48 yep Aug 26 03:23:52 just removing from recently used list will be enough Aug 26 03:24:00 now install only the adk driver Aug 26 03:24:08 inside adk folder, do a make Aug 26 03:24:16 and insmod ? Aug 26 03:24:28 yes, insmod only adk.ko Aug 26 03:24:37 same error Aug 26 03:25:11 https://gist.github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/c749bd85ae584770eb3a Aug 26 03:25:16 this is my lsusb Aug 26 03:25:21 ok. are you using a linux machine? can you try the adk on that? Aug 26 03:25:27 damn, i'm too busy to test now but i want to... Aug 26 03:25:28 {USB_DEVICE_AND_INTERFACE_INFO(VENDOR_ID_GOOGLE, 0x4ee7, 0xff, 0x42, 0x01)} Aug 26 03:25:39 yep i am on a linux box Aug 26 03:25:43 let me clone the repo Aug 26 03:30:25 crappy ubuntu... Aug 26 03:30:35 it cannot find the right headers Aug 26 03:35:46 neemo, oh neeeemo... you have about 12.5 hrs left... Aug 26 03:38:35 azizulhakim: yep on my linux box the adk driver works Aug 26 03:39:19 ok, now just try to install the other driver Aug 26 03:39:32 it is beagleusb.ko Aug 26 03:40:28 ok installed Aug 26 03:40:42 run now ? Aug 26 03:41:14 no don't run. running x on ubuntu never worked for me Aug 26 03:41:29 lets check if the android device appears as a sound card now Aug 26 03:41:50 on ubuntu dashboard, type "sound" Aug 26 03:41:58 you'll get the icon for sound settings Aug 26 03:42:05 open that up Aug 26 03:43:58 by the way, after installing the second driver, did the screen go blue on android? Aug 26 03:44:55 no Aug 26 03:45:00 but some bad kernel panics are in the zone Aug 26 03:46:17 can you try "cat /proc/asound/cards" Aug 26 03:48:27 * nerdboy gets to help fix a lovely kernel interrupt deadlock Aug 26 03:49:34 https://gist.github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/7b300afce072fceddaeb Aug 26 03:49:40 the module dies Aug 26 03:49:57 i the audio driver Aug 26 03:50:57 did you get this kernel panic in bone? Aug 26 03:51:13 nop, in the bone the adk did not work Aug 26 03:51:29 ok, what is your ubuntu kernel version? Aug 26 03:51:41 Linux vvu-mbp 3.16.0-46-generic #62~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 11 16:27:16 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Aug 26 03:51:57 i am running ubuntu on a MacBook Pro retina 13" Aug 26 03:52:04 but i think it should not matter Aug 26 03:53:16 you are testing with nexus 5? Aug 26 03:53:20 yep Aug 26 03:54:07 ok, so in bone the app didn't popup, but there was no crash issue. right? Aug 26 03:54:16 no crash Aug 26 03:54:19 jsut the -19 erorr Aug 26 03:54:28 just Aug 26 03:54:34 okay Aug 26 03:55:05 with what device were you testing ? Aug 26 03:55:17 I did on nexus 7 Aug 26 03:55:47 mhmhm Aug 26 03:56:22 ok. let me do some more test. i'll try to grab a nexus 5 and see whats going on there Aug 26 03:56:35 you have one at hand ? Aug 26 03:56:39 or tomorrow from now on Aug 26 03:57:15 yes may be tomorrow. i've to find someone Aug 26 03:57:26 ok Aug 26 03:57:52 19 is no such device Aug 26 03:58:39 if the adk works in ubuntu, it should also work in bone Aug 26 03:58:51 yep Aug 26 04:06:47 azizulhakim: https://gist.github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/f1733c51e4b8f26484dd Aug 26 04:06:58 got it working on the bone, but beagle.ko kills the board Aug 26 04:08:10 no green on android? Aug 26 04:08:22 no Aug 26 04:08:33 android app pops up? Aug 26 04:08:37 yep Aug 26 04:09:06 after insmod beagle.ko everything dies Aug 26 04:10:38 can you disable video from features.h Aug 26 04:10:44 see if audio and input works Aug 26 04:11:02 ok one sec Aug 26 04:20:12 yep Aug 26 04:20:15 i think they work Aug 26 04:20:54 https://gist.github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/70f77d605e650d4745ce Aug 26 04:21:21 i am running 3.8.13-bone70 Aug 26 04:21:30 you were on bone71 ? Aug 26 04:21:31 what is the output of cat /proc/asound/cards Aug 26 04:21:51 i've both bone47 and 71 Aug 26 04:22:08 beagleaudio at bus 1 device 4 :D Aug 26 04:22:41 ok thats good news. it can detect the device as a sound card Aug 26 04:23:38 may be try only the video now and see what happens. disable both input and audio, enable video Aug 26 04:24:08 can i play something from the console ? Aug 26 04:25:11 if you have aplay installed Aug 26 04:25:34 though it might through some audio format issue, but you'll at least get some noise Aug 26 04:27:27 let me try an mp3 Aug 26 04:27:43 which formatdo you support ? Aug 26 04:29:06 audio driver doesn't care about audio format actually Aug 26 04:29:14 so it should be okay Aug 26 04:29:47 how do i specify the device....it sayd s that beagleaudio is not valid pcm device Aug 26 04:29:55 but aplay doesn't recognize audio driver if it doesn't get exact match. Aug 26 04:30:14 yes that is what i was suspecting Aug 26 04:30:30 we need the video driver working Aug 26 04:30:49 ok let me disable these 2 now Aug 26 04:30:53 which software did you use to play the audio? Aug 26 04:30:57 aplay Aug 26 04:31:08 yeah, aplay expects exact match Aug 26 04:35:11 use pulse to translate ;) Aug 26 04:38:29 azizulhakim: i get this panic https://gist.github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/f8c17b1a396ea71c3285 Aug 26 04:40:44 yes, parveendath92 said this panic was there all the time. i also don't know the reason, but look like the driver was initialized correctly Aug 26 04:40:53 do you get a green screen? Aug 26 04:40:57 no Aug 26 04:41:00 black Aug 26 04:41:05 remains the same Aug 26 04:41:34 and bone nonresponsive? Aug 26 04:41:40 yep Aug 26 04:41:42 dies Aug 26 04:42:53 ok. i'll try debug on a nexus 5 then Aug 26 04:43:04 ok Aug 26 12:09:15 gm Aug 26 12:18:10 neem0: you still have open issues on gh that have been resolved, you should close them! It's good to add a comment pointing to the corresponding commit when you close them Aug 26 12:19:21 and your final report? Aug 26 12:20:34 alexanderhiam: yup and yup Aug 26 12:20:57 final report will be up in a bit, still polishing something on the docs Aug 26 12:21:13 and all issues are resolved, just not yet closed (pushing last part of docs) Aug 26 13:35:57 apaar: I noticed a bug in your C library this morning, opened an issue: https://github.com/Apaar/PRU-Bridge/issues/2 Aug 26 13:38:21 also, I just want to confirm that you know your function declaration `int pru_bridge_init(int channel_sizes[NUM_CHANNELS])` is completely equivalent to `int pru_bridge_init(int *channel_sizes)` Aug 26 13:39:10 having the array length there only serves as a comment to the humans looking at the code, the function is just getting a pointer and the compiler does nothing to enforce the length Aug 26 13:40:29 personally I'm not a fan of that notation because I think it's less clear than just having the normal pointer syntax of `int *channel_sizes`, but that's up to you of course Aug 26 13:40:58 :| Aug 26 13:42:26 aah .. the good ol vanishing act (in the face of danger) Aug 26 13:45:31 lol Aug 26 13:46:19 alexanderhiam :i had left for dinner just got back Aug 26 13:46:31 reading logs Aug 26 13:47:15 alexanderhiam :i wanted to make sure that the user does not provide too few or too many parameters Aug 26 13:47:52 it's C, so there's always a way to pass a function the wrong thing! Aug 26 13:48:14 that's what good API docs are for ;) Aug 26 13:48:57 but yeah, like I said, it's fine to have it that way. I just wanted to make sure you knew that it makes no difference to the compiler and it's not enforced in any way Aug 26 13:49:36 :P i did not know that .also pushing a fix for the 10 characters issue.Never came across it in testing as the max size is 11500 and i did not try too many crazy inputs Aug 26 13:50:36 you could also leave it at 10 and check the value before calling sprintf Aug 26 13:51:50 yeah that would be a better approach i will do both just in case we decide to implement larger buffers elsewhere in the future Aug 26 13:52:26 good thinking Aug 26 14:05:43 alexanderhiam :pushed a fix, thanks :) Aug 26 15:14:09 vvu: ping Aug 26 15:17:37 hey ankur Aug 26 15:17:47 hi anujdeshpande Aug 26 15:18:07 i saw the final report, great job ! Aug 26 15:18:20 have you completed the changes hendersa suggested ? Aug 26 15:18:30 thanks anujdeshpande. Aug 26 15:18:56 I have done some changes in wiki. and adc. Still working on other changes. Aug 26 15:19:54 cool Aug 26 15:25:22 vvu: for some reason the usb packets are not being transferred. not sure though why Aug 26 15:29:19 neem0: I see the wiki pages trickling in, looking good. It would be good if you could explain on the sensor testing page what that plot is actually showing Aug 26 15:30:31 remember, since the whole idea of this project was to abstract away the complex filtering algorithms, you can't expect the reader to know what's going on there Aug 26 15:31:44 so some sort of clear, concise, high-level "this is the measured data, this is what's wrong with it, this is the fixed data, this is why the fixed data is better" Aug 26 15:32:17 if they're building a satellite, they should hopefully have at least half a clue... Aug 26 15:33:10 * nerdboy looking at real estate much farther away from launch range Aug 26 15:33:14 alexanderhiam: yeah I've notices that. I've put the explanation into the caption, but for some reason GitHub doesn't want to play nice with it Aug 26 15:33:21 nerdboy: also that Aug 26 15:33:21 :D Aug 26 15:33:45 I'm just about copy pasting my final report now, so you guys have something to read Aug 26 15:33:57 my apologies if it's late, didn't want to half-arse it Aug 26 15:34:45 s/notices/noticed even Aug 26 15:34:50 * neem0 English be hard. Aug 26 15:35:10 especially when your keyboard isn't cooperating ;) Aug 26 15:36:31 and I recommend putting a link to the wiki in the README. In my experience people tend to not notice the gh wikis without a link somewhere obvious Aug 26 15:37:01 alexanderhiam: yup,that's next on the list Aug 26 15:37:28 right after forcing google groups to not deform my C/P and clicking away all the resolved issues :) Aug 26 15:37:36 boy there are some interesting bands you would never hear of otherwise on archive.org Aug 26 15:37:53 https://archive.org/details/basshound2009-04-14.flac <= /me likes these guys Aug 26 15:38:45 yeah, the "wiki" tab is well hidden Aug 26 15:38:48 alexanderhiam: nerdboy: Btw, for the documentation, after I fix doxygen to maybe give me some nice output, It'll have to more sections Aug 26 15:39:12 so, section on API Documentation, which is essentially in detail what the comments say in my code currently Aug 26 15:39:13 use .svg for dot file format Aug 26 15:39:52 and section on the algorithms themselves and what the sensor processing does, which will be a copy paste from my blog and an added explanation from me (probably with a video later) Aug 26 15:40:14 does that separation make sense/is clear? Aug 26 15:40:22 trying to use that sidebar as much as possible :) Aug 26 15:40:33 sounds good to me Aug 26 15:40:56 alright Aug 26 15:41:18 btw, does anyone know if I can force google groups to post in plaintext, hmmm Aug 26 15:41:25 or do I have to use my email for that Aug 26 15:41:45 report link? Aug 26 15:42:10 <_av500_> neem0: report? Aug 26 15:42:10 well, thats much nicer yes Aug 26 15:42:13 can I just link? Aug 26 15:42:25 aka post a link on the google group? Aug 26 15:42:31 we just need something to read! Aug 26 15:43:00 http://nvisnjic.com/2015/08/26/gsoc-final-update.html Aug 26 15:43:01 with at least a couple minutes to spare so we can actually read it before the mtg... Aug 26 15:43:02 read away Aug 26 15:43:18 * nerdboy looking for special 'edgiest student" cookie... Aug 26 15:43:32 * neem0 tried copying it into GGroupd, but ugh Aug 26 15:45:23 anyone here going to the San Jose maker faire? Aug 26 15:45:33 <_av500_> neem0: I just copied it Aug 26 15:45:35 when is that? Aug 26 15:45:42 sep. 6 Aug 26 15:46:01 <_av500_> 8 reports accounted for Aug 26 15:46:25 there should be another one in pomona/LA after that... Aug 26 15:46:39 I'll be visiting friends in LA then, so I'll probably head up there Aug 26 15:47:20 rental car? Aug 26 15:47:20 _av500_: just put the link in the Group, seems easier on the eyes Aug 26 15:47:30 yeah Aug 26 15:47:37 * nerdboy lives in between... Aug 26 15:47:44 right off 101 Aug 26 15:47:59 ah, lunch perhaps? Aug 26 15:48:26 maybe i can go with you, if it's not too scary... Aug 26 15:48:59 well, I'm pretty scary, but the maker faire looks like it'll be pretty modest Aug 26 15:50:07 * nerdboy kept hearing about from drew at elc 2 years in a row... Aug 26 15:50:49 * neem0 has observed most interesting mentor discussions Aug 26 15:51:03 :) Aug 26 15:51:15 <_av500_> neem0: my eyes read text just fine Aug 26 15:51:18 <_av500_> kids these days.... Aug 26 15:51:35 alexanderhiam: how about this? Aug 26 15:52:07 you park rental car here and we take the rpi-powered prius the rest of the way... Aug 26 15:52:35 _av500_: hah, I believe, though text wasn't the problem, the 1000 character linestop is, at least to my poor eyes Aug 26 15:53:00 * neem0 command line email client which pulls from gmail, hmmmm Aug 26 15:53:15 <_av500_> neem0: so make you window smaller Aug 26 15:53:19 <_av500_> it will reflow Aug 26 15:53:26 <_av500_> :) Aug 26 15:53:29 * neem0 goes on the archlinux wiki Aug 26 15:53:45 dat works too :D Aug 26 15:55:49 *that would be around the ~200 miles north of LA in space cowboy land... Aug 26 15:57:36 I was planning on heading up on the 5th and renting a room for the weekend, and maybe spend the 7th checking out silicon valley Aug 26 15:57:52 * alexanderhiam has never ventured to CA Aug 26 16:01:05 how much time do you want to take on the travel legs? Aug 26 16:01:26 breweries are good... Aug 26 16:01:52 could stop by the hackerspace in SB if you want... Aug 26 16:02:22 not a drinker, but would love to check out a hackerspace Aug 26 16:02:44 anywhere between ventura and san luis Aug 26 16:02:57 bbq? Aug 26 16:03:13 love me some bbq Aug 26 16:04:13 well, we're easy Aug 26 16:04:49 think about what you want to do, i'm kinda tied up for a couple weeks anyway Aug 26 16:05:34 <_av500_> ok Aug 26 16:05:35 <_av500_> its time Aug 26 16:05:39 <_av500_> 1) Welcome everybody Aug 26 16:05:48 hi av500 Aug 26 16:06:03 hey Aug 26 16:06:04 <_av500_> do we have the students here? Aug 26 16:06:10 Yes Aug 26 16:06:13 here Aug 26 16:06:14 yep here Aug 26 16:06:14 <_av500_> :) Aug 26 16:06:20 here Aug 26 16:06:42 <_av500_> neem0 too I guess Aug 26 16:06:45 <_av500_> azizulhakim: ping Aug 26 16:06:54 <_av500_> jkridner|desktop: wake up :) Aug 26 16:06:58 ? Aug 26 16:06:59 _av500_ Aug 26 16:07:00 <_av500_> jkridner|work: you too Aug 26 16:07:06 <_av500_> jkridner: :) Aug 26 16:07:23 <_av500_> neem0: still there? Aug 26 16:07:24 hello Aug 26 16:07:26 <_av500_> ok Aug 26 16:07:28 ofc Aug 26 16:07:35 other window Aug 26 16:07:39 wait, i thought your job was chasing beagleboard users... Aug 26 16:07:43 <_av500_> so first of all: Aug 26 16:07:57 <_av500_> thank you all for participating in GSoC 2015 for beagleboard.org Aug 26 16:08:02 <_av500_> that goes for students and mentors Aug 26 16:08:06 <_av500_> thanks a lot! Aug 26 16:08:11 woohoo! Aug 26 16:08:23 <_av500_> I just read all 8 reports and I was happy too see all what was accomplished Aug 26 16:08:59 <_av500_> also most evaluations are already in Aug 26 16:09:18 <_av500_> jkridner: hint hint Aug 26 16:09:26 <_av500_> alexanderhiam: hint hint Aug 26 16:09:32 moto-timo, DiegoTc: help? Aug 26 16:09:38 * nerdboy looking innocent... Aug 26 16:10:09 jkridner: ? Aug 26 16:10:10 <_av500_> so thanks again for the students to be willing to work with us this year Aug 26 16:10:29 DiegoTc, moto-timo: will you be doing evaluations? Aug 26 16:10:32 <_av500_> you already gave some feedback through the evaluations and we will look at that closely Aug 26 16:10:41 jkridner: just filled evaluation (before the meeting) Aug 26 16:10:55 <_av500_> if you want to give us more feedback, please feel free to do so either through your mentor or directly to me Aug 26 16:11:20 <_av500_> feel free to send a mail if its not meant to be public Aug 26 16:11:20 jkridner: thought that we needed reports first, but it wasn't like that Aug 26 16:11:55 <_av500_> same goes for the mentors, but I will send an mail asking for a post-gsoc review anyway Aug 26 16:14:16 <_av500_> in case you have not seen yet, one of the former GSoC projects reached the final 10 in the hackaday contest: Aug 26 16:14:19 <_av500_> http://hackaday.com/2015/08/24/10-best-product-finalists-announced/ Aug 26 16:14:55 Excellent ! Aug 26 16:14:58 <_av500_> Abhishek_: congrats! Aug 26 16:15:18 Congrats Abhishek_ Aug 26 16:15:21 good job! Aug 26 16:15:30 woohoo Abhishek_! Aug 26 16:15:35 congrats Abhishek_ Aug 26 16:15:44 Abhishek_: that's awesome! Congrats! Aug 26 16:15:45 Congrats Abhishek_!! Aug 26 16:15:52 <_av500_> arianepaola: next year for GSoC please work on better internet in Luxembourg :) Aug 26 16:17:20 <_av500_> it goes without saying that all of you are more than welcome to be part of the Beagleboard cummunity after GSoC Aug 26 16:17:29 <_av500_> community even* :) Aug 26 16:17:38 welcome and encouraged! Aug 26 16:17:48 glad to be a part! Aug 26 16:17:49 :) Aug 26 16:17:49 +1,000,000 Aug 26 16:17:55 <_av500_> some people show up here year after year :) Aug 26 16:17:58 and thanks for having us for GSoC2015 ! Aug 26 16:18:03 <_av500_> vvu seems to be a lifer now Aug 26 16:18:09 <_av500_> neem0: you're welcome Aug 26 16:18:32 take your projects on now in your own direction.... make sure you get whatever you want in the images that ship and show off to all your friends! Aug 26 16:18:37 <_av500_> and we have quite a few students that become mentors in followup years Aug 26 16:18:55 <_av500_> thank you for staying Aug 26 16:19:44 thank you all Beagleboard.org mentors for this wonderful experience. Aug 26 16:19:44 <_av500_> and of course thank you jkridner for making beagleboard possible! Aug 26 16:19:56 <_av500_> you were not alone, but you do playa big part Aug 26 16:20:05 <_av500_> shubhangi: thansk Aug 26 16:20:05 haven't had time Aug 26 16:20:07 jkridner: I have to send you images and report of the BBB you send us Aug 26 16:20:18 just saying thank you guys for this great opportunity, was a special summer for me this time! glad to keep on with you :) Aug 26 16:20:26 <_av500_> ebadawy: thanks Aug 26 16:20:42 jkridner: o7, thanks for an awesome hardware platform Aug 26 16:20:49 _av500_: thanks. not always as organized as I'd like, but together we keep showing the power of choosing to work as a community. Aug 26 16:20:50 and for a great community @all Aug 26 16:21:01 * apaar_ had a great time, thank you everyone :) Aug 26 16:21:03 <_av500_> jkridner: :) Aug 26 16:21:09 it was really a great time. thanks all Aug 26 16:21:33 Thank you everyone! Was a great experience... Aug 26 16:21:56 thanks everyone. I enjoyed it a lot. It was a great learning experience. :) Aug 26 16:21:57 vmayoral imuguruza: Special thanks for mentoring me Aug 26 16:22:10 students: keep showing off your work and taking advantage of what you did this summer. Aug 26 16:22:33 * jkridner hopes everyone feels they benefited from the #beagle mentors/mentoring. Aug 26 16:22:36 rohith: you're welcome, twe're glad to take part on this Aug 26 16:22:37 jkridner: surely will do Aug 26 16:22:56 :) Aug 26 16:23:31 it's the end of GSoC, but the projects and community go on Aug 26 16:23:39 * neem0 Hurray to that! Aug 26 16:24:16 <_av500_> :) Aug 26 16:24:34 :) Aug 26 16:24:54 _av500_ & jkridner share your pictures when you go to google gsoc meeting Aug 26 16:25:04 <_av500_> DiegoTc: will do Aug 26 16:25:15 * jkridner isn't likely to go this year. Aug 26 16:25:25 new baby and all. :-D Aug 26 16:25:31 <_av500_> oh, congrats! Aug 26 16:25:34 what's the deal on that? Aug 26 16:25:38 jkridner: Congrats! Aug 26 16:25:45 <_av500_> nerdboy: like little people, you know Aug 26 16:25:45 _av500_: due 10/1.... so, not here yet. Aug 26 16:25:47 congrats jkridner Aug 26 16:25:48 jkridner: congratulations! Aug 26 16:25:48 <_av500_> ah Aug 26 16:25:58 congrats jkrinder! Aug 26 16:26:00 not the baby... Aug 26 16:26:01 <_av500_> jkridner: so still in memphies Aug 26 16:26:02 jkridner: congratulations Aug 26 16:26:02 Congratulations Aug 26 16:26:07 :-D Aug 26 16:26:07 <_av500_> memphis Aug 26 16:26:14 but happy baby anyway... Aug 26 16:26:18 <_av500_> a beaglepup Aug 26 16:26:24 jkridner :congrats :) Aug 26 16:26:25 memphis? Aug 26 16:26:33 * jkridner wonders what is in memphis. Aug 26 16:26:38 <_av500_> https://xkcd.com/281/ Aug 26 16:27:03 ah. Aug 26 16:27:12 the deal on the google mentor-y mtg? Aug 26 16:27:16 yup, still in memphis. :-D Aug 26 16:27:33 * nerdboy not sure what login ID it's asking for... Aug 26 16:27:39 <_av500_> nerdboy: mentor summit Aug 26 16:27:39 * jkridner will be back on the trade show circuit come CES. Aug 26 16:27:53 yeah, i clicked on it... Aug 26 16:28:09 login id Aug 26 16:29:17 ? Aug 26 16:29:38 jkridner: would there be small gifts of TI store like last year to students? Aug 26 16:30:35 the "summit" link Aug 26 16:31:24 I'm double booked this morning, so just checking if anything import I missed? Aug 26 16:31:34 besides the final eval obviously Aug 26 16:31:42 yup, we're done Aug 26 16:31:49 you missed it Aug 26 16:32:32 <_av500_> moto-timo: you missed the OMAP7 raffle Aug 26 16:32:47 <_av500_> ds2: hi Aug 26 16:32:49 blah Aug 26 16:33:06 <_av500_> ds2: you missed the OMAP7 raffle too Aug 26 16:33:12 :) Aug 26 16:33:33 <_av500_> 26) Closing remarks: Aug 26 16:33:35 No problem, I prefer the OMAP8 Aug 26 16:33:36 <_av500_> THANKS ALL! Aug 26 16:33:53 <_av500_> as said, we're here, on IRC, on the ML, private mail Aug 26 16:35:11 thanks for hosting the final meeting _av500_ and most of the other ones :) Aug 26 16:35:35 and see y'all here at random times in all possible timezones :D Aug 26 16:35:36 yeah .. speacial thanks to _av500_ . great job Aug 26 16:35:44 <_av500_> thanks Aug 26 16:35:48 special* Aug 26 16:36:10 _av500_: & jkridner google code in this year? Aug 26 16:36:34 DiegoTc: I'll have to ping Cathy to help with TI gifts. Aug 26 16:37:00 will mentors be included :) Aug 26 16:37:09 or just students Aug 26 16:37:19 mentors get a lump of coal Aug 26 16:37:21 _av500_: is the apaar eval stuff sorted out?? Aug 26 16:37:36 <_av500_> ds2: not yet Aug 26 16:37:37 http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Main_Page <= secret mentor handshake? Aug 26 16:37:38 <_av500_> pls do Aug 26 16:37:50 <_av500_> ds2: alexanderhiam: ^^^ Aug 26 16:38:11 * moto-timo goes afk again Aug 26 16:38:59 oops. ds2: I can take care of that in need be Aug 26 16:39:15 alaxanderhiam: you're getting the pester mails right? Aug 26 16:39:21 yeah Aug 26 16:39:28 'k then I'll ignore it Aug 26 16:39:30 <_av500_> neem0: still in china? Aug 26 16:40:49 azizulhakim: ping Aug 26 16:41:01 _av500_: nope, finally in Croatia Aug 26 16:41:03 vvu Aug 26 16:41:04 just woke up, kinda missed all the phun here :) Aug 26 16:41:21 <_av500_> neem0: dobro! Aug 26 16:41:23 can't describe what a rejuvination a normal internet line is Aug 26 16:41:30 _av500_: ne dobro, odlicno! :D Aug 26 16:41:47 vvu: heheh Aug 26 16:41:59 * nerdboy played a dobro once... Aug 26 16:42:10 never owned one tho Aug 26 16:42:13 _av500_: who's our rep to HQ for summit? Aug 26 16:42:20 <_av500_> Abhishek_ and me Aug 26 16:42:21 but yeah... I'm counting on going back at some point, but now that I've tasted the good uplinks once more, I'm kinda scared :D Aug 26 16:42:26 <_av500_> heh Aug 26 16:43:12 azizulhakim: so n5 is screwing things up ? Aug 26 16:43:13 * nerdboy would think about going to summit if he knew the secret handshake... Aug 26 16:43:21 _av500_: going to Belgrade soon though. Have to catch up on my yearly pljeskavica quota ! :D Aug 26 16:43:29 <_av500_> nerdboy: there is a waiting list Aug 26 16:43:33 <_av500_> nerdboy: if you want to go Aug 26 16:43:45 put me on it? Aug 26 16:43:45 can't tell who is responsible, but for sure the urb transfers are failing Aug 26 16:43:55 which line is the first one to fail ? Aug 26 16:44:01 <_av500_> neem0: odlicno! Aug 26 16:44:10 Hey Aug 26 16:44:38 _av500_ neem0: Zdravo! Aug 26 16:44:47 Thank you all :) Aug 26 16:45:00 are the details secret too? Aug 26 16:45:29 <_av500_> nerdboy: no Aug 26 16:45:35 <_av500_> they are in the emails that google sends out Aug 26 16:45:47 though i couldn't test on n5, i did on one plus one. so i'm guessing same is happening for n5 and it'll happen for many other device. Aug 26 16:45:55 need to find out the reason Aug 26 16:46:00 <_av500_> nerdboy: the ones from Carol Aug 26 16:46:12 rohith: Pozdrav! Aug 26 16:46:35 azizulhakim: can you make an issue on github to keep track ? Aug 26 16:46:41 nerdboy: quite lost on your conversation :( Aug 26 16:46:47 yeah sure Aug 26 16:47:06 rohith: Serbo-Croatian is funky :D Aug 26 16:47:18 <_av500_> neem0: that language is long gone :) Aug 26 16:47:29 neem0: Serbs and Croats are quite similar, no? Aug 26 16:47:42 <_av500_> rohith: not if you ask either of them Aug 26 16:47:51 Hehe Aug 26 16:47:51 <_av500_> :) Aug 26 16:47:57 _av500_: true that, though reallistically (I have some extra Ls for sure), they're the same language, different dialects Aug 26 16:48:11 <_av500_> neem0: I know Aug 26 16:48:38 _av500_: though those are semantics :D, serbian is equally Croatian as Istrian (Chakavian) is Croatian, so I sort them all under South Slavic Aug 26 16:49:12 except that Serbian sounds hillarous to me, as I sound hillarous to my Serbian friends! Good times were had only on semantics! :D Aug 26 16:49:17 jkridner: So you wouldn't be there at this GSoC mentor summit? Aug 26 16:49:25 no, I don't think sol Aug 26 16:49:27 so Aug 26 16:50:36 rohith: but anyway, it's the same language. Some percentage of each countries populace has a tendancy to denounce the other (aka super complicated political BS) Aug 26 16:51:04 neem0: I get what you mean :P Aug 26 16:51:06 rohith: So I sort that problem by calling myself a Yugoslav (or Istrian if we're specific) Aug 26 16:51:12 to each their own I guess Aug 26 16:51:26 <_av500_> neem0: +1 Aug 26 16:51:43 <_av500_> Abhishek_: dont worry, you will do just fine :) Aug 26 16:51:51 glad you agree _av500_ Aug 26 16:52:32 but it's a heavy topic rohith, and mostly a sad one and here/today is happy, so some other time :D Aug 26 16:52:52 the Balkans are cool for a trip and some good eating though :P Aug 26 16:53:01 <_av500_> +11 Aug 26 16:53:09 neem0: Sure! Didn't want to get into specifics :P Aug 26 16:53:10 But jkridner would be missed though. Congratulations btw :) Aug 26 16:53:24 <_av500_> Abhishek_: he will change his mind :) Aug 26 16:53:47 * ebadawy hopes to meet with beagleboard community one day Aug 26 16:53:54 +1 Aug 26 16:54:12 rohith: :) specifics are what make it interesting Aug 26 16:54:17 <_av500_> ebadawy: to be honest, even I know most of the community only from IRC :) Aug 26 16:54:19 also ebadawy +1 Aug 26 16:54:31 Join #beagle :) Aug 26 16:54:40 georgraphy is a leech though Aug 26 16:54:55 ;) Aug 26 16:55:32 IRC can cut across geographic and time zone barriers :) Aug 26 16:55:49 that much is true Abhishek_ for sure :D Aug 26 16:56:00 * neem0 needs a dedicated IRC server Aug 26 16:56:08 neem0: I guess its the same everywhere when people share a common language across borders Aug 26 16:56:29 neem0: yeah, it definitely worth :) Aug 26 16:57:16 * Abhishek_ collected his issued US visa from the Consulate yesterday Aug 26 16:57:26 rohith: weeeeeelll, yeah, but there's a very very big catch for Cro/Serbia and the rest of the Balkans which never seems to go away, not even after 25 years Aug 26 16:58:20 rohith: in my opinion the biggest stupidity of these parts, but... it's complicated... and stupid, very very stupid (read huge shame_ Aug 26 16:58:40 Abhishek_: are you leaving right after the summit? Aug 26 16:58:41 <_av500_> ok everybody Aug 26 16:58:44 <_av500_> my time is up Aug 26 16:58:47 rohith: but anyway, it's ancient history, if you ask me Aug 26 16:58:47 <_av500_> thank you again Aug 26 16:58:50 moto-timo: so are you coming to Honduras after your project? Aug 26 16:58:59 _av500_: thanks for the meeting! Aug 26 16:59:06 an see you all around still :D Aug 26 16:59:09 thanks everyone Aug 26 16:59:13 thanks _av500_! Aug 26 16:59:22 ebadawy: any recommendations for an IRC sevice? or do you have a home server? Aug 26 16:59:31 _av500_: See you around! Aug 26 16:59:49 thanks everyone :) Aug 26 16:59:57 Thank you everyone :) Aug 26 17:01:09 ds2: I aim to stay for a few days , will let you know just before the summit. Aug 26 17:01:12 neem0: ummm, not sure I got you on that? Aug 26 17:02:34 Abhishek_: All the best for Hackaday! Aug 26 17:03:27 Thanks! Aug 26 17:03:41 ebadawy> neem0: yeah, it definitely worth :) ? was that towards IRC services/servers? Aug 26 17:04:27 Abhishek_: have fun at the summit. best of luck for hackaday prize :) Aug 26 17:06:11 Thank you shubhangi. And carry on with the good work done so far :) Aug 26 17:06:34 When's your joining at Oracle? Aug 26 17:11:02 neem0: oh... I meant having the meeting despite the fact of geography leech :) Aug 26 17:11:29 ebadawy: Ah! That tooo! Aug 26 17:11:34 :) Aug 26 17:12:58 Btw, anyone watches football? Aug 26 17:13:41 (not the american one) Aug 26 17:13:52 DiegoTc: this year looks very busy :( Aug 26 17:17:37 you mean champions league stuff? Aug 26 17:20:37 nerdboy: yes Aug 26 17:21:23 we don't get most of those channels... Aug 26 17:21:29 kinda sucks Aug 26 17:21:38 :( Aug 26 17:22:19 * nerdboy getting peeved at the "exclusive" deals with channels i don't have Aug 26 17:23:22 nerdboy: What stuff do you generally watch? Aug 26 17:24:20 scifi maybe Aug 26 17:24:47 * rohith likes Sci-Fi too Aug 26 17:25:19 mls sometimes, and the tournaments they actually broadcast on "normal" channels Aug 26 17:25:25 Movies or documentaries? Aug 26 17:25:45 pbs stuff Aug 26 17:25:57 frontline, nova, etc Aug 26 17:27:11 Nice! Aug 26 17:29:40 pbs news seems to have caved to the redneck threats of killing all the funding if they didn't get with the "fair-and-balanced-propaganda" program Aug 26 17:29:57 rest of pbs is still good Aug 26 17:30:47 * nerdboy does not enjoy living in george orwell dystopic fantasy Aug 26 17:31:54 truly, it does suck, just as he predicted... Aug 26 17:32:44 * rohith has read Animal Farm Aug 26 17:48:26 Abhishek_: i joined oracle last week .. been pretty busy with the relocation. best of luck for your placements too .. if you are going to sit for them Aug 26 17:48:49 * nerdboy listening to the squeaky hummingbird song... Aug 26 17:54:50 * apaar_ looks at everyone getting jobs and stuff have 2 years 11 months of college to go :P Aug 26 18:00:49 apaar_: enjoy it while you can. Do not rush into work life :) Aug 26 18:10:22 shubhangi: maybe you can straighten them out on a few open source concepts? Aug 26 18:10:31 that would be awesome... Aug 26 18:11:17 nerdboy: are you trying to get the offer of employment rescinded? Aug 26 18:11:35 just tryin' to help i swear... Aug 26 18:12:11 can i help it if they need a big cluebat session? Aug 26 18:12:59 why not also suggest they spin off the old Sun :D Aug 26 18:13:59 all i know is larry was waymore crazy the scott... Aug 26 18:15:03 he literally shows up at linuxcon in a huge stretch limo full of dancing girls ... Aug 26 18:15:51 shubhangi: Congratulations and all the best :) Aug 26 18:16:09 * Abhishek_ is exempt from placements season this year Aug 26 18:20:48 and I am looking forward to internship opportunities for the next summer. Aug 26 18:25:39 * nerdboy being generous by not saying "entourage of hookers"... Aug 26 18:25:44 oops Aug 26 19:16:52 ds2: evaluation submitted Aug 26 19:22:03 nerdboy: will try to :p .. they just formed a team to work on nodejs at my office Aug 26 19:22:24 * shubhangi wonders if she is violating the NDA Aug 26 19:33:41 better zip it then Aug 26 19:33:52 (but that was pretty generic/safe) Aug 26 19:35:48 ugh, NDAs. Glad I don't have a real job! Aug 26 19:36:52 watch it bub Aug 26 19:37:10 actually I still run into NDAs Aug 26 19:37:15 everybody wants nda these days Aug 26 19:37:20 pretty much in the consulting businees Aug 26 19:37:23 *business Aug 26 19:37:40 alexanderhiam: nerdboy -> https://github.com/nvisnjic/BeagleSat/wiki/Sensor-Testing#visualize, better? Aug 26 19:37:52 but i follow the gpl, so there needs to be separation... Aug 26 19:37:52 no NDAs required Aug 26 19:37:53 :) Aug 26 19:38:31 Abhishek_: we are a small women-owned business Aug 26 19:38:48 and available for verious things Aug 26 19:38:56 *various even Aug 26 19:39:20 feel free to subcontract stuff Aug 26 19:39:32 neemo: labels are good. Would be nice to also have a quick description of what that plot shows Aug 26 19:39:56 e.g. "You can see the raw data has an offset and noise... blah blah" Aug 26 19:40:00 <_av500_> alexanderhiam: noo, keep that secret until the big reveal at the end! Aug 26 19:40:10 <_av500_> build up the suspense Aug 26 19:40:15 ha! Aug 26 19:40:50 if the important stuff is not in the abstract and the intro you get a smack Aug 26 19:41:33 * nerdboy seen way to many horrible abstracts Aug 26 19:41:51 shades of grading senior thesis... Aug 26 19:42:45 alexanderhiam: well, the hover works instead of the supposed caption (not sure why Github does that), but a nice description will follow Aug 26 19:43:02 neemo: you never actually say "BeagleSat includes an implementation of an ellipsoid fitting algorithm, which...." Aug 26 19:43:20 oh, didn't see the hover Aug 26 19:43:23 that comes in the Algorithm explenation part Aug 26 19:43:30 of the wiki Aug 26 19:43:32 don't count on that for important data Aug 26 19:43:37 which is still being written in my head Aug 26 19:43:43 gotcha Aug 26 19:43:49 yeah, that's why I went with the legend Aug 26 19:43:58 discrete but still there Aug 26 19:44:37 but yeah, I'll patch it up later tonight/tomorrow and then figure out how to push an API doc from doxygen to mds for github :D Aug 26 19:44:52 neemo: have you had a chance to do any timing tests with the Python implementation? Aug 26 19:45:03 would be good to get some latency numbers at some point Aug 26 19:45:07 hmmm Aug 26 19:45:11 well I didn't no Aug 26 19:45:20 but I think fitting is super fast Aug 26 19:45:25 (but that's not part of the GSoC stuff, so don't let that distract you from the docs!) Aug 26 19:45:36 the usual test takes 1 minute, but that one minute of data sampling Aug 26 19:45:43 not processing Aug 26 19:45:59 I think the fitting should be same or close to speed in Octave/MATLAB Aug 26 19:46:16 since it uses the same fortran code in the background, or so I understood by diving in the docs for 2 days straight :) Aug 26 19:46:39 LAPACK, if i'm not mistaken Aug 26 19:47:17 oh, in the numpy backend? Aug 26 19:47:29 but sure, I'll do timing test in the next couple of days, I'll run it between a couple of .md files :D Aug 26 19:48:09 yup, numpy linalg Aug 26 19:48:25 uses LAPACK in the background, same as MATLAB Aug 26 19:48:40 cool. I've always just used numpy as a black box, haven't actually looked into how it's implemented Aug 26 19:48:57 yeah Aug 26 19:49:03 was surprised as well Aug 26 19:49:08 but seems good, and works nicely Aug 26 19:49:27 now just to figure out how to harvest that power to the the invariant stuff and we're golden Aug 26 19:49:38 but that comes after I generate the docs Aug 26 19:50:05 <_av500_> alexanderhiam: reminds me of a M$ paper on the realtime caps of some windows version Aug 26 19:50:25 <_av500_> it was very long and elaborate and had a lot of graphs and formulas all based on a time T_r Aug 26 19:50:43 <_av500_> explaining all the latencies in relation to T_r etc... Aug 26 19:50:53 <_av500_> at the end on the last page it said: T_r is to be determined Aug 26 19:51:07 lol Aug 26 19:51:38 then they called it, flexible scheduling? Aug 26 19:51:57 :D Aug 26 19:53:30 lol, that sounds like M$ Aug 26 19:55:11 neemo: that's a snazzy logo btw Aug 26 19:55:24 PyBBIO needs a snazzy logo Aug 26 19:56:32 alexanderhiam: the BeagleNaut? Aug 26 19:56:36 yeah Aug 26 19:57:16 yeah, that was a stroke of inspiration while GIMPing for the intro video for 5 days straight Aug 26 19:57:19 :) Aug 26 19:57:50 and I have to say I pulled a lot of inspiration from BeaglePilot's logo, thanks vmayoral & co Aug 26 19:58:16 alexanderhiam: also expect a couple of more pulls into PyBBIO Aug 26 19:58:28 need to get one or two more sensors running in the near future :) Aug 26 19:58:39 the only thing I can think of for PyBBIO is a python wrapped around a beagle... Aug 26 19:59:00 cool. I gotta get some of these IMUs so I can actually start playing with it Aug 26 19:59:07 Anybody - suggestions for a BeagleLogic logo? Aug 26 19:59:32 Abhishek_: didn't you have something? Aug 26 19:59:47 Abhishek_: Beagle with a tablet with ones and zeros ? Aug 26 19:59:52 it's just text at the moment, looking for ideas on graphical logos. Aug 26 20:00:19 https://github.com/abhishek-kakkar/BeagleLogic/blob/master/logo.png Aug 26 20:00:23 tablet as in stone tablet and make him a Philosopher (ei Logic) Aug 26 20:00:23 I thought I remembered an pulse train sort of an image... Aug 26 20:06:04 logo's are nice Aug 26 20:06:28 but they're sometimes tricky to fit the project :/ BeagleSat was easy though Aug 26 20:06:41 anyway, I'm off to say goodbyes to some poeple nearby Aug 26 20:06:49 catch you guys here a bit later Aug 26 21:04:11 jkridner: Haven't heard from Zoe yet. I should follow up Aug 26 21:07:33 alexanderhiam: i'm not sure a snake eating a puppy would be a very good logo... Aug 26 21:13:09 agreed Aug 26 21:17:22 unless you're on seal-team 7... Aug 26 21:17:38 then it would be perfectly acceptable Aug 26 21:17:52 with devil-horns and a trident Aug 26 21:18:19 or yet-another NRO launch mission patch... Aug 26 21:19:02 feel free to guess what the snake-eating-puppy satellite does Aug 26 21:21:25 maybe I could do something with that abstract snake thingy that's the Python logo... like put it next to a beagle.... Aug 26 21:21:34 idk, logo's are way too hard Aug 26 21:22:53 * alexanderhiam is off for the night Aug 26 21:25:19 we have graphics person and it's not any easier... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 27 02:59:58 2015