**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 17 02:59:58 2016 Aug 17 13:54:02 ~2 hours to last meeting. Aug 17 14:02:27 Hello everyone!! When is the meeting? Aug 17 14:49:25 1:10 to meeting Aug 17 15:01:50 Hi Abhishek_ Aug 17 15:01:53 there ? Aug 17 15:03:04 yes Aug 17 15:03:40 Abhishek_: was the report fine ? Aug 17 15:03:46 upto the mark ? Aug 17 15:04:07 Any thing you would want me to add ? Aug 17 15:11:51 Abhishek_: I would really appreciate any comment on that .. Aug 17 15:12:58 Morning m_w ! Aug 17 15:13:13 greetings Aug 17 15:13:29 read the final report ? Aug 17 15:13:31 how is everyone doing? Aug 17 15:13:48 yes I went through them all Aug 17 15:14:07 well all that were posted Aug 17 15:14:11 Anything you would want me to add ? or any comments on that ? Aug 17 15:15:09 ZeekHuge: are you planning on continuing work on the project outside of GSoC? Aug 17 15:15:26 definitely ! I will complete it ! Aug 17 15:16:09 ZeekHuge: first, very detailed and well-written report. Aug 17 15:16:18 okay so then might want to mention that :) Aug 17 15:17:05 Actually the problem is, I really want a oscilloscope and I dont like those bulky boxes ;) So need to develop one for me . Aug 17 15:17:18 hi everyone Aug 17 15:17:54 ahh .. okay. There will be more reports under the same Subject in the ml . So I will add that in them . Aug 17 15:17:57 hey pmezydlo Aug 17 15:18:00 Abhishek_: Thank you :) Aug 17 15:19:04 m_w: What do you think about my report, is it ok? Aug 17 15:19:29 pmezydlo: sure, it is fine Aug 17 15:19:55 pmezydlo: how is the review with gkh going? Aug 17 15:20:56 pmezydlo: he did not seem too enthusastic about the code. Aug 17 15:21:10 I have again improved the code, mainly to change the variable names Aug 17 15:23:15 and I must send it using 'git send-email' Aug 17 15:25:21 pmezydlo: ? git send-email ? is that really a command ? Aug 17 15:25:34 git says that it is not. Aug 17 15:26:16 ZeekHuge: https://git-scm.com/docs/git-send-email Aug 17 15:30:06 pmezydlo: Aug 17 15:30:08 zeekhuge@zeekhuge:~/Projects/OpenSource/ZeekHuge/BeagleScope$ git send-email --dump-aliases Aug 17 15:30:08 git: 'send-email' is not a git command. See 'git --help'. Aug 17 15:30:15 Am i doing something silly Aug 17 15:30:16 ? Aug 17 15:31:10 https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/HowToUseGitSendEmail/ Aug 17 15:31:16 you have to install it Aug 17 15:31:58 sudo apt-get install git-email Aug 17 15:32:15 oh ! okay, though its built into git . Aug 17 15:33:13 *thought Aug 17 15:33:25 then configure it Aug 17 15:33:52 alway use your proper name for user.name Aug 17 15:35:16 always Aug 17 15:37:21 okay. Aug 17 15:37:57 at least if you want your patches to go upstream Aug 17 15:41:06 alway properly explain each commit and sign them Aug 17 15:41:38 always Aug 17 15:41:58 my fingers are still asleep Aug 17 15:52:31 tick tick... Aug 17 15:53:33 looks like av500 is out today Aug 17 15:53:39 * alexhiam is just getting in the car to go to work so won't respond for 15min or so... Aug 17 15:53:41 hola beagle-gsocers Aug 17 15:54:58 so nerdboy will direct the meeting today Aug 17 15:56:33 huh? Aug 17 15:56:55 I am volunteering you :) Aug 17 15:57:12 okay I will do it Aug 17 15:57:21 HE HE HE Aug 17 15:58:10 It's about time Aug 17 15:58:19 well, in the begiining... Aug 17 15:58:23 ~2 minutes. Aug 17 15:58:45 so if you haven't submitted your final report, do it ASAP! Aug 17 15:58:49 there was only IBM and univac... Aug 17 15:58:50 ah m_w and bradfa mdp Abhishek_ I have just sent in my report Aug 17 15:59:01 I am really very sorry for being late Aug 17 15:59:04 or doooomed! Aug 17 15:59:06 pmezydlo, ZeekHuge, amragaey, chanakya_vc, henrix_ Aug 17 15:59:18 Visaoni? Aug 17 15:59:35 Hi Aug 17 15:59:48 the kid is still missing Aug 17 15:59:50 might have to send out a search team Aug 17 15:59:57 Hi ! Aug 17 16:00:03 Hi all Aug 17 16:00:04 bradfa, mdp I have tried to incoporate all the changes that you had suggested . I hope that it is up to the mark] Aug 17 16:00:11 so chanakya_vc makes 4 so far Aug 17 16:00:11 chanakya_vc: ok, I'll read it shortly :) Aug 17 16:00:18 kiran4399 Aug 17 16:00:28 isn't here yet, was here a few minutes ago Aug 17 16:00:47 but he did a final Aug 17 16:00:59 * bradfa sees 5 final reports Aug 17 16:00:59 * nerdboy is counting like the count Aug 17 16:01:13 ah ah ahhhh Aug 17 16:01:22 m_w, Can I quickly go and grab a bite for dinner. I will be back in 5 minutes promise Aug 17 16:01:36 go ahead Aug 17 16:01:46 Thanks m_w Aug 17 16:01:50 hi Aug 17 16:01:58 so we will start in 4 minutes Aug 17 16:02:07 do let more people show up Aug 17 16:02:10 to Aug 17 16:02:16 my hostel mess closes in 5 minutes :P Aug 17 16:02:36 yum hostel food Aug 17 16:02:45 yup, found one hidden under "weekly" Aug 17 16:03:12 I think we got most of the reports now Aug 17 16:04:15 i think we have the ones we are going to get Aug 17 16:04:34 so visaoni bit the dust? Aug 17 16:04:58 or went to the moon Aug 17 16:05:05 does g-doc have a way to export to HTML ? Aug 17 16:05:14 i have no idea since the last hangout promises Aug 17 16:05:30 would be nice to have the g-doc (ones) resent so it gets archived on the gsoc list Aug 17 16:05:33 ds2: file->download as->webpage Aug 17 16:06:08 or odf2html Aug 17 16:06:17 whatever it is called... Aug 17 16:06:22 chanakya_vc: it might be nice if you could send an actual copy of the report to the list so it is in the archives Aug 17 16:06:44 chanakya_vc, ZeekHuge, amragaey, kiran4399, pmezydlo, henrix_ has submitted "final" reports Aug 17 16:08:52 so lets do this, in av500 style Aug 17 16:09:00 0) WELCOME Aug 17 16:09:33 1) who's here Aug 17 16:09:42 i'm hi Aug 17 16:09:43 I am ! Aug 17 16:09:46 Hi Aug 17 16:09:47 Hi Aug 17 16:10:29 ^^ mess is 5 Aug 17 16:11:13 and 1 more plus a ghost Aug 17 16:12:18 so we are missing kiran4399 and Visaoni Aug 17 16:13:26 2) documentation Aug 17 16:13:37 * chanakya_vc sneaks back Aug 17 16:14:06 does anyone have questions about what needs to be done for proper documentation? Aug 17 16:14:56 Just the wiki page on the repo right? Aug 17 16:14:58 also be aware that you have to submit code into the GSoC portal as well. Aug 17 16:15:16 \/* No comment *\/ Aug 17 16:15:42 the wiki page is good Aug 17 16:15:44 It could be done after final evals in the previous years but IIRC this year it has to be submitted for the final evals. Aug 17 16:16:02 It should basically explain the working of each part of the code developed. right ? Aug 17 16:16:07 and how can it be used. Aug 17 16:16:38 Abhishek_, what is IIRC ? Aug 17 16:16:38 I would also good through your code and clean up/add inline comments and READMEs Aug 17 16:17:00 "if I remember correctly" Aug 17 16:18:25 it is important that your drivers bindings and interfaces are properly documented Aug 17 16:19:13 I'm here..forgot to check in Aug 17 16:19:50 bonus points for things like doxygen, videos, etc Aug 17 16:20:08 demos are really nice Aug 17 16:20:43 okay. Aug 17 16:21:05 know that everything related to your project has to be accessible from a single URL link for submission Aug 17 16:22:24 this is probably your wiki in most cases but make sure that everything is navigable from there Aug 17 16:22:49 how about gh-pages in the same repo ? Aug 17 16:23:12 that would be a different link. Aug 17 16:23:50 I think this is fine as long as it points back to the code and has all of the documentation pointed out Aug 17 16:24:02 okay. Aug 17 16:24:23 man pages are cool if you are old school Aug 17 16:24:32 if configure doxygen for almost everything you get a lot without using any doxy comments Aug 17 16:24:40 *if you... Aug 17 16:24:53 hi Aug 17 16:24:55 am i late? Aug 17 16:25:07 hey kiran4399 Aug 17 16:25:09 yes Aug 17 16:25:12 generate html and put in gh-pages or so Aug 17 16:25:21 when did the meeting start? m_w? Aug 17 16:25:22 but we are still on the first topic Aug 17 16:25:34 will be post the document separate, or the wiki we will write within repo ? Aug 17 16:25:35 yes I am in charge today Aug 17 16:25:53 we are talking about documentation Aug 17 16:26:00 if you haven't used it before, finish up your other stuff first Aug 17 16:26:05 m_w: any specific questions you all need to ask me? Aug 17 16:26:12 then come back and ask Aug 17 16:26:40 kiran4399: not yet Aug 17 16:26:48 Mmmmm nroff Aug 17 16:26:56 * nerdboy luvs me some doxygen and graphviz... Aug 17 16:27:26 amr_ragaey: everything has be somehow accessible from a single url Aug 17 16:28:08 I have different phases on my project, different repos! Aug 17 16:28:09 like a start page Aug 17 16:28:21 then links to everything Aug 17 16:28:29 put pointers in readme to everything else? Aug 17 16:28:29 on a single page Aug 17 16:28:47 or gh-pages/index.foo Aug 17 16:29:20 I wrote code in bone101, and bonescript.. each one is different than other Aug 17 16:29:48 m_w, The wiki page is a part of the repo right...so as you suggested we could simply submit the link to that couldn't we? I mean one can navigate to the code written in a repo from the wiki page. Aug 17 16:30:28 source readme might be a better starting point Aug 17 16:30:30 amr_ragaey: I understand that you were working on different repos, perhaps links to commits or merge requests would work Aug 17 16:30:44 use rst for readme Aug 17 16:31:10 or md if that's your thing Aug 17 16:31:30 chanakya_vc: I would have links to make sure that people know what is where Aug 17 16:32:11 Okay so links in the wiki page also? Aug 17 16:32:23 In the content Aug 17 16:32:34 something like that Aug 17 16:33:16 ok Aug 17 16:33:20 okay gotcha m_w Aug 17 16:33:32 elinux.org could be used if you like wiki Aug 17 16:33:57 seeing as we all had to sign up for that Aug 17 16:34:01 wiki page on github won't work? Aug 17 16:34:04 Yeah Aug 17 16:34:21 no the github wiki is fine Aug 17 16:34:26 so many options Aug 17 16:34:35 chanakya_vc: since you use github..just use the associated wiki Aug 17 16:34:36 I am just throwing out ideas Aug 17 16:34:45 chanakya_vc: that would make most sense imho Aug 17 16:35:26 mdp, I had started doing the documentation on github already..really don'twant to shift now :P Aug 17 16:35:39 of course Aug 17 16:36:13 nerdboy: how is .rst better than .md Aug 17 16:36:15 ? Aug 17 16:36:17 everyone hopefully documented along the way so this should be so painful Aug 17 16:36:25 shouldn't Aug 17 16:38:35 " Aug 17 16:38:39 Students clean their code, write tests, improve documentation, and submit their code samples. Students also complete their final evaluations of mentors." Aug 17 16:39:19 3) code clean-up Aug 17 16:39:55 it integrates with more stuff, has more markup options, ans is more readable as text Aug 17 16:40:24 okay Aug 17 16:40:32 plus rSt has a buttload of python and OO tools Aug 17 16:41:09 here is the linux kernel style guide for those soing drivers: Aug 17 16:41:23 Stuhttps://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/CodingStyle Aug 17 16:41:27 oops Aug 17 16:41:33 https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/CodingStyle Aug 17 16:41:42 checkpatch.pl Aug 17 16:41:57 github has rst editor and you can try retext for an rst-specific editor with preview and error messages Aug 17 16:42:23 checkpatch is a good thing to point out mistakes Aug 17 16:42:48 lindent is useful for lazy indenters Aug 17 16:42:49 checkpatch is cool Aug 17 16:43:40 easily add to travis script Aug 17 16:44:15 https://github.com/pmezydlo/SPI_slave_driver_implementation/blob/master/.travis.yml#L45 Aug 17 16:44:43 coding style is very important for people doing review of your code Aug 17 16:45:21 4) submission Aug 17 16:46:06 it is due on August 23rd by 19:00 UTC Aug 17 16:46:45 if you fail to submit your code, you fail Aug 17 16:46:53 plain and simple Aug 17 16:47:14 m_w, Review will be done by our mentors only right m_w ? Aug 17 16:47:27 Or there will be others involved too? Aug 17 16:47:44 yes each student will be assessed by one mentor Aug 17 16:48:10 the same mentor that did your midterm eval Aug 17 16:48:28 with feedback from other mentors of course Aug 17 16:49:24 Okay m_w . I thought people are Google are also involved Aug 17 16:49:29 from google Aug 17 16:49:35 does everyone know where to go for the final submission? Aug 17 16:49:49 m_w: the summerofcode website right? Aug 17 16:49:59 yes Aug 17 16:50:08 yep. Aug 17 16:50:13 yes Aug 17 16:50:24 And submit the link there..I meant that's what you mean by submitting code right m_w ? Aug 17 16:50:35 yes Aug 17 16:50:41 yes Aug 17 16:50:54 pretty straight forward Aug 17 16:51:25 yup got it Aug 17 16:51:31 great Aug 17 16:51:31 ok, so a link to github wiki which references all other documentation related docs (doxygen, ...) should by fine right? Aug 17 16:51:38 yes Aug 17 16:51:50 ok Aug 17 16:51:54 think like a googlebot Aug 17 16:52:00 alright^^ Aug 17 16:52:10 excellent Aug 17 16:52:12 is this our last mtg? Aug 17 16:52:23 m_w, Will we have meeting next week? Aug 17 16:52:46 this mtg never ends... Aug 17 16:52:49 Just for the last time? I mean I have gotten used to these wednesday meetings Aug 17 16:53:11 it will not be manditory but sure we can hang out here next week Aug 17 16:53:26 5) final mentor evaluation Aug 17 16:53:28 Yes..IRC post GSOC party :P Aug 17 16:53:31 m_w: I've a main github repo and another repo... Aug 17 16:53:50 m_w: which link should I give in the form? Aug 17 16:53:57 evaluation form. Aug 17 16:54:09 so I would create another URL that links back to all of your work Aug 17 16:54:16 link one to the other Aug 17 16:54:29 or that Aug 17 16:55:01 m_w: ok.. Aug 17 16:55:09 if a googlebot can crawl itself to all your stuff, i think your are good Aug 17 16:55:38 so you will be asked to evaluate your mentors Aug 17 16:55:57 and I think this is part of the submission process Aug 17 16:56:33 I have two mentors :D Aug 17 16:56:43 Same with me Aug 17 16:56:53 yeah some have many many Aug 17 16:57:09 lol m_w :P Aug 17 16:57:11 I have 4 :-P Aug 17 16:59:48 6) anything else?? Aug 17 17:00:33 nothing from my side. Aug 17 17:02:02 alls fine here too .. Aug 17 17:02:16 all good. Aug 17 17:02:50 thanks for the experience everyone Aug 17 17:03:01 everything seems obvious Aug 17 17:03:15 all is fine Aug 17 17:04:23 thanks a lot too from me. Really great experience Aug 17 17:07:17 Same here. GSOC was definitely a very great experience. Thanks to all my mentors. Hope to continue to work with you post GSOC as well!! Aug 17 17:08:12 m_w, alexhiam bradfa mdp Wormo Abhishek_ ds2 nerdboy ^^ Aug 17 17:08:44 thanks chanakya_vc! it's been a pleasure to work with you. Aug 17 17:09:02 chanakya_vc: :) Aug 17 17:09:37 And it was lovely meeting all the students. I have learnt a lot from you guys. Found some great friends all across the globe!! Aug 17 17:09:39 hang around and contribute to the fine beagle community! Aug 17 17:10:04 I would like to thank you all too, and for my mentor jkridner and alexhiam giving me this opportunity to be in GSoC,, hope to continue working and contribute to beagle community with you after GSoC Aug 17 17:10:08 what's the net acronym for you're welcome? ymmv? Aug 17 17:10:11 ZeekHuge, pmezydlo kiran4399 amr_ragaey henrix_ ^^ Aug 17 17:10:19 Surely ds2!! Aug 17 17:10:57 Also like to thank foreverska .You really helped me during some very difficult situations.. Aug 17 17:11:00 I am not going anywhere :) You will find me here very often :) Aug 17 17:11:25 haha, I don't remember that but you're welcome. Aug 17 17:12:25 ZeekHuge: you've done well so far and integrated with the community well. Keep up your efforts, and I hope to see you around as well. Aug 17 17:17:35 and yeah ... its been a great experience all along. Thanks to all the mentors ! Though i learned a lot along the process, just to mention, some interesting PRU facts (Thank you Abhishek_ ) some cool circuit tricks (Thank you ds2 ) , some subtle linux facts (Thank you mdp ) and some nifty linux, vim and git tricks (thank you nerdboy and Wormo ) some starting PRU guidance (alexhiam). Had some great IRC meetings with _av500_ Aug 17 17:17:35 . and thanks to jkridner for all the equipments . Aug 17 17:17:43 Oh ! missed one ! Aug 17 17:17:57 thank you gcl-bot ! you have been really helpful Aug 17 17:18:19 Abhishek_: Really glad :) For sure ! Aug 17 17:18:51 And Thanks to m_w for always being there ! Aug 17 17:18:55 always ! Aug 17 17:19:04 and always ... Aug 17 17:20:56 jic23: Hi ! the meeting just got over. Aug 17 17:21:30 * ZeekHuge is really hungry -- dinner Aug 17 17:22:51 Will read logd Aug 17 17:23:02 jic23: thanks for pitching in Aug 17 17:23:23 Logs... Aug 17 17:29:51 bradfa, Do tell me if you would want me to add anything to the final report. I can always edit the gsoc Aug 17 17:29:55 gdoc Aug 17 17:30:27 I will take a break for today.continue working on the documentation tomorrow perhaps Aug 17 17:30:31 mdp ^^ Aug 17 17:31:15 Boy was last meeting dull :) all docs and process... Bit like the average real work meeting :) Aug 17 17:31:41 hey jic23 ! Aug 17 17:31:57 Hi chanakya_vc Aug 17 17:32:19 Just wanted to thank you for the critical insights that you gave me during the proposal period Aug 17 17:33:14 I think I would not have really understood the project without those!! Aug 17 17:33:23 You are welcome. I've kind of lost touch but at somepoint want to see where else we can take the spi stuff going forward. Aug 17 17:34:18 Plus we all need to keep poking ti to upstream the pru stuff! Aug 17 17:34:34 jic23: gsoc knows how to keep meetings "real" ;) Aug 17 17:34:46 Sure jic23 I am going to be working on improving my project post GSOC . Aug 17 17:35:11 hopefully someday my work will reach upstream too Aug 17 17:35:55 Cool chanakya_vc interesting bit to my mind is offloading spi interactions without needing an FPGA. Aug 17 17:36:35 MDP. I had a whole meeting about x-raying baked beans yesterday. . Aug 17 17:36:55 Weird world sometimes... Aug 17 17:37:58 Chanakya_vc no reason your stuff can't go in quickly after prerequisites are in place. Aug 17 17:38:27 Probably plenty of time to tidy up loose ends in meantime! Aug 17 17:38:38 I hope to jic23 That is the final aim. Logical conclusion to my project Aug 17 17:39:01 But I have a lot to improve before that happens Aug 17 17:39:31 Nah. Upstreaming is just step one. It's what you enable other people to do that really gets interesting! Aug 17 17:41:02 That and how many years it takes for anyone to find a bug :) I had one in a 6 year old driver yesterday that means it basically never worked and I didn't notice... Aug 17 17:41:09 Oops :) Aug 17 17:41:22 ohh :p Aug 17 17:41:37 I hope it wasn't mine Aug 17 17:41:47 Nah my driver :) Aug 17 17:41:58 kidding I test my code on actual hardware Aug 17 17:42:16 Me too (well this code anyway) Aug 17 17:42:32 Yeah contributing to open source seems truly rewarding, especially when others comment on your code and share their ideas and opinions about it Aug 17 17:42:56 I think I am pretty weak when it comes to hardware Aug 17 17:43:17 I like it when someone takes my half finished job and does the rest of it for me :) Aug 17 17:43:20 Like I can understand code very quickly but when it comes to testing on hardware Aug 17 17:43:55 Chankya_vc all a question of experience! Aug 17 17:44:48 and a lot of lucky guesses :). Aug 17 17:44:54 Yeah I still have two years in college. So hopefully I will develop those skills in that time' Aug 17 17:46:08 nah. Don't expect college to teach much useful stuff. Old adage bit what it teaches you is how to learn! Aug 17 17:46:36 college gives you a foundation. doing stuff gets youthe rest Aug 17 17:47:18 Yup though once you get the learning bit sorted getting foundations in new stuff easy too! Aug 17 17:47:53 Though not typing coherent text on a phone. Aug 17 17:48:51 jic23, ds2, I feel that I only learn theoretical stuff over here. My profs are more concerned with giving what I feel is just bookish knowledge. Aug 17 17:49:16 Stuff that I can learn anyway by reading a book Aug 17 17:50:38 no good labs yet? Aug 17 17:50:46 Labs are there Aug 17 17:50:52 but good ones Aug 17 17:51:01 some are boring Aug 17 17:51:12 But obviously we don't do the kind of work that I do in GSOC there Aug 17 17:51:39 chanakya_vc: that will come in handy when you get reallyreally stuck fixing something later on Aug 17 17:53:04 guess ishould go back to debugging mcasp :( Aug 17 17:53:27 Ah I have just finished with two basic labs on electronics( where I saw an oscilloscope for the first time)..I have had a lab for control systems and electrical machines. Aug 17 17:54:01 Wormo, So not very intresting stuff I guess. I had physics and chem labs in my first year Aug 17 17:54:50 I was thinking more digital electronics stuff, so it might get better later... Aug 17 17:55:20 ds2 Yeah I guess theoretical stuff does help..' Aug 17 17:55:57 Wormo, Ah I have one for basic digital and basic computer architecture this sem Aug 17 17:56:22 those might be good Aug 17 17:56:36 I have already basic digital as a theoretical subject though Aug 17 17:56:43 I hope so. Aug 17 17:57:08 I am looking forward to the microwave engineering labs in my next semesters Aug 17 17:58:33 Anyway I will go sleep now I guess.. Aug 17 17:58:45 Bye Wormo ! Aug 17 18:04:57 * ZeekHuge - back **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 18 02:59:58 2016