**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 27 02:59:57 2019 Mar 27 06:48:54 jkridner : Done Mar 27 06:49:37 iamshankhadeep : I am here Mar 27 13:48:44 abhishek_: thanks Mar 27 13:53:36 abhishek_: can you please check your LinkedIn? Mar 27 13:53:39 I send you a mail regarding that. Mar 27 13:55:16 So what is it that you want to discuss about the idea? Mar 27 15:46:30 I won't be available later today for the meeting, but feel free to email me at abhishek AT theembeddedkitchen.net with your proposal/link to it and I will get back to you. Mar 27 15:48:33 abhishek_: actually before dropping idea I need to check that what do I really need to improve? If you can give me some ideas and links to the reference it will be helpful. Thanks Mar 27 16:03:53 hi, when will the meeting take place? Mar 27 16:18:23 10 minutes Mar 27 16:18:27 bbb.io/gsocmeet Mar 27 16:31:25 grrr.... riot.im is driving me nuts. Mar 27 16:31:37 gm all Mar 27 16:32:44 good morning all Mar 27 16:32:53 hello\ Mar 27 16:34:26 chi cwicks embden Mar 27 16:34:31 hi even Mar 27 16:34:41 let's ping some folks. Mar 27 16:34:46 Hello Mar 27 16:35:00 Hi Mar 27 16:35:45 pac23: nerdboy maciejjo av500 ds2 abhishek_ jm_donthineni ravikp7 zeekhuge any of you around? Mar 27 16:36:03 hi pranav_kumar guitarman0603 Mar 27 16:36:12 no proposals in yet! :-( Mar 27 16:36:17 Apologies to everyone that the web page https://beagleboard.org/gsoc indicates this meeting will start at 12 ET rather than the start time of 11:30 ET. We will get that fixed. Mean time we may have some folks join at 12 ET - thanks jkridner for pinging some of them. Mar 27 16:36:45 We have time till April 4th to submit the proposals. Mar 27 16:37:04 Right? Mar 27 16:37:48 sure, but don't we get to see drafts? Mar 27 16:37:57 * jkridner[m] also likes dravts on the elinux wiki. Mar 27 16:38:31 Alright. I'll send in my first draft by the end of the week. Mar 27 16:38:53 anyone here looking for a proposal review? Mar 27 16:39:15 jkridner: I added my idea to the idea list. Mar 27 16:39:58 cwicks: wouldn't be bad to get anyone on this channel to review the blog post. Mar 27 16:40:04 not sure the easiest way to share it. Mar 27 16:40:27 also, let me know if anyone is struggling with bbb.io/gsocmeet meeting.ics file. Mar 27 16:41:14 hi hendersa Mar 27 16:41:25 Morning jkridner[m] Mar 27 16:41:58 * jkridner[m] is seeing a log more activity around Freedombox/Freedombone if there are ideas around improving that. Mar 27 16:42:26 my thunderbird doesn't work good with the ics file. But I think it's a thunderbird's issue. It is good for google calendar. Mar 27 16:42:42 cwicks: the draft doesn't seem to be put into Wordpress. how do I edit? Mar 27 16:42:49 embden: thanks Mar 27 16:43:21 Hmmm... still no proposals yet. Mar 27 16:45:14 could you give me a link to some page related to proposals? Mar 27 16:45:48 embden: https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/ProposalTemplate Mar 27 16:46:06 embden: ultimately, submission via https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/dashboard/ Mar 27 16:46:28 * jkridner[m] realizes the dates are wrong on the proposal template timeline Mar 27 16:47:02 pratimugale: you here? Mar 27 16:47:12 thanks for providing https://elinux.org/GSoC2019_Proposal:PRU_UserSpace_API-PratimUgale Mar 27 16:47:54 pratimugale: would be good if you could update your proposal with milestones. Mar 27 16:48:43 also, please don't save analysis until the project time. Mar 27 16:49:40 there is an existing userspace API that should be updated to handle newer kernels as well as remoteproc. Mar 27 16:50:00 also, be sure to check out the PRUCookbook. Mar 27 16:50:14 Hello @jkridner:matrix.org good morning. Mar 27 16:50:39 jkridner: the proposed blog is now in draft in the wordpress Mar 27 16:50:42 hello all :) Mar 27 16:57:39 * cwicks[m] posted a file: BB Blog GSOC.docx (76KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/kwxROeGcIhSGRbFEvwbfzokp > Mar 27 16:58:25 Hi all - I'm putting out a blog about our GSoC 2019. Attached here. Any additions/edits you can think of? inputs greatly appreciated. Mar 27 16:59:52 I updated the template: https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2019ProposalTemplate Mar 27 17:00:55 @hendersa as during the last meetin u told me make the swift register for the gpio based bi-directional bus work i am working on that but i encountering an error as the swift register work fine when controlling from terminal but not in program can you asssist me on that. https://gist.github.com/pranav083/8e628c827818b7040770f55773eca389 Mar 27 17:01:48 all: please let me know if I missed labelling any new proposals with 2019 in them at https://elinux.org/Category:GSoCProposal Mar 27 17:03:35 also, feel free to use https://beaglebone.ai in your project prposal. Mar 27 17:03:38 er, http://beaglebone.ai Mar 27 17:06:11 fyi, we currently have 12 mentors signed-up, including me and cwicks , but not including Iain Hunter who needs to sign up on IRC. Mar 27 17:06:12 jkridner: is it possible to participate with beagleboard for previous years GSoC students (with another org)? Mar 27 17:06:50 embden: what do you mean by "previous years GSoC students" Mar 27 17:07:22 embden: you can pariticpate as a student with only one org per year. Mar 27 17:07:31 you can only be a student or a mentor, not both. Mar 27 17:07:41 I participated in 2017 with RTEMS. is it possible to participate this year with beagleboard? Mar 27 17:07:41 (for any given year) Mar 27 17:07:41 oh, sure. Mar 27 17:07:50 you don't have to stick with the same org.... Mar 27 17:08:02 and, you can submit proposals to multiple orgs (but can only accept one) Mar 27 17:08:14 because in a template there is a line: Previous GSoC participation: Provide list of URLs for previous participation or tell us why you want to participate here. No previous experience required. Mar 27 17:08:37 but, it is a double-edged sword based on not spending enough time to get the proposals into good shape. Mar 27 17:08:57 yes, it won't disqualify you... if you passed, it will help you quite a bit. Mar 27 17:10:10 Improving RTEMS support on BeagleBone/PocketBeagle or adding RTEMS support to BeagleBone AI would be of interest to me, but we'd want to see if we could attract a mentor from the RTEMS organization. Mar 27 17:10:25 I mean the line is a bit confusing. Mar 27 17:10:55 the line in the template: "No previous experience required." Mar 27 17:11:00 maybe it should say "and" instead of "or"? Mar 27 17:11:21 that just means to say that you don't need to have had GSoC experience in the past to qualify. Mar 27 17:11:27 should we drop that line? Mar 27 17:12:23 Oh, now I understand, I thought that it is required not to have the previous experience. But it means that it is not obligatory to have it. Mar 27 17:13:05 hendersa: are u here Mar 27 17:14:00 pranav_kumar[m]: I am here and looking at your code. Mar 27 17:14:19 I updated and remove that comment. Mar 27 17:14:35 embden: right Mar 27 17:14:43 i am just preparing the schematics to share with u in a while Mar 27 17:15:19 mentors: check out https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2019ProposalTemplate in case there are any additional mandatory milestones or items we should be including in the template. Mar 27 17:16:13 pranav_kumar[m]: Your gpio_fd_open() takes the GPIO number, but the gpio_fd_close() takes a file descriptor. Mar 27 17:16:17 as in recent years, we'll ultimately approve proposals in https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com, but I know I can personally review more proposals interactively on the wiki. Mar 27 17:17:12 vaishnav98_: please get a draft proposal! don't feel stuck to Makecode unless you are just really enjoying it. I think creating a streamlined proposal for Makecode could be a challenge as many requirements are "soft" based on UI experience. Mar 27 17:17:34 so it means that the file once open being able to close .Ok then i will try to change it Mar 27 17:17:42 vaishnav98_: if you want to do a good Makecode proposal, you need to get some users to file issues against what you've got to make good milestones. Mar 27 17:17:58 ravikp7: do you know what the latest on Etcher is? Mar 27 17:19:17 jkridner: haven't checked in a while, but, we got the module working cross platform Mar 27 17:20:10 and we need to switch back to the kernel ramdisk approach for mass storage Mar 27 17:20:37 jkridner: is it possible to have a timeline starting from April? Then it will make more sense. Mar 27 17:20:46 are Buildroot and beagle-tester useful projects for the community to advance? Would be great to unify with the BeagleBoot Electron app to do some kind of closed experience entirely from RAM, including the NETCONSOLE bits. Mar 27 17:21:57 I would expect the community to move more toward Yocto than Buildroot. Mar 27 17:22:09 Especially with the meta-ti layer available. Mar 27 17:22:22 embden: may people are setting pre-work milestones based on the bonding period. up to you how many items to include within the bonding period, but any things like API definition, etc. should be done at that phase to make sure other milestones are stable and not waiting on feedback from the community. Mar 27 17:22:34 hendersa: interesting. Mar 27 17:22:59 hendersa: maybe I could move beagle-tester to arago, but dang, the build setup is SOOOO much more complex. Mar 27 17:23:14 the small image flexibility is certainly there. Mar 27 17:23:31 hendersa: for GamePup, I was thinking about doing a Buildroot release that supported advmame. Mar 27 17:23:52 * jkridner[m] scratches head around Yocto. Mar 27 17:24:03 they probably have a good Docker image now for build setup. Mar 27 17:24:16 jkridner[m]: But can you get OpenGL ES support in Buildroot? The meta-ti layer can get SGX up and running, I believe. Mar 27 17:24:42 * jkridner[m] looks at https://hub.docker.com/r/gmacario/build-yocto/ Mar 27 17:24:59 * hendersa notes that GLES is important for even 2-D apps because it can scale the image to whatever the screen resolution is in hardware. Mar 27 17:25:18 hmmm... Mar 27 17:25:28 is it all setup for color-space conversion too? Mar 27 17:25:43 I haven't done YUV or any of that stuff with it. Mar 27 17:26:08 * jkridner[m] looks at https://e-ale.org/seminar/getting-started-with-yocto-project/ Mar 27 17:26:16 (which was done on PocketBeagle) Mar 27 17:26:59 I'll be going to Sweden in a few weeks to teach a course on Yocto, and we're using BBBs. Mar 27 17:27:22 It will just be with the default beaglebone support in the base Yocto meta layer, though, not meta-ti. Mar 27 17:27:56 Yocto is the direction that most suppliers go with their BSPs these days. Mar 27 17:30:48 maybe I'll try to setup an environment again. Mar 27 17:31:02 the leakage into host tools really angered me in the past. Mar 27 17:33:41 I dedicate an Ubuntu 16.04 VM to it. Mar 27 17:34:04 18.04 tends to conflict with some host tools installed with the main meta layer. Mar 27 17:34:13 grrrrrrrrrrr Mar 27 17:34:20 * jkridner[m] refuses Mar 27 17:34:27 * hendersa shrugs. Mar 27 17:34:33 jkridner: sounds like I should add this link to the blog? https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2019ProposalTemplate Mar 27 17:47:16 cwicks: I've made edits Mar 27 17:47:30 * jkridner[m] moves on to other tasks. Mar 27 19:52:18 https://bbb.io/@2207 Blog is pushed. retweet to your friends please! Mar 27 20:05:03 @hendersa i have uploaded everything on my github https://github.com/pranav083/pocket_beagle-work do you have any further suggestion on this so that i can procced further to write my proposal. Mar 27 20:46:10 jkridner : sure I'll get a draft proposal ready soon on the clickboard support under Greybus project, I'll continue with the Makecode project development in my free time and will try to get some users to test the project :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 28 02:59:57 2019