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May 13 07:18:02 <Abhishek[m]_> Vedant16, deepankarmaithani - How’re you both making progress?
May 13 07:29:51 <lorforlinux[m]> Update: Completed chapter 4, Reading chapter 5 of Exploring BeagleBone :)
May 13 08:22:20 <saketh-> lorforlinux[m]: can you share the link to the book here?
May 13 08:26:14 <lorforlinux[m]> You can download this and many other useful embedded Linux books from zLibrary, here is the link for Exploring BeagleBone https://b-ok.cc/book/3705579/88a952
May 13 08:35:02 <saketh-> thanks :D
May 13 10:08:54 <Abhishek[m]_> jkridner: jkridner : Submitted Hardware request for Vedant, doing that for Deepankar now. Sorry for the delay
May 13 10:14:34 <Abhishek[m]_> Done for Deepankar as well
May 13 10:28:21 <vedant16[m]> > Vedant16, deepankarmaithani - How’re you both making progress?
May 13 10:28:21 <vedant16[m]> I have finalised my decision, i will show it in todays meeting.
May 13 10:30:51 <vedant16[m]> > > Vedant16, deepankarmaithani - How’re you both making progress?
May 13 10:30:51 <vedant16[m]> > I have finalised my decision, i will show it in todays meeting.
May 13 10:30:51 <vedant16[m]> design*
May 13 13:16:09 <lorforlinux[m]> Project Update: Created a website for tracking project progress and for documentation, https://lorforlinux.github.io/GSoC2020_BeagleBoard.org/
May 13 15:37:45 <deepankarmaithan> <Abhishek[m]_ "Vedant16, deepankarmaithani - Ho"> For me i have gathered the basic hardware, breadboard, soldering iron ( to add those headers on the pocketbeagle), Resistances, capacitors ,  LEDs,shift registerIC pending.  I have setup crosscompiling toolchain with eclipse, remotefile acess, doxygen and  i am currently also exploring   TI tool chain for PRU. Further i  am yet to get a primary mentor and discuss
May 13 15:37:46 <deepankarmaithan> suitable changes and one on one project meet timings. I hope this could be done today.
May 13 16:22:34 <pratimugale[m]> Hi all
May 13 16:23:25 <deepankarmaithan> hello pratimugale
May 13 16:29:32 <nwan[m]> Hey guys
May 13 16:30:19 <indu> Hello all
May 13 16:30:24 * hendersa waves.
May 13 16:30:29 <hendersa> Hey students.
May 13 16:30:33 <henrix[m]> Hi all
May 13 16:30:38 <saketh-> Hey All!
May 13 16:30:40 <vedant16[m]> Hey all
May 13 16:30:49 <lorforlinux[m]> Hello everyone :)
May 13 16:31:29 <hendersa> Still waiting for cwicks[m] and jkridner[m] to say hello. Once they are here, we can get started.
May 13 16:31:41 <deepankarmaithan> hello all
May 13 16:32:19 <lorforlinux[m]> hendersa: Sure thing
May 13 16:32:29 <nwan[m]> henrix:  I found out where davinci and omap drivers went from kernel >4.14. They are now here: https://github.com/beagleboard/linux/tree/4.19-rt/sound/soc/ti
May 13 16:33:55 <jkridner> hi all.
May 13 16:34:01 <jkridner> cwicks[m]: ?
May 13 16:34:47 <jkridner> I'd like to have a bit of a working session today on shipping, plus we need to schedule the 1:1 sessions and make a clear primary mentor for deepankarmaithan.
May 13 16:35:16 <jkridner> great to see all 4 students here. Hi vedant16[m], lorforlinux[m], deepankarmaithan_ and nwan[m].
May 13 16:35:46 <jkridner> lorforlinux[m]: thanks for providing a link for project tracking.
May 13 16:35:48 <nwan[m]> jkridner: hello jason
May 13 16:36:10 <vedant16[m]> Hey, jkridner I had a meeting with my mentors on monday, based on that i decided a approach
May 13 16:36:14 <lorforlinux[m]> jkridner: Hi, I am sorry for missing the first meeting.
May 13 16:36:57 <jkridner> vedant16[m]: great!
May 13 16:37:06 <vedant16[m]> <jkridner "I'd like to have a bit of a work"> Till i receive hardware is there anyway to access other mentors beaglebone?
May 13 16:38:31 <Abhishek_> vedant16[m]: You’d like to access the PRUs?
May 13 16:38:42 <nwan[m]> jkridner: not sure you saw my project tracking site because i tagged your matrix irc account. So here it is again: https://niklaswan.github.io/GSoC-Overview/
May 13 16:39:12 <jkridner> vedant16[m]: I can put a board on a network for you if you need. I've been wondering about that and likely need a bit of help getting the setup so people can remotely trigger boards, etc.
May 13 16:39:20 <vedant16[m]> <Abhishek_ "vedant16: You’d like to access t"> Yes, i tried with pratim's beagle, but accessing ssh on beagle needs a static IP
May 13 16:39:34 <jkridner> static or known?
May 13 16:39:37 <vedant16[m]> <jkridner "vedant16: I can put a board on a"> Do you have a static IP?
May 13 16:39:43 <jkridner> I have a dynamic dns.
May 13 16:39:53 <Abhishek_> vedant16[m]: You probably need a relay.
May 13 16:39:59 <jkridner> The IP address only changes rarely.
May 13 16:40:22 <Abhishek_> Vedant: Because your router may not be forwarding SSH port
May 13 16:40:34 <vedant16[m]> <Abhishek_ "vedant16: You probably need a re"> That's a paid service
May 13 16:40:44 <pratimugale[m]> Can we do port forwarding, on android?
May 13 16:40:46 <ds2> if you have access to another box w/a static, you can tunnel there
May 13 16:40:52 <vedant16[m]> <Abhishek_ "Vedant: Because your router may "> Yup
May 13 16:41:07 <saketh-> or setup an openvpn tunnel?
May 13 16:41:07 <vedant16[m]> <jkridner "The IP address only changes rare"> Can you set port forwarding on your router
May 13 16:41:17 <Abhishek_> I have a hired Linode server, can set up one for you
May 13 16:41:30 <vedant16[m]> <ds2 "if you have access to another bo"> Any free tunnels?
May 13 16:41:30 <jkridner> for the 1:1 sessions, please align through primary mentor (primary mentor, please try to align with co-mentors)
May 13 16:41:55 <vedant16[m]> <Abhishek_ "I have a hired Linode server, ca"> It will be cool.
May 13 16:42:02 <jkridner> lorforlinux[m]: that'd be me for primary mentor. let's follow-up after the call to setup a separate 1:1 time.
May 13 16:42:03 <lorforlinux[m]> <jkridner "lorforlinux: thanks for providin"> pleasure is all mine, I am reading the Exploring BeagleBone book (completed 4 chapters) and wanted to start working on beagle-tester repository, please help me get started with it.
May 13 16:42:18 * jkridner is behind on actions from cwicks[m], like introductory e-mail.
May 13 16:42:32 <jkridner> vedant16[m]: for you, that is Abhishek_.
May 13 16:42:51 <jkridner> nwan[m]: for you that is rma31
May 13 16:42:52 <ds2> and intro video
May 13 16:42:55 <vedant16[m]> jkridner: What should be scope of the REPL, should it be wrt to bring beginners onboard? I mean implementing bytecode engine.
May 13 16:43:13 <vedant16[m]>  * jkridner: What should be scope of the REPL, should it be wrt to bring beginners onboard? I mean implementing bytecode engine. leaves very less RAM
May 13 16:43:18 <jkridner> ds2: thanks for bringing up the intro video that should be mentioned in the intro e-mail. :-D
May 13 16:43:24 <vedant16[m]> <jkridner "vedant16: for you, that is Abhis"> Cool !!
May 13 16:43:36 <Abhishek_> pratimugale[m]: Let me know a time when I can work with you to set up a relay for vedant16
May 13 16:43:38 <nwan[m]> jkridner: I also talked to rma31 for 1:1 meetings every thursday at 5:30pm starting June, 4
May 13 16:44:05 <deepankarmaithan> <vedant16[m] "Yes, i tried with pratim's beagl"> may be you can set up duckdns server and  there is a script that can help you get the new ip when it changes aeverytime
May 13 16:44:06 <jkridner> vedant16[m]: my ideal REPL would be botspeak, but a botspeak that assembles into actual PRU code rather than bytecode.
May 13 16:44:51 <jkridner> that's my ideal.... I care that it is something we can load on the PRUs as a nice example and allows people to interact with the PRUs in a sane way "It's Alive!"
May 13 16:45:11 <vedant16[m]> Hey hendersa Abhishek_ pratimugale I decided a approach, I would run a stripped down bytecode engine on PRU, then build a language over the bytecode, I will update all the implementation details before monday on elinux
May 13 16:45:25 <jkridner> nwan[m]: cool. check with rma31 that he invites all your co-mentors.
May 13 16:45:40 <deepankarmaithan> <jkridner "vedant16: I can put a board on a"> If you could please do that for me too. I have ordered a pocketbeagle  to start early but i am still wondering when will i get it.
May 13 16:45:55 <vedant16[m]> <jkridner "vedant16: my ideal REPL would be"> Ohk, so, rather than a interpreter language, a compiled language built on top of PRU C
May 13 16:46:08 <Abhishek_> vedant16[m]: You might want to check out WebAssembly and associated projects
May 13 16:46:28 <vedant16[m]> <deepankarmaithan "may be you can set up duckdns se"> even ngrok will work?
May 13 16:47:03 <saketh-> ngrok doesn't seem to work with ssh ports
May 13 16:47:04 <jkridner> vedant16[m]: k. I started on trying to do a legit bison/flex example, but, got distracted after about 3 hours. I have to teach myself again how to use those tools, but they would make something fast and flexible if you can figure them out.
May 13 16:47:07 <vedant16[m]> <Abhishek_ "vedant16: You might want to chec"> Alright, But how exactly can i implement it on PRU?
May 13 16:47:09 <nwan[m]> jkridner: I already sent a calendar invitation to my mentors last week but I didnt get a reply. But I'll get in touch with rma31
May 13 16:47:22 <jkridner> nwan[m]: thanks.
May 13 16:47:23 <Abhishek_> vedant16[m]: You could also think of “your language and compiler that compiles programs straight to PRU assembly and PRU machine code”
May 13 16:47:25 <vedant16[m]> Abhishek_: something like a webassembly engine on PRU?
May 13 16:47:55 <saketh-> vedant16[m]: oh sorry! it does
May 13 16:47:57 <deepankarmaithan> saketh-:   we should also  set up a time for 1:1 meeting
May 13 16:48:01 <Abhishek_> vedant16[m]: Again, it’s like implementing a VM or bytecode interpreter
May 13 16:48:21 <jkridner> Abhishek_: did I send you my bison/flex hack? Did you see the silly pruspeak REPL I started in cloud9-examples?
May 13 16:48:32 <vedant16[m]> <jkridner "vedant16: k. I started on trying"> I will check it out, any good tutorials for this?
May 13 16:48:51 <saketh-> deepankarmaithan: yes, your call, Abhishek_
May 13 16:48:56 <jkridner> Abhishek_: the botspeak instructions shouldn't be that hard to implement in direct assembly if you can setup a base environment.
May 13 16:48:57 <vedant16[m]> <Abhishek_ "vedant16: You could also think o"> Ok, I understand
May 13 16:49:13 <vedant16[m]> <saketh- "vedant16: oh sorry! it does"> TIL
May 13 16:49:13 <nwan[m]> jkridner: have you received the invitation via mail last wensday? I also sent it to your beagle mail
May 13 16:49:20 <Abhishek_> jkridner: I think I have seen it but not in detail. Will take a look again
May 13 16:49:23 <vedant16[m]> <Abhishek_ "vedant16: Again, it’s like imple"> On the PRU, right
May 13 16:49:38 <Abhishek_> vedant16[m]: yeah
May 13 16:49:43 <jkridner> deepankarmaithan: not sure how far in-the-know you are (or behind the times I am), but we've been trying to get saketh- setup to be your primary mentor....
May 13 16:50:02 <jkridner> saketh- is new to GSoC and I think we need to answer his doubts to get his commitment.
May 13 16:50:06 <saketh-> vedant16[m]: Same ;) it does a tcp forward
May 13 16:50:39 <vedant16[m]> Abhishek_: Okay, I will define my tasks for this week, 1. Lookup bison/flex 2. Lookup webassembly
May 13 16:50:50 <Abhishek_> vedant16- If you ask me, I don’t really want to build a state machine that runs on top of another state machine (the PRU itself)
May 13 16:51:18 <jkridner> saketh-: can you catch us up on your doubts and what you need to sign-up to mentor deepankarmaithan ?
May 13 16:51:45 * jkridner has honestly forgotten the project again. something PRU related.
May 13 16:51:59 <Abhishek_> PRU parallel bus
May 13 16:52:10 <saketh-> PRU Parallel bus
May 13 16:52:11 <saketh-> yes
May 13 16:52:15 <jkridner> lorforlinux[m] is working on Black/AI cape compatibility layers (dt overlays and userspace)
May 13 16:52:24 <jkridner> nwan[m] is working on Media IP Streaming
May 13 16:52:26 <ds2> Abhishek_: w/ or w/o a fpga angle?
May 13 16:52:40 <vedant16[m]> <Abhishek_ "vedant16- If you ask me, I don’t"> So, I will simply write wrapper functions which will directly call asm?
May 13 16:52:43 <jkridner> vedant16[m] is working on modernizing Beagle PRU support (REPL and base library/docs)
May 13 16:52:45 <saketh-> ds2: we are to talk about it
May 13 16:53:01 <deepankarmaithan> saketh-:  jkridner  https://deebot.github.io/GSOC-2020.html
May 13 16:53:08 <deepankarmaithan> Here is my progress page
May 13 16:53:27 <lorforlinux[m]> <jkridner "lorforlinux is working on Black/"> Affirmative
May 13 16:53:37 <jkridner> deepankarmaithan: love the small steps.
May 13 16:54:13 <jkridner> saketh- deepankarmaithan: is there comprehension of exposing the bus generated in the Linux kernel?
May 13 16:54:26 <Abhishek_> vedant16[m]: No, you’d transform your language to PRU binary code directly or assembly code and the resultant code executes on the PRU
May 13 16:54:35 <jkridner> for me, presenting the bus in the kernel is a lot of what makes that concept interesting.
May 13 16:54:47 <saketh-> jkridner: that was a question that came up in my discussion with deepankar
May 13 16:54:50 <deepankarmaithan> <jkridner "deepankarmaithani: not sure how "> I just had a conversation with him over call short while ago and i discussed my doubts  and more about project.
May 13 16:55:00 <jkridner> saketh-: again, what doubts to you have to commit to be the primary mentor?
May 13 16:55:13 <deepankarmaithan> <jkridner "deepankarmaithani: love the smal"> Thanks
May 13 16:55:39 <saketh-> jkridner: what exactly does this mean "presenting the bus in the kernel"
May 13 16:56:01 <saketh-> that's the one of the last doubts I have to commit myself as a primary mentor
May 13 16:56:14 <ds2> saketh-: visibile to the kernel like USB, I2C, SPI, etc
May 13 16:56:50 <jkridner> exactly what ds2 said. scope is someone fungible.
May 13 16:57:09 <jkridner> i2c, spi have userspace interfaces (though spidev has been deprecated it seems).
May 13 16:57:25 <jkridner> usb shows up based on classes.
May 13 16:57:27 <pratimugale[m]> Abhishek_ vedant16 I am free tomorrow afternoon/evening for the setup
May 13 16:57:29 <ds2> saketh-: it can be somewhat big so prehaps a subset with a bigger roadmap for that
May 13 16:57:42 <ds2>  /proc/bus/prubus?
May 13 16:58:10 <Abhishek_> Which subsystem to map it to? GPIO? IIO?
May 13 16:58:26 <jkridner> ds2: would a generic character or block driver make sense?
May 13 16:58:27 <saketh-> GPIO /
May 13 16:59:01 <jkridner> hmmm.....  I can see a gpiochip making some sense.
May 13 16:59:08 <ds2> jkridner: it can but current tends may not make that favorable... can result in being burnt to a crisp on lkml
May 13 16:59:11 <saketh-> wouldn't GPIO would be achievable
May 13 16:59:16 <jkridner> I think you can do parallel stuff with gpiochip.
May 13 16:59:16 <Abhishek_> deepankarmaithan: Do you have experience with FPGAs?
May 13 16:59:55 <ds2> Abhishek_: I'd argue, it should be a peer/ortoganol to them
May 13 17:00:09 <deepankarmaithan> I have worked a little but that is too little to say yes
May 13 17:00:09 <jkridner> what would systems like Machinekit or other ones that might use FPGAs find most useful?
May 13 17:00:19 <ds2> i.e. a 7400's latch sitting on the bus can register GPIOs
May 13 17:00:27 <Abhishek_> jkridner: BeagleLogic :)
May 13 17:00:40 <saketh-> +1
May 13 17:00:54 <jkridner> yeah, that too, but it would be a slower BeagleLogic, no?
May 13 17:01:11 <saketh-> this is from pranavs work, https://github.com/pranav083/pocket_beagle-work/blob/wip/6.shift_74hc299_bi/v2/shift_74hc299bi_bbbv2_bb.png
May 13 17:01:45 <ds2> in someways this is almost like a very very slow PCIe
May 13 17:01:48 <deepankarmaithan> saketh-:  thanks for bringing it up
May 13 17:01:54 <saketh-> during my discussion with deepankarmaithan he cited this a expressed some questions about the functional implementation. would you like to ask them here
May 13 17:01:55 <saketh-> yeah
May 13 17:02:01 <jkridner> saketh-: do you feel you can work out the Linux requirements with Abhishek_ and ds2?
May 13 17:02:09 <ds2> or unbelieveably slow USB3 (USB 10^-3?) :D
May 13 17:02:14 <Abhishek_> jkridner: It could enable things like more channels vs samplerate tradeoff, RLE compression (not possible right now)
May 13 17:02:19 <deepankarmaithan> saketh-: yeswe need to resolve this confusion
May 13 17:02:53 <saketh-> jkridner: in a meeting, yes.
May 13 17:03:36 <jkridner> saketh-: k, then unless you scream loud enough for me to hear that it isn't working out, I'm moving ahead with the assumption you are deepankarmaithan's primary mentor.
May 13 17:03:42 <Abhishek_> saketh-: We can try to work this out today after the logistics are sorted out, or fix a time when we can meet
May 13 17:03:51 <jkridner> ....so.... I'd like to have a working session on shipping....
May 13 17:04:08 <jkridner> nwan[m]: I thought your shipping requirements would be the easiest with you in Germany right now....
May 13 17:04:12 <jkridner> ....but, I got stuck.
May 13 17:04:15 <vedant16[m]> <pratimugale[m] "Abhishek_ vedant16 I am free tom"> Ok cool.
May 13 17:04:23 <saketh-> jkridner: I'm agreeing to be a lead on the project
May 13 17:04:27 <ds2> saketh-: today could work
May 13 17:04:37 <deepankarmaithan> <Abhishek_ "saketh-: We can try to work this"> Abhishek_:  I have yet not secured the Universal shift registers. Can you arrange for them
May 13 17:04:40 <jkridner> based on what nwan[m] needs, I thought ordering through Farnell would be the easiest.
May 13 17:04:42 <saketh-> ds2: after this meeting?
May 13 17:04:42 <vedant16[m]> Sorry my net went out
May 13 17:04:55 <ds2> saketh-: 'k
May 13 17:05:10 <saketh-> Abhishek_: would that work?
May 13 17:05:15 * jkridner laments being on a different computer than where he started to place hardware orders.
May 13 17:05:40 <vedant16[m]> Abhishek_: I mean, if i write turn_on(PIN_3) in the lang, It will get converted to it's corresponding assembly
May 13 17:05:51 <ds2> jkridner: you could ssh in and us x11vnc and....
May 13 17:05:59 <Abhishek_> saketh-: I won’t stay online until much longer, definitely not after 11 or so
May 13 17:06:22 <vedant16[m]> jkridner: Please suggest some good resources to learn bison/flex
May 13 17:06:52 <Abhishek_> vedant16[m]: Correct, so it translates to something like SET R30.3
May 13 17:07:16 <vedant16[m]> Yes
May 13 17:07:18 <ds2> vedan16[m]: they are mostly GNU versions of yacc and lex
May 13 17:07:23 <saketh-> jkridner: will do scream when things start going south
May 13 17:07:32 <deepankarmaithan> saketh-:We also need to sort out  about  getting shift register and  logic analyser.
May 13 17:07:41 <vedant16[m]> <Abhishek_ "vedant16: Correct, so it transla"> something like macro would do
May 13 17:07:43 <jkridner> nwan[m]: the de.farnell.com site seemed to require me to have some kind of government registration number. mein Deutsch ist schlecht
May 13 17:07:51 <vedant16[m]> <ds2 "vedan16[m]: they are mostly GNU "> Ok
May 13 17:07:53 <ds2> saketh-: feel free to ping me... I have an erratic schedule but will help as much as I can
May 13 17:08:10 <Abhishek_> saketh-: I’ll be around too
May 13 17:08:21 <jkridner> nwan[m]: who do you typically order electronics from?
May 13 17:08:27 <saketh-> Abhishek_, ds2: any thoughts on how to go about logic analyser?
May 13 17:08:59 <saketh-> ds2, Abhishek_ : okay!
May 13 17:09:03 <henrix[m]> <jkridner "nwan: who do you typically order"> Mouser
May 13 17:09:14 <deepankarmaithan> <jkridner "nwan: who do you typically order"> https://www.reichelt.com/de/en/?r=1  may be this
May 13 17:09:17 <ds2> saketh-: a few ways - BeagleLogic would be nice but shipping is an unknown....another path is the saelig clones again shipping
May 13 17:09:52 <Abhishek_> I’ve put in 2 Beagles for Deepankar, so he can use 1 as BeagleLogic
May 13 17:09:58 <jkridner> henrix[m]: k, let me try now.
May 13 17:10:03 <Abhishek_> When he gets it
May 13 17:10:08 <vedant16[m]> Till when would we receive beagle in India?
May 13 17:10:39 <ds2> Abhishek_: do you think shipping will work out?
May 13 17:11:04 <Abhishek_> ds2: Fedex seems to be working during these times
May 13 17:11:24 <Abhishek_> Not sure about other carriers
May 13 17:11:31 <saketh-> I've seen Fedex flights moving in and out of Bombay on the flightradar
May 13 17:11:36 <ds2> Abhishek_: what about the warehouses? are they open?
May 13 17:11:54 <jkridner> it is unfortunate that Mouser overpaid to have BeagleBone AI's shipped to US and paid a bunch of taxes on them that they didn't need to.
May 13 17:11:55 <saketh-> Amazon seems to be delivering to places that aren't containment zones
May 13 17:11:58 <ds2> or are we talking about FEDEX via US and just bite the bullet on shipping charges/customs?
May 13 17:12:01 <vedant16[m]> https://robu.in/?category=&s=beaglebone&search_posttype=product
May 13 17:12:13 <jkridner> BeagleBone AI's should be equivalent to US$99 in EU.
May 13 17:12:15 <vedant16[m]> these site is open in India, sells beaglebone
May 13 17:12:22 <saketh-> https://robu.in/product/pocketbeagle-board/
May 13 17:12:42 <pratimugale[m]> I got a message from Robu saying they are delivering
May 13 17:12:42 <deepankarmaithan> <Abhishek_ "I’ve put in 2 Beagles for Deepan"> thanks
May 13 17:12:50 <jkridner> Not 122,38 € :'(
May 13 17:13:15 <jkridner> ugh... and they don't have the fan cape.
May 13 17:13:29 <henrix[m]> hmm
May 13 17:13:34 <deepankarmaithan> saketh-: thanks alot. In order to get the shift register IC  I have been trying to get hold of the guy who worked on this project lst time his college is near my house. But the problem is his lab is closed due to corona. I will try to push him. but we must think of an alternative
May 13 17:13:35 <jkridner> nwan[m]: do you think you can get one of the recommended USB fans?
May 13 17:13:56 <ds2> saketh-: are you setting it up as a BBB project or a AI project? both have PRUs
May 13 17:14:38 <saketh-> ds2: BBB project
May 13 17:16:22 <Abhishek_> deepankarmaithan: Also try some alternate shift register ICs
May 13 17:16:36 <Abhishek_> Like 74HC4094 (o/p only)
May 13 17:16:47 <ds2> or if you have a FPGA (i.e. the ice40's), make a shift register :D
May 13 17:16:47 <Abhishek_> Or 74HC164
May 13 17:17:11 <ds2> HCT versions of it can work too
May 13 17:17:41 <deepankarmaithan> <Abhishek_ "Like 74HC4094 (o/p only)"> ok
May 13 17:17:45 <deepankarmaithan> <ds2 "or if you have a FPGA (i.e. the "> lol 🙂
May 13 17:17:53 <henrix[m]> <jkridner "nwan: do you think you can get o"> rma seems to have connection problems in this IRC channel. I will ask him. He probably knows some retailers.
May 13 17:17:58 <vedant16[m]> Abhishek_: which beagle am i getting?
May 13 17:17:58 <ds2> almost any 74xxxNNN can work - the NNN part defines functionality... the xxx part defines things like voltage levels
May 13 17:18:21 <jkridner> rma31: k, I'm in the checkout for Mouser....
May 13 17:18:35 <Abhishek_> ds2: Think I can send deepankarmaithan a TinyFPGA BX if he’d be interested in trying some Verilog out.
May 13 17:18:48 <saketh-> I can help with verilog
May 13 17:18:56 <saketh-> if that happens
May 13 17:19:14 <lorforlinux[m]> Another option is 74hc595 https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74hc595.pdf
May 13 17:19:40 <Abhishek_> Once I am back in Bangalore
May 13 17:19:54 <Abhishek_> lorforlinux[m]: Yes
May 13 17:21:21 <jkridner> nwan[m]: Mouser 18976299 (cc rma31 henrix[m] indu)
May 13 17:21:50 <deepankarmaithan> <lorforlinux[m] "Another option is 74hc595 https:"> This is only SIPO
May 13 17:22:01 <deepankarmaithan> <Abhishek_ "ds2: Think I can send deepankarm"> why not
May 13 17:22:03 <jkridner> deepankarmaithan lorforlinux[m] vedant16[m]: do you each need delivery in India right now?
May 13 17:22:33 <deepankarmaithan> <jkridner "deepankarmaithani lorforlinux ve"> yes
May 13 17:22:50 <lorforlinux[m]> <jkridner "deepankarmaithani lorforlinux ve"> yes
May 13 17:23:02 <vedant16[m]> <deepankarmaithan "yes"> yes, as early as possible
May 13 17:23:12 <jkridner> what was the consensus on the best place to order?
May 13 17:23:15 <deepankarmaithan> <jkridner "deepankarmaithani lorforlinux ve"> I think it will reach me before 9 June. I will be trying to fly back to germany on 10th
May 13 17:23:42 <jkridner> deepankarmaithan: will you have anyone to forward it to you if it doesn't arrive on time?
May 13 17:23:44 <Abhishek_> vedant16[m]: You’ll be getting a PocketBeagle, PocketBeagle TechLab Cape and a BeagleBone Green Gateway
May 13 17:23:54 <Abhishek_> Same for deepankarmaithan
May 13 17:23:58 <jkridner> logistics right now are even more complex than normal.
May 13 17:24:08 <saketh-> Abhishek_: thanks for filling up the form
May 13 17:24:13 <vedant16[m]> <Abhishek_ "vedant16: You’ll be getting a Po"> Cool !
May 13 17:24:14 <jkridner> deepankarmaithan: would it be safe to send to Germany ahead of you?
May 13 17:24:37 <jkridner> doh! I forgot to put the PB+TL for nwan[m]
May 13 17:24:57 <jkridner> Abhishek_: is the Green Gateway in stock anywhere yet?
May 13 17:25:20 <Abhishek_> jkridner: Just heard news of launch
May 13 17:25:41 <jkridner> the one downside is USB-based Ethernet.
May 13 17:25:41 <deepankarmaithan> <jkridner "deepankarmaithani: would it be s"> I have my friend who can recieve it there but  the question is if i will be able to go back or not .  It seems Germany is in no hurry to start allowing non EU residents . My flight might cancel
May 13 17:25:52 <jkridner> other than that, it should be a really nice board.
May 13 17:26:54 <jkridner> hmmm... shows pre-order: https://www.seeedstudio.com/SeeedStudio-BeagleBone-Green-Gateway-p-4586.html
May 13 17:27:07 <saketh-> oops!
May 13 17:27:34 <deepankarmaithan> <jkridner "deepankarmaithani: will you have"> I will have to think for it. In the worst case senario i will buy on my own if it doesnot arrive.
May 13 17:28:22 <jkridner> Abhishek_: can you get shipment from Seeed easily?
May 13 17:28:33 <jkridner> They have PB, but I don't think they stock TL.
May 13 17:29:03 <Abhishek_> jkridner: If they ship via Fedex it may work
May 13 17:29:28 <jkridner> hmmm... OK, someone please tell me who to try.
May 13 17:33:35 <deepankarmaithan> saketh-:  i think i will go tommorow to my local radio store and get the 74hc595. It should be easily available. So that we have something to get started
May 13 17:33:35 <vedant16[m]> https://in.element14.com/seeed-studio/102010027/beaglebone-green/dp/2801867
May 13 17:33:36 <vedant16[m]> there is beaglebone green on element14
May 13 17:33:38 <deepankarmaithan> saketh-:  do you have some stores near you
May 13 17:34:11 <saketh-> I basically live outside the city limits! :( shall try with my folks in the limits
May 13 17:34:17 <jkridner> Abhishek_: if Green Gateway isn't yet available, can you recommend an alternative?
May 13 17:34:39 <jkridner> Green != Green Gateway != Green Wireless
May 13 17:35:08 <jkridner> Green = Ethernet, Wireless = WiFi, Gateway = Ethernet + WiFi
May 13 17:35:26 <vedant16[m]> ohh, TIL
May 13 17:37:03 * jkridner wonders why E14 doesn't have TechLab
May 13 17:37:39 <ds2> it is E14 afterall :D
May 13 17:37:50 <Abhishek_> jkridner: No preference, whichever works for vedant16[m] or deepankarmaithan : Maybe wireless version?
May 13 17:37:55 <ds2> maybe it is under a different name ;)
May 13 17:38:08 <jkridner> Abhishek_: based on entries, I guess you want Green Wireless, but I really hate how they put Wireless interface pins on the header.
May 13 17:38:30 <jkridner> if you want wifi, I'd prefer Black Wireless.
May 13 17:38:40 <vedant16[m]> <Abhishek_ "jkridner: No preference, whichev"> Wireless, yes. Ethernet won't work for me.
May 13 17:38:40 <jkridner> very compatible with Black.
May 13 17:38:46 <jkridner> vedant16[m]: k.
May 13 17:39:05 <Abhishek_> jkridner[m]: Okay, BBBW then
May 13 17:39:14 <Abhishek_> jkridner: ^
May 13 17:42:18 <jkridner> vedant16[m]: Mouser is asking for an "Import Export Code (IEC)"
May 13 17:42:27 <jkridner> I don't know what that is.
May 13 17:42:29 <deepankarmaithan> <Abhishek_ "jkridner: No preference, whichev"> for me too wireless will be prefered.
May 13 17:42:47 <Abhishek_> jkridner: Can you leave it blank?
May 13 17:42:53 <jkridner> vedant16[m]: the end of your C/O name is being cut off. I hope that is OK.
May 13 17:42:57 <jkridner> Abhishek_: it is required.
May 13 17:43:27 <vedant16[m]> <jkridner "vedant16: the end of your C/O na"> No, cut the middle name instead
May 13 17:43:46 <vedant16[m]> Wait i will resend.
May 13 17:44:44 <jkridner> also, Mouser doesn't seem to provide a mechanism to ship duties paid.
May 13 17:44:53 <vedant16[m]> jkridner: I have PMed you the C/O
May 13 17:45:02 <jkridner> vedant16[m]: k
May 13 17:46:14 <Abhishek_> jkridner: if duty paid option isn’t present, recepient will end up paying 40% of invoice value as duty
May 13 17:47:22 <jkridner> Abhishek_: :-(
May 13 17:47:37 <jkridner> no easy way for me to fix that.
May 13 17:47:49 <jkridner> the TI office isn't taking shipments last I checked.
May 13 17:47:56 <jkridner> was going to ship there and try to ship out again.
May 13 17:48:03 <jkridner> cwicks[m]: any ideas?
May 13 17:48:16 <Abhishek_> jkridner: Also IEC code requires some legal atuff
May 13 17:48:21 <Abhishek_> *stuff
May 13 17:48:21 <jkridner> cwicks[m]: any ideas how to ship hardware to India and not have students pay?
May 13 17:48:40 <jkridner> k, trying Digikey.
May 13 17:49:49 <Abhishek_> jkridner: I wonder if the payment gateways on the Indian sites would accept an International Credit card?
May 13 17:50:09 <ds2> jkridner: is reflecting of TI.in not an option this year?
May 13 17:50:15 <Abhishek_> That’d probably work out the cheapest
May 13 17:52:12 <deepankarmaithan> <Abhishek_ "jkridner: I wonder if the paymen"> alot of them use amazon pay  i think you can add money to amazon pay using your internation card. I am not sure
May 13 17:52:48 <Abhishek_> deepankarmaithan: If they have PayPal jkridner could reach out and try to arrange something
May 13 17:54:26 <deepankarmaithan> jkridner: jkridner  Abhishek_  https://www.fabtolab.com/    they showw payment in euro and doller
May 13 17:55:12 <deepankarmaithan> on the top one can select currency
May 13 17:55:27 <Abhishek_> Must leave now
May 13 17:56:00 <Abhishek_> Will catch up with logs tomorrow morning
May 13 17:56:26 <Abhishek_> 10pm meeting gets really late for me. Wish it were earlier in the night
May 13 17:56:34 <vedant16[m]> <Abhishek_ "deepankarmaithani: If they have "> Paypal supports rupay, we can signup for it.
May 13 17:57:18 <Abhishek_> RuPay probably won’t help him
May 13 18:03:20 <vedant16[m]> ok
May 13 18:04:53 <cwicks[m]> I have not had success to have a shipment arrive in India without someone trying to request a tax.
May 13 18:05:28 <cwicks[m]> Digikey has been the most successful in the past I believe.
May 13 18:06:10 <cwicks[m]> You can tell digikey that you want duties to be paid by the shipper.
May 13 18:53:15 <jkridner> vedant16[m]: Digikey  web order 309448073
May 13 18:53:26 <jkridner> the TechLab cape is on backorder.
May 13 18:53:45 <jkridner> I used the BeagleBoard.org Foundation FedEx shipping account, so hopefully we get billed for the duties.
May 13 18:54:02 <jkridner> If not, I will need to try to reimburse you.
May 13 18:54:34 <jkridner> cwicks[m]: they did not have a duties paid option, but did have a shipper account option.
May 13 19:15:41 <vedant16[m]> <jkridner "vedant16: Digikey  web order 309"> How do i use this to track the order?
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