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Apr 12 05:32:11 <DhruvaGole[m]> cwicks:  I have started working on a proposal for Bela a bit late and may need to add a few things in the coming week or so, but I'm afraid the deadlline is just a day away.
Apr 12 05:32:12 <DhruvaGole[m]> Does the org consider changes in the proposal after the GSoC proposal deadline has passed?
Apr 12 07:18:47 <jduchniewicz> Dhruva Gole:  what kind of collab?
Apr 12 07:20:51 <DhruvaGole[m]> <jduchniewicz "Dhruva Gole:  what kind of colla"> Sharing information probably with each other regarding bela implementation , since time is ticking so fast
Apr 12 07:21:01 <DhruvaGole[m]> * Sharing information probably with each other regarding bela implementation , since time is very limited
Apr 12 07:21:57 <jduchniewicz> sure, why not
Apr 12 07:22:13 <YadnikBendale[m]> <lpillsbury[m] "to confirm, deadline is 11am Tue"> I think on the GSoC website the submission time  gets converted to your timezone.In India it is 23.30 or 11.30 PM.
Apr 12 07:22:22 <YadnikBendale[m]> > <@lpillsbury:beagleboard.org> to confirm, deadline is 11am Tuesday? (what timezone?)
Apr 12 07:22:22 <YadnikBendale[m]>  * I think on the GSoC website the submission time  gets converted to your timezone. In India it is 23.30 or 11.30 PM.
Apr 12 07:22:58 <YadnikBendale[m]> lpillsbury: They also have a timer ticking from where you can incur.
Apr 12 07:23:06 <DhruvaGole[m]> yes
Apr 12 07:23:14 <lpillsbury[m]> cool that makes sense then since I'm 12.5 hours behind you
Apr 12 11:03:41 <jduchniewicz> giuliomoro:  could you look at the draft? https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021_Proposal/ALSA_plugin_for_BELA
Apr 12 11:03:54 <jduchniewicz> some things are clearer but still require more discussion (marked with TODOs)
Apr 12 11:05:41 <jduchniewicz> also can some other mentor than ds2  look at my GPGPU proposal? https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021_Proposal/GPGPU_with_GLES
Apr 12 11:28:51 * DhruvaGole[m] uploaded an image: (37KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/crhvjtUjHJabzrtdbZpuTnAg/image.png >
Apr 12 11:29:02 <DhruvaGole[m]> jduchniewicz:  were you planning to add some link and you've forgotten?
Apr 12 11:29:22 <DhruvaGole[m]> pointing to The square brackets ...
Apr 12 11:30:06 <StevenSchrstedt[> is the beagleboard website down?
Apr 12 11:30:32 <DhruvaGole[m]> yep, seems to be down...
Apr 12 11:33:52 <jduchniewicz> no, but thanks for pointing out
Apr 12 11:44:14 <DhruvaGole[m]> giuliomoro: why not provide examples for newcomers ?
Apr 12 11:58:35 <DhruvaGole[m]> one doubt:
Apr 12 11:58:35 <DhruvaGole[m]> GSoC: GSoC entry
Apr 12 11:58:35 <DhruvaGole[m]> here which link should be pasted??
Apr 12 12:43:11 <YadnikBendale[m]> <jkridner[m] "Yeah, but you’ll need to think a"> jkridner: Can you please elaborate on this point.
Apr 12 13:43:03 <StevenSchrstedt[> ds2: there were no questions from my end, so you didnt hear from me. But I still worked on the project and am really motivated to do it. I updated my proposal and included more information. maybe you can have one more look :) also more feedback would be nice of some other mentors :) https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021ProposalGPGPU
Apr 12 13:45:28 <StevenSchrstedt[> ds2: in the documentation of OpenGL ES 2.0 texture can only support RGBA4 (so 4 bits per channel) but in the datasheet for the SGX530 says RGBA8 (8 bits per channel) are supported. I couldnt find datasheets for SGX 550 or 544. I dont even know if the datasheet I found is very reliable (https://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/download.php?id=6c886c36e3a90df88cee468a5c19b37dc44774&type=P&term=PowerVR%2520SGX530) do
Apr 12 13:45:28 <StevenSchrstedt[> you know where to find more information about the SGX GPU?
Apr 12 13:51:27 <DhruvaGole[m]> giuliomoro:  You mentioned
Apr 12 13:51:27 <DhruvaGole[m]> > Also, there will be need for changes in the Makefile
Apr 12 13:51:27 <DhruvaGole[m]> Which makefile were you referring to?
Apr 12 13:57:27 <DhruvaGole[m]>  * giuliomoro:  You mentioned
Apr 12 13:57:27 <DhruvaGole[m]> > Also, there will be need for changes in the Makefile
Apr 12 13:57:27 <DhruvaGole[m]> Which makefile were you referring to?
Apr 12 13:57:36 <DhruvaGole[m]>  * giuliomoro:  You mentioned
Apr 12 13:57:36 <DhruvaGole[m]> > Also, there will be need for changes in the Makefile
Apr 12 13:57:36 <DhruvaGole[m]> Here, Which makefile were you referring to?
Apr 12 13:58:02 <DhruvaGole[m]>  * giuliomoro:  Which makefile were you referring to?
Apr 12 13:58:02 <DhruvaGole[m]> > Also, there will be need for changes in the Makefile
Apr 12 14:00:57 <DhruvaGole[m]> you meant the one while compiling via the clpru?
Apr 12 15:29:17 <Willmish[m]> jkridner: Hi Im working for a proposal for the MicroPython port and should have a draft to share rather soon. I saw some mentions before about also implementing CircuitPython, would that be something I should also consider in my proposal?
Apr 12 16:04:49 <jduchniewicz> giuliomoro:  thanks for the email, corrected the proposal :) Here it is for anyone interested https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021_Proposal/ALSA_plugin_for_BELA
Apr 12 16:04:50 <jduchniewicz> I would like other mentors to take  a look at it
Apr 12 16:05:24 <jduchniewicz> maybe Abhishek  or lorforlinux you could take a look 🙂? Also the proposal for GPGPU needs some review from additional mentors https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021_Proposal/GPGPU_with_GLES
Apr 12 16:34:41 <vedant16[m]> All the students, only 24hrs are left for deadline, even if you proposal is incomplete, upload the pdf ASAP. You can edit it later, but if you have some issues in the next 24hrs and fail to submit the pdf, we can't consider the proposal.
Apr 12 16:34:54 <vedant16[m]> So, don't make this mistake.
Apr 12 16:36:03 <StevenSchrstedt[> should we just convert the elinux page to a pdf?
Apr 12 16:52:55 <ds2> jduchniewicz: if you can't get another reviewer before the deadline, just make sure the latest is uploaded
Apr 12 16:54:00 <DhruvaGole[m]> <StevenSchrstedt[ "should we just convert the elinu"> yes, there is an option "printable version"
Apr 12 16:54:22 <lorforlinux[m]> <StevenSchrstedt[ "should we just convert the elinu"> That would be fine I guess :)
Apr 12 16:54:54 <lorforlinux[m]> *Looking for all the hanging questions now
Apr 12 16:56:07 * lorforlinux[m] posted a file: (702KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/KbZIxpHyFSrfrkGyfpGRUeUP/BeagleBoard_GSoC_2020Proposal_DeepakKhatri.pdf >
Apr 12 16:56:22 <lorforlinux[m]> My last year proposal ^
Apr 12 16:56:48 <DhruvaGole[m]> <lorforlinux[m] "*Looking for all the hanging que"> hey I was just kinda insecure because recently Jason kridner assigned to himself on github to bring librobotcontrol support to the BBAI, and that is exactly what my proposal aims to do..
Apr 12 16:56:53 <cwicks[m]> Good morning / evening students and mentors
Apr 12 16:57:19 <lorforlinux[m]> Good evening cwicks
Apr 12 16:57:21 <DhruvaGole[m]> > <@dhruvag2000:matrix.org> cwicks:  I have started working on a proposal for Bela a bit late and may need to add a few things in the coming week or so, but I'm afraid the deadlline is just a day away.
Apr 12 16:57:21 <DhruvaGole[m]> > Does the org consider changes in the proposal after the GSoC proposal deadline has passed?
Apr 12 16:57:21 <DhruvaGole[m]> cwicks:  please do let me know :)
Apr 12 16:57:41 <satacker[m]> Good Evening
Apr 12 16:59:12 <cwicks[m]> Dhruva Gole:  Please get the proposal to a satisfactory level with giuliomoro for the submission.  Tweeks after the submission (usually it is the milestones that have to be altered a bit) are not uncommon, but we need the proposal to be robust so that Google will appreciate the level of work / detail when they evaluate.
Apr 12 16:59:52 <cwicks[m]> Okay how is everyone doing?  If you have your proposal in "final" at the GSOC site already and you want to make changes to it - is there a way to do that?
Apr 12 17:00:19 <cwicks[m]> Hello lorforlinux thank you to you and the others in India timezone - you are very much appreciated.
Apr 12 17:00:24 <DhruvaGole[m]> <cwicks[m] "Dhruva Gole:  Please get the pro"> yes, definitely I will try my best to bring the proposal to a decent level. Please can you check it for me here?
Apr 12 17:00:37 <ArchismanDey[m]> <cwicks[m] "Okay how is everyone doing?  If "> Yes, we can do that before the deadline
Apr 12 17:00:44 <lorforlinux[m]> > <@dhruvag2000:matrix.org> hey I was just kinda insecure because recently Jason kridner assigned to himself on github to bring librobotcontrol support to the BBAI, and that is exactly what my proposal aims to do..
Apr 12 17:00:44 <lorforlinux[m]> > So is there a chance that Jason will completely disregard my proposal since he himself is doing the task
Apr 12 17:00:44 <lorforlinux[m]> Nope, don't take it that way. Keep contributing from your side, we will review your proposal on the basis of your involvement here and understanding of the project. Good PRs are always welcome :)
Apr 12 17:00:54 <ds2> cwicks[m]: jduchniewicz is having problems getting a 2nd review on his proposal
Apr 12 17:01:04 <DhruvaGole[m]> <cwicks[m] "Okay how is everyone doing?  If "> yes I myself have reuploaded final PDF after 5-6 revisions upto now
Apr 12 17:01:39 <cwicks[m]> thanks ds2 I'll ping some mentors to get reviewing asap today
Apr 12 17:02:57 <lorforlinux[m]> <jduchniewicz "maybe Abhishek  or lorforlinux y"> on it!
Apr 12 17:03:46 <ds2> StevenSchrstedt[: did you see my responses?
Apr 12 17:08:26 <Abhishek[m]_> jduchniewicz: The Bela proposal looks good to me on a high level read. Don’t have any specific comments yet.
Apr 12 17:09:17 <ArchismanDey[m]> Abhishek: Reply to my comments on the google doc when you have time :)
Apr 12 17:10:11 <Abhishek[m]_> I’ve seen your comments from yesterday, did you add anything more?
Apr 12 17:10:30 <ArchismanDey[m]> No, didn't add anything more, but I asked some questions there
Apr 12 17:10:50 <Abhishek[m]_> Okay, will answer them when I am at my laptop next
Apr 12 17:10:55 <ArchismanDey[m]> 1. Since PRU registers are all 32 bit, will using char reduce memory usage or not?
Apr 12 17:12:02 <ArchismanDey[m]> 2. Any ideas about how we can support sending custom data structures (combination of strings, ints, etc) through rpmsg, since simpPRU does not have struct support?
Apr 12 17:12:13 <Abhishek[m]_> I will answer 2
Apr 12 17:12:21 <vedant16[m]> have you synced with elinux ? if not can you send the link for gdoc ;)
Apr 12 17:12:22 <satacker[m]> Abhishek: 🙂 I found your comments very much helpful. Thanks a lot. Hope the replies and betterments in proposal were good enough. Appreciate lorforlinux  too
Apr 12 17:12:43 <DhruvaGole[m]> Quick qn.
Apr 12 17:12:49 <DhruvaGole[m]> Would this be a correct thing to say:
Apr 12 17:12:50 <ArchismanDey[m]> <vedant16[m] "have you synced with elinux ? if"> Yes, it is synced with eLinux, and I sent the link to you some days ago I think
Apr 12 17:12:50 <DhruvaGole[m]> '''Note''' That we have all of BB IO's accessible in the form of directories).
Apr 12 17:13:10 <vedant16[m]> right, my bad.
Apr 12 17:13:26 <ArchismanDey[m]> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SOOft2ARtzk0hy2NcCcSO52mhFWA7P6t85m6N3ZA-Co/edit?usp=sharing
Apr 12 17:15:05 <ArchismanDey[m]> <ArchismanDey[m] "1. Since PRU registers are all 3"> Actually, related to this, what is the best available documentation for pru-gcc? The only one I know of the Wiki pages in dinuxbg's GitHub
Apr 12 17:16:02 <ArchismanDey[m]> > <@archismandey:matrix.org> 1. Since PRU registers are all 32 bit, will using char reduce memory usage or not?
Apr 12 17:16:02 <ArchismanDey[m]>  * Actually, related to this, what is the best available documentation for pru-gcc? The only one I know of are the Wiki pages in dinuxbg's GitHub
Apr 12 17:16:10 <vedant16[m]> <ArchismanDey[m] "Actually, related to this, what "> That's it. you can drop him an email or create an issue, he'll help
Apr 12 17:16:34 <DhruvaGole[m]> <DhruvaGole[m] "'''Note''' That we have all of B"> anyone? It's a fairly simple qn I suppose...
Apr 12 17:16:50 <DhruvaGole[m]> fellow Students can also help me out..?
Apr 12 17:18:17 <ArchismanDey[m]> <vedant16[m] "That's it. you can drop him an e"> Oh, okay
Apr 12 17:21:10 <vedant16[m]> Archisman Dey: Proposal looks very good. You should go through PRU's datasheet to figure out about how the registers are accessed and what's the memory map of peripherals.
Apr 12 17:24:16 <ArchismanDey[m]> Thanks, will go through it soon
Apr 12 17:31:15 <vedant16[m]> Also, I have used klib for STL like functionality, https://github.com/attractivechaos/klib
Apr 12 17:31:43 <vedant16[m]> basically go through the libraries at https://github.com/VedantParanjape/simpPRU/tree/master/third-party
Apr 12 17:31:50 <lorforlinux[m]> <jduchniewicz "maybe Abhishek  or lorforlinux y"> Your proposal is pretty good.
Apr 12 17:34:12 <lorforlinux[m]> <DhruvaGole[m] "'''Note''' That we have all of B"> you are talking about sysfs right?
Apr 12 17:35:54 <lorforlinux[m]> keep patience :)
Apr 12 17:36:13 <DhruvaGole[m]> yep
Apr 12 17:36:32 <DhruvaGole[m]> <lorforlinux[m] "keep patience :)"> yes, pardon me 😅
Apr 12 17:37:04 <lorforlinux[m]> <DhruvaGole[m] "anyone? It's a fairly simple qn "> https://blog.adafruit.com/2018/11/26/sysfs-is-dead-long-live-libgpiod-libgpiod-for-linux-circuitpython/
Apr 12 17:37:09 <lorforlinux[m]> See this
Apr 12 17:37:48 <vedant16[m]> <DhruvaGole[m] "yes, pardon me 😅"> You need to google things, everytime mentors won't be available at all times
Apr 12 17:37:53 <DhruvaGole[m]> I mean in /sys/class/leds/
Apr 12 17:38:10 <DhruvaGole[m]> <vedant16[m] "You need to google things, every"> yes, duly noted
Apr 12 17:38:29 <lorforlinux[m]> I have submitted some libgpiod examples last year to cloud-9 repository, go check them out :)
Apr 12 17:38:32 <ArchismanDey[m]> vedant16 : Yes, I know about klib and went through the other libs as well while going through your code before writing the proposal
Apr 12 17:38:53 <vedant16[m]> Very nice, you are well prepared :)
Apr 12 17:39:43 <ArchismanDey[m]> 😀
Apr 12 17:39:54 <lorforlinux[m]> Dhruva Gole: yeah that `/sys/*` is known the sysfs entry and you can control peripherals from there
Apr 12 17:40:12 <vedant16[m]> whenever you are free, try to compile pru-gcc on your system too :)
Apr 12 17:40:43 <lorforlinux[m]> satacker: Are you done with your proposal?
Apr 12 17:42:37 <ArchismanDey[m]> <vedant16[m] "whenever you are free, try to co"> Sure, my sem ends 10 days later so I'll do this after that, otherwise I'm having to switch between Windows (since simulation software isn't available for Linux), and Linux (which I use for all dev related stuff) constantly
Apr 12 17:43:17 <vedant16[m]> <ArchismanDey[m] "Sure, my sem ends 10 days later "> ohh, does your college ask you to install that spyware software for exams or what ?
Apr 12 17:43:17 <lorforlinux[m]> <vedant16[m] "All the students, only 24hrs are"> Students Keep this in mind!
Apr 12 17:43:25 <lorforlinux[m]> Act accordingly :)
Apr 12 17:43:38 <DhruvaGole[m]> Yes! Making the final touches now
Apr 12 17:44:28 <ArchismanDey[m]> <vedant16[m] "ohh, does your college ask you t"> No, I was talking about circuit simulation software and the verilog compiler we have to use for our labs
Apr 12 17:44:58 <vedant16[m]> Ohh, FYI. I had spent some time finding OSS tools for this on linux
Apr 12 17:45:25 <vedant16[m]> checkout QUCS for circuit sim, it has a bit off steep curve but runs fine on linux
Apr 12 17:45:38 <vedant16[m]> verilator for verilog on linux
Apr 12 17:45:49 <DhruvaGole[m]> Mentors: Can someone please give me quotes for the benefits section
Apr 12 17:45:53 <DhruvaGole[m]> https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021_Proposal/DhruvaGole#Description
Apr 12 17:46:02 <DhruvaGole[m]>  * https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021_Proposal/DhruvaGole
Apr 12 17:46:34 <ArchismanDey[m]> <vedant16[m] "checkout QUCS for circuit sim, i"> Oh, didn't know about this, will check it out
Apr 12 17:47:32 <ArchismanDey[m]> <vedant16[m] "verilator for verilog on linux"> There's a browser based simulator (edaplayground) that works fine for my needs too, so the verilog one is not that much of a problem ig
Apr 12 17:47:47 <jduchniewicz> ds2:  already uploaded it thanks
Apr 12 17:47:55 <ArchismanDey[m]> But I'll check it out too
Apr 12 17:48:01 <vedant16[m]> <ArchismanDey[m] "There's a browser based simulato"> ohh, cool then.
Apr 12 17:53:02 <jduchniewicz> > <@lorforlinux:matrix.org> Your proposal is pretty good.
Apr 12 17:53:02 <jduchniewicz> > I expected to see some more text on how you are going to tackle Matrix Multiplication.
Apr 12 17:53:02 <jduchniewicz> thanks, I will add it to the proposal then!
Apr 12 17:53:46 <DhruvaGole[m]> also, if any other mentor that giuliomoro  has time, then please go through my latest proposal: https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021_Proposal/bela_on_bbai
Apr 12 17:54:18 <jduchniewicz> <vedant16[m] "verilator for verilog on linux"> all the Xilinx and Quartus run fine on Linux, if we are speaking about proprietary software
Apr 12 17:54:31 <jduchniewicz> *both
Apr 12 18:01:10 <pratimu[m]> <DhruvaGole[m] "Mentors: Can someone please give"> Dhruva Gole:  You can quote any previous conversation with mentors as well which answers "Why" your project is required by the community
Apr 12 18:01:42 <pratimu[m]> For ex when you were initially explained what problems the current software has, etc, you can add that
Apr 12 18:01:49 <DhruvaGole[m]> okay, I have included one such quote from Jason
Apr 12 18:20:06 <Willmish[m]> Is there a datasheet available for the BeagleConnect Freedom?
Apr 12 18:23:25 <Willmish[m]> Is it based on this? https://www.ti.com/tool/LAUNCHXL-CC1352R1
Apr 12 18:31:49 <jduchniewicz> This is indeed a good question, jkridner are these available for purchase or only for self-assembly?
Apr 12 18:31:59 <Willmish[m]> I have a big chunk of my proposal done, would highly appreciate if some mentors could take a look at it whether its going in the right direction or not: https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021_Proposal/Micropython_for_BeagleConnect_Freedom
Apr 12 18:38:11 <pratimu[m]> <DhruvaGole[m] "also, if any other mentor that g"> Dhruva Gole: The BB AI has 4 PRUs as opposed to 2 on the Black or pocketbeagle. How many do you plan to use? Do more PRUs serve any benefit in this case?
Apr 12 18:39:11 <DhruvaGole[m]> <pratimu[m] "Dhruva Gole: The BB AI has 4 PRU"> aha good question, I forgot to address this! I will add this in me proposal
Apr 12 18:40:19 <pratimu[m]> Okay :)
Apr 12 18:42:48 <DhruvaGole[m]> Otherwise, does it look okay?
Apr 12 18:42:51 <pratimu[m]> Also don't recall exactly but I think you can't access PRU RAM on rproc the way you use prussdrv_map_prumem() on UIO.. that's one of the disadvantages of rproc
Apr 12 18:42:58 <DhruvaGole[m]> the overall structure and idea in general?
Apr 12 18:43:15 <DhruvaGole[m]> <pratimu[m] "Also don't recall exactly but I "> ohh that's a bummer
Apr 12 18:43:23 <pratimu[m]> Dhruva Gole: Having a look
Apr 12 18:44:13 <satacker[m]> pratimu: If you could look at [this](https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021_Proposal/beagle_config) that would give me some additional pointers
Apr 12 18:44:28 <pratimu[m]> Please check about that functionality, zmatt on beagle would know more about it
Apr 12 18:44:35 <pratimu[m]> or jkridner
Apr 12 18:45:07 <pratimu[m]> satacker: sure, will have a look
Apr 12 18:49:43 <Willmish[m]> Would it be possible for some mentors to also look through my proposal, and whether in general I’m moving in the right direction? https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021_Proposal/Micropython_for_BeagleConnect_Freedom
Apr 12 18:55:19 <Willmish[m]>  if jkridner could take a look that would be really great
Apr 12 19:00:46 <lorforlinux[m]> <Willmish[m] "Would it be possible for some me"> on it!
Apr 12 19:00:56 <Willmish[m]> Thanks!
Apr 12 19:08:19 <DhruvaGole[m]> Willmish: where did you make this flowcharts? Just out od curiosity
Apr 12 19:08:32 <DhruvaGole[m]> * Willmish: where did you make this flowcharts? Just asking out of curiosity
Apr 12 19:08:35 <Willmish[m]> <DhruvaGole[m] "Willmish: where did you make thi"> draw.io
Apr 12 19:09:04 <Willmish[m]> highly recommend it, easy to use and quick to learn, I use it for most of my university reports :P
Apr 12 19:32:39 <StevenSchrstedt[> <ds2 "Steven Schürstedt: did you see m"> ds2: you mean from yesterday? I saw that
Apr 12 19:36:52 <pratimu[m]> sorry for the delay something had come up
Apr 12 19:37:14 <pratimu[m]> Dhruva Gole: In the community bonding period, a link points towards librobotcontrol
Apr 12 19:37:52 <pratimu[m]> I think it's from the other proposal
Apr 12 19:38:04 <DhruvaGole[m]> <pratimu[m] "Dhruva Gole: In the community bo"> Pardon? What's community bonding period?
Apr 12 19:38:17 <DhruvaGole[m]> Oh ok u mean in my timeline
Apr 12 19:38:27 <pratimu[m]> Yes
Apr 12 19:43:17 <pratimu[m]> also I didn't get what you mean by "in order to progress via intermediate steps,"
Apr 12 19:44:34 <pratimu[m]> Why is it required to test the code without Xenomai first? It would help if you explain that
Apr 12 19:46:32 <DhruvaGole[m]> <pratimu[m] "I think it's from the other prop"> Ahh yes I kinda copy pasted from my other proposal
Apr 12 19:46:38 <pratimu[m]> you would have to add milestone 4 as well
Apr 12 19:46:54 <DhruvaGole[m]> <pratimu[m] "you would have to add milestone "> I am not very clear on the milestones honestly
Apr 12 19:47:04 <pratimu[m]> <DhruvaGole[m] "Ahh yes I kinda copy pasted from"> np
Apr 12 19:47:12 <DhruvaGole[m]> I will have to study much more to get an idea of what will take how much time
Apr 12 19:50:37 <pratimu[m]> okay you started off with the other proposal right, you're focusing more on that one?
Apr 12 19:50:53 <DhruvaGole[m]> Yeah
Apr 12 19:52:19 <pratimu[m]> take feedback from other mentors as well for the Bela one, did giuliomoro have a look?
Apr 12 19:52:40 <DhruvaGole[m]> Actually
Apr 12 19:52:49 <DhruvaGole[m]> giuliomoro has been a major help
Apr 12 19:52:57 <DhruvaGole[m]> Guided me through each sentence of this proposal
Apr 12 19:53:20 <DhruvaGole[m]> It is what it is right now thanks to giuliomoro 's help
Apr 12 19:53:27 <pratimu[m]> ohh okay
Apr 12 19:53:29 <DhruvaGole[m]> He asked me to ask for other mentors views
Apr 12 19:55:02 <pratimu[m]> just check for the prussdrv_map_prumem() function on rproc vedant16 do you know whether there's a way to do it with rproc?
Apr 12 19:56:17 <pratimu[m]> Those would be my comments, I haven't looked in much technical detail as I'm not acquainted with Bela, so please get additional mentors feedback if you can
Apr 12 19:56:51 <pratimu[m]> <pratimu[m] "Why is it required to test the c"> And if you can answer these in the proposal
Apr 12 19:58:11 <DhruvaGole[m]> Yes pratimu thanks alot for the very detailed snd valuable feedback,
Apr 12 19:58:11 <DhruvaGole[m]> I will definitely try to integrate as much as possible
Apr 12 19:58:22 <DhruvaGole[m]> * Yes pratimu thanks alot for the very detailed and valuable feedback,
Apr 12 19:58:22 <DhruvaGole[m]> I will definitely try to integrate as much as possible
Apr 12 20:00:13 <pratimu[m]> Sure, no problem!
Apr 12 20:00:25 <pratimu[m]> satacker: having a look now
Apr 12 20:02:06 <nerdboy> lpillsbury[m]: your draft looks pretty good so far
Apr 12 20:02:53 * nerdboy not so sure about irc/matrix bridge...
Apr 12 20:09:52 <nerdboy> i would probably substitute using CI services (eg, github) for the online build server bit
Apr 12 20:10:04 <YadnikBendale[m]> <jkridner[m] "@Yadnik Bendale you need to look"> jkridner: I added this part as well in my proposal.I am thinking of more approaches of how it can be done.
Apr 12 20:10:32 <YadnikBendale[m]> jkridner: https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC_2021/Micropython_for_BeagleConnect_Freedom.Can you please have a look my proposal.
Apr 12 20:10:49 <YadnikBendale[m]>  * jkridner: https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC_2021/Micropython_for_BeagleConnect_Freedom. Can you please have a look my proposal.
Apr 12 20:11:56 <YadnikBendale[m]> It would be truly grateful if other mentors could also take a look at it and give their valuable feedback🙏.
Apr 12 20:12:03 <YadnikBendale[m]> > <@jkridner:matrix.org> @Yadnik Bendale you need to look at how USB is done on the Freedom board. There is an MSP430 that connects to USB and then connects via UART and I2C to the CC1352.
Apr 12 20:12:03 <YadnikBendale[m]>  * jkridner: I added this part as well in my proposal.I am thinking of more approaches as of how it can be done.
Apr 12 20:12:13 <YadnikBendale[m]>  * It would be truly grateful if other mentors could also take a look at it and give their valuable feedback🙏
Apr 12 20:43:10 <pratimu[m]> satacker:  Looks concise. One thing would be to package it in the Debian image so that it would come installed and users wouldn't have to search for the package
Apr 12 20:44:12 <pratimu[m]> Just a suggestion
Apr 12 20:45:07 <satacker[m]> <pratimu[m] "satacker:  Looks concise. One th"> That would be even better. Thank you for the suggestion.
Apr 12 20:45:14 <pratimu[m]> :)
Apr 12 20:49:20 <nerdboy> you mean get the package into the rnc package archive?
Apr 12 20:50:11 <pratimu[m]> nerdboy: yes
Apr 12 20:50:25 <nerdboy> er, rcn even...
Apr 12 21:24:32 <Willmish[m]> Also jkridner , when communicating with the GPIO pins, establishing I2C communication etc. for the BeagleConnect Freedom, this all has to happen through greybus right?
Apr 12 21:24:52 <Willmish[m]> So the drivers for MicroPython will actually need to interface with the greybus?
Apr 12 21:30:48 <jkridner[m]> No. that would be an interesting approach, but i was thinking of this orthogonal to greybus.
Apr 12 21:31:05 <jkridner[m]> doing a greybus host would be a great idea.
Apr 12 21:31:32 <Willmish[m]> So it would communicate directly to them right?
Apr 12 21:31:56 <Willmish[m]> And to jsut double check, the board I should be looking at is this ?https://www.ti.com/tool/LAUNCHXL-CC1352R1#description
Apr 12 21:49:57 <Willmish[m]> Anyways Im going to call it a day, if some mentors are currently up and could look through my proposal that would be great, I am going to come back to it in a few hours: https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021_Proposal/Micropython_for_BeagleConnect_Freedom
Apr 12 21:50:59 <Willmish[m]> Also whenever you will be free jkridner if u could clarify some general things for me regarding the BeagleConnect Freedom I would really appreciate it, as I dont want to make completely wrong assumptions in the proposal hah
Apr 12 21:56:26 <Willmish[m]> Such as is the board I sent above the actual board used for BeagleConnect. Also I currently see the whole setup as a host device communicating with the BeagleConnect gateway which is running Zephyr and communicates with a BeagleConnect node via bluetooth which is also running Zephyr. A MicroPython with the basic drivers implemented would allow for both to communicate with any number of connected devices via mikroBus
Apr 12 21:56:26 <Willmish[m]> if I am not mistaken, but would not allow a connection between the gateway and the node as the connection occurs via bluetooth? Would implementing a bluetooth module for the ported MicroPython would be a good step towards establishing that connection?
Apr 12 21:56:34 <Willmish[m]> Thanks in advance!
Apr 12 22:01:29 <jkridner[m]> I hope you already made the proposal final as I believe the deadline is now past.
Apr 12 22:02:00 <jduchniewicz> It is still 21 hours
Apr 12 22:02:07 <ArchismanDey[m]> There is 21 hours left for the deadline
Apr 12 22:02:21 <jkridner[m]> Doing a Micropython Greybus host would be great.
Apr 12 22:02:42 <jkridner[m]> Doing it on the Wio Terminal has been a thought.
Apr 12 22:03:45 <jkridner[m]> So, Freedom is a Greybus device and Wio Terminal would access the peripherals over Greybus over BLE.
Apr 12 22:04:21 <jkridner[m]> That could be done in parallel to Micropython on Freedom.
Apr 12 23:15:48 <nerdboy> the google and the mickysoft were battling inside my chromebook...
Apr 12 23:16:39 <nerdboy> i think it got too hot since it rebooted itself after a couple of minutes
Apr 12 23:31:59 <lorforlinux[m]> Willmish: Looking at your proposal, A lot of things are not done yet and how you are going to do the MicroPython/CircuitPython porting for BeagleConnect Freedom board is not clear in your proposal either.
Apr 12 23:32:55 <lorforlinux[m]> If you are still here and need any help please let me know :)
Apr 12 23:34:02 <lorforlinux[m]> <Willmish[m] "Is it based on this? https://www"> Have you seen the hardware files for BeagleConnect?
Apr 12 23:34:57 <lorforlinux[m]> All files available here (inc. that pdf) -> https://github.com/jadonk/beagleconnect/tree/master/hw/Freedom
Apr 12 23:36:05 <lorforlinux[m]> Polish your proposal bit more and include some details on how you are actually going to achieve the milestones :)
Apr 12 23:36:22 <lorforlinux[m]> Not much time remaining, do it ASAP!
Apr 12 23:38:02 <lorforlinux[m]> It's for all the students who still haven't submitted the proposal on GSoC site, don't wait much!
Apr 12 23:38:02 <lorforlinux[m]> submit you proposal even if you think you haven't received much feedback!
Apr 12 23:55:06 <lorforlinux[m]> lpillsbury: Reading your proposal
Apr 12 23:55:06 <lorforlinux[m]> https://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2021_Proposal/TensorFlow_Lite_Compatibility_with_BeagleBone_AI
Apr 12 23:57:12 <lorforlinux[m]> I like that you are focusing on getting the TensorFlow Lite to work on the ARM Cortex M4 core of BBAI
Apr 12 23:57:46 <lorforlinux[m]> The link for BeagleMic is not correct in your proposal.
Apr 12 23:58:21 <lorforlinux[m]> I am not sure if `HD Camera cape` is supported on BBAI yet!
Apr 12 23:58:57 <lorforlinux[m]> I have a few questions to ask regarding your proposal
Apr 12 23:59:55 <lorforlinux[m]> How do you think the Linux Kernel will communicate with the ARM Cortex M4 processor of BBAI?
Apr 13 00:02:30 <lorforlinux[m]> <lorforlinux[m] "How do you think the Linux Kerne"> the way we will transmit and receive data and commands between processors!
Apr 13 00:03:57 <lorforlinux[m]> Any specific MCU board with ARM Cortex M4 core you know that can run TensorFlow Lite models?
Apr 13 00:04:55 <lorforlinux[m]> `TensorFlow Lite examples working on the Arduino`
Apr 13 00:04:55 <lorforlinux[m]> Which Arduino board are you talking about?
Apr 13 00:08:52 <lorforlinux[m]> I see that you have already talked to a lot of people for the project and the `Benefit` section of your project is pretty impressive.
Apr 13 00:11:16 <lorforlinux[m]> Please try to elaborate bit more on the Milestones you have set for the project.
Apr 13 00:11:17 <lorforlinux[m]> `Milestone #2, Working version of TensorFlow Lite on a BeagleBone AI `
Apr 13 00:11:17 <lorforlinux[m]> Doesn't tell us how you are going to achieve that :(
Apr 13 00:15:19 <lorforlinux[m]> Willmish: It would be awesome if you could include rough sketch OR the steps you would take for Micropython port to BeagleConnect into your proposal :)
Apr 13 00:17:11 <lorforlinux[m]> Look for other boards with `Arm® Cortex®-M4F processor` with Micropython support
Apr 13 00:19:56 <lorforlinux[m]> This way you can narrow down the process for porting it to BeagleConnect, post your questions here i'll try to answer as much as i can. Just don't keep any placeholder text in your proposal before asking me to review it again :)
Apr 13 00:22:25 <nerdboy> lpillsbury[m]: i second the milestone comment from lorforlinux[m]
Apr 13 00:23:26 <nerdboy> that's the main part i can see that needs a bit more definition
Apr 13 00:26:14 <cwicks[m]> Hello Students.  Is everyone's proposal listed here? https://elinux.org/Category:GSoCProposal2021
Apr 13 00:33:10 <lorforlinux[m]> Yadnik Bendale: Reading your proposal, good work 👍️
Apr 13 00:40:32 <cwicks[m]> jkridner: which proposals have you had a chance to review
Apr 13 00:43:33 <cwicks[m]> Yadnik Bendale: do you have a GSoC link yet for your project proposals - Beagleconnect and OpenGLES?
Apr 13 00:43:55 <cwicks[m]> lpillsbury: How are you doing on your proposal?  Did you get to chat with Robert Nelson?
Apr 13 00:46:07 <nerdboy> i manually "bridged" the comments/questions above into the forum thread started by lpillsbury[m]
Apr 13 00:47:06 <lorforlinux[m]> Thanks nerdboy great help! 👍️
Apr 13 00:57:41 <lorforlinux[m]> Yadnik Bendale: Your proposal is pretty good!
Apr 13 00:58:17 <lorforlinux[m]> Can you please create a PDF of your proposal and submit it on GSoC site ASAP?
Apr 13 02:29:06 <cwicks[m]> laimonade: giuliomoro[m] It's really important that we get the proposal into the GSOC system so that it can be considered.  Can you please do that tonight?  https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/dashboard/proposals/shared/?sp-page_size=25
Apr 13 02:29:18 <cwicks[m]> Deadline is coming up.
Apr 13 02:29:34 <cwicks[m]> GSOC will not accept it if it is only on the eLINUX.
Apr 13 02:30:41 <cwicks[m]> Yadnik Bendale: It's really important to get your proposals into the GSOC system   can you please do that urgently? https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/dashboard/proposals/shared/?sp-page_size=25
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