**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 21 03:01:26 2021 Apr 21 14:55:37 Meeting today as usual !! , reminder for students. Apr 21 16:56:12 :-D Apr 21 16:56:32 it is interesting your message came through over the bridge. For me, I'm not seeing anything. Apr 21 16:57:52 thanks rcnee!! All: please do anything you can to test this new image. If minimal regressions, we'll post it as the new official latest-image. Apr 21 17:01:14 I am not able to see rcnee's messages from element matrix. 😅 Apr 21 17:01:23 +1 Apr 21 17:05:37 I think, we should shift to some other platform before it's gsoc. Apr 21 17:06:30 not seeing them either Apr 21 17:06:50 jkridner: zulip ? Apr 21 17:06:53 we can shift there Apr 21 17:07:00 it is open source and self hostable Apr 21 17:07:39 matrix is open source and self hostable. Apr 21 17:07:51 IRC is open source and self hostable. Apr 21 17:08:01 But, it is not working for many Apr 21 17:08:04 hmmm..... makes me think about maybe irc.beagleboard.org. Apr 21 17:08:14 that might work for IRC users. Apr 21 17:08:24 ds2: what if we hosted our on IRC server? Apr 21 17:11:49 can we move away from irc altogether ? Apr 21 17:12:08 things like slack, zulip, discord are very productive in terms of features. Apr 21 17:15:09 If we had our own IRC server, we could bridge it to whatever. Apr 21 17:15:20 (except perhaps #beagle on freenode) Apr 21 17:15:49 how difficult is it to setup a irc server ? is there any alternative Apr 21 17:16:07 actually we can try discord and irc connection. 1bitsquared server has that. Apr 21 17:16:49 Hello Students and Mentors - Happy Wednesday!!! Apr 21 17:16:52 Meeting in 15 mins :) Apr 21 17:17:24 ☕️🌍️😀 Apr 21 17:18:04 yes Apr 21 17:18:30 hey everyone :) Apr 21 17:18:44 Hello 😀 Apr 21 17:19:44 As I had mentioned earlier about interface namings, [here](https://satacker.github.io/posts/gsoc/) is my current findings Apr 21 17:20:34 zulip is fairly popular alternative, and allows for something very useful - threads Apr 21 17:20:49 +1 Apr 21 17:29:05 I imagine Zulip has the same issues with freenode that matrix has. Apr 21 17:29:44 i thought the whole idea was to use both Apr 21 17:29:47 everyone can move to zulip, no bridges or anything needed then. Apr 21 17:34:32 the only bottleneck is using additional client for it Apr 21 17:39:22 Hi everyone Apr 21 17:40:19 hi! Apr 21 17:40:31 cwicks[m]: you driving this train? Apr 21 17:41:07 Hi jkridner thanks! Yes :) Apr 21 17:41:48 Hello, my semester ends on Friday, so I'll start working from Saturday! Apr 21 17:41:50 Welcome everyone to the BeagleBoard.org GSoC weekly meeting. We use this time to officially touch base and check in Apr 21 17:42:28 Please use this channel for communications at any time with the team of mentors and students as we move through the official process and timing here of the GSOC. Apr 21 17:42:44 We are excited by the level of quality proposals that we received this year for review. Apr 21 17:43:49 Hello everyone Apr 21 17:44:05 MENTORS: Two things during today's meeting. Please touch base with me in the mentor room to make sure I know where you are on your actions. Second - spend time with the students here in the GSOC room to answer any questions and encourage activities the students can do now to prepare for projects. Apr 21 17:44:30 QUESTION FOR MENTORS: In general - what type of activities has helped you the most get up to speed on working with BeagleBoards? Apr 21 17:45:25 STUDENTS: It's an exciting time waiting for the proposals to be read/evaluated and requested to Google for support. Please use this time to engage with our mentors and ask questions and get resources to help you prep. Apr 21 17:45:44 Reading derek's book and trying out his examples. Apr 21 17:47:09 cwicks got to meet Dr Molloy last year in Ireland before the lockdown Apr 21 17:47:12 :) Apr 21 17:47:25 :-D Apr 21 17:47:27 BIG FAN!!! Apr 21 17:47:41 hey :) I have an open question about datasheet for beagle board sgx gpu, where to find information about supported texture format etc, any ideas? for the gpgpu project Apr 21 17:48:13 vedant16[m]: irc.beagleboard.org is up. #gsoc is there. totally unsure if it fix anything, but I will setup a matrix bridge to it that should "just work". I'll have to do some things to make it more long-term reliable. Apr 21 17:48:51 vedant16[m]: everyone moving to zulip doesn't feel like an option to me.... we want to meet the experts on irc where they are at. Apr 21 17:50:04 I have my exams from 26th till mid of may (including practicals(simulation) n viva n written test) Apr 21 17:50:06 * jkridner looks at NishanthMenon ds2 nerdboy moto-timo mdp dinuxbg and others who are kind enough to idle in this room. I think the most I could ask of them is to idle in yet another IRC room, not add yet-another-client to their list of applications. Apr 21 17:50:16 how to join :) Apr 21 17:50:37 Yes, what I mean there need's to be a permanent working this, message dropping has became a big issue Apr 21 17:52:00 Hey, I am going through all the answers that my mentors have provided via forums and chats, however my final sem exams are just next week hence I will be a little occupied, once they are over by May6ish, I will go god speed with my GSoC pre-requisite preps :) Apr 21 17:52:34 be happy to add another channel, what's the channel? Apr 21 17:53:13 I think there might not be a datasheet for this SGX GPUs Apr 21 17:53:55 At least could not find one during my proposal prep Apr 21 17:54:05 datasheet for SGX? HA HA HA HA Apr 21 17:54:16 * ds2 points to the blank PDF :D Apr 21 17:54:32 > * <@freenode_ds2:matrix.org> points to the blank PDF :D Apr 21 17:54:32 🤣 Apr 21 17:54:46 #gsoc Apr 21 17:55:43 unable to find this... Apr 21 17:55:56 Hey, I am looking at writing the drivers part. Found a uart example driver for esp8266. Was trying something on similar lines for the BeagleConnect Freedom. https://github.com/kfricke/micropython-esp8266uart Apr 21 17:56:40 can you just shift to esp32 ? It's better supported in all ways Apr 21 17:57:02 alright thanks ds2 😄 Apr 21 17:57:14 Yes I'll look out for esp32. Apr 21 17:59:51 Hey Eveyone! Apr 21 17:59:51 lemme know If anybody has any question for me :) Apr 21 18:01:50 lorforlinux Apr 21 18:01:50 It would be nice if u could take a look about interface namings, [here](https://satacker.github.io/posts/gsoc/) is my current findings Apr 21 18:05:19 Those links you provided are for predictable names for interfaces inside Linux no? Apr 21 18:05:34 Yes Apr 21 18:06:34 But you wrote `USB CDC ECM` class interfaces in the text 🤔 Apr 21 18:06:51 What are we trying to achieve here? Apr 21 18:07:39 We just want the PC software to find the Beagle device easily right? Apr 21 18:07:50 I thought I need interface names for iptables rules Apr 21 18:07:52 Or is this some other task you have talking about? Apr 21 18:08:33 How are we doing it manually now? Apr 21 18:08:48 Ifconfig Apr 21 18:09:07 Using ifconfig and then determining on our own Apr 21 18:09:29 students, I am here for some time, ask any questions if there are. Apr 21 18:09:35 or you need to discuss some idea Apr 21 18:12:58 Interface names don't change that much from user to user and it's pretty easy to list down all which are available. I am not really sure what's the discussion on and if there is anything to solve here 🤔 Apr 21 18:14:08 As interface name incorporates mac addresses i guess it would differ right? Apr 21 18:16:35 Mac addresses do change but, interface names are assigned on the basis of connection. It's like you'll always get `wlan0` for the first wifi device and `eth0` for the first ethernet device discovered by Linux. Apr 21 18:17:32 Similar thing for other like `USB-UART` device, doesn't depend on HID and VID. Apr 21 18:17:51 * Similar thing for other devices like `USB-UART` bridge, doesn't depend on HID and VID. Apr 21 18:17:58 iff net.ifnames=0 Apr 21 18:20:07 I suppose that's what going under the hood? Never checked how the Linux source for how interface names are assigned :) Apr 21 18:20:19 * I suppose that's what going under the hood? Never checked the Linux source for how interface names are assigned :) Apr 21 18:21:31 https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInterfaceNames Apr 21 18:21:31 nerdboy has a suggestion however I don't think i could use it Apr 21 18:22:35 `since they might get plugged into a different socket each time, these use ID_NET_NAME_MAC - automated via /lib/udev/rules.d/73-usb-net-by-mac.rules.` says the above site Apr 21 18:22:37 i just meant you only get the old (eth0) naming if you disable the "predictable" naming Apr 21 18:22:54 oh, pardon me Apr 21 18:23:34 alternatively you could use your own rules to rename stuff Apr 21 18:24:06 * nerdboy has a a machine with net0 interface Apr 21 18:24:21 * ArthurSonzogni[m < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/tTCEZqwoendmfiaGhsezvhGj/message.txt > Apr 21 18:27:18 Arthur Sonzogni: Hey, great to have you! Apr 21 18:29:03 Hello Arthur Sonzogni , i haven't discussed about terminal ui part yet. Also i have exams from 26 to mid of march, as soon as those are over I would discuss the overview of architecture needed to incorporate the ui + backend Apr 21 18:30:24 Arthur Sonzogni: awesome work buddy! great to have you onboard 🤩 Apr 21 18:30:33 * Hello Arthur Sonzogni , i haven't discussed about terminal ui part yet. Also i have exams from 26 to mid of may*, as soon as those are over I would discuss the overview of architecture needed to incorporate the ui + backend Apr 21 18:33:11 My exams are also starting next week, I will be done with end semester exam, practicals by the first week of may. I will speed up the pre-work as soon as the exams get over. Apr 21 18:34:07 I look forward to discussing this with you ;-). Good luck with your exams! Apr 21 18:39:20 Good luck with your exams! Apr 21 18:39:27 Thanks Apr 21 18:40:51 Good luck with your exams! Apr 21 18:41:02 * Good luck with your exams everyone! Apr 21 18:41:14 HELLO STUDENTS - can you please just ping me here if you are here today? I want to 🙌 you for coming to the meeting and being engaged. I know you all are finishing up a term with exams and so forth - it's a busy time! Please let us know if you have any questions. Apr 21 18:41:14 Thank you lorforlinux Arthur Sonzogni Apr 21 18:42:46 Hello cwicks ! Apr 21 18:43:12 cwicks: ok im here 😄 but I will go for a swim soon 👍️ staying fit Apr 21 18:43:40 Hi cwicks , I'm here! Apr 21 18:43:57 Hi cwicks , me too Apr 21 18:44:15 Hi cwicks Apr 21 18:47:09 STUDENTS (and Mentors) if you are interested to find out a bit more about Derek Molloy - here are a couple of articles / interviews from my visits with him. https://beagleboard.org/blog/2018-12-11-molloy-new-book Apr 21 18:47:33 https://beagleboard.org/blog/2018-10-21-derek-molloy Apr 21 19:01:42 anujdeshpande: sorry to reboot the irc server. I hope it is closer to final configuration now. Apr 21 19:01:47 cwicks: hey I’m here! Sorry but similarly to most of other students I’ve got final exams coming up next week, so will be a bit busy until they are finished! Apr 21 19:01:50 bridge still isn't quite working. Apr 21 19:02:24 I'm getting messages matrix->irc, but not the other way. kinda funny as it is opposite of what I'm getting with freenode. Apr 21 19:03:17 Hi @cwicks! I am also here :) Apr 21 19:04:00 Probably we should put this in gsoc 2022 projects to stabilize the IRC, matrix bridge 😛 Apr 21 19:21:15 DhruvaG2000[m]: :-D Apr 21 19:21:38 I think @rcn-ee celebrated the matrix bridge a bit soon. Apr 21 19:30:22 Hi cwicks I am here Apr 21 22:10:51 topic(s) of interest notwithstanding, i would recommend getting the latest beaglebone image for whatever you currently have and test installing/switching kernel packages (since there are several valid kernels/versions with different interfaces for prus, etc) Apr 21 22:11:05 ^^ students in general Apr 21 22:12:36 there are *a lot* of kernel pkgs available... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 22 02:59:57 2021