**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 01 02:59:57 2012 Feb 01 03:00:00 thank you for your help :D Feb 01 03:16:02 I dont think ask processes /etc/profile.d/ Feb 01 03:16:06 ash Feb 01 03:17:03 my boner is in hotel though Feb 01 03:20:49 does anyone have the beaglebone? does it use gnome if you buy the dvi-d expansion to have video output? Feb 01 03:21:24 it can use gnome Feb 01 03:21:37 or kde Feb 01 03:21:43 or xfce Feb 01 03:21:46 what comes with it standard? Feb 01 03:21:59 80x25 seriel console I think :-D Feb 01 03:22:21 starting to think the second USB on my beaglebone is defective :( Feb 01 03:22:46 lol ok do you know how hard getting gnome on the beaglebone is hard? im new to linux Feb 01 03:22:50 devices show up with lsusb but never work Feb 01 03:23:04 opkg install angstrom-gnome-task (or something like that) Feb 01 03:23:33 it has ethernet, which is quite flexible Feb 01 03:23:38 or just install debian on it :-D Feb 01 03:23:53 you could run vnc Feb 01 03:25:07 beagle* kernels are stable enough you can pretty much do anything you want, just like a desktop PC Feb 01 03:27:02 apt-get install prpplague :-D Feb 01 03:28:42 repo not found Feb 01 03:29:02 XorA: you seen this one? http://youtu.be/8Px-GHPxB4I Feb 01 03:30:59 prpplague: nope, I is in office cant really watch now Feb 01 03:31:46 heh, that one ought to be allowed in the office Feb 01 03:33:23 XorA: no worries, i'll get it to you later, hehe Feb 01 03:37:31 I have a USB drive plugged into the beaglebone USB port - should I need to do anything else to mount it? Feb 01 04:22:58 Hello All Feb 01 04:45:46 jvcleave: which distro? Feb 01 04:52:10 ubuntu - I got it figured out mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb did it Feb 01 04:53:27 ubuntu usually automounts under /media/ Feb 01 05:07:45 thurbad: yeah - I thought it would automount but I must not have something turned on Feb 01 06:12:19 does anyone know why my narcissus angstrom build with xfce4 doesn't load X on my BBXM...it just shows console login prompt Feb 01 06:17:44 ...so, I heard suse has a kernel dev opening Feb 01 06:19:49 <_av500_> Russ: where? Feb 01 06:20:06 dunno, gregkh left Feb 01 06:27:06 hi Feb 01 06:27:19 is any body there from beagle board to help me? Feb 01 06:40:40 some one there? Feb 01 06:46:00 hi Feb 01 06:46:07 can you help me? Feb 01 06:47:06 @emeb_mac: hi u there? Feb 01 07:09:21 does anyone have xfce working on angstrom Feb 01 07:16:37 are there anyone who can help me regarding beagle board rev c4 Feb 01 07:17:51 whats the prob Feb 01 08:03:16 anyone know why xserver sometimes starts and sometimes doesn't... Feb 01 08:03:24 /usr/bin/X sometimes exists and sometimes doesn't as well... Feb 01 08:03:35 angstrom? Feb 01 08:03:42 yes Feb 01 08:03:50 sorry missed that fact Feb 01 08:04:00 it happens from narcissus when I use any x11 window manager Feb 01 08:04:04 it works the first time then fucks up Feb 01 08:04:42 idea? Feb 01 08:05:39 piezo? Feb 01 08:26:08 same result as yesterday - beaglebone boots, is connected to 100MbE-switch, shows link, RX and TX are counting, but does not get an ip. Feb 01 08:27:49 counting? Feb 01 08:28:09 so the kernel actually sees packets coming in? Feb 01 08:28:31 aholler: yep, ifconfig shows that packets are going in and out. Feb 01 08:31:59 and as usual - if i connect my trustworthy usb-ethernet adapter, it instantly works. Feb 01 08:33:58 observation: upon boot _and_ ifconfig eth0 up, dmesg says: [ 4.331666] Feb 01 08:33:59 [ 4.331676] CPSW phy found : id is : 0x7c0f1 Feb 01 08:34:04 [ 4.338491] PHY 0:01 not found Feb 01 08:34:06 if the kernels sees packets i assume it's time to inspect them, e.g. if they contain your dhcp-requests and responses Feb 01 08:34:10 :(( Feb 01 08:35:11 is that phy not found message normal? Feb 01 08:42:41 LetoThe2nd: A4? Feb 01 08:42:59 koen: yep. arrived just yesterday. Feb 01 08:44:38 at the moment i'm running opkg upgrade, we'll see what happens then. Feb 01 09:00:29 ... feels like this thing is updating literally every single package Feb 01 09:00:55 its like a service pack Feb 01 09:01:48 av500: will it also offer me to tell me how super cool closed source payware if after the next reboot? Feb 01 09:01:56 +is Feb 01 09:03:24 i particularly like that one: "Installing kernel-module-gpio-fan". obviously the kernel itself is a fan of gpios :) Feb 01 09:05:54 LetoThe2nd: remove R219 on the bottom Feb 01 09:06:33 LetoThe2nd: and I suspect reflashing the sd card will be faster, give http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-eglibc-ipk-v2012.01-core-beaglebone-2012.01.27.img.xz a try Feb 01 09:07:14 koen: time is not an issue, it's just running while i'm also doing $PAIDWORK ;) Feb 01 09:16:16 koen: is that resistor a known issue, or more of a guess? Feb 01 09:16:29 what does it resist? Feb 01 09:16:40 futile Feb 01 09:16:48 av500: nothing, its futile anyway Feb 01 09:17:06 * av500 patents the futilistor Feb 01 09:17:06 Hi there! Does anyone has beagleboard running qt with qws running on it? Feb 01 09:17:22 anyone? of all 6 billion people? Feb 01 09:17:42 yep :-) Feb 01 09:18:44 as it just needs a fb it works Feb 01 09:18:45 and I forgot to mention OpenGL!! Feb 01 09:19:34 so what I would like to know the version of Qt and the version/type of the powervr driver? Feb 01 09:20:49 btw, anyone knows where r219 is hidden in the schematics. couldn't spot it... Feb 01 09:21:10 LetoThe2nd: under the cpu Feb 01 09:21:34 look out for some little thingy with a 0 next to it ;) Feb 01 09:22:11 schmeatics, not on the pcs. Feb 01 09:22:18 pcb, even. Feb 01 09:22:29 placebos are working ;) Feb 01 09:22:43 LetoThe2nd: yes, on the schematic :) Feb 01 09:22:52 its under the cpu, so you cant see it Feb 01 09:23:46 * LetoThe2nd feels that this joke totally passed him by. Feb 01 09:24:26 was a placebo joke, actually they don't work always :( Feb 01 09:38:16 koen: i have been trying to find how to load g_ether module at startup from yesterday morning on... Do you know how?(I search all the webpages and tried every solution..) Feb 01 09:38:42 * av500 still proposes to use rcX.d Feb 01 09:41:26 av500 : i used all rcx.d : from rc0.d to rc6.d even though my runlevel is 1 Feb 01 09:41:43 but not worked.. Feb 01 09:51:35 parana: you loaded it _after_ musb_hdrc was inserted in the right mode? you checked for error messages? Feb 01 09:52:20 dm8tbr: nope how to check it? Feb 01 09:52:37 no idea, it's your system :) Feb 01 09:53:10 how do you check it in your system? Feb 01 09:55:29 I still dont have musb_hdrc module, may be it is not loaded: http://pastebin.com/czAmsGaM Feb 01 09:56:19 dm8tbr: ^ Feb 01 09:57:02 obviously can't load g_ether then... Feb 01 09:58:18 dm8tbr: i can manually load g_ether Feb 01 09:58:26 even though i still dont have it Feb 01 09:59:26 http://pastebin.com/tGfpBq5H Feb 01 10:00:00 look i dont even load musb_hdrc Feb 01 10:06:48 here is the result of dmesg | grep musb : http://pastebin.com/iM9uEHCQ Feb 01 10:06:48 Interesting.. Feb 01 10:07:37 use modprobe.d or write a systemd unit Feb 01 10:07:43 and google some more Feb 01 10:08:06 # cat /etc/modprobe.d/g_ether Feb 01 10:08:06 g_ether Feb 01 10:08:07 or just build it into the kernel Feb 01 10:08:37 what is systemd unit? Feb 01 10:14:58 what is google? Feb 01 10:17:31 koen: a kansas city ISP... Feb 01 10:19:47 koen: http://simonwillison.net/2004/apr/5/whatisgoogle/ :))) Feb 01 11:37:31 power management done, and now to more important stuff: splash screens! where is the "earliest place" to add a splash that will stick? the u-boot one will disappear like the orange color I'm currently trying to get rid of, I suspect. Feb 01 11:41:22 tasslehoffwrk: so what did you do for PM? Feb 01 11:42:50 av500: got a fix from felipebalbi to make musb compile and work as a module, and backported it to 2.6.39. Before hitting suspend I remove sms95xx.ko, musb-hdrc.ko and omap2430.ko. Feb 01 11:43:00 ok Feb 01 11:43:02 good Feb 01 11:43:15 for splash, we do it in boot loader Feb 01 11:43:42 you can tell dss to not reinit the dss, then it even stays during linux boot Feb 01 11:44:09 otherwise you have a screen flash when boot splash is replaced with linux splash Feb 01 11:44:20 bootloader being u-boot? Feb 01 11:44:34 no Feb 01 11:45:24 av500: typo in "tell dss not to reinit the dss"? Feb 01 11:51:36 tasslehoffwrk: it's a KConfig option Feb 01 11:51:50 somewhere in the graphics section Feb 01 11:59:48 Hi, folks, I'm trying to access shared memory via php. It looks like the php on angstrom does not have the shared memory library compiled into its version of the php... Has anybody had any success doing something similar? Feb 01 12:02:44 koen: disabling the boot logo, you mean? Feb 01 12:15:21 tasslehoffwrk: sort of, to stop the kernel from trashing the uboot logo Feb 01 12:18:02 why is opkg install firefox... waits and writes Killed Feb 01 12:20:24 I think that makes the ugly orange (where is that setup?) stay a bit longer, but my lcd loses signal around the time that I see "booting the kernel" on uart. Feb 01 12:20:56 tasslehoffwrk: you need to make sure the uboot and kernel timings are the same Feb 01 12:21:05 tasslehoffwrk: and replace the oragne with your logo Feb 01 12:21:19 av500: what's a good frequency for pwm backlights? Feb 01 12:23:04 100Hz and 500Hz make it buzz :( Feb 01 12:24:02 koen: also vibrate? Feb 01 12:58:09 argh Feb 01 12:58:30 * koen stops shadowing a var and suddenly the eCAP0 problem is gone Feb 01 13:17:37 koen: after copying the new file to the sd card, when it boots i get the heartbeat LED nearly instantly, but nothing more... Feb 01 13:19:19 looks like partition 2 is damaged... yay for a re-writing. Feb 01 13:38:38 ok, after reflashing LED0 is heartbeat, LED1 is constantly on. no output on the serial anyway, connected through /dev/serial/by-id/usb-FTDI_BeagleBone-if01-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB4 Feb 01 13:40:33 then after some time, LED1 got busy blinking fast, and finally went off. so now again just heartbeat on LED0 Feb 01 13:42:09 but hey, ethernet works now. Feb 01 13:42:52 koen: is serial output/tty maybe disabled by default on that new image? Feb 01 13:47:01 tasslehoffwrk: yeah, what koen said Feb 01 13:47:16 you setup DSS in boot loader and make the kernel not mess it up Feb 01 13:51:20 LetoThe2nd: no, but check uEnv.txt for 'quiet' Feb 01 13:51:30 av500: yep. trying to figure out the register settings now Feb 01 13:51:34 LetoThe2nd: I suspect it isn't printing anything during fsck with quiet on Feb 01 14:00:29 koen: there's a quiet in there, yes. Feb 01 14:00:48 but still nothing on serial. :( Feb 01 14:22:26 In the AM3359 what do they mean by a "Q"DMA channel, what is the Q ? Feb 01 14:23:35 quirky Feb 01 14:23:42 I hope not Feb 01 14:24:43 queer Feb 01 14:27:44 LetoThe2nd: you're using the 'B' channel, right? Feb 01 14:27:50 LetoThe2nd: the 'A' channel is jtag Feb 01 14:29:01 koen: yep, if01. if i connect to if00, then i can stop the board by writing somethign to it. obviously one of the control lines hits _RST or so of the jtag ;( Feb 01 14:43:43 i used mingetty to auto start my program in my old kernel: 2.6.36 . But now, in 3.0.14+ i installed mingetty but it didnt create a file: /etc/inittab . Is there anyone using mingetty in 3.0.14+ kernel? Feb 01 14:50:08 what does the kernel have to do with inittab? Feb 01 14:50:30 start g_ether module and start my executable.. Feb 01 14:50:43 parana: dunno which image you're using, but recent angstrom doesn't use sysvinit Feb 01 14:50:52 01. 2012 Feb 01 14:51:27 koen: what you mean there is no way to start my application at startup? Feb 01 14:51:40 no Feb 01 14:55:12 Is there a usefull manual for how acts recent angstrom which includes this startup things? Feb 01 14:55:19 parana, there are several ways to start things at boot Feb 01 14:55:26 read about systemd Feb 01 14:55:42 which allegedly has a sysvinit compatibilty mode Feb 01 14:57:33 Crofton|work: i actually tried to change systemd. but i cant open angstrom again :) Now still i am installing angstrom again.. But, ok if it is the way i will more read and will try.. Feb 01 14:58:21 open? Feb 01 14:58:36 I haven't worked out how to go back to sysvinit either Feb 01 15:13:39 koen: OMAP5910 is OMAP5 or OMAP1 :) Feb 01 15:13:58 both Feb 01 15:14:12 OMPA9 too? Feb 01 15:15:01 coz grepping for OMAP5 in linux brings some unexpected results.... Feb 01 15:15:24 hi, how can i use the serial ttyS1 on BB-xm? Feb 01 15:15:34 where is the pinout? Feb 01 15:16:02 where is the google? Feb 01 15:16:09 idk Feb 01 15:16:16 :) Feb 01 15:16:24 ask lycos Feb 01 15:16:31 i read the manual but im confused Feb 01 15:16:57 for that reason im asking Feb 01 15:17:21 the manual has a pinout, no? Feb 01 15:24:24 ok i found the uart port 2 Feb 01 15:24:38 where is the uart port 1? Feb 01 15:45:22 Hi...i need help on config expansion IO...somehow GPIO that I set didn't generate "1010". Feb 01 15:45:46 did you read the manu9al? Feb 01 15:46:47 google is your friend Feb 01 15:47:28 sry guest . im kidding Feb 01 15:47:52 Yes, I have. I am using devkit8000. i m doing it on the driver kernel. I hijacked the twl4030-gpio.c. to create "1010". Feb 01 15:48:08 tholm...is ok.. :D Feb 01 15:48:34 I wanted to proof i can control the IO config.. Feb 01 15:48:53 actually no idea Feb 01 15:49:19 here is my code: Feb 01 15:49:24 omap_cfg_reg(AE2_34XX_GPIO130_OUT); if (gpio_request(130, "AE2_34XX_GPIO130_OUT") == 0) { if(gpio_direction_output(130, 1)==0) { printk(KERN_INFO "IO_EXPANDER: WORKs!\n"); gpio_set_value(130, 1); for(itime=0;itime<1000000;itime++) { for(atime=0;atime<1000000;atime++) might_sleep(); } gpio_set_value(130, 0); for(itime=0;itime<1000000;itime++) { for(atime=0;atime<1000000;atime++) Feb 01 15:49:31 oh no... Feb 01 15:49:37 um dude use pastebin Feb 01 15:49:52 sorry... Feb 01 15:52:30 http://pastebin.com/MXZ4yqJ9 Feb 01 15:58:23 a touchscreen - is it something which must be integral to a (led) screen or can it be separate from/in front of the screen? Feb 01 15:59:03 man, i'm reading this eDMA manual, and I'm reading about the eDMA controller servicing peripherals directly, it's insane Feb 01 15:59:06 (i assume the latter) Feb 01 15:59:21 I wonder if you hook it up to something like the dcan how exactly it would go about clearing th einterrupt after it transferred the data out Feb 01 15:59:31 touchscreen can be separate from the led screen Feb 01 16:00:26 it can works alone...but you need to recalibrate the touch sensor capacitance value... Feb 01 16:00:38 if its a capacitive one Feb 01 16:00:47 i'd use resistive on a boat Feb 01 16:03:22 here is my code: http://pastebin.com/u47zzvvs Feb 01 16:03:38 I can't figure why it is no able to latch the IO Feb 01 16:03:49 ...there are many like it, but this one is yours... Feb 01 16:07:56 inside the gpio.txt int gpio_request(unsigned gpio, const char *label); actually what kind of label we should put in? Feb 01 16:24:36 guest/av500> thanks. Feb 01 16:50:26 hi how's everybody doing? Feb 01 16:50:39 I hope good Feb 01 16:54:07 I was wondering if one of you smart people can help me out. I have created a filesystem/uboot/MLO on Narcissus. The good news is that it works flawlessly. Unfortunately, I cant use the kernel that Narcissus uses and as a result I must compile my own. I have noticed when I insert my compiled kernel , when the BB XM boots, it says that my filesystem is read only. Does anybody have an idea why that is? Feb 01 16:56:28 now that was a fast consultation. Feb 01 16:57:24 Has anyone successfully installed ROS on a beagleboard using Angstrom? Or should I switch to Ubuntu? Feb 01 16:57:58 isnt ROS ubuntu based? Feb 01 16:58:11 av500: sort of Feb 01 16:58:26 you can use it without ubuntu, but there 'installer' calls apt-get Feb 01 16:58:33 maybe somebody can port it to linux Feb 01 16:58:40 see http://www.ros.org/wiki/gumros Feb 01 16:59:44 so its APR, boost and a package called ROS Feb 01 17:00:42 yes. its da RealOperatingSystem! Da only One! Feb 01 17:02:08 anybody use the bb-lvds board/touchscreen? Feb 01 17:02:44 BlInK311: nope, be are totally super in cross-ansering cross-posts. Feb 01 17:04:38 LetoThe2nd: I know, I asked in wrong section because i dont have it running on my pandaboard yet. running on my beaglexM. Feb 01 17:05:46 anyway. the desktop is off the screen. do i have to change boot args to make it fit? Feb 01 17:10:48 running linaro ubuntu on the bbxm. resolution defaults to 1280x720 but its off the screen. would changing the resolution in uboot fix this? Feb 01 17:11:19 define "off" Feb 01 17:12:35 av500: the right and bottom of the desktop is past the physical dimensions of the screen Feb 01 17:12:56 and the left and top is ok? Feb 01 17:13:04 could still be your TV's overscan Feb 01 17:14:26 monitor is the bb-lvds touchscreen . Feb 01 17:14:44 ah Feb 01 17:14:45 yes the left and top is perfect Feb 01 17:14:57 well, it has only 800x480 Feb 01 17:15:37 Resolution: 1024×600 Feb 01 17:16:01 still less than 1280x720 Feb 01 17:16:08 i guess that answers my question. Feb 01 17:16:44 will changing the resolution in uboot fix this? Feb 01 18:19:01 Does the kernel and filesystem have to match? Feb 01 18:22:19 match in what sense? the kernel has to support the filesystem, of course Feb 01 18:42:44 <_av500_> modules have to match kernel Feb 01 18:43:01 <_av500_> also i would not use a windows user space with linux kernel Feb 01 18:59:40 mru, people close their source to cover up their use of memcpy Feb 01 19:00:38 I refrained from replying something to that effect Feb 01 19:23:08 Does anybody make a single USB dongle that does both WiFi and Bluetooth? Feb 01 20:16:35 umm, thunderstorm Feb 01 20:18:30 thunderstruck? Feb 01 20:19:34 umm, downpoor Feb 01 20:20:58 -10C, snow. Feb 01 20:22:10 the pixel qi screens look beautiful. Feb 01 20:23:01 * LetoThe2nd only loves dry deserts. kind of. Feb 01 20:23:39 is there any mass produced consumer electronic gadget with a pixel qi display yet? Feb 01 20:23:52 LetoThe2nd: real estate is really cheap in sahara. Feb 01 20:24:21 jay6981: http://www.pixelqi.com/products Feb 01 20:25:21 nothing I could buy at an electronics store here like Fry's though right? Feb 01 20:28:09 a sunbook. Feb 01 20:28:36 if they do orders. Feb 01 20:28:50 <_av500_> didnt theadam have that? Feb 01 20:28:54 <_av500_> the Adam Feb 01 20:29:14 the adam did, and it turned out to be a bit of a joke iirc Feb 01 20:29:31 <_av500_> http://www.notionink.com/features.php Feb 01 20:29:35 i just wonder why it's not adopted more in consumer electronics Feb 01 20:30:07 <_av500_> $$ Feb 01 20:30:22 jay6981: guess it takes time to adopt. + economics of scale-issues. Feb 01 20:31:02 running a fab for a day is hideously expensive/unit. Feb 01 20:38:59 _av500_: it shouldn't be judged by one bad application. Feb 01 20:39:17 <_av500_> i judge nothing Feb 01 20:39:17 XorA: how's tokyo hotel life? Feb 01 20:39:28 <_av500_> better than on CD Feb 01 20:39:53 _av500_: sorry, that was meant for jay6981. Feb 01 20:40:18 I agree. I'd just like to see it on something polished. Feb 01 20:40:43 <_av500_> put it on a mirror next to a line of coke Feb 01 20:40:50 jay6981: wait for the LodeStar(TM) :D Feb 01 20:43:29 Color Saturation T      40% NTSC Feb 01 20:43:42 NTSC isn't exactly a wide gamut right? 40% of that isn't very impressive Feb 01 20:44:50 that's in transmissive mode? Feb 01 20:45:00 yes, from the link you posted Feb 01 20:45:09 i don't think there's any color in reflective mode Feb 01 20:46:27 yes. Feb 01 20:47:26 its main selling point is low power consumption and sunlight readability. Feb 01 20:48:30 crucial features in an outdoors/battery-driven device. Feb 01 20:51:12 and wide viewing angle. it has all that. Feb 01 20:51:55 right… which is why i find it odd the technology hasn't been more widely adopted yet Feb 01 20:52:11 <_av500_> people like saturated colors Feb 01 20:52:25 <_av500_> not many tablets sold in outdoor markets Feb 01 20:52:43 seems like it would be a good replacement for kindle e-ink Feb 01 20:54:07 _av500_: http://opencpn.org/sites/default/files/oc210.gif isn't very colour demanding. Feb 01 20:54:56 like that old TV show… I want to believe Feb 01 21:00:15 x-files? Feb 01 21:00:38 yeah Feb 01 21:03:54 clandestine social realism. 8) Feb 01 21:04:13 http://www.ruggedpcreview.com/3_notebooks_clover_systems_sunbook.html gives it good marks, sort of. Feb 01 21:07:35 in most situations, the choice between seeing a screen in b/w or seeing nothing at all isn't really a match. Feb 01 21:11:38 i'll go with b&w Feb 01 21:12:49 djlewis: right. 8) Feb 01 21:14:31 beats a brail screen when I dont know brail :( Feb 01 21:15:14 sea maps are pretty b/w except for red/green sector lights (which aren't much visible at day anyway). Feb 01 21:18:58 * etheretic bops snaakje Feb 01 21:20:13 * snaakje is annoyingly busy with things he doesn't want to be busy with at this time of nigt. Feb 01 21:24:45 "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (Douglas Adams) 8) Feb 01 21:27:50 sounds like the makings of a good steven speilberg movie Feb 01 21:28:07 snaakje: wondered if you a) have had a peek at the pixel qi tech, and b) found it interesting as the lincruiser (or whatever) screen. maybe with gorilla glass in front of it. Feb 01 21:33:05 djlewis: 'merkins meddling with/interpreting st. adams' stuff has so far been an unmitigated flop. Feb 01 21:33:57 hmmm Feb 01 21:34:29 at least they made trillian kinda hot Feb 01 21:34:34 oh oh - still not friday. Feb 01 21:34:45 stupid broken time machines Feb 01 21:39:03 is it in warranty? Feb 01 21:40:20 * etheretic wouldn't grow an extra arm for m(r)s. Deschanel, but wouldn't hesitate a nanosecond growing one for m(r)s. Dickinson Feb 01 21:42:46 I won't be online much on friday, so we need to get started early Feb 01 21:43:37 mru: when are you arriving in north america? Feb 01 21:43:55 sunday Feb 01 21:44:13 staying for 2 weeks? Feb 01 21:44:17 yeah Feb 01 21:44:50 you are staying at the officially recommended hotel, right? Feb 01 21:44:56 yes Feb 01 21:45:18 ds2: provided you get that time machine of yours fixed. Feb 01 21:45:45 fixing that old tardis can be a challenge Feb 01 21:50:50 helps when it breaks down in the right time period for a suitable parts place. Feb 01 21:51:36 sticking to hhgttg, giving it a nice hot cup of tea should help. Feb 01 21:52:09 wouldn't grow an extra arm? that's a metaphor i'm not familiar with Feb 01 21:52:32 multicore? Feb 01 22:03:21 jay6981: I guess he's referring to zaphod's third arm Feb 01 22:10:36 mru: aye. Feb 01 22:11:04 etheretic: I agree the film sucks btw Feb 01 22:11:06 how much power does th bb use, in watts? Feb 01 22:11:23 hi Feb 01 22:11:29 mru: yes. Feb 01 22:13:13 wish to calculate how much power the nav device would use. screen+mb+gps+ais shouldn't be much more than 10-15W. Feb 01 22:15:08 I have a strange problem, may be some guru can suggest me a solution! I have been running a real time patched kernel3.2-rt10. When I am running the cyclictest the max latencies is in the order of milliseconds even without noload. Any body have a clue Feb 01 22:17:59 surprise, linux doesn't have bounded latencies Feb 01 22:18:43 if you must have realtime guarantees and linux on the same cpu, run linux under a realtime hypervisor Feb 01 22:20:27 but isn't real time patch supposed to do this? Feb 01 22:20:30 prehaps, RTAI Feb 01 22:20:32 :) Feb 01 22:20:56 I wouldn't depend on anything claiming to turn linux into a proper realtime system Feb 01 22:22:04 then a stupid question! whats the difference between RTAI and RT patch Feb 01 22:22:05 depends on your definition of realtime Feb 01 22:23:32 i am benchmarking the realtime behaviour using cyclictest Feb 01 22:23:50 that will actually tell you nothing at all Feb 01 22:24:11 except that the max latency is at least as high as the maximum you observed Feb 01 22:26:38 yep, true, but the thing is my firend run the same patch on his machine (debian) which has the max latency of ~50us but i have (ubuntu) about 20ms Feb 01 22:27:48 so he's luckier than you Feb 01 22:28:56 yep :D Feb 01 22:30:08 do you think the distrubation can be the cause? Feb 01 22:39:12 maybe he could use http://sourceforge.net/projects/art-linux/ Feb 01 22:42:34 I have created a image from angstrom/narcissus and it boots fine. The problem surges when i try to replace the angstrom/narcissus image with a image that i myself have compiled Feb 01 22:42:59 i believe here is where the error occurs Feb 01 22:43:01 [ 9.865234] usb 1-2.4: New USB device found, idVendor=05e3, idProduct=0608 [ 9.872192] usb 1-2.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumbe0 [ 9.879608] usb 1-2.4: Product: USB2.0 Hub [ 9.884674] hub 1-2.4:1.0: USB hub found [ 9.889068] hub 1-2.4:1.0: 4 ports detected Please wait: booting... Starting udev WARNING: -e needs -E or -F Remounting root file system... [ 16.100921] mmcblk0: error -110 transferring Feb 01 22:43:03 cheers guys, I'm off to CA to build this spectrograph! Feb 01 22:43:53 spacecolonyone: good luck in lalaland. Feb 01 22:46:51 * _av500_ feels a distrubance in the force Feb 01 22:47:05 * djlewis hates when that happens Feb 01 22:52:30 oh, but to hate will draw me to the negative side of the force... arrgh! Feb 01 22:58:23 /me tosses djlewis a lightsabre Feb 01 22:59:05 now where did that space come from? Feb 01 22:59:31 q - how much power does th bb use, in watts? Feb 01 22:59:49 it's around 250mw no? Feb 01 23:00:15 =1/4th W? Feb 01 23:01:14 woo. boxen may be <10W!!! Feb 01 23:03:09 page 29 of the XMsrm has some numbers Feb 01 23:13:54 What might be causing my root filesystem to all of a sudden become a “read-only filesystem” when I copy my compiled kernel instead of using the default Narcissus/angstrom? Feb 01 23:15:22 irc this happening before but perhaps the younger minds with better memories can respond . .. Feb 01 23:15:40 any clues in dmesg? Feb 01 23:16:27 yes....but i dont know how to decipher them. Feb 01 23:16:31 [ 932.454010] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 2240404 [ 932.459930] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 2240412 [ 932.465881] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 2240420 [ 932.471832] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 2240428 [ 932.477783] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 2240436 [ 932.483734] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 2240444 [ 932.489685] end_request: I/O error Feb 01 23:18:07 anything from closer to the time it was mounted? usually it'll say something about why it mounted it read only Feb 01 23:18:31 [ 9.872192] usb 1-2.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0 [ 9.879608] usb 1-2.4: Product: USB2.0 Hub [ 9.884674] hub 1-2.4:1.0: USB hub found [ 9.889068] hub 1-2.4:1.0: 4 ports detected [ 16.100921] mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data, sector 2087484, nr 8, card status 0xc00 [ 16.109893] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 2087485 [ 16.115844] Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0p2, logic Feb 01 23:18:38 ??? Feb 01 23:18:43 that got all scrambled Feb 01 23:19:17 i blieve here is where the errors start Feb 01 23:19:38 looks pretty unhappy with your card for some reason… there's been some talk here about mmc driver patches and such recently Feb 01 23:19:52 really Feb 01 23:20:00 ?? Feb 01 23:20:05 wow Feb 01 23:20:05 perhaps the prebuilt kernel has patches and the one you made doesn't Feb 01 23:20:20 is it beagleboard or bone? Feb 01 23:20:27 beagleboard Feb 01 23:20:29 beagleboard xm Feb 01 23:20:56 did you compile vanilla kernel? Feb 01 23:24:02 No. I just went to the narcissus/angstrom website and created the most simplest kernel possible. The only check mark that I checked was Platform specific packages → Texas Instruments OMAP3x/AM3x family → Bootloader Files (x-load/u-boot/scripts) Feb 01 23:24:47 I checked this so that narcissus/angstrom could provide me with uboot, MLO, and uboot Feb 01 23:25:25 uImage....sorry Feb 01 23:25:41 I checked this so that narcissus/angstrom could provide me with uboot, MLO, and uImage Feb 01 23:26:11 wait Feb 01 23:26:12 sorry Feb 01 23:26:20 i misread your question Feb 01 23:27:49 I went to a website which provided a git repository, I cloned the repository and then compiled it. To be sincere I dont know which kernel it is. Is there a command that I can execute that can reveal me that....like umage maybe? Feb 01 23:28:39 Linux beagleboard 2.6.32-usbsniffer #3 PREEMPT Wed Feb 1 16:13:27 CST 2012 armv7l unknown Feb 01 23:30:17 any ideas Feb 02 00:05:41 mandy: git describe Feb 02 00:22:29 git log might be interesting too Feb 02 02:15:11 If I'm in ubuntu and use apt-get to install opencv, will it automatically get me an arm version? Feb 02 02:15:44 I'm going to guess no. Feb 02 02:24:09 if your running ubuntu on arm, i'd expect it to install an arm version of whatever package you "apt-get"... Feb 02 02:24:51 but that's not what happens on other OS's... why should ubuntu install arm versions? Feb 02 02:25:09 afterall, other OS's use a f'ed GUI, Ubuntu followed through with an f'ed GUI Feb 02 02:26:43 on fedora arm, if i run yum, i'll get arm packages.. Feb 02 02:27:24 what a magic ;) Feb 02 02:28:21 it's like they saw in the future... Feb 02 02:28:30 but fedora doesn't try to make people use f'ed GUI's Feb 02 02:28:43 it doesn't try, it succeeds Feb 02 02:28:45 Ubuntu is not one. Feb 02 02:28:46 ;) Feb 02 02:29:02 ds2, agree 100% on the f'ed gui.. ;) Feb 02 02:29:27 every version of gnome after 1.4 was f'ed, and every version of kde Feb 02 02:29:36 gnome before 1.4 was just sick and twisted Feb 02 02:29:48 but it is not the One f'ed Feb 02 02:29:53 I like kde Feb 02 02:30:00 it's sad, i actually enjoy kde 4 now... Feb 02 02:30:09 so what isn't f'ed? Feb 02 02:30:13 twm? Feb 02 02:30:30 twm is primitive, and I wouldn't want to use it Feb 02 02:30:34 but no, it's not f'ed Feb 02 02:31:08 I'll take twm over most other ones Feb 02 02:56:30 hmm, arm v8-a **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 02 02:59:57 2012