**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 08 02:59:59 2012 Mar 08 03:00:18 google is completely useless Mar 08 03:01:12 the internet is completely useless Mar 08 03:02:12 their results has been crap for months if not years Mar 08 03:02:22 Bing! Mar 08 03:02:40 bing has been getting better Mar 08 05:00:03 Shot in the dark: is anyone here in the vicinity of Portland, OR/the pacific northwest Mar 08 05:00:06 ? Mar 08 05:04:18 very likely Mar 08 05:08:00 I have a non-responding BeagleBoard (likely hardware) and a tight project schedule, and am looking for one to borrow/rent :/ Mar 08 05:08:29 My other option being just ordering another one next-day shipping for more money than I really want to spend right now Mar 08 05:08:58 (Troubleshooting: red light blinks when I plug it in, D5 is solid, nothing else happens, including serial port) Mar 08 05:09:02 * fiveofoh goes to check voltages Mar 08 05:17:01 av500 can you connect to http://mypals.info for me? Mar 08 05:17:42 see if it works Mar 08 05:17:42 its a new php site for sharing ogg files that people make Mar 08 05:20:21 hi Mar 08 05:20:45 http://mypals.info Mar 08 06:21:16 <_av500_> works for me, but i'd rather not Mar 08 06:50:30 heh jesus radio show? Mar 08 07:06:56 how it is 11p already?.. Mar 08 07:11:38 <_av500_> mranostay: ask for the root password and change your time zone... Mar 08 07:11:49 mranostay: Where in PST are you? Mar 08 07:11:56 * fiveofoh is in Portland, OR Mar 08 07:13:05 fiveofoh: San Jose area Mar 08 07:22:08 eyyo Mar 08 07:22:16 I'm moving to palo alto!!! Mar 08 07:24:15 TheAlphaNerd: from where? Mar 08 07:26:50 toronto Mar 08 07:28:52 job or get accepted to Stanford? Mar 08 07:29:14 grad school at stanford!!! Mar 08 07:33:52 CS i assume? Mar 08 07:36:17 is Stanford any good? Mar 08 07:36:25 not CS Mar 08 07:36:27 MA MST Mar 08 07:36:31 music science and technology Mar 08 07:36:34 doing research at ccrma Mar 08 07:36:42 center for computer research in music and acoustics Mar 08 07:37:06 <_av500_> so how many bits and khz do YOU think we need? :) Mar 08 07:38:05 heh Mar 08 07:41:54 lol Mar 08 07:42:08 we need alsa mixer working perfectly out of the box Mar 08 07:42:16 hoever number of bitz or khz it takes Mar 08 07:42:18 then improve it Mar 08 07:42:20 Agile :D Mar 08 07:43:42 TheAlphaNerd: what are you smoking? :) Mar 08 07:43:49 nothing of course Mar 08 07:43:50 :D Mar 08 07:44:01 now why would you asl that :( Mar 08 07:44:56 * mranostay thinks TheAlphaNerd is too new to irc to know the trolls of this channel Mar 08 07:45:14 I'm 12 Mar 08 07:45:16 what's a troll? Mar 08 07:46:08 like this ? http://i.imgur.com/dsZVH.jpg Mar 08 07:49:24 TheAlphaNerd: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/5525576095/in/photostream Mar 08 07:49:41 why is the neck beard shaved then? Mar 08 07:49:50 he bought the t-shirt at hot topic fo show Mar 08 07:51:32 I never understood neckbeards Mar 08 07:51:36 way to itchy Mar 08 07:51:59 it just happens for me Mar 08 07:52:06 and the cheeks don't grow in so pretty Mar 08 07:52:09 need to compensate Mar 08 07:53:18 TheAlphaNerd: you are 12.. you shouldn't have a real beard :) Mar 08 07:53:28 hormones Mar 08 07:53:31 koen: where you get that shirt from? Mar 08 08:10:50 * mranostay see panto Mar 08 08:10:54 * mranostay runs away Mar 08 08:11:03 mranostay: splitreason.com Mar 08 08:11:25 mranostay: it's merch from the zeropunctuation show Mar 08 08:11:43 howdy Mar 08 08:11:55 nice shirt Mar 08 08:12:06 it comes with the raspberry, right? Mar 08 08:31:43 am I being really stupid but there must be some sort of protection against usb disconnect on the beaglebone... it seems that pretty much every time I remove power my beaglebone will then never get recognized by pc again until I do a full wipe.. Mar 08 08:32:00 this makes it pretty much unsuable, it can't be this fragile, surely I am missing something Mar 08 08:33:23 blehbleh go to india and force the kernel-devs to fix reinserting for usb Mar 08 08:33:56 I am guessing that is lame sarcasm? Mar 08 08:34:29 but is it true that unless i do a formal "shutdown now" from the console before removing power.. that my beaglebone is going to be corrupted Mar 08 08:35:40 again its a bug in the kernel Mar 08 08:35:52 and now you know why usb suckz Mar 08 08:36:03 yeah I do... hmm Mar 08 08:36:35 I never had so many failures with any other bus Mar 08 08:37:11 but itmakes the device almost unusable.. Mar 08 08:37:29 dont tell me Mar 08 08:37:42 like my computer accidentally shut down while I was doing long updates on the BB and when I came back bye bye BB Mar 08 08:38:42 is this going to be fixed on the BB side? Mar 08 08:39:04 woglinde: not this usb Mar 08 08:39:18 i think he talks about the mini usb to the pc Mar 08 08:39:29 yeah thats what I mean Mar 08 08:39:32 av500 that is not broken? Mar 08 08:39:49 but looks like Mar 08 08:39:50 everything is broken Mar 08 08:39:59 thats for sure Mar 08 08:40:10 lets see how thunderbolt will workout Mar 08 08:40:17 if I am using the mini usb as my power source to BB, whenever I remove it unexpectedly without doing a formal shutdown now.. the BB just dies never to return unless I reformat it Mar 08 08:40:31 I bet av500 has a prototype with it Mar 08 08:40:31 that is strange Mar 08 08:41:12 wrong fs? Mar 08 08:41:51 woglinde, isn't thunderbolt an Intel design? Mar 08 08:41:55 just like USB? Mar 08 08:41:57 wrong fs? Mar 08 08:42:05 wanna take a guess how it's going to turn up? Mar 08 08:42:24 panto wasnt pci intel too? Mar 08 08:42:32 and this works very well Mar 08 08:43:08 woglinde, I don't particularly thing so, especially compared with other standards that were around at the same time Mar 08 08:43:20 Intel has a knack of overcomplicating things Mar 08 08:43:46 blehbleh: I removed power hundred of times, never got a corruption Mar 08 08:44:04 but it was fast, worked OK, and available cheaply Mar 08 08:44:08 so it won Mar 08 08:44:23 what operating system? and how did you format your SD? Mar 08 08:44:45 blehbleh: linux, angstrom Mar 08 08:44:58 I just copied in the most recent angstrom image Mar 08 08:45:30 i am using a different sd to the default one, but I formatted it to FAT and then copied the image on Mar 08 08:45:34 it all works except this Mar 08 08:45:43 does it happen with the default? Mar 08 08:45:46 maybe if I format it in ubuntu Mar 08 08:45:48 yes Mar 08 08:45:54 im running angstrom Mar 08 08:46:20 whenever i disconnect, windows will never recognise it again.. and the serial comms will never boot up.. i am assuming corrpution Mar 08 08:46:39 uhm... I'd assume that windows doesn't work... Mar 08 08:47:40 right okay I am gonna try it in ubuntu.. i need to use windows for work though:( Mar 08 08:48:03 I'd rather change workplace Mar 08 08:48:52 g2g xx Mar 08 08:49:00 bye Mar 08 08:49:11 blehbleh fat? Mar 08 08:49:14 no wonder Mar 08 09:40:58 woglinde: at least fat can be fixed with hexedit :) Mar 08 09:44:09 If you can't fix your Partition-table/FAT/MLO with hex-edit you're not an embedded developer? Mar 08 09:45:38 hm Mar 08 09:45:40 okay Mar 08 09:45:46 so I am not one Mar 08 10:14:11 hi, im super-new with the beaglebone and I just want to get the 'hello world' to run on the board via CCSv5. For some reason I cant get the debug to work. I've been reading through the 'getting started' alot but im still stuck Mar 08 10:15:15 the 'bbone-target-config.ccxml' launches successfully and im able to connect to the device Mar 08 10:57:12 koen: hubduino? http://www.ti.com/product/tusb2136 Mar 08 11:00:21 $3 dollar 8052 board? Mar 08 11:00:52 it's a race to the bottom Mar 08 11:00:58 what about 0.1¢ cardboard? Mar 08 11:01:34 0.0€ invisible-board Mar 08 11:01:51 dm8tbr: you have to add RS and farnell handling costs Mar 08 11:02:33 av500: this one is so thin, it could be even emailed! ;) Mar 08 11:03:01 av500 knows inkscape, so we should design a 'cardboard' Mar 08 11:03:16 and market it as "just like the pi it won't run ubuntu" Mar 08 11:03:19 DIE 8052 DIEDIEDIE Mar 08 11:03:22 * LetoThe2nd must kill Mar 08 11:03:31 LetoThe2nd: ruhig brauner Mar 08 11:03:38 hier, leckerli Mar 08 11:03:43 hrhrhr Mar 08 11:03:50 * ogra_ grins Mar 08 11:04:26 yeah, nearly time for lünch Mar 08 11:04:26 * dm8tbr flushes down his leckerli with some more caffeinated brown hot fluid Mar 08 11:04:48 * dm8tbr already lynched today Mar 08 11:07:23 notice: my customers and collegues don't like blind guardian. whenever i put on my headphones, the telephone rings. Mar 08 11:07:50 shame on them! Mar 08 11:07:56 * av500 takes LetoThe2nd by the chain and leads him back to his holding pen Mar 08 11:09:48 * LetoThe2nd would prefer being led to free lunch Mar 08 11:10:20 da hängt ne rinderhälfte.... Mar 08 11:11:25 what no live cow? Mar 08 11:12:06 speaking of which, had some really good slice of dead, roasted, black angus yesterday Mar 08 11:39:01 I'm attempting to get a plain HelloWorld.c to build, download, and debug using CCS and the beaglebone's builtin JTAG. Has anyone done this? This page (http://beagleboard.org/static/beaglebone/latest/Docs/ccs-jtag-simple.htm) has a nice intro up to a point, but seems to end abruptly. Mar 08 11:54:06 thos37, why would you need to do that? Mar 08 11:54:16 JTAG is for kernel & module debugging mostly Mar 08 11:54:26 because he can Mar 08 11:54:33 just copy the binary over and run it under gdbserver Mar 08 11:54:44 dunno seems like overkill to me Mar 08 11:54:46 jtag is for boot loader debugging mostly Mar 08 11:55:02 it helps with randomly hanging kernels too Mar 08 11:55:03 you know, one click to download and debug is pretty cool ;) Mar 08 11:55:20 * panto shrugs Mar 08 11:55:36 might be useful if printk doesn't work Mar 08 11:55:54 and very early debugging/VM problems Mar 08 11:56:39 how do you move your binary to the device? Is it automated at all? Mar 08 11:57:30 * av500 uses cp Mar 08 11:57:36 or adb push Mar 08 11:58:21 * koen orders 32GB of ram to upgrade his workstation Mar 08 11:58:38 never thought 16GB wouldn't be enough so soon Mar 08 11:58:55 damn VMs Mar 08 11:59:23 Voluptuous Memory Mar 08 12:08:48 panto, or because it's there Mar 08 12:09:09 "single cable debug" Mar 08 12:12:49 mdp, meh :) Mar 08 12:13:04 (â„¢) Mar 08 12:22:06 panto, weren't you one of the victims at Mentor that had to work on the kernel debug agent garbage? Mar 08 12:22:26 yes, I have done that :) Mar 08 12:22:30 that's why I don't like it Mar 08 12:22:54 cause it 'kinda works' Mar 08 12:23:00 I just wanted to poke a bit on that :) Mar 08 12:44:30 hi crofton Mar 08 12:59:56 gm Mar 08 13:13:14 hey Crofton Mar 08 13:13:28 hey Mar 08 13:13:39 gotta shut down, need to save battery Mar 08 14:11:07 i'm using a debian distribution on my beaglebone and now i'm trying to use the UART interface in a C program. (/dev/ttyO1) For using the interface i added S:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 ttyO1 in /etc/inittab. But the UART interface dosen't react. Mar 08 14:13:07 that line should bring up a terminal, not make it usable from c... rather the contrary, it will become ovvupied. Mar 08 14:15:17 kate__, so you're trying to use a uart thats routed to the headers from c? Mar 08 14:15:44 High everybody, has someone experience setting a mt9v113 cam into operation with BB-XM? Mar 08 14:23:43 LetoThe2nd: yes but the simplest command cat example.txt > /dev/ttyO1 doesn't go Mar 08 14:23:58 i tried to send some strings to my pc Mar 08 14:24:09 kate__, checked pinmux? Mar 08 14:24:24 where can i find the pinmux in debian Mar 08 14:24:36 else, you will happily write into the uart, but it won't make it to the pins. Mar 08 14:24:40 #debian most likely Mar 08 14:24:50 that's where you go for debian support Mar 08 14:25:16 no idea how you check pinmuxing there. Mar 08 14:26:12 you have to mount a debugfs to get the /sys files for setting the pinmux Mar 08 14:27:29 bones_was_here: thanks i try this Mar 08 14:28:54 bones_was_here: what happens if you mount debugfs outside /sys? Mar 08 14:29:00 do you still get /sys entries? Mar 08 14:29:39 probably not, but i didnt try Mar 08 14:29:51 koen: no trolling! Mar 08 14:30:00 live fast, troll hard. Mar 08 14:34:15 looking for a magsafe/magnetic power type of adapter for begle board so it can attach easily - anyone have any suggestions? Mar 08 14:34:53 good (time of day) everyone Mar 08 14:46:33 funkster: buy a macbook and cut of the parts you need Mar 08 14:47:13 that wouldn't be cost effective - will looking into getting the parts alone, tho Mar 08 14:47:28 or another type of magnetic type power Mar 08 14:56:15 OMG http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/781 Mar 08 14:59:02 hah Mar 08 14:59:04 im never going to get any pie Mar 08 14:59:15 I wonder how they'll handle RMAs Mar 08 14:59:23 koen, hehe Mar 08 14:59:30 looks like they want you to solder your own jack Mar 08 14:59:46 * smplman goes and talks to the sparkfun guys Mar 08 15:00:20 substitution in our "lowest bidder" factory Mar 08 15:00:58 i wish the beagle xm supported audio over hdmi, oh well Mar 08 15:01:20 mdp: we weren't allowed to make "lowest bidder" jokes to police officers during body armour fitting Mar 08 15:03:32 hehe..I can imagine Mar 08 15:04:01 my LEO friend takes his body armour seriously Mar 08 15:04:17 you have a friend in low earth orbit? Mar 08 15:05:30 Crofton: Prost! Mar 08 15:05:33 tbh, he should be there Mar 08 15:06:19 I am in your lecture hall, stealing your Joules Mar 08 15:06:29 not mine Mar 08 15:06:49 you are at K.I.T.T. Mar 08 15:06:54 yeah Mar 08 15:07:16 av500, anfängerfehler @ RPi ;) Mar 08 15:07:27 I studied at South Hessian Institute of Technology Mar 08 15:07:37 a fine acronym Mar 08 15:07:58 uni did not want to adopt it..... Mar 08 15:08:24 hmm, I need to pay attention Mar 08 15:08:38 waitress approaching? Mar 08 15:08:43 this talk is partly about soemthing I worked on a number of years ago Mar 08 15:08:49 no Mar 08 15:09:11 although radio nerds seem to attract a slightly more integrated crowd than linux nerds Mar 08 15:09:12 put slides on pastebin Mar 08 15:10:53 http://www.sandra.aero/ Mar 08 15:11:51 hmm, layer cake Mar 08 15:11:54 Crofton: isn't the US working on something similar? Mar 08 15:12:09 of course Mar 08 15:12:14 oh dear Mar 08 15:12:16 NIH(tm) Mar 08 15:12:20 Crofton: my old uni is involved with that Mar 08 15:12:36 koen: its EU money, everybody is involved Mar 08 15:12:49 :D Mar 08 15:13:37 Crofton: how much is 2GB/month on sandra? cheaper than on NewIPAD? Mar 08 15:23:27 rofl Mar 08 15:23:45 one of hte professors just suggested he was mad for using tte SCA Mar 08 15:44:20 bones_was_here: thank you very much it works. but now i have a question in my omap_mux directory i only have uart0 and uart1 for configureing where are the other uart's Mar 08 16:05:43 kate123, the files in omap_mux are named according to their Mode0 Mar 08 16:06:24 kate123, the other uarts are not on the mode0 of the pin Mar 08 16:20:29 jsabeaudry: thanks i understand now Mar 08 16:22:56 kate123, Here is that I use: grep -H "uart2_txd" /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/* Mar 08 16:24:12 Hello! I come from an Arduino background, where I (sometimes) poll input pins on a tight loop (only sometimes using interrupts). I'm doing that in python, and I noticed that top shows 99% CPU usage for that script. Does this indicate that I should stay away from polling? Mar 08 16:24:29 yes Mar 08 16:24:34 Here's my code: https://gist.github.com/1986926 Mar 08 16:24:40 well, depends if you need the cpu for anything else Mar 08 16:24:49 av500: that's what I figured Mar 08 16:24:50 same as on your arduiono Mar 08 16:26:29 How do you attach an interrupt, is there a good example out there? Mar 08 16:27:24 or, broadly, what approach is taken using interrupts with sysfs gpio? Mar 08 16:29:28 hello all Mar 08 16:31:15 I've got a question related to BBrevC4 - I tried to compile u-boot but it hangs right after "I2C: ready" message at the console. Mar 08 16:34:01 funkster: http://littlebits.cc/branch Mar 08 16:35:30 av500: thast awesome - looking to make a project attached to door, so it can open/close Mar 08 16:36:35 I cam across that just now Mar 08 16:36:37 came Mar 08 16:37:30 great! Mar 08 16:37:36 thanks a lot. Mar 08 16:41:22 thats the true lego for adults ? Mar 08 16:44:50 well, $14 for a switch is a bit expensive Mar 08 16:45:02 I'd like to buy only the connectors Mar 08 16:45:11 probably they are the expensive parts :) Mar 08 16:45:22 * ogra_ was about to say that Mar 08 16:48:32 could someone tell me what am I doing wrong? I try to build u-boot from http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation . After cross-compilation using arm-none-eabi (CodeSourceryLite), the u-boot.bin is loaded but stops right after "I2C: ready" message on serial. Mar 08 16:49:41 xtec: sounds like uboot is fine but you dont have a boot script to boot your kernel Mar 08 16:49:57 You mean MLO (x-loader)? Mar 08 16:50:11 xtec: yes, my bad Mar 08 16:51:04 xtec, that git repo, hasn't been updated since june 03, 2010.. you might be just better off building u-boot directly from u-boot git server.. Mar 08 17:01:09 I grabbed the "latest" one. In fact I'm following only the default config (omap3_beagle_config) - with that I get only: Mar 08 17:01:19 Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.2 (Feb 19 2009 - 12:01:24) Mar 08 17:01:26 Reading boot sector Mar 08 17:01:34 Loading u-boot.bin from mmc Mar 08 17:01:37 and that's it. Mar 08 17:01:54 xtec, X-Loader, has been replaced by u-boot's SPL... Mar 08 17:02:25 do you have u-boot.bin on there? Mar 08 17:03:05 yes, I uploaded it on fat partition of mmc. Mar 08 17:03:11 (u-boot.bin) Mar 08 17:03:59 that I2C: ready message usually occurs while u-boot is probing the i2c bus for external hardware.. so he is in the u-boot.bin... but i don't remember which patch was needed to fix his current problem.. Mar 08 17:04:13 but it was fixed in upstream u-boot.. Mar 08 17:05:38 right now it's the only file (u-boot.bin) I have on this partition. Mar 08 17:06:06 there's no MLO? Mar 08 17:06:14 probally in nand.. ;) Mar 08 17:06:22 ah Mar 08 17:06:27 nand... lovely Mar 08 17:07:00 boot from nand works as it should - I tried to test the u-boot before I would flash the nand. Mar 08 17:07:08 we never did have a proper burial for X-Loader Mar 08 17:07:31 when did it die? Mar 08 17:07:53 basicly with the v2011.12 u-boot release.. for most devices.. Mar 08 17:08:21 nice Mar 08 17:09:18 xtec, basicly you have two problems.. Ancient MLO in nand, and your building u-boot from an old tree.. Which board do you have? Mar 08 17:09:34 BeagleBoard C4 Mar 08 17:09:41 koen: Can you approve me to the google beagleboar forum? Thx. Mar 08 17:10:17 (red one) Mar 08 17:11:10 hello guys i have a question i am trying to connect a beagleboard-xm with a lilliput monitor 569GL-50NP/HO/Y which has hdmi Mar 08 17:11:13 xtec, if you want to just update it to the latest, follow the directions on this page, with the files located there: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ Mar 08 17:11:56 (there's a big list of u-boot instructions that will walk you thru it..) Mar 08 17:12:04 i changed the refresh rate and resolution at the uEnv.txt but still i dont have a signal Mar 08 17:13:04 on my big hdmi monitor is working fine Mar 08 17:13:42 rcn-ee, howdy - used your instructions from http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone today. worked pretty well basically, but there are some typos and inaccuracies. care for some roundup on what i found, or rather not? Mar 08 17:14:53 yeah LetoThe2nd, i haven't mastered the art of commit changes to the upstream git repo and "any" wiki's at the same time.. ;) I'm working a few musb patches so will need to bump the build numbers on that wiki to today. . ;) Mar 08 17:16:21 but i'll gladly take any fixes and push them. .;) i'm just trying to keep that site as simple as possible.. Mar 08 17:17:45 rcn-ee, no worries, just a fix things i noticed. not much of a showstopper for experienced users after all, but maybe for newbies. Mar 08 17:19:12 I'll gladly take those too... Kinda have the experienced "fish eyes", so it's easy to miss something for newbies.. Mar 08 17:21:48 rcn-ee, ok, will pour everything i noticed into some text tonight - where to dispose that? Mar 08 17:22:57 best place, any of the emails. ;) i think my digikey one is on there, otherwise my gmail one works fine too.. Mar 08 17:23:09 rcn-ee, ok. Mar 08 17:24:57 perfectly :( I bricked this. Mar 08 17:25:44 silly me - I've uploaded u-boot.bin not the u-boot.img file and flashed it into the nand. Mar 08 17:26:02 you cant brick a beagle Mar 08 17:26:07 now I have: Mar 08 17:26:09 U-Boot SPL 2011.12-00010-ga3eb89c (Jan 29 2012 - 14:53:43) Mar 08 17:26:10 that won't brick a board, you can still recover Mar 08 17:26:14 Texas Instruments Revision detection unimplemented Mar 08 17:26:19 Error: Bad compare! failed Mar 08 17:26:25 well, you can, but that involves spilling coffee over it or so Mar 08 17:26:27 last one repeated number of times Mar 08 17:26:28 ogra_: well, unless you bathe with it Mar 08 17:26:29 xtec, just stick the u-boot.img on sd card.. Mar 08 17:26:41 mdp, indeed Mar 08 17:26:49 worst case, you just put both the MLO and u-boot.img and hold the user button.. Mar 08 17:27:36 rcn-ee, the page you mentioned about u-boot and MLO, there are 3 MLO files. Mar 08 17:28:10 and they are the exact same file.. Angstrom's build system just symlinks them to tag version info.. Mar 08 17:28:27 ic Mar 08 17:33:23 strange, just like there is no difference I press "USER" or not, can all this be dependen on the power supply? (Im supplying it via USB-OTG) Mar 08 17:33:46 I even got u-boot.img from this Angstrom distribution mentioned Mar 08 17:35:15 then you may need to reformat the sd correctly... with the MLO and u-boot.img in the fat partition, when holding down the user button (then appyling power) it should boot of the sd card.. Mar 08 17:38:31 xtec, here's a hint on my wiki page.. http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Partition_SD_Card (just the 4 commands listed is the minimal you'd need to setup the sd card..) Mar 08 17:56:28 rcn-ee: do you know why the stock ubuntu precise images boot to initramfs at the moment? Mar 08 17:56:46 rcn-ee: on an xm Mar 08 17:57:16 smplman, that would occur if it didn't find the mmc card.. Which image (from what server, rcn-ee.net or ubuntu.com?) Mar 08 17:57:19 Ok, I don't know what was wrong on my SD setup but reformated it once again step-by step and I booted up successfuly. Mar 08 17:57:44 rcn-ee: your demo images boot fine, its the ubuntu.com one Mar 08 17:58:38 rcn-ee: also, do you have a script that builds and copies a cross compiled kernel to a sdcard? Mar 08 17:58:51 i wonder what happened.. what's the name of that one.. i'll download it and try it on my xm, then submit some bug reports.. Mar 08 17:59:10 smplman: What issues are you seeing? Mar 08 17:59:31 GrueMaster: on which image? Mar 08 17:59:38 Ubuntu. Mar 08 17:59:49 smplman, this one: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/stable-kernel/blob/master/tools/load_uImage.sh it's very much tied to my cross script, but you can tweak it for anything really.. Mar 08 17:59:50 I'm the ubuntu arm QA guy. Mar 08 18:00:13 GrueMaster: ahh, precise beta 1 Mar 08 18:00:16 smplman, the broken precise image, what was the file name.. Mar 08 18:00:58 rcn-ee: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/beta-1/ubuntu-12.04-beta1-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap.img.gz Mar 08 18:01:24 It should boot to initrd and run a few scripts to resize the rootfs, enable oem-config, and a few other steps prior to rebooting. Mar 08 18:01:24 downloading.. ;) will check it out too.. Mar 08 18:01:38 rcn-ee: yea your scripts are awesome Mar 08 18:02:05 GrueMaster: thats when it fails, resizing rootfs then drops to initramfs Mar 08 18:02:10 Are you modifying the image? Mar 08 18:02:15 negative Mar 08 18:02:17 thanks, but it's from feedback from users. ;) Mar 08 18:02:45 the hard float stuff seems to be coming along nicely Mar 08 18:02:50 beagle, beaglexm? Mar 08 18:02:54 xm Mar 08 18:03:04 o/~ no static at allll o/~ Mar 08 18:03:26 Hmmm. Mar 08 18:03:38 What size SD card are you using? Mar 08 18:03:47 GrueMaster: 4gb Mar 08 18:04:07 greetings, looking for some assistance for BeagleBone Mar 08 18:04:28 It sounds like somehow the image is corrupted on your SD. Mar 08 18:04:55 GrueMaster: i copied it twice to be sure, but i can try again when i get home tonight Mar 08 18:05:43 The way I image sd cards is "gunzip Rev A5, ethernet dies periodically, no specific intervals. I thought those issues were fixed in A5.. In case it was OS/SD related I wiped and put the angstrom demo image. Mar 08 18:06:07 i also tried the daily build from about three days ago with the same thing Mar 08 18:06:12 GrueMaster: thx, will try Mar 08 18:06:33 Some card readers seem to buffer writing, so make sure to let it sit for a few seconds after running the above dd. Mar 08 18:06:48 sync/eject helps too. Mar 08 18:06:57 about to try Ubuntu unless you guys have a better idea, maybe a defective SD card? Mar 08 18:07:51 nothing of interest in dmesg Mar 08 18:08:00 Eric_, the A4's didn't work at all.. something else is happening.. any chance when the ethernt dies, anything in dmesg.. Mar 08 18:08:17 rcn-ee, I tried to update NAND with MLO as well as u-boot, nand unlock seems to be deprecated? Mar 08 18:08:39 rcn-ee: see my msg, guess I read your mind, scary Mar 08 18:08:43 rcn-ee: I have a script that I run to flash my cards. It has sync twice, before sending me a notice that it is done. My reader still flashes write activity for ~5 seconds after that. Mar 08 18:08:53 xtec, about 5/6 of those instructions are, so just ignore them.. ;) u-boot likes to do that every release.. Mar 08 18:09:23 GrueMaster, i do the same exact thing in all my scripts on github.com... double sync.. ;) Mar 08 18:09:47 rcn-ee, can I do this process right when I booted up using "USER" button and the SD ? Mar 08 18:10:59 xtec, sure.. the user button just forces you to use the MLO/u-boot.img from the sd card.. once u-boot is running (from either NAND/MMC) you can type those commands.. (they are just written for any possible u-boot.) Mar 08 18:14:08 Hmm. Image worked fine here (well, except networking & audio). Mar 08 18:14:45 rcn-ee, so after the last one "... bytes witten: OK" - can I just reboot the board with no SD card? Mar 08 18:15:01 or maybe I shoudl do something more Mar 08 18:15:10 before reboot Mar 08 18:15:14 xtec, yeap, after the last command it should boot without the sd card.. Mar 08 18:15:37 hi Mar 08 18:16:12 after the reset I get again Error: Bad compare! failed ... number of times - just like it wouldn't flash Mar 08 18:16:42 (I'm following the steps from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/) Mar 08 18:17:17 rcn-ee: I bough a pandaboard , your demo file is working fine for that board? Mar 08 18:17:23 humm... that might be from the MLO.. Mar 08 18:17:55 tholm, currently no audio, nor 3d graphics, nor video codecs... but otherwise it works great on both the panda/panda_es.. Mar 08 18:18:21 (oh an use the dvi labeled connector.. the hdmi is planed for being default with 3.3) Mar 08 18:19:20 when booting from NAND I see: U-Boot SPL 2011.12-00005-g0a44c98 (Feb 13 2012 - 18:49:45) Mar 08 18:19:33 if i use a hdmi tv this wont work? Mar 08 18:19:40 xtec, i don't have my C4 with me at the moment.. so i couldn't verify this today.. ( i know it worked a weeks ago..) http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Upgrade_X-loader_and_U-boot (hence why i pointed to the angstrom site) Mar 08 18:20:30 tholm, it'll work fine.. there's two ports on the panda's.. with my image, only the dvi labled one (both hdmi connectors) gets the correct resolution.. Mar 08 18:21:22 ok Mar 08 18:28:06 xtec, just tested with my oldest beagle b5 board, using the script right now is safe.. (it should use my 2011.12-r1 u-boot) Mar 08 18:40:39 rcn-ee, ok - I used that script and it flashed properly. Thank you. Mar 08 18:41:00 your welcome xtec.. ;) Mar 08 18:41:01 the sequence is a bit different than the one shown on the Angstrom related site. Mar 08 18:41:47 yeah it changed when X-loader was thrown out.. and i think i need to sync the wiki to what the internal script does too. (hw ec stuff changed) Mar 08 18:42:39 so to sum up - the best way to test my own u-boot.bin would be locating the MLO as well as my u-boot.bin on the fat partition and boot it using "USER" button? Mar 08 18:42:53 *not u-boot.bin but u-boot.img Mar 08 18:43:05 exactly.. ;) Mar 08 18:43:06 easier than flashing the nand right? Mar 08 18:43:21 or what i tend to do "nand erase.chip" then it never boots of nand. .;) Mar 08 18:43:31 heh, there ya go Mar 08 18:43:50 what was the point of having nand anyways? Mar 08 18:44:09 then it's easy to always have the latest version on the MLO and in the field just swap sd cards to update.. Mar 08 18:44:27 it's nice if you have the rootfs in there, then the mmc is just 2ndary storage.. Mar 08 18:44:43 is it any faster than the SD? Mar 08 18:45:00 it has to be, would be my guess Mar 08 18:55:02 and why did u-boot.bin get changed to u-boot.img? Mar 08 18:58:56 why would me bone reset without any reason? Mar 08 18:59:15 there is a drug to help with that ;) Mar 08 19:01:52 let me rephrase my question Mar 08 19:02:15 why in hell does my beaglebone reset/reboot with no reason? Mar 08 19:02:18 <_av500_> djlewis: :) Mar 08 19:02:26 did you watch the serial console when it happened? Mar 08 19:02:31 yes Mar 08 19:02:37 mranostay: u-boot spl? Mar 08 19:02:40 it just goes to the uboot Mar 08 19:02:56 power issues? Mar 08 19:03:33 b52: usb powered or 5V power supply Mar 08 19:04:43 plugged in both Mar 08 19:05:28 if i only plug in the 5v power supply the power led repeatingly flashes Mar 08 19:05:44 this sounds like RMA Mar 08 19:05:47 hw broken Mar 08 19:06:16 watchdog going off? Mar 08 19:06:23 rcn-ee: ? Mar 08 19:06:27 woglinde: whats RMA ? Mar 08 19:06:47 rcn-ee, are there some super-security configuration settings for ssh in your images? Mar 08 19:07:17 no, ssh ubuntu@address or ssh debian@address should work.. Mar 08 19:08:08 i tried to set it as simple as possible.. just so i could quickly ssh in from a test machine.. so .pub keys are needed.. Mar 08 19:08:48 either i get a connection refused, or a certainly correct password fails. Mar 08 19:09:44 btw which ethernet driver is modprobe'd for the beaglebone `? Mar 08 19:09:55 strange.. fires up the test image i was working with last night.. Mar 08 19:10:56 could someone do a Mar 08 19:11:07 i guess i'm doing something stupid. the box gets ip 192.168.4.98 from a statically configured dhcp server. Mar 08 19:11:08 `lsmod` on its beaglebone for me plz Mar 08 19:11:31 b52, not much use, empty here ;) Mar 08 19:11:33 LetoThe2nd, http://pastebin.com/sCyTqbu8 (seems to be working..) unless the generate key already matches a key in your system.. Mar 08 19:12:01 b52, sorry builtin on my images. ;) Mar 08 19:12:45 rcn-ee, just removed known_hosts, still connection refused. Mar 08 19:12:54 rcn-ee, i can ping the box, though. Mar 08 19:15:40 I wonder what a theoretical O2 animal board would sell for since even that is a mile ahead of the berry desert board Mar 08 19:16:21 connection refused means nothing bound to port Mar 08 19:16:40 .. somethings going on with old xchat here. Mar 08 19:16:46 not necessarily Mar 08 19:16:55 connection refused could mean iptables at work Mar 08 19:16:56 or firewall setup to send rst Mar 08 19:18:12 how comes then that from one particular machine i get the login prompt (that fails), and from all others "connection refused?" Mar 08 19:18:26 LetoThe2nd: there should still be a module loaded Mar 08 19:18:53 b52: certainly no. Mar 08 19:19:01 LetoThe2nd: depending on the source ip it either connects or doesn't? gotta be firewall right? Mar 08 19:20:44 LetoThe2nd: how do you use ur phy without a driver? Mar 08 19:21:01 mom please Mar 08 19:21:10 b52, if it's built-in vs a module, you aren't going to see it with lsmod.. Mar 08 19:31:07 is it possible o interfere with the gpio driver directly using C ? Mar 08 19:31:37 or do i have to use the /sys/class/gpio nodes? Mar 08 19:31:49 that isn't mutually exclusive Mar 08 19:32:03 you can interface directly to the /sys/class/gpio nodes using C Mar 08 19:32:39 i dont mean by using open, write, read ... etc. Mar 08 19:32:49 why not? Mar 08 19:33:15 sure, you can mmap /dev/mem and screw everything up Mar 08 19:33:34 thought the driver supports a neat wrapper using ioctl or something similiar Mar 08 19:33:35 don't encourage him mdp Mar 08 19:33:46 I know…bad practice Mar 08 19:33:53 b52, why is write different than ioctl to you? Mar 08 19:33:55 b52, what is neat about ioctl? Mar 08 19:33:58 :) Mar 08 19:34:39 read/write is a better interface in the gpio case because you get control over read/write permissions Mar 08 19:35:34 [root@alarm ~]# [ 1613.003143] PHY: 0:00 - Link is Down gnah :X Mar 08 19:38:45 b52, use something like https://github.com/mrshu/GPIOlib and you don't need to worry about the low level api Mar 08 19:38:53 ultimately that's what everybody duplicates for their projects Mar 08 19:39:31 * LetoThe2nd is back. Mar 08 19:39:53 <_av500_> the channel cheers Mar 08 19:40:06 its really strange. i can ping the bone, but whatever higher level communication i try, it fails/is refused. Mar 08 19:40:34 <_av500_> LetoThe2nd: you burned another one? Mar 08 19:40:48 _av500_: hey, you saw the red applause lights? ;) Mar 08 19:41:08 nah, no burning today. Mar 08 19:41:46 are you sure its the bone? Mar 08 19:42:11 pretty much. Mar 08 19:42:55 gonna try another ip mapping Mar 08 19:43:34 mdp: kk Mar 08 19:43:40 would have written my own ;P Mar 08 19:46:17 ok. there is something fishy here with the ip addresses. Mar 08 19:52:50 is my understanding of how to connect an lcd screen correct: get an lcd screen with 24wires, connect them somehow to the bone, write a driver to make the lcd usable to the system as a visual output device? Mar 08 19:58:21 write proper kernel drivers!!! Mar 08 19:58:38 chuck gpiolib Mar 08 20:00:05 kkeller and I had this discussion..pretty much the same one over his bonescript display stuff Mar 08 20:00:28 ds2, the generally the camp I fall into since I know how to do it Mar 08 20:00:36 s/the/that's/ Mar 08 20:01:14 if you are exporting everything from the kernel, you might as well start using NO_MMU Mar 08 20:02:02 b52, read the datasheet/trm for am335x for how to interface….google linux framebuffer drivers for the software side Mar 08 20:02:06 s/google/bing/ Mar 08 20:02:33 or just read the sources Mar 08 20:02:58 except for misleading information in the TRM about LCD stuff, it's mostly understandable Mar 08 20:03:09 the entire process is - add timing, sit back and enjoy video Mar 08 20:03:33 it's easier to watch youtube videos of other people that do this stuff though... Mar 08 20:03:42 :) Mar 08 20:03:54 and just relax with your beer knowing that it's already been done Mar 08 20:04:18 or buy the beagleboards with dvi out and save the work. Mar 08 20:04:49 or support the cape market…buy 8 different lcd cape designs Mar 08 20:04:52 for the classic boards, I can provide a pre-canned solution ;) Mar 08 20:05:02 there ya go :) Mar 08 20:05:26 blah... skip the caps...just build expansion boards ;) Mar 08 20:05:33 capes Mar 08 20:05:40 let's do "boosterpacks" Mar 08 20:07:05 *cough* 430 *cough* Mar 08 20:08:21 real nommu Mar 08 20:08:28 these 15pages of timing diagrames are the total manual for the lcd stuff? oO Mar 08 20:09:02 * ds2 waits for someone to try to fit a 430 booster pack on to an am33x board ;) Mar 08 20:09:16 ds2, already in process Mar 08 20:09:48 I see. Mar 08 20:09:56 "stupid bone tricks" Mar 08 20:10:06 bad to the bone? Mar 08 20:14:48 whats a good simple lcd panel with 24wires? Mar 08 20:15:07 a nice mono panel Mar 08 20:15:20 with lots lots of grounds Mar 08 20:28:48 guys, anybody with an A5 and ethernet issues? Mar 08 20:28:48 Anyone done networking in u-boot with a beagle bone? Mar 08 20:29:01 Eric_: maybe :) Mar 08 20:29:10 it works from Linux Mar 08 20:29:15 what are your symptoms? :D Mar 08 20:29:25 I can do NFS root from Linux, but can't seem to do networking from u-boot Mar 08 20:29:34 I'm not a u-boot expert so I'm sure I'm doing something wrong Mar 08 20:29:49 I want to load the kernel from NFS as well as the Root FS Mar 08 20:30:13 does uboot support nfs? Mar 08 20:30:18 Supposed to Mar 08 20:30:22 has an NFS command Mar 08 20:30:31 most of what I read has it doing TFTP for my use case Mar 08 20:30:36 and you tested your ifs server I presume :D Mar 08 20:30:41 nfs sry Mar 08 20:30:44 yeah Mar 08 20:30:58 like I said, I can do NFS root FS from Linux Mar 08 20:31:02 once the kernel is loaded Mar 08 20:31:06 so all that part works Mar 08 20:31:09 most people use tftp to do what you want to do Mar 08 20:31:10 I can't even ping from u-boot Mar 08 20:31:20 jay6981: yeah, that's most of what I see Mar 08 20:31:28 but I'm just so lazy :) Mar 08 20:31:34 http://billforums.station51.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17 Mar 08 20:31:38 That guy does NFS kernel Mar 08 20:31:44 that's what I'm trying to do Mar 08 20:31:51 never done NFS via u-boot yet, I can't keep my beagle bone A5 up long enough to accomplish that.. I get ethernet dropping out periodically, anybody have that problem? Mar 08 20:32:02 acutally, I'm not thinking that TFTP would work either, since I can't bing from u-boot Mar 08 20:32:21 Eric_: I haven't had mine long enough to be able to tell you Mar 08 20:32:39 trying u-boot may be helpful in ruling out the distro for me though, I wish I had it here at this moment Mar 08 20:32:57 I did notice that if I connect to ttyUSB0 that if I send any characters at all it reboots the system Mar 08 20:33:12 what is your rev of the board? Mar 08 20:33:29 not sure if ttyUSB0 is the JTAG debugger or something. I know the JTAG is there somewhere. like I said, I'm just getting going with the actual board Mar 08 20:33:34 should be A5 Mar 08 20:33:44 it's written on the box :D Mar 08 20:33:46 That's what the website said Mar 08 20:33:49 oh, true Mar 08 20:34:03 box confirms A5 Mar 08 20:34:12 the USB exposes 2 lines, depending on your host OS, will be /dev/usbserial.sjhdjakhdkA or B Mar 08 20:34:14 pick B Mar 08 20:34:32 yeah Mar 08 20:34:39 /dev/ttyUSB1 for me for the console Mar 08 20:34:43 you look to be using a Mac :) Mar 08 20:34:45 dunno what the other one is for but threw me off too Mar 08 20:34:53 guilty :D Mar 08 20:35:09 SilicaGel ping? Mar 08 20:35:41 did you opkg update/upgrade it? Mar 08 20:35:42 hi ka6sox Mar 08 20:36:13 Eric_: I just got an image off the website Mar 08 20:36:16 Wow. So many beaglers in here! Just powered mine up... Mar 08 20:36:19 Eric_: fairly stock right now Mar 08 20:36:29 schichtarbeiter o.O Mar 08 20:36:56 alan_o: try pinging it for a while, see if ethernet dies on you Mar 08 20:37:19 I'll give it a go Mar 08 20:37:20 mine suddenly goes from 1ms to 600ms then drops for 10min then back on Mar 08 20:37:27 but right now it's sitting at the u-boot prompt Mar 08 20:37:49 hi woglinde Mar 08 20:37:51 I imaged twice to the A5 shipping image, pulling my hair out and about to stick Ubunto on it Mar 08 20:37:53 back from holiday Mar 08 20:39:22 ubuntu :S Mar 08 20:40:05 americans don't go on holiday :P Mar 08 20:40:28 indeed Mar 08 20:41:35 Could not probe the EEPROM; something fundamentally wrong on the I2C bus. Mar 08 20:41:36 read_eeprom() failure Mar 08 20:41:45 whats that supposed to mean Oo Mar 08 20:45:46 ka6sox: i'm here! Mar 08 20:48:07 wow. this thing runs perfectly out of the box... Rev. A5 / Angstrom Mar 08 20:48:39 I have additional question - UART related. I have setup with debian 5.0 and 2.6.32.8 kernel that lets me use ttyS1 and ttyS2. I had to upgrade the kernel to 3.2.9 and using that I see some strange behaviour of ttyO2. When I connect to this tty with minicom, only one character is being passed. I can send OR receive only one character. In bootargs (uEnv.txt) I have console=null, system messages are not printed on ttyO2. When I quit the mi Mar 08 20:49:27 I have to wait up to 30 secs to get the shell prompt. Mar 08 20:49:29 xtec, there's an omap bug in 3.2.9.. what does uname -a report? Mar 08 20:49:40 SilicaGel nice work on PRUSS while I've been on holiday :D Mar 08 20:49:54 s/omap/serial/g Mar 08 20:50:11 Linux debian 3.2.9 #1 Mon March 5 12:20:27 CET 2012 armv71 GNU/Linux Mar 08 20:50:12 :) Mar 08 20:50:30 Yeah, I've been busy, and made some progress. Tried to document it to be helpful to others Mar 08 20:51:57 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/563042/ why does it keep resetting :'( Mar 08 20:52:07 xtec, revert this commit: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git;a=commit;h=aa0eb3474beae8f6d9dcc2311dc02bea50cfd7b7 (breaks serial on omaps) Mar 08 20:55:54 so maybe I should try different kernel version? :) I'm not really tied to this one (although this one is the first one that I managed to have "working". Mar 08 20:56:23 xtec, it's a pretty new regression, 3.2.8 is fine.. so it was just in the 3.2.9 patchset.. Mar 08 20:57:59 Ok, I'll try, thank you again rcn-ee, I owe you at minimum a bear :) Mar 08 20:58:30 \o/ ip troubles sorted out Mar 08 20:58:37 no problem, was bisecting that one last night.. it tripped me up too.. it's been talked about al ittle on l-o there is a mainline fix, so 3.2.10 should be fine.. Mar 08 20:59:45 SilicaGel where is that doco? Mar 08 20:59:57 various postings on the beagleboard mailing list, mostly Mar 08 21:00:55 so are you planning on putting it on the e-linux wiki too? Mar 08 21:01:03 thats kind of a good place to put it all. Mar 08 21:01:19 hmmmm i could Mar 08 21:03:18 we already have a section on RT "hardware" assist stuff including some PRUSS information Mar 08 21:03:49 i come from a desktop linux world so have a Q: if i was to buy a beagleboard and some of the senors like heat or moisture, i would connect it to beagleboard and how would I access the data these senors feedback to beagle board? Mar 08 21:04:29 funkster, depends on what sensors you use Mar 08 21:04:39 they can be i2c or SPI or parallel or whatever. Mar 08 21:04:52 most are i2c it seems these days. Mar 08 21:05:14 if they are i2c whats the process of accessing that data? sorry im new Mar 08 21:05:54 there are drivers for i2c Mar 08 21:06:15 and libraries to use them as well. Mar 08 21:06:22 ahh ok Mar 08 21:21:54 Anyone ever seen a gige PHY fail to auto negotiate on a number of short cables but succeed on a 100ft cable? Mar 08 21:24:36 bah does set_gpio_value work in twl4030_gpio_init ? Mar 08 21:27:06 * unsolo would guess it should.. Mar 08 21:27:34 i get the resource set the direction then set the output Mar 08 21:27:40 nothing comes out tho ;) Mar 08 21:30:16 toofar: Actually, yes. I used to do network testing at Intel. Mar 08 21:30:36 Is this a layout issue with respect to the PHY on my board? Mar 08 21:30:42 anyone know the price of a trace32 ? Mar 08 21:30:56 for cortex-A probably Mar 08 21:31:03 I know the short cables work fine, I've tried several, just in combination with this PHY/board it falls back to 100 Mb/s Mar 08 21:34:29 toofar, how "short" are you talking about? Mar 08 21:34:45 Tried 1 foot - 6 foot cables Mar 08 21:34:54 no go, and if I plug in a 100 foot cable it works Mar 08 21:35:01 tried CAT5E, CAT6 Mar 08 21:35:14 verified the short cables work on other devices with the same switches and they do Mar 08 21:35:26 so it has gotta be my custom board + Phy combination Mar 08 21:37:14 GrueMaster: is there a special name or somethign related to this that I can google? I can't find anything with what I've been trying Mar 08 21:39:00 I wonder if it is related to the latest issues with the raspberry pi? http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/781 Mar 08 21:39:43 no... not a raspberry pi -- thank god Mar 08 21:39:53 magnetics are external in my case Mar 08 21:40:22 wrong channel for rpi Mar 08 21:41:21 I want "magnetics" on my RPi shirt :D Mar 08 21:42:12 Rpi is all hype Mar 08 21:42:18 give up on ethernet! Mar 08 21:43:16 I wonder if it's because these stupid switches have a "green mode" Mar 08 21:44:02 green? the last time I saw green on electronics, it failed in a couple of days Mar 08 21:44:05 it was a caviar... Mar 08 21:45:12 toofar: Could be possible that the green feature is causing issues. I wouldn't know. Mar 08 21:52:43 ok, sounds like we will take a day trip to see cebit on Saturday Mar 08 21:53:40 Just to confirm - indeed on kernel 3.2.8 UARTS work as designed. \o/ Mar 08 21:55:13 are you asking us to confirm this, or are you telling us taht you confirmed this? Mar 08 21:55:51 sorry for not being precise - I'm telling that I confirm that. Mar 08 21:56:13 I've lost several days so right now I'm happy as a child. Mar 08 21:57:25 happier than the first time you ran startx and actually got something to show up on the screen? Mar 08 21:58:35 smplman - good one :) Mar 08 21:58:57 Crofton I will be not there Mar 08 21:59:23 I assume it is worth seeing, at least once :) Mar 08 21:59:36 yeah tons of people Mar 08 22:00:50 do you know if they ahve an open source porject area this year? Mar 08 22:01:04 yes they have Mar 08 22:01:15 let me find it Mar 08 22:02:47 hm only german Mar 08 22:05:16 aren't the uarts the same as on a omap.. Mar 08 22:10:43 it's still nice to hear that they work! Mar 08 22:15:44 SilicaGel: indeed Mar 08 22:17:04 btw if you want to force the otg to host (omap3/dm37) do you leave the id floating or do you ground it or is it a "don't care" thing ? Mar 08 22:17:24 well basically thats all in the tps65959 Mar 08 22:17:30 -9 +0 Mar 08 22:17:38 anyone suggest a known to work good board camera for beaglebone? Mar 08 22:18:07 was looking at leapard imaging cameras Mar 08 22:18:30 funkster: i was never able to get a good picture out from it. Mar 08 22:18:47 tbh any usb camera would do a better job. Mar 08 22:19:19 yeah im going to look into a small usb camera - hopesully i can buy a few without case Mar 08 22:19:22 but this was the "fixed" lens version Mar 08 22:19:51 beware that the usb performance will limit you .. at least thats my experience Mar 08 22:20:10 what did it limit exactly, just speed? Mar 08 22:20:19 well that was my experience Mar 08 22:20:39 but i recon connecting the camera on the otg may bring better results Mar 08 22:20:55 yeah im going to look into doing that Mar 08 22:21:11 unsolo: you using any usb wifi's? Mar 08 22:21:30 funkster: nope. Mar 08 22:32:34 omg, that hype is really serious, rpi spotted on Lua mailing list Mar 08 22:34:53 <_av500_> run! Mar 08 22:35:11 where? Mar 08 22:50:58 _av500_: basica doesnt work in my irssi Mar 08 22:51:45 * djlewis has been looking at usb cams without case and they cost a bit more :( Mar 08 22:51:58 oO Mar 08 22:52:34 actually a ps3eye cam does very well with the TI gstreamer plugin Mar 08 22:52:52 response time is great but the resolution not as good Mar 08 22:53:47 i've played with little $18 gspca webcams Mar 08 22:55:49 cool thing in the ps3eye is wide and narrow mode + 320x240@60Hz for "other purposes" Mar 08 22:56:33 guess the xbox camera thing can probably be used too Mar 08 22:56:46 (expensive hw for little $ ) Mar 08 22:57:39 please tell me none you are going to end up on the 6 o clock news :) Mar 08 22:59:33 better hurry, only one hour left Mar 08 22:59:40 Post Office wall. Mar 08 23:02:35 do criminals avoid buying stamps i wonder Mar 09 00:23:59 look what I got, https://picasaweb.google.com/108380917869049424169/Secret?authkey=Gv1sRgCPXQzoat3b3ffQ#5717685591031575106 Mar 09 01:51:30 cq rickman come in rickman **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 09 02:59:58 2012