**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 17 02:59:59 2012 Mar 17 03:25:09 rats missed everyone Mar 17 03:25:13 so who's beaglebone tree is most of up to date now? Mar 17 03:25:20 * mranostay was using koen's Mar 17 03:59:02 I koen's falling behind? Mar 17 05:46:00 am i supposed to be able to build a console-image for beaglebone? Mar 17 05:54:48 no you don't have permission Mar 17 05:54:55 huh? Mar 17 05:55:14 * mranostay take off troll hat Mar 17 05:55:25 JViz: a little more detail please Mar 17 05:55:27 are there supported builds? like i saw someone making a cloud9 image Mar 17 05:55:34 cloud9-image Mar 17 05:55:35 i think Mar 17 05:56:04 i'm still wrapping my head around bitbaking angstrom Mar 17 05:56:31 i built an image and it stops with some weird errors on boot Mar 17 05:56:52 i built a custom kernel, but all i did was add a module, which shouldn't load on boot Mar 17 05:57:33 why shouldn't it? Mar 17 05:58:40 i don't even know what you mean by `it`, let alone why Mar 17 05:59:35 load on boot Mar 17 06:00:30 because anytime i've built that module in the past, it's required manual loading, and i don't think the kernel is getting very far Mar 17 06:00:45 dies before init? Mar 17 06:01:02 it doesn't seem to even die Mar 17 06:01:17 udevd[57]: worker [80] did not accept message -1 (Connection refused), kill it Mar 17 06:01:37 i get a bunch of those with different numbers about 10 lines into loading the kernel Mar 17 06:02:30 i also get a few of: omap2_set_init_voltage: unable to get ... Mar 17 06:02:32 well that is after init Mar 17 06:02:36 oh Mar 17 06:03:19 want to pastebin the whole output? Mar 17 06:03:24 is "init" where it says "Starting kernel ..."? Mar 17 06:03:37 sure Mar 17 06:04:27 yes Mar 17 06:04:34 er no Mar 17 06:04:36 http://pastebin.com/wskFNVFv Mar 17 06:05:14 ew that is this early on Mar 17 06:05:37 what is in uEnv.txt? Mar 17 06:05:54 stupid quiet option in on i bet Mar 17 06:06:31 optargs=run_hardware_tests quiet ip_method=none Mar 17 06:06:35 er Mar 17 06:06:37 that's two lines Mar 17 06:06:52 should i get rid of the quiet line? Mar 17 06:07:31 yeah verbose output is never bad in this case Mar 17 06:07:58 ok Mar 17 06:09:44 wow Mar 17 06:09:46 it booted Mar 17 06:09:48 lol Mar 17 06:11:14 er magic printks again?.... Mar 17 06:13:11 i guess? Mar 17 06:18:49 * mranostay goes to sleep and hopes to catch 10:45a express train Mar 17 06:19:14 express to where? Mar 17 06:20:27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDLQg8ZKBS8 Mar 17 06:20:43 san francisco. i know american express trains are really that express :) Mar 17 06:20:57 american express makes trains? Mar 17 06:21:26 cute Mar 17 06:22:00 good night mranostay Mar 17 06:22:04 and thank you Mar 17 06:22:18 anyone that video captures a CRT needs to be shot Mar 17 06:23:02 telecine used to be the only way! Mar 17 06:23:06 ka6sox: you going to LC Summit? Mar 17 06:23:06 is that a Gold, Silver, Platinum or Green? Mar 17 06:23:18 yeah - that was pretty lame. Mar 17 06:23:26 there was a time before video tape Mar 17 06:23:27 mranostay, not thought about that yet. Mar 17 06:25:15 all the talks look interesting compared to ELC Mar 17 06:27:36 or more should i say more relevent to my new job Mar 17 06:28:42 mranostay, where is it? Mar 17 06:30:04 ka6sox: LC Summit? Mar 17 06:30:11 San Francisco Mar 17 06:30:22 it is invite only. but you just request one Mar 17 06:30:26 got a URL? Mar 17 06:30:51 https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/collaboration-summit/schedule Mar 17 06:33:22 close-ish to the train station versus the Redwood City Mar 17 06:36:44 well..it is invite only. Mar 17 06:37:35 ka6sox: just request oen Mar 17 06:37:40 *one Mar 17 06:37:48 that is what i did Mar 17 06:44:01 kk Mar 17 06:48:01 niteynite Mar 17 06:56:41 <_av500_> yo Mar 17 07:03:21 Hi Mar 17 07:03:52 Anybody here? :-) Mar 17 07:04:23 a few trolls Mar 17 07:04:28 :-) Mar 17 07:04:52 Wanted to know if beagle board has been selected for GSoC 2012? Mar 17 07:12:41 arsalan, I would check back on monday when its more than us trolls. Mar 17 07:28:35 Hello good morning! I cannot config my display with BB properly. I am using PAL tv for main display. I am using sakoman's gnome daily build r13. I can see nice grayscale stripes on startup. But after kernel boot it somehow starts to blur. Mar 17 07:30:29 so it is not clear enough to read something through the screen. it seems maybe i have to change display config properly.. Mar 17 07:30:54 somehow starts to blur? Mar 17 07:31:01 i m doing now with uEnv.txt to do that.. Mar 17 07:31:22 yes it seems to be a problem of syncing.. Mar 17 07:31:47 bluring and blinking. Mar 17 07:32:27 maybe not a problem of syncing.. Mar 17 07:32:38 maybe refresh rate.. Mar 17 07:32:52 how can i post an image here? Mar 17 07:33:08 imgur maybe? Mar 17 07:35:35 okay i will do it... but what is right one to set PAL tv on uEnv.txt. i am now using.. now.. omapfb.mode=tv:pal:720x576i@50 Mar 17 07:36:57 i couldn't find proper documentation to do this.. Mar 17 07:48:39 <_av500_> no gsoc it seems Mar 17 07:49:59 http://imgur.com/a/npzJo Mar 17 07:50:09 phew.. it took a time.. Mar 17 07:50:59 <_av500_> butiful Mar 17 07:51:54 i cannot make it to be fixed.. until the letters to be readable.. Mar 17 07:52:21 but as first image.. screen from u-boot.. is quite nice.. Mar 17 07:52:35 grayscale stripes Mar 17 07:53:05 so i thought this could be a wrong setting on kernel command... Mar 17 07:54:06 omapfb.mode=tv:pal:720x576i@50 i did like this. but.. i have no idea if it is right way to do this.. or not. Mar 17 07:54:28 or maybe have use other options.. or.... Mar 17 07:54:36 getting lost... Mar 17 07:57:01 <_av500_> pal is 730x576 Mar 17 07:57:06 <_av500_> no need to state that Mar 17 07:57:55 okay but it was same.. when i did just omapfb.mode=tv:pal Mar 17 07:59:01 so i started to do something else.. then made something stupid like this.. Mar 17 07:59:33 i couldn't find proper documentation about how to use uEnv.txt .. options and setting possible.. Mar 17 07:59:59 where can i get this? or should i have to dig into source codes? Mar 17 08:00:06 :( Mar 17 08:02:06 or is there a way to set the main screen to be grayscale by force? Mar 17 08:02:23 i dont need color screen.... Mar 17 08:06:25 anyone knows where should I find reference of uEnv.txt for BBc5, u-boot 2011.09... Mar 17 08:09:34 <_av500_> uboot source code Mar 17 08:09:46 <_av500_> or stop the boot and do "printenv" Mar 17 08:09:56 <_av500_> that should show you the default env vars Mar 17 08:10:24 <_av500_> but since you have pal already there is not much more you can do in uboot Mar 17 08:11:03 but i cannot use my keyboard during u-boot.. when they say hit any key... Mar 17 08:11:09 i cannot hit the keys.. Mar 17 08:11:23 after kernel boot i can use it.. though. Mar 17 08:12:24 <_av500_> on serial? Mar 17 08:12:25 then.. at least if i can change main screen to be grayscaled .. i think this could help.. want to try Mar 17 08:12:33 <_av500_> usb kbd does not work in uboot Mar 17 08:12:51 umm. then what can i use? Mar 17 08:12:54 <_av500_> serial Mar 17 08:13:06 <_av500_> and anyway, you cannot set graysacle fom uboot Mar 17 08:13:09 serial keyboard? is that mean ps2? Mar 17 08:13:28 then.. in linux env can i do that? Mar 17 08:13:57 ah.. i see... u mean. serial. communication? Mar 17 08:14:37 <_av500_> not serial keyboard Mar 17 08:14:53 <_av500_> a serial connection Mar 17 08:15:08 okay got it. i will try that. Mar 17 08:15:32 and in linux env started, can i set linux to use grayscaled main screen? Mar 17 08:15:32 <_av500_> but as i said, what for Mar 17 08:15:37 <_av500_> you have tv out already Mar 17 08:15:40 <_av500_> now enjoy it Mar 17 08:15:50 but i cannot read letters.. Mar 17 08:15:58 http://imgur.com/a/npzJo Mar 17 08:16:03 as last image.. Mar 17 08:16:12 all color sync out .. Mar 17 08:16:19 maybe too old tv? Mar 17 08:16:23 i dont know.. Mar 17 08:16:25 wtf is sakoman doing hooking stuff up to a crt? Mar 17 08:16:48 i cannot use like this.. Mar 17 08:17:04 if only i can read letters.. that would be fine. Mar 17 08:17:07 maybe you just need to increase font size Mar 17 08:17:15 <_av500_> or not use a tv Mar 17 08:17:31 <_av500_> is the svideo even hooked up correctly Mar 17 08:17:36 um.. i dont have any.. thing else... Mar 17 08:17:41 <_av500_> the image should not be shitty like that Mar 17 08:17:57 ya, svideo should not be that bad Mar 17 08:18:03 pal/ntsc mismatch? Mar 17 08:18:13 did pal & ntsc both Mar 17 08:18:16 same Mar 17 08:18:20 then this is it? Mar 17 08:18:21 that is odd Mar 17 08:18:29 no better? gonna be? Mar 17 08:18:38 what country was the TV originally sold in? Mar 17 08:18:42 but if i can change screen grayscaled. Mar 17 08:18:45 japan Mar 17 08:18:55 ah. no sorry.. Mar 17 08:18:57 germany Mar 17 08:19:05 made in japan.. sold in germany Mar 17 08:19:22 pal Mar 17 08:19:31 <_av500_> well, cut the chroma line and you have grayscale Mar 17 08:19:38 make sure, double sure, that you are outputting pal Mar 17 08:19:42 because when.. starting.. grayscaled stripes.. look perfect.. Mar 17 08:19:50 yes. pal. Mar 17 08:19:53 because if pal and ntsc look the same, I would say you aren't actually switichng Mar 17 08:20:22 ah. okay.. Mar 17 08:20:37 and cutting chroma line.. i got it. Mar 17 08:20:47 maybe that.. Mar 17 08:21:01 <_av500_> but yes, try ntsc and if it looks the same, you are not doing pal Mar 17 08:21:48 okay... then.. omapfb.mode=tv:pal Mar 17 08:22:02 i tried this before throuhg uEnv.txt Mar 17 08:22:06 but was same.. Mar 17 08:22:18 maybe this time gonna try with.. uboot? Mar 17 08:22:24 i will do it.. Mar 17 08:22:45 thank you Russ, av500 Mar 17 08:22:56 and everybody! Mar 17 08:23:05 <_av500_> uenv.txt IS uboot Mar 17 08:23:29 * Russ thinks that pal or ntsc would show up in sysfs Mar 17 08:23:30 ah.. Mar 17 08:24:05 so if i type something into uEnv.txt.. does it same to typing things on uboot prompt? Mar 17 08:24:16 <_av500_> something like that Mar 17 08:24:44 also check and see that none of the pins on the svideo cable are broken Mar 17 08:24:46 then can i also use all things what can i type also in the text file too? Mar 17 08:25:02 Russ : yes i will Mar 17 08:25:41 okay.. i think enough now.. i can try several things ! Mar 17 08:25:45 thanks a lot! Mar 17 08:25:55 happy birthday to me :) Mar 17 08:36:44 happy saint patty's to everyone else Mar 17 10:14:24 Hey I was wondering, I have tried a different distribution (Arch ARM), and there I'm missing several entries under the /sys/ tree (in particular /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/). Are there means to load this by hand? Mar 17 10:21:09 my guess is: different kernel version or kernel modules not loaded Mar 17 10:23:29 so no specific kernel configurations have been made to the angström image for this? All of the /sys/ tree is created by stock kernel config? Mar 17 10:25:08 actually it's almost the same kernel version: Arch is running 3.2.0, and my Angström installation currently runs 3.2.x, too... Mar 17 10:26:42 maybe you're missing some kernel modules then Mar 17 10:26:55 or the kernel was built without certain features Mar 17 10:29:06 Gotta learn how building kernels and stuff works, then :) Mar 17 10:34:44 you might just need to load a module... Mar 17 10:34:50 what are you specifically missing? Mar 17 10:34:53 any idea how to figure out the names of the required modules? Mar 17 10:35:25 this: /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/ Mar 17 10:36:01 that's likely not a module but a compile time debug option Mar 17 10:36:16 or the kernel might need a patch even Mar 17 10:37:28 hmm were can I figure how the kernel that is build for angström is configured? Mar 17 11:06:29 hello, i came back to report back. Mar 17 11:06:30 http://imgur.com/bxN1J,yEIU9#0 Mar 17 11:06:33 http://imgur.com/bxN1J,yEIU9#1 Mar 17 11:07:01 now i can read letters. it was just a bad signal condition on luminance .. Mar 17 11:07:06 just cutted it Mar 17 11:07:55 in scart connector. pin 15. even through not so clear on these photo. it is clear enough on the brown tube. thanks for the supports! Mar 17 11:08:47 http://pinouts.ru/VideoCables/svhs_scart_pinout.shtml as a reference. Mar 17 11:08:53 chao! Mar 17 15:21:19 <_av500_> butiful Mar 17 15:30:00 can someone tell me how to define I/O of a beaglebone in C++? Mar 17 15:52:04 <_av500_> waffles anybody? Mar 17 15:53:00 bon apetit Mar 17 15:54:50 <_av500_> merci Mar 17 16:38:06 can anybody tell me how to define I/O of a beaglebone in C++? Mar 17 17:17:43 in the normal angstrom tool chain do you get boost/shared_ptr.hpp ? Mar 17 17:23:19 that monster? I would doubt that Mar 17 17:23:31 monster!!!??? Mar 17 17:23:41 boost is what makes c++ usable to me :( Mar 17 17:23:46 and shared_ptr is the most useful thing of all Mar 17 17:27:42 trolling, are we? Mar 17 17:28:30 oh, and I fell for it :-( Mar 17 17:29:10 * mranostay yawns Mar 17 17:29:22 me, trolling? I'm dead serious during weekends Mar 17 17:30:02 hey how would one change the permissions under /sys/ so that non-root users can get write access? I changed permissions with chown/chmod but they were gone after reboot... Mar 17 17:30:22 at least we can all agree 26 + 26 = 54 Mar 17 17:30:41 (or more specifically: those under /sys/kernel/debug, which are mountend with debugfs) Mar 17 17:32:06 it's virtual filesystem Mar 17 17:32:26 maybe some udev rules? Mar 17 17:35:07 will check that out.. Mar 17 17:59:04 Maybe somebody here knows..... If I want to associate my driver with one of the SPI controllers on the beagle bone, I make an spi_board_info in the board file, and set the .modalias to the name of my driver. I have this working, but not automatically. I have to still modprobe my driver for it to work (but when I do, I see my probe() function get called, so it knows to attach to me). It's like it knows what to do, but just won't load the Mar 17 17:59:04 module automatically. What part am I missing? Mar 17 18:00:32 hmm Mar 17 18:00:38 MODULE_ALIAS() ? Mar 17 18:00:40 is that it? Mar 17 18:16:21 MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE.... that looks promising Mar 17 18:21:01 success! Mar 17 18:25:43 if i replace sources/meta-ti/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-ti33x-psp-3.2/beaglebone/defconfig, when i do a bitbake -c clean virtual/kernel, and a bitbake virtual/kernel, should i get a new kernel with my new config? Mar 17 18:28:01 can anybody tell me how to define I/O of a beaglebone in C++? Mar 17 18:28:40 what is the command? Mar 17 18:54:02 starter: you mean access gpio from userspace? Mar 17 19:00:39 alan_o: yes Mar 17 19:01:22 alan_o: I installed QT nokia, do you know if it has any library for beaglebone or do I need to download a library for it? Mar 17 19:18:27 starter_: Not sure what you mean about the Qt Nokia thing Mar 17 19:18:47 but for GPIO, you'll use the Linux GPIO stuff in /sys/class/gpio Mar 17 19:19:56 There's some good GPIO info here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/su9MxdBkEyI Mar 17 19:50:16 alan_o: thank you very much Mar 17 22:36:35 The minimum somebody needs to learn about emacs is how to exit it ! !!!! !!!!!! Mar 17 22:39:11 that is ALL you need to know about emacs Mar 17 23:25:30 I typed "opkg upgrade" on beaglebone, it has been still upgrading more than 1:30 hour. normally how long does it take for the upgrade? Mar 17 23:30:44 upgrade is generally a bad idea for opkg Mar 17 23:31:19 but you might get lucky Mar 18 01:22:16 hey, does anyone here have experience with u-boot? Mar 18 01:22:24 ?: Is there a good reference to the entire boot process for the beagle bone? Mar 18 01:23:09 @tawest: i am new to all of this and trying to piece it all together. Mar 18 01:24:16 w1jp if you download the SDK there is a set of slides about the boot process Mar 18 01:27:44 I swear nothing I touch works properly T_T Mar 18 01:30:23 excuse the stupid ?, but which SDK? I don't see one on beagleboard.org Mar 18 01:33:40 On the TI site http://www.ti.com/tool/linuxezsdk-sitara Mar 18 01:33:55 LINUXSDK-BONE Mar 18 01:34:28 @status tnx! Mar 18 01:34:34 I'll check that out. Mar 18 01:57:36 Heya, is armin76 around & active? Mar 18 01:58:55 Wondering if anyone has compiled the 3.2 kernel on the Beagle (ether bone or board orig) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 18 02:59:59 2012