**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 19 02:59:58 2012 Mar 19 04:11:01 would anyone have any pointers on where to look for why a login prompt takes so long to come up after the kernel finishes loading? Mar 19 10:18:16 is there any toolchain of angstrom distrubition for windows? Mar 19 10:19:33 use a VM Mar 19 10:52:32 kikooje c pa komen sa march ^^ Mar 19 10:59:56 koman on fé ? Mar 19 11:00:40 54! Mar 19 11:01:55 mairsi Mar 19 11:02:52 bonjour je voudrais un plan cam avec une cokine ;) Mar 19 11:03:20 jambonmaskey: the generally accepted channel language is english, by the way... Mar 19 11:05:10 ok i'll try to translate Mar 19 11:05:18 i'm looking for a hot cam with a nice girl Mar 19 11:05:44 wrong place Mar 19 11:06:11 ho crap Mar 19 11:07:07 well i also need to install ubuntu on a beagleboard with A8 inside. Can I do it with ubuntu installed on my PC ? Mar 19 11:17:45 thank you community Mar 19 11:17:55 de rien Mar 19 11:18:47 jambonmaskey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP Mar 19 11:19:32 mairçi Mar 19 11:21:35 http://sanstabous.s.a.pic.centerblog.net/lcz5woej.jpg Mar 19 11:22:19 where is jason when you need hin :/ Mar 19 11:33:19 hello! can anyone help me about configuring beaglebone to auto appear on lan? Mar 19 11:36:46 if you lan is correctly configured and you are using the stock rpovided angstrom-cloud9-images, it does. Mar 19 11:38:06 does beaglebone need some preconfiguration on my router? Mar 19 11:38:47 eagle: the beaglebone itself not, but for automagic things having dhcp is certainly helpful. Mar 19 11:39:11 my computers appear well on the lan, so lan works Mar 19 11:39:21 that means nothing. Mar 19 11:40:00 i am using stock image on beaglebone, I plugged in the eth cable, after that the power source Mar 19 11:40:05 it never appears on the lan Mar 19 11:40:21 restart the bone Mar 19 11:40:21 i need use an usb cable and reboot manually the bone in terminal Mar 19 11:40:23 eagle: what do you mean ba "automatically appear" anyway? a windows share to show up, or what?" Mar 19 11:40:31 after that it appears on tha lan Mar 19 11:40:58 eagle: what power supply are you using? connected how? Mar 19 11:42:56 when the bone appear, i see on the router page (dhcp page) Mar 19 11:43:26 so? Mar 19 11:43:34 my other question, please. Mar 19 11:43:35 if you know the IP, then point your browser to it Mar 19 11:44:37 when i know IP than everything works. Mar 19 11:45:06 but if the bone doesnt appear on the lan, i cannot see it on dhcp list on router page Mar 19 11:46:35 power supply is an avarage one Mar 19 11:46:44 5V Mar 19 11:46:55 with correct polarity Mar 19 11:47:02 (i saw it from a documentation) Mar 19 11:47:23 connected to which socket? Mar 19 11:48:04 the socket Labeled "5V" Mar 19 11:48:29 ok Mar 19 11:48:34 i cannot see any other supply socket on the bone Mar 19 11:48:45 its not what i suspected. go ahead. Mar 19 11:49:02 once i set up manually the eth0 with usb cable Mar 19 11:49:29 after that it works without usb connection Mar 19 12:08:24 eagle: I thought I was having the same problem, but eventually realized that I wasn't being patient enough about waiting for the bone to become available sometimes. Mar 19 12:09:32 eagle: I thought that if it didn't show up within a minute or two, it wouldn't show up at all because there was something wrong. Mar 19 12:10:22 eagle: But in reality, it would sometimes take a few minutes to become accessible (perhaps the result of a different, less severe, problem). Mar 19 12:11:24 mdp: kernel question Mar 19 12:12:15 mdp: Low battery comperator output: gio-in-sysfs, gpio-keys, regulator or powersupply subsystem? Mar 19 12:16:51 koen: misc/ Mar 19 12:18:52 koen, low battery comparator? Mar 19 12:19:05 is that just a battery monitor thing? Mar 19 12:21:55 or truly a boolean thing Mar 19 12:23:40 mmm…nm..I googled :) Mar 19 12:23:54 av500, sounds about right Mar 19 12:41:09 * SilicaGel is bach Mar 19 12:41:22 sure, and I'm mozart Mar 19 12:45:31 DAH DAH DAH dummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Mar 19 12:47:01 koen, there's a drivers/mfd/tps65911-comparator.c that sounds like what you are talking about Mar 19 12:48:32 SilicaGel: thats beethoven 5th you are humming. Mar 19 12:49:19 welllllllllllllllllll I haven't had enough coffee yet today, I just need more time to compose myself. Mar 19 12:49:32 ugh Mar 19 12:50:15 I punno if I can handle much more Mar 19 12:50:40 heeee :) Mar 19 12:51:03 I say SilicaGel scored this round Mar 19 12:51:13 You can't buy this kind of humor. Mar 19 12:51:21 But that's only because we're all baroque Mar 19 12:58:14 beethoven was certainly not baroque, and neither was mozart... Mar 19 12:58:52 LetoThe2nd seems to have the full liszt Mar 19 12:59:44 * LetoThe2nd thinks SilicaGel might have meant more the meaning of "baroque forms" -> fat ladies. Mar 19 13:00:15 maybe, but I have to use the men's room now. I'll be back in a minuet. Mar 19 13:00:16 mru: hey you know, i'm a god emperor sandworm with the memory of some thousand generations. ;) Mar 19 13:00:45 strange. i meantion fat ladies and he runs off. Mar 19 13:03:20 did he fugue off? Mar 19 13:04:13 hrhrhr Mar 19 13:28:41 haha that was very good, but I think it's time for a rest Mar 19 13:34:23 *whew* Mar 19 16:35:22 does anybody use CCS v5 or sitara SDK for C++ coding? Mar 19 16:35:25 for the beaglebone Mar 19 16:36:08 * av500 does not Mar 19 16:44:41 what SDK do you suggest to use for C++? Mar 19 16:45:54 I just use the oe toolchain that angstrom uses and cross compile using eclipse Mar 19 16:46:23 not amazingly fancy but it's free Mar 19 16:46:35 so is plain old gcc Mar 19 16:46:40 and much easier to use Mar 19 16:46:54 well, yeah gcc does the actual compilation Mar 19 16:47:02 eclipse is just the ide Mar 19 16:47:13 eclipse is a cpu/memory hog Mar 19 16:47:16 *ahem* vim Mar 19 16:47:16 nothing else Mar 19 16:47:44 i stick to my old opinion. "SDK" is just a buzzword to sell unsupported/unsupportable hardware. Mar 19 16:48:00 not disagreeing with you mru, it just makes code editing a bit easier Mar 19 16:48:09 there are much better editors Mar 19 16:48:17 vim and emacs come to mind Mar 19 16:49:36 I use vim when I'm limited to terminal access.. otherwise not so much Mar 19 16:50:07 * thurbad is not much of a purist Mar 19 16:51:16 I mostly use emacs for things I have open for a long time, vim for quick edits when I'm already in a terminal Mar 19 16:56:19 is it possible to find a toolchain of angstrom distribution for Windows environment? Mar 19 16:56:47 hopefully not. Mar 19 16:57:32 run it in a vm Mar 19 16:57:33 sane operating systems are best developed with workstations running sane operating systems. Mar 19 16:58:37 I still do a lot of prototyping on the desktop Mar 19 16:58:51 using linux Mar 19 16:59:19 thurbad: linux counts as "mostly sane" ;) Mar 19 16:59:52 yeah, until you call sysfs stuff Mar 19 17:00:13 i said "mostly" :P Mar 19 17:01:58 remembers fun $PROPRIETARY-INSANE-OPERATING-SYSTEM few days ago, which would refuse to update a grphics driver because the harddisk underlying the home folders had changed. Mar 19 17:02:14 totally connected, those two things. certainly. Mar 19 17:03:26 sounds similar to windows unregistering itself because you replaced a drive :/ Mar 19 17:12:01 come on Mar 19 17:12:02 you can say it Mar 19 17:12:03 what was it Mar 19 17:12:07 vxworks? qnx? Mar 19 17:12:09 rtxc? Mar 19 17:12:36 * mru guesses windows Mar 19 17:15:05 * SilicaGel slaps ka6sox about a bit with an exceptionally large trout Mar 19 17:15:38 TMI Mar 19 17:16:32 wow, its been a long time since I've seen someone with a trout on irc Mar 19 17:17:04 a lot of vegetarians these days... Mar 19 17:17:14 it's sad that political correctness has driven most of the trout into pants. Mar 19 17:17:17 erm, I mean into hiding. Mar 19 17:27:35 mru guessed right Mar 19 17:28:12 see, I'm a professional Mar 19 17:28:41 LetoThe2nd: did you buy a license-to-change-hdd? you did not! yet you complain.... Mar 19 17:29:13 hrhr Mar 19 17:30:07 it was just like face->wall->harder->harder->harder Mar 19 17:32:59 mru: is there any professional embedded linux engineers in here? Mar 19 17:33:40 mranostay: nope, they're all busy finding out how to make a sierra modem work under ubuntu. Mar 19 17:35:41 I thought dan williams already fixed all that Mar 19 17:38:26 Russ: i have no doubt it works Mar 19 17:45:15 hello Mar 19 17:45:59 * mranostay gets the popcorn Mar 19 17:46:02 I am trying to get my beagleboard running, the kernel hangs at "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel." Mar 19 17:46:03 hi schick Mar 19 17:46:16 any ideas Mar 19 17:46:27 stock image? Mar 19 17:46:54 yes Mar 19 17:47:34 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ Mar 19 17:47:51 MLO, uboot and uImage Mar 19 17:48:08 mranostay, there are many professional trouts Mar 19 18:07:02 I'm having an issue with the beaglebone and a bluetooth USB dongle Mar 19 18:07:15 The dongle shows up in hciconfig, but give an error when I try to bring the interface up Mar 19 18:07:17 "Can't init device hci0: Connection timed out (110) Mar 19 18:07:17 " Mar 19 18:07:51 The same adapter works fine on a beagleboard_xm, using the same ubuntu image Mar 19 18:08:28 Any ideas as to how I might troubleshoot it? Mar 19 18:09:30 pastebin your results of lsmod? Mar 19 18:09:40 Sure, one sec Mar 19 18:10:04 http://pastebin.com/7uih8CZ2 Mar 19 18:10:10 That is on the bone Mar 19 18:11:21 And on the board xm: http://pastebin.com/dfH9ufNE Mar 19 18:11:24 hmm, looks like the relevant modules are loaded Mar 19 18:12:20 what about lsusb? Mar 19 18:12:39 I think it sounds nice Mar 19 18:12:50 lsusb from the bone: http://pastebin.com/iPy1Rhdg Mar 19 18:13:27 This is the actual dongle: http://sena.com/products/industrial_bluetooth/ud100.php Mar 19 18:14:16 I have a similar dongle Mar 19 18:14:33 not on the bone though Mar 19 18:15:09 tjb: got a dmesg | tail ? Mar 19 18:15:14 I've got one other dongle, but that gave the same message Mar 19 18:15:22 isbric: Sure, one sec Mar 19 18:15:42 Hello Beagle fans ! Mar 19 18:16:36 isbric: dmesg | tail http://pastebin.com/fGHxPpwk Mar 19 18:17:21 Can someone confirm to me that beaglebone have a DSP available as the beagleboard ? Google is not really verbose on this... Mar 19 18:17:31 it does not Mar 19 18:17:51 snif, thanks mru Mar 19 18:18:29 mru, maybe I'm confused... aren't DSP instructions part of the OMAP3? I thought I read that somewhere Mar 19 18:18:42 tjb: could possibly be a usb power issue? Mar 19 18:19:02 alan_o: some omap3 family chips have a dsp, some not Mar 19 18:19:08 do you have a powered hub you can run it through? Mar 19 18:19:14 thurbad: What can I do about that? I'm powering it over a wall plug Mar 19 18:19:31 alan_o, you are thinking of dsp enhancement instructions Mar 19 18:19:41 thurbad: No, but I can get a hold of one and give it a shot Mar 19 18:20:08 Russ: yes, I think so Mar 19 18:20:25 thurbad: I have had USB wifi antennas work fine though, so I have a feeling that isn't the issue Mar 19 18:20:31 mru, are you talking about a separate DSP core? Mar 19 18:20:39 just a hunch but the range on that is kind of high for bluetooth Mar 19 18:20:49 alan_o, it's not an OMAP3, is it? Mar 19 18:20:54 it doesn't say OMAP3 on it Mar 19 18:21:12 oh, bone, hmm... Mar 19 18:21:42 alan_o: no dsp core on the bone Mar 19 18:21:44 laurent_: second hit on google is the press release, with a feature list and a link to the AM3359 part page, also with an SoC featurelist..no DSP Mar 19 18:22:17 yeah, sorry, I was looking at the 3530 page. Mar 19 18:22:29 3530 never existed Mar 19 18:22:37 please un-see that page Mar 19 18:22:50 huh? Mar 19 18:22:56 3430 then? Mar 19 18:22:57 yeah, same. Mar 19 18:22:58 3530 is…inconvenient :) Mar 19 18:23:08 mru: 3430 never existed Mar 19 18:23:14 3730? Mar 19 18:23:20 yep Mar 19 18:23:23 4430? Mar 19 18:23:23 http://www.ti.com/dsp/docs/dspcontent.tsp?contentId=53403&DCMP=OMAP_Feb27_2008&HQS=Other+OT+omap35x Mar 19 18:23:24 that exists Mar 19 18:23:25 mdp: thanks but a lot of sources present beaglebone as beagleboard without video out and less powerful cpu, so it is a little confusing Mar 19 18:23:36 http://www.ti.com/product/omap3530 Mar 19 18:23:50 alan_o: stop making up fake links! :) Mar 19 18:24:00 av500: is the 3530 that bad? Mar 19 18:24:09 mru: yes, the silicon yield is BAD Mar 19 18:24:11 laurent_: I guess trade rags have to make up something to print Mar 19 18:24:14 and its huge Mar 19 18:24:21 so its $$$ To make Mar 19 18:24:29 so TI does not want anybody to use it any more Mar 19 18:24:34 37xx is of course better Mar 19 18:24:37 yep Mar 19 18:24:53 we support 37xx at least :) Mar 19 18:25:03 3530…not supported Mar 19 18:25:29 Is the 3530 not the one on the Beagle Board? Mar 19 18:25:38 it is Mar 19 18:25:40 beagleboard.org support the beagleboard Mar 19 18:25:42 I feel like there's a joke going on here that I'm the only one who doesn't get it :) Mar 19 18:25:49 alan_o: thats fine Mar 19 18:25:58 thurbad: thanks for the input, ill give it a shot when i get a chance Mar 19 18:26:06 alan_o: that just makes it funnier Mar 19 18:26:19 mru: yes, I'm sure it does.... Mar 19 18:26:49 Hello, BeagleBuddies! :-) Mar 19 18:27:08 Well, you know, you never know when someone is going to come back and say, "yeah, it says 3530, but it's really a 3531, and ......" Mar 19 18:27:18 alan_o, we're laughing with you, at least. Mar 19 18:35:37 alan_o, fwiw, I think you'll find even more differences once you dig into those parts…such as the display controller…ethernets..etc. Mar 19 18:35:53 which parts are those? Mar 19 18:35:54 before you know it, you realize they are made for somewhat different purposes Mar 19 18:36:02 bone vs beagleboard? Mar 19 18:36:16 35xx and 37xx are very similar Mar 19 18:36:17 omap3530/dm3730 vs am3359 (yes, beagleboard vs. bone) Mar 19 18:36:25 33xx is quite different Mar 19 18:36:35 mdp: oh yeah, definitely Mar 19 18:37:23 hello, I am trying to get the beagleboard running Mar 19 18:38:12 but I do not get any kernel output... 'Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel' Mar 19 18:38:32 is there a step-by-step howto get the beagleboard C4 working Mar 19 18:39:05 how recent is the kernel you're using? Mar 19 18:39:33 Angstrom/3.0.17/beagleboard Mar 19 18:39:52 I might get an older one Mar 19 18:39:53 the c4 nand sets the environment to use ttyS2, newer kernels use ttyO2 for the serial port Mar 19 18:40:31 yes Mar 19 18:40:49 I updated the nand via setenv/saveenv Mar 19 18:41:15 and you used captial o not zero? Mar 19 18:41:26 O, not a number Mar 19 18:42:06 how long are you waiting/is the SD activity light blinking? Mar 19 18:42:47 just rebooting the beagleboard Mar 19 18:43:05 USR0 is blinking Mar 19 18:43:28 USR1 was on for a short time Mar 19 18:43:33 now is off again Mar 19 18:43:57 uSR0 still blinking Mar 19 18:43:59 schick: pastebin a full boot log Mar 19 18:44:18 and for our all benefit, please wipe the nand and boot from SD only Mar 19 18:44:21 well, there is nothing, that could be pasted Mar 19 18:44:26 there is Mar 19 18:44:39 please wipe the nand Mar 19 18:44:55 stop uboot and do "nanderase" or "nand erase" Mar 19 18:44:58 I thought you said you got to the booting kernel message? Mar 19 18:45:18 yes I got booting the kernel Mar 19 18:45:22 hello, i am trying to setup a ethernet connection using g_ether.. trying modprobe g_ether ; ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 ... following this instructions http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners#Connect_with_your_beagleboard_using_VNC_and_ethernet_over_USB whatever i do, i cannot see any reaction from the host except once. Just one time, my mac reported a new network connection of RNDIS. Mar 19 18:45:24 but thats not a kernel message Mar 19 18:45:28 * av500 is tired of debugging stuff that is due to ancient mlo and uboot in nand Mar 19 18:45:30 its from uboot, isnt it? Mar 19 18:45:36 schick: yes Mar 19 18:45:41 pastebin the full boot log Mar 19 18:45:43 i don't know how that happened. Mar 19 18:45:47 no, but it is part of the bootlog Mar 19 18:47:12 nand erase, -> Mar 19 18:47:20 should i use usb-otg cable to use g_ether based.. ethernet connection? Mar 19 18:47:23 now thing comes up anymore Mar 19 18:47:30 good Mar 19 18:47:37 now prepare a correct sdcard Mar 19 18:47:52 I thought, I did it Mar 19 18:47:52 you now need to set up your boot partition correctly Mar 19 18:48:03 pilote: yes, g_ether is for usb Mar 19 18:48:22 ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 also hints at that stronly Mar 19 18:48:24 strongly Mar 19 18:49:02 pilote: is the storage card mounted on your Mac? Mar 19 18:49:27 no it is mounted on the board. Mar 19 18:49:48 with angstrom image. Mar 19 18:49:49 no i meant 'mounted' as in mounted as a filesystem that shows up as /Volumes/BEAGLE_* Mar 19 18:50:01 ah.. Mar 19 18:50:03 if I keep the user button pressed, it tells me 40W Mar 19 18:50:08 no. Mar 19 18:50:08 but thats it Mar 19 18:50:23 Ok, eliminates *that* ;-) hmmm Mar 19 18:50:40 should it be like that? Mar 19 18:50:44 schick: you need to set up your sd properly Mar 19 18:51:09 if it is mounted, then you have to eject the volume---this triggers the activation of the usb RNDIS ethernet Mar 19 18:51:14 specifically is the boot partition set to bootable, etc... Mar 19 18:51:35 no it is not mounted... Mar 19 18:51:35 schick: 40W is the cpu trying to boot from serial Mar 19 18:51:48 thats good, the CPU is still alive :) Mar 19 18:51:54 hehe Mar 19 18:52:16 so whats next? Mar 19 18:52:30 it have never been mounted to the host.. Mar 19 18:52:41 is it happen? Mar 19 18:52:44 @.@ Mar 19 18:52:45 schick: create a correctly formatted card Mar 19 18:52:52 you can use the mkcard.sh script Mar 19 18:53:01 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ Mar 19 18:53:06 schick: its all there: ^^^^ Mar 19 18:53:13 ok, that's what I did: 'two partitions one fat32, one ext3' Mar 19 18:53:18 yes Mar 19 18:53:25 you could also grab one if the images here for a start: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/sd-images/2gb/ Mar 19 18:53:28 I used these files Mar 19 18:53:28 that's kinda odd, since my first boot automagically did that (err, just to ensure I have the right context, we talking about BBone or BBoard/xm?) Mar 19 18:53:29 and make sure to put MLO, uboot on in the correct order Mar 19 18:53:32 they are a bit old, but should work fine on your C4 Mar 19 18:53:44 ok Mar 19 18:53:49 BBoard. Mar 19 18:53:56 K Mar 19 18:53:56 i am using rev c5 Mar 19 18:54:51 I have a beagleboard C4 Mar 19 18:54:51 i downloaded this image from angstrom online builder.. Mar 19 18:55:05 task-extended.. is it ok? Mar 19 18:55:32 well, anyway it contains.. g_ether... Mar 19 18:55:37 now I am downloading 'Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.sd-image-2GiB.img.bz2 ' Mar 19 18:55:43 Not entirely sure (I tend to use the TI SDK much more :) Mar 19 18:56:17 if i check.. dmesg | grep g_ether after modprobe. it says g_ether ready... Mar 19 18:56:31 pilote: and usb cable plugged? Mar 19 18:56:32 no error msg... Mar 19 18:56:35 … though I've never had any issues with the Ångström distro either (mostly for demo) Mar 19 18:56:41 yes. Mar 19 18:57:01 does ifconfig -a show it ? Mar 19 18:57:02 i try to plugin after i start g_ether. Mar 19 18:57:14 just ifconfig shows Mar 19 18:57:17 usb0 Mar 19 18:57:53 i m just really wondering on the procedure... Mar 19 18:58:06 what is on the other end of the cable? Mar 19 18:58:43 g_ether is fun Mar 19 18:58:44 pilote: could you pastebin a lsmod? Mar 19 18:58:54 does it detected first as somewhat usb device on host machine AND THEN have to start g_ether. .. or... Mar 19 18:59:13 moment Mar 19 18:59:51 pilote: g_ether is a two way thing.. start g_ether on device then detect the device on the host. Mar 19 18:59:55 http://pastebin.com/k89jwSWY Mar 19 19:00:23 pilote: in both cases you need to configure usbx to some range that hopefully matches the other end Mar 19 19:00:37 hmm, is musb a module to be loaded? Mar 19 19:00:44 or is it compiled in? Mar 19 19:01:03 eg 10.0.0.1/24 and 10.0.0.2/24 (iirc 31 is right) Mar 19 19:01:10 then you can ping the one from the other etc Mar 19 19:01:17 it is not there by default. Mar 19 19:01:18 av500: depends on your kernel config ey Mar 19 19:01:28 have to start after Mar 19 19:01:45 i'd guess a modprobe musb_foobar is missing Mar 19 19:02:03 unsolo_: oh really? :) Mar 19 19:02:22 anyhow if g_ether goes in i guess so does musb right ? Mar 19 19:02:34 then ifconfig -a whill list the usbx Mar 19 19:02:35 unsolo_: sorry. what is later numbers.. 24? Mar 19 19:02:41 pilote: subnet Mar 19 19:02:49 "eye" Mar 19 19:03:18 oops... then... ? i am using 255.255.255.0 is it 24? Mar 19 19:03:19 could be 31 as well iirc Mar 19 19:03:26 pilote: yes Mar 19 19:03:27 24 bits? Mar 19 19:03:30 ahha;; Mar 19 19:03:36 ACK off to a meeting! BBIAM! Mar 19 19:03:38 but you can do ifconfig x.x.x.x/24 as well or even 31 Mar 19 19:03:52 less effort than writing 255.255.255.xxx Mar 19 19:04:20 now 255.255.255.xxx can be copied/pasted :) Mar 19 19:04:49 av500 : is modprobe musb_footer missing? Mar 19 19:04:56 should i type that too? Mar 19 19:05:07 musb_something Mar 19 19:05:13 I dont know the exact name Mar 19 19:05:23 what is that for? Mar 19 19:05:26 musb_hdrc Mar 19 19:05:30 the usb controller Mar 19 19:05:49 ah Mar 19 19:07:23 by the way. i check dmesg.. something wierd.. Mar 19 19:07:23 http://pastebin.com/Le0MDQWA Mar 19 19:07:41 is this acceptable or not? Mar 19 19:07:50 :( Mar 19 19:08:12 SD cards suck film at 11 Mar 19 19:08:43 er wait flash sucks Mar 19 19:08:48 * mranostay needs more coffee Mar 19 19:09:26 theres lots of IO errors on mtdblock1 Mar 19 19:10:44 i did nand erase once.. to upgrade u-boot.. maybe this causes these? Mar 19 19:11:05 @.@ ;;; Mar 19 19:12:03 * unsolo_ guesses pilote has a yay old beagle Mar 19 19:12:36 um.. mine is.. BBoard c5 Mar 19 19:13:16 theoretically one can boot of the mmc on that one as well right ? Mar 19 19:13:31 unsolo_: yes Mar 19 19:13:54 in case of a severly degraded nand flash or something Mar 19 19:14:09 although one could also change the type of fs on the nand to something safe.. Mar 19 19:14:20 uhuh;;; Mar 19 19:14:29 pilote: not saying that you have one Mar 19 19:14:43 im just thinking out loud here.. Mar 19 19:14:54 just do nand erase Mar 19 19:14:56 no prob.. ; Mar 19 19:15:01 and boot from SD Mar 19 19:15:14 without nand. right? Mar 19 19:15:18 mmcboot Mar 19 19:15:24 yes, boot from SD Mar 19 19:15:33 with empty nand, revC will boot from SD Mar 19 19:15:48 the on die rom code will fail to load nand ;) Mar 19 19:16:58 btw anyone with extensive knowledge on how to boot up a busybox based ramdisk around ? Mar 19 19:17:29 sorry but.. which range should i erase? maybe nand erase 0 80000 ? Mar 19 19:17:35 all of it Mar 19 19:17:42 just type nand erase Mar 19 19:17:45 it shoud delete all Mar 19 19:17:48 k Mar 19 19:18:02 av500: would be nice to actually help him get a working mmc as well ;) Mar 19 19:18:13 no, I am going home now :) Mar 19 19:18:16 somebody on the mailing list says they got TiWi-R2 working on a bone Mar 19 19:18:21 i did nand erase.chip Mar 19 19:18:21 I want to know details but they didn't share Mar 19 19:18:35 "bricking" two revC today is enough work for me :) Mar 19 19:18:41 SilicaGel: they're selling the blueprints for $10 on ebay Mar 19 19:18:48 av500: haha Mar 19 19:19:00 actual blueprints? With the blue ink that smells like vinegar? Mar 19 19:19:04 anyway.. booting.. well;; Mar 19 19:19:06