**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 28 02:59:59 2012 Mar 28 03:20:02 morning all Mar 28 03:20:32 anybody here? :) Mar 28 03:23:18 guess not Mar 28 03:23:33 nope Mar 28 03:24:00 hehe :) Mar 28 03:26:07 adafruit the only once that have beaglebone starter kit? Mar 28 03:28:04 starter kit? Mar 28 03:29:36 yea Mar 28 03:29:37 like https://www.adafruit.com/products/703 Mar 28 03:29:39 :P Mar 28 03:32:58 makes it so easy to get it all with one package so to speak :9 Mar 28 03:33:00 :)* Mar 28 03:33:10 yeah i guess Mar 28 03:33:21 * mranostay digs around for his troll hat Mar 28 03:38:07 http://bash.org/?152037 Mar 28 03:38:11 speaking of trolls Mar 28 04:37:45 Hi all. :) Mar 28 04:37:56 I just got my board today. Mar 28 04:42:55 WiFiGuy: totally awesome dude! omg ponies! Mar 28 04:43:04 :D Mar 28 04:44:21 did you get the starter kit? Mar 28 04:44:45 Yup. Mar 28 04:44:59 A5 starter kit from adafruit Mar 28 04:45:17 so what are your plans for it? Mar 28 04:45:55 jay69811: probably running websphere on it Mar 28 04:46:07 heh Mar 28 04:47:02 I'm not sure what I'll do yet. Mar 28 04:47:48 are you from utica, ny? Mar 28 04:47:53 heh Mar 28 04:48:21 I got an LED to light up, and then I got it to blink with mrBBIO Mar 28 04:48:25 btw that web irc proxy was a bad idea :) Mar 28 04:48:38 jay69811: Me? Mar 28 04:48:55 are you doing the cloud9 thing? Mar 28 04:48:57 mranostay: ? I'm not using the web proxy. :) Mar 28 04:49:14 I'm not from Utica. Mar 28 04:49:19 Are you googling my handle? :P Mar 28 04:49:47 no Mar 28 04:49:50 I've played with cloud9 a tiny bit... I'm updating my packages right now, so it's a bit slow. Mar 28 04:50:02 You? Mar 28 04:50:07 What're your plans? Mar 28 04:50:19 no starter kits here Mar 28 04:50:20 i'm detecting radiation atm Mar 28 04:50:27 and not a starter kit Mar 28 04:50:32 o.o Mar 28 04:50:54 my plan is to write a bare metal MP3 player from scratch Mar 28 04:50:57 Are you using C, by chance? Mar 28 04:51:03 I'm curious how to get that working with cloud9 Mar 28 04:51:58 never used cloud9 nor would i want to Mar 28 04:51:59 yes, C. no idea with cloud9 Mar 28 04:53:03 mranostay: Haha. What language(s) Mar 28 04:54:45 C but i wouldn't use a IDE and for sure not a web based one Mar 28 04:55:14 vi? Mar 28 04:55:22 the whole bonescript ide thing is great and all but i don't think it's really usable yet Mar 28 04:55:23 yeah Mar 28 04:55:35 if you like coding in js then yeah Mar 28 04:55:39 you probably want to stick with normal linux type dev Mar 28 04:56:04 bonescript 'delay()' was still a busywait last i tried it Mar 28 04:56:10 I like the idea of lazily writing C in the web browser... you can hear the fabric of the universe rip every so slightly. :D Mar 28 04:56:16 100% cpu to not blink an led ;) Mar 28 04:57:06 WiFiGuy: haha Mar 28 04:57:48 javascript is a decent language Mar 28 04:58:06 i have no objections to the idea in general Mar 28 04:58:14 i just think it's not fully implemented yet Mar 28 04:58:25 give'm a few months and see Mar 28 04:58:49 otherwise, things like python/perl/c are there waiting for you Mar 28 04:58:59 perl is a horrible language Mar 28 04:59:05 okay Mar 28 04:59:18 please don't say perl and C in the same sentence :) Mar 28 04:59:22 I'm using Python with mrBBIO Mar 28 04:59:32 i have written both of them for a living Mar 28 04:59:40 i'll say them however i want :) Mar 28 04:59:40 I used to write in Perl. ;) Mar 28 04:59:57 perl is not horrible, but people write horrible perl code Mar 28 05:00:09 the same can be said of any language Mar 28 05:00:24 Perl makes it easy to write bad code. ;) Mar 28 05:00:27 perl may make it a little easier Mar 28 05:00:29 $_ is not your friend. Mar 28 05:00:39 Especially when it's implied. Mar 28 05:00:53 they proved that perl was worse than a randomly generated language for beginer programmers making programming mistakes Mar 28 05:00:53 perl makes it easy to spot lax discipline Mar 28 05:01:12 eg, anyone using $_ Mar 28 05:01:41 Ah... I saw that article. Mar 28 05:01:43 we have to bolt on external tools to the build process with C - lint, coverity, etc Mar 28 05:01:52 to do the same as perl gives you with -w and use strict; Mar 28 05:02:01 i'd give perl the advantage over C there. Mar 28 05:02:31 anyway, this was not the discussion i was trying to have. Mar 28 05:02:32 scromp: What are you doing with the beaglebone Mar 28 05:03:08 i have one beaglebone rightnow, and it is in search of a purpose. it has an xbee on it, and it tells various arduinos to do things Mar 28 05:03:24 however i would like to make better use of its copious i/o capabilities Mar 28 05:03:47 luckily perl doesn't run on bare metal so it's not something I have to deal with Mar 28 05:03:49 I'd love to get my serial port working >:O Mar 28 05:04:14 It's 115200 8N1 right? Mar 28 05:04:28 it's whatever you told your xbee to do Mar 28 05:04:39 I mean... the beaglebone Mar 28 05:04:40 there are a couple of decent blogs on this Mar 28 05:04:43 sec Mar 28 05:05:08 Hrm... mine's a rework'd A5 - maybe it's using the old FTDI vendor value Mar 28 05:05:20 Yeah I know. :) I'm just wondering why mine isn't working. Mar 28 05:05:27 I see 2 serial ports but neither works. Mar 28 05:05:52 I think I bricked it. Mar 28 05:05:59 Maybe that's why. Mar 28 05:06:00 1) http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/01/22/beaglebone-coding-101-using-the-serial-and-analog-pins/ Mar 28 05:06:07 2) http://electricstitches.com/blog/2012/03/22/xbee-beaglebone-communication/ Mar 28 05:06:22 No no no I mean - talking to my beaglebone over serial ;) Mar 28 05:06:37 that should do it still Mar 28 05:06:43 I'm going to reboot. Mar 28 05:06:49 it's general "how to drive the pins" guides really Mar 28 05:06:53 .. Mar 28 05:07:05 * scromp goes back to Draw Something Mar 28 05:11:10 back Mar 28 05:11:22 err :) Mar 28 05:12:28 Serial is working now. My computer was being grumpy. Mar 28 05:21:58 Anybody using clang on the bb? Mar 28 05:28:06 Ooo bonescript update. Mar 28 06:06:25 anybody try to build angstrom in the last day? /me getting a weird-assed inscrutible non-zero exit from do_rootfs from a MACHINE=beaglebone bitbake systemd-image Mar 28 06:09:44 * mranostay takes shot and puts on troll hat Mar 28 06:10:08 russell--: come again? Mar 28 06:33:07 mranostay: MACHINE=beaglebone bitbake systemd-image keeps erroring Mar 28 06:38:35 NOTE: package systemd-image-1.0-r0: task do_rootfs: Failed Mar 28 06:38:35 ERROR: Task 8 (/aux/src/angst/setup-scripts/sources/meta-angstrom/recipes-images/angstrom/systemd-image.bb, do_rootfs) failed with exit code '1' Mar 28 07:22:35 I did an opkg update/upgrade and now my beaglebone doesn't mount its filesystem, nor do I seem to have access to the USB network interface. Mar 28 07:48:52 How does one interface directly with the GPIO pins using C? IOCTLs? Mar 28 07:52:31 google for 'linux sysfs gpio' Mar 28 07:52:40 use sysfs or gpio-functions, see kernel docs, Documentation/gpio.txt Mar 28 07:52:48 I found examples of people doing it with the /sys filesystem, but is there direct kernel access? Mar 28 07:52:52 ok Mar 28 07:52:52 thanks Mar 28 07:53:32 I think, there's no ioctl interface Mar 28 07:53:55 other option is to write driver and use gpiolib in kernel directly Mar 28 07:54:27 or from userspace you can fiddle with the registers directly Mar 28 07:55:38 why do such things while kernel exposes functions such as gpio_get_value and gpio_set_value? Mar 28 07:56:01 that's gpiolib I'm talking about Mar 28 07:56:22 but it's in the kernel, so he would need to write some kernel module Mar 28 07:57:02 aren't those exposed to userspace? Mar 28 07:57:21 yes, via that sysfs interface Mar 28 07:57:27 ok, my bad Mar 28 07:57:48 Thanks for the tips. :) Mar 28 07:58:08 look at devmem2 for mmaped register access Mar 28 07:58:21 maybe there's more examples in the mailing list archives Mar 28 07:59:54 bear in mind, that this sysfs interface isn't fast enough for PWM and similar stuff Mar 28 08:00:17 so it depends what're you planning to do with gpio :) Mar 28 08:01:02 Hmm that's also good to know. Mar 28 08:01:12 How do you do PWM with something like Python then? Mar 28 08:02:25 Ah hold that thought... it's late, and I have a meeting in the morning. I'll be back tomorrow. :) Mar 28 08:02:27 Thanks again. Mar 28 08:10:07 sounds like a classic X-Y-problem Mar 28 08:11:38 indeed. Mar 28 08:12:28 X-Y-doh? Mar 28 08:13:32 ynezz: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem Mar 28 08:15:03 nice :) Mar 28 08:15:34 and so very very true Mar 28 09:08:27 google shipped me a free googleTV box Mar 28 09:08:40 now if it was useful for anything outside the US.... Mar 28 09:10:59 hi, do anybody know how to do a digitalread with beaglescript in the clound 9 interface? Mar 28 11:47:43 koen: have you tried suspend/resume on beaglebone w/ latest code? Mar 28 11:56:20 av500: you blackmailed them?] Mar 28 12:01:08 no Mar 28 12:01:23 somebody pasted me a link to some google doc where I entered a few details Mar 28 12:01:28 and then I got one Mar 28 12:05:38 d'oh Mar 28 12:07:51 d'oh? Mar 28 12:08:08 av500: somebody pasted the link in here? Mar 28 12:09:14 av500: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=d%27oh&qscrl=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og Mar 28 12:11:23 sundar: here? I dont think so Mar 28 12:11:32 dwery: yes, I know what, I meant why :) Mar 28 12:11:46 'cos I missed it ;) Mar 28 12:11:50 ah Mar 28 12:12:29 I've an AppleTV, which is obviously superior, ma it's always useful to have an arm device lying around ;) Mar 28 12:17:21 The beaglebone is little endian, right? Mar 28 12:18:42 mostly yes Mar 28 12:19:03 av500, what kind of exceptions are there? Mar 28 12:19:26 if you touch gptimer12, it switches endianness on the fly. Mar 28 12:19:34 none for practical purposes Mar 28 12:19:40 dwery: toggles with each tick? Mar 28 12:19:47 and tock Mar 28 12:19:56 yes, at f=32.768KHz Mar 28 12:34:46 What is the difference between the "normal" kernel at kernel.org and linux-omap? Mar 28 12:35:02 one is nice, one works Mar 28 12:35:29 is there one that works nicely? Mar 28 12:35:39 yes, psp+patches Mar 28 12:35:39 Cute. How about a bit more substantive answer? Mar 28 12:35:54 sheem-on: its the typical downstream upstream situation Mar 28 12:36:04 kernel.org is the upstream Mar 28 12:36:06 you mean typical ifdef hell Mar 28 12:36:27 so eventually all features from l-o should get to k.o Mar 28 12:36:38 some also get KO'd Mar 28 12:36:48 mru: #ifdef HELL brun #endif? Mar 28 12:36:53 Thanx! I will continue tracking the normal kenrel for non ARM, and start tracking OMAP. Mar 28 12:36:55 burn, even. Mar 28 12:37:14 sheem-on: for beagle, the TI PSP kernel + patches is actually the more functional Mar 28 12:37:24 and the one used by e.g. angstrom Mar 28 12:37:27 sheem-on: my typical "embedded Linux" philosophy is track kernel.org unless you can't Mar 28 12:37:40 or unless it gets hacked Mar 28 12:37:48 ha well... Mar 28 12:38:10 But if the kernel.org kernel works on your hardware and provides the features you need and you have no issues with it... Mar 28 12:38:10 LetoThe2nd: oh, a typo... I thought it was some misspelled german-dutch mixup of beer styles Mar 28 12:38:15 it's sort of like "stable" vs "beta" Mar 28 12:38:30 you use "beta" only if you really need some extra feature or if the stable is broken for you Mar 28 12:38:49 mru: yes, distinguishing between beer and fire/destruction can be hard sometimes. Mar 28 12:39:04 beer does not burn Mar 28 12:39:30 though I suppose it can cause some destruction Mar 28 12:39:34 if used irresponsibly Mar 28 12:39:44 thats what i meant. Mar 28 13:18:24 * mdp wonders how "linux-omap" even specifies a particular kernel Mar 28 13:20:01 neither does kernel.org Mar 28 13:20:48 :) Mar 28 13:21:14 I saw linux-omap, then I see people talking about psp+patches, whereas linux-omap implies tony's tree :) Mar 28 13:21:20 usual crazy talk here Mar 28 13:21:41 yes, omap is totally fucked Mar 28 13:21:46 agreed Mar 28 13:22:25 funny thing, I was reading some omappedia page the other day..and it explains how tony's tree is upstream for omap3 and kernel.org is upstream for omap4…haha Mar 28 13:22:42 funny indeed Mar 28 13:22:49 then again, it was on a wiki Mar 28 13:22:53 right Mar 28 13:23:44 I was arm twisted into having a summary page on the processors wiki for what our team is doing Mar 28 13:23:47 the problem is that most wikis are written be people unable to find the correct answer from authoritative souces Mar 28 13:23:56 it's really too painful to update regularly Mar 28 13:24:14 well, there is no authoritative source as to which kernel is *the* kernel Mar 28 13:24:26 torvalds? Mar 28 13:24:31 one ring... Mar 28 13:24:45 so here's how I addressed that internally…since the term "mainline" was so horribly abused wrt kernel Mar 28 13:25:29 had boss' slideware add a slide showing what is on http://kernel.org/ Mar 28 13:26:12 all suggested that anybody using any other definition for "mainline" wrt kernel be walked out the door Mar 28 13:26:19 s/all/also/ Mar 28 13:26:35 kernel.org hosts both torvalds and l-o Mar 28 13:26:50 it hosts anything the hackers upload Mar 28 13:26:51 "upstream" I have no idea how to address sanely Mar 28 13:26:56 pssssst, you'll just drive him insane ;) Mar 28 13:27:23 although anything on kernel.org is probably closer to upstream/mainline than something hosted elsewhere Mar 28 13:27:37 mru, the point is what is on the homepage is the agreed upon mainline kernel :) Mar 28 13:27:49 oh, the front page of kernel.org? Mar 28 13:28:00 that's why I gave a url Mar 28 13:28:13 so mainline == torvalds Mar 28 13:28:15 hmm, I wonder if I should start calling frankenkernels 'lakes' as there is not much of 'stream' there, or maybe 'puddle' Mar 28 13:28:16 makes sense Mar 28 13:28:24 yes, it says so quite clearly Mar 28 13:28:43 it's hard for manglement to dispute the kernel.org homepage Mar 28 13:29:09 yes, for mainline mainline Mar 28 13:29:16 heh Mar 28 13:29:17 but there is also omap mainline Mar 28 13:29:21 and psp mainline Mar 28 13:29:23 blech Mar 28 13:29:25 and numerous sidelines Mar 28 13:29:34 and no lifelines Mar 28 13:29:49 s/mainline/fork/ Mar 28 13:29:50 hey folks Mar 28 13:30:02 hardcore forking action, if you will Mar 28 13:30:03 guyz i have a doubt Mar 28 13:30:13 maybe even a question Mar 28 13:30:13 you have no idea how many doubts I have Mar 28 13:30:19 how do i determine the COM port of my beaglebone Mar 28 13:30:22 ?? Mar 28 13:30:24 * dm8tbr doubts viggi1's doubts Mar 28 13:30:26 viggi1: can I ask you something? Mar 28 13:30:28 im using WIn xp Mar 28 13:30:37 yeah? Mar 28 13:30:44 I doubt I know winders now Mar 28 13:30:52 why do people from india say "doubt" instead of "question"? Mar 28 13:30:59 * dm8tbr winds up mdp Mar 28 13:31:09 hmmm school thought us so :P Mar 28 13:31:22 sorry if its bothering ...... Mar 28 13:31:25 no Mar 28 13:31:29 just curious Mar 28 13:31:34 k Mar 28 13:31:43 so hey can u answer my question? Mar 28 13:31:46 :P Mar 28 13:31:55 i checked Hyperterminal Mar 28 13:31:59 eeek Mar 28 13:32:18 i cant find my COM port in device managers under Ports option Mar 28 13:32:28 well, then there is no com port Mar 28 13:32:33 ? Mar 28 13:32:34 I think you need some driver installed Mar 28 13:32:39 i installed Mar 28 13:32:41 for the FTDI chip on the bone Mar 28 13:32:50 i got the Cloud 9 working Mar 28 13:33:02 do you see the FTDI chip on control panel? Mar 28 13:33:05 and as usual with ftdi, you have to hack in the custom device id Mar 28 13:33:08 i installed drivers given in the Sd card Mar 28 13:33:13 (you also got your enter key working, i verified that!) Mar 28 13:33:43 LetoThe2nd ok? Mar 28 13:34:09 viggi1: never mind. just go on. Mar 28 13:34:24 ok so well i did install the FTDI drivers given in the SD card Mar 28 13:34:34 any sugessions? Mar 28 13:34:53 well, installs can go wrong Mar 28 13:35:05 hmm ill try agn Mar 28 13:35:06 if you dont see the FTDI in hardware manager, something is wron Mar 28 13:35:08 g Mar 28 13:35:17 I doubt the COM port question will be the last if Cloud 9 is involved Mar 28 13:35:55 mpd : i dont understand can u explain? Mar 28 13:36:32 I'm suggesting that Cloud 9 may not be the ideal development environment Mar 28 13:36:41 yeah i agree Mar 28 13:37:00 i want to push in some C programs Mar 28 13:37:11 i have to usae SSH i suppose Mar 28 13:37:12 :/ Mar 28 13:37:39 yes, ssh is an option Mar 28 13:37:39 the driver recognized beaglebone Mar 28 13:37:39 * mdp also idly wonders how frustrating the silent b in doubt is for non-native english speakers Mar 28 13:37:58 mdp: on irc its not silent :) Mar 28 13:38:01 well tried again Mar 28 13:38:09 mdp: roughly the same as the one in subtle, I'd guess Mar 28 13:38:10 and it shows sucess Mar 28 13:38:13 av500, subtle! Mar 28 13:38:22 there's another one! Mar 28 13:38:36 dm8tbr: their -> there -> they're Mar 28 13:38:43 * av500 has su'tle dou'ts Mar 28 13:38:47 mdp: ^^^^^^ Mar 28 13:38:53 dm8tbr: sry for highlighting Mar 28 13:38:58 LetoThe2nd: gaaaah Mar 28 13:39:30 guyz? Mar 28 13:39:39 now before SSH Mar 28 13:39:44 mru: oh you happen to know Gaaaah too, the village troll? Mar 28 13:39:49 before ssh there was telnet Mar 28 13:39:49 shud i eject my beaglebone? Mar 28 13:40:01 oh yeah i knew tat :) Mar 28 13:40:02 \o/ eject!!! Mar 28 13:40:07 ? Mar 28 13:40:16 * LetoThe2nd likes ejecting things. Mar 28 13:40:26 did you ram the bone in the floppy drive? Mar 28 13:40:33 hmm double meaning :P Mar 28 13:40:41 no Mar 28 13:40:47 good Mar 28 13:40:53 it might damage the drive Mar 28 13:40:56 nice to hear Mar 28 13:41:05 CD drive i suppose Mar 28 13:41:15 how many here use a floppy drive> Mar 28 13:41:23 mru: so no ejecting? :((( Mar 28 13:41:52 y u no not answering my questions? Mar 28 13:42:18 LetoThe2nd: that one annoys me..when I see it in formal writing from professionals :) Mar 28 13:43:10 mru, 8" floppy drive Mar 28 13:43:31 haven't seen one of those in a very long time Mar 28 13:43:40 computer history museum doesn't count Mar 28 13:44:07 mdp: well, i can live with it give the fact that the person tried to write a full word, and miserably failed. whenever somebody talks to me like "y r u" or stuff like that, i just tend to be largely ignorant. i mean, i'm not 7 years old anymore. we can talk like adults. Mar 28 13:44:08 yeah, been a while for me Mar 28 13:45:19 mru, it was archaic when I was an intern and a recovery systems for some older deployed ATMs where I was working used a CP/M machine with 8" floppy to reload the firmware Mar 28 13:45:23 i think we still use floppies for some banking thing here... Mar 28 13:46:04 it's a long time since I've seen even a 5" floppy in production use Mar 28 13:46:20 I did see one as recently as 10 years ago Mar 28 13:46:21 could you please answer this doubt? * question Should you SSH after ejecting your Beaglebone or should it not be ejected? Mar 28 13:46:37 but then, we were still testing code by a cycle of erasing eproms in the UV oven back then :) Mar 28 13:47:35 viggi1: you can try both Mar 28 13:47:55 k will give it a shot Mar 28 13:48:10 any software for mapping the COM ports? Mar 28 13:48:18 mru, hrm..I've been looking at this box of apple ii floppies and wondering if any data is still recoverable..pretty sure they're all games and hacking text files from back then Mar 28 13:49:08 considering as I have no working apple ii drive around this whole thing continues as a thought experiment Mar 28 13:49:33 av500, koen's rule #3? Mar 28 13:49:48 viggi1: yes, control panel hardware manager Mar 28 13:50:00 its in stock windows since win3 Mar 28 13:50:09 ok Mar 28 13:50:21 i cant find it on my COM ports yet Mar 28 13:50:26 then its not there Mar 28 13:50:30 then something went wron Mar 28 13:50:32 in ports list Mar 28 13:50:38 :( Mar 28 13:50:41 there is no "hidden com port" feature in windows Mar 28 13:50:47 beaglebone might fit in a Zip drive slot if the RJ45 is removed Mar 28 13:50:55 any sugessions? Mar 28 13:51:22 mdp: I think the expansion headers are thicker than a zip drive Mar 28 13:51:39 viggi1: not many windows experts here Mar 28 13:51:47 hmmm Mar 28 13:52:08 mru, ugh, ok, forget that experiment then Mar 28 13:52:11 just use linux Mar 28 13:52:49 ^or get a mac :(\ Mar 28 13:53:04 if you are such inclined Mar 28 13:54:10 winscp would work>? Mar 28 13:54:29 even if SSH worked? Mar 28 13:55:20 *dint work Mar 28 13:55:49 unlikely Mar 28 13:56:33 mm kk Mar 28 14:01:36 av500: The bone_drv is driver setup? Mar 28 14:03:43 ? Mar 28 14:04:56 what is bone_drv? Mar 28 14:05:22 install package of drivers Mar 28 14:05:25 i installed Mar 28 14:05:49 and it installs correctly and well idk wat to do now Mar 28 14:07:25 do you see the bone as an usb device in the hardware manager? Mar 28 14:08:13 jus a sec Mar 28 14:08:17 before i eject yes Mar 28 14:08:51 and it say what? Mar 28 14:08:56 says Mar 28 14:09:06 it shows Beaglebone in other devices Mar 28 14:09:29 not in USB Mar 28 14:09:30 so its not recognized by its driver Mar 28 14:09:40 yes Mar 28 14:09:41 it shows in usb too, I am sure Mar 28 14:09:55 jus a sec Mar 28 14:10:06 USB mass storage Mar 28 14:11:20 it shows up as USB mass storage Mar 28 14:13:53 mass storage? Mar 28 14:14:03 ah yes Mar 28 14:14:17 yes Mar 28 14:14:23 ok> Mar 28 14:15:44 ah there is a hub inside Mar 28 14:16:14 im sorry? Mar 28 14:16:25 there is a hub inside the bone Mar 28 14:16:26 av500 : could you go again? Mar 28 14:16:35 so wat shud i do>? Mar 28 14:16:44 one port is the bone cpu, the other port has the ftdi chip Mar 28 14:17:02 i get it Mar 28 14:17:06 so in hardware manager you should see this hub AND mass storage AND the FTDI Mar 28 14:18:19 ill check Mar 28 14:19:49 cant find it :'( Mar 28 14:22:04 av500 : beaglebone shows up 2 times in Other Devices Mar 28 14:22:57 does it mean something? Mar 28 14:24:09 ? Mar 28 14:27:55 viggi1: I see a "usb compound device" Mar 28 14:28:00 and a mass storage one Mar 28 14:28:11 and I see 2 TI XDS100 devices Mar 28 14:28:22 but that is because I seem to have CCS5 and XDS100 drivers installed Mar 28 14:29:08 and I have a com15 Mar 28 14:31:27 * LetoThe2nd hands av500 a spice-powered super supporter cookie Mar 28 14:34:19