**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 05 02:59:58 2012 Apr 05 06:05:17 I tried to order 2 beaglebones through mouser and they told me the item is under EAR. What does it mean? Apr 05 06:05:52 Does it mean the products cannot be shipped outside of the States? Apr 05 06:06:24 it can and it's shipped Apr 05 06:07:03 I am from Malaysia and after payment was made and waited for 3 weeks, mouser called and said the item can't be shipped due to EAR Apr 05 06:08:45 hm, maybe, that your country is blacklisted Apr 05 06:09:10 The following order had EAR restricted product on it which could not be shipped out of the country without an export license. A certain number of our products are controlled by the US Government http://www.bis.doc.gov/snap/index.htm and we have to restrict the shipment of these products to certain countries or obtain an export license from the government. Mouser doesn’t currently apply for export licenses. Apr 05 06:09:18 it says they have no export license Apr 05 06:09:48 ah, the keyword is "certain countries" Apr 05 06:10:00 so Malaysia has been blacklisted Apr 05 06:10:06 I thought that was ITAR Apr 05 06:10:40 tazmania: try to order from other seller, like tigal.eu Apr 05 06:10:56 tigal.eu? OK let me try Apr 05 06:11:13 the news, in two days: "The Malaysian nuclear program was shut down today, after failing to acquire BeagleBones." Apr 05 06:11:38 LOL Apr 05 06:11:45 you mean "breaking news" Apr 05 06:13:34 but this sucks, I wonder if the same export restrictions do apply to boards based on for example i.MX Apr 05 06:14:04 It's a shame Apr 05 06:14:09 depends on which iMX :) Apr 05 06:14:36 i.MX27's.... Apr 05 06:14:43 that starter board imx53 Apr 05 06:14:57 the LoCo one? Apr 05 06:15:03 yep Apr 05 06:15:16 should be the same Apr 05 06:15:20 it is an A8 Apr 05 06:15:42 but it isn't produced in US, is it? Apr 05 06:16:02 *shrug* Apr 05 06:16:21 there's that chinese a8 Apr 05 06:16:28 if you plan to do anything with the hardware, the connectors on that thing blows Apr 05 06:16:30 I doubt they'll care about some restrictions :D Apr 05 06:16:57 you could find a european clone... Apr 05 06:16:58 main in China? Apr 05 06:20:28 o.O Apr 05 06:21:40 tigal.eu has a lot of other dev kits Apr 05 06:21:54 when using grep -v "offset" kernel_core.c, do NOT take the tab-completion to kernel.elf Apr 05 06:21:59 your tty will regret it :P Apr 05 06:21:59 I wondered why DigiKey charges so much for beaglebone Apr 05 06:22:13 I thought the price should be the same across all vendors Apr 05 06:22:34 nah Apr 05 07:41:21 Hello. Is it possible to put ice cream sandwich android on a rev B4 Beagleboard with 1GB memory card? Maybe there are instructions somewhere in the net? Sadly, I could only find instructions for BB Xm. Apr 05 07:42:24 there are almost no differences between xm and b4 Apr 05 07:43:11 exfcept the ramsize, which might be a problem Apr 05 07:44:36 <_av500_> dammit, preorders for DCPU-16 are even worse than for raspberry pi Apr 05 07:44:48 Well, I'll try sticking to that instruction then and solve problems as they occur. Apr 05 07:44:58 <_av500_> that's the spirit Apr 05 08:11:59 hi, I'm building c6run for BBxm, which platform should I use when making the config? (make _config) Apr 05 08:12:17 it has beagleboard , and dm3730 , and some other stuff Apr 05 08:12:30 which should be used for xM? Apr 05 08:53:10 _av500_: a new challenge for your soldering skills: http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/sgkb002a/sgkb002a.pdf Apr 05 08:58:01 hi Apr 05 08:58:26 where can i found kernel for beaglebone Apr 05 08:58:47 on internet Apr 05 08:59:17 www.beagleboard.org Apr 05 08:59:19 i am not able to find it on internet Apr 05 08:59:39 then you've old version of internet probably Apr 05 09:00:11 what is the version you are using Apr 05 09:00:25 zero, I don't have bone Apr 05 09:00:33 its all there... http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ Apr 05 09:00:45 it's first link on beagleboard.org Apr 05 09:00:47 i was searching in net for kernel 2.6.38 for beaglebone Apr 05 09:01:51 av500: hi, yesterday I downloaded the book, I didn't notice that it was not in english!!! :D do you have any english one? I googled some and found nothing free :-" Apr 05 09:01:54 * LetoThe2nd suggests that the question gets thought over once, adjusted to the real point, properly rephrased and then asked afain. Apr 05 09:03:13 kernel source 2.6 for beaglebone Apr 05 09:03:23 where can i find that Apr 05 09:04:18 look at the date when the beaglebone was born Apr 05 09:05:11 that certainly does not count as "think over and adjust" Apr 05 09:05:21 it is not possible to put kernel 2.6 in beaglebone Apr 05 09:05:49 it is, if you spend the necessary time needed Apr 05 09:07:29 ok where can i find the kernel source for beaglebone Apr 05 09:07:56 whether the kernel for beagleboard also works for beaglebone Apr 05 09:18:10 "Real trolls don't need to ask if they're doing it right." Apr 05 09:48:51 hi, has anyone experience with the H3A module? I need to implement autofocus with the mt9p031 sensor from aptina Apr 05 10:34:38 hello everybody Apr 05 10:35:52 I have a question about gpio module init Apr 05 10:37:01 I'm using a mechanical rotary encoder, connected to 2 gpios of the beaglebone. I can load the rotary-encoder kernel driver (I have configured everything in board-am335xevm.c) Apr 05 10:38:13 However, the detection of relative transitions (with evtest tool) is sluggish, and I wish to enable debouncing (via GPIO_DEBOUNCENABLE register). What's the proper way to do it? Apr 05 11:51:35 hi friends Apr 05 11:53:52 when i connect bluetooth dongle to beaglebone i got following error Bluetooth: hci1 command tx timeout Apr 05 11:54:39 then don't connect the bluetooth dongle Apr 05 12:04:05 sundar: hi sundar Apr 05 12:04:19 manickam, hi Apr 05 12:04:35 what a ans Apr 05 12:05:10 you haven't said much like what you are upto Apr 05 12:07:03 sundar, I try with beaglebone i connect multiple bluetooth dongle it's show a error. hci0 timeout Apr 05 12:07:52 do you have the drivers for the bluetooth dongle you are plugging? Apr 05 12:08:13 yes Apr 05 12:10:11 have you checked the same dongle with a PC? Apr 05 12:15:15 yes sundar it is working Apr 05 12:15:45 what kernel are you running on your bone? Apr 05 12:16:15 and which distro are you using? Apr 05 12:16:30 we tryed 3.1 and 3.2 Apr 05 12:17:46 debian 6 Apr 05 12:18:30 try angstrom and update with opkg Apr 05 12:20:05 but the errot based on kernel same debian 6 is working in devkit 8000 Apr 05 12:21:47 what happens when you try to bring this bluetooth interface up? Apr 05 12:25:02 sundar may i know you are from Apr 05 12:25:06 pastebin your dmesg Apr 05 12:27:18 86.182494] generic-usb 0003:0A5C:4503.0002: input: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [HID 0a5c:4503] on usb-musb-hdrc.1-1.3.2/input0 [ 86.273920] usb 1-1.3.3: new full-speed USB device number 8 using musb-hdrc [ 86.376760] usb 1-1.3.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0461, idProduct=4d75 [ 86.376820] usb 1-1.3.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [ 86.376859] usb 1-1.3.3: Product: Rocketfish Bluetooth Adapter [ Apr 05 12:27:31 pastebin! Apr 05 12:27:54 pasteboom! Apr 05 12:28:08 or was it pastehex and pasteoct? Apr 05 12:28:19 or pastedec Apr 05 12:35:22 http://pastebin.com/eXaCtTDk Apr 05 12:37:14 sundar, http://pastebin.com/eXaCtTDk Apr 05 12:37:55 where is this taken dmesg from? bone? Apr 05 12:38:07 yes Apr 05 12:39:32 and the driver is properly loading? if its a kernel module? Apr 05 12:41:42 manickam, lsusb, lsmod Apr 05 12:41:49 pastebin ofcourse Apr 05 12:46:36 sundar,http://pastebin.com/djSWq3i3 Apr 05 12:48:14 manickam, you have the drivers built into the kernel or as a module? Apr 05 12:48:35 i was connected two dongle but dmesg show only one Apr 05 12:48:49 does the dongle work on a desktop linux? Apr 05 12:49:28 i was connected two dongle through hub but dmesg show only one Apr 05 12:49:49 dm8tbr, he says they work fine on desktop Apr 05 12:49:57 mkay Apr 05 12:51:28 sundar,i was built driver into the kernel Apr 05 12:51:28 manickam, for the broadcom device, do you have the drivers compiled and installed? Apr 05 12:52:59 sundar, i was select all the bluetooth driver in the kernel Apr 05 12:53:57 manickam, selecting all won't help you Apr 05 12:54:11 sundar i want your mail id Apr 05 12:55:29 manickam, your device seems to have a BCM2045A chipset. find and compile drivers for it Apr 05 12:56:57 manickam, some similar issue in this post: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.bluez.user/11850 Apr 05 13:22:16 is there somebody that have build correct gstreamer for xM? Apr 05 13:22:40 yes, the angstrom build robot Apr 05 13:23:14 av500: hehe and who have build this robot? Apr 05 13:23:26 skynet Apr 05 13:23:51 nice...funny...depriment Apr 05 13:24:17 i'm become crazy...is 3 days that i try to build this packet without success Apr 05 13:24:48 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=gstreamer Apr 05 13:24:49 why don't you install a prebuilt package? Apr 05 13:24:58 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=gstreamer-ti Apr 05 13:29:48 because i need able to build it Apr 05 13:30:15 av500: what is the difference from gstreamer and gstreamer-ti? Apr 05 13:30:29 stuk_gen: so, which distro are you using? angstrom? Apr 05 13:30:35 dm8tbr: yes Apr 05 13:31:19 and you tried to set up the angstrom build environment and then just build the gstreamer or gstreamer-ti recipe? Apr 05 13:31:49 dm8tbr: yes i have angstrom toolchain and i've try to build hte packet Apr 05 13:31:56 gstreamer Apr 05 13:33:20 and it fails how? Apr 05 13:34:33 dm8tbr: now i'm try build the gst-plugins-base Apr 05 13:34:59 dm8tbr: it fails bacause it says can't find some .so Apr 05 13:35:28 are you being deliberately vague? Apr 05 13:35:29 dm8tbr: but i'm add in a folder called libBB all .so and .pi thati i build Apr 05 13:35:45 dm8tbr: and i use PKG_CONFIG_PATH to that folder Apr 05 13:35:57 dm8tbr: so the makefiles same correctly... Apr 05 13:36:03 you are not using bitbake? Apr 05 13:36:50 dm8tbr: the problem is that i have beagleboard from one week and i know nothing about that...so i'm reading more document in internet but i'm much confusion in head Apr 05 13:37:03 dm8tbr: what is bitbake? Apr 05 13:39:17 stuk_gen: what is google? Apr 05 13:39:35 what is lycos?! Apr 05 13:40:08 a dog Apr 05 13:40:37 whereas google is a provider of free gadgets Apr 05 13:41:18 av500: but when you told with a man...eyes to eys...and this man says 'ey av500 have you look the last harak de musar'...you go to your pc and search...or ask to him? Apr 05 13:41:52 is that a trick question? Apr 05 13:42:44 no but i don't understand why people think that in every moment google is solution... Apr 05 13:42:46 av500: probably your head will explode if you google that. Apr 05 13:43:09 stuk_gen: not every moment Apr 05 13:43:26 if your girlfriend asks you if you want to marry her, better not use google Apr 05 13:43:48 but if you come across a word that you dont know and you have internet, google it Apr 05 13:44:02 or ask your girlfriend, not us Apr 05 13:44:04 av500: but google knows enough about me to know if I should say yes... Apr 05 13:44:25 dm8tbr: does it know who my future wife will be too? Apr 05 13:44:34 a troll? Apr 05 13:45:05 :D Apr 05 13:45:29 stuk_gen: so if you come here and ask "how do I do foo" and you get answered "use bar", then do not ask immediately "what is bar" Apr 05 13:45:33 instead google it Apr 05 13:45:57 as a courtesy to the people that are ready to help you Apr 05 13:45:58 av500: so can you tell me exactly with is "a bar"? Apr 05 13:46:15 please give me the exact steps! Apr 05 13:46:27 give the exact steps to the bar Apr 05 13:46:30 av500: you got a new telephone? Apr 05 13:46:37 jannau: no, a GTV :) Apr 05 13:46:52 I guess it was either devs or landfill Apr 05 13:46:56 * dm8tbr knows the exact steps to his bar. it's in the living room and well filled Apr 05 13:47:05 and prolly sending them to devs was cheaper Apr 05 13:47:16 av500: ok but a minimum to understand what bar is... Apr 05 13:47:17 the GTV that is not useable in europe? Apr 05 13:47:29 stuk_gen: did you google bitbake? Apr 05 13:47:36 jannau: it draws power Apr 05 13:47:47 stuk_gen: do you expect me to type all that? Apr 05 13:48:10 winter is over, no more GTV and new iPad display for heating required Apr 05 13:48:27 av500: i just look bitbake... Apr 05 13:48:40 av500: a tool for build package... Apr 05 13:49:25 av500: but i think this is a second pass... when i understand in spec what is need and how is need to build package...i can create a script that do this...or maybe look this bitbake Apr 05 13:49:34 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Apr 05 13:49:51 but yes, reinventing the wheel is also an option ofc Apr 05 13:50:00 not reinventing Apr 05 13:50:09 dm8tbr: does your bar also have hot chicks? Apr 05 13:50:36 but understand how workd at low level... Apr 05 13:50:47 mru: no the hot chick is next to me, she wouldn't fit in the bar closet Apr 05 13:50:49 mru: chicken wings Apr 05 13:55:25 av500: btw tinyHAL looks like a sale pitch to google or vendors, it's fortunately enough for my purpose Apr 05 13:56:08 sale pitch? Apr 05 13:56:13 if I get the codec to work or maybe just configure it correctly Apr 05 13:57:19 dm8tbr: then either your hot chich is too big or your bar closet too small. Apr 05 13:57:32 hire WM to finish it, it doesn't fully support capture and modems Apr 05 13:58:01 i.e. totally useless on a handset Apr 05 13:58:25 LetoThe2nd: option c) this is not the problem you're looking for :) Apr 05 13:58:36 * dm8tbr waves hand mysteriously Apr 05 13:59:14 i don't think that sandworms can be fooled by those stupid jedi tricks. Apr 05 14:13:19 maybe it was clever trick, at least no sandworm appeared. Apr 05 15:51:46 morning people! Apr 05 16:12:55 * nkh Does any body has English version of DSP For Dummies Book by TI? Apr 05 16:15:45 nkh: it's free for download iirc Apr 05 16:16:22 nkh: its also not very usefull Apr 05 16:17:30 prpplague: where from?! I just found it for sale, I want to read it for being clear what exactly DSP is and does ... Apr 05 16:17:46 nkh: read any book on DSP Apr 05 16:17:47 av500: and remember, I think you told me to read it, Man!:D Apr 05 16:17:55 nkh: yes Apr 05 16:18:04 av500: you also gave me the russion , I think Apr 05 16:18:14 so you believe random strangers on the internet? Apr 05 16:18:29 nkh: just google "dsp for dummies" Apr 05 16:19:17 prpplague: I did but there is nothing for free! does google makes any different for us !?:D ;) Apr 05 16:20:12 nkh: http://www.ti.com/dsp/docs/dspsplash.tsp?contentId=52451 Apr 05 16:20:18 this one is free Apr 05 16:20:42 nkh: weird, the first 10 hits i get on google are all free Apr 05 16:21:27 prpplague: there are 2 books Apr 05 16:21:31 one from 2003 and useless Apr 05 16:21:37 one from 2009 and slightly useful Apr 05 16:21:45 the one from 2003 explains RF3 Apr 05 16:22:44 oh, it even has RF5 Apr 05 16:22:59 av500: what is RF? Apr 05 16:23:03 exactly Apr 05 16:23:12 only OLD people like me know that :) Apr 05 16:23:24 :D Apr 05 16:23:24 nkh: so, I mixed up the books Apr 05 16:23:44 use http://www.ti.com/dsp/docs/dspsplash.tsp?contentId=52451 Apr 05 16:24:13 av500: ok Thanks a Lot! :) Apr 05 16:24:20 [18:20:42] nkh: weird, the first 10 hits i get on google are all free Apr 05 16:24:28 prpplague: e.g.? Apr 05 16:25:26 prpplague: and the title is "expressdsp for..." Apr 05 16:26:55 prpplague: I wonder How you see these free :-? would you please give me one? :-/ Apr 05 16:27:10 * prpplague looks again Apr 05 16:27:14 nkh: learn russian Apr 05 16:28:25 av500: ahh false positives, looks like have the same title but not the actual book Apr 05 16:28:31 yes Apr 05 16:28:40 as I said, the title is "expressdsp for dummies" Apr 05 16:28:49 av500: Learn Russion!!! Good Ideaa !!!!! :)) :D Apr 05 16:28:51 and only the russian translation is "free" Apr 05 16:28:52 :) Apr 05 16:30:51 av500: the link yo gave , ti omap and davinci ... this is not free, also :| , am I reading the pages wrong!? :D Apr 05 16:31:25 nkh: I got the book for free Apr 05 16:31:28 not as pdf Apr 05 16:31:31 as paper Apr 05 16:31:40 there is just table of contet and introduction, and some pages linked to ti wiki Apr 05 16:31:50 av500: Aw ! how!? :D Apr 05 16:32:50 I clicked on order and apparently just ordered another one :) Apr 05 16:33:04 ...Thank you for ordering the OMAP & DaVinci Software for Dummies Book! Your order should ship within 6-8 weeks.... Apr 05 16:33:22 av500: :| Apr 05 16:33:33 :-< Apr 05 16:33:34 doh Apr 05 16:33:57 nkh: do you see "Order your book now!" Apr 05 16:34:03 on the page I linked? Apr 05 16:34:51 av500: I can't open ti site from my country!! free shipment is a dream!! we got the board with thousand probems and over payments ... and you are talking about free shipment! Apr 05 16:35:07 yes, nice eh? :) Apr 05 16:35:16 you live in heaven, Man :| Apr 05 16:35:46 * nkh is counting days to migrate from this f*** land :| Apr 05 16:35:55 sorry, I cant do much about that Apr 05 16:36:05 av500: yea I saw ... Apr 05 16:36:25 nkh: I'm asking people for a pdf Apr 05 16:36:37 _chase_: _roger_: ^^^^^^ Apr 05 16:36:50 av500: Ow really!? Thanks a Lot! Apr 05 16:36:51 jkridner_: ^^^^^^^^ Apr 05 16:46:03 nkh: http://e2e.ti.com/support/dsp/davinci_digital_media_processors/f/99/t/5928.aspx Apr 05 16:46:10 seems like no free pdf anytime soon Apr 05 16:46:23 you will have to read source code :) Apr 05 16:47:17 av500: thanks anyway! for your kindness :) Apr 05 16:47:38 av500: no problem, I'll finaly find something to read ... Apr 05 16:58:37 nkh: live in a country we can't ship to? Apr 05 16:58:44 * mranostay thinks Iran or Cuba Apr 05 16:59:02 mranostay: :| Apr 05 16:59:51 mranostay: I always think why we should have these problems when governments have problem with each other! Apr 05 17:00:41 mranostay: when we ourselves have problems with the government, too! Apr 05 17:01:23 mranostay: the former Apr 05 17:01:43 mranostay: yes, Iran. this is destiny! :| Apr 05 17:02:21 Hey Apr 05 17:02:26 i was going to suggest North Korea as well. but i don't think anyone has computers there :) Apr 05 17:03:11 they have Apr 05 17:04:02 mranostay: Iran is Not So Bad, Man!!! just politics are aweFull! :-& Apr 05 17:04:39 nkh: same as the US Apr 05 17:05:16 or EU, whatever... Apr 05 17:05:46 but at least they ship dogs overhere Apr 05 17:07:07 av500: :-?? I don't know how exactly life is going on in US, I just know that every where has it's own good and bad situations Apr 05 17:27:26 mranostay: see, I told you: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120404/12263218371/ip-above-all-else-wipo-defies-un-sanctions-to-give-computers-to-north-korea.shtml Apr 05 17:30:51 " the computers are supposed to help North Korea search foreign patent databases in order to abide by international patent law. Seriously. " Apr 05 17:31:15 Administration lawyers met their deadline and filed a three-page, single-spaced letter -- following the specific instructions of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which is hearing a challenge to the health care law. Apr 05 17:31:22 The letter affirmed the government's stance that federal courts indeed have the authority to decide the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act -- and any other law Congress passes. Apr 05 17:32:50 CanyonMan: ok? :) Apr 05 17:32:58 oh man Apr 05 17:33:01 i apologize everyone Apr 05 17:33:10 that was a serious mispaste. Apr 05 17:52:12 slightly off topic Apr 05 18:11:41 hi - anyone experience with high speed gpio ? Apr 05 18:14:21 high speed GPIO?! Apr 05 18:14:29 what are you calling high speed? Apr 05 18:14:50 2.5MHz + Apr 05 18:15:28 how many do you need? Apr 05 18:15:49 that is getting near the reported upper limits of the stock GPIO block Apr 05 18:16:09 That's what I've been reading. Apr 05 18:16:24 I only need output using 12 data lines Apr 05 18:16:24 how many do you need though? there might be other blocks Apr 05 18:17:06 It is time critical though, since at the other end is a UART Apr 05 18:17:18 how many? Apr 05 18:17:20 1? 500? Apr 05 18:17:52 don't understand your question - 1, 500 what ? Apr 05 18:18:04 how many GPIOs do you need at a fast clock rate? Apr 05 18:18:18 12 outputs Apr 05 18:18:52 I've been able to get upto 2.5MHz on a embeddedarm TS-7800 Apr 05 18:18:53 why do you think you need a gpio vs one of the smarter blocks on the chip? Apr 05 18:19:02 12 isn't too many Apr 05 18:19:10 which blocks do you suggest ? Apr 05 18:19:18 if you are talking to a UART, it sounds like you need high speed uarts Apr 05 18:19:26 prehaps, use the UART block on the chip? :) Apr 05 18:19:46 <_av500_> -ETOOOBVIOUS Apr 05 18:19:50 Ok - but i need 12 of them then... Apr 05 18:20:06 they are UARTs... mux'em Apr 05 18:20:24 depending on which chip, there are 3-4 of them... so a 4:1 mux Apr 05 18:20:35 drive them at 10MHz or so Apr 05 18:20:52 this makes me wonder... Apr 05 18:21:05 can the pinmux switch fast enough to let you use that as a mux? Apr 05 18:21:27 The other end is limited to 4.5MHz maximum though, thus can't use 10MHz signalling Apr 05 18:21:36 huh? Apr 05 18:21:52 clock it down in the mux then Apr 05 18:22:13 which chip? Apr 05 18:22:36 But I need the bandwidth as well, am communicating with an STM32F106 Apr 05 18:22:54 wtf are you using a UART to that? Apr 05 18:24:31 Am using RS485 signaling over 2 wires, can't use anything else Apr 05 18:24:35 do you also slice meat with the dull side of a knife? Apr 05 18:24:56 how long are the wires? Apr 05 18:25:17 3 meters Apr 05 18:25:26 10ft?! strong drivers Apr 05 18:25:39 use a mux Apr 05 18:25:51 cuz you'll need drivers anyways Apr 05 18:41:23 Hello. I'm new to the Beagleboard-xM and am trying to get the MT9P031 camera sensor to save a snapshot to the SD card. I've been following various online guides, including: http://blog.galemin.com/2012/03/buildroot-2012-02-for-beagleboard-xm-with-li-5m03-mt9p031-camera-support/ I'm using the pre-compiled images and all, and can't figure out to accomplish this. Most documentation out there seems to display the image to some preview Apr 05 18:41:53 I think it has to do either with the Pipelining, but I'm not sure if that is even the right direction to look in. Any advice? Apr 05 18:48:53 are you getting a image now? Apr 05 18:49:06 Marc_SSL: ^^^ Apr 05 18:52:49 No, I get the buffers though, but I don't see any output. Apr 05 18:53:57 Marc_SSL: are you into one of the camera discussions on the mail list? Apr 05 18:54:17 I haven't posted, but I've browsed them a bit. Apr 05 18:55:51 did you get your /dev/video0 Apr 05 18:56:23 No, my /dev/video0 doesn't work. Apr 05 18:56:35 doesnt work or isnt there? Apr 05 18:56:35 I've been using /dev/video6 Apr 05 18:57:12 It's physically there when I cd into dev/, but it doesn't run with yavta. Apr 05 18:57:47 tyr a real app like mplayer or gstreamer Apr 05 18:58:17 * djlewis knows nothing of this yavta Apr 05 18:58:48 Haha, alright. Where would I start to learn how to use mplayer, I see it mentioned all the time, but have no idea how to get it to run and say save an image/video. Apr 05 19:03:33 Marc_SSL: something like mplayer tv:// device=/dev/video0 or your /dev/video(X) device Apr 05 19:03:53 Marc_SSL: our friend google knows all about that stuff :) Apr 05 19:04:06 man mplayer Apr 05 19:04:16 da man does too :) Apr 05 19:04:43 aholler: girl smplayer Apr 05 19:04:54 argh . . . Apr 05 19:04:59 Haha I appreciate it, I've been googling like a fiend over here! I'm still pretty new to Linux and Embedded Linux, so it's all a learning experience to me still. Apr 05 19:05:19 Marc_SSL: most command-line tools have a man page Apr 05 19:05:33 very helpfull Apr 05 19:07:04 There we go, thank you. I can't man on the BB-xM, probably because of the kernel I have. Apr 05 19:07:32 the kernel has nothing todo with manpages Apr 05 19:08:04 if you are using a distribution without manpages, switch the distri Apr 05 19:08:21 aholler: man kernel -> "No manual entry for kernel" Apr 05 19:08:55 Fair enough. There just is not "man" command in my bash. Apr 05 19:09:33 Part of the problem, is I need to learn how to make images and bootloaders as well. Then I can get the Aptina drivers on the Image myself. Apr 05 19:09:41 Right now I'm using a pre-built kernel/image. Apr 05 19:40:30 hi Apr 05 19:41:12 i have ported the linux on beagleboard xm sucessfully.it is booting in 20 secs Apr 05 19:41:27 i want to reduce the boot delay Apr 05 19:41:38 can any body help me Apr 05 19:42:23 no pm, please Apr 05 19:43:04 read up on systemd-analyze, if you're using systemd. on bootchart, if you're running ubuntu. and most important: on the difference between PORTING and INSTALLING!!! Apr 05 19:43:38 i am using angstrom Apr 05 19:44:01 well then everything is said. NEXT TICKET Apr 05 19:45:04 i mean angstrom rfs i am using.i have compiled my own MLO,uboot.bin and uImage with minimul configs Apr 05 19:48:50 how can i reduce the boot delay in beagleboard Apr 05 19:49:18 how can i reduce the boot delay in beagleboard Apr 05 19:49:34 install brain. Apr 05 19:50:16 determine what causes delay and rectify Apr 05 19:50:35 * dm8tbr hands out free diodes Apr 05 19:50:36 that has a dependency on brain-1.0.deb ;) Apr 05 19:50:47 heh Apr 05 19:52:32 take a look at the new one I just sent... wrong folder Apr 05 19:52:35 blah Apr 05 19:53:27 emeb: trying to slow things down with silicon rectifiers eh? ;) Apr 05 19:57:17 how to reduce boot delay in beagleboardhow to reduce boot delay in beagleboardhow to reduce boot delay in beagleboardvhow to reduce boot delay in beagleboard Apr 05 19:57:22 ????????/ Apr 05 19:57:27 venki: STOP SPAMMING! Apr 05 19:57:40 where's our op? Apr 05 19:57:47 someone needs to get kicked Apr 05 19:57:50 venki: i tolkd you: read up on systemd-analyze. now please do your homework yourself! Apr 05 19:58:31 ok thanq!i will solve my poroblem Apr 05 20:02:56 <_av500_> LetoThe2nd: bierchen? Apr 05 20:11:38 ds2: or germanium... Apr 05 20:15:22 _av500_: nope, slyrs atm. Apr 05 20:44:48 darn children these days . . . Apr 05 21:03:32 Hi everybody - is RegExp supposed working in nodejs on Beaglebone angstrom? Apr 05 21:04:07 i cannot make working some of basic samples for RegExp... Apr 05 21:05:48 I keep getting: " pkg_get_installed_files: Failed to open //var/lib/opkg/info/perl-module-pluggable.pm.list: No such file or directory." after opkg upgrade Apr 05 21:23:08 Hi everybody Apr 05 21:23:14 Anybody live here ? Apr 05 21:23:21 I found http://groups.google.com/group/beaglebone/browse_thread/thread/80d188e27a3d9059 Apr 05 21:23:29 * djlewis lives on the mountain Apr 05 21:23:30 But I am getting permission denied error Apr 05 21:24:14 executing: ln -s /var/lib/opkg/info/perl-module-build.list /var/lib/opkg/info/perl-module-build.pm.list Apr 05 21:25:02 aaah stupid me... silly carriage return in command :) Apr 05 21:27:32 PING :) Apr 05 21:27:43 anybody using RegExp in nodejs ? Apr 05 21:28:08 <_av500_> out of all 7 billion people? Apr 05 21:28:31 * _av500_ would dare to say maybe Apr 05 21:29:15 would guess we only have one god of js in here. Apr 05 21:29:40 or rather, only one person who admits even touching it. Apr 05 21:33:28 there's probably a better channel for node.js people Apr 05 21:40:33 <_av500_> yes, the English Channel Apr 05 21:41:11 it's not that bad... the worst thing about javascript is the fact that java is in the name Apr 05 21:41:33 it is worse... it is userland ;) Apr 05 21:41:41 <_av500_> the English Channel is not that bad either Apr 05 21:41:51 heh... language wise it's rather elegant Apr 05 21:42:19 <_av500_> ds2: anything ouside of ROM code is impure Apr 05 21:42:43 anything higher than cpu microcode Apr 05 21:42:58 indeed Apr 05 21:43:28 <_av500_> ew, microcode Apr 05 21:46:07 anything out of hardwired logic impure. Apr 05 21:46:32 burn those links Apr 05 21:46:51 pal Apr 05 21:47:07 link those burns? Apr 05 21:47:16 <_av500_> ha, my dead drive is not dead, just not partitioned! Apr 05 21:49:11 horrifc Apr 05 21:50:31 <_av500_> i thought me broken psu had killed it Apr 05 21:50:47 <_av500_> but then it was just the nas too stupid to recognize it Apr 05 21:51:05 hehehe Apr 05 21:52:05 * LetoThe2nd better runs off to bed Apr 05 21:52:08 <_av500_> damn, mkfs.ext3 over usb takes ages Apr 05 21:52:24 * _av500_ needs a desk and chair in server room Apr 05 21:53:27 <_av500_> and servers, lots of servers Apr 05 21:54:36 your own cload made of beaglebones. Apr 05 21:55:05 a DIY beagleskeleton! Apr 05 22:02:20 with storage over musb? ;) Apr 05 22:02:38 ew ew Apr 05 22:03:02 Mmmmmmm Apr 05 22:05:43 <_av500_> nope Apr 05 22:11:59 a server does not a beaglebone make Apr 05 22:12:28 or is that.. a beaglebone does not a server make ... Apr 05 22:17:44 i wonder what a server room that is, if someone wants a desk and chair there ;) Apr 05 22:18:18 <_av500_> :) Apr 05 22:18:55 <_av500_> its my cellar room with the heating and the electrical panel and the air exchanger Apr 05 22:19:09 <_av500_> and the network stuffs Apr 05 22:19:47 so place a bone there as remote access foo Apr 05 22:20:42 <_av500_> there is a beagle on the wall since today Apr 05 22:20:59 <_av500_> with usb2serial to the uart of my NAS box Apr 05 22:21:42 so only something for the power and reset is needed Apr 05 22:22:26 <_av500_> maybe Apr 05 22:22:46 <_av500_> yesterdays systemd and connman escapades made me not want to touch the beagle for a month or so Apr 05 22:23:07 so he hangs it on the wall in the basement :) Apr 05 22:23:10 na na na na na na na na Apr 05 22:23:11 na na na na na na na na Apr 05 22:23:13 _av500_: need a hug? Apr 05 22:23:13 connman Apr 05 22:23:21 <_av500_> mranostay: nah Apr 05 22:23:21 just use busybox ;) Apr 05 22:23:34 * mranostay gives _av500_ one anyway Apr 05 22:23:35 <_av500_> yes Apr 05 22:25:03 <_av500_> I will be happy when my r-pi arrives and I can leave beagle behind me :) Apr 05 22:27:15 _av500_: trolling? Apr 05 22:27:43 he's going to run node.js on it Apr 05 22:27:49 mranostay: he'd never... Apr 05 22:29:34 blasphemy Apr 05 22:31:57 i'm currently playing with an avr + ENC28J60 ;) Apr 05 22:32:50 i'm currently slaving over virused windoze pc's Apr 05 22:33:10 and setting up two new ones Apr 05 22:34:27 <_av500_> mranostay: at least the r-pi will run a real OS and will help poor children to escape the ghettos Apr 05 22:36:05 oh, didn't know the rpi does teaching Apr 05 22:36:59 aren't r-pi's being shipped into those impoverished countries without utilities so the kids can use them? Apr 05 22:37:07 <_av500_> no Apr 05 22:37:11 <_av500_> that was OLPC Apr 05 22:37:23 <_av500_> r-pis are being shipped into the 1st world Apr 05 22:37:34 well, not actually shipped Apr 05 22:37:39 <_av500_> you know, where there are not computers Apr 05 22:37:43 <_av500_> no* Apr 05 22:37:52 and no electricity Apr 05 22:37:58 <_av500_> just laptops and destops and iphones Apr 05 22:38:04 <_av500_> but not computer computers Apr 05 22:38:09 <_av500_> djlewis: yes, the US too Apr 05 22:38:28 * djlewis considers some solar panels Apr 05 22:39:01 * aholler just ordered one a small one Apr 05 22:39:52 <_av500_> for indor use? Apr 05 22:39:58 <_av500_> indoor* Apr 05 22:40:29 indor is a very small village where a cousin of mine lives Apr 05 22:40:46 <_av500_> no, its a moon with little furry creatures Apr 05 22:41:21 mru has a little furry cousin that lives on a moon? Apr 05 22:41:26 <_av500_> yes Apr 05 22:41:36 <_av500_> called trollwok Apr 05 22:43:12 the plan is to place it before a big lcd-tv wich shows a white photo so I have free power for my beagle Apr 05 22:43:17 wookies don't live on endor! Apr 05 22:43:33 <_av500_> aholler: use a plasma, has more oomph Apr 05 22:43:47 _av500_: and I have an uncle in Västerås Apr 05 22:45:17 aholler: is that inspired by the zero emission electric vehicle carry a 2 cycle engine generator in the truck to charge the batteries? :) Apr 05 22:46:03 <_av500_> ds2: isnt that called "a prius"? Apr 05 23:03:02 _av500_: the connman maintainer agrees on the need for cli tools that don't require python Apr 05 23:03:23 <_av500_> hear hear Apr 05 23:03:36 but it will require node.js instead? Apr 05 23:03:45 <_av500_> hint him at textfile and signal Apr 05 23:03:47 no, ruby on rails Apr 05 23:04:21 <_av500_> koen: well, python was just a decoy as I found out, it's dbus that ruins it Apr 05 23:16:35 _av500_: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/490457/977040ee2f74c338/ Apr 05 23:23:45 the answer is easy, arm should employ more devs Apr 05 23:24:29 koen: how is the talks today? Apr 05 23:29:15 mranostay: I attended the llvm one Apr 05 23:29:29 mranostay: the rest of the day was spent in the hallway track Apr 05 23:29:36 heh Apr 05 23:29:47 too bad i had to work today Apr 05 23:29:52 llvm would have been cool to see Apr 05 23:31:16 koen: how soon does the videos get put up usually? Apr 05 23:38:56 no idea, first collab for me Apr 05 23:39:15 koen: thought you were there last year? Apr 05 23:40:02 isn't this the same thing as the week before ELC last year? Apr 05 23:44:09 it is, but I didn't attend collab Apr 06 01:00:17 sakoman, ever go here: http://voices.yahoo.com/remember-mountain-views-st-james-infirmary-7346934.html?cat=8 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 06 03:00:00 2012