**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 09 02:59:58 2012 Apr 09 03:25:52 git clone http://git.shr-project.org/repo/meta-smartphone.git/ You don't have permission... Apr 09 03:25:55 is that just me? Apr 09 05:11:35 good morning all Apr 09 05:17:56 <_sundar_> gm Apr 09 05:43:49 <_av500_> gm Apr 09 10:12:32 <_sundar_> good afternoon Apr 09 10:15:01 _sundar_: Hi Apr 09 10:15:30 If a boot.scr is in the root of the first partition on my microSD card do I have to hold the USER button while booting for it to load it? Apr 09 10:15:55 <_sundar_> i do not think so. the bootloader will load it automatically Apr 09 10:16:42 <_sundar_> i guess if it is named as user.scr or something, then you'd have to hold the user button to load it Apr 09 10:17:24 _sundar_: Ok thanks Apr 09 10:20:59 boot.scr is only for old versions of u-boot and is replaced by uEnv.txt Apr 09 10:25:00 <_sundar_> aholler, uEnv.txt is editable by hand? or still we need the mkimage utility? Apr 09 10:25:19 uEnv.txt is plaintext Apr 09 10:25:25 Can be edited by hand yes Apr 09 10:26:01 The image I am using from AlwaysInnovating uses an old uBoot. I was attempting to get it to work with the old uBoot first rather than overhauling things which may break stuff Apr 09 10:27:30 <_sundar_> instead of bootcmd, uenvcmd will be run it seems Apr 09 10:27:57 <_sundar_> if that doesn't exist, default bootcmd will be run Apr 09 11:14:44 9° :( Apr 09 11:17:03 <_sundar_> - or + :) Apr 09 11:17:27 at least + (C) Apr 09 11:17:45 <_sundar_> thats still cold Apr 09 12:03:36 mdp, mranostay: new branch: https://github.com/koenkooi/linux/commits/linux-ti33x-psp-3.2-r9a+gitr09e9651bcf2ee8d86685f2a8075bc6557b1d3b91 Apr 09 12:04:07 still 3.2 ;) Apr 09 12:06:35 yes, that's bleeding edge for TI Apr 09 12:07:34 for 3.3 I could cite rmk ;) Apr 09 12:11:33 koen: can i put that pic up on my presentation page? Apr 09 12:11:40 * koen has the 3.5" lcd working after using a backchannel to learn that display pll != pixclock Apr 09 12:11:44 it's 2x pixclock.... Apr 09 12:11:49 prpplague: you sure can! Apr 09 12:13:00 koen: dandy Apr 09 12:16:20 koen: http://elinux.org/BoardBringupLCD Apr 09 12:18:20 * prpplague fixes a cup of coffee and tries to wakeup Apr 09 12:20:08 hmm, das_oszi sounds good Apr 09 12:21:57 aholler: made a ton of progress over the weekend Apr 09 12:22:51 I should have seen this on saturday ;) Apr 09 12:24:03 aholler: oh? did you buy a new scope? hehe Apr 09 12:24:22 no, i still don't have one Apr 09 12:25:11 only stuff around 30a old ;) Apr 09 12:26:46 maybe I go out tomorrow an buy me one of those at the conrad around the corner here Apr 09 12:30:13 aholler: just fyi, it is still a long ways off from having a full replacement from source Apr 09 12:30:37 looks like they have 2 available in the store. Apr 09 12:31:17 prpplague: source isn't necessary, but a 200mhz-scope for 299€ sounds good Apr 09 12:31:22 I'm using the boot.scr from this location (http://labs.igep.es/index.php/How_to_get_the_Android_distribution) called boot-dvi.scr. I am moving the file to the boot partition and then renaming it to boot.scr and then doing "sync" but it's not working. Any ideas? I do not have a serial cable to hand. Apr 09 12:31:48 aholler: :) Apr 09 12:33:20 so I could talk with the bleeding edge analog-hw-devs afterwards ;) Apr 09 12:33:32 hehe Apr 09 12:45:40 <_av500_> kvarley: get a serial cable Apr 09 12:46:11 <_av500_> or use the led and learn morse code Apr 09 13:01:41 I'd go for morse, way easier Apr 09 13:06:51 ascii in binary is much more robust Apr 09 13:08:11 koen, hrm, I see. didn't get to finish the conversation on g+..I'll continue there :) Apr 09 13:09:01 yes, yes. I should make a communications device, consisting of a led, a long tube, and a lightsensor. It will only support ascii in binary. I shall call it.. fibre! Apr 09 13:09:16 its french for fubblez Apr 09 13:09:33 which have no relation to this subject whatsoever Apr 09 13:11:05 koen, I *think* hvaibhav was planning to do something newer with a branch in his repo, but I have trouble understanding mostly Apr 09 13:11:35 ppl actually use g+ btw? where can I find those pplz? Apr 09 13:17:07 koen: thanks for the pic and post, made my week, hehe Apr 09 13:18:18 hi prpplague^2, your reminder is noted…working back through it to doc on elinux Apr 09 13:19:00 koen: man the OMAP8 case looks awesome - https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2EmbIazg_g4/TwE11K6jAcI/AAAAAAAAL5Y/AgAZm1kr7OE/s667/cases15.jpg Apr 09 13:19:03 Haikarainen: go find Boris Houndleroy..even canines are on g+ Apr 09 13:19:05 mdp: :) Apr 09 13:19:57 * prpplague^2 pretends to be Mad Max and starts his commute to the office, bbiab Apr 09 13:32:40 mdp: I was suprised to see that even mmc is broken in the hvaibhav kernel :( Apr 09 13:33:05 mdp: so I deciced to watch the hunger games in the cinema instead Apr 09 13:34:19 * koen is reading up on fritzing Apr 09 13:41:55 koen, did you like it? Apr 09 13:42:37 I was pretty pleased with the screen adaptation Apr 09 13:43:34 koen, your reports of the state of that kernel made me move my projects to yours, of course Apr 09 13:47:17 the movie was nice Apr 09 13:58:37 koen, but…but…it's a movie "about children killing children!!!" :) Apr 09 13:58:39 hehe Apr 09 14:01:29 very well done though Apr 09 14:06:54 yeah, my kids are well on their way to being book->movie nitpickers…"they changed this! they changed that!" Apr 09 14:07:14 I said, "set your expectations low..and have them exceeded" Apr 09 14:07:26 this is my philosophy on approaching the work day too..it's effective Apr 09 14:07:45 I did that as well Apr 09 14:07:54 and then I discovered that even mmc was missing Apr 09 14:08:06 lol Apr 09 14:22:47 mdp: Hunger Games is probably an example, right? :) Apr 09 14:24:55 * mranostay yawns loudly Apr 09 14:25:24 well, nobody goes to any movie and comes out claiming that it was 100% spot on to the books Apr 09 14:25:32 or they are lying or fell asleep reading Apr 09 14:26:22 heh hard to fit a book into a 2 hour movie. and and of course there a ton of parts that would be boring as hell in movie form Apr 09 14:26:26 hehe Apr 09 14:26:36 mdp: i went with the kids over the weekend to see hunger games Apr 09 14:26:54 mdp: when i got up to go to the latrine i noticed half a dozen people sleeping Apr 09 14:27:28 lol Apr 09 14:27:29 only 7 more days till hbo airs GoT season 2 over here Apr 09 14:27:38 prpplague: it does have the chick flick moments Apr 09 14:27:42 * koen has to resist the urge to talk to his swedish backup service Apr 09 14:28:00 hehe Apr 09 14:28:12 prpplague: I got a kick out of how many teenage girls around hadn't read the books…based on their reactions to certain scenes Apr 09 14:28:19 koen: apparently my son has learn some more curse phrases in dutch..... Apr 09 14:28:31 there's the book crowd…then the "me-too" crowd Apr 09 14:28:37 mdp: yea Apr 09 14:31:24 mdp: heh you should have been "yeah ah don't get too attached to that guy" :) Apr 09 14:31:27 prpplague: the 13 year old boys we took to opening night seemed "quite pleased" with the choice of actress for Katniss Apr 09 14:32:44 mdp: hehe Apr 09 14:33:42 mdp: "That's a nice guy" "No, he gets other people killed" Apr 09 14:33:53 hehe Apr 09 14:34:25 mdp: has there been blood in the streets yet? :) Apr 09 14:34:43 koen, I came to discover GoT had value a bit late…just starting season 1 myself Apr 09 14:35:08 koen, had me hooked at the end of S01E01 :) Apr 09 14:35:44 mranostay, soon…I can assure you that if the school shooting here happened after the movie came out…HG would be blamed Apr 09 14:38:22 Hunger Games was silly Apr 09 14:38:35 I saw "The Raid: Redemption" this weekend Apr 09 14:38:39 mdp: the oakland shooting was a bit creepy, it happened s a few hours after I passed through it Apr 09 14:39:26 Crofton: my girlfriend confiscated the mentor graphics screwdriver/torch Apr 09 14:39:54 *sigh* Apr 09 14:39:58 doh Apr 09 14:40:03 bootup error that only happens with 'quiet' in bootargs Apr 09 14:40:24 that is why I have several Apr 09 14:41:03 in America, we start to worry is there hasn't been some form of shooting recently Apr 09 14:41:03 koen: torch? Apr 09 14:41:10 flashlight Apr 09 14:41:34 koen spent too much time in the UK over the past few years Apr 09 14:42:55 wmat: wonder if TimB's is on the chopping block with this mornings announcements from Sony Apr 09 14:45:10 prpplague: I didn't see the announcement yet. I assume Sony is cutting staff? Apr 09 14:45:23 wmat: 10k from their TV divisions Apr 09 14:45:56 wow Apr 09 14:46:38 http://venturebeat.com/2012/04/09/sony-10k-layoffs/ Apr 09 14:46:40 prpplague: I suspect Tim B. would step right into something new if that were the case. He's a smart dude. Apr 09 14:46:47 wmat: yea Apr 09 14:47:12 selfmade probles at sony. because of the drm-foo their tv's are crippled Apr 09 14:49:51 e.g. some of them don't play videos fro the net but from a connected camera and similiar stupid things Apr 09 15:00:01 * prpplague grumbles at the oddities happening with his ubuntu desktop after doing updates Apr 09 15:01:58 Hi, I have a bone and would like to know why not its python doesn't have the distutils packages Apr 09 15:05:38 I found the package in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=python-distutils Apr 09 15:05:41 thank you Apr 09 15:14:10 * mranostay pokes Tartarus the uboot monkey Apr 09 15:18:17 mranostay: we usually use another word instead of monkey Apr 09 15:29:06 prpplague: which is? Apr 09 15:31:04 * mdp notes that HR is watching :) Apr 09 15:31:08 ah right :) Apr 09 15:31:17 b*tch? :) Apr 09 15:31:23 * mdp gasps Apr 09 15:31:27 * mranostay notes he doesn't work for TI so he can be crude :) Apr 09 15:40:37 just created a new rootfs from narcissus and it doesn't autostart X, when I tried manually starting it gave me errors about xorg.conf having glx etc Apr 09 15:40:40 :( Apr 09 15:42:43 and it was still an older version of X server than what I need anyway Apr 09 15:55:48 X11 is so 1993, everyone knows postits is the way to go! Apr 09 16:01:34 I like how I got my external HDD back I lended out to my brother, and the 1TB space thats on there is formatted with FAT o__o Apr 09 16:04:16 :/ Apr 09 16:05:56 can fat32 even address 1TB? Apr 09 16:12:48 maybe exfat Apr 09 16:13:25 If I reformat a partition and then copy MLO to it - will that still work? Apr 09 16:13:38 Or does it have to be on the creation of a partition from empty blocks? Apr 09 16:13:50 yes, no Apr 09 16:14:00 aholler: Thank you muchly Apr 09 16:22:43 aholler, http://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg168340.html Apr 09 16:24:37 Russ: ah, thanks. I saw that patch in a series of 3.4-fixes too, but haven't tried it. Apr 09 16:24:44 will do that now Apr 09 16:34:12 aholler, I verified it works on next and master Apr 09 16:36:10 so it was the muxing ;) Apr 09 17:21:12 gm, if I am registered on NickServ, why is calvino.freenode.net asking me to register? Apr 09 17:23:45 djlewis: do you use your nickserv password on connect as the server password? if not it's likely to remind you about all sorts of things Apr 09 17:26:20 dm8tbr: yes, i just didnt know if it was required as well. Apr 09 17:32:06 hmpf, that patch is broken Apr 09 17:32:55 someone should tell him that 80-char-line-breaks in patches aren't that good Apr 09 17:37:47 aholler, I did Apr 09 17:37:54 aholler, its easy to fixup thogh Apr 09 17:37:56 er, though Apr 09 17:38:29 http://pastebin.com/0qFxwtq2 Apr 09 17:39:51 already done, compiling Apr 09 17:41:16 anyway, thanks Apr 09 17:51:53 Russ: and I wonder how this works when default_omap_uart_pads is on the stack Apr 09 17:52:18 might explain some other behaviours at startup Apr 09 17:53:39 not a good sign when the same Vista license key I pull off a clients laptop happens to be all over the web :) Apr 09 17:54:01 software pull from hd Apr 09 17:58:29 aholler, I noted that too Apr 09 17:58:42 aholler, before the patch, it was static data Apr 09 17:58:43 therefor I've seen it ;) Apr 09 17:59:36 I've just added a static in front. Apr 09 17:59:36 hmmm...perhaps some smsc95xx under next even with the patch Apr 09 18:15:29 wmat: pages are looking good Apr 09 18:16:55 prpplague: getting there Apr 09 18:17:26 wmat: the main question that keeps getting asked is how to make a new machine .cfg Apr 09 18:17:56 prpplague: I find that surprising, given that one can simply start by copying a current cfg file. Apr 09 18:18:06 prpplague: but I'll write it up anyway Apr 09 18:18:27 wmat: yea, i think i've already forward about 7 or 8 people asking the same question Apr 09 18:19:59 wmat: with all the patents stuff going on lately, and the movie hunger games being out, maybe we should have each of the big companies send reps to have "embedded games", winner gets to keep all the patents Apr 09 18:21:05 heh Apr 09 18:42:38 anyone using the DSP know what the correct value for mem= kernel command line parameter is? I'm finding some references saying 99M@.... and others saying 80M@... Apr 09 18:43:59 depends on the memory map of your app Apr 09 18:44:12 ho ho hum Apr 09 18:44:27 and a bottle o ... Apr 09 18:45:54 awozniak: I don't believe there is a "correct" value. Try each and see which works best. Apr 09 18:47:18 koen wmat: I'm not super familiar with dsplink. I know I'm using gstreamer filters that use the DSP, but I'm not aware of anything I can set, nor am I aware of whether or not the hole location gets passed into dsplink. Is there a document that covers all this? Apr 09 18:47:52 <_av500_> awozniak: google "dsplink memory map" Apr 09 18:48:33 <_av500_> awozniak: also check loadmodules.sh Apr 09 18:49:13 awozniak: http://bit.ly/HvaiQz Apr 09 18:52:01 ah, nm, my dhcp ran out of leases due to the random hwaddr of the xm Apr 09 18:55:37 Can anyone help? I want to install the Angstrom-Demo. After I format the memory and copy the files, I run the board, and appears the Angstrom logo on the screen next to a working bar, but it never goes more than 60% Apr 09 18:55:47 _av500_: so if I have modprobe cmemk [...] phys_start=0x86300000, then 99M is the number for me? Apr 09 19:09:33 <_av500_> indeed Apr 09 19:10:17 <_av500_> the math is rather simple Apr 09 19:34:51 Is the problem am335x systems have with PIO+DMA on USB a flaw in the design? Or just something different that the drivers have not caught up with yet? Apr 09 19:42:09 Mojito: did you ask this 2 days ago? Apr 09 19:42:19 Got no answer. Apr 09 19:42:30 I am wondering if a fix is possible and I just need to wait for it Apr 09 19:43:57 As a workaround I am using a kernel with DMA disabled, but that makes recording simple audio form a USB source take 36% of the CPU Apr 09 20:23:41 prpplague: received the rework station today. Keeping it boxed until i get home. Apr 09 20:23:50 hmpf, again, 3.3.1: done, booting the kernel. nothing else. Apr 09 20:23:57 djlewis: :) Apr 09 20:35:58 ah, disabling CONFIG_OMAP_RESET_CLOCKS helped again Apr 09 20:37:27 Russ: it booted. so when he fixed that static thing, he should send the patch to stable@. Better than before. Apr 09 20:38:15 not sure if I will again bisect to find the clock damager :/ Apr 09 20:40:10 maybe I will just check if that is again in the uart-patch-series ;) Apr 09 21:03:12 Anyone have any luck accessing /dev/video0 using OpenCV? Apr 09 22:57:27 Hmmmm Apr 09 23:04:57 What's that humming sound? Apr 09 23:05:41 loose laminations on the xformer ;) Apr 09 23:06:11 Time to replace the fluorescent ballast? Apr 09 23:06:52 or just glop some more shellac on it... Apr 09 23:07:30 Temperature's rising in AZ - my CPU fan is running faster lately. Apr 09 23:09:31 hitting 80C yet? Apr 09 23:09:41 Not that high. Apr 09 23:10:03 no scorch finger tips? Apr 09 23:10:04 Maybe 35C today. Apr 09 23:10:08 oh Apr 09 23:10:48 30C in my office... Apr 09 23:11:02 haven't turned on the A/C yet. Apr 09 23:12:01 wonder how much hotter it is in Tuscon Apr 09 23:12:23 Tucson is usually a few deg cooler. Higher elevation. Apr 09 23:12:33 but it is further south Apr 09 23:12:43 Closer to the sun! Apr 09 23:12:58 didn't think they were that high up unlike flagstaff Apr 09 23:13:21 Not 8k', but they're about 1k' higher than PHX Apr 09 23:13:54 that might explain why I seem to use less gas coming back to PHX Apr 09 23:14:18 three words: adiabatic lapse rate. Apr 09 23:14:51 yeah - going downhill the whole way. Apr 09 23:15:51 Here's a weird one though: driving PHX->El Paso we get ~34mpg. El Paso -> San Antonio we get more like 27mpg. Bad gas in W. TX? Apr 09 23:16:06 getting a headwind? Apr 09 23:16:24 Seems consistent no matter which direction. Apr 09 23:17:01 could be.. CA gas is about 10% less MPG. maybe ElPaso use the same crap Apr 09 23:18:10 That's what we figured. Apr 09 23:18:22 Too much ethanol or something. Apr 09 23:18:23 but 7mpg is a lot Apr 09 23:19:35 14yo Honda Civic - engine controller probably doesn't know how to deal with these modern blends. Apr 09 23:20:07 doesn't the E90 stuff rot the hoses in engines of that era? Apr 09 23:20:33 Don't know for certain. Apr 09 23:20:41 Haven't sprung any leaks tho. Apr 09 23:22:51 emeb: by chance, do you know of any off the shelf loop antennas with full set of parameters? (i.e. something to use for measurements) Apr 09 23:23:28 You mean like a reference standard antenna for range testing? Apr 09 23:23:52 kind of... more of for fieldstrength measurements Apr 09 23:24:06 chips are too narrow band Apr 09 23:25:36 Not familiar with any specific ones. I'd start looking at the usual suspects - Agilent, B&K, R&S, etc. Apr 09 23:25:45 'k Apr 09 23:25:51 Probably expect to pay $BIGNUM though. Apr 09 23:27:00 What freq range? Apr 09 23:27:47 emeb: San Antonio -> El Paso is also 27mpg, right? Apr 09 23:27:56 Tartarus: pretty much. Apr 09 23:28:07 k, so it's not just uphill vs downhill :) Apr 09 23:28:14 correct Apr 09 23:28:45 ds2: something like this? http://www.extech.com/instruments/product.asp?catid=57&prodid=594 Apr 09 23:36:09 woo, just got my beaglebone in the mail Apr 09 23:41:25 emeb: around maybe 1MHz - 5GHz Apr 09 23:42:32 ds2: Looks like there's lots of WiFi test gear for that range. Apr 09 23:42:40 emeb: that might be close.... was hoping it would be just an antenna for a spec an. Apr 09 23:45:12 I see the limits on those... Apr 09 23:46:28 A bunch of FSM test antennas here: http://www2.rohde-schwarz.com/en/products/test_and_measurement/emc_field_strength/emc_accessories/ Apr 09 23:47:45 Prices? If you have to ask... Apr 09 23:48:17 no, the extech appears to give me the integral of all the different frequencies Apr 09 23:48:48 got to rethink this Apr 09 23:49:05 Ah - Extech is prolly just a wide-band rectifier + filter. Apr 09 23:49:12 yep Apr 09 23:49:28 I got the spec an already...just the problem of a calibrated antenna Apr 09 23:50:16 I've seen stuff like that before (see Rohde & Schwarz above) - usually they come in a velvet-lined hardwood box. Apr 09 23:50:23 Treated like the crown jewels. Apr 09 23:50:29 and priced like it ;) Apr 09 23:50:33 yep Apr 09 23:51:26 there are some nice PCB antennas but they are not fully characterized Apr 09 23:54:24 NIST does characterization: http://www.nist.gov/calibrations/electromagnetic-field-strength.cfm Apr 09 23:56:53 emeb: the goal here is to see if there is a better alternative to the EMI labs Apr 09 23:57:27 ds2: I figured - that last was lacking an tag. Apr 09 23:57:32 :) Apr 09 23:58:15 * mranostay scrolls up Apr 10 00:02:04 check out these high power susceptibility test antennas: http://www.arww-rfmicro.com/html/13100.asp?S=1 Apr 10 00:02:13 15kW - *cough* Apr 10 00:04:38 heh, that should make `nice' hand held wand Apr 10 00:05:07 Anything that needs a beefy tripod... Apr 10 00:47:50 prpplague: has gone linear. Apr 10 00:48:10 indeed Apr 10 00:48:25 * prpplague returns from watching his son's track meet Apr 10 01:20:18 turns out my image was corrupt somehow and was not booting with video Apr 10 01:20:29 downloading it elsewhere helped Apr 10 01:20:45 so weird Apr 10 01:22:18 koen: ho ho hum, trying to decide if i want to remove some comments from some my g+ posts Apr 10 01:31:40 lol, does anyone know about these idc files, do they get rolled into the kernel ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 10 03:00:00 2012