**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 17 03:00:00 2012 May 17 03:15:08 custom alarm system now running 100% on the beaglebone. May 17 03:24:40 hmmm Taiwan Beer isn't bad May 17 03:33:22 hey, what's the u-boot configure command for the bone? May 17 03:33:24 am335x_evm? May 17 03:42:37 First, you need to make sure to get the TI u-boot. May 17 03:42:39 not the stock one May 17 03:42:47 at least that was the case a couple months ago May 17 03:43:02 once you've done that, then I'm not sure what the configure command is :) May 17 03:43:31 yeah, I have the one that comes with he ti sdk May 17 03:43:45 my bone hangs here: Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel S. May 17 03:43:51 Running Debian. May 17 03:43:58 XMPPwocky: I bet it's probably what you said May 17 03:44:04 and only when it is connected to a USB source that will not provide 2A of power. May 17 03:44:11 that's the name of the kernel defconfig. (I haven't built u-boot for bone :( ) May 17 03:46:48 any ideas? May 17 03:47:01 really? 2A? May 17 03:47:17 Seems that way May 17 03:47:19 the bone shouldn't draw more than ~750-1000ma in my experience May 17 03:47:30 Well this is what is happening. May 17 03:47:33 weird May 17 03:47:50 If I plug the bone via USB to a USB power adapter like the ones used to charge the iPhone. May 17 03:47:54 It will boot. May 17 03:48:00 If I plug it into my laptop it will boot May 17 03:48:17 if I plug it into a USB port on a Debain box May 17 03:48:18 it wont. May 17 03:48:27 hangs on Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel S. May 17 03:54:40 So why would it boot into single user mode for some reason... May 17 03:55:02 Why? May 17 03:55:23 Nobody has a beaglebone they are all to cheap. May 17 03:57:16 wat May 17 03:58:54 Did I stutter? May 17 03:58:55 I'm shutting down this channel and forwarding everyone to #beagle May 17 03:59:03 * You have been kicked from #beaglebone by jkridner (RITRedbeard) May 17 03:59:32 RITRedbeard: ? May 17 04:00:27 fun stuff. May 17 04:00:31 Nobody has a Beaglebone because they're all too cheap and instead they're opting for Raspberry Pi. May 17 04:00:32 #beagle is good for discussing beagleboard or beaglebone May 17 04:00:40 too cheap? May 17 04:00:51 Honestly $89 for all you get is great! May 17 04:01:02 er, lots of people have them? May 17 04:01:15 a bit under 20,000. May 17 04:01:22 Just an arduino with ethernet shield costs $60 May 17 04:01:37 185/20,000 is quite small May 17 04:01:38 so the bone will the shat loads more power was worth it for me. May 17 04:01:55 I suppose I don't like being kicked randomly. May 17 04:02:04 How is the power consumption on the Bone? May 17 04:02:05 true…. seems there aren't that many people chatting. May 17 04:02:12 you weren't kicked randomly. May 17 04:02:24 I brought everyone into this room to keep critical mass... May 17 04:03:01 about 2W. May 17 04:03:52 USB-to-JTAG and USB-to-serial debugging features are included, which can be handy. May 17 04:04:02 lots of low-level I/O May 17 04:04:07 A/Ds. May 17 04:04:08 Yes, but real life performance? The Pi is extremely bad in this regard. May 17 04:04:27 Linear power supplies abound. May 17 04:04:46 should be roughly 2X Pi for typical operations... May 17 04:04:53 a bit higher for vector operations... May 17 04:05:03 a bit lower on some float... May 17 04:05:10 bone doesn't have the video acceleration. May 17 04:05:11 No, I meant power draw. May 17 04:05:27 I know the cortex is roughly 66% clock-per-clock May 17 04:05:31 depends what you are doing. May 17 04:05:31 faster May 17 04:05:31 jkridner: you mean video decoding? May 17 04:05:39 Peak load. May 17 04:05:47 Say... when kernel is booting May 17 04:06:06 http://e2e.ti.com/support/dsp/sitara_arm174_microprocessors/f/791/t/182935.aspx May 17 04:06:08 around 2W. you can idle much lower. May 17 04:06:16 XMPPwocky: yeah. May 17 04:06:40 Only 350mA at boot/peak load? May 17 04:06:44 * RITRedbeard blinks. May 17 04:06:46 you can use NEON to do video decode, but it isn't as good as the accelerators on Pi, though those only do fixed codecs. May 17 04:06:50 RITRedbeard: <3 ARM May 17 04:07:26 The Pi is something like beyond 600mA May 17 04:07:34 Meaning battery power is a PITA. May 17 04:07:34 RITRedbeard: older CPU May 17 04:08:13 the extra cost for the bone vs the pi isn't just the pi's subsidies, it's much newer hardware May 17 04:09:15 and you can manually clock it down (I /think/ there're Linux drivers for it, not sure, but the hardware's documented) May 17 04:09:36 cpufreq can be used to scale the clock down. May 17 04:09:44 ah, yep May 17 04:10:05 Is there a LVDS or HDMI interface for the Bone yet? May 17 04:10:43 http://www.mouser.com/beaglebonecapes/ May 17 04:10:55 http://www.mouser.com/beaglebonecapes/#tabs-2 , specifically May 17 04:11:45 16 bit color? May 17 04:12:07 yep May 17 04:13:09 $50! May 17 04:13:10 ouch May 17 04:13:37 RITRedbeard: what's your use-case? May 17 04:14:14 I should have been an electrical engineer. May 17 04:14:36 easy enough to make a LVDS/DVI interface May 17 04:14:50 I want to resurrect a 10" Thinkpad to be a true all day thin-top. May 17 04:16:54 Don't look at me like I'm weird... May 17 04:18:19 hm May 17 04:18:41 if you're lucky, you might be able to connect the LCD semi-directly to the bone May 17 04:19:45 What happens if you plug both the USB cable in and 5V power from an adapter at the same time May 17 04:19:47 into the bone? May 17 04:19:52 Bone has 5V IO right? May 17 04:19:58 is it smart enough to only draw power from one? May 17 04:20:49 KeatonT: hopefully May 17 04:20:57 RITRedbeard: GPIO? May 17 04:20:58 lol May 17 04:21:02 yessir May 17 04:21:52 RITRedbeard: according to the TRM, if you connect a LCD directly you can get 8 bits per pixel (24-bit color May 17 04:22:35 I have an A3 bone and I am seeing some weird stability issues. I just noticed that uboot as mtest command for simple memory test May 17 04:22:42 has anyone else tried this? May 17 04:22:52 It's detecting all kinds of errors May 17 04:22:57 doesn't seems like it should be May 17 04:27:27 doceme: sounds like a bad board May 17 04:28:04 well it is faster on AC power May 17 04:28:51 :( yeah, that's what it's looking like May 17 04:35:11 anyone know when the beaglbone rev A6 boards are going to be available? May 17 04:36:52 doceme why wait? May 17 04:37:28 i probably won't, just thought if they are almost out, I might as well wait a few weeks. May 17 04:39:21 hmmm wonder if the A5 will get the new kernel May 17 04:41:21 why wonder May 17 04:41:23 port it yourself. May 17 04:41:27 sources and specs are available. May 17 04:41:41 lol the bone is definitely the "do it yourself" platform :P May 17 04:41:57 it isn't the bone. all platforms are like that. May 17 04:42:25 I guess I'm just now starting to understand that. May 17 04:44:26 having control of your fate is a good thing. May 17 04:48:51 how many people really have control of their own fate? May 17 04:49:16 * RITRedbeard raises hand. May 17 04:50:35 i put my fate in the noodly appendages of the flying spaghetti monster, pasta be upon him May 17 04:53:33 Arrr matey - ye be a pastafarian? May 17 04:54:07 you sound like a holy man yourself May 17 04:59:11 you know this is the reason I love IRC> May 17 04:59:12 IRC* May 17 04:59:14 lol :P May 17 04:59:57 just here to promote complete randomness May 17 05:01:25 Aren't we all? May 17 06:34:35 what is the package in angstrom that includes mkimage from u-boot so that i can "make uImage" and have it not fail? May 17 06:34:59 i might try #angstrom May 17 06:47:27 fcuking hell.. May 17 06:47:44 is there any documentation somewhere that IS up to date ? May 17 06:50:35 up to date docs, nice oxymoron, isn May 17 06:50:42 err, isn't it? May 17 06:50:50 it is.. May 17 06:50:51 It could be worse. May 17 06:50:56 You could have zero documentation. May 17 06:51:15 I'll trade your board for a Raspberry Pi. :P May 17 06:51:41 heh May 17 06:52:46 source code is the best documentation anyway... May 17 06:52:56 one would say that with all the interest in the PI, and all the 'normal decent people' interested in that thing, there should be a massload of stuff written about it May 17 06:53:31 or do all PI owners just look at it, say 'nice' and tuck it away after making a few instagram photos on it for their hipster twitter account ? May 17 06:53:49 The latter. May 17 06:54:05 fierman: you're forgetting the "talk smack about beagle" step May 17 06:54:09 They think it's a good platform for XMBC for whatever reason. May 17 06:54:20 Nevermind the fact it doesn't have a SATA port. May 17 06:54:46 koen: i would not dare to May 17 06:55:07 what else are PI's good for besides photo subjects? May 17 06:55:17 ds2: supercomputing May 17 06:55:22 dust collecting May 17 06:55:23 it is in the same category as 8088 system boards May 17 06:55:25 it's really fast you know May 17 06:55:41 koen: I stand corrected. May 17 06:56:18 PIs are pretty great May 17 06:56:26 of course May 17 06:56:27 if you're wondering if your wife is cheating May 17 06:56:30 :P May 17 06:56:51 (and the RasPi is a pretty awesome board too, this generation needs a new Acorn) May 17 06:57:11 riscOS .,. been a while May 17 06:57:44 fierman: sure, but it's easier to sell a school district on buying a few hundred r-pis if they cost <$30 May 17 06:57:53 ;-) May 17 06:58:01 No... May 17 06:58:07 so you learned programming ob the bbc as well eh May 17 06:58:15 The Raspberry Pi Foundation has no understanding of open source software. May 17 06:58:21 turtle madness May 17 06:58:22 fierman: nope May 17 06:58:34 I learned to program /hilariously/ May 17 06:58:49 to program your wife? May 17 06:59:05 have people actually tried to run a ton of stuff on a ARM11? May 17 06:59:09 I got an old crappy Powerbook 100 with a bunch of programs on it when I was like 7 May 17 06:59:37 one of those was White Knight, which I now realize is for connecting to BBSs May 17 07:00:03 but I didn't have a modem... but I did have an enormous White Knight reference manual (came with the computer) May 17 07:00:22 one day I got bored and started trying things out May 17 07:00:32 That's an odd name for an application. May 17 07:00:39 there was print, while, and if/then May 17 07:01:08 try to spend some time with the N800 May 17 07:01:11 but I ended up writing a few simple (like, really simple) programs May 17 07:01:43 i am a programming n00b still. that's what you get when you learn LOGO on BBC micros May 17 07:01:53 :) May 17 07:01:56 eveventually checked out a book from the library on programming, but I didn't notice it was in BASIC May 17 07:02:24 so I convinced my parents to let me install BASIC on their PC, and it pretty much went predictably from there May 17 07:09:28 anyway.. I built the mainline kernel natively, on oneiric. installed the kernel using the boot update script from rcn, and now the machine hangs upon boot May 17 07:09:32 what did I miss ? May 17 07:10:27 it is stuck upon mounting rootfs May 17 07:10:46 freezes, no panic or any other verbosity May 17 07:18:26 (used the mainline kernel from koen's tree) May 17 07:58:39 anyway.. direct question: what do I need to do to install a kernel on beagleboard_xm ? May 17 08:37:34 fierman: paste output at dpaste.com or similiar May 17 08:41:46 aholler: output of dmesg ? May 17 08:42:28 you have dmes? I though it will hang at boot May 17 08:43:17 sorry for not being too descriptive. kernel loads, but hangs halway. somewhere upon trying to mount rootfs May 17 08:43:42 therfor paste output May 17 08:43:49 easier than to descrobe May 17 08:43:58 yes. i will do that. May 17 09:06:59 Hi all..after getting u-boot prompt on board, i raloadb 0x82000000 115200, and i have configured the kermit on my pc for 115200 and all other parameters and trying to send a file..but sending is failing after few retries..do i need to do anything else to send and receive uImage file? May 17 09:07:14 *ran loadb May 17 09:14:16 <_av500_> stop minicom, then use kermit May 17 09:14:53 <_av500_> btw, did you forget your nick password? May 17 09:16:18 (also make sure there are no other instances of minicom running atm.) May 17 09:17:28 _av500_, yes i forgot, need to reset, i will do that May 17 09:17:55 i need to run loadb command on minicom and close minicom? May 17 09:18:47 <_av500_> minicom and kermit both use the serial port May 17 09:18:51 <_av500_> but not at the same time May 17 09:19:09 <_av500_> if you read minicom docs you can even invoke kermit from inside minicom May 17 09:19:28 <_av500_> but I wont read them to you May 17 09:19:41 i will read May 17 09:21:55 is it like i need to run loadb on minicom, close minicom, and then configure kermit and send uImage, in this order? May 17 09:22:14 there is a kermit function in minicom May 17 09:22:49 <_av500_> you can invoke external handlers May 17 09:22:54 <_av500_> CTRL-A S or so May 17 09:23:38 <_av500_> that and 1mbit/s makes for fast turnaround when doing e.g. bootloader development May 17 09:25:29 ok..i followed the steps i wrote before, sending is happening..so now does uImage get run automatically like u-boot ran? May 17 09:26:08 <_av500_> loadb does not sound like "run" to me May 17 09:26:32 yes loadb as i understood is sending a ready for sending file May 17 09:27:20 <_av500_> so now its sent May 17 09:27:42 yes it's sent..sending is over..i will open minicom now May 17 09:29:03 bootm 0x82000000 or boot are not getting the kernel image.. May 17 09:32:18 aholler: http://dpaste.com/749267/ May 17 09:32:33 brief description of state of bb in ;ast lines May 17 09:33:49 what would be interesting for me is a step-by-step on the preferred method of installing a custom kernel. May 17 09:36:49 you have rootwait, so it will wait forever for a rootfs with /sbin/init at /dev/mmcblk0p5 May 17 09:37:01 try rootdelay=20 or such, tosee an error May 17 09:38:06 aholler: ok. trying May 17 09:38:17 the heartbeat led will first start to blink, when the module gets loaded, so you might prefer to link it into the kernel May 17 09:38:27 aholler: no change. same behaviour May 17 09:40:01 maybe your kernel is broken, why are you using 3.2.0-rc1? there is a 3.2.17 out May 17 09:40:08 aholler: what do you mean by link module to kernel ? May 17 09:40:32 heartbeat not as module but statically linked into the kernel May 17 09:40:42 [*] May 17 09:41:23 and you have replaced rootwait with rootdelay? May 17 09:41:26 ok.. in fact, I did not configure the kernel, and I did not build 3.2.0-rc1 either. uImage is 3.2.16 mainline May 17 09:41:39 yes, i replaced rootwait with rootdelay May 17 09:41:47 your output says 3.2.0-rc1 May 17 09:42:21 and it loads zIamge and initrd which looks like ubuntu May 17 09:42:26 i see .. i don;t quite uinderstand that. kernel which was on the system before installing new kernel was a 3.2.16 too May 17 09:42:41 i did install zImage and uImage May 17 09:43:51 o.. May 17 09:44:11 actually. uImage _is_ a 3.2.0 kernel... May 17 09:44:19 and I _did_ get it from koen's tree May 17 09:44:22 not configuring the kernel isn't a good idea. the default is rather unusable as much stuff is missing May 17 09:45:21 ok.. since documentation told me configuring would not be necessary, and since i understood koen;s tree was sort of patched and ready May 17 09:45:40 ok, maybe koens tree just misses the tags but has applied the patches May 17 09:45:55 i really do not understand why github gives me a 3.2.0 one from the 3.2.16 mainline branch May 17 09:45:58 that's odd May 17 09:46:11 mainline is at git.kernel.org May 17 09:46:14 yes May 17 09:46:47 o,... May 17 09:46:52 not at : https://github.com/koenkooi/linux/tree/linux-mainline-3.2.16-r120d ? May 17 09:46:53 git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git May 17 09:47:12 thats mainline, koen hosts patches May 17 09:47:22 s/patches/patched kernels/ May 17 09:47:40 i built the kernel from the link i just pasted May 17 09:47:47 native btw. May 17 09:47:55 and that went without errors May 17 09:48:19 i am sort of at loss now to be honest May 17 09:48:24 as said, if koens repo doesn't contain the tags, you will see wrong versions May 17 09:48:52 try "git describe" May 17 09:50:34 actually, i did not a checkout, but grabbed the tarball from that page May 17 09:50:56 i understand now i think May 17 09:51:06 I am trying to insert cmemk.ko module. when I use insmod cmemk.ko it is getting loaded. But I am unable to set the memory address May 17 09:51:57 aholler: on a keynote, what would be the best option now to build 3.2.16 or 3.2.17 ? May 17 09:52:07 including koens patches ? May 17 09:52:29 3.2.17 mainline with koens patches boots here May 17 09:53:25 http://ahsoftware.de/config-3.2.16.beagleboard is the config I use, it might miss the network-driver for the xm as I have a c4 May 17 09:53:27 how would i build it? checkout kernel.org , or checkout koens repo and choose correct branch ? May 17 09:54:34 if you have cloned koens repo, you just can add the stable tree: git remote add stable git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git; get remote update May 17 09:56:23 afterwards just do e.g. "git co -b linux-3.2.y remotes/stable/linux-3.2.y" May 17 09:56:43 s/co/checkout/, i have an alias co for checkout May 17 09:57:00 that would checkout the latest stable May 17 09:57:06 thank you ;-) May 17 09:58:03 that's a great help. will start now. ;-) May 17 09:58:52 fierman: maybe https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/beagleboard-3.2/ is less confusing for you May 17 09:59:29 oh, hmm, an error above, i meant 3.2.17 without koens patches boots here ;) May 17 09:59:41 :) May 17 10:00:17 koen: so instead of using your patches, use roberts over kernel mainline ? May 17 10:01:44 do the netherlands plenk by default as the french too? May 17 10:03:02 aholler: journalism background here. common courtesy towards the reader May 17 10:03:21 fierman: robert and I both use https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/beagleboard-3.2/ May 17 10:03:31 i got the script to do all kermit settings do a loadb at the address and then do bootm..i tried to send this file..but sending is failing..can that be because of mismatch of kermit settings or what else could be reasons? May 17 10:03:39 fierman: ? journalist do plenk by default? May 17 10:03:45 (as you can see from the top commit: 'RobertCNelson authored 3 days ago') May 17 10:05:26 koen: ok. thanks :) May 17 10:06:01 aholler: i did over the last 15 years. no complaints. never thought about it actually. will try to notice from now on :) May 17 10:06:52 also , I am not a _real_ journalist. running small autonomous/political media May 17 10:07:11 which is by definition biased and most important unpaid May 17 10:11:00 * koen only plenks when using URLs May 17 10:11:36 please see if you find any mistakes in the below kermit script http://dpaste.com/749278/ May 17 10:32:46 _av500_, do you have suggestions for me about what to read, in order to know when to send the script exactly? script looks really perfect in the sense it's doing all, kermit settings, loadb and then bootm..but sending this file, i am not getting why it's failing, when it was able to send uImage alone May 17 10:35:47 maybe you should read the script and compare it with the output of your u-boot at start-up May 17 10:36:13 and guess what input does May 17 10:37:31 output of your u-boot at start-up, meaning printenv output? May 17 10:39:04 i understood what the script is doing..input is what comes from script itself right? configuring kermit commands in the script are done in my pc, then loadb and bootm are sent out.. May 17 10:42:36 Does anyone have any tips on booting the std Ubuntu ARM 12.04 armhf image on a BB C3 - I am getting stuck at the end of uBoot. It just pauses on "Booting the kernel." May 17 10:50:33 Dingo_aus1: BB not BBxm? and armHF? just DON'T! May 17 10:51:25 my c4 boots runs fine with armhf May 17 10:51:41 ok, I'll take your advice, I have a Panda to play with as well so I'll try armhf on it, is there a website that can tell my why BB C3 with armhf is a bad idea? May 17 10:51:45 dm8tbr: what should be the problem? May 17 10:53:47 aholler: IIRC armhf by default also uses thumb2 and the silicon on BB has broken thumbs May 17 10:54:42 armhf isn;t even recommended for xm, right ? May 17 10:54:54 XM should be fine May 17 10:54:58 ah, thats why I had only bad experiences when trying to use thumb. good that I don't compile using thumb(2). May 17 10:55:12 thumb is a pain May 17 10:55:16 thumb2 is a lot better May 17 10:55:30 but as dm8tbr, early omap3 silicon had bugs when using thumb2 May 17 10:55:35 (spl)u-boot with thumb2 boots just fine May 17 10:55:42 aholler: which by experience will run fine for long periods of time and then suddenly _everything_ explodes spectacularly. everything segfaults etc May 17 10:56:23 but trying to use thumb(2) in userspace I always had such experience as you are desribing May 17 10:56:28 beagle-xm runs thumb2 fine May 17 10:57:17 much revised ARM IP core IIRC May 17 10:57:26 r3p2 instead of r1p3 May 17 10:58:23 but there's rarely any reason to use thumb2 over arm May 17 10:58:31 unless you're _really_ tight on space May 17 11:07:49 i got the uImage running May 17 11:08:04 now to fight with file system.. May 17 11:10:47 on beaglebon u-boot sends no bootp packages May 17 11:13:35 afenkart: did someone suddenly add usb and ethernet support to the bone uboot? May 17 11:17:48 koen: the patch.sh script in https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/beaglebone-3.2 is supposed to pull the stable kernel tree from kernel.org , right? as in. the script does already everything for me: clone and patch. May 17 11:19:31 grml, what about latest version of u-boot, contains lots of commits with am335x and etherent. anybody tried? May 17 11:21:34 https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel i meant May 17 11:37:22 anyway. output of the script: http://dpad.com/hold/749293 May 17 11:39:55 i suppose i need to grab the patches from somewhere else May 17 11:40:39 you don't need patches May 17 11:41:33 i got uImage and file system to nand following this link https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/beagleboard/NvCHdKwZP6A, what will be the boot command to boot after this? May 17 11:42:00 fierman: if you'll need them you will notice it May 17 11:42:11 aholler: the script expects a patches directory apparently in the same directory as from where i started the script May 17 11:43:35 i feel dumbed out now actually May 17 11:44:41 day 5 of getting a recent patched kernel running on a recent debian based os May 17 11:45:27 if someone could poitn me towards a step-by-step documentation which goes through the process, it would be most welcome May 17 11:45:55 as said, a kernel without patches runs here just fine May 17 11:46:31 ok :) May 17 11:46:58 but patches also address specific bb_xm hardware, or ? May 17 11:47:12 use 3.2.17 and start patching when you notice problems May 17 11:47:41 I'm having issues with getting my uboot parameters to remain persistent. I can't save to nand using saveenv - fair enough due to the device layout, but I can't get it to acknowledge my uEnv.txt file. Should it be straightforward or am I missing something? May 17 11:48:31 exosyst: set your device in uEnv on rw , instead of ro May 17 11:48:43 aholler: ok... May 17 11:48:56 aholler: and where to get the patches from ? :) May 17 11:49:20 fierman, How do you mean? May 17 11:49:28 nevermind, i need a walk May 17 11:49:36 completely confused now May 17 11:49:59 aholler, is -p1 preferred? May 17 11:50:27 fierman, Is is read/write when mounted on my machine (Fedora Linux) May 17 11:50:30 It* May 17 11:50:42 mdp: no, git am May 17 11:50:49 exosyst: check uEnv.txt May 17 11:51:06 aholler, ;) May 17 11:52:37 How odd, why would it be mounting as read-only? May 17 11:56:28 probably an idiot test May 17 11:56:36 no idea actually May 17 11:57:39 fierman, I remounted as read/write and set the following as my uEnv.txt http://pastebin.com/aPJpnt9t - it still doesn't work as expected. Am I missing something, should I be overwriting bootcmd as well? May 17 11:59:50 exosyst: ah. you are booting over nfs. no idea, sorry May 17 12:00:11 maybe its not a bb problem then, but a portmap thing May 17 12:00:16 check exports May 17 12:01:29 If I boot and halt at uboot, I can enter it all just fine. It doesn't even *try* to do any of the stuff specified when set in uEnv.txt May 17 12:02:30 are s-load.bin and u-boot supposed get to default ones in nand if i donand erase 0 80000? May 17 12:09:40 exosyst: i really have no idea. i noticed that some documentation still refers to an older methodm, where uEnv.txt is called differently. And I could not find definite documentation on uEnv.txt so far May 17 12:09:46 if you can find it, much obliged May 17 12:10:45 Man, the Raspberry Pi kids are zealots. May 17 12:12:10 what now? May 17 12:12:13 is robert nelson on here too? May 17 12:16:58 fierman, Boom got it. So, pulling apart the hardcoded bootcmd string from uboot it turns into nested if statements. You can see something called uenvcmd is checked. You can override *that* to make it do what you want. Bootcmd can't be overwritten May 17 12:18:09 isn't normal with kernel 3.2.16 on beagleboard xM the usb don't work? May 17 12:18:20 fierman: uEnv.txt was always called uEnv.txt May 17 12:18:43 fierman: boot.scr is completely different: it's command based and needs a special uboot header May 17 12:19:22 koen: boot.scr is deprecated now, right ? May 17 12:21:30 fierman: it serves a different purpose May 17 12:22:17 what purpose? May 17 12:23:01 pass in commands May 17 12:23:09 load at a specific address May 17 12:23:10 etc May 17 12:26:10 koen: May 17 12:26:21 then the documentation on elinux is incorrect May 17 12:26:46 where it states that newer versions of u-boot look for uEnv.txt instead of boot.scr May 17 12:26:52 so, that should be updated? May 17 12:26:52 is nand recovered to factory state mean, nand is supposed to have default u-boot and previous stages of boot loading files? May 17 12:27:15 fierman: uboot looks for a bunch of files :) May 17 12:27:58 koen: actually, documentation saysit is necessary to 'convert' boot.scr into uEnv.txt May 17 12:28:21 * koen doesn't read wikis May 17 12:28:27 there are wrong by definition May 17 12:28:33 i remember it is other way around May 17 12:28:42 I try to keep the SRM up to date, that's it May 17 12:28:50 well, I am sort of dependent on documentation to get work done. Also I was taught to read the fine manual always May 17 12:28:59 koen: i understand that May 17 12:29:27 fierman: you're new here, so you probably don't know about my extreme hatred for wikis :) May 17 12:29:29 koen, that's sometimes a fatal flaw of the processors wiki May 17 12:30:05 koen, it regurgitates the TRM in many pages…then falls out of date as the TRM is updated May 17 12:30:26 koen: i share the hatred actually. don;t get me wrong ;-) (maybe new here, but not new in general) May 17 12:30:49 fierman: but as far as wikis go, elinux tends to be the most correct for (embedded) linux stuff May 17 12:30:58 the sort of problem tehse days is that documentatioon is spreadover crapbuntu forums, vanity blogs and wikis May 17 12:30:59 is nand erase 0 80000,supposed to get default uboot or i need to write to nand? May 17 12:31:17 and I'm not saying that because wmat gives me candy at conferences for every elinux wiki edit :) May 17 12:31:53 koen, bought and paid for May 17 12:32:11 what i am sort of missing here is a 200 page manual, like i got with a neat fpga project i acquired last month May 17 12:32:29 koen, same way I got tricked into flyswatter2 support :) May 17 12:33:02 I am using the kernel workflow on the angstrom homepage to modify boards-omap3beagle.c and enable SPI. However when I compile and deploy the changes are not getting incorporated May 17 12:33:34 the uImage file I previously made is the same, I checked it with diff May 17 12:33:36 Yup that works for the beaglebone. I posted a gist on how to do it if anyone's interested https://gist.github.com/2718613 May 17 12:33:47 fierman, clearly writing documentation is not as exciting as making something work..I know how I prefer to spend my spare time May 17 12:34:51 fierman: here is the original documenation: http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2011-March/088118.html support for boot.scr vanished May 17 12:34:56 If i've messed anything up or there's a better way I'd love to hear it. This should be wiki'd as well :) May 17 12:35:40 aholler: ok :) i get what you mean May 17 12:36:00 mdp: was not meant as an approach or whatever May 17 12:36:37 serekson: you do know spidev2.0 is enabled by default, right? May 17 12:36:44 fierman, I was just justifying why the situation exists May 17 12:37:27 and the beaglebone uboot env was done by our favourite TI software team May 17 12:37:37 jkridner and I haven't cleaned it up yet May 17 12:39:44 koen: I did not, but I am more concerned about not being able to modify the kernel May 17 12:40:25 koen, seems like Tartarus would be interested in that though May 17 12:42:05 serekson: if you follow the workflow it works May 17 12:44:38 koen: I followed it exactly but my output is no different. after I deploy I can go back and the board-omap3beagle.c files is still different but the uImage it creates still has the timestamp from yesterday when I made the default one May 17 12:44:56 koen: I deleted the file, so it is recreating it May 17 12:45:06 just with old data May 17 12:47:03 does anyone here have any idea about kermit? how can i write mlo and u-boot that are on RAM to nand? i do not know the addresses of those files in RAM May 17 12:47:12 and you add the patches to SRC_URI and bump PR? May 17 12:49:17 koen, is that question for me? May 17 12:50:13 no May 17 12:50:38 koen: I don't get that far in the process, I thought that after the deploy I should have a new uImage I can test with May 17 12:51:03 yes May 17 12:51:57 but the deploy just gernerates the same uImage I made before I modified anything May 17 12:52:08 same timestamp and everything, I am not sure where it is getting it from May 17 12:55:31 mdp: justifying the situation with leaving out the seller is a bit one-sided ;) May 17 12:57:04 What's the preferred distro for the beaglebone? Yocto or Angstrom or other? May 17 12:57:18 Arch works nice too May 17 12:59:46 aholler, it's too early for me to follow that ;) May 17 13:00:28 fierman: btw. what fpga-project is that which has such a nice documentation? May 17 13:01:27 aholler: the chameleon 64 May 17 13:02:38 a small project, done by a small team May 17 13:03:25 basically a user-ready board with physical i/o designed for running cores of 1980s 8 and 16 bits home computers May 17 13:03:51 c64, amiga and zx spectrum cores useable now. May 17 13:04:59 I don't understand how if I modified a .c file in the work directory it is not using it when it compiles. I have done bitbake clean and compile -f so I think it shold have cleaned up all the old stuff May 17 13:05:18 then again, much simpler in its purpose and goal than a complex developer board like bb of course May 17 13:09:53 how can you change boot args once the kernel has loaded.... for example the capture buffer sizes or the display mode? May 17 13:13:15 you can't, boot args are _boot_ args. so you have to search for other methods, e.g. module options, /proc, /sys, or sysctl May 17 13:14:09 aholler: yes i see the attributes in /sys May 17 13:14:21 i just did a ls /sys/class May 17 13:14:35 how do you modify the attributes May 17 13:15:25 sysctl May 17 13:15:35 by reading the module documentation (linux/Documentation) or it's source. if it is possible, it's usually documented May 17 13:15:56 got it May 17 13:39:01 hi all, anyone know how to unload g_mass_storage when the beaglebone start? May 17 13:39:21 I tried to modify modules file in /etc/ but it doesn't appear May 17 13:45:05 noone? May 17 13:45:22 Hello everyone, I got a problem when run an Application made by Qt Creator 4.8 for my BB-xM board. when I run it, the desktop shows 2 cursor,: 1 black and 1 white, so, I cannot control wel May 17 13:46:15 This is the picture shows the error: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37016703@N05/7215407846/ May 17 13:47:39 i see a spelling error May 17 13:48:42 Spelling error ? Could you help me. May 17 13:49:08 I see four cursors. May 17 13:49:14 it's 'receive' instead of 'recieve' May 17 13:49:27 other than that, i would not know how to help you, sorry May 17 13:49:56 :D thanks you much, buddy. May 17 13:50:04 most welcome :) May 17 13:51:20 but besides that, could be either a wrong use of display libraries, or a coding error, or anything else. maybe it would be an idea to ask this in a channel dedicated to qt devvers May 17 13:52:56 fierman: thank for your suggests. I'll try it May 17 13:53:57 Hmm Yea May 17 13:57:33 av500,i transferred the uImage and got kernel running but could not figure out loading rootfs and reaching the prompt..https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/beagleboard/NvCHdKwZP6A this link discusses exactly that, tried but not booting up kernel also if both are copied..any suggestions for me? May 17 14:13:13 does anyone know why x-load package can't be included on my narcissus image for beaglebone?? I have a red s=cross indicating that the xload package hasn't be included... http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/ May 17 14:13:32 anyone know why it sems like ioremap of some gpmc memory seems to not work anymore (3.4-rc..) May 17 14:13:36 because x-load is deprecated? May 17 14:13:51 Crofton|work: isn't gpmc being rewritten again? May 17 14:14:04 narcissus provides with an old xload actually. May 17 14:15:03 fierman: so I have to compile uboot myself to get MLO? May 17 14:15:57 lpi: no, a new MLO is available at http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ May 17 14:16:32 the one there should work with narcissus builds (but i noticed myself not all narcissus builds work here) May 17 14:16:39 that also May 17 14:17:00 I'm hoping the old stuff is left alone, at least until I get things working again May 17 14:17:21 right now, I am just testing, to find things like this I need to be aware of May 17 14:21:28 fierman: doesn't work... Beagle isn't booting May 17 14:25:27 lpi: did you use the u-boot.img from that page as well ? May 17 14:28:06 fierman: will try with May 17 14:28:10 it May 17 14:32:22 fierman: do you know which ttyUSB I should use to see console output of the Beaglebone? I have ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB1. What is the difference between them? May 17 14:33:07 one is the jtag May 17 14:33:14 ks May 17 14:33:20 lpi: ttyUSB on client or server ? May 17 14:33:21 hi May 17 14:33:58 fierman: client if the client is the beagle, and server is host, then on the host May 17 14:34:19 is there any chat place for beaglebone? May 17 14:34:34 * lpi scratching his head May 17 14:34:38 paddu: you're already here May 17 14:34:52 thank you May 17 14:36:44 lpi: if you are using a terminalclient (your pc) to log into the terminalserver (beagle), and you are wondering which ttyUSB on your pc you have to use, then the answer is: does not matter. as long as you configure your client to use the correct tty May 17 14:37:28 lpi: are you using a bone? May 17 14:38:24 mru: yes May 17 14:38:40 open both ttys and see which one has output on it May 17 14:38:41 I think when I'm opening ttyUSB0, the beaglebone seems to reboot :s May 17 14:38:52 so try the other one May 17 14:38:58 is it normal? May 17 14:39:03 yes May 17 14:39:13 your pc kernel is probably slightly old May 17 14:39:43 3.2 and later create only one tty with the bone May 17 14:40:28 0 would map to jtag May 17 14:40:36 and cts to reset iirc May 17 14:40:46 thanks May 17 14:41:03 so if I use narcissus to build image May 17 14:41:22 I need to replace MLO, uboot and uImage by those on http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/? May 17 14:43:13 (you use the uImage provided by narcissus) May 17 14:46:06 lpi: if you use the 'sd card image', maybe May 17 14:46:13 lpi: for all other image types, no May 17 14:46:41 * mru uses a jpeg image May 17 14:47:17 koen: yes but fierman said that MLO is outdated on narcissus, so he advised me to use the one on angstrom-distrib website May 17 14:48:15 well, narcissus is not mine, but since I was struggling with exactly the same question yesterday, i found out by trial and error that the MLO from narcissus was old May 17 14:48:35 so i am _not_ an authority on this subject :) May 17 14:49:25 :D May 17 14:50:08 but/ i only tried the sd images. and i am quite certain the MLO provided with any kind of build on thos is outdated May 17 14:50:15 100% actually :) May 17 14:51:44 ans since uImage is the kernel, it depends on whether you want to replace it with the newer one on the angstrom website May 17 14:53:34 there are multiple versions of MLO on narcissus May 17 14:53:45 lol ok it's booting May 17 14:53:55 with all files from angstrom website May 17 14:54:01 even the kernel May 17 14:54:28 but my FS partition was in ext4 format, so it can't boot up. Just fixed by formatting the partition May 17 14:54:49 ubuntu and its ext4 partition -_-" May 17 14:59:08 * koen checks his beagle xm and beaglebone May 17 14:59:13 ext4 partitions May 17 14:59:28 which needs a patched uboot of course, like the recent angstrom ones May 17 15:00:38 koen: ok so if I format the SD with ext3, it will works, no? May 17 15:01:23 depends on the uboot version and env May 17 15:09:07 * bradfa hugs Beaglebone May 17 15:10:26 koen: so what do you advise? May 17 15:10:58 <_av500_> aholler: space before ! and ? is the norm in france, I tried to reeducate my coworkers and gave up May 17 15:11:04 lpi: do what you want, but make sure the uboot env matches your setup May 17 15:11:09 <_av500_> now I use it to detect french people on irc May 17 15:11:15 _av500_: but only a half space, no? May 17 15:11:18 <_av500_> yes May 17 15:11:27 <_av500_> hard to do on a typewriter May 17 15:11:47 what's ascii symbol for half a space? /me is not French May 17 15:11:59 <_av500_> bradfa: not ascii May 17 15:12:05 <_av500_> unicode yes May 17 15:12:10 ok, what's unicode symbol? May 17 15:12:18 <_av500_> not symbol, glyph May 17 15:12:24 <_av500_> google it :) May 17 15:12:40 <_av500_> er, codepoint May 17 15:12:47 <_av500_> its also non-breaking May 17 15:12:54 _av500_, too many different words that all mean not quite the same thing with silly unicode May 17 15:13:00 <_av500_> :) May 17 15:13:02 koen: want to use narcissus builder to make my fs, I don't bother if I need to use ext3 or ext4 SDcard partition May 17 15:13:16 lpi: so have it generate a tarball May 17 15:13:24 done May 17 15:13:35 but error when including xload, as said before May 17 15:13:45 so need to get it from an other location May 17 15:15:40 _av500_: but he is a tulip grower ;) May 17 15:18:01 <_av500_> ic May 17 15:18:16 koen: any idea? Maybe I need to compile uboot myself? May 17 15:18:23 to get MLO and uboot? May 17 15:18:58 I've already learned that the french are plenking with a reason ;) May 17 15:19:01 lpi: as multiple people have said already: http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ May 17 15:19:15 its beagleboard one May 17 15:19:18 ^^ May 17 15:19:26 still not too old to learn ;) May 17 15:19:52 <_av500_> with a "thin space" U+2009 May 17 15:21:06 lpi: you are using beagleboard, not beaglebone, right? May 17 15:21:20 since you keep saying 'x-load' May 17 15:21:27 beaglebone :) May 17 15:21:36 xload isnot for bone? May 17 15:21:40 x-load never existed for bone May 17 15:21:43 oO May 17 15:21:45 lpi: http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ May 17 15:22:02 MLO is in xload, isn't it? May 17 15:22:09 sorry May 17 15:22:09 no May 17 15:22:14 xload is in MLO, isn't it? May 17 15:22:21 u-boot builds MLO and u-boot.img May 17 15:22:36 ok May 17 15:22:54 anyway, the kernel boots properly, but can't mount the fs May 17 15:22:54 http://pastebin.com/U3HrQuMZ May 17 15:23:19 the fs partition is in ext3 format, do I need to format it into ext4? May 17 15:23:42 koen, what's the best way to track your github repo? you seem to like making new branches May 17 15:24:59 bradfa: the patches are getting rebased, so branches are the only way May 17 15:25:17 bradfa: I'd recommend to track https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel May 17 15:25:31 that's the source for what rcn-ee and I are doing May 17 15:26:00 as its easier to ask than read, why all the rebasing? May 17 15:26:34 because we need to insert things in the right place May 17 15:26:40 e.g. 3.2.x outdates May 17 15:26:51 or replace patches with better ones, like the irq patches May 17 15:27:05 and if PSP finally updates their public repo -> rebase May 17 15:27:19 ah, ok May 17 15:27:30 the PSP part was what I was missing in my thought train May 17 15:27:56 so when PSP updates, and does things correctly, you use their changes instead of anything you had that did similar? May 17 15:28:06 yes May 17 15:28:10 got it May 17 15:28:19 if only to make fun of them when it doesn't work May 17 15:28:46 which happens so often it's not actually funny anymore May 17 15:28:58 yes, I don't laugh much May 17 15:29:14 that psp tree is full of May 17 15:29:16 "fix foo" May 17 15:29:18 how can i build a 3.2.16 kernel? i have run bitbbake update and i've seen that download some file but when i run bitbake virtual/kernel is compile 3.0.x May 17 15:29:19 "really fix foo" May 17 15:29:26 "fixing foo broke bar, fix it" May 17 15:29:29 "really fix bar" May 17 15:29:47 the things I've seen going towards linux-omap seem to be doing things the right ways, but that's slow going May 17 15:29:53 yes May 17 15:29:53 and they missed 3.5 May 17 15:30:00 vaibhav and afzal are awesome May 17 15:30:05 <_av500_> bradfa: is that you with that blog? May 17 15:30:11 _av500_, which blog? May 17 15:30:18 but like I said in my comment to av500's post, they ignored mainline for 2 years May 17 15:30:24 yeah, I noticed May 17 15:30:26 (btw. the script in https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel fails here: http://dpaste.com/749293 ) May 17 15:30:50 _av500_, the one being critical of TI? That one? :) yes, that's probably me May 17 15:31:07 but I'm back on the TI train now May 17 15:31:18 went on dates this past week with Atmel and Freescale May 17 15:31:32 Beagle still my fav May 17 15:31:35 <_av500_> bradfa: you on g+? May 17 15:31:51 _av500_, yes, but not used very often May 17 15:32:00 _av500_, should I be checking it more often? May 17 15:32:47 <_av500_> bradfa: brad who? May 17 15:32:59 I'm "bradfa" on g+, "Andrew Bradford" May 17 15:33:01 Is anyone know how to avoid loading of g_mass_storage at beaglebone startup? Nothing in /etc/modules and /etc/modules.conf May 17 15:38:08 <_av500_> bradfa: which of the many? May 17 15:38:24 I managed to find much about changing modes but there seems to be no sysfs for omapfb say if i want to change the res /framebuffer : vid0=OFF:vid1=OFF:osd0=720x576x16,2500K to somethign else May 17 15:40:38 _av500_, https://plus.google.com/108506657199236487651 <- does that help? May 17 15:40:59 love that URL! May 17 15:41:43 on Facebook, I'm simply "/bradfa" but on g+ I'm "/108506657199236487651". Now why is google losing social again? /sarcasm May 17 15:44:09 01203010310010 is awsome May 17 15:44:12 geeeky May 17 15:44:25 and tbh it suits you just fine May 17 15:46:08 koen: are you know why all usb not work on 3.2.16 kernel on beagleboard xM? May 17 15:46:31 <_av500_> bradfa: ok, the silly glasses one :) May 17 15:46:40 it doesn;t ? May 17 15:46:47 i think i might just as well give up then May 17 15:46:51 _av500_, Yep, that's me :) May 17 15:47:01 * _av500_ goes to Biergarten May 17 15:47:07 who has facebook sahrse? May 17 15:47:11 *shares May 17 15:47:16 3.2.16 branch from koens repo refuses to build here May 17 15:47:21 the patch script bumps out May 17 15:47:33 etc May 17 15:47:57 koens repo is link to angstrom? or is other repos? May 17 15:48:02 can anyone please pretty please link towards a pre-compiled 3.2.* kernel that is compatible with beagleboard_xm ? May 17 15:48:09 stuk_gen: kernel May 17 15:48:42 fierman: so now kernel 3.2.16 don't work on beagleboard xm? May 17 15:48:53 stuk_gen: apparently not then May 17 15:49:20 fierman: ...so...why its a standar for angstrom if don't work?!? May 17 15:49:28 stuk_gen: don;t ask me May 17 15:49:37 please don't place rumors into the world May 17 15:49:44 i am not placing rumours May 17 15:50:12 i am just looking at yet another kernel build bumping out of me May 17 15:50:40 what i'm sais is i have 3.0.28 image...i need a package for multitouch..so i simply do 'opkg install ...' and tadan...this install lastest package and upgrade kernel to 3.2.16...and no works :) May 17 15:51:54 yeah, well. that's sort of expected, isn;t it May 17 15:52:39 what i don't understand is why upgrade the kernel when install the package...mistery May 17 15:53:24 that method would even fail on end-user linux distros May 17 15:53:54 fierman: what method? opkg? May 17 16:04:39 * mdp watches bradfa preach to the choir on g+ ;) May 17 16:05:32 :) May 17 16:05:39 I like preaching! May 17 16:06:16 I figure, maybe if a TI customer yells loud enough, someone will hear May 17 16:06:49 * bradfa goes to lunch May 17 16:07:33 bradfa, believe or not, it already happened on some other fronts May 17 16:08:43 bradfa, if you can eliminate e2e then you would be a hero to many. May 17 16:08:55 yes May 17 16:08:59 death to e2e May 17 16:10:23 submit your patches to e2e cult, koen May 17 16:11:33 I posted to e2e a while ago May 17 16:11:43 kridner said that was the only way to get a result May 17 16:11:48 complete fail May 17 16:12:31 no response? May 17 16:12:38 exactly May 17 16:12:44 oh, bummer May 17 16:12:53 I don't follow those..for obvious reasons May 17 16:15:34 stuk_gen: 3.2.x works fine with usb on the c5 and xM over here May 17 16:49:34 koen: mdp: wrong channel? :) May 17 17:06:34 mranostay, not at all :) May 17 17:28:54 koen: i must apoligize for my statements earlier. did not see the work you did yesterday on narcissus. nice one there :) May 17 17:35:03 koen: yea nice one, now i have to add panda May 17 17:35:27 koen: i see you added fbida May 17 17:36:01 koen: i need to check and see if the edid tools,evtest and fb-test get into there May 17 17:58:12 prpplague, you will add panda to narcissus? May 17 17:58:42 Crofton|work: it's on my todo list, but i don;t know how long it will be before i get there May 17 17:58:46 prpplague: I have a panda project coming up soon, what's the preferred kernel nowadays (don't say 'mainline') May 17 17:59:05 prpplague, are you on the angstrom list May 17 17:59:13 actually, there may be two lists :) May 17 17:59:48 koen: i recomend the linaro kernels May 17 17:59:55 Crofton|work: no May 17 18:00:00 what is in meta-ti? May 17 18:00:14 do you mind if I forward you copies of panda emails? May 17 18:00:17 prpplague: thanks! May 17 18:00:29 what is in meta-ti does boot May 17 18:00:43 basically, I am trying to spread the support load out May 17 18:00:44 Crofton|work: it's ubuntu May 17 18:00:46 * mru just thought of a great name for the next ubuntu: rheumatic rhinoceros May 17 18:01:02 mru: I'd go for 'randy' May 17 18:01:07 Crofton|work: ok send away May 17 18:01:16 I do not think there are many May 17 18:01:20 koen: that would have to be a racoon though May 17 18:01:20 koen: *cough* evtest and fb-test? May 17 18:01:25 just figured I would ask firt May 17 18:01:37 prpplague: evtest is sinple, fbtest would need a recipe first May 17 18:02:23 koen: i guess evtest is already has a receipe? May 17 18:02:36 it does May 17 18:02:52 Crofton|work: git://dev.omapzoom.org/pub/scm/integration/kernel-ubuntu.git;protocol=git;branch=ti-ubuntu-3.1-1282 May 17 18:07:17 koen: what about the read-edid and parse-edid stuff? May 17 19:27:35 prpplague: one of them works, the other needs an x86 only syscall May 17 19:31:31 <_av500_> bradfa: heh, yelling a TI is my job description May 17 19:32:57 <_av500_> atm, our FAEs change every 6 months ...and need rehab May 17 19:39:14 koen: oh thats the old versions that are not using the i2c subsystem May 17 19:39:21 koen: i'll have to look into that May 17 21:33:18 Oh good it compiled correctly May 17 21:38:06 after I run "bitbake virtual/kernel -c deploy" any changes I make to the kernel seem to compile (at least 1 task is rerun) but when I try and deploy the changes it doesn't run any tasks and deploys the same image as the first time May 17 21:38:47 the only way I can get it to incorporate my changes is ti delete the whole directory structure and start over with OE May 17 21:39:02 koen: sent May 17 21:42:02 could this have somethign to do with commenting out rm_work in the config file May 17 21:46:26 is there a way to force bitbake to redeploy, -f doens't seem to do anything its still not running any tasks May 17 21:57:33 Hmmm May 18 00:26:43 how many clockspeeds does the beaglebone support on AC power? I've seen 718MHz and 274MHz, there's a ~500MHz setting on AC, will I see this as well? May 18 00:27:21 trelane`: er you mean DCright? May 18 00:27:57 500mhz limit if powered only by USB May 18 00:28:52 DC May 18 00:29:31 Isn't that only on some distros? May 18 00:29:42 no, that's a hardware constraint May 18 00:29:49 500mA isn't enough for full speed May 18 00:30:21 Huh I thought on the readme page on beagleboard.org said it was software May 18 00:30:53 software controls the speed, yes May 18 00:42:13 mru: i thought it was magic May 18 00:42:45 implying software is not magic? May 18 00:46:43 right but uboot throws the following: No AC power, disabling frequency switch May 18 00:47:00 my question is without that power switch am I going to see that 500MHz setting? May 18 00:48:00 you can run at 500MHz with any power source May 18 00:48:18 well, any 500mA source May 18 00:49:14 uboot != kernel May 18 00:49:19 well mostly May 18 01:00:45 which gpio pin would be GPIO145 on the bone May 18 01:01:12 rtfm? May 18 01:01:39 and there isn't a 145 gpio lines on the bone May 18 01:01:48 That does not sound like a valid GPIO pin label. May 18 01:02:14 Since chip 1 does not have 45 pins, and I do not think there is a chip 14. May 18 01:02:42 hmm May 18 01:02:54 I'm trying to get a buzzer working. May 18 01:03:02 Seems it is more difficult that on the arduino lol May 18 01:03:18 Well, yes. May 18 01:03:24 It is a more complex device. May 18 01:16:12 prp! May 18 01:25:55 mranostay: have you made your oreily donation yet? May 18 01:27:08 ds2: eh? May 18 01:27:15 for the wknd May 18 01:31:04 yeah if call it a donation i guess **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 18 02:59:58 2012