**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 01 02:59:58 2012 Jun 01 03:26:10 Solved my power issue Russ Jun 01 03:38:24 hehe KeatonT not sure if Russ has made it home yet Jun 01 03:38:43 :P Jun 01 03:40:41 prpplague: that dallas weather messed up both Tartarus and Russ this trip :) Jun 01 03:42:15 mdp: hehe Jun 01 04:00:57 I've been here Jun 01 04:01:04 KeatonT, was it the supply? Jun 01 04:12:28 Russ: flight was ok then? Jun 01 04:12:57 hi prpplague Jun 01 04:13:04 greetings Jun 01 04:14:07 yup Jun 01 04:15:15 Russ: dandy! Jun 01 04:15:27 Russ: was in HK? Jun 01 04:15:39 Russ: shame you guys aren't going to be around next month, my boss lady and the kids will be out of town Jun 01 04:16:10 mranostay: dfw Jun 01 04:16:19 ah that secret meeting :P Jun 01 04:19:36 hong kong? Jun 01 04:19:46 yeah Jun 01 04:19:51 Linaro Connect Jun 01 04:19:55 prpplague, who knows Jun 01 04:20:09 I'll see if I can make the next one Jun 01 04:20:20 :) Jun 01 04:23:37 _av500_: third time this week there has been a crazy panicked email thread of someone who has just discovered eagleboard.org Jun 01 04:25:30 heh Jun 01 04:26:03 sorry I missed happy hour Jun 01 04:26:29 what? there was a happy hour get together and i wasn't invited? Jun 01 04:26:38 * prpplague is so hurt Jun 01 04:26:41 prpplague, mdp didn't tell you? Jun 01 04:26:41 hehe Jun 01 04:26:44 jeez Jun 01 04:27:01 i had to leave early to get to fedex Jun 01 04:27:13 probably missed them Jun 01 04:27:17 prpplague: i can smack mdp if you want :) Jun 01 04:27:33 it will have to wait 6 months till the next time in Ohio :) Jun 01 04:27:47 mranostay: Russ and i have a electric dog collar we plan to use on him Jun 01 04:29:01 Russ: i have come to the conclusion that the reason i do kernel dev, is because i an terrible at GUI dev Jun 01 04:29:16 * prpplague has made one ugly gtk app Jun 01 04:29:28 s/ugly/ Jun 01 04:29:50 you have screenshots? Jun 01 04:30:04 hehe Jun 01 04:31:52 Russ: http://imagebin.org/214685 Jun 01 04:33:52 i've seen worsse Jun 01 04:33:55 *worse even Jun 01 04:34:16 hehe Jun 01 04:35:00 that doesn't take too much to adjust Jun 01 04:35:08 it's just a test run, but it reminds me that you really need to have some sort of artistic qualities for a good gui Jun 01 04:36:38 it will eventuall be a more robust version of this web app - http://www.corrosionsource.com/Corrosion-Rate-Calculator Jun 01 04:36:43 I think it just takes experience Jun 01 04:39:01 Russ: yea i hear that is what this guys father kept telling him as well - http://tinyurl.com/7rlw95h Jun 01 04:44:23 Russ no it was not the supply. Jun 01 04:44:36 Ended up being interference from a GPIO input. Jun 01 04:44:54 Added a low pass filter and it is good to go. Jun 01 04:56:05 interesting Jun 01 04:56:07 very interesting Jun 01 04:56:27 prpplague, sigh...always with the crazy people Jun 01 04:56:44 each state has its own unique breed Jun 01 04:57:00 indeed i am very sure that is what people say about me when i am not logged into irc, hehe Jun 01 04:57:16 maybe we need to designate an official idiot for each state Jun 01 04:57:37 *cough* Jun 01 04:57:40 Georgia's official state idiot, snake-handling preachers Jun 01 04:58:04 Russ: i'm pretty sure we designated ours during the recent campainging Jun 01 04:58:34 I tried not to pay attention while I was there Jun 01 04:58:47 heh Jun 01 04:59:01 Russ: i thought that was WV Jun 01 05:00:19 all I know is that florida will have a lot of trouble narrowing down one single group of idiots Jun 01 05:03:11 Russ: idiot off? Jun 01 05:03:20 10000 way tie Jun 01 05:06:02 sounds like a great new reality tv show Jun 01 05:09:01 * mranostay is so glad he doesn't live that part of country anymore Jun 01 05:11:24 Russ: but wouldn't the smartest idiot survive in that? Jun 01 05:12:14 no, the show would be a race to the bottom Jun 01 05:15:10 <_av500_> gm Jun 01 05:15:49 gm troublemaker Jun 01 05:17:41 gm _av500_ Jun 01 05:18:42 crap it's _av500_ Jun 01 05:22:07 <_av500_> inb4 death ray Jun 01 05:26:35 totally not cool dude Jun 01 05:35:14 you guys wanna see something cool I've been working on all day? Jun 01 05:35:15 http://unicron.biz/piano/ Jun 01 05:49:25 don't work in Safari Jun 01 05:56:16 <_av500_> use a real browser Jun 01 05:56:42 thealphanerd Jun 01 05:56:43 I broke it. Jun 01 05:56:49 :P Jun 01 05:56:55 I guess that is what I do. Jun 01 05:57:05 I am a quality assurance engineer. Jun 01 05:57:17 it is broken Jun 01 05:57:21 I'm working on that right now Jun 01 05:57:24 using hover Jun 01 05:57:31 so if you move across it will play different notes Jun 01 05:57:37 dragging that is Jun 01 05:57:57 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7323462/Screen%20Shot%202012-06-01%20at%2012.57.22%20AM.png Jun 01 05:58:00 :P Jun 01 06:01:52 still looks good :D Jun 01 06:03:48 lol Jun 01 06:44:54 heh, nice maintenance page http://redfin.com/home Jun 01 07:00:54 prpplague: forward me some Jun 01 07:23:34 http://www.sparkfun.com/products/11012 Jun 01 08:12:53 * stuk_gen don't understand why one day the building of angstrom works and the day after...don't work Jun 01 08:13:14 someone have a problem when the process build webkit? Jun 01 08:22:19 koen: maybe you forgot the two previous klibc patches? Jun 01 08:22:52 (28903, 28905) Jun 01 08:45:00 why leopardboard is on beagleboard.org ? http://beagleboard.org/leopard Jun 01 08:45:45 why should it not? Jun 01 08:46:09 it only links to leopard website and ML Jun 01 08:46:44 they even have a forum Jun 01 09:55:06 hi guys.. i built my own angstrom console image and booted it succsessfully Jun 01 09:55:20 but how do i install the generated modules now? Jun 01 09:56:09 arent they part of it? Jun 01 09:58:05 well actually angstom console doesnt have even a eth0 Jun 01 09:58:38 so in the built-path where the angstrom console image rootfs .tar.bz2 is hosted Jun 01 09:58:51 there is a file named modules****.tgz Jun 01 09:59:39 hi there! Jun 01 10:00:35 In OE: What should I do to rebuild and package all kernel-modules? Jun 01 10:02:40 m0erk: and the modules are not in /lib/modules? Jun 01 10:05:13 sp00k: git clone; make uImage modules modules_install Jun 01 10:06:30 av500: there are modules in /lib/modules but iam still wondering why there is noch /dev/eth0 ? Jun 01 10:07:03 is it not usb0? Jun 01 10:07:17 no Jun 01 10:07:24 in ubuntu its eth0 (beagle-xm) Jun 01 10:07:33 i thought in angstrom it would be the same Jun 01 10:07:45 lsusb says what? Jun 01 10:08:05 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:9514 Standard Microsystems Corp. Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:ec00 Standard Microsystems Corp. Bus 001 Device 004: ID 062a:0201 Creative Labs Defender Office Keyboard (K7310) S Zodiak KM-9010 Bus 001 Device 005: ID 15d9:0a4d Unknown Jun 01 10:08:23 i guess unknown... Jun 01 10:08:58 its a freshly built console-image with MLO and u-boot taken from that build to boot Jun 01 10:09:47 so, you have the SMSC Jun 01 10:09:52 thus you should have ehternet Jun 01 10:09:59 I guess the driver is not loaded Jun 01 10:10:06 lol yes Jun 01 10:10:13 aholler: Is there a way to do it using bitbake? Jun 01 10:10:29 sp00k: google "angstrom kernel workflow" Jun 01 10:10:50 av500: thx i think ive got it... but still got no dhcp discover.. Jun 01 10:11:07 av500: I guess you reference to http://www.slimlogic.co.uk/2011/05/openembeddedangstrom-kernel-workflow/ Jun 01 10:11:19 ./etc/init.d/networking start is always a good idea :P Jun 01 10:11:21 but this doesn't work out for kernel modules Jun 01 10:13:58 If I "bitbake -c compile_kernelmodules -f virtual/kernel" where will the kernel-modules placed? Jun 01 10:14:43 I don't understand why people insist on using bitbake ;) Jun 01 10:14:49 (I want to end with a directory/tar with an updated /lib/modules for my actual mainline kernel) Jun 01 10:19:16 sp00k: where they will be placed, I dont know Jun 01 10:19:25 but find *.ko will tell you Jun 01 10:19:49 aholler, *I* dont't understand why people dont just use binary distros :) Jun 01 10:20:08 I dont understand why people dont just use Windows Jun 01 10:20:39 av500, you're kidding, aren't you ? Jun 01 10:21:01 never, especially on fridays Jun 01 10:21:05 hah, that's nothing. when I was a kid we didn't understand anything Jun 01 10:21:31 tasslehoff: when I was a kid we was beaten until we understood Jun 01 10:21:40 I'm still a kid Jun 01 10:21:49 after walking to school 30 miles through the snow Jun 01 10:23:17 av500: are you also rerunning "Four Yorkshiremen" in your head? :) Jun 01 10:23:24 tasslehoff: yeah Jun 01 12:30:49 Friday? Jun 01 12:33:09 can someone give me a little hint... Jun 01 12:33:22 i try to make a sd card from a .img Jun 01 12:33:39 how do i manage this? Jun 01 12:36:16 dd Jun 01 12:41:08 av500: ok i found something.. but is this option nessasary? bs=8225280 Jun 01 12:43:29 or just the simple if/of and thats it=? Jun 01 12:48:57 i guess its jst to speed the hole thing up.. Jun 01 12:53:36 bs=4M Jun 01 12:59:22 is this necessary? Jun 01 12:59:53 bs=4M Jun 01 12:59:55 no Jun 01 12:59:59 [14:48:57] i guess its jst to speed the hole thing up.. Jun 01 13:00:03 kk Jun 01 13:00:04 makes a faster hole Jun 01 13:00:12 :D Jun 01 13:00:17 k, thx! Jun 01 13:01:00 iam still not able to compile c-code for the damned DSP Jun 01 13:09:12 C6Run is like quantum physics for me... ^^ Jun 01 13:12:50 after some updates my eth0 isn't coming up again after a reboot again, I tried reinstalling dbus, users are correct again, but still no eth0 after a reboot, someone any ideas? Jun 01 13:13:26 last time I fixed it by using a different release, but i rather not reinstall everything again this time Jun 01 13:32:53 jelmer_: did u try /etc/init.d/networking restart ? Jun 01 13:38:26 what does it say, if you are longer in the university than your prof..? Jun 01 13:38:43 turn off the **** and go home... ^^ Jun 01 13:39:01 I tought you meant years spent there.... Jun 01 13:39:14 :D Jun 01 13:39:32 actually in this case its also true Jun 01 13:40:23 ok.. the last thing is testing the sd card made from .img file.. Jun 01 13:40:50 rofl Jun 01 13:41:14 is this a normal serial output from such a boot sequence? Jun 01 13:41:16 0ÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀ Jun 01 13:41:32 at least it's not chinese... Jun 01 13:41:40 rofl Jun 01 13:41:44 true Jun 01 13:42:05 i gues something went wrong... doesnt matter i will look after this on monday :P Jun 01 13:42:26 see u guys Jun 01 13:43:22 bye Jun 01 13:46:48 mdp: what woke you? Jun 01 13:47:29 the serial sequence...that was exciting Jun 01 13:56:03 hi Jun 01 13:58:21 <_sundar_> hi Jun 01 14:09:28 @m0erk that indeed starts the networking, but it doesn't fix my problem, the networking doesn't come up at boot Jun 01 14:12:29 has anyone used CCSv5 to boot the Bone without having an SD card with images installed? Jun 01 14:12:40 my goal is to debug u-boot Jun 01 14:17:48 use jtag Jun 01 14:18:38 lost my internet connection...so if anyone answered my question about CCSv5/U=Boot then I missed it Jun 01 14:19:15 g Jun 01 14:20:49 got booted again....sorry if i missed any anwers Jun 01 14:22:27 test Jun 01 14:22:30 toast Jun 01 14:23:10 sorry av500...having corp network problems...not sure if i was still on...usually see more activity Jun 01 14:23:21 its a slow day Jun 01 14:23:30 friday Jun 01 14:27:03 no one has a clue about eth0 not coming up after boot? it seems lots of people had the problem before but I can't find a real solution except for using a different image.. Jun 01 14:27:41 you should be more descriptive. ip link doesn't the if? Jun 01 14:28:23 ++show Jun 01 14:32:33 there seems to be nothing wrong with the if itself, i can manually start it with ifup Jun 01 14:33:32 I'm just not sure where to start looking, where does it get started normally? Jun 01 14:36:23 I assume connman. Jun 01 14:40:04 Hmm, I could use mailing list reminders to measure earth rotation… Jun 01 14:44:19 koen: http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2479555 Jun 01 14:44:27 can haz that on beagle phorum too? Jun 01 14:47:12 only when you can know all the names for muxes by memory Jun 01 14:51:57 And I assume you want those too: http://support.google.com/groups/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1649693&topic=2459488&ctx=topic Jun 01 14:52:49 e.g. bones as badges Jun 01 14:54:18 btw. the r0ket is now available at pollin ;) Jun 01 14:54:49 what is it? Jun 01 14:55:21 http://r0ket.badge.events.ccc.de Jun 01 14:56:49 no HDMI, costs more than an R-PI. lame Jun 01 15:00:45 but has a lcd, joystick and radio Jun 01 15:22:08 has anyone used CCSv5 to load U-Boot and boot the bone w/o having the SD card installed? Jun 01 15:23:59 koen? u here? Jun 01 15:25:00 he's on a date Jun 01 15:26:05 @5:30pm on a Friday night? Jun 01 15:28:26 small world Jun 01 15:31:24 gee, a coworker just almost killed himself with a hex-copter Jun 01 15:31:34 there is blood... Jun 01 15:31:42 seriously? Jun 01 15:32:38 yes Jun 01 15:33:02 3 cuts in the face Jun 01 15:33:38 my quad tried that once to me, after that i bolted it to the table during testing.. Jun 01 15:35:12 seems like nothing in init.d is getting started for some reason.. i'll investigate it further tomorrow, thanks for the help aholler Jun 01 15:40:42 av500: yikes Jun 01 15:45:52 xxiao: you have a customer in #pandaboard Jun 01 15:57:15 koen: ping Jun 01 15:58:19 prpplague: he is on a date Jun 01 15:58:27 av500: with a bottle? Jun 01 15:58:43 with a js library in fact Jun 01 15:59:32 av500: oh there's a loose couple >< Jun 01 15:59:50 its a match made in heaven Jun 01 15:59:54 or rather in the cloud Jun 01 16:01:45 av500: bet it's a looker when it's minified. Jun 01 16:01:52 av500: the cloud one can't be beat :P Jun 01 16:37:12 prpplague: pong Jun 01 19:38:04 http://www.flickr.com/photos/csete/7316055232/ Jun 01 19:38:37 howdy, quick question regarding 28 pin expansion port on bb-xM Jun 01 19:39:06 are the individual i/o pins changeable? Jun 01 19:39:21 so if I want to keep 22, and 23 as i2c-2 Jun 01 19:39:37 but use a bunch of others as gpio i can? Jun 01 19:39:39 <_av500_> yes Jun 01 19:39:48 <_av500_> pinmux is per pin Jun 01 19:39:55 awesome... Jun 01 19:40:04 i thought so, but was not 100% sure Jun 01 19:40:15 are only three pins pwm? Jun 01 19:40:23 i am reading through the documentation first time through Jun 01 19:40:37 and it goes through the different mux groupings Jun 01 19:41:26 and there is a pwm grouping on table 23 Jun 01 19:41:35 in the document Jun 01 19:41:44 and it appears there are only 3 pwm pins? Jun 01 19:41:55 are these hardware pwm? Jun 01 19:42:42 just wondering if I should enlist the the i2c expansion chip with 16 pwm's on it or if it's easier to use the built in ones? ( are there more than 3?) Jun 01 19:42:59 waltermixxx: if you are wanting to use the pwm channels for something that is intensive such as controlling servos, then those are no good choices to use. using the i2c expansion is a much better choice Jun 01 19:43:33 waltermixxx: the pwm's on the omap are designed primarily to control backlight for a display, some led intensities, and items such as haptics Jun 01 19:43:52 waltermixxx: not geared towards heavy pwm operations Jun 01 19:43:56 i suspect that is why there are so few :) Jun 01 19:44:02 okie done good call :) Jun 01 19:44:18 okie doke... (not okie done, although that kinda works too) Jun 01 19:44:29 spell check kicked in... Jun 01 19:46:15 adafruit has an i2c 16channel pwm expansion break out for about 14 bucks Jun 01 19:46:30 i will have to check out the tutorial and see what's up with it... :) Jun 01 19:47:11 say, how "easy" is it migrate beagle bone projects to beagle board xM once you have the gpio's assigned correctly? Jun 01 19:47:38 i bought the beagle board instead of the beagle bone... but seem to see lots of projects for the beagle bone... Jun 01 19:48:05 I am definitely a hardware nut, but could not resist the extra ram and built in ports of the beagle board... :) Jun 01 19:48:56 i should be getting my board on monday... Jun 01 19:49:08 here's hoping :) Jun 01 19:49:37 anyone working on any interesting projects? Jun 01 19:50:12 i know i want what ever i build to have a web interface controlling the gpio pins directly :) Jun 01 19:50:41 I'm thinking of a Pet Entertainment centre for my dog.... Jun 01 19:50:52 ( she's not a beagle... but she is a dog...) Jun 01 19:52:14 something that whistles to get her attention, drops a treat to maintain the attention, and then launches her fav, ball.... with built in basket she must return the ball to.... all sensed by the beagle board, and a reward is given once she returns the ball... perhaps with a cam attached :) Jun 01 19:53:06 Crofton|work: Ok, looks good plugged in. BUT! does it work ? ;) Jun 01 19:57:35 dunno Jun 01 19:59:19 Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 kernel 3.2 on BeagleBoard B4. I've both the BB and USB hub connected to 5V supply. lsusb, ifconfig outputs as shown here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1018497/ - How can I get ethernet working? Jun 01 20:02:28 I've a usb hub connected to the OTG port. A usb-ethernet adapter is connected to the hub. And a RJ45 cable from one of the four ports of the router is connected to it. Second port of the same router is connected to the host system Jun 01 20:06:41 orated_: dmesg is much more interesting, check if musb is in host-modus. if not try to load g_zero Jun 01 20:07:22 does anyone know if its possible to take a bootscript that's already been through mkimage, and to undo it Jun 01 20:07:36 so I can edit it? Jun 01 20:07:47 normally I always have the original ascii version Jun 01 20:08:12 aholler: Um, could you guide me on how can I check if musb is in host-modus? Jun 01 20:09:11 find /sys -name '*musb*' Jun 01 20:10:12 there is a file named mode there Jun 01 20:10:33 nevermind, I used DD to get what I needed Jun 01 20:11:29 aholler: Thanks, the command returned - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1018522/ Jun 01 20:12:55 mode file, no Jun 01 20:14:10 Trying to load g_zero then Jun 01 20:14:19 look at the found directories Jun 01 20:14:24 ah Jun 01 20:14:30 sure, just a moment Jun 01 20:15:01 Crofton|work: I see the usb is recognized. Next ya gotta write sdr apps :) Jun 01 20:16:42 aholler: Will locate mode work? Jun 01 20:17:14 ah, command not found :/ Jun 01 20:23:04 aholler: I'm not able to find it properly, is there a better alternative? Jun 01 20:25:01 ls Jun 01 20:25:18 whats so hard to look at those found directories? Jun 01 20:25:24 Yes. have been searching with that Jun 01 20:26:10 I'm getting /�������� like garbage at certain interval Jun 01 20:26:15 cat /sys/devices/platform/omap/musb-omap2430/musb-hdrc/mode Jun 01 20:27:55 Restarting BB, I guess power issues causing garbage at the moment Jun 01 20:33:27 Hi Everybody! Iam on ubuntu for BB, and I don't know is it possible to run i2cget without sudo ? Jun 01 20:34:22 So questiojn is if also ordinary users (like ubuntu) can execute this? why is superuser needed actually? Jun 01 20:36:51 you could reprogram hardware Jun 01 20:37:32 if a user needs it, and you are sure they can't do damage, change the permissions on the device file Jun 01 20:38:13 ah ok... So I wanna actually do it from within java program and sudo i2cget keeps asking for password - can I disable this somhow or pass passwd from within command line for i2cget ? Jun 01 20:38:28 aholler: Output of cat /sys/devices/platform/omap/musb-omap2430/musb-hdrc/mode - b_peripheral Jun 01 20:38:44 zhivko, change the permissions on the dev file Jun 01 20:38:49 oh, so you've found a file named mode Jun 01 20:39:11 Russ: thanks will trythat. Jun 01 20:39:45 orated_: modprobe g_zero Jun 01 20:40:07 aholler: Sorry, what did I miss above? Jun 01 20:40:33 I don't know what you are doing Jun 01 20:41:19 And, what does b_peripheral impli... oh I'm trying to get ethernet working with the help of usb-ethernet adapter as I asked initially Jun 01 20:41:48 I've not done this before, so really not sure how to proceed Jun 01 20:41:55 it means musb is not in host mode Jun 01 20:42:10 so do 'modprobe g_zero' Jun 01 20:42:21 FATAL: Module g_zero not found. Jun 01 20:43:05 ask in #ubuntu-arm Jun 01 20:43:52 Sure, I also have Angstrom image. Please hold on, let me restart with Angstrom and try on that Jun 01 20:44:45 I know angstrom as good as you, so I can't help further Jun 01 20:45:23 anyway, I would suggest not to try to use msub Jun 01 20:45:53 you won't get happy Jun 01 20:47:28 Uhm, I haven't run Angstrom either on BB before. I read that Angstrom is better for beginners to start on BB, so thought of restarting with it Jun 01 20:48:03 Thanks for your time and help Jun 01 20:49:44 I got the feeling that angstrom was a pain in the ass Jun 01 20:51:06 ah, i think i somehow broke my beaglebone. When connecting external power nothing happens. USB power supply still works. Any idea whats broken? Jun 01 20:51:48 KeatonT: what are u using now? Jun 01 20:52:02 Debian Jun 01 20:53:22 KeatonT: Well i never got used to open embedded. All these layers and stuff makes a steep learning curve... Jun 01 20:57:46 <_av500_> zhivko: check the mailing list for rxtx Jun 01 20:57:55 <_av500_> there were some posts today Jun 01 20:59:05 av500: I saw it yes Jun 01 20:59:18 av500: but i2c sample is not there :) Jun 01 21:51:14 av500: "sudo chown -R tomcat6:tomcat6 /dev/i2c-3" made it :) thanks Jun 01 22:00:11 Anyone know why none of my demos work on angstrom for the beaglebone LCD? they load and instantly close them selves with no errormessages like i didn't even open the demos.... Jun 01 22:00:33 Is there a package i should download/update? Jun 01 22:14:26 using kernel-commandline console=ttyS0,115200 will not obey, maybe systemd is supressing it ? Jun 01 22:30:26 ttyS0 only works for kernels < 2.6.35 Jun 01 22:31:53 if your problem is missing output Jun 01 22:35:08 aholler, i used kernel 3.4 on an old image with SysV and it worked while the same kernel on a new image with systemd won't . so i may assume some userland . what is the "new" name then ? Jun 01 22:35:30 ttyO2 Jun 01 22:36:06 why ? Jun 01 22:38:37 ask btw. it never was ttyS0, it was ttyS2 before Jun 01 22:38:54 s/ask// Jun 01 22:40:59 aholler, i should have mentioned this is no beagle but the closest channel to ask ;) i'm on a arm based PDA where #1 and #2 are FIR and BT Jun 01 22:42:31 try #42 Jun 01 22:54:27 FIR? Jun 02 00:10:58 hi Jun 02 01:30:39 wb jkridner_ Jun 02 01:30:53 thanks Jun 02 01:30:55 happy to be home Jun 02 01:32:26 jkridner_: were you at LC? Jun 02 01:32:37 nope, just TI Dallas. Jun 02 01:33:29 i thought you lived in the Dallas area Jun 02 01:34:14 nope Jun 02 01:34:24 back after a while. need to go run an errand. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 02 02:59:58 2012