**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 02 02:59:58 2012
Jun 02 06:47:27 <Borillion> guys how do I use menuconfig and get all the reconfigured settings?
Jun 02 06:50:01 <Borillion> I mean preconfigured*
Jun 02 07:52:06 <Guest51553> hello, what GUI you guys use with debian on Beagleboard Xm ?
Jun 02 07:54:39 <Guest51553> any1 alive ?
Jun 02 08:10:38 <Guest51553> how is KDE running on beagle xm ?
Jun 02 08:11:28 <blucalvin> Hi guys, I'm trying to enable a certain gadget driver f_audio.c under /lib/modules/3.0.29+/kernel/drivers/usb/gadget/ . Any idea what the corresponding menuconfig entry for that is?
Jun 02 08:13:25 <blucalvin> Trying to experiment on using the otg port of the xm to connect it to my host (laptop)
Jun 02 08:40:14 <blucalvin> Hi guys, I'm trying to enable a certain gadget driver f_audio.c under /lib/modules/3.0.29+/kernel/drivers/usb/gadget/ . Any idea what the corresponding menuconfig entry for that is?
Jun 02 08:41:17 <lautriv> blucalvin, if there is one, it should be device-drivers->usb->usb-gadgets->somewhere here
Jun 02 08:51:28 <blucalvin> Hey thanks! I found an option "audio_gadget" in there. Let me see if enabling it will do the trick.
Jun 02 09:05:43 <Guest51553> dear all, what is the fastest GUI for beagle_xm ?
Jun 02 09:09:47 <aholler> mc
Jun 02 09:11:02 <Guest51553> MC ?
Jun 02 09:11:34 <aholler> midnight commander
Jun 02 09:14:01 <Guest51553> it looks ugly :P
Jun 02 09:14:24 <aholler> then rephrase your question
Jun 02 09:16:41 <Guest51553> yes, i wanted to know that you answered (thank you). Moreover, i am interested in what GUI are you folks using? I am looking for somethink to be be using with touchscreen
Jun 02 09:21:29 <aholler> with what applications? If you write them yourself I would suggest qt.
Jun 02 09:22:19 <Guest51553> i am writing some java applications. qt is still the best answer ?
Jun 02 09:22:40 <aholler> java and gui?
Jun 02 09:23:26 <Guest51553> it is prefferable for both java and gui to run smooth :)
Jun 02 09:24:24 <aholler> java has it's own gui-stuff, so you just need a x-server and there aren't many of them out in the wild
Jun 02 09:26:06 <Guest51553> java will run with JDK and JVM installed. However, i wanted to use it in combination with some smooth gui, and easy to use with touchscreen
Jun 02 09:27:35 <aholler> there isn't something which makes your app magically smooth and usable by a touchscreen
Jun 02 09:30:34 <Guest51553> ok, maybe there is misunderstanding. I am looking for some linux GUI which is running smooth and it is  easy to use in combination with touchscreen. Moreover, i have some java apps that will run under same OS and that GUI i installed
Jun 02 09:31:36 <Guest51553> and there is a question, what is the best thing to use
Jun 02 09:32:04 <aholler> android
Jun 02 09:32:49 <Guest51553> yes, i was just looking for it :)
Jun 02 09:33:38 <Guest51553> which disto are you using?
Jun 02 09:33:48 <aholler> kde has something usable by touchscreens too, but I don't know the state of it
Jun 02 09:34:10 <Guest51553> i heard KDE is slow on beagle?
Jun 02 09:34:51 <Guest51553> memory problem...
Jun 02 09:36:58 <aholler> kde doesn't need more memory than gnome
Jun 02 09:37:16 <Guest51553> really...
Jun 02 09:38:13 <aholler> no, just virtual
Jun 02 09:38:38 <Guest51553> did you try running it ?
Jun 02 09:38:49 <aholler> yes
Jun 02 09:40:13 <Guest51553> ok thanks for info, i will try it when i come home :)
Jun 02 09:40:27 <aholler> anyway, there isn't some sw which makes your hw faster or gives you more memory. go panda or something similiar if a beagle isn't fast enough for you
Jun 02 09:44:27 <Guest51553> of course, but things can be good or less good on different OS's or VM's, ...
Jun 02 09:45:08 <Guest51553> btw, under debian, what to apt-get to get working minimal KDE GUI
Jun 02 09:48:26 <lautriv> Guest51553, KDE is never minimal ...... do you target a beagle ?
Jun 02 09:48:58 <Guest51553> yes
Jun 02 09:49:26 <lautriv> Guest51553, seriously, you should consider XFCE
Jun 02 09:49:53 <lautriv> can anyone please paste his  serial-getty@.service from systemd ?
Jun 02 09:49:53 <Guest51553> ok, what is it's atp-get minimal workin ?
Jun 02 09:50:39 <lautriv> Guest51553, i assume xfce-core and lightdm may be sufficient, if not deps will pull it.
Jun 02 10:35:20 <Guest51553> thanks guys, see you
Jun 02 11:29:28 <guyzmo> hi
Jun 02 11:30:31 <guyzmo> on the beaglebone, I'm trying to access a device on /dev/i2c-3 which appears in i2cdetect, but fails when I do i2cget (vith read failed) and then disappears from i2cdetect until I reset it
Jun 02 11:30:51 <guyzmo> the device is a SL030 rfid reader from StrongLink, which works *very well* using an arduino
Jun 02 11:30:53 <guyzmo> as master
Jun 02 11:56:15 <aholler> you use a level shifter, do you?
Jun 02 12:20:20 <guyzmo> aholler - no, it's all 3.3V
Jun 02 12:20:31 <guyzmo> but actually it's my device that is totally weird
Jun 02 12:20:40 <guyzmo> it's not just register read/write
Jun 02 12:21:09 <guyzmo> but it uses a format like : [address][register][length][command][data]
Jun 02 12:21:25 <guyzmo> and sometimes when something is really wrong, it disappears
Jun 02 13:42:24 <prohitkpr> I compiled a example cfft code given with c6run for 00_98_03_03 version and 0_95_02_02 version. environment.sh files are same. but the dsp executables generated are different
Jun 02 13:42:48 <prohitkpr> one is being executed properly. Other the beagleboard gets stuck
Jun 02 14:00:45 <aholler> guyzmo: and you haven't forgotten the pullups?
Jun 02 14:03:53 <guyzmo> aholler - nope, it is working
Jun 02 14:06:23 <guyzmo> aholler - here's what I've done : http://i.got.nothing.to/hack/
Jun 02 14:26:19 <angs> I use angstroms dist 3.2.18 for beaglebone, what is the substitute directory of "/etc/init.d/networking" on 3.2.18?
Jun 02 14:33:43 <niro> find / -iname networking
Jun 02 14:33:54 <angs> thanks niro
Jun 02 14:35:01 <niro> but, it may also be using systemd, and not init.
Jun 02 14:35:16 <angs> it did not find any result
Jun 02 14:36:06 <angs> do you know what file could be responsible for /etc/network/interfaces
Jun 02 14:36:20 <angs> there is no /etc/network directory as well
Jun 02 14:38:16 <niro> type ps aux [PIPE] grep init
Jun 02 14:38:37 <niro> btw, my keyboard isn't set up properly, so don't type pipe, use the pipe character.
Jun 02 14:40:17 <angs> http://pastebin.com/EV536VDe
Jun 02 14:40:31 <guyzmo> well
Jun 02 14:40:36 <guyzmo> angs - it's using connman
Jun 02 14:40:48 <guyzmo> and it's a real mess
Jun 02 14:41:21 <guyzmo> you can deinstall connman if you need to fallback to "real world" about networking
Jun 02 14:41:23 <angs> I would like to change "iface wlan0" what file do I need to eddit?
Jun 02 14:41:30 <guyzmo> it's not a file anymore
Jun 02 14:41:34 <guyzmo> it's a big dbus mess
Jun 02 14:41:44 <niro> Why does it use connman?
Jun 02 14:41:53 <guyzmo> niro - that is a good question
Jun 02 14:42:05 <guyzmo> niro - it doesn't even support IP aliasing...
Jun 02 14:42:21 <guyzmo> angs - you shall RTFM about connman
Jun 02 14:42:33 <guyzmo> there's a /usr/lib based directory full of connman scripts
Jun 02 14:42:43 <guyzmo> that helps you configure your devices and save that configuration
Jun 02 14:42:49 <guyzmo> I don't know them by heart
Jun 02 14:42:52 <angs> thanks
Jun 02 14:43:03 <guyzmo> (when I discovered about it, I followed some tutorials to remove connman :P)
Jun 02 14:43:49 <niro> does it have anything to do with power management?
Jun 02 14:44:28 <guyzmo> it follows the new trend of having everythin dbus based
Jun 02 14:44:33 <guyzmo> systemd, journald etc..
Jun 02 14:45:19 <guyzmo> I don't really have an opinion of it being good or bad (I know people who say it's really stupid...)
Jun 02 14:45:32 <guyzmo> but connman is not feature complete, and still in development
Jun 02 14:45:34 <niro> I should really get to grips with dbus then.
Jun 02 14:45:44 <aholler> connman is from the bluez-guys, therefor it uses dbus
Jun 02 14:45:46 <guyzmo> so I don't understand why it gets deployed per default
Jun 02 14:47:27 <aholler> it has the same problem as bluez had, unusable until someone develops command line tools (bluez-tools in case of bluez)
Jun 02 14:58:05 <koen> aholler: /var/lib/conmman/ has regular config files
Jun 02 14:58:12 <koen> aholler: unless your emacs needs dbus
Jun 02 15:22:33 <aholler> my emacs wouldn't touch /var if I would use emacs ;)
Jun 02 15:25:02 <aholler> anyway network-configuration was always painfull, regardless which distribution. maybe connman will bring somewhat like a standard if it gets grown up
Jun 02 15:50:37 <blucalvin> Hi guys,  I happened to load a usb gadget driver (g_audio.ko) in my beagleboard XM. The host laptop recognized it. However, can anyone help me out on how I can test it?
Jun 02 15:51:15 <blucalvin> I used a C program to open the driver (/dev/usbmon2) and wrote some random characters into the file descriptor.
Jun 02 15:51:32 <blucalvin> Is there anyway to check if that was received on the host machine?
Jun 02 16:07:44 <guyzmo> koen - when I tried to RTFM about it, I only found out about : /usr/lib/connman/test/ scripts
Jun 02 16:16:14 <w|zzy> Sigh.. Getting libgles-omap3 to build is painful
Jun 02 16:21:42 <prohitkpr> I am getting message CIO MSGQ_locate() failed
Jun 02 16:22:17 <prohitkpr> can anyone help me resolve it?
Jun 02 17:03:19 <prpplague> koen: look you are going to have to speak to my son, apparently some has given him a whole new set of insulting dutch phrases......
Jun 02 17:04:37 <jacekowski> prpplague: good for him
Jun 02 17:29:56 <Sh0rtWave> prpplague: Why's your name familiar to me....
Jun 02 17:29:59 <Sh0rtWave> prpplague: Juicebox?
Jun 02 17:30:30 <prpplague> Sh0rtWave: yes indeed, of many ages ago
Jun 02 17:30:42 <Sh0rtWave> indeed
Jun 02 17:30:53 <Sh0rtWave> I kept that stuff on my webserver for the longest time
Jun 02 17:31:27 <prpplague> hehe
Jun 02 17:31:41 <prpplague> we still have a large number of pages on elinux about it
Jun 02 17:36:29 <Sh0rtWave> You probably didn't hear about the big touchscreen table project I did.
Jun 02 17:36:52 <Sh0rtWave> http://ny.racked.com/archives/2011/11/10/genescoop_cafe_at_barneys_is_incredible.php
Jun 02 17:36:56 <Sh0rtWave> 30 27" multitouch screens
Jun 02 17:37:24 <Sh0rtWave> browses/shares media (videos, etc.), order from cafe' menu, shop the store (which is utterly ridiculous given that you're IN the store)
Jun 02 17:40:03 <prpplague> Sh0rtWave: nice!
Jun 02 17:40:45 <Sh0rtWave> Lots of fun
Jun 02 17:40:47 <Sh0rtWave> Lots of work, but lots of fun.
Jun 02 17:40:52 <Sh0rtWave> 2 screens per workstation
Jun 02 17:41:10 <Sh0rtWave> you can drag-share media in any direction
Jun 02 17:41:19 <Sh0rtWave> UDP FTW
Jun 02 17:42:30 <Sh0rtWave> http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/47404121/1/table?h=7ddcf2
Jun 02 17:42:35 <Sh0rtWave> there's my dropbox gallery on it
Jun 02 17:42:51 <Sh0rtWave> That's me hacking it in one of those pics
Jun 02 17:43:18 <prpplague> dandy
Jun 02 17:43:23 * prpplague posts to g+
Jun 02 17:52:06 <koen> prpplague: I'll be in town soon
Jun 02 19:49:48 <deffrag> Hello! When trying to boot Beaglebaord, its getting stuck at -  ** Unable to read "uEnv.txt" from mmc 0:1 **  Loading file "/boot/uImage" from mmc device 0:2 (xxa2)  - What does it mean? Am I missing something here?
Jun 02 20:18:43 <lautriv> koen around ?
Jun 02 20:24:01 <prpplague> lautriv: he's more of a square
Jun 02 20:24:12 <prpplague> lautriv: but not that most people notice
Jun 02 20:25:32 <lautriv> prpplague, is he "the" koen who wrote that article about kernel 3.0 on hx4700 @ angstrom-distribution.org ?
Jun 02 20:57:47 * mranostay notes driving after an eye exam is always fun
Jun 02 21:53:21 * wmat thinks that was a Seinfeld episode
Jun 02 22:18:22 <Borillion> How do you do menuconfig and import the settings presets?
Jun 02 22:28:20 <jacekowski> well, do menuconfig
Jun 02 22:28:24 <jacekowski> there is option there
Jun 02 22:28:36 <jacekowski> and google.com is your friend
Jun 02 22:41:29 <jay6981> anyone know how to make gcc stop putting an eh_frame section into my code?
Jun 02 22:42:31 <mranostay> does anyone know how to google?
Jun 02 22:51:08 <jay6981> really… why even ask questions at all anymore?
Jun 02 22:52:38 <mranostay> jay6981: coding C++?
Jun 02 22:52:58 <jay6981> nope
Jun 02 22:53:22 <jay6981> apparently gcc started to put unwind tables in, even if you use -ffreestanding
Jun 02 22:53:34 <jay6981> the answer is to use -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables
Jun 02 23:02:13 <Sh0rtWave> Knowing how to google doesn't necessarily mean you can find an answer to a question. The beauty of having a group of experts or otherwise experienced people to ask questions of, is that you don't have to troll though a thousand results, and read through endless forum posts where people didn't really know how to answer a question. The signal to noise ratio when asking a question in IRC is MUCH higher than what you'll find through google.
Jun 02 23:02:28 <Sh0rtWave> Just saying, reflexive "let me google that for you" is not always the best answer.
Jun 02 23:07:32 <Borillion> lol
Jun 02 23:07:45 <jay6981> heh, not sure about the SNR ratio being higher… there's a lot of trolls here
Jun 02 23:07:56 <jay6981> s/ratio//
Jun 02 23:08:05 <Borillion> I know menuconfig, just didn't know it got settings if you did it after config with default
Jun 02 23:08:59 <Borillion> also this may be irreverent, but it is not preferable to enable things like usb gsm drivers and serial in kernel as modules rather than build them in?
Jun 02 23:26:15 <Borillion> umm when I save the new config and try to use it I get make[1]: Nothing to be done for `myconfig'.
Jun 03 00:57:35 <Borillion> can I mkmmc-android.sh to an img file?
Jun 03 00:59:20 <riskable> The only way I know how to make an image file is to make the SD card just the way I want and then to make a dd image of that
Jun 03 01:00:15 <riskable> So I submitted a patch to fix the numpy dependencies (http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/29089/) and I'm curious how long it usually takes for a patch to be accepted.  It is a very simple patch
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