**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 03 02:59:59 2012
Jun 03 05:19:40 <thealphanerd> anyone in here live in ohio and want to see radiohead this week?  I have an extra pair of tickets
Jun 03 05:24:16 <jvcleave> i am in ohio but will be out oof town :/
Jun 03 05:24:36 <jvcleave> saw them in st louis tho :)
Jun 03 05:27:12 <jeshwanth> Hi anybody here ?
Jun 03 05:27:36 <jvcleave> hi
Jun 03 05:27:49 <jeshwanth> Hi jvcleave
Jun 03 05:28:12 <jeshwanth> I am facing one problem with my beaglebone?
Jun 03 05:29:00 <jeshwanth> I just upgrade the amstrong of my BB after that no pwm sys files are present
Jun 03 05:29:25 <jeshwanth> so if I want to install this manually, where shall I get source code ?
Jun 03 05:30:41 <jvcleave> I use debian as opposed to amstrong but is it on github?
Jun 03 05:31:53 <jeshwanth> ya, the source code I found in git is present under kooenki-linux repo beaglebone 3.22 branch
Jun 03 05:32:33 <jvcleave> and i have this bookmark from an issue I was having https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/beagleboard/Kyq1NQOFSns
Jun 03 07:03:51 <_av500_> gm
Jun 03 07:06:44 <ka6sox> mourning
Jun 03 08:50:16 <Borillion> I have to set rfkill to get a usb 3g dongle to work, its hso.ko will it break everything else?
Jun 03 08:50:24 <Borillion> and how do I do it?
Jun 03 08:57:39 * mranostay doesn't follow one bit
Jun 03 11:39:01 <aholler> hmm, 3.4.1 is lost in asia.I wonder if it would fix ehci on the beagle
Jun 03 12:04:55 * _av500_ heard 3.6.0 is good for usb
Jun 03 12:05:21 <adj> usb 3.6.0?
Jun 03 12:18:10 * _av500_ waits for usb 7.2.0
Jun 03 12:22:06 <koen> _av500_: only on ES n+1
Jun 03 12:25:06 <_av500_> koen: well yes, not on TI silicon
Jun 03 15:58:50 <aleek> hello! Im lookin at u-boot code for sending characters to uart - I need simple printf function on bare metal. Does anybody know, where can I find this function for beagleboard?
Jun 03 17:00:16 <_av500_> in uboot source code
Jun 03 17:02:22 <aleek> _av500_: " Im lookin at u-boot code "
Jun 03 17:03:01 <_av500_> yes, its well hidden
Jun 03 17:03:11 <aleek> ive found it already
Jun 03 17:03:24 <_av500_> damn
Jun 03 17:19:41 <mranostay> heh
Jun 03 17:52:36 <mranostay> _av500_: did we become a help channel for everything tech somehow?
Jun 03 18:03:44 <_av500_> become?
Jun 03 18:17:34 <aleek> kurwa jego mać guys, http://pastebin.com/UMJdAqTt this is simple code for printing to uart console. It works when stepping via jtag, but running normal is not working
Jun 03 18:19:18 <aleek> Ive put even while loop, to delay putting chars into the queue,but is doesnt work either
Jun 03 18:20:32 <aleek> sometimes it puts one char
Jun 03 18:53:17 <aholler> that while i will get optimized away
Jun 03 18:55:53 <aleek> fixed!!!
Jun 03 18:56:20 <aleek> I havent noticed, that I had caching enabled in this section of memory
Jun 03 20:17:23 <wmat> jkridner_: is there a beaglebone icon?
Jun 03 20:18:07 <prpplague> wmat: http://www.bonecrazydoggrooming.com/web_images/dog-bone.jpg
Jun 03 20:23:03 <wmat> heh
Jun 03 20:26:31 <prpplague> wmat: btw, you are a go for another 1k
Jun 03 21:11:11 <lautriv> ok, wrong channel here but is anone familiar with the internals of a hp ipaq hx 4700 ?
Jun 03 21:16:42 <wmat> prpplague: sweet!
Jun 03 21:36:26 <_av500_> lautriv: do not announce being off-topic, just be it :)
Jun 03 21:36:45 * fiola laughs
Jun 03 21:37:00 <fiola> _av500_: I'll have to remember that one :P
Jun 03 21:37:16 <lautriv> _av500_, i must shame to ask here but there is obviously no alternative on freenode ;)
Jun 03 21:40:28 <_av500_> lautriv: you still have not asked
Jun 03 21:40:32 <fiola> lautriv: HX4700 mentioned a few times here -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipaq -- nothing detailed though
Jun 03 21:41:39 <lautriv> _av500_, just need to know if the usual mmcblk0 is driven by the PXA or the ASIC3, i get unknown device on boot and wonder about a conflict.
Jun 03 21:44:14 <_av500_> lautriv: that question is off-topic here
Jun 03 21:50:17 <lautriv> _av500_, like i mentioned ........ maybe you know a better channel ?
Jun 03 21:52:58 <_av500_> lautriv: try #edev
Jun 03 21:53:06 <_av500_> its full of "old" people
Jun 03 21:58:42 <lautriv> _av500_, i see you, so you consider yourself to be "old" ?
Jun 03 23:03:58 <wmat> _av500_: who you calling old ;)
Jun 03 23:23:40 <fiola> Young, youth: adj, n, person unknowingly about to make a mistake.
Jun 03 23:23:43 <fiola> :P
Jun 03 23:24:32 <mranostay> yeah but i have extra 30 years to live versus the elder _av500_ :P
Jun 03 23:25:40 <aholler> and you are sure that is an advantage?
Jun 03 23:26:15 <fiola> Not sure the world has 30 years left to go, the way things are heading
Jun 03 23:27:21 <fiola> Also wondering whether firefox will have compiled by then ... :P
Jun 04 00:22:00 <waltermixxx> howdy folks :)
Jun 04 00:26:00 <riskable> So I submitted a patch to the openembedded dev mailing list but it hasn't been accepted and it hasn't even been discussed...  Curious if I'm missing something
Jun 04 00:34:55 <waltermixxx> best usb based wireless n wifi card to use with beagle board xM ? :) any suggestions :)
Jun 04 00:35:09 <riskable> Don't use an rtl8912cus!
Jun 04 00:35:15 <riskable> LOL, I got one and it sucks
Jun 04 00:35:33 <waltermixxx> okie doke :) i will try and avoid ones based on that...
Jun 04 00:36:12 <waltermixxx> problem to work with? or driver issue? or was it simply unstable?
Jun 04 00:38:38 <waltermixxx> what model number and make was it?
Jun 04 00:45:57 <waltermixxx> Jason, question about python, is it pre loaded on the micro sd that comes with the beagle board xM ? :)
Jun 04 00:46:54 <waltermixxx> I cannot wait to get my beagle board xM tomorrow...
Jun 04 00:47:30 <waltermixxx> ordered from Newark/element 14  (digi-key.ca did not have any in stock)
Jun 04 00:47:50 <riskable> I could very well have received a poorly-made USB dongle but it could also be a driver issue
Jun 04 00:48:05 <waltermixxx> who made it?
Jun 04 00:48:59 <riskable> I'm away on vacation right now so I can't tell you
Jun 04 00:49:08 <riskable> It was $7 on Amazon
Jun 04 00:49:10 <waltermixxx> np :)
Jun 04 00:49:28 <waltermixxx> wow that is very inexpensive. :)
Jun 04 00:49:36 <waltermixxx> where are you vacationing?
Jun 04 00:50:07 <waltermixxx> does the wife know you have sneaked off to get your fix techie stuff?
Jun 04 00:54:35 <riskable> With the wife
Jun 04 00:54:36 <riskable> hehe
Jun 04 00:54:48 <riskable> I'm in Massachusetts, USA
Jun 04 00:55:00 <riskable> In a little town called Middleton
Jun 04 00:55:02 <waltermixxx> cool, I'm in toronto canada :)
Jun 04 00:55:18 <waltermixxx> went to cape cod last year in the summer
Jun 04 00:55:27 <waltermixxx> quite nice :)
Jun 04 00:56:05 <waltermixxx> stayed in barnstable ( think that is what its called ) nice bed and breakfast there... Lion and Lamb i think it was called
Jun 04 00:56:20 <riskable> BTW:  Python *is* preloaded on the default Angstrom image
Jun 04 00:56:26 <riskable> Without it, Gate One wouldn't work :)
Jun 04 00:56:36 <waltermixxx> ok thanks, that is very helpful :)
Jun 04 00:57:13 <waltermixxx> have you used python to directly turn pins on and off ? or perhaps the user L.E.D.'s for testing? :)
Jun 04 00:58:39 <riskable> Yep
Jun 04 00:58:49 <waltermixxx> cool
Jun 04 00:58:58 <waltermixxx> is it easier to use than cloud9 ?
Jun 04 00:59:05 <riskable> Piece of cake...  You just open the sysfs files and write to them.  That turns the pins on and off, puts them in various modes, and whatnot
Jun 04 00:59:09 <riskable> I think so
Jun 04 00:59:23 <riskable> I know both Python and JS very well...  JS is a terrible language
Jun 04 00:59:55 <waltermixxx> lol I saw some guy on youtube raving about how terrible it is... and how stupid....
Jun 04 00:59:59 <riskable> Doing things the Cloud9 way is pretty simple and straightforward but to do anything simultaneously becomes a huge PITA real fast
Jun 04 01:00:13 <waltermixxx> ok I will keep that in mind :)
Jun 04 01:00:24 <riskable> Here's my favorite example of how bad JS is:  [] != []
Jun 04 01:00:34 <waltermixxx> yikes
Jun 04 01:01:15 <waltermixxx> kinda like (  |  )
Jun 04 01:01:18 <waltermixxx> :) lol
Jun 04 01:01:37 <waltermixxx> (ok that's supposed to be an ass...)
Jun 04 01:01:47 <waltermixxx> a bad JS joke?
Jun 04 01:01:48 <waltermixxx> :)
Jun 04 01:01:58 <riskable> hehe
Jun 04 01:02:20 <waltermixxx> do you have a beagle board xM or the regular beagle board?  or Beagle bone?
Jun 04 01:02:49 <riskable> I have a Beaglebone
Jun 04 01:03:12 <waltermixxx> I am starting to think I perhaps should have purchased one of those...
Jun 04 01:03:35 <waltermixxx> but I even though I would never use the extra ram, it was nice having it....
Jun 04 01:04:02 <waltermixxx> I just hope I can use it as easily as the beagle bone seems to be :)
Jun 04 01:04:37 <waltermixxx> i'm hoping that with a few changes in the programs, I could get them to run on the beagle board xM...
Jun 04 01:05:25 <riskable> Absolutely
Jun 04 01:05:40 <waltermixxx> that sounds promising...
Jun 04 01:05:49 <riskable> The 'bone has more I/O pings but the Beagleboards still have those same features
Jun 04 01:06:25 <riskable> s/pings/pins
Jun 04 01:06:56 <waltermixxx> I guess technically a lot of the i/o pins are tucked away in other interfaces.... the lcd port on the beagle board must have tons of i/o pins on it should I need more, but I figure 22 gpio pins would be enough :)
Jun 04 01:08:05 <waltermixxx> or 20 gpio pins and the i2c pins... :) was thinking of using one of these pwm expansion boards from adafruit
Jun 04 01:08:23 <waltermixxx> it's a little board that uses i2c and provides 16 channels of pwm :)
Jun 04 01:09:20 <waltermixxx> https://www.adafruit.com/products/815
Jun 04 01:10:03 <waltermixxx> looks like a nice little board :)
Jun 04 01:10:26 <waltermixxx> would have to use a level converter for 1.8 to 3.3 volt
Jun 04 01:13:18 <waltermixxx> what are you doing with your beagle bone?
Jun 04 01:14:19 <waltermixxx> I'm still looking forward to using cloud9 :)
Jun 04 01:14:40 <waltermixxx> I like the interface... it may be a great way to get connected to the beagle board and do some programming :)
Jun 04 01:15:39 <waltermixxx> I watched Jason's youtube video where he discusses it, and it seems very cool, unfortunately the video sort of cuts off part way through on youtube... I wonder if that video is available anywhere else?
Jun 04 01:15:46 <waltermixxx> I would like to see the whole thing :)
Jun 04 01:16:45 <riskable> I really wish I had the time to make a python-centric install of Cloud9
Jun 04 01:17:44 <waltermixxx> that sounds like a great project
Jun 04 01:18:04 <waltermixxx> i have never programmed in python or js
Jun 04 01:18:16 <waltermixxx> just started to learn some c ( arduino programming )
Jun 04 01:18:52 <waltermixxx> and did quite a bit of programming in basic  ever hear of Bascom for Atmel micro controllers?
Jun 04 01:19:11 <waltermixxx> basic compiler for atmel chips... very very cool :)
Jun 04 01:19:44 <waltermixxx> built a couple of projects using it... :)
Jun 04 01:21:06 <waltermixxx> are you going to get a raspberry pi when it becomes available?
Jun 04 01:21:20 <waltermixxx> I ordered one, but it will not be in until August some time...
Jun 04 01:23:04 <riskable> I'd love to have one but I doubt I'll be able to obtain one any time soon
Jun 04 01:23:22 <riskable> I don't have enough time t play with my Beaglebone and my (several) Arduinos let alone another device :)
Jun 04 01:24:35 <waltermixxx> I built an internet dog treat dispenser with my arduino, rn-xv wifi module and server motor... uses udp works pretty good :)
Jun 04 01:24:48 <waltermixxx> servo motor, not server
Jun 04 01:25:46 <waltermixxx> i have a little video on youtube as to how it works... basically it can do anything you want... turn on leds servo's etc. :) uses a pretty cool app called ardumote  :)
Jun 04 01:27:21 <riskable> My best Arduino construction is an RFID cloner that I wrapped myself with magnetic wire :)
Jun 04 01:27:34 <waltermixxx> wild...
Jun 04 01:27:57 <waltermixxx> great way to duplicate security cards...
Jun 04 01:28:13 <waltermixxx> perhaps I should say, back up security cards :)
Jun 04 01:29:24 <waltermixxx> did you get an enclosure for your beagle bone?
Jun 04 01:29:59 <riskable> Not yet... Adafruit was sold out
Jun 04 01:30:18 <waltermixxx> i like theirs... it's very cool... bone shaped. :)
Jun 04 01:30:22 <riskable> I signed up to be notified when they had stock available but I got the email several hours after it was sent and by the time I hit their website it was sold out again :(
Jun 04 01:30:37 <riskable> I will probably just make my own once Gate One 1.1 is out
Jun 04 01:30:39 <waltermixxx> drag
Jun 04 01:31:05 <waltermixxx> what is Gate One 1.1 ?  ( sorry new to linux )
Jun 04 01:31:46 <waltermixxx> i just installed linux ubuntu on my hp2510p laptop and an old dell gx620 :)
Jun 04 01:32:07 <waltermixxx> but have not really messed around with it much yet.
Jun 04 01:32:18 <riskable> http://liftoffsoftware.com
Jun 04 01:32:30 <riskable> There's info on Gate One there...  Links to videos and info, etc etc
Jun 04 01:32:40 <riskable> It's a web-based terminal emulator.  HTML5.  No plugins required
Jun 04 01:32:47 <riskable> It is installed on the Beaglebone by default
Jun 04 01:33:32 <waltermixxx> i just googled it, and ended up there :)
Jun 04 01:34:14 <waltermixxx> looks interesting...
Jun 04 01:34:31 <waltermixxx> do you watch Hak5 video podcast?
Jun 04 01:35:23 <riskable> No
Jun 04 01:36:04 <ds2> ~
Jun 04 01:36:10 <waltermixxx> it's on revision3 it's pretty cool they talk about linux a lot, and Bash, and SH stuff like that...
Jun 04 01:36:22 <waltermixxx> ssh
Jun 04 01:36:25 <waltermixxx> no sh
Jun 04 01:36:28 <waltermixxx> not sh
Jun 04 01:36:40 <waltermixxx> not doing too well with the typing this evening... :)
Jun 04 01:37:07 <riskable> hehehe
Jun 04 01:43:49 <waltermixxx> quite a list of folks online...pretty quiet...
Jun 04 01:44:45 <waltermixxx> is usually quiet like this? or are there heated debates on angstrom vs ubuntu?  :)
Jun 04 01:45:08 <waltermixxx> or js.node vs python :)
Jun 04 01:48:22 <waltermixxx_> hmmm i got bounced?  my mac has been acting strange all evening...
Jun 04 01:50:07 <riskable> Sundays, yes
Jun 04 01:50:50 <riskable> My experience is that this room is most active on weekdays
Jun 04 01:51:36 <waltermixxx_> i will have to log on again tomorrow and see how it goes :)
Jun 04 01:52:21 <waltermixxx_> I'm gonna call it a night on the chat room,  have a good evening... I will say hi if I see you online... I'm going to check out the google group and do some reading :)
Jun 04 01:52:31 <waltermixxx_> cheers and thanks again for your help with my questions :)
Jun 04 01:52:46 <riskable> No prob
Jun 04 02:01:39 <Borillion> Is there anyway possible to boot from a usb flash drive?
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