**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 07 02:59:59 2012 Jun 07 04:40:46 scooby doobie do... :) it's getting late again... Jun 07 04:45:58 i just followed this guide, but I cant access the ethernet on the zippy2: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Zippy2 are there any troubleshooting tips for the zippy2? Jun 07 04:57:22 Howdy! Does anyone know the appropriate thing to modify in board-am335xevm.c to set pin mux settings from the kernel for the Beaglebone? Or even, is that the correct file to modify? I've been running through these 3800 lines of code for a while and it's not jumping out at me. Jun 07 04:59:51 Particularly the UART1 RXD and TXD pins. they default to MODE 7 and I need to make them MODE 0 on boot. Jun 07 05:14:50 well done colord-sane, well done Jun 07 05:14:53 http://pastebin.com/J4AqwmHu Jun 07 05:15:27 and spin spin spin! Jun 07 05:15:30 select(1044, [8 9 11 1040], NULL, NULL, {1, 0}) = 1 (in [1040], left {0, 999993}) Jun 07 05:15:30 select(1044, [8 9 11 1040], NULL, NULL, {1, 0}) = 1 (in [1040], left {0, 999993}) Jun 07 05:22:33 Russ: testing context switch times? :) Jun 07 05:26:25 I ran out of disk space on that drive and colord-sane lost its mind Jun 07 05:29:36 '-sane' huh... Jun 07 05:39:03 how is it 11 almost?... Jun 07 05:40:06 you must be overclocking Jun 07 05:40:59 overdosing on caffeine maybe Jun 07 05:41:12 drinking the 128oz rockstars again? :D Jun 07 05:42:15 i'm more of Red Bull guy if do energy drinks Jun 07 05:42:34 but red bulls don't come in gigantic containers Jun 07 05:44:05 heh Jun 07 05:44:06 there is a place in SNV that sells rockstars in cans as big as the AZ ice tea cans Jun 07 05:44:11 that is what she said? Jun 07 05:45:19 :) Jun 07 05:45:51 * mranostay looks for HR bot Jun 07 05:46:45 AZ ice tea can size? why not just do bath salts at that point? ?) Jun 07 05:46:55 hehehe Jun 07 05:58:13 hmm...wonder if I can find rooster booster like that Jun 07 05:59:34 not the super stuff, the regular stuff, the super stuff tastes like crap Jun 07 06:24:16 whats EXPERT here in, Depends on: !S390 && INPUT [=y] && INPUT_TOUCHSCREEN [=y] && TOUCHSCREEN_USB_EGALAX [=y] && EXPERT Jun 07 07:41:21 does beaglebone A5 have EABI ARM or Hard Floated ABI ARM architecture? Jun 07 07:42:28 isn Jun 07 07:42:43 isn't that just a software convention for the distribution in use? Jun 07 07:44:40 I installed debian on my beaglebone. I could not figure out what architecture do I need to select on http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages to search packages for it? Jun 07 07:44:59 EABI ARM or Hard Floated ABI ARM are the only arm options Jun 07 07:45:03 the architecture you installed ofcourse Jun 07 07:45:17 angs: check what version you have installed. Jun 07 07:45:30 3.2.0-psp6 Jun 07 07:45:34 uname -a might tell IIRC Jun 07 07:45:41 I manually edited .config, do I just say make uImage now? Jun 07 07:45:47 actually it wont Jun 07 07:45:48 dm8tbr: no, don't think so. Jun 07 07:45:50 I Linux omap 3.2.0-psp6 #1 Thu Mar 22 05:08:40 UTC 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux Jun 07 07:45:55 as the kernel can be whatever Jun 07 07:46:00 angs: thats a kernel version, no ABI Jun 07 07:46:08 file on a random binary should though Jun 07 07:47:23 dm8tbr: no, not even that. Jun 07 07:47:37 ok, then I'm out of random ideas :) Jun 07 07:47:54 it was something with apt. i just cant remember/google it. Jun 07 07:48:11 if I edit .config by hand after make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-eabi- myconfig_default and then make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-eabi- uImage its going to load my edits right? Jun 07 07:48:13 mhm, checking the apt config might do Jun 07 07:48:21 as there the repo should tell Jun 07 07:49:06 readelf -A /bin/sh Jun 07 07:49:59 dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH it was :) Jun 07 07:50:20 or dpkg --print-architecture likewise Jun 07 07:50:54 LetoThe2nd: what is ABI? what is the command for it? Jun 07 07:51:08 angs: told now two times. Jun 07 07:52:18 dpkg --print-architecture >> armhf Jun 07 08:10:59 hi i want use the meta-toolchain-qte in qt creator i'm build image and installed so i configure qt to import the meta-toolchain-qte and import the abi, so i create a simple test for build but when i run build qt creator said make:mainwonw.ui command not found. Jun 07 08:11:10 meta-toolchain-qte run with qt creator or not? Jun 07 08:28:24 meta-confusion Jun 07 08:29:11 aholler: ? Jun 07 08:33:32 its not complicated... i have a folder with the crosscompile library for import in qt creator and use for cross compil my application :) Jun 07 08:35:24 <_av500_> stuk_gen: I would say, you should ask your question to qt people Jun 07 08:36:52 how do you list kernel modules in android? Jun 07 08:37:16 proc/modules isnt working Jun 07 08:38:01 sh: /proc/modules: cannot execute - Permission denied Jun 07 08:40:28 <_av500_> cat /proc/modules? Jun 07 08:41:18 Hello! I'm new to BeagleBoard and Linux. I've not installed linux on desktop before. Could anyone guide me on installing linux on Beagleboard please? Jun 07 08:41:57 insert delivered sd-card, done Jun 07 08:42:59 Pertok: welcome to hell :) Jun 07 08:43:17 I didn't get any SD card, just the board. But still, I would like to try installing linux on SD. Is there any documentation/online resource for the same? Jun 07 08:43:46 Even I'd like to "install" Jun 07 08:45:20 Or any resource for porting linux on Bagleboard Jun 07 08:45:35 <_av500_> its done Jun 07 08:45:37 <_av500_> rejoice Jun 07 08:45:40 stuk_gen: Heh... is installtion difficult? Jun 07 08:45:46 use knoppix to learn linux, not a beagleboard Jun 07 08:46:01 oh is it "porting" time again? Jun 07 08:46:54 Um Jun 07 08:47:26 * LetoThe2nd sets the checkbox for "friday mode" Jun 07 08:47:53 Pertok: I started with elinux beagleboard documentation Jun 07 08:48:18 <_av500_> Pertok: http://www.circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Circuitco_Support_Wiki Jun 07 08:48:36 <_av500_> use that to flash a "factory" image first Jun 07 08:51:58 Pertok: if you know nothing about linux ..yes :) Jun 07 08:52:38 stuk_gen: Used Ubuntu recently but new to linux, yes Jun 07 08:53:07 <_av500_> Pertok: as said, start from the factory image Jun 07 08:53:21 _av500_: Yes, thanks. I was reading that page Jun 07 08:53:26 <_av500_> and/or read the beagleboard website Jun 07 08:53:32 _av500_, it works, but Im not seeing what Im looking for Jun 07 08:54:21 Borillion: that option just enables something in another module. and expert means it is always enabled if you aren't an expert Jun 07 08:54:29 Thank you Jun 07 08:55:08 thanks aholler, why can't I find this in the menuconfig ? Jun 07 08:55:16 aholler, everything is on Jun 07 08:55:19 because you aren't an expert Jun 07 08:55:53 The expansion interface of BeagleBone has two 46 pin connectors .All the pins are mux function,how to set the pin mux on the processor? Jun 07 08:55:53 how do you do that? Jun 07 08:56:48 I did add config_expert=y in .config as well as touchscreen_egalax_reverse=y but it didn't seem to get included Jun 07 09:00:29 Borillion: read the help for usb touchscreen driver Jun 07 09:01:03 um where lol? Jun 07 09:01:45 by pressing help in menuconfig Jun 07 09:02:03 it's written "< Help >" Jun 07 09:02:21 in grey with a red H Jun 07 09:02:39 on the bottom of the screen Jun 07 09:02:44 oh that help lol Jun 07 09:02:45 right side Jun 07 09:02:51 I see it :P Jun 07 09:03:03 exact steps day Jun 07 09:08:13 aholler: plz send me the codez Jun 07 09:08:31 omg thanks aholler Jun 07 09:10:02 so I save this as .config and then make uImage right? Jun 07 09:10:31 koen: just typeyou password, I will see it only as **** but you will see the codez Jun 07 09:11:16 The expansion interface of BeagleBone has two 46 pin connectors .All the pins are mux function,how to set the pin mux ? Jun 07 09:39:16 hello, anyone using ethernet over usb via cdc-ether module ? Jun 07 09:40:00 Hi all..like there dvi-d and dvi-i in dvi, are there any types in case of hdmi? and does hdmi support analog video? Jun 07 09:42:23 try #google Jun 07 09:43:18 Guest20659, simply NO. Jun 07 09:44:20 lautriv, No for both the questions? Jun 07 09:44:51 Guest20659, hdmi is digital only Jun 07 09:45:05 ok Jun 07 09:46:44 Guest20659, that has 2 major reasons, a.) because hdmi means high-definition it would be hard to get it analog over such small wires b.) analog is much more expensive. Jun 07 09:47:43 oh, toolate Jun 07 09:49:33 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=there+dvi-d+and+dvi-i+in+dvi%2C+are+there+any+types+in+case+of+hdmi%3F+and+does+hdmi+support+analog+video%3F Jun 07 09:52:17 aholler, he's gone. Jun 07 09:52:29 unusual for ntd Jun 07 09:53:08 aholler, do you sometimes use eth-over-usb ? Jun 07 09:53:36 if I need to do Jun 07 09:55:38 currently more often (for teathering) Jun 07 09:57:08 i have actually the simple problem of starting it. configured for static IP, and even cdc_ether in /etc/modules my networking don't start it on boot. i wonder what i miss there. Jun 07 10:01:00 Hi all, I've installed gnome and gdm on angstrome [on xm] and have a strange problem! gdm does not show the box for entering username and password ... Jun 07 10:01:26 I googled and found nothing around this but seems configurations are ok ... Jun 07 10:01:46 nkh, does it raise up some graphics ? Jun 07 10:01:57 by the way , what's the correct configuration files for gdm? Jun 07 10:02:48 lautriv: Yes! I see gdm itself and the computer Icon , shutdown switch in right corner , etc Jun 07 10:03:16 lautriv: but the box which I should type the user name in it is missing :D Jun 07 10:04:05 nkh, you may check how the X comes up (Xorg.0.log) maybe it's outside of your screen. Jun 07 10:04:30 I installed angstrom-task-gnome from the repo and I remmeber I had installed gdm before, I think there is something wrong with configs and permissions Jun 07 10:05:09 lautriv: mm ok but it seems all the things are in the screen! I'll take a shot now and show you what I mean Jun 07 10:07:02 maybe the gnome people decided that a password box is too complicated for normal users ;) Jun 07 10:07:08 lautriv: I'll show you the Xorg log , any other log needed? Jun 07 10:07:20 aholler: :D Jun 07 10:07:33 nkh, we will see, just start somewhere Jun 07 10:09:32 nkh, i hope this is gnome2 ? Jun 07 10:10:00 try hand waving or shouting ;) Jun 07 10:10:19 lautriv: OF COURSE ! I hate 3 even on my laptop:D Jun 07 10:10:49 nkh, #3 was the reason for me to switch to XFCE ;) Jun 07 10:11:53 * lautriv mixes something up and tries hand shouting and waving around Jun 07 10:12:02 lautriv: I'm using 3 in fallback mode with compiz 0.8 on my ARCH, like a boss , feels gnome2 :D Jun 07 10:12:27 here is my Xorg.log Jun 07 10:12:35 nkh, still bloat and javish crap. rather unproductive. Jun 07 10:12:50 or the face recognition awaits a dumb facial expression Jun 07 10:13:22 :) Jun 07 10:13:27 aholler: ******* Jun 07 10:13:30 aholler, face recognition works fine if i let my dog look there ;) Jun 07 10:13:33 yes like the one ;) Jun 07 10:13:47 try looking like homer Jun 07 10:14:54 koen: try ph0rumz Jun 07 10:18:50 lautriv: this is the log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028337/ Jun 07 10:20:54 nkh 1440x 900 is intended and visible ? Jun 07 10:20:58 and here are the photos http://nkhdiscovery1.persiangig.com/prj/800x600-Photo0008.jpg Jun 07 10:21:45 ok, THAT looks like a totally other problem. Jun 07 10:21:49 and this : http://nkhdiscovery1.persiangig.com/prj/800x600-Photo0009.jpg Jun 07 10:21:49 lautriv: as you see in the photos, yes :| Jun 07 10:21:59 linux-mainline_3.2 gives me gpio error messages ( http://pastebin.com/nNb2RTds ), and my gpio input events no longer work. known issue / known patch? Jun 07 10:22:21 lautriv: what do you think ? :-? Jun 07 10:22:39 nkh from what i see, it looks like your PAM has a lookup problem or some files were disowned. Jun 07 10:23:12 lautriv: hmm yep, I don'y know much about pam Jun 07 10:24:17 nkh you may do some simple checks on CLI, if you can login without gui, it's probably gdm, if not you may login as root and do some getent/id checks. Jun 07 10:26:36 lautriv: I can login on tty , and also if I put exec gnome-session in /etc/X11/Xinit , It comes up and logins graphically with root ! [ which was a question for me , when gdm starts the X, why the user which is logined graphically is the root!? I also changed and exported $USER in Xinit and had no effect ] Jun 07 10:28:39 aholler http://picbin.org/main/view/4fd08247db81042f47000002 Jun 07 10:29:19 how come it still says no on USB_EGALAX_REVERSE ? Jun 07 10:29:29 * Borillion is frustrated Jun 07 10:32:02 nkh, X does always start with root and delegates certain userland. Xinit is not part of that problem, like you saw before X gave you already a screen. just gdm can't handle the regular users, this is why i suspected PAM or some files. Jun 07 10:33:10 nkh, you may add a random user and see if something will change. Jun 07 10:33:21 lautriv: in pam.d/gdm : 4 lines like "auth required pam_unix.so" [also for account, passwd and session] and two lines like "auth optional pam_gnome_keyring.so " and "session optional pam_gnome_keyring.so auto_start" Jun 07 10:33:51 lautriv: hmm good idea, let me check Jun 07 10:35:16 lautriv: Ow I froget to say another strange thing!:D Jun 07 10:36:24 you saw the photos? when I click on the text "beagleboard" , at the buttom of computer icon, it changes to "Linux 2.6.32" ! and changes to "beagleboard" with clicking again .... Jun 07 10:36:53 lautriv: what is this?! :D Jun 07 10:38:39 nkh, you can remote-login and obv. your host is detected as alternative. Jun 07 10:39:39 lautriv: sorry I dont get you:| [ my weak englishh :-< ] Jun 07 10:40:31 nkh, gdm can login on another than the local box, the 2.6.32 is probably your desktop/laptop whatever is on the network. Jun 07 10:41:09 Aw, it's not connected to any network :-? Jun 07 10:42:08 nkh, so you may have some mistakes in your general setup, what is in /etc/hosts /etc/resolv.conf and output of hostname -f ? Jun 07 10:42:32 lautriv: hah I figured sth new ... gdm button for restart and shutdown does not work, so the problem is with users and groups or so Jun 07 10:43:43 lautriv: is this: Jun 07 10:44:01 nkh, that goes in the same direction. the box is advised to search in a predefined order (nsswitch.conf) Jun 07 10:44:02 /etc/hosts: Jun 07 10:44:02 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost Jun 07 10:44:02 /etc/resolve.conf Jun 07 10:44:12 : Jun 07 10:44:54 nameserver 192.168.1.1 Jun 07 10:45:11 lautriv: look at the interesting part! : hostname -f : (none) ! Jun 07 10:45:43 Oh no , right , > hostname : beagleboard Jun 07 10:46:06 lautriv: so what to do with nsswitch.conf? need the output ? Jun 07 10:46:48 nkh so fix the following........echo "beagleboard" >/etc/hostname add 127.0.1.1 beagleboard.localdomain beagleboard Jun 07 10:47:23 to /etc/hosts Jun 07 10:53:47 (03:18:29 PM) lautriv: to /etc/hosts Jun 07 10:53:47 (03:19:17 PM) nkh: lautriv: 127.0.0.1 or 127.0.1.1 ? [ I do not know anyyhing related to network :D ] Jun 07 10:54:01 lautriv: seems I disconnected from here Jun 07 10:54:32 nkh, 127.0.1.1 was intended. there is 127.0.0.1 for loopback and the other for your host without external IP Jun 07 10:55:25 lautriv: Ow ok thanks, anyway, I did it and rebootes, nothing changed :| Jun 07 10:55:31 nkh, if you use network and don't own a DNS, add also the real IP in the same manner. Jun 07 10:56:33 nkh, what about some gdm.log ? Jun 07 10:58:42 lautriv: Ooow man ! why I didn't look for it before?! :| Jun 07 10:59:48 let me check it , it has errors like unable to find users : no seat-id found ... and also devkit-power-object errors and sound errors and and and .... Jun 07 10:59:50 :D Jun 07 11:00:23 nkh, unable to find users pointing to a bad lookup Jun 07 11:01:03 lautriv: and seems an error is printed in tty now, [ warning] gdm-binary Failed to acuire gnome.desktop.DisplayManager ..... Jun 07 11:01:17 nkh, reason why i suggested to add a ranom user which may fix some issues. Jun 07 11:01:51 lautriv: random means random, really? I added a new user and had no effect Jun 07 11:02:23 but I don't know any thing about random users if it's a specific kind of user ... :-?? Jun 07 11:03:39 how to enable spi in uboot...has anyone used cmd_spi.c Jun 07 11:04:59 nkh, nah, just a regular user without usage, having permissions to login, owns a shell and it's home. Jun 07 11:08:04 lautriv: hmm yea , I did and nothing changed after reboot ... Jun 07 11:08:52 nkh, if you do "id >regualruser<" on cli, do you get proper answer ? Jun 07 11:09:08 lautriv: I wonder why /etc/init.d/gdm restart or stop has no effect on the gdm! I should kill -9 `pgrep gdm` an then the mouse pointer and background are also remain ! Jun 07 11:10:27 lautriv: Oo Man , I started gdm again, and now there is a mouse and background on my tty2 [alt ctrl F2] an a gdm like before on tty3 ! :D Jun 07 11:11:29 the gdm group ID is 64009 and UID is 49 , any problem with these? :-? Jun 07 11:12:35 lautriv: Oh sorry I didn't see your last sent. , yea it works like id nkh-zhn , gives th UID and GID Jun 07 11:12:51 nkh, angstrom is much like debian and it's usual to have gdm as system-user/group Jun 07 11:13:19 which means they are usually below 500 where regular users should start with 1000 Jun 07 11:13:55 lautriv: hmm, so it's ok, id gdm says that gdm is in gdm group, only , is this ok/ Jun 07 11:14:01 ? Jun 07 11:14:14 yes, gdm has no other permissions. Jun 07 11:14:20 hmm ... Jun 07 11:15:31 nkh, maybe you pulled the drive and forgot fsck ? Jun 07 11:18:13 lautriv: !? maybe, you mean a fsck is requierd ? Jun 07 11:19:31 how about this: in 1.slave.log: Jun 07 11:19:35 nkh, i have this situation because my target has only touchscreen ( no beagle) and actually working on ethernet-over-usb. so each unsuccessful boot, i have to pull the SD due to the lack of shutdown command. Jun 07 11:20:03 unable to open session: the permission of the setuid helper is not correct Jun 07 11:20:24 lautriv: Owch . Jun 07 11:22:02 nkh, as far as i can remember gnome/gdm that 1.slave.log is gnome3 ? just in case find / -name gnome-shell should output nothing. Jun 07 11:24:24 lautriv: nothing , it's 2 I know, the log is named under /var/log/gdm as :1-slave.log Jun 07 11:24:58 gdm-simple-slave[1217]: WARNING: Unable to open .... Jun 07 11:25:24 nkh, however perms on setuid-helper is serious. Jun 07 11:26:30 lautriv: uhum, what's that ? "setuid-helper" Jun 07 11:28:11 sounds scary Jun 07 11:28:31 :-j Jun 07 11:29:26 lautriv: ok, thanks man! I'm gonna eat sth and take a rest, I'll be back and googling the warnings ... Jun 07 11:30:21 nkh, like the name suggests, some binary to help setting the UID . basically your X comes up with root-perms ( hardware-access) and certain apps were changed to the logged-in user. Jun 07 11:31:47 lautriv: hmm nice explained ... thanks :) Jun 07 11:47:43 bbl Jun 07 11:56:06 For beaglebone ,why I can't find pin mux set document, in /sys/kernel/debug/ ,I can't find any thing .How to set pin mux??? Jun 07 12:58:35 gm all Jun 07 12:58:51 morning jkridner_ Jun 07 12:58:51 hi jkridner_ Jun 07 13:04:01 jkridner_: give http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.06.07.img.xz a try, usb mass storage seems to work with that Jun 07 13:04:25 k. Jun 07 13:04:43 did you see the question from joelagnel Jun 07 13:06:07 I saw some rambling about building kernels in the broken SDK way, which I ignored Jun 07 13:06:24 I don't care about the SDK and it's stupid political bullshit crippling Jun 07 13:07:30 s for stupid? Jun 07 13:08:56 well, that was just one question I think :-D Jun 07 13:09:05 of the many Jun 07 13:11:53 koen: one of the things joelagnel tried to do was to follow the Angstrom setup-scripts and it still built the wrong kernel. Jun 07 13:12:52 could anyone experience with ad-hoc wlan with beaglebone suggest me a chipset or any wifi doggle model that works fine with beaglebone Jun 07 13:13:31 angs: I've only used it as infrastructure. Jun 07 13:13:38 joelagnel: are you trying the image above now? Jun 07 13:14:11 jkridner_: what chipset do you use? Jun 07 13:14:16 jkridner_, joelagnel: setup-scripts haven't built 3.2.14 by default for about a month now Jun 07 13:14:57 jkridner_, well I could, but till 20 minutes back I had fixed the issue in the software myself Jun 07 13:15:22 I will give it a run, my SD card is having errors anyway so I'll startover Jun 07 13:16:10 koen, err. so then I'm looking at the wrong recipe? https://github.com/Angstrom-distribution/meta-ti/blob/master/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-ti33x-psp_3.2.bb Jun 07 13:16:25 angs: I've had success with http://www.adafruit.com/products/814 and another rtl81somethingsomething chipset. Jun 07 13:17:04 joelagnel: I don't think setup-scripts would pull from there. Jun 07 13:18:14 joelagnel: looking at https://github.com/Angstrom-distribution/setup-scripts/blob/master/sources/layers.txt Jun 07 13:18:28 it would pull from git.yoctoproject.org, not github Jun 07 13:18:41 git://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-ti Jun 07 13:18:43 sure, yeah Jun 07 13:18:50 ok Jun 07 13:19:11 jkridner_ what image did u use for rtl8192cu on adafruit? Jun 07 13:19:33 it was an older image. Jun 07 13:19:50 something from around February/March, I think. Jun 07 13:20:10 thank you Jun 07 13:20:51 I know there is a USB regression we are working on fixing (mostly koen) Jun 07 13:21:03 I have the same chipset, I tried with the latest image but I could not make it work Jun 07 13:21:23 I need to use it in ad hoc mode, but connman does not support ad hoc mode Jun 07 13:21:49 jkridner_, koen, ok I thought setup-scripts pulled the latest. I'll updated my layers.txt then with the latest meta-ti rev from yocto Jun 07 13:21:51 hope that's k Jun 07 13:22:09 could you recommend me any instruction apart from http://ladyada.net/products/beaglebone/wifi.html Jun 07 13:23:23 joelagnel: just keep your setupscripts up to date and keep an eye on the meta-ti list for patches Jun 07 13:23:48 koen, ok Jun 07 13:24:11 danke Jun 07 13:51:16 download complete. SD card being written. Jun 07 14:26:04 well I got my Angstrom Build from http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/ working... created an sd card, it booted, got logged into x11 now I just have to build a boot.scr file so my display comes up at higher than 640x480 :) Jun 07 14:26:17 got lots of help from here :) so I am happy :) Jun 07 14:30:06 use uEnv.txt, boot.scr is outdated Jun 07 14:37:06 * ogra_ likes to see boot.scr as a provider for distro defaults and uEnv.txt as the users tool to override these :) Jun 07 14:37:29 at least for cases where you dont have flash Jun 07 14:38:12 just add one or two lines to u-boot and use a uDistroEnv.txt Jun 07 14:38:22 in addition to uEnv.txt Jun 07 14:38:43 those scripts are uncomfortable Jun 07 14:38:57 well, i'm to lazy to rewrite all ubuntu image generation scripts :) Jun 07 14:39:17 we'll likely keep boot.scr around and just update the docs for endusers to use uEnv.txt Jun 07 14:40:54 or put the stuff you have in boot.scr into uEnv.txt Jun 07 14:41:03 can't be that much Jun 07 14:41:27 nah, its 4 lines Jun 07 14:42:17 you could even use uenvcmd=env import -t uDistroEnv.txt ;) Jun 07 14:42:30 (in uEnv.txt) Jun 07 14:43:13 preferable with an -r, but that requires a dead patch which could be found in the ml Jun 07 14:44:12 sure, but that still means i need to hack around in the image build infrastructure Jun 07 14:44:39 and that i need to convince debian to take my changes to flash-kernel etc Jun 07 14:44:55 as long as it works as is my lazyness wins Jun 07 14:44:55 okie doke, I'll take a moment to absorb all that... :) Jun 07 14:45:35 setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 omapfb.mode=dvi:1360x768MR-16@60 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext3 rootwait' Jun 07 14:45:52 that is what I was going to put in boot.scr Jun 07 14:46:23 i can put that in the uEnv.txt instead? Jun 07 14:47:33 you need only one line in uEnv.txt: dvimode=1024x768-16@60 Jun 07 14:47:52 what aholler said Jun 07 14:48:02 or whatever you want as resolution Jun 07 14:54:30 did I really see a patch for letting perl to build with directories with 't' in them? Jun 07 14:54:39 * Crofton|irssi has been dumping email hard this week Jun 07 14:57:33 what is the difference between Y Cb Cr and Y Pb Pr signals? Jun 07 14:58:30 iirc there are some good wikipedia articles for HDMI colorspace Jun 07 15:16:28 jkridner_: do you still have usb issues? there were patches merged to meta-ti some time back... Jun 07 15:17:01 I just burned the latest SD card and will test here when this call ends. Jun 07 15:17:13 great Jun 07 15:19:58 thank you Jun 07 15:20:08 sorry working here, so doing the chat thing when I can :) Jun 07 15:20:11 so thank you :) Jun 07 15:20:20 and :) Jun 07 15:26:33 denix, jkridner_ , checked, no usb storage issues with koen's image Jun 07 15:26:54 sweet. are you trying the auto-tester now? Jun 07 15:27:05 and what is koen's image? Jun 07 15:27:49 did you get a pre-built one? Jun 07 15:41:35 denix: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.06.07.img.xz Jun 07 15:43:29 ok Jun 07 15:50:16 Hello koen, I was looking for your custom images for Beagleboard ... Could you link me to that? Jun 07 15:50:45 http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ Jun 07 15:51:15 Eh Jun 07 15:51:30 Ok, thanks Jun 07 15:53:09 koen: Um, I thought you had Ubuntu custom images Jun 07 15:53:28 the Narcissus file I created was supposed to have the cool 3d graphic demos on it, ( which it does ) only none of them will run... Jun 07 15:54:19 I was hoping to show off my beagleboard xM to some folks... but when I tried to run them from Graphics menu item, (3dskull) for instance, the screen blanks out, and then the gui pops back up... Jun 07 15:54:25 but it does not run... :) Jun 07 15:55:07 is there anyting special i need to do? I thought that the narcissus did all the config for the files it creates, or is there still some tweeking... :) Jun 07 15:58:48 orated, i think you mean rcn-ee, he does the home built ubuntu images with custom kernels (the official ubuntu images only use plain mainline kernels nowadays) Jun 07 15:59:22 ogra_: Yes, I'm gonna try rcn-ee images Jun 07 16:13:34 hmm... koen, joelagnel, I have a an A3 board where I just loaded this new 06.07 image and I have no USB device detection at all. Jun 07 16:13:52 I get hub detection, but nothing else. Jun 07 16:20:24 jkridner_: hmmm, kipisz reported something similar Jun 07 16:20:40 jkridner_: It does work on the A3 and A5 boards here Jun 07 16:20:47 I have A5, I also have problem with usb Jun 07 16:21:23 dsa: this is only in reference to the 06.07 image as recent images ahead of this time have known issues. Jun 07 16:23:06 I used to have problem with wifi doggle therefore I also installed 06.07 image. I used to have green light on the wifi doggle, now it does not work although I installed the linux-firmware Jun 07 16:59:59 joelagnel: I'm looking for next steps. Are you able to reproduce any failure? Jun 07 17:01:18 plz give exact steps Jun 07 17:03:32 Use 06.07 image, insert USB device (MSC or WiFi), observe nothing via 'dmesg' or 'lsusb'. :) Jun 07 17:12:01 joelagnel: ping Jun 07 17:35:57 What's the most recent BeagleBone kernel? The one from koenkooi's github? Jun 07 17:42:52 Pulsewidth: pretty much. depends on what you mean by "most recent". it is more like "most advanced". Jun 07 17:43:12 Best hardware support Jun 07 17:43:17 it is the most recent as well, but you can probably hobble together something closer to mainline. Jun 07 17:43:41 yeah, that'd be koen's, but the one that is built by http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Jun 07 17:43:47 That's good Jun 07 17:43:57 That works well for me, but Angstrom has some weird build system Jun 07 17:44:04 not any git tree that koen has for a straight kernel. Jun 07 17:44:07 So it's much less hassle if I can get it from a single git repo Jun 07 17:44:14 yeah, koen uses that weird build system. Jun 07 17:44:30 I understand having a single git repo is easier if all you are doing is building a kernel. Jun 07 17:44:53 unfortunately, there isn't an up-to-date single git repo that tracks that kernel. Jun 07 17:45:05 jkridner_, was out for lunch, I am working on getting the beagelbone test scripts working with the new image Jun 07 17:45:19 I don't know much about journald but koen helped me retrieve logs Jun 07 17:45:45 Pulsewidth: there is a regression in the USB host code that is currently being resolved. koen has a fix that has worked on some boards, but it isn't working on mine. Jun 07 17:46:14 I had problems with USB on Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.05.09.img.xz Jun 07 17:46:20 joelagnel: any idea what info I can give you on my USB failure? seems odd that it is random which boards it fails upon. Jun 07 17:46:29 Pulsewidth: yeah, breakage happened around that time. Jun 07 17:46:29 But I updated with opkg and it's working with the latest kernel Jun 07 17:46:44 the fix was put in very recently. Jun 07 17:46:56 * jkridner_ tries opkg update, in case it wasn't in the 06.07 image. Jun 07 17:47:00 jkridner_, the fix is enabling CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND? Jun 07 17:48:27 joelagnel: is it in the 06.07 image or did you use something else? Jun 07 17:48:33 06.07 Jun 07 17:48:51 I used that one, USB works fine on A6. not random Jun 07 17:49:10 I have an A3 at home. I will try giving it a shot in a few hours Jun 07 17:49:13 BTW, opkg upgrade failed the first time because of running out of space on /tmp Jun 07 17:49:26 joelagnel: but nothing changed in the USB circuit, right? Jun 07 17:49:27 I mounted a NFS /tmp and it worked Jun 07 17:49:45 jkridner_, let me check with Gerald, I don't think so Jun 07 17:49:50 Pulsewidth: that's a good bit of advice. most people end up failing trying to do 'opkg upgrade' Jun 07 18:17:14 jkridner_: https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel Jun 07 18:17:35 as I recall, that is *not* a git tree of the kernel. Jun 07 18:18:06 19:44 < jkridner_> unfortunately, there isn't an up-to-date single git repo that tracks that kernel. Jun 07 18:18:15 it is fine and helpful, but I don't trust it relative to using Angstrom, since it has most of the same disadvantages. Jun 07 18:18:16 it's a git repo that tracks the kernel Jun 07 18:18:28 it is not 'single' Jun 07 18:18:34 it relies on external git trees. Jun 07 18:19:41 it does Jun 07 18:19:58 anything that isn't mainline relies on external git trees Jun 07 18:20:12 some git trees include all of the commits in the mainline. Jun 07 18:20:31 they still need to pull in mainline somehow Jun 07 18:20:34 some git trees have commitids that match the mainline. Jun 07 18:20:54 but they have already done it, before you clone it. Jun 07 18:21:08 it's still a dependency Jun 07 18:21:14 I really don't get why it is difficult to understand how it makes life easier for a kernel builder. Jun 07 18:21:37 I'm not saying your approach is wrong. Jun 07 18:21:42 it is just more difficult to use. Jun 07 18:21:47 but you keep bitching about it Jun 07 18:22:03 I just said it is unfortunately difficult. Jun 07 18:22:20 I used to provide git trees ready to clone Jun 07 18:22:29 that ends up in: Jun 07 18:22:34 "how do I configure it" Jun 07 18:22:49 "how do I compile it?" Jun 07 18:22:53 if you have a fork, you can include a defconfig. Jun 07 18:22:59 "I compiled it, how do I install it?" Jun 07 18:23:19 "I don't have linux, send me the codez for windows" Jun 07 18:23:33 "i downloaded it, now how do i install a cross-compiler" Jun 07 18:23:51 we've been getting hit hard on the panda stuff for newbies like that Jun 07 18:23:56 ;) Jun 07 18:24:07 if running a script that clones a tree and applies patches is too difficult, you have no business in building a kernel yourself Jun 07 18:24:18 doh. back. Jun 07 18:25:02 it does create a barrier. it is a judgment call to say who should be able to perform the task. Jun 07 18:26:08 https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel is a turing test Jun 07 18:27:06 it took me about an hour to pull together a kernel build with it. using setup-scripts and OE was more automated for me. Jun 07 18:27:15 I found bugs with patch.sh. Jun 07 18:27:23 but, it wasn't obvious how to fix them. Jun 07 18:27:36 easy enough to work around them, but wasn't 100% automated. Jun 07 18:27:38 but you reported them in the github issue tracker, right? Jun 07 18:33:20 it doesn't matter how it is done, just publish the exact steps to build a kernel at beagleboard.org, keep the steps actual and don't rely on some wiki which gets outdated and will not get found Jun 07 18:33:37 my 2¢ Jun 07 18:34:20 but are there a single set of exact steps that suit everybody? Jun 07 18:35:11 yes, if the kernel itself is build on the board. Jun 07 18:35:43 compilation might need hours, but currently people need days to figure out how to do it Jun 07 18:37:59 not to speak how to install the kernel and the modules if they cross-compiled that stuff Jun 07 18:38:33 koen, there is no solution to stupid questions for end users Jun 07 18:38:33 or just switch user base ;) Jun 07 18:38:45 but, they are a critical part of our work Jun 07 18:39:20 koen: I need to verify that the version of 'git' isn't the reason for the issue. 'git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git .' failed for one of my machines. Jun 07 18:42:28 e.g. I never got a single question about http://ahsoftware.de/dockstar/#linux Jun 07 18:43:01 ok, maybe no one read it until that chapter or at all ;) Jun 07 18:45:18 switching user base is not an option Jun 07 18:50:46 hi jkridner, I have complied a new angstron kernel by following the steps provided on angstrom website. but there is no mtd or gpmc driver under the /dev folder. can you provide me with some information to get mtd drivers in angstrom Jun 07 18:51:48 Anyone know what kind of standoffs I should get to mount my Beaglebone inside of that nice little Altoids-like tin that it came with? Jun 07 18:52:22 chewing gum Jun 07 18:52:22 I'm kind of sick of having my 'bone dangling around my desk all naked Jun 07 18:52:53 put it in a rubber and it will be safe ;) Jun 07 18:53:05 someone had to say it Jun 07 18:54:49 Well, I suppose I could just glue it in there Jun 07 18:54:59 I'd rather use standoffs though Jun 07 18:55:58 riskable: rubber grommets, nylon spacers, go for it Jun 07 18:57:24 Well, for one of my RouterStation cases I cut little wooden squares which I drilled holes into and glued them to the bottom of my ghetto case then I screwed the RouterStation directly into those. That'd probably work for the 'bone to Jun 07 18:57:28 s/to/too Jun 07 18:58:54 or go advanced geeky with polymorph or sugru Jun 07 18:59:04 use popsycle sticks, poke holes through them Jun 07 19:00:00 saf Jun 07 19:00:14 oops dropped an apple on my keyboard.. Jun 07 19:00:38 hi jkridner__, I have complied a new angstrom kernel by following the steps provided on angstrom website. but there is no mtd or gpmc driver under the /dev folder. can you provide me with some information to get mtd drivers in angstrom Jun 07 19:01:25 Oooh, popsicle sticks are a great idea. Might need to use two stacked on top of each other though Jun 07 19:01:39 i rather like the rubber idea Jun 07 19:02:19 riskable, how about cutting a mouse pad to fit the inside Jun 07 19:02:24 of the tin Jun 07 19:02:32 they come in various thicknesses Jun 07 19:02:45 this think tank is on a roll now :) Jun 07 19:02:52 dead wood Jun 07 19:03:25 s/wood/trees/ Jun 07 19:03:33 hey i've got a quick question - i'd like to use the serial port on the xM to communicate to an arduino. I've got the common ground, rx, and tx pins set up. i also disabled ttyO2 for console in boot Jun 07 19:03:37 mouse pads come in various thicknesses, some spongy, others just plastic, both are easy to cut with sissors... Jun 07 19:03:58 Dhiraj: I don't think you actually want mtd drivers on the BeagleBone as there isn't an mtd device, but rather look at how the mtd is instantiated in the board.c file and instantiate your device. I guess it could be as an mtd device. Jun 07 19:04:11 schmidtbag: don't you need the CTS pin as well? Jun 07 19:04:35 i haven't tried it yet. i tie that to reset, correct? Jun 07 19:04:56 (arduino's reset) Jun 07 19:05:34 * jkridner_ must step away from the keyboard for about an hour. Jun 07 19:05:45 schmidtbag: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:D25_Null_Modem_Wiring.png Jun 07 19:07:20 jkridner: so, which device driver can provide access to gpmc devices? Jun 07 19:10:03 Dhiraj: I have to run an errand quickly, but http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.omap/66038 might be helpfu Jun 07 19:10:06 helpful even Jun 07 19:10:21 helpfoo Jun 07 19:13:39 sorry i got disconnected somehow. anyways, arduino doesn't have the cts pin Jun 07 19:14:47 schmidtbag, just came back, wnat to build a nullmodem ? Jun 07 19:15:20 no, i just want the built-in serial port to talk to the arduino directly Jun 07 19:15:51 that is a null modem Jun 07 19:15:54 schmidtbag, as long as there is no modem, it's the same thing. Jun 07 19:16:18 Beagle competition, my latest project. http://imagebin.org/215536 Jun 07 19:17:03 i'm not too familiar with now serial interfaces work. so what exactly do i need to do? Jun 07 19:18:10 schmidtbag, tx->rx, rx->tx gnd->gnd, done. a few may need 5 to 12v on dtr to not switch into powersave. Jun 07 19:19:25 schmidtbag, tell both sides to use soft-flow-control. Jun 07 19:19:58 lautriv, i have that set up that way but it simply doesn't do anything. i would like to point out that setserial says "UART: undefined, Port: 0x0000, IRQ: 74" Jun 07 19:20:19 well that is something else :) Jun 07 19:20:48 schmidtbag, this points out "no hardware present", check your drivers. Jun 07 19:22:03 hah i wasn't aware tty drivers could be missing from the kernel Jun 07 19:22:18 ttyO0 to ttyO3 show up Jun 07 19:22:43 it took me by surprise when they made the pc keyboard driver optional Jun 07 19:22:43 schmidtbag, big difference, tty is not ttyS or ttyO the latter refer to a port/hardware. Jun 07 19:23:12 schmidtbag, what gives dmesg ? Jun 07 19:23:33 what should i grep? Jun 07 19:23:45 that'll be a pretty long result Jun 07 19:24:00 schmidtbag, something including "serial" or "console" Jun 07 19:25:19 mru: have to free up the 1k of code that uses :) Jun 07 19:25:41 it makes sense to have it optional Jun 07 19:25:48 a lot of systems don't have such inputs Jun 07 19:25:55 so why force people to build the driver? Jun 07 19:26:48 I missed the fact it had been made optional and defaulted to off Jun 07 19:26:52 [ 1.503051] console [ttyO2] enabled Jun 07 19:27:04 so my shiny new kernel booted fine, but I was unable to do anything Jun 07 19:27:32 schmidtbag, what about O0 and O1 ? Jun 07 19:27:45 you wouldn't normally run a console on those Jun 07 19:27:53 you can of course, but most don't Jun 07 19:27:57 nope those didn't show up Jun 07 19:28:43 if i grep for serial, nothing shows up Jun 07 19:28:46 schmidtbag, just asked because you may look at the wrong wires ;). ok, did you set it up in either commandline or inittab ? Jun 07 19:30:15 it isn't in inittab and i don't have a commandline file Jun 07 19:30:33 unless commandline isn't in etc Jun 07 19:30:58 i'm using debian btw, if that matters Jun 07 19:31:02 wheezy Jun 07 19:31:12 schmidtbag, ok, because it complained about address 0x0000..............do you have the .config and sources around ? Jun 07 19:31:52 where would i find .config, in /root? Jun 07 19:32:05 because it isn't there Jun 07 19:32:10 i am signed on as root Jun 07 19:32:28 schmidtbag, either in your own kernel-sources or some /boot/config-$uname -r) Jun 07 19:33:58 i have config-3.2.13-x7 and config-3.2.0-psp6 Jun 07 19:34:11 schmidtbag, what gies uname -r ? probably 3.2.0-5-something Jun 07 19:34:48 its the x7 kernel Jun 07 19:35:54 schmidtbag, so "grep -i serial /boot/config-3.2.13-x7 should tell you something like CONFIG_SERIAL_OMAP= with m or y Jun 07 19:37:15 yup it says y, and there's also a CONFIG_SERIAL_OMAP_CONSOLE=y Jun 07 19:38:04 schmidtbag, that would be the next question. ok, do you have console=ttyO2,115200 or something in kernel's commandline Jun 07 19:39:40 its a little difficult to tell. there used to be a console variable which i deleted Jun 07 19:40:18 Popsicle sticks are drying :) Jun 07 19:40:23 but according to dmesg, the console is still set up Jun 07 19:40:25 somehow Jun 07 19:40:25 schmidtbag, then go to /etc/inittab line 63 and edit it to your needs. Jun 07 19:41:26 hm? Jun 07 19:41:49 ECHAN Jun 07 19:42:28 Do you think a rare earth magnet sitting right next to my Beaglebone would cause problems? Jun 07 19:42:57 sounds like a bad idea. Jun 07 19:43:14 riskable: what flavor, it matters you know . . . Jun 07 19:43:28 The generic little disc kind Jun 07 19:43:43 riskable, rather some HF like BT/wireless and friends, old drilling machines .......... but not the earth Jun 07 19:43:49 It would be so I could stick my little tin to the side of a rack to have it stay put :) Jun 07 19:44:43 then there is velcro, zip ties, duct tape Jun 07 19:45:45 zip ties ftw Jun 07 19:45:46 :P Jun 07 19:46:03 Definitely a little cheaper than a rare earth magnet. Jun 07 19:46:18 and leaves the tin can more usable later Jun 07 19:46:38 unless the magnet is simply stuck to the can Jun 07 19:57:15 riskable: have a look at http://builttospecstore.storenvy.com/collections/54995-beaglebone Jun 07 19:58:13 looks like lexan Jun 07 20:02:12 strong stuff, my robot has lexan track holders Jun 07 20:02:29 and component mtg decks Jun 07 20:07:59 I am trying to use bitbake to compile systemd-image. It gives me error saying expansion error during parsing. I think OPIE_SRCREV might be the problem. Can some one help me Jun 07 20:09:14 koen: Thanks for that link. For $12 it is probably worth it to just order one Jun 07 20:11:28 Hello forum... we want to migrate from Microchip MCU's to ARM processors. So we want to use the BeagleBone together with TI code composer studio and no OS. Any good tips on how to program the device? JTAG emulator/debugger? Jun 07 20:12:53 riskable: the postman dropped of 5 of those today :) Jun 07 20:13:09 koen: Awesome. What are you going to do with them? Jun 07 20:15:16 read sensor values via AD converters, do realtime DSP and store on SD card or transmit via TCP/IP. The software is quite simple, and most of it is already working fine on the Microchip MCU's, we just need something much much faster for next generation Jun 07 20:17:56 basically we have most of the software, just need to find the best way to program and debug the AM335x processor Jun 07 20:18:03 riskable: but beaglebones in them :) Jun 07 20:18:07 put* Jun 07 20:18:37 the beagleKennel Jun 07 20:19:16 koen: i kinda expected you would makerbot a holder Jun 07 20:19:46 djlewis: I was planning to, then I decided to upgrade my bot Jun 07 20:20:09 Has anyone set seen that , Symbol: EXPERT [=EXPERT] Type : unknown ? Jun 07 20:20:10 djlewis: and now I'm moving, so the makerbot is on a big box right now ready for shipping Jun 07 20:20:25 good move I hope Jun 07 20:21:15 from an appartment to a real house with multiple floors Jun 07 20:21:23 ooh... Jun 07 20:21:24 djlewis: btw, I have one of these now: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeBoPr_Cape Jun 07 20:21:28 if I copy my rowboat sources to a new folder an resync it will remove all the patched files right? Jun 07 20:22:06 koen: That's so basic. You're not going to mod them with screwed-on LCDs or anything? hehe Jun 07 20:23:17 riskable: the ones without DVI are going to be used for https://cosm.com/users/koenkooi Jun 07 20:31:05 jkridner_: the link was useful but as i am getiing to know the beaglebone. it seem like there is no gpmc device driver for beaglebone. is this correct? Jun 07 20:38:00 Woot got a one wire sensor working :) Jun 07 20:38:32 KeatonT: over the hurdles now? Jun 07 20:46:00 https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel looks much simpler than the BitBake stuff, thanks Jun 07 20:46:39 Hi guys - I lost whole afternoon installing D-Link Atheros support in beaglebone Angstrom Jun 07 20:46:41 hehe Jun 07 20:47:11 Has anybody Idea How should I do it to be succesfull at the end ? Jun 07 20:48:36 I see connman is there, wifi is enabled in connman/settings but with ./test-connman services I get only: * Wired { ethernet_d494a18b1a36_cable } Jun 07 20:48:58 Dhiraj: sorta... there's nothing connected to the GPMC on the BeagleBone by default, so there is no reason to create an instance. Jun 07 20:49:22 koen: ever thought about adding some apps the narcissus builds to just confuse people? Jun 07 20:49:23 you are likely confusing the driver code with an instance. I'm sure there is better Linux terminology. Jun 07 20:50:11 prpplague, stop laughing at me :P Jun 07 20:50:56 Borillion: it was directed at Pulsewidth 's comment - "looks much simpler than the BitBake stuff, thanks" Jun 07 20:51:18 I know I was kidding P Jun 07 20:51:22 :P Jun 07 20:52:06 ahh ok Jun 07 20:54:28 so nobody has ever seen Symbol: EXPERT [=EXPERT] Type : unknown Jun 07 21:15:03 jkridner_: the existing gpmc code isn't a driver…just some helper functions for architecture specific portions of drivers to set up the gpmc Jun 07 21:16:04 Hello all, I am using the example "processing-dynamic-view" that comes in the cloud9 IDE, to plot the data on "ain1". However, there seems to be a slight hiccup or delay in the data every so often. Does anyone know what causes this hiccup? It happens very noticeably when we alter the "delay" located in "configure.js" lower than 50ms, and hardly at all with a delay over 100ms. Jun 07 21:16:24 jkridner_, any knowledge about EXPERT mode? Jun 07 21:16:28 Dhiraj: there's information in yesterday's logs about gpmc..somebody else just asked a similar question Jun 07 21:16:54 Borillion: that is only for experts Jun 07 21:17:14 and apparently you are not one Jun 07 21:17:35 I know that mru, why am I seeing that menuconfig says Symbol: EXPERT [=EXPERT] Type : unknown when I search it Jun 07 21:18:29 mru: never said I was, I know enough to be dangerous :P Jun 07 21:19:07 anyone that considers ones self an expert has obviously given up on learning Jun 07 21:19:17 like my knowledge of chemistry? Jun 07 21:19:54 I'm pretty sure I could concoct something nasty Jun 07 21:20:33 sounds like my first mixed drink at age 14 Jun 07 21:20:59 I was in the chemistry lab all to my self :) Jun 07 21:21:09 adults were in the living room Jun 07 21:21:20 * Borillion packs up the thermite Jun 07 21:24:57 we had to oxidize iron filings in chem. I used electrolysis and left it over the weekend, in hindsight that was the worst idea ever. There was a perfectly round hole burned through the counter-top when the professor came back. Never should do experiments on surfaces that are not meant for it. Jun 07 21:27:30 hello, i just ordered a beagle board, and I want to get into robotics with it. Jun 07 21:27:37 sounds like a excellent way to drill nice round holes though Jun 07 21:27:46 what kind of robot platforms are avaliable for this platform Jun 07 21:27:56 imagination Jun 07 21:28:04 djlewis, and burn down buildings :P Jun 07 21:28:23 oh, no extra charge for the side effect Jun 07 21:29:24 Borillion: press / in menuconfig and enter expert Jun 07 21:31:28 aholler thats exactly what I did Jun 07 21:31:42 │ Symbol: EXPERT [=EXPERT] │ Jun 07 21:31:42 │ Type : unknown Jun 07 21:32:07 I have a new sync in a different folder Im going to attempt it there Jun 07 21:32:12 one moment Jun 07 21:32:17 * Borillion crosses fingers Jun 07 21:34:13 same thing on a new sync Symbol: EXPERT [=EXPERT] │ Jun 07 21:34:13 │ Type : unknown Jun 07 21:34:25 :\ why me Jun 07 21:36:08 and you haven't edited your config by hand? Jun 07 21:36:52 move .config away and try again to search for expert Jun 07 21:37:30 aholler I deleted it plus pulled a new repo sync to a different folder Jun 07 21:37:34 both show that Jun 07 21:37:50 repo sync? Jun 07 21:37:56 go #android Jun 07 21:38:12 uh ok Jun 07 21:38:43 its just a method to get the sources Jun 07 21:38:49 nothing special Jun 07 21:38:58 if they don't know experts, it's their problem Jun 07 21:40:59 clone a kernel from kernel.org and search there how experts are looking Jun 07 21:42:24 aholler my only thought is that this is removed from the android kernel or something Jun 07 21:42:46 Im going to clone googles for the Nexus line and take a look there Jun 07 21:43:44 at least stop asking that stuff here without even mentioning android. it gets boring. Jun 07 21:44:06 rofl Jun 07 21:44:11 sorry Jun 07 21:44:12 aholler: but boring is consistent with his nick Jun 07 21:44:23 I should have mentioned that Jun 07 21:44:26 Ah-Hemm... Jun 07 21:44:31 mru what do you mean ? Jun 07 21:44:36 :P Jun 07 21:44:50 common prefix... Jun 07 21:45:29 this is a beagleboard channel no ? I figured it was a appropriate place to ask Jun 07 21:45:34 file a bug at google and write there you want to know what an expert is Jun 07 21:45:46 and i thought mru left the t off his Jun 07 21:46:31 <_troll_> t for troll? Jun 07 21:47:42 google deleted the expert, what a joke ;) Jun 07 21:48:24 aholler seriously ? Jun 07 21:50:16 a serious joke Jun 07 21:50:22 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plenken Jun 07 21:53:35 why not just call it french spacing? makes it immediately obvious that it's wrong :) Jun 07 21:55:45 grabbing the pandaboard kernel to see it it has expert Jun 07 22:01:52 mru: political correct should that named freedom spacing Jun 07 22:03:10 ;) Jun 07 22:07:49 free the fries, the toasts and the spaces ;) Jun 07 22:15:22 Great little temp sensor from what I can tell. Jun 07 22:15:27 The DS18B20 Jun 07 22:15:33 Works well with the Arduino. Jun 07 22:26:55 Borillion: btw. maybe you should read again what I've written in the morning about expert. Jun 07 22:29:03 morning ~14h before Jun 07 22:32:33 you said its always on if you your not expert Jun 07 22:33:24 seems that its not and/or something else is up, I have met all the requirements for module to be included but its not Jun 07 22:33:25 shrug Jun 08 00:07:01 mdp: it seems like all that is needed is some configuration, then it is just a memory area. Jun 08 00:07:25 but thanks for clarifying. Jun 08 00:07:51 Borillion: EXPERT mode of what? Jun 08 00:08:28 kernel I got it working, I set in .config CONFIG_EXPPERT=y and its all happy now Jun 08 00:08:49 next one Im stuck on is !S390 Jun 08 00:10:23 Borillion, why ? Jun 08 00:10:30 I did get hits on virt/kvm/kvm_main.c:#ifndef CONFIG_S390 Jun 08 00:10:41 I have to have it for a driver to work Jun 08 00:10:58 sure ? Jun 08 00:15:09 lautriv, http://picbin.org/main/view/4fd14402db8104d234000001 Jun 08 00:16:01 lautriv, as you can see most requirements are met, I have expert and !S390, I put CONFIG_EXPERT=y in Jun 08 00:17:02 lautriv, I see CONFIG_S390 but is this the right one ... Jun 08 00:18:45 you miss the boolean point, this means NOT S390 AND INPUT which is met. Jun 08 00:20:44 right so where is TOUCHSCREEN_EGALAX_REVERSE it has not appeared Jun 08 00:22:04 Borillion, did you test if it appears when you select m for non-reverse ? Jun 08 00:22:30 I didn't good point Jun 08 00:23:55 no its either builtin or no, no M Jun 08 00:24:30 lautriv, would a link to the patch help any? Jun 08 00:25:21 Borillion, is it not in vanilla ? Jun 08 00:25:43 I patched it with this http://code.google.com/p/android-x86/issues/attachmentText?id=670&aid=6700000000&name=0001-Faytech-Automotive-Touchscreen&token=_DW0rzsb660Qt75chvo0wfIMIXw%3A1339115097477 Jun 08 00:25:47 its nothing too special Jun 08 00:26:09 wtf android-x86 ? Jun 08 00:26:19 its android rowboat lautriv I can not image that it would be to different Jun 08 00:31:13 some screwed version of android that runs on desktops lol Jun 08 00:39:38 Borillion, wb, wireless ? Jun 08 00:39:59 yea, I switched it off on accident lol Jun 08 00:40:02 thanks Jun 08 00:40:21 this is the first time I have had issues with menuconfig Jun 08 00:42:11 Borillion, from what you gave me, there is just one little thing : the patch mentiones twice to depend on egalax. further, there is only "USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD" set for the parent. no word about !S390 i assume your patck fails on another Kconfig not taken into account. Jun 08 00:42:34 s/ck/ch Jun 08 00:44:00 I dunno what you mean by s/ck/ch Jun 08 00:44:16 my typo patck -> patch Jun 08 00:44:47 yes that I got, rowboat has egalax Jun 08 00:45:31 its just that I need that one part that reverses things CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_USB_EGALAX_REVERSE Jun 08 00:46:26 "The eGalax OEM touch controller chips (0x0eef:0x0001 version 01xx) Jun 08 00:46:26 have their MSB / LSB packets reversed from the Documentation" Jun 08 00:46:45 when I touch the top left the touch point shows as top right Jun 08 00:46:53 sure but it doesn't appear because of some Kconfig, where the patched one (drivers/input/touchscreen/Kconfig) is not alone and doesn't even mention !S390 so i assume this patch forgot something else in another Kconfig Jun 08 00:47:05 hmm Jun 08 00:48:18 jkridner_, right. the fun part is knowing what to configure Jun 08 00:48:44 gpmc = on; ;-) Jun 08 00:48:54 you may change line 30 of that patch to default = y and see if it appears in .config but i assume it's superseded. Jun 08 00:49:45 lol. yes, I know everybody thinks they can just send the on cmd to a "driver" Jun 08 00:52:03 lautriv if i resync the repo will it remove all the patches? Jun 08 00:52:54 Borillion, there is no need for, just edit drivers/input/touchscreen/Kconfig Jun 08 00:53:13 ahh k Jun 08 00:56:00 ok done Jun 08 00:56:08 so just menuconfig again I assume Jun 08 00:56:19 no, just oldconfig Jun 08 00:56:45 kk Jun 08 00:57:19 this is not meant to give you a menu ( which failed somewhere else) but to select it by default IF not superseded by another Kconfig. Jun 08 00:57:40 scripts/kconfig/conf --oldconfig Kconfig Jun 08 00:57:40 .config:997:warning: override: reassigning to symbol TOUCHSCREEN_USB_EGALAX_REVERSE Jun 08 00:58:01 how do check that it got selected, just build and try? Jun 08 00:58:26 grep EGALAX .config Jun 08 00:59:40 great, CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_USB_EGALAX=y CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_USB_EGALAX_REVERSE=y Jun 08 00:59:53 will try now thanks for your help lautriv Jun 08 01:00:00 see if this happens or not :P Jun 08 01:00:11 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7323462/Screen%20Shot%202012-06-07%20at%207.59.13%20PM.png Jun 08 01:00:12 :) Jun 08 01:00:19 w1 working perfectly. Jun 08 01:21:36 whats the best way to create an .img file of one of my sd cards? Jun 08 01:22:01 i want to back up the sd card I got with my beagle board. Jun 08 01:22:54 waltermixxx, dd Jun 08 01:23:02 dd? Jun 08 01:23:30 lautriv compiling, will or should cat /proc/modules show me if it loaded? Jun 08 01:23:37 or dmesg Jun 08 01:24:03 Borillion, both but lsmod would be even simpler Jun 08 01:24:04 nothing showed up in the ubuntu software selector called DD Jun 08 01:24:28 waltermixxx, oh, i assumed you use linux. Jun 08 01:24:38 he he... new to this :) Jun 08 01:24:40 but learning Jun 08 01:25:12 disk doubler? Disk Duplicator? Disk ... :) am I getting close? :) Jun 08 01:25:25 waltermixxx, dd if=/dev/yourcarddevice bs=1M of=/some.img Jun 08 01:25:45 waltermixxx, and it's DirectDrive Jun 08 01:25:46 i type that in the terminal Jun 08 01:25:55 direct drive :) ok Jun 08 01:25:57 i can google that Jun 08 01:26:08 bs=1M? Jun 08 01:26:25 so my device is /dev/mmcblk0 Jun 08 01:26:35 waltermixxx, got me wrong, that's not the name that's the RAW functionality bs is blocksize. Jun 08 01:26:55 oh... Jun 08 01:27:03 if i do a df -h Jun 08 01:27:34 will this back up both partitions? and create an image much like those on the web ? Jun 08 01:27:49 (where the different beagle board images are kept) Jun 08 01:27:56 with the .img file Jun 08 01:28:28 so the command line would be: Jun 08 01:28:38 waltermixxx, the result will be an image, in other words a copy of the whole content, including partitioning. Jun 08 01:28:56 dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1M of=/backup.img Jun 08 01:29:03 yep Jun 08 01:29:09 ok cool :) Jun 08 01:29:15 that is very helpful Jun 08 01:29:25 I will also google the dd command Jun 08 01:29:30 thanks thats a great start Jun 08 01:29:30 :) Jun 08 01:29:49 the partitions should be mounted or unmounted? Jun 08 01:29:57 unmounted I am guesing Jun 08 01:30:12 waltermixxx, it will tell you an error on the end, because you will copy as long as there is no space behind. that is normal. Jun 08 01:30:40 mount doesn't matter if you can ensure nothing acts on the drive, umount if not sure. Jun 08 01:31:24 is it ok to use the 1M block size? Jun 08 01:31:33 or do I need to find out what the block size is? Jun 08 01:31:44 dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1M of=/backup.img Jun 08 01:32:01 gonna try this and see wht happens. :) Jun 08 01:32:06 waltermixxx, that is the amount of cache dd will use, regardless of the real blocksize, the smaller, the slower Jun 08 01:32:20 ok :) Jun 08 01:33:20 * lautriv went to bed, laters dudes. Jun 08 01:33:36 thanks again Jun 08 01:34:23 waltermixxx, next step would be to install a decent distro :P Jun 08 01:34:37 this is correct :) Jun 08 01:34:50 i did the narcissus thing Jun 08 01:34:55 and created one. Jun 08 01:35:10 now I just have to mess with the uEnv.txt file Jun 08 01:35:28 to set the proper default resolution Jun 08 01:35:29 :) Jun 08 01:35:34 I got access denied Jun 08 01:35:40 when i tried the dd command line Jun 08 01:35:55 i think i forogt to unount the two partitions Jun 08 01:35:58 will try it agian Jun 08 01:37:09 hmmm Jun 08 01:37:14 still getting permission denied Jun 08 01:37:24 hmmm Jun 08 01:37:30 will google it Jun 08 01:38:29 i think i need a sudo in there. Jun 08 01:38:30 :) Jun 08 01:38:33 will try again Jun 08 01:41:47 looks like its doing something Jun 08 01:41:48 :) Jun 08 01:42:01 prompted for password Jun 08 01:42:09 now I have a flashing cursor Jun 08 01:42:10 :) Jun 08 01:45:37 sup Jun 08 01:46:15 anyone here powering a beaglebone using batteries ? Jun 08 01:46:20 in HDMI cable, there are 3 channels to transmit video, is the data transmitted parallelly in all the 3 channels and what is the exact data sent like Y Cb Cr data or what data exactly? Jun 08 02:01:11 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Communication_channel_protocols Jun 08 02:58:39 /!/help Jun 08 02:59:00 oops **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jun 08 02:59:59 2012