**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 17 02:59:59 2012
Jun 17 04:12:37 <snelly> are there any known issues with the USB port on the BeagleBone?
Jun 17 04:12:51 <snelly> i'm referring to the full-sized port, not the little mini-USB that the serial console runs on
Jun 17 04:13:11 <snelly> i'm having a terrible time getting this usb-serial adapter to work on it
Jun 17 08:19:39 <heeen> snelly: do you supply the board with external power or only via the mini usb
Jun 17 08:19:49 <heeen> because that might not be neough for some usb devices
Jun 17 08:23:53 <solrize> any idea what's going on with beaglebone inventories?  is a significant new board rev in the works?  is it true the beaglebone has no real time clock?  thanks.
Jun 17 10:36:24 <mru> yes it's true, it has only a fake-time clock
Jun 17 11:37:22 <_av500_> solrize: there is never inventory
Jun 17 11:37:35 <_av500_> its a successful product, so why should it sit on shelves?
Jun 17 11:39:16 <dm8tbr> because!!!11!eleven!
Jun 17 11:41:11 <dm8tbr> _av500_: was there something on lgf that still needed attention? I lost track.
Jun 17 12:04:07 <_av500_> no
Jun 17 12:04:14 <_av500_> bitlbee sucks
Jun 17 12:04:21 <_av500_> at least that version
Jun 17 12:05:40 <dm8tbr> let me pul that in on lgf tomorrow then
Jun 17 12:05:42 <mru> it sucks less than pidgin...
Jun 17 12:06:16 <dm8tbr> as I can't update that sucky version
Jun 17 12:06:19 <_av500_> it randomly drops gtalk nicks
Jun 17 12:06:26 <mru> mine doesn't
Jun 17 12:07:05 <_av500_> ver?
Jun 17 12:07:53 <_av500_> dm8tbr: if you can drop a newer version on lgf, that would be nice
Jun 17 15:27:01 <waltermixxx_> howdy all
Jun 17 15:27:02 <waltermixxx_> :)
Jun 17 15:28:34 <waltermixxx_> Mr. prpplague,  just wondering... when the trainer board is plugged in,  the /sys/class/gpio folder contains a bunch of directories for each gpio, the ones represented on the trainer board...
Jun 17 15:28:58 <waltermixxx_> when the board is not pluggedin, they are gone...
Jun 17 15:29:46 <_troll_> finally, http://trollcon.de/
Jun 17 15:30:03 <waltermixxx_> the little rom on the board I know is in charge of setting mux for the port... as part of this does it create the directories?
Jun 17 15:30:26 <aholler> _troll_: hmm, I know them ;)
Jun 17 15:30:34 <waltermixxx_> once once created, why do they dissappear once it's shut down, and started up again without the beagleboard trainer xm? :)
Jun 17 15:31:15 <waltermixxx_> eeek gotta run, will ask again once I get back to my pc :)
Jun 17 15:31:21 <waltermixxx_> happy father's day folks :)
Jun 17 15:31:47 <aholler> waltermixxx_: try buddy=trainer
Jun 17 15:33:10 <aholler> or trainerboard, just look at the sources
Jun 17 17:54:59 <a4able> hi guys whats the difference btw usb port in beagleboard xm and beaglebone
Jun 17 17:57:46 <a4able_> jh
Jun 17 17:58:08 <a4able> hi
Jun 17 17:58:31 <a4able> hi guys whats the difference btw usb port in beagleboard xm and beaglebone
Jun 17 18:06:58 <a4able> flo-lap hi guys whats the difference btw usb port in beagleboard xm and beaglebone
Jun 17 18:09:34 <a4able> mru whats the difference btw usb port in beagleboard xm and beaglebone
Jun 17 18:10:14 <mru> so you're one of those who pounces on anyone who enters the channel, repeating the same question over and over
Jun 17 18:10:21 <mru> such people don't get answers
Jun 17 18:10:46 <aleek> a4able: look up specs for both boards. and compare the usb-chips
Jun 17 18:11:11 <a4able> sorry guys nobody replied thats why sorry...
Jun 17 18:11:55 <aleek> that means that there is noone who knows the answer
Jun 17 18:12:07 <a4able> can i connect a usb camera to beaglebone as in beagleboard xm
Jun 17 18:12:48 <aleek> the question is, why you could NOT :>
Jun 17 18:13:45 <a4able> i read somewhere that the usb has limited capabilities in beaglebone and it is having a usb to serial converter
Jun 17 18:14:07 <a4able> i mean the usb present is a usb to serial converter
Jun 17 18:15:40 <aleek> if you dont power the board from pc via usb-otg, i think it *might* work
Jun 17 18:16:23 <aleek> every usb port must have 500mA, but if you power your board via otg, you have 500mA for the whole board
Jun 17 18:16:47 <aleek> I have ac/dc adapter with 2A
Jun 17 18:16:54 <aleek> and it works
Jun 17 18:17:26 <aleek> on the other hand, if you underpower your board, nothing will burn i think ;)
Jun 17 18:18:30 <a4able> the usb present is a fully functional usb just like a usb port in pc right
Jun 17 18:21:15 <a4able> what i want to process images of a usb webcam using opencv, can i do it in beaglebone
Jun 17 18:28:34 <gmpff> Hi all. On a a related note: has anyone experienced "strange" issues capturing images from a USB webcam on the beagle bone ?
Jun 17 18:29:04 <gmpff> And, by "strange", I mean that the camera works in Linux on my laptop and V4L picks it up (UVC) driver.
Jun 17 18:29:49 <gmpff> And I get all kinds of reasonable responses from the driver (i.e. can interrogate capabilities and set resolution and colour space). But completely unable to get *any* image data out of it.
Jun 17 19:10:31 <mru> gmpff: sounds like maybe isochronous mode is busted
Jun 17 19:12:38 <_av500_> it is
Jun 17 19:12:56 <mru> nothing ever changes
Jun 17 19:32:05 <_av500_> aye
Jun 17 19:45:14 <eren> yay, I've run my first code on beagle
Jun 17 19:45:34 <eren> it just prints ! to the console and hangs. Time to write a basic kernel
Jun 17 19:45:51 <eren> s/console/serial/
Jun 17 19:46:46 <aleek> eren: congratz:)
Jun 17 19:47:32 * mru suggests dropping the HCF
Jun 17 23:43:29 <p00t> I've recently purchased my BBone, and I overlooked the fact that there's not much documentation on programming in C.
Jun 17 23:44:06 <p00t> Currently going over the videos by Dr. Molloy, but does anyone know of any resources for accessing pins and such in C/C++?
Jun 17 23:44:15 <p00t> I mean text resources....
Jun 17 23:45:10 <W1N9Zr0> http://elinux.org/EBC_Exercise_02_Flashing_an_LED
Jun 17 23:45:12 <W1N9Zr0> http://elinux.org/EBC_Exercise_03_gpio_Polling_and_Interrupts
Jun 17 23:48:28 <p00t> thanks W1N9Zr0 I'll read those
Jun 18 00:12:33 <supaplex> what kind of spi programmers are available in Linux?  I have an arm5/6 based board I want to see if there's any gpl firmware on it.
Jun 18 01:51:40 <ak__> anybody know where the mux settings are under debian?
Jun 18 02:00:42 <KeatonT> ak__
Jun 18 02:00:45 <KeatonT> what's up?
Jun 18 02:01:21 <KeatonT> /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux
Jun 18 02:01:23 <KeatonT> btw
Jun 18 02:07:24 <KeatonT> ak__?
Jun 18 02:10:29 <jakeday> hey
Jun 18 02:10:46 <jakeday> KeatonT: are you the one i promised an overclock patch?
Jun 18 02:10:56 <KeatonT> I believe so.
Jun 18 02:11:02 <jakeday> ok good
Jun 18 02:11:02 <KeatonT> I also said not to worry about it.
Jun 18 02:11:03 <KeatonT> :P
Jun 18 02:11:14 <jakeday> i need to stop drinking so much or start loggin chats
Jun 18 02:11:16 <jakeday> lol
Jun 18 02:11:20 <KeatonT> haha
Jun 18 02:11:29 <supaplex> both ;)
Jun 18 02:11:53 <jakeday> so what speed did you want? or did you just want to know where to patch?
Jun 18 02:13:30 <KeatonT> jakeday nah don't worry about it.
Jun 18 02:13:54 <KeatonT> It's not on the top of my "stuff that needs to get done with the beaglebone" list.
Jun 18 02:16:12 <jakeday> http://4ndr01d.com/beaglebone/beaglebone_overclock.diff
Jun 18 02:16:18 <jakeday> there ya go
Jun 18 02:16:25 <jakeday> not like it was any trouble
Jun 18 02:16:54 <supaplex> remember kids, give turn it into a beagle boner by overclocking it ;)
Jun 18 02:17:00 <supaplex> s/give//
Jun 18 02:17:15 <jakeday> that just goes to 800mhz without messing with the voltages so it should be completely safe
Jun 18 02:17:23 <jakeday> and i've been running it much higher for longer
Jun 18 02:20:47 <sbma44> still fighting with wifi on the beaglebone. got the adapter from the adafruit tutorial, but no luck getting it to associate. looking at https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/beagleboard/wifi/beagleboard/o2B7LJq9u3U/D4u6FuP_ZrUJ it seems like I should have a wifi section when I run /usr/lib/connman/test/get-services
Jun 18 02:21:12 <sbma44> but all I get is this: http://pastie.org/4106166
Jun 18 02:22:04 <sbma44> content of /var/lib/connman/settings: http://pastie.org/4106169
Jun 18 02:22:09 <sbma44> no idea what the issue could be
Jun 18 02:24:10 <jakeday> angstrom
Jun 18 02:24:20 <KeatonT> lol
Jun 18 02:24:27 <KeatonT> I didn't dare say it.
Jun 18 02:24:34 <jakeday> had to go there lol
Jun 18 02:25:46 <ak__> hey KeatonT, I thought it would be that, but there's nothing in /sys/kernel/debug
Jun 18 02:26:02 <KeatonT> ah you need to mount it.
Jun 18 02:26:07 <KeatonT> hold on sec
Jun 18 02:26:12 <ak__> k
Jun 18 02:26:40 <KeatonT> mount -t debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug
Jun 18 02:27:07 <KeatonT> That should do it ak__
Jun 18 02:27:21 <KeatonT> might want to add it to auto mount.
Jun 18 02:28:38 <ak__> init.d?
Jun 18 02:31:11 <KeatonT> you can just run that command for now.
Jun 18 02:31:35 <ak__> yea, it worked, just not sure what you mean when you say add to auto mount
Jun 18 02:31:41 <KeatonT> For the future you want to add it to the fstab
Jun 18 02:31:54 <KeatonT> Just google fstab debian
Jun 18 02:32:07 <KeatonT> Should find something to tell you how it is done.
Jun 18 02:32:16 <jakeday> f'n stab debian?
Jun 18 02:32:17 <jakeday> :)
Jun 18 02:32:31 <KeatonT> yep indeed
Jun 18 02:32:34 <KeatonT> I
Jun 18 02:33:18 <KeatonT> I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to create some type of statistical algorithm to take the entry logs for my alarm system and intelligently decide when to run the HVAC system
Jun 18 02:34:02 <KeatonT> I basically need to create software that can using the historical and current data for entires/motion detection determine if someone is home.
Jun 18 02:34:04 <sbma44> jakeday: I'm pretty sick of Angstrom, I admit. Just need something with workable wifi and PWM. any suggestions?
Jun 18 02:34:13 <KeatonT> Issue is I have no freaking clue where to start.
Jun 18 02:34:21 <KeatonT> sbma44 you can install debian and still get PWM and wifi.
Jun 18 02:34:33 <KeatonT> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian
Jun 18 02:34:37 <jakeday> sbma44: either slackware or debian
Jun 18 02:34:48 <KeatonT> or ubuntu.
Jun 18 02:34:59 <jakeday> ubuntu is just debian for sissies
Jun 18 02:36:05 <sbma44> jakeday KeatonT thanks guys. I'll give debian a try.
Jun 18 02:36:38 <solrize> KeatonT, what? you know what times people arrived and left, and you want to know when they're likely to be home?
Jun 18 02:36:55 <KeatonT> solrize basically.
Jun 18 02:37:02 <jakeday> sounds easy enough
Jun 18 02:37:07 <sudoman> if i use a monitor that is taller than 720p, will the -xM automatically crop the screen output?
Jun 18 02:37:14 <KeatonT> or more specifically analyze the data to determine when they'll likely be gone.
Jun 18 02:39:50 <solrize> you want to turn the hvac on before they get home?
Jun 18 02:40:01 <solrize> if you just want to turn it off when they leave, then use the alarm event for that
Jun 18 02:40:10 <solrize> assuming nobody turns on the alarm when someone is still home
Jun 18 02:40:13 <supaplex> jakeday++ (ubuntu vs debian)
Jun 18 02:40:39 <jakeday> what?
Jun 18 02:40:53 <KeatonT> solrize I want it to be intelligent.
Jun 18 02:41:05 <supaplex> jakeday: rating your comment up.
Jun 18 02:41:17 <KeatonT> I want it to turn it off if it believes no one is home and turn it on before they get home so the house is cooled back down.
Jun 18 02:41:22 <jakeday> lol
Jun 18 02:41:47 <jakeday> slackware > debian > ubuntu > angstrom
Jun 18 02:44:26 <ak__> lfs?
Jun 18 02:45:09 <KeatonT> ?
Jun 18 02:45:30 <ak__> curious where linux from scratch falls in there?
Jun 18 02:45:30 <ak__> :D
Jun 18 02:47:42 <jakeday> slackware > debian > lfs > ubuntu > angstrom
Jun 18 02:48:17 <KeatonT> lol
Jun 18 02:50:34 <sudoman> what about gentoo for arm?
Jun 18 02:54:18 <jakeday> slackware > debian > lfs > ubuntu > gentoo > angstrom
Jun 18 02:54:50 <supaplex> dos 4.0?
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