**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 26 02:59:58 2012
Jun 26 05:29:57 <Borillion> uh what file permissions should boot.scr have?
Jun 26 05:33:35 <oxicl33n> if all else fails.chmod 777 lol
Jun 26 05:33:48 <Borillion> fails too
Jun 26 05:34:21 <Borillion> only works if I use the one from the rowboat prebuilt images, same boot args even
Jun 26 05:35:18 <Borillion> can't figure what else it would be
Jun 26 05:36:36 <oxicl33n> sorry dude im pretty noob to the beagle..my bone had broken Ethernet..finally got replacement
Jun 26 05:37:13 <Borillion> thanks its cool, congrats on getting it fixed
Jun 26 05:37:34 * Borillion isn't new but has lots of problems LOL
Jun 26 05:56:21 <Tamilarasi> hi all,ethernet is not working in beaglebone, Ip address and gateway is assigned properly.
Jun 26 05:56:45 <Tamilarasi> i couldn't found where is problem.
Jun 26 05:59:34 <Tamilarasi> solution pls..
Jun 26 06:08:29 <oxicl33n> rma
Jun 26 06:09:13 <oxicl33n> just had same problem
Jun 26 06:09:35 <oxicl33n> Got my replacement today. Updating atm. Send them email with serial number
Jun 26 06:17:35 <Tamilarasi> hi all,ethernet is not working in beaglebone, Ip address and gateway is assigned properly.
Jun 26 06:17:42 <Tamilarasi>  i couldn't found where is problem
Jun 26 06:17:50 <Tamilarasi>  solution pls..
Jun 26 06:18:38 <Borillion> Tamilarasi you have to return it
Jun 26 06:18:49 <Borillion> its defective it seems
Jun 26 07:17:57 <jgordo32> hello
Jun 26 07:18:05 <jgordo32> anybody active?
Jun 26 07:20:28 <av500> no
Jun 26 07:20:33 <av500> we are closed today
Jun 26 07:42:27 * koen is ready for friday
Jun 26 07:54:17 * stuk_gen fridayy nightt
Jun 26 07:59:06 <ynezz> comming soon, stay tuned
Jun 26 08:45:20 <stuk_gen> what type of file support ti-gstreamer?
Jun 26 08:47:55 <av500> none
Jun 26 08:48:08 <av500> its a set of codecs and a sink
Jun 26 08:48:14 <av500> no file parser at all
Jun 26 08:48:20 <av500> stock gst handles files
Jun 26 08:50:58 <stuk_gen> because i'm trying to play a mp3 file
Jun 26 08:51:04 <stuk_gen> and i can play well with mplayer
Jun 26 08:51:10 <av500> then you dont need ti-gst at all
Jun 26 08:51:16 <av500> since it has no mp3 decoder
Jun 26 08:51:24 <stuk_gen> i'm using qt phonon
Jun 26 08:51:34 <stuk_gen> but but can't play mp3
Jun 26 08:51:41 <stuk_gen> what i need to play mp3?
Jun 26 08:52:27 <stuk_gen> i don't understand mplayer works...but qt phonon no...
Jun 26 08:53:19 <stuk_gen> av500: so what its the use of ti-gst?
Jun 26 08:53:21 <koen> query av500
Jun 26 08:58:27 <stuk_gen> av500: so i need a decoder?
Jun 26 08:58:38 <av500> gst has mp3 decoders
Jun 26 08:59:01 <aks> hello
Jun 26 08:59:27 <stuk_gen> av500: what is the pipeline to try to play mp3?
Jun 26 08:59:27 <aks> please help on installing andriod on beagle board
Jun 26 08:59:43 <av500> stuk_gen: I have no idea, I dont use gst
Jun 26 08:59:54 <av500> but I would guess playing mp3 is a solved issue in 2012
Jun 26 08:59:56 <stuk_gen> av500: what do you use?
Jun 26 09:00:05 <koen> audioflinger?
Jun 26 09:00:13 <av500> xmms :)
Jun 26 09:00:46 <stuk_gen> but i need qt phonon...so i can use only gst
Jun 26 09:01:24 <stuk_gen> av500: so the ti-gstreamer is used for what?
Jun 26 09:01:25 <koen> phonon supports different backends
Jun 26 09:01:36 <koen> so you can write a phonon libav backend
Jun 26 09:01:37 <koen> but
Jun 26 09:01:52 <av500> stuk_gen: video codecs on the dsp
Jun 26 09:02:00 <koen> phonon is only usefull to make the 'ding' sound when you receive email, it's not for anything serious
Jun 26 09:02:31 <stuk_gen> koen:  i need only a mp3...os something similar...to play on a event...nothing else
Jun 26 09:02:40 <av500> mpg123
Jun 26 09:03:16 <stuk_gen> av500: ok...but i prefere using some api of qt... not a system(mpg123 a.mp3);
Jun 26 09:03:48 <av500> stuk_gen: looks like you should ask in #qt then
Jun 26 09:03:59 <stuk_gen> av500: about ti-gst is there a way to know if it work correctly or not? because i'm installed it...but play a stupid video is too slow with qt
Jun 26 09:04:50 <stuk_gen> av500: there are example that run bigbunny.mp4
Jun 26 09:05:08 <stuk_gen> av500: and its not slow
Jun 26 09:06:01 <koen> ! ffmpegcolorspace ! something ! ffmpegcolorspace ! something ! audioresample ! something ! etc
Jun 26 09:06:42 <stuk_gen> yes this is something similar to what i have to do :)
Jun 26 09:06:44 <av500> koen: ! queue ! queue ! queue
Jun 26 09:10:46 <stuk_gen> ok this is last hour...after i have to working with the qte on qtcreator :)
Jun 26 09:45:32 <aks> andriod is working too slow in my beagleboard pls help me
Jun 26 09:45:53 <aks> pls help me its urgent
Jun 26 09:46:52 * koen yawns
Jun 26 09:46:59 <LetoThe2nd> aks: 1) define "slow" 2) what did you expect? mind, the beagleboard is _NOT_ a top-end smartphone! 3) it is not urgent. really, it is not.
Jun 26 09:47:14 <koen> LetoThe2nd: you forget: WTH is 'andriod'?
Jun 26 09:47:43 * LetoThe2nd takes off pink typo glasses
Jun 26 09:48:44 <LetoThe2nd> might indeed also be helpful to leave the glasses off for hunting bugs in preprocessor macros, methinks.
Jun 26 09:51:19 <chainz> any one know how to add usb driver in beaglebone android gingerbread.?
Jun 26 09:51:56 <aks> LetoThe2nd: it takes around 20 mins to boot
Jun 26 09:52:44 <LetoThe2nd> aks: if its a beagleboard without nand and you have a slow sd card... possible.
Jun 26 09:52:55 <chainz> any one know how to mount USB in beaglebone gingerbread
Jun 26 09:53:56 <aks> which os will work better
Jun 26 09:54:11 <aks> on beagle board
Jun 26 09:54:25 <LetoThe2nd> aks: angstrom and a fast sd card.
Jun 26 09:55:01 <LetoThe2nd> (the latter IF you have a version without flash on board.)
Jun 26 09:56:21 <aks> thanks
Jun 26 09:57:58 <aks> how to check flash on board
Jun 26 09:58:16 <LetoThe2nd> koen: bets on when "adb doesn't connect to angrstom, pls help" comes?
Jun 26 09:58:35 <LetoThe2nd> aks: name your model, preferably including revision.
Jun 26 10:02:49 <aks> BeagleBoard-xM
Jun 26 10:03:49 <LetoThe2nd> aks: well then, go to http://beagleboard.org/hardware-xM and tell me if there is onboard flash mentioned :)
Jun 26 10:04:21 <aks> ok
Jun 26 10:10:15 <aks> how to bring android on root terminal in beagle board
Jun 26 10:38:51 <niro> koen, are you around?
Jun 26 10:42:37 <av500> he is asquare
Jun 26 10:42:52 <niro> lol
Jun 26 10:45:18 <niro> av500, do you know anything about sgx?
Jun 26 11:33:56 <murple> I am working on a project where I need the BeagleBone to be able to take an image, preferably from a USB microscope(webcam), but because I am afraid I will not find suitable drivers, I am looking for other options. What is the easiest way to take pictures (relatively low resolution and can be monochrome) with the BeagleBone??
Jun 26 11:35:57 <LetoThe2nd> murple: before buying a camera, just check if there are mainlined, open source, non-binary-blob direvers for the camera available. that shuold usually do fine.
Jun 26 11:36:22 <aholler> not if usb is broken
Jun 26 11:36:45 <LetoThe2nd> if usb is broken, you're f**ked up anyways.
Jun 26 11:38:39 <koen> recent kernels seem to work OK with UVC cams at low resolutions
Jun 26 11:38:42 <murple> LetoThe2nd: Sorry for my late reply, I was busy searching the fourms.
Jun 26 11:39:10 <koen> e.g. http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/c66a1014681beb4fe88fc048c595dfed.png
Jun 26 11:39:23 <murple> USB is not broken. I would prefer to use a USB, more specifically this USB microscope: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/digimicro-200x-zooming-usb-digital-microscope-11743?item=4
Jun 26 11:40:10 <murple> But I was advised by Farnell.com (an electronics supplier) that there may be driver issues because the BeagleBone is ARM based. I have little to no experience with "this", thus my asking.
Jun 26 11:40:51 <murple> koen: Is that image from a USB cam connected to the BeagleBone??
Jun 26 11:42:13 <koen> yes
Jun 26 11:42:28 <murple> koen: Well that's very promising then.
Jun 26 11:43:02 <niro> koen, do you have any experience with opengl on the xm?
Jun 26 11:43:51 <murple> Generally speaking, does the ARM processor mean that special drivers need to be used for various USB devices (webcams, modems, GPS etc)?
Jun 26 11:44:28 <av500> no
Jun 26 11:44:33 <LetoThe2nd> murple: not if the drivers are coded in adequate quality and binary-blob free
Jun 26 11:44:33 <niro> murple, if the camera is uvc, it uses the usb video class driver.
Jun 26 11:45:19 <niro> http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/#devices
Jun 26 11:45:34 <niro> Here is a list of supported devices, and there current status.
Jun 26 11:48:27 <murple> Okay, I think I understand. So generally speaking, if I can get a USB webcam/microscope working on my desktop running Linux, it will probably be possible to get it to work on the BeagleBone.
Jun 26 11:49:39 <niro> Yes, apart from there are issues with the usb drivers.
Jun 26 11:49:55 <niro> So you might find you struggle to get high resolution pictures.
Jun 26 11:51:38 <murple> niro: okay, I don't require high resolutions at the moment.
Jun 26 12:01:00 <stuk_gen> ok i'm ready to try the meta-toolchain-qte on qtcreator :)
Jun 26 12:01:56 <stuk_gen> i think i found the problem, for using qmake2 from toolchain i need using enviroment-setup-armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi
Jun 26 12:02:14 <stuk_gen> this create local variable on the shell and i can using qmake2 from here
Jun 26 12:02:37 <stuk_gen> but qtcreator can't find this variable so have ptoblem to build
Jun 26 12:17:28 <guyzmo> heyall
Jun 26 12:21:48 <guyzmo> I rebuilt twice a kernel that fails to load without giving any output (after the "Starting kernel ...") is there anyway for me to get it more verbose ? or to debug what's wrong ?
Jun 26 12:22:15 <guyzmo> is there a size limit on what the beaglebone can load ?
Jun 26 12:22:28 <guyzmo> my kernel is about 3700000
Jun 26 12:22:31 <guyzmo> bytes
Jun 26 12:23:33 <guyzmo> err, well, no, it's exactly : 3073264 bytes :)
Jun 26 12:23:54 <guyzmo> and a previous kernel that worked is 3083440
Jun 26 12:24:37 <jacekowski> do you have some sort of silent/quiet option in your cmdline
Jun 26 12:25:07 <guyzmo> ah, right I do
Jun 26 12:25:42 <guyzmo> let's start with that :)
Jun 26 12:29:14 <guyzmo> hrrm does not help
Jun 26 12:29:50 <jacekowski> jtag by any chance?
Jun 26 12:30:36 <guyzmo> jacekowski - how can I debug through JTAG ?
Jun 26 12:30:50 <jacekowski> well, have you got jtag interface in first place?
Jun 26 12:31:34 <av500> enable kernel console and earlyprintk
Jun 26 12:31:35 <guyzmo> I don't have one designed for the beaglebone, but I got a few ones (2mm spaced pins) I can hack to work with
Jun 26 12:31:52 <av500> normally kernel not booting can be solved without jtag
Jun 26 12:33:30 <guyzmo> av500 - about the console, you mean console=ttyO0,115200n8 ?
Jun 26 12:33:42 <av500> yes
Jun 26 12:33:51 <guyzmo> ok, so that's ok
Jun 26 12:33:58 <guyzmo> I'm recompiling with early printk support
Jun 26 12:34:05 <av500> also, start from a known good kernel
Jun 26 12:39:39 <guyzmo> av500 - to reset totally the kernel configuration
Jun 26 12:39:49 <guyzmo> shall I do only bitbake -c clean virtual/kernel ?
Jun 26 12:40:07 <av500> oh, bitbake
Jun 26 12:40:11 <av500> I have no idea
Jun 26 12:40:22 <guyzmo> yeah, it's being my nightmare lately
Jun 26 12:40:32 <av500> http://www.slimlogic.co.uk/2011/05/openembeddedangstrom-kernel-workflow/
Jun 26 12:40:34 <av500> there
Jun 26 12:41:03 <av500> nah, its not a nightmare, its just more for enterprise users
Jun 26 12:41:18 <koen> it even has eclipse support nowadays
Jun 26 12:41:57 <guyzmo> well, it's my needs, we're deploying 4 bbones in the wild this week, and we'll deploy 20 others in the next monthes
Jun 26 12:42:09 <guyzmo> so the whole ipk feed and update system is pretty neat
Jun 26 12:42:34 <av500> wildbones
Jun 26 12:42:53 <guyzmo> but the whole process really takes time
Jun 26 12:43:15 <av500> it gets easier after a few years...
Jun 26 12:43:19 <guyzmo> (I think I'm going to change my build server pretty soon, to have a quadcore with lots of ram :P)
Jun 26 12:43:29 <av500> you mean you dont?
Jun 26 12:44:18 <guyzmo> well, I just had the new build machine yesterday, but still have no time to deploy it (and let it rebuild all the packages)
Jun 26 12:44:26 <guyzmo> deadlines...
Jun 26 12:45:33 <guyzmo> koen - does bitbake -c clean virtual/kernel also reset to the default configuration ?
Jun 26 12:46:16 <guyzmo> I need to get ath9k drivers, and after a clean it still appears (but maybe it is now enabled with last update...)
Jun 26 12:47:18 <angs> why can't I install this package http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=kernel-module-rt2870sta on beaglebone by "opkg install kernel-module-rt2870sta" ?
Jun 26 12:48:40 <av500> because there is no build for the bone?
Jun 26 12:49:23 <guyzmo> angs - you can lookup what you can install using opkg list 'kernel-module-*' or opkg search
Jun 26 12:49:54 <angs> thank you
Jun 26 12:50:21 <guyzmo> angs - and for the beaglebone you shall look for armv7 packages (in the packages list at the bottom of the page)
Jun 26 12:51:30 <angs> guyzmo: thank you
Jun 26 12:56:56 <joelagnel> koen, you liar, stop spamming under that question.
Jun 26 12:56:59 <joelagnel> ;)
Jun 26 12:58:33 <joelagnel> koen, I enjoy reading beagle ml
Jun 26 12:59:56 <koen> joelagnel: btw, if you have time, can you rebase your hdmi work on 3.2.18 or 3.2.21? https://github.com/koenkooi/linux/branches
Jun 26 13:01:31 <koen> joelagnel: I hate it when people lie to me, it's counterproductive
Jun 26 13:01:52 <koen> I don't mean people making mistakes and not realizing it
Jun 26 13:01:57 <koen> that happens to me all the time
Jun 26 13:02:02 * koen <- moron
Jun 26 13:04:36 <av500> joelagnel: where is he lying now?
Jun 26 13:05:53 <av500> ah
Jun 26 13:06:10 <av500> koen: t-shirt: "I'm spamming under a question"
Jun 26 13:10:20 <chainz> any one have android beaglebone driver for linux or windows
Jun 26 13:10:36 <guyzmo> uhuh
Jun 26 13:10:42 <guyzmo> av500 - early printk is already built in
Jun 26 13:12:50 * guyzmo feels like going back 18 years ago failing to compile his firsts 1.2 kernels :)
Jun 26 13:13:39 <guyzmo> damn... saying "18 years ago" makes me feel getting old
Jun 26 13:14:15 <ynezz> hm, 18 yrs old whiskey...
Jun 26 13:15:10 <dwery> LetoThe2nd: you forgot: 4) Which country are you from? (bets are open...)
Jun 26 13:15:43 <bradfa> chainz, pming to ask the same question just asked in the channel isn't very helpful
Jun 26 13:15:57 <bradfa> please don't do that
Jun 26 13:16:30 <dwery> bradfa: he pmemmed you? /me feels angered for not being the only one!
Jun 26 13:18:00 <bradfa> dwery, sorry, you're not a unique flower :)
Jun 26 13:18:19 <dwery> I'll have to live with that
Jun 26 13:18:24 <dwery> it will be hard, I know
Jun 26 13:18:26 <bradfa> it's not hard, I do it every day :)
Jun 26 13:19:47 <mdp> PMing exact steps is strongly encouraged!
Jun 26 13:20:20 * mdp senses that koen's lie detector is letting out magic smoke about now
Jun 26 13:20:38 * dwery pm's steps to mdp
Jun 26 13:21:00 <mdp> plz, only exact steps
Jun 26 13:21:43 <dwery> exact.. what's exact nowadays... we all need to be flexible
Jun 26 13:22:04 <mdp> just tell me what to do and I'll do it
Jun 26 13:22:48 * dwery sends his work schedule for the next decade to mdp
Jun 26 13:24:18 <mdp> heh
Jun 26 13:24:23 <dwery> :D
Jun 26 13:24:42 <av500> there are 3 PM strategies: 1) go by sorted list - my favorite :(
Jun 26 13:24:48 <av500> 2) pm people that say anything
Jun 26 13:24:54 <av500> 3) random  PM of death
Jun 26 13:25:33 <av500> _av500_ collects PMs like dead flies
Jun 26 13:25:35 <dwery> I shall block any PM coming from india...
Jun 26 13:25:44 <guyzmo> av500 - that's what I used to do, when I was oper and with the /kill command :)
Jun 26 13:27:52 <guyzmo> oh
Jun 26 13:28:02 <guyzmo> actually I got output without the quiet
Jun 26 13:28:08 <guyzmo> don't know what I've not done
Jun 26 13:28:10 <guyzmo> earlier
Jun 26 13:29:01 <yegorich> Hi! How can I use NNMI input in Linux?
Jun 26 13:29:47 <dwery> yegorich: you can't
Jun 26 13:30:53 <yegorich> dwery: what is this pin for? I couldn't find much info in the technical reference. Is it because it is actually M3 interrupt and not A8?
Jun 26 13:31:01 <Agent_Smith> hello everyone!
Jun 26 13:32:02 <guyzmo> what's NNMI ?
Jun 26 13:32:15 <guyzmo> Agent_Smith - hello alone
Jun 26 13:32:21 <dwery> it's the not not maskable interrupt :D
Jun 26 13:32:44 <av500> dwery: IRQ pin that is always masked in HW
Jun 26 13:32:57 <av500> we used to call them n.c.
Jun 26 13:33:45 <yegorich> Still don't really understand what this pin is making?
Jun 26 13:34:05 <Agent_Smith> Does BeagleBone run on only the 5V plug? Mine refuses to power on without the usb connection...
Jun 26 13:34:41 <guyzmo> dwery - then if I apply some boolean logic, it's maskable interrupt, therefore it's just an interrupt
Jun 26 13:34:56 <dwery> it makes sense
Jun 26 13:35:13 <guyzmo> Agent_Smith - yes it does. Then yours is not really nice
Jun 26 13:35:38 <guyzmo> Agent_Smith - how do you tell it does not power on ?
Jun 26 13:35:50 <guyzmo> Agent_Smith - and what are the characteristics of your power supply ?
Jun 26 13:36:15 <guyzmo> you need a 5V and >700mA supply
Jun 26 13:37:08 <Agent_Smith> The power LED and the Ethernet connector light comes on when I plug the 5V in and then both turn of after cca. 2seconds... The power adapter is rated 5V/2,5A...
Jun 26 13:37:54 <flavioMcBit> hello, anyone use beagleboard with ulcd7???
Jun 26 13:38:14 <yegorich> dwery: this pin is used for HDMI transmitter (found in the originla am335x evm schematix)
Jun 26 13:38:49 <dwery> nice!
Jun 26 13:38:59 <guyzmo> flavioMcBit - I do not!!! maybe someone else does!!!
Jun 26 13:39:02 <yegorich> dwery: where do I initialize it as interrupt?
Jun 26 13:39:38 <yegorich> dwery: there is no source code for this transmitter cause it is marked as DNI :-(
Jun 26 13:39:40 <guyzmo> Agent_Smith - your power supply maybe failing
Jun 26 13:39:43 <guyzmo> try with another one
Jun 26 13:39:53 <yegorich> dwery: so I have no reference
Jun 26 13:40:31 <guyzmo> yegorich - maybe lurking at some hdmi implementation could help (if there is any) ?
Jun 26 13:42:02 <yegorich> guyzmo: I have almost everything I need (software) taken from some Freescale based product, what I don't know, how do I tell the driver to use NNMI pin as interrupt
Jun 26 13:42:31 <yegorich> guyzmo: http://opensource.freescale.com/git?p=imx/linux-2.6-imx.git;a=blob;f=drivers/video/mxc/mxcfb_sii902x.c;h=4082db0246c0b91c223261250f98c8fd4432ca8c;hb=0513be3654c6d537cde96e9e1504146bcc0afe2a
Jun 26 13:42:48 <av500> ah, it's nNMI
Jun 26 13:42:59 <flavioMcBit> i don't find driver for touch controller on ulcd7 for armstrong
Jun 26 13:43:13 <dwery> av500: are n and N equivalent?
Jun 26 13:43:19 <dwery> aren't*
Jun 26 13:43:23 <av500> http://e2e.ti.com/support/dsp/sitara_arm174_microprocessors/f/791/t/170369.aspx
Jun 26 13:43:36 <av500> dwery: the "n" means low active I guess
Jun 26 13:43:44 <dwery> how dare they!
Jun 26 13:43:49 <dwery> this is so obscure
Jun 26 13:43:51 <av500> .....I believe that the NMI signal can only be used as a dedicated WKUP interrupt to bring the Cortex A8 out of a suspend/sleep state. .....
Jun 26 13:44:02 <dwery> there must be something wrong in people that writes schematic
Jun 26 13:44:19 <guyzmo> dwery - of course there is, they're electronicians
Jun 26 13:44:39 <av500> ah, 2nd last comment explains it
Jun 26 13:44:39 <guyzmo> dwery - have you ever read electronicians' code source ? no wonder something is wrong with them :-p
Jun 26 13:44:39 * dwery closes his schematic capture sw and pretend not to know...
Jun 26 13:44:50 <av500> the inverted inverter has been inverted by accident
Jun 26 13:45:07 <av500> yegorich: read the e2e thread
Jun 26 13:45:24 <dwery> av500: quick! call 911!
Jun 26 13:45:36 <av500> you mean 119
Jun 26 13:45:42 <dwery> 191?
Jun 26 13:46:13 <guyzmo> 0XEE6 ?
Jun 26 13:46:15 * dwery hided the inverted inverter
Jun 26 13:46:17 <dwery> hides*
Jun 26 13:46:27 <Agent_Smith> Tested the power adapter and the power connector on the BeagleBone itself, both are working according to specs. Thnx for the infos. I will try to google something up :)
Jun 26 13:47:04 <dwery> Agent_Smith: you might want to hook up a scope and look at the waveforms
Jun 26 13:47:53 <yegorich> av500: I see
Jun 26 13:59:09 <stuk_gen> mmmh...not nice...
Jun 26 13:59:23 <stuk_gen> qt creator works with meta-toolchain-qte
Jun 26 13:59:31 <stuk_gen> but after put manually 30 variables
Jun 26 13:59:44 <stuk_gen> and correct a function for gcc issue
Jun 26 14:23:50 <bradfa> how exactly am I supposed to respond to this? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard/ICsE5HeX1P0/DThuNNmYRXQJ
Jun 26 14:23:54 <bradfa> I honestly have no clue
Jun 26 14:24:08 <bradfa> I shouldn't have gotten involved in the first place, but I did...
Jun 26 14:27:20 <av500> bradfa: not eady
Jun 26 14:27:23 <av500> bradfa: not easy
Jun 26 14:27:36 <rcn-ee> bradfa, it's a good laugh. ;)
Jun 26 14:27:44 <av500> if the remarks about abuse a true, this person could have gone through quite a bit
Jun 26 14:27:48 <av500> are*
Jun 26 14:27:54 <bradfa> av500, yes, that's my concern
Jun 26 14:28:39 <bradfa> If there was abuse, I don't want to make any recommendations other than rather "safe" (for me) ones for fear of somehow getting further tangled into something legal
Jun 26 14:30:01 <bradfa> thus my recommendation to not use the Internets
Jun 26 14:30:03 <av500> just state fact
Jun 26 14:30:06 <av500> +s
Jun 26 14:30:20 <av500> I just tired
Jun 26 14:30:22 <av500> tried
Jun 26 14:30:28 <av500> fck, tired too :)
Jun 26 14:31:30 <Agent_Smith> this seems like a great oportunity to learn how to stay away...
Jun 26 14:31:42 <bradfa> Agent_Smith, YES
Jun 26 14:33:42 <guyzmo> hum... I just noticed there is 3.2.21 in the feeds
Jun 26 14:33:55 <guyzmo> and I still get 3.2.18 in setup-scripts
Jun 26 14:34:04 <guyzmo> wth ?
Jun 26 14:34:36 <koen> guyzmo: keep up with the meta-ti mailinglist: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/meta-ti/2012-June/001288.html
Jun 26 14:34:41 <bradfa> TI just called me. They want to send me a monthly newsletter... I thought that was just an Internet meme?
Jun 26 14:35:48 <Sh0rtWave> Hrm
Jun 26 14:35:59 <Sh0rtWave> The "My Abuser" part of that is interesting.
Jun 26 14:36:47 <LetoThe2nd> rcn-ee: agreed, at least its a good laugh.
Jun 26 14:36:49 <bradfa> Sh0rtWave, yes, thus my concern
Jun 26 14:37:05 <LetoThe2nd> the 4004 hat no UUID, methinks.
Jun 26 14:37:20 <Sh0rtWave> That makes it seem almost like a personal vendetta, or some extra level of paranoia.
Jun 26 14:37:20 <koen> is UUID another name for 'MAC address?'?
Jun 26 14:37:27 <Sh0rtWave> koen: No.
Jun 26 14:37:47 <koen> so a mac address is not unique?
Jun 26 14:37:48 <Sh0rtWave> koen: A UUID is any number that can be used to uniquely identify a particular asset.
Jun 26 14:37:57 <rcn-ee> i thought it was an intel thing, but wasn't that user disablable after the pentium 3 fiasko..
Jun 26 14:37:58 <Sh0rtWave> koen: No. MAC addresses can be duplicated.
Jun 26 14:38:20 <bradfa> rcn-ee, my core i7 has a uuid
Jun 26 14:39:08 <bradfa> see /sys/class/dmi/id/product_uuid
Jun 26 14:39:23 <bradfa> not sure if that's the cpu or mobo one though
Jun 26 14:39:55 <LetoThe2nd> i'll go with vlado's opinion there.
Jun 26 14:40:25 <Sh0rtWave> koen: The thing with MACs is that they're intended to be unique only on their local network segment.
Jun 26 14:40:49 <Sh0rtWave> koen: You can have 100 networks that have identical MAC address setups as long as they're separated by routers.
Jun 26 14:41:23 <dwery> cloning MACs can be very useful :D
Jun 26 14:41:44 <mdp> I thought research into cloning MACs was banned?!?
Jun 26 14:41:47 <rcn-ee> bradfa, on my quad amd system, it's almost as simple as 2345678.... makes you think it's a bios thing. ;)
Jun 26 14:42:04 <Sh0rtWave> mdp: eh?
Jun 26 14:42:05 <dwery> I did no research
Jun 26 14:42:40 <Sh0rtWave> How do you ban MAC address cloning?
Jun 26 14:43:01 <dwery> I just knew how to do it :D
Jun 26 14:43:05 <Sh0rtWave> That functionality is practically built into modern NICs.
Jun 26 14:43:41 <bradfa> rcn-ee, interesting. I dunno
Jun 26 14:43:50 <dwery> Sh0rtWave: we're just joking, don't worry. It must be Friday.
Jun 26 14:43:56 <bradfa> re: MACs, but if you want to sell product, you still have to buy an allocation from IEEE
Jun 26 14:43:57 <Sh0rtWave> dwery: Sadly not :D
Jun 26 14:44:11 * dwery pretends it's Friday
Jun 26 14:44:35 <av500> I am proposing to use random MACs at work since years
Jun 26 14:44:56 <av500> well, not totally random, with out prefix
Jun 26 14:44:59 <av500> our*
Jun 26 14:45:18 <dwery> av500: it will surely be funny for the guy that has some mac control software on your network segment ;)
Jun 26 14:46:08 <mdp> ahh, MAC _address_, not Mac clones ;)
Jun 26 14:46:25 <av500> dwery: I mean for the products
Jun 26 14:46:31 <av500> not our PCs :)
Jun 26 14:46:39 <av500> and random but fixed
Jun 26 14:46:50 <av500> not changing at each boot
Jun 26 14:46:52 <mru> how would you avoid duplicates?
Jun 26 14:47:00 <av500> mru: would not
Jun 26 14:47:02 <dwery> not changing? less funny.
Jun 26 14:47:07 <mru> or are they so expensive that nobody can afford two?
Jun 26 14:47:23 <av500> but 2 random users having the same MAC at the same place would mean we sold a LOT
Jun 26 14:47:29 <av500> :)
Jun 26 14:47:32 <mru> but please add a setting to change the mac
Jun 26 14:47:33 <av500> I could live with that
Jun 26 14:47:42 <mru> great for airports
Jun 26 14:48:02 <Sh0rtWave> mdp: You know you can get OSX running on a Dell, right?
Jun 26 14:48:05 <Sh0rtWave> mdp: :D
Jun 26 14:48:18 <mdp> shhhh!
Jun 26 14:48:26 <Sh0rtWave> It's silly how apple has bound their OS so tightly to their hardware, but you CAN get it running on other stuff.
Jun 26 14:49:00 <dwery> it's just that my mb air weights a lot less than a comparable Dell
Jun 26 14:49:20 <jacekowski> dwery: it has comparably less hardware in it
Jun 26 14:49:33 <jacekowski> and dell is crap
Jun 26 14:49:34 <dwery> probably useless hw :D
Jun 26 14:49:36 <jacekowski> mb is crap as well
Jun 26 14:49:42 <joelagnel> koen, will rebase sure, though i think it should not have any conflicts
Jun 26 14:49:43 <jacekowski> toshiba hp or asus
Jun 26 14:49:56 <dwery> being an Amiga user.. I'd say that tightly bound OS/HW can be a nice thing
Jun 26 14:50:24 <mru> for people who like being told what to think, sure
Jun 26 14:50:30 <mdp> Dells seem to install extra weight to make it seem more rugged
Jun 26 14:51:09 <dwery> well.. if you take the gaussian distribution of the QI on the earth.. you have a lot of people to sell products to ;)
Jun 26 14:54:24 * LetoThe2nd just notices https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/JzfIutUwY2U :-DDDD
Jun 26 14:56:13 <Sh0rtWave> Man, that level of paranoia astonishes me.
Jun 26 14:56:41 <LetoThe2nd> oh we have those regularly in other channels. kind of entertaining.
Jun 26 14:57:08 <Sh0rtWave> like using LiveCDs all the time, WTF
Jun 26 14:58:56 <guyzmo> CDs ?
Jun 26 14:59:02 <av500> one a PC
Jun 26 14:59:06 <av500> sdcard on beagle
Jun 26 14:59:13 <guyzmo> isn't that the magnetic tape of the 90s ? :)
Jun 26 14:59:22 <av500> and victims of domestic abuse might not act very rational
Jun 26 15:01:06 <Sh0rtWave> av500: I wondered about that, but what I found most interesting was the "my abuser's hackers" bit.
Jun 26 15:01:19 <Sh0rtWave> av500: It's almost as if said "abuser" is some evil overlord with an army of evil hackers.
Jun 26 15:04:27 <Sh0rtWave> Greatest craigslist ad ever: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cpg/3096615033.html
Jun 26 15:05:49 <dwery> :D
Jun 26 15:06:56 <guyzmo> Sh0rtWave - damn, there's a coworking space just next to my workplace
Jun 26 15:07:18 <guyzmo> Sh0rtWave - and there's only that kind of people overthere
Jun 26 15:07:44 <snelly> Sh0rtWave: that's hilarious
Jun 26 15:08:16 <guyzmo> (I get to discuss with them^W^W^Whear their buzzwords every time I go grab some free food or free champagne at their barcamps)
Jun 26 15:08:58 <Sh0rtWave> I troll for work on CL all the time
Jun 26 15:09:05 <Sh0rtWave> That's how I landed this camera project, actually
Jun 26 15:09:55 <Sh0rtWave> I nominated that for Best Of
Jun 26 15:10:06 <Sh0rtWave> My all-time favorite best-of tho is this one: http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/bos/48512137.html
Jun 26 15:12:16 <mru> how many people were involved in that incident?
Jun 26 15:12:59 <Sh0rtWave> I think only one.
Jun 26 15:13:49 <mru> but he's referring alternately to "I" and "he"
Jun 26 15:13:51 <mru> quite confusing
Jun 26 15:14:16 <Sh0rtWave> I think he's talking about himself in a "Look at this idiot"
Jun 26 15:14:19 <Sh0rtWave> sort of way
Jun 26 15:14:41 <mru> yes, except when he forgets and says "i"
Jun 26 15:14:46 <mru> which is about half the time
Jun 26 15:14:55 <av500> he was dazed and confused
Jun 26 15:15:02 <Sh0rtWave> I'd imagine so.
Jun 26 15:15:08 <av500> fruit loop stuck in his eye and all
Jun 26 15:17:56 <snelly> music to get the morning started:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoA0cTC228M
Jun 26 15:19:02 <av500> the sound card on my VT100 is bust
Jun 26 15:21:01 <Sh0rtWave> VT100?
Jun 26 15:21:03 <Sh0rtWave> Terminal?
Jun 26 15:21:04 <Sh0rtWave> heh
Jun 26 15:21:19 <Sh0rtWave> special super-modulated terminal bell action
Jun 26 15:31:24 <seb-workfly> Hello everyone, i'm relatively new to linux and i have some problems with the BeagleBone and USB camera (uEye). The camera appear correctly when i do lsusb and dmesg, but it seems I can't access to it. I use the command ueyesetid (to set the id of the uEye cameras connected) but it says no camera is connected. I heard of some configurations to make when rebuilding a kernel : CONFIG_MUSB_PIO_ONLY=y to disable the DMA (what is it ?
Jun 26 15:57:53 <stuk_gen> >_< i have two bb...in one qt phonon i can listen audio...in another no...
Jun 26 15:58:02 <stuk_gen> i think i have installed the same package
Jun 26 16:04:11 <guyzmo> omg
Jun 26 16:04:26 <guyzmo> from the ml:
Jun 26 16:04:28 <guyzmo> " I'm not too sure how to use 'dmesg' a lot of information comes through. "
Jun 26 16:04:30 <guyzmo> and then
Jun 26 16:04:47 <guyzmo> " minicom -D /dev/`dmesg | grep FTDI | grep "now attached to" | tail -n 1 | awk '{ print $NF }'` "
Jun 26 16:08:07 <guyzmo> this is exactly the cases where in some old usenet forum we use to give this howto : http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pafoo.net%2Funinstallglibc%2Funinstglibc.html
Jun 26 16:08:16 <guyzmo> the "glibc uninstall howto"
Jun 26 16:08:19 <guyzmo> :-)
Jun 26 16:26:44 <aholler> it's like having quiet in the kernel-cmd and searching for output
Jun 26 16:43:46 <oxicl33n> Will the bone support x10 automation
Jun 26 16:43:48 <oxicl33n> ?
Jun 26 16:44:29 <woglinde> what is x10 automation?
Jun 26 16:44:31 <av500> if you connect something that does x10
Jun 26 16:44:35 <dwery> only x20
Jun 26 16:44:36 <av500> woglinde: us thing
Jun 26 16:44:38 <av500> US
Jun 26 16:44:54 <dwery> we all know that x20 is clearly better than x10
Jun 26 16:44:56 <djlewis> old remote appliance control thingy
Jun 26 16:44:59 <woglinde> zigbee?
Jun 26 16:45:00 <dwery> because the number is higher, right?
Jun 26 16:45:02 <av500> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_(Protokoll)
Jun 26 16:45:40 <djlewis> sends signals through house electric lines
Jun 26 16:45:43 <woglinde> let me see thanks av500 for the link
Jun 26 16:46:27 <woglinde> haha lol
Jun 26 16:46:34 <woglinde> no return signals
Jun 26 16:46:39 <woglinde> that suckz
Jun 26 16:47:04 <av500> woglinde: its from 1975
Jun 26 16:47:08 <woglinde> yes
Jun 26 16:47:12 <djlewis> did i mention old
Jun 26 16:47:13 <av500> you were not even born
Jun 26 16:47:20 <av500> wrt woglinde
Jun 26 16:47:27 <woglinde> damn one year to late
Jun 26 16:47:27 <dwery> CAN bus rulez!
Jun 26 16:47:32 * dwery hides...
Jun 26 16:47:35 * mdp prefers x11
Jun 26 16:47:40 <djlewis> city bus suckz
Jun 26 16:47:53 <av500> d-bus is the future
Jun 26 16:48:01 <av500> it will control $EVERYTHINH
Jun 26 16:48:03 <av500> G
Jun 26 16:48:14 <woglinde> anyway the devices have two connectors so they could be wired to gpio
Jun 26 16:48:16 <dwery> $ENV{EVERYTHING}
Jun 26 16:51:00 <dwery> gtg...it's been a funny day on irc...thanks ;)
Jun 26 16:51:09 <woglinde> hm
Jun 26 16:51:14 <woglinde> most days are funny here
Jun 26 16:53:39 <av500> dwery: glad to have been entertainment for you
Jun 26 16:53:45 <av500> we serve to please
Jun 26 17:20:09 * mranostay curses CA 101
Jun 26 17:22:32 <woglinde> whats ca 101 now?
Jun 26 17:23:32 <guyzmo> av500 - people use to say the same thing about xmpp 10 years ago :)
Jun 26 17:25:36 <av500> woglinde: an autobahn
Jun 26 17:25:44 <av500> but one where the cars do not move
Jun 26 17:25:48 <av500> its a US thing....
Jun 26 17:25:52 <mranostay> yeah exactly
Jun 26 17:26:06 <av500> guyzmo: xmwaht?
Jun 26 17:26:56 <woglinde> av500 on most highways in us cars do not move
Jun 26 17:27:08 <ka6sox> ouch
Jun 26 17:27:12 <ka6sox> (but true)
Jun 26 17:27:14 <woglinde> hi ka6sox
Jun 26 17:27:23 <guyzmo> av500 - the big, awful and bloated protocol
Jun 26 17:27:26 <ka6sox> morning woglinde
Jun 26 17:27:31 <woglinde> thats why all the us guys comes to us to race 250
Jun 26 17:27:40 <woglinde> on our autobahn
Jun 26 17:28:11 <av500> on the few places that are still "open"
Jun 26 17:28:20 <mranostay> i would love to go 65 mph on it
Jun 26 17:28:22 <av500> and without traffic
Jun 26 17:28:26 <djlewis> are there people that spend their days on the autobahn just to race?
Jun 26 17:28:35 <av500> djlewis: sure
Jun 26 17:28:40 <guyzmo> djlewis - sure, we call them "cops"
Jun 26 17:28:42 <woglinde> djlewis of course
Jun 26 17:29:08 <av500> trucks race each other on 2 line highways all the time
Jun 26 17:29:10 <av500> much fun
Jun 26 17:29:17 <av500> for the others
Jun 26 17:29:46 <djlewis> yeah, they get side by side for miles and miles in US blocking smaller vehicles
Jun 26 17:30:21 <mranostay> djlewis: formation driving
Jun 26 17:42:35 <djlewis> there will be a truck that is 1mph faster than the other truck on a downhill run.
Jun 26 17:47:03 <ka6sox> they LOVE to pull out in front of cars that are doing 20mph faster than them...and then just cruise...
Jun 26 18:00:24 <woglinde> hm how do I boot an overo from sdcard
Jun 26 18:00:35 <woglinde> I have setup the card
Jun 26 18:18:32 <HeadAche> Hello Everybody!
Jun 26 18:18:38 <jkridner_> howdy.
Jun 26 18:18:48 <jkridner_> if it wasn't for that Linux.com article, I wouldn't have heard of http://www.calao-systems.com/file/SKY-T3359-XXX/SKY-T3359-IXX-FLY.pdf
Jun 26 18:19:23 <woglinde> hi jkridner
Jun 26 18:19:29 <jkridner_> hi woglinde
Jun 26 18:19:58 * woglinde looks at the pdf
Jun 26 18:20:16 <HeadAche> No camera connector makes it useless to me
Jun 26 18:20:16 * prpplague looks as well
Jun 26 18:20:20 <prpplague> jkridner_: dandy!
Jun 26 18:20:34 <prpplague> jkridner_: looks like something i'd like to see for the OMAP443x
Jun 26 18:20:50 <jkridner_> GPS and IMU!
Jun 26 18:21:01 <djlewis> mmMMmmm, pizza has arrived :)
Jun 26 18:21:03 <jkridner_> pressure, temp, humidity.
Jun 26 18:21:11 <jkridner_> WiFi/BT
Jun 26 18:21:17 <jkridner_> dual-GigE
Jun 26 18:22:53 <HeadAche> Is anyone from TI here?
Jun 26 18:23:44 <prpplague> HeadAche: no one that will admit it
Jun 26 18:23:48 <HeadAche> lol
Jun 26 18:27:26 <HeadAche> I'm at work, and literally have nothing to do, as the electrical and mechanical engineers are all behind schedule
Jun 26 18:29:21 <mranostay> go home?
Jun 26 18:29:26 * djlewis stuffs his face with pizza and tries to feel badly for HeadAche
Jun 26 18:30:08 <HeadAche> I dont think they'd pay me if I went home, have to sit here and charge hours to the project... a pizza does sound good though
Jun 26 18:30:08 <dm8tbr> play with a beaglebone, release some open-source... :)
Jun 26 18:31:04 <HeadAche> I'm trying to get one of our sensors to work on the beagle bone, we were using the dm814x from TI, but the software sucks soooo bad on it that it's sad
Jun 26 18:31:14 <HeadAche> er not beagle bone, beagle board xm
Jun 26 18:31:20 <mranostay> who uses vendor software?
Jun 26 18:31:59 <djlewis> this is the "if it dont work, fix it or write your own code" group :)
Jun 26 18:32:36 <woglinde> jkridner_ hm ieehks minipci header for usbdevices
Jun 26 18:34:32 <jkridner_> I'll admit to working from TI, but I'd be in line to tell you to look to non-vendor software.  I think the most important task for me is to enable community developers to generate the real software and get the useful bits out of TI.
Jun 26 18:35:10 <jkridner_> speaking of which, I finally have the source to the PRU assembler, but it needs open source headers before I can release. :(
Jun 26 18:35:31 <jkridner_> I believe it will be BSD-style licensing.
Jun 26 18:35:53 <ds2> I'll take the 1's.
Jun 26 18:36:04 <ds2> :)
Jun 26 18:37:14 <docmur> I was looking at the gerbers for the beaglebone and it seems to need 6 layers, is there anway to cut the layers down to something lower like 4?
Jun 26 18:37:17 <docmur> has anyone tried
Jun 26 18:37:36 <djlewis> make it larger
Jun 26 18:38:09 <docmur> has anyone tried?
Jun 26 18:48:16 <jonand_> docmur: um, why would you want to produce your own beaglebones?
Jun 26 18:49:23 <docmur> we have to incorp it into a layout were making for a final project, some idiot desided to use it as a protoboard and now his code is cupled into it we need to replicate it, however like everything else he's done, he didn't look at the layout and now were stuck with a 6 layer board
Jun 26 18:49:28 <docmur> and a BGA
Jun 26 18:50:32 <thurbad> is the bone fine pitch like the beagleboards?
Jun 26 18:50:42 <docmur> yes
Jun 26 18:50:48 <thurbad> ouch
Jun 26 18:59:26 <HeadAche> I've been using a 5v 4amp connector on the beagleboard-xM, thats fine right?
Jun 26 18:59:49 <prpplague> HeadAche: plenty
Jun 26 19:01:26 <docmur> Does the BGA on the beaglebone come preprogramed when you buy it online
Jun 26 19:03:28 <prpplague> hehe
Jun 26 19:04:29 <prpplague> docmur: the SoC does not contain any programmable memory, only a enough ROM to know how to boot from specific devices such as SD card or eMMC
Jun 26 19:04:44 <prpplague> docmur: beyond that, you are responsible
Jun 26 19:07:36 <HeadAche> Whats a good microphone for use with the beagleboard? I heard that it needed to be a powered mic from someplace I believe
Jun 26 19:07:36 <mdp> for an oil tanker full of hundreds, TI will program whatever you want in a custom soc.
Jun 26 19:07:47 <djlewis> docmur: go back to the idiot and have a reconsider maybe. Sounds like a huge undertaking for a project.
Jun 26 19:09:11 <mranostay> 6 layer board. i can't see that going wrong :)
Jun 26 19:09:58 <mranostay> another i have an urge for a 6 layer burrito now for some reason
Jun 26 19:11:59 <prpplague> mranostay: hehe
Jun 26 19:12:10 <prpplague> mranostay: 6 layer burrito made with kittens?
Jun 26 19:13:05 <djlewis> might match my 2 lb burriti's
Jun 26 19:13:13 <djlewis> -i +o
Jun 26 19:16:43 <mranostay> prpplague: nah just veal and baby seal
Jun 26 19:29:34 <djlewis> no shredded dolphin?
Jun 26 19:30:58 <djlewis> just kidding :))
Jun 26 19:31:00 <mdp> mmmm
Jun 26 19:31:03 <mdp> all sounds great!
Jun 26 19:32:37 <HeadAche> reading #beagle logs
Jun 26 19:35:50 <djlewis> hmm, sounds smelly
Jun 26 19:36:10 <HeadAche> lol
Jun 26 19:37:58 <HeadAche> I'm doing buildroot of the gamin git: http://blog.galemin.com/ and just got this
Jun 26 19:38:16 <HeadAche> checking for linux/media.h... no
Jun 26 19:38:31 <HeadAche> ERROR: Kernel header file not found or not usable!
Jun 26 19:38:46 <HeadAche> My kernel is: 3.0.0-21-generic
Jun 26 19:39:03 <HeadAche> checking for buildroot kernel source it is compiling...
Jun 26 19:39:26 <HeadAche> It is cross compiling kernel 3.2.8
Jun 26 19:40:16 <mdp> djlewis, mixing in some minced fawn cuts down on the smelliness.
Jun 26 19:41:21 <djlewis> mdp: sounds good but I was referring smelly to HeadAche reading beagle logs.
Jun 26 19:41:44 <mdp> I still stuck on the thought of exotic burritos
Jun 26 19:41:59 <HeadAche> It's building media-ctl
Jun 26 19:42:06 <dwery> PRU sources!?
Jun 26 19:42:09 <dwery> how sweet
Jun 26 19:42:21 <mdp> djlewis, he can come to my yard and read all the smelly beagle logs he likes though ;)
Jun 26 19:42:29 <djlewis> mdp: reminds me I practically run over a deer every day I drive.
Jun 26 19:43:14 <mdp> djlewis, *sigh*, yes...I drive our roads here in fear
Jun 26 19:43:43 <dwery> where do you guys live?
Jun 26 19:44:00 <HeadAche> Texas!
Jun 26 19:44:12 <HeadAche> Best country in the united states
Jun 26 19:44:14 <djlewis> Arkansas
Jun 26 19:44:17 <mdp> dwery, northeast ohio
Jun 26 19:44:27 <dwery> and you all have deers?
Jun 26 19:44:46 <djlewis> and we dont require passports to travel 50 states
Jun 26 19:44:50 <mdp> dwery, like giant rats
Jun 26 19:44:53 <dwery> sounds nice, unless you drive into one :)
Jun 26 19:45:19 <djlewis> then its best to clean it in the woods and take the meat home
Jun 26 19:45:48 <mdp> djlewis, except for the high probability of tainted meat..but yeah ;)
Jun 26 19:46:26 <djlewis> tainted by a cars bumper?
Jun 26 19:46:35 <mdp> by the ruptured gut sack
Jun 26 19:51:24 <djlewis> mdp: that might work on the exotic burrito ;)
Jun 26 19:51:42 <mdp> ok, now I'm not hungry any longer ;)
Jun 26 19:52:25 <HeadAche> I'll just update my entire kernel... :p
Jun 26 19:58:48 <woglinde> lumidudm
Jun 26 20:11:16 <Chocobo> Hi all, I am trying to set bootargs on an xM (rev. C1).  at the uboot prompt I do: "mmc init"  followed by "fatload mmc 0 0x80300000 uImage" and I get this error message:  "** Can't read from device 0 **  ** Unable to use mmc 0:1 for fatload **"
Jun 26 20:11:20 <Chocobo> any ideas?
Jun 26 20:11:36 <koen> mmc rescan
Jun 26 20:11:55 <Chocobo> "mmc list" returns "OMAP SD/MMC: 0"
Jun 26 20:12:33 <Chocobo> koen, same error.
Jun 26 20:12:49 <Chocobo> sorry, the same error occurs when using fatload.
Jun 26 20:13:52 <Chocobo> Oh I didn't see this... this is actually the first error message returned when executing the fatload command:  "MMC: block number 0x1 exceeds max(0x0)"
Jun 26 20:15:46 <woglinde>  0:0 0:1
Jun 26 20:17:00 <Chocobo> I just tried 0:0, 0:1 and 0:2  with no luck.  I am using the SD card that came with the beagleboard if that helps.
Jun 26 20:19:18 <HeadAche> The voltage level on the camera connector data lines is 1.8v right?
Jun 26 20:23:12 <HeadAche> ... I want a sandwich
Jun 26 20:27:41 <woglinde> a schnitzel
Jun 26 20:30:10 <mranostay> no lunch before a meeting. this won't end well :)
Jun 26 20:34:41 <_av500_> hiho
Jun 26 20:36:16 <HeadAche> I'm convinced that 95% of this irc channel are do nothing bots that give the impression that there is more than 4 people in here at a time
Jun 26 20:36:23 <prpplague> _av500_: lilo
Jun 26 20:37:24 <prpplague> HeadAche: i am sorry, i did not understand your statement: please restate or use ~ for help
Jun 26 20:37:44 <HeadAche> ~
Jun 26 20:38:23 <prpplague> HeadAche: ~ help - sorry you are far beyond the point of help
Jun 26 20:38:31 <HeadAche> :(
Jun 26 20:38:52 <prpplague> wmat: lapdock shipping
Jun 26 20:40:14 <wmat> prpplague: was it sold out?
Jun 26 20:40:30 <prpplague> wmat: close to it
Jun 26 20:40:56 <wmat> of course, they won't ship to canada
Jun 26 20:41:08 <prpplague> http://www.bensoutlet.com/products/motorola-lapdock-atrix-4g
Jun 26 20:41:11 <_av500_> HeadAche: correct
Jun 26 20:42:56 <woglinde> yo av500
Jun 26 20:43:08 <_av500_> yo
Jun 26 20:44:36 <woglinde> hm nice sakoman's multi-omap image stuff
Jun 26 20:44:47 <_av500_> was wo wie?
Jun 26 20:44:52 <_av500_> prpplague: ping
Jun 26 20:45:19 <prpplague> _av500_: pong
Jun 26 20:45:24 <_av500_> see pm
Jun 26 20:45:29 <_av500_> I need the exact steps
Jun 26 20:46:02 * wmat needs a US mail drop
Jun 26 20:46:23 <_av500_> mail?
Jun 26 20:46:29 <_av500_> you man alice?
Jun 26 20:46:34 <_av500_> you mean alice?
Jun 26 20:46:37 <wmat> yeah, physical mail
Jun 26 20:46:51 <wmat> the outlet places never ship to canada
Jun 26 20:47:12 <wmat> which makes no sense, as everyone knows Canada is the chosen land
Jun 26 20:51:59 <mdp> wmat, I was told that Canada is America's hat, is that the same?
Jun 26 20:52:42 <_av500_> the chosen hat
Jun 26 20:52:48 <_av500_> pizza hat
Jun 26 20:52:54 <woglinde> taco
Jun 26 20:53:32 <wmat> we're more like America's toupee
Jun 26 20:53:33 <Chocobo> Is there a place to download the image of the SD card that came with my mX?
Jun 26 20:54:06 <Chocobo> http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/  <--- this looks promising
Jun 26 20:54:29 <woglinde> Chocobo make one yourself *g*
Jun 26 20:54:40 <woglinde> like real men does
Jun 26 20:54:49 <Chocobo> I f'd up my uEnv.txt :/
Jun 26 20:55:02 <woglinde> and?
Jun 26 20:55:09 <woglinde> no one needs one
Jun 26 20:55:12 <woglinde> use serial console
Jun 26 20:55:34 <Chocobo> woglinde, I am for now...  but I need to get the graphical interface back up.
Jun 26 20:55:41 <woglinde> o.O
Jun 26 20:55:54 <woglinde> what was special on your uEnv
Jun 26 20:56:35 <Chocobo> dvimode=
Jun 26 20:56:38 <HeadAche> I saved my old boot directory, I dont have my beagle near me, but I can put the uEnv.txt info on here later
Jun 26 20:56:56 <HeadAche> Just look at the irc logs if you cant stay
Jun 26 20:57:21 <woglinde> dvimode isnt special
Jun 26 20:57:27 <HeadAche> I also tared up the filesystem before I deleted it, I installed gcc and g++ though
Jun 26 20:57:43 <Chocobo> Ok, thanks HeadAche.   I might be able to fix it... but I am tryting to change the resolution and I can't quite figure out the syntax.
Jun 26 20:57:57 <HeadAche> I would say I'd post a link to megaupload, but I think they are having legal problems
Jun 26 20:59:07 <HeadAche> Try this: dvimode="hd720 omapfb.vram=0:8M,1:4M,2:4M"
Jun 26 20:59:39 <woglinde> http://www.sakoman.com/OMAP/how-to-change-the-display-resolution.html
Jun 26 20:59:44 <Chocobo> ahhh!  thanks I was doing hd720p!
Jun 26 21:05:07 <smplman> woglinde: is that your site?
Jun 26 21:05:16 <smplman> nvrmnd
Jun 26 21:05:36 <smplman> sakoman: how does that gnome build run on an XM?
Jun 26 21:05:56 <woglinde> no
Jun 26 21:06:05 <woglinde> but I am a sakoman fanboy
Jun 26 21:06:14 <smplman> yea the site is nice
Jun 26 21:07:19 <smplman> I'm a fan of rcn-ee
Jun 26 21:07:25 <HeadAche> kernel upgraded, crosses fingers
Jun 26 21:07:35 <woglinde> HeadAche uhm?
Jun 26 21:07:41 <woglinde> updating kernel is easy
Jun 26 21:07:48 <HeadAche> I dont have linux/media.h :|
Jun 26 21:07:54 <woglinde> o.O
Jun 26 21:08:37 <mdp> wmat, or America's "comb-over"
Jun 26 21:14:38 <HeadAche> ill be back, going to blackeye'd pea :D
Jun 26 21:15:00 <woglinde> no thanks
Jun 26 21:24:47 <woglinde> hm steve should update the site to uEnv.txt
Jun 26 21:24:50 <woglinde> or add
Jun 26 21:27:29 <Sh0rtWave> Anyone here build gst-openmax for beagleboard?
Jun 26 21:28:16 <woglinde> not yet
Jun 26 21:28:38 <woglinde> will try gstreamer-ti first with 3.2 kernel
Jun 26 21:31:42 <Sh0rtWave> gstreamer-ti?
Jun 26 21:31:48 <Sh0rtWave> Different package?
Jun 26 21:32:09 <woglinde> you could try gstreamer-dsp too
Jun 26 21:32:23 <woglinde> or gst-dsp in short
Jun 26 21:32:30 <Sh0rtWave> gst-dsp fails on my xM
Jun 26 21:32:50 <Sh0rtWave> I get failure on dsp open
Jun 26 21:33:11 <djlewis> smplman: runs great on my old beagleboard RevC
Jun 26 21:33:38 <Sh0rtWave> I get ioctl issues with v4l2src
Jun 26 21:33:46 <_av500_> gst-ti, fst-opemax, gst-dsp
Jun 26 21:33:51 <_av500_> any more?
Jun 26 21:34:21 <Sh0rtWave> I was looking at using gst-launch with v4l2src originally
Jun 26 21:34:31 <_av500_> yes
Jun 26 21:34:39 <_av500_> that is unrelated to the dsp
Jun 26 21:35:07 <Sh0rtWave> yup yup
Jun 26 21:35:31 <Sh0rtWave> just trying to get a decent pipeline crafted.
Jun 26 21:36:36 <Sh0rtWave> when I tried to use dsph264enc, I get the DSP open error
Jun 26 21:37:07 <_av500_> which one?
Jun 26 21:37:21 <_av500_> run with CE_DEBUG=2 and pastebin
Jun 26 21:37:26 <woglinde> _av500_ the second openmax plugin
Jun 26 21:37:26 <Sh0rtWave> dsp264enc
Jun 26 21:43:00 <Sh0rtWave> CE_DEBUG=2?
Jun 26 21:43:22 <_av500_> yes
Jun 26 21:44:59 <woglinde> haha gst-dsp needs kernel .32
Jun 26 21:45:11 <_av500_> it needs dspbridge
Jun 26 21:45:19 <_av500_> and the magic set of dsp binaries
Jun 26 21:45:42 <woglinde> yeah and felipec points only to a .32 kernel in the readme
Jun 26 21:45:54 <_av500_> that was the kernel de jour back then
Jun 26 21:46:07 <woglinde> on omapzoom
Jun 26 21:46:15 <_av500_> blame the version chasers
Jun 26 21:46:35 <woglinde> av500 so you have gst-dsp running with 3.2?
Jun 26 21:46:44 <_av500_> no
Jun 26 21:46:50 <woglinde> okay
Jun 26 21:46:52 <_av500_> I am done with omap3 :)
Jun 26 21:46:58 <_av500_> and I nevr used gst :)
Jun 26 21:47:00 <woglinde> *g*
Jun 26 21:48:57 <Sh0rtWave> hah, well
Jun 26 21:49:02 <Sh0rtWave> I'm compilng from scratch here
Jun 26 21:49:06 <Sh0rtWave> so magic binaries, well
Jun 26 21:49:09 <Sh0rtWave> we'll see what happens won't we?
Jun 26 21:49:11 <Sh0rtWave> heh
Jun 26 21:49:12 <_av500_> scrathc is good
Jun 26 21:49:16 <_av500_> one can make linux from it
Jun 26 21:50:10 <woglinde> hm I need a faster machine glibc needs 45 minutes
Jun 26 21:50:29 <mru> that's not very speedy
Jun 26 21:51:11 <_av500_> 45 minutes to load?
Jun 26 21:51:46 <woglinde> okays its btibake nearly from scratch
Jun 26 21:51:53 <woglinde> but its way to long
Jun 26 21:52:23 <_av500_> on the target?
Jun 26 21:52:28 <woglinde> no
Jun 26 21:52:32 <woglinde> on my phenom
Jun 26 21:53:39 <Sh0rtWave> Hrm
Jun 26 21:54:02 <Sh0rtWave> I get nothing special using CE_DEBUG=2
Jun 26 21:59:20 <Sh0rtWave> think I'm quitting for tday
Jun 26 22:01:06 <HeadAche> wait!
Jun 26 22:01:28 <HeadAche> I'm getting the following doing build root:
Jun 26 22:01:36 <HeadAche> checking for linux/media.h... no
Jun 26 22:01:45 <HeadAche> ERROR: Kernel header file not found or not usable!
Jun 26 22:01:52 <HeadAche> when building media-ctl
Jun 26 22:01:55 <HeadAche> any ideas?
Jun 26 22:03:24 <HeadAche> (I got the camera using the precompiled images working yesterday, thanks again for the info, but now I'm trying to get a custom sensor to work, and I need to remove the i2c communication, but to do that I need to be able to compile everything)
Jun 26 22:04:03 <woglinde> o.O
Jun 26 22:04:07 <woglinde> which build env
Jun 26 22:04:11 <woglinde> and which kernel
Jun 26 22:05:21 <HeadAche> git clone git://github.com/MaxGalemin/buildroot.git - linux kernel being cross compiled is version 3.2.8, my host kernel is 3.2.0-25
Jun 26 22:06:28 <woglinde> host kernel doesnt count
Jun 26 22:06:46 <HeadAche> I would hope not, but it could be looking in the wrong place
Jun 26 22:06:54 <woglinde> sue
Jun 26 22:06:56 <woglinde> sure
Jun 26 22:07:11 <woglinde> give the kernel-driver the right kernel-src-dir
Jun 26 22:07:20 <woglinde> where you compiled the target kernel
Jun 26 22:09:36 <HeadAche> It is compiling media-ctl, I just type make, I could change the ./configure parameters, but I'm not sure what to change. Have a look here: http://paste2.org/p/2060944
Jun 26 22:12:51 <woglinde> where does buildroot installs the kernel header
Jun 26 22:13:28 <woglinde> you need maybee to add -I where_buildroot_installs_kernelheader/ to CFLAGS
Jun 26 22:15:11 <HeadAche> The entire kernel souce is at buildroot/output/build/linux-3.2.8 -- I'll try adding the CFLAG, but it is failing at configure, not in gcc
Jun 26 22:15:39 <HeadAche> ls
Jun 26 22:17:51 <HeadAche> I think I found the problem: --with-kernel-headers=/home/awright/beagle/buildroot/output/host/usr/arm-unknown-linux-
Jun 26 22:18:04 <HeadAche> I'll make than a symlink back to the correct path
Jun 26 22:22:24 <HeadAche> Wait no, wordwrap got me: --with-kernel-headers=/home/awright/beagle/buildroot/output/host/usr/arm-unknown-linux-gnueabi/sysroot/usr/include
Jun 26 22:23:56 <HeadAche> Looks like kernel headers, but is missing media.h, which exists in the build directory, I'll rename the sysroot include to something else and symlink back to the build dir
Jun 26 22:27:36 <HeadAche> configure: error: C preprocessor "/home/awright/beagle/buildroot/output/host/usr/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-cpp" fails sanity check
Jun 26 22:27:36 <HeadAche> See `config.log' for more details.
Jun 26 22:29:54 <tripzero> you're compiler is insane!
Jun 26 22:29:56 <HeadAche> config.log doesnt look like it has any errors in it, just an exit(1) appears out of nowhere
Jun 26 22:30:09 <HeadAche> I wouldnt doubt it, code sourcery :p
Jun 26 22:30:19 <tripzero> would you expect any logic from an insane compiler log?
Jun 26 22:31:59 <HeadAche> I'll try just copying over media.h to the old kernel header path
Jun 26 22:32:05 <HeadAche> I think I liked the other error better
Jun 26 22:35:12 <HeadAche> Oh, make killed my symlink
Jun 26 22:36:37 <HeadAche> I'll do an old fashion copy
Jun 26 22:51:41 <HeadAche> I tried copying media.h over from the new kernel include to the old kernel include and got configure to say it wasnt usuable
Jun 26 22:51:46 <HeadAche> what does that even mean
Jun 26 23:01:32 <HeadAche> I figured out how to disable the check in the configure script, but everytime I type make it autogenerates a new configure script and I dont know what parameters to pass make if any after configure finished
Jun 26 23:01:52 <wmat> mdp: love it, America's comb-over
Jun 26 23:05:26 <HeadAche> I'll try getting the latest media-ctl from git
Jun 26 23:05:29 <HeadAche> ls
Jun 26 23:08:12 <HeadAche> oh well, enough for one day, cya all
Jun 27 00:03:54 <trelane> is there a way to make the mac address on the Pandaboard ES persistant?
Jun 27 00:04:26 <trelane> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr de:ad:be:ef:00:00
Jun 27 00:04:29 <trelane> also... LOL
Jun 27 00:09:27 <trelane> rcn-ee, do you have a usb wifi that works with the bone?  Rather than playing whackamole if there's a known good that'd help
Jun 27 00:10:31 <rcn-ee> my carl9170 based one seems to always work on the bone..
Jun 27 00:12:43 <trelane> thanks
Jun 27 00:13:51 <rcn-ee> its the small rtlwifi ones that are a pain..
Jun 27 00:15:07 <rcn-ee> there's a couple perfect sdio/uart based wifi chip that would be perfect as a cape..
Jun 27 00:15:55 <trelane> agreed
Jun 27 00:16:24 <trelane> looks like my little atheros is an AR 9271
Jun 27 00:16:38 <trelane> and it tends to lock up after awhile
Jun 27 00:18:13 <trelane> rcn-ee, also got your ubuntu/kernel running on the panda es, is there a way to make the mac addresses persistent?
Jun 27 00:18:20 <rcn-ee> the thing i like about the ar9170, even the firmware was gpl'd, the 'carl9170' is the driver based off the community firmware.. i have a couple that's been running 24/7..
Jun 27 00:18:54 <rcn-ee> the easiest way is to place a random mac address in /etc/network/interfaces ...
Jun 27 00:19:07 <trelane> will do
Jun 27 00:19:27 <rcn-ee> if your running any of my images, there's an example commented out todo that.. (except the example doesn't work, i picked a random number that isn't valid.. opps.  ;) )
Jun 27 00:19:49 <trelane> no worries I can generate a workable mac address
Jun 27 00:20:43 <rcn-ee> other then the panda/beagle i have a couple more boards that need the same workaround.. so i never bothered looking at the non-upstreamable beagle/panda die-id to mac patch..
Jun 27 00:21:12 <trelane> rcn-ee, and I'm going to ask the forbidden question, any chance of support for the Pi?
Jun 27 00:21:22 * trelane dons kevlar and orders one of those bunkers from the history channel people
Jun 27 00:21:58 <rcn-ee> got my shipping notice on monday... it's suppot to arrive on friday. .;)  except i have a imx6sabrelite arriving too. ;) it's going to be a fun weekend. ;)
Jun 27 00:22:07 <trelane> sounds like it!
Jun 27 00:22:21 <trelane> I just got hte panda working and am STUNNED at how snappy the performance is
Jun 27 00:22:58 <trelane> I'm assuming you have one of those little realtek's for testing and it's just a no go?
Jun 27 00:22:59 <rcn-ee> it's pretty quick, and i know we are still missing the 1.2Ghz mode..
Jun 27 00:23:17 <trelane> is that a uboot issue, a kernel cpufreq issue, or?
Jun 27 00:23:38 <rcn-ee> i have 3-5... 1 works all the time..  the rest they fail more then they work... and they seem to be all reference designs..
Jun 27 00:23:39 <trelane> clock handling on the beaglebone has been both impressive and miserly
Jun 27 00:23:53 <trelane> rcn-ee, I'm suspecting firmware issue of some sort?
Jun 27 00:24:06 <rcn-ee> for 1.2ghz operation they need the thermo driver working...
Jun 27 00:24:11 <trelane> aah
Jun 27 00:24:14 <rcn-ee> i think they are just cheap. ;)
Jun 27 00:24:18 <trelane> good safety tip, that!
Jun 27 00:24:38 <trelane> don't need my panda melting!
Jun 27 00:25:17 <trelane> do you know of anyone shipping the carl9170 chips right now?
Jun 27 00:26:40 <rcn-ee> here's the best list.. http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/carl9170  it's now an older chipset so they are getting a littl harder to find..
Jun 27 00:27:33 <rcn-ee> i got the extended range airlive, with nice large dual 3db attentens, perfect for an outdoor weatherstation..
Jun 27 00:30:35 <trelane> weather geek 'eh?
Jun 27 00:30:54 <trelane> had to stop when my car insurance people got suspicious about the constant hail damage
Jun 27 00:31:20 <trelane> they weren't really buying what came after "see what had happened was..." anymore
Jun 27 00:32:23 <trelane> also hail between golf ball and baseball size is pretty scary with a sunroof
Jun 27 00:35:58 <rcn-ee> it's mostly for watching the snowmobile trail... ;)
Jun 27 00:37:35 <trelane> so you aren't in the tornado belt then?  I'm stuck here in Indiana, we have corn, and tornados, and I can tell you the corn isn't worth watching
Jun 27 00:38:51 <rcn-ee> nope, norther mn, very close to the canadian boarder, it's mostly cold, lots of mosquitoes, ice fishing and snomobiling. ;)
Jun 27 00:41:06 <trelane> rcn-ee, not bad :)
Jun 27 00:42:20 <rcn-ee> it's all good... ;) i feel a little bad with the 2 new hires we just picked up, and left the big city life.. ;)
Jun 27 00:43:30 <rcn-ee> damn, really wish i had labedl this 12 pack of homebrew, very good beer.
Jun 27 00:44:14 <trelane> home brewer?
Jun 27 00:44:33 <trelane> I'm drinking a Sam Adams Saison but have a batch of amber ale in secondary
Jun 27 00:44:52 <trelane> Session
Jun 27 00:44:59 <trelane> Belgian spelling
Jun 27 00:45:23 <rcn-ee> i'm starting to think it's the natural thing for an engineer to do after awhile..  so many engineers in the field that homebrew..
Jun 27 00:54:21 <yosbi> hi
Jun 27 00:56:12 <trelane> rcn-ee: my lab manager home brews
Jun 27 00:56:28 <trelane> I think it's just an "I'd rather just build this myself" mentality
Jun 27 01:00:06 <rcn-ee> very true..
Jun 27 01:06:50 <trelane> rcn-ee, do you take hardware submissions?
Jun 27 01:07:51 <trelane> I would like to ship you one of those newer revision atheros if you don't have it
Jun 27 01:09:15 <rcn-ee> oh, those.. i haven't worked on anything with the wifi stack.. (other then adding vid/pid's..)
Jun 27 01:13:34 <trelane> who do I beat on for that?
Jun 27 01:20:39 <bobsickle> can anybody recommend a resource for learning how to optimise linux to boot really fast? (on an xM specifically, but a specific resource is not essential)
Jun 27 01:26:21 <trelane> bobsickle, create a monolithic kernel with only the drivers loaded you need, disable unneeded services
Jun 27 01:26:47 <rcn-ee> trelane, when you get one, ping me with the vid/pid, i'll help you test the images, then once it works, just got to email linux-wireless..
Jun 27 01:27:03 <trelane> rcn-ee, I have one
Jun 27 01:27:18 <trelane> the nice thing is the SMA connector sticking out the side
Jun 27 01:27:18 <bobsickle> trelane: hmmm, is that all?
Jun 27 01:27:45 <trelane> rcn 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n
Jun 27 01:28:36 <trelane> rcn-ee, ^^
Jun 27 01:30:48 <rcn-ee> humm, that one is in mainline.. http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=blob;f=drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/hif_usb.c;hb=HEAD#l28
Jun 27 01:32:02 <trelane> glitchy at best :/
Jun 27 01:32:04 <rcn-ee> humm it's in 3.2.x too, maybe it's firmware?
Jun 27 01:32:12 <trelane> could be?
Jun 27 01:32:20 <rcn-ee> this is on the beaglebone right?
Jun 27 01:32:26 <trelane> running 3.2-psp15
Jun 27 01:32:29 <trelane> yep
Jun 27 01:33:07 <rcn-ee> yeap, that has most of the musb fixes... based on irc this morning, joel (ti) is going to rebase that tree again, so hopefully we get more usb fixes.. (but it's a massive patchset)
Jun 27 01:33:30 <trelane> is there newer firmware?
Jun 27 01:34:41 <trelane> and yeah (as the -psp kernel would indicate) I'm on the bone
Jun 27 01:34:54 <rcn-ee> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master
Jun 27 01:35:05 <rcn-ee> nothing since 2011-06-25
Jun 27 01:35:25 <rcn-ee> for the ath9k
Jun 27 01:36:09 <trelane> damn shame because that SMA connector is nice
Jun 27 01:36:29 <rcn-ee> have you tried the disable musb_dma trick, it works for some users..
Jun 27 01:36:39 <trelane> no? link to trick?
Jun 27 01:36:48 <trelane> and is performance going to suffer?
Jun 27 01:37:09 <rcn-ee> yeap, it disables the dma engine behind the musb... so the core gets to do more transfers..
Jun 27 01:37:26 <trelane> worth a try
Jun 27 01:38:04 <trelane> is there a link somewhere to docs on how to accomplish this?
Jun 27 01:38:20 <rcn-ee> basicly, you get to rebuild the kernel. (script/source here: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev/tree/am33x-v3.2 using the am33x-v3.2 branch)
Jun 27 01:38:58 <rcn-ee> and you enable MUSB_PIOA mode in menuconfig: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev/blob/am33x-v3.2/patches/defconfig#L3145
Jun 27 01:40:34 <trelane> noted, I'll rebuild tomorrow if I have range issues with the usb wifi I just ordered with your chipset
Jun 27 01:40:52 <trelane> btw thank you for both the help, and the hard work on your minimal image.  It's much appreciated.
Jun 27 01:42:06 <rcn-ee> your welcome..  you can kinda of tell, i was tired with what was out there. ;)
Jun 27 01:43:31 <trelane> rcn-ee, you should have come to penguicon, not sure I could have been more critical of the current system
Jun 27 01:46:10 <trelane> commentary sent privately so I don't offend the channel, or subject jkridner to it again (he's a nice guy, it's not his fault, and the beaglebone is awesome hardware!)
Jun 27 01:50:19 <ds2> the current system is fine as is.
Jun 27 01:56:10 <mranostay> people being nice in IRC?
Jun 27 01:56:14 <mranostay> is that even allowed?
Jun 27 02:02:14 <trelane> mranostay, I learned to do so because I can be _INCREDIBLY_ caustic when you cross me.  So I try to be civil in a failed attempt to keep everyone happy
Jun 27 02:02:40 <trelane> I have a rule, have no opinions larger than the firearms you bring to back 'em up :)
Jun 27 02:09:45 <mdp> trelane, we prefer verbose public scoldings of TI's shortcomings so we can use them to justify more resources to mgmt.
Jun 27 02:11:09 <trelane> mdp: speaking as the PR guy for Funtoo, I can state that OE build/package system kills kittens, and evolved from a design process which entailed a high speed head-on collission between portage and apt/dpkg which had no survivors.
Jun 27 02:11:44 <ds2> OE is prefectly fine
Jun 27 02:12:11 <ds2> while I personally don't care for OE, OE is prefectly fine system. it does what it needs to do.
Jun 27 02:12:47 <trelane> it's a QA nightmare, I've seen recent bone images where cron doesn't work because OE didn't install sufficient deps, and you get spam to syslog griping instead of a fix
Jun 27 02:12:49 <ds2> the abomination is the Android build system.
Jun 27 02:13:04 <mdp> hrm, yeah, I'm on my third company happily building products using OE
Jun 27 02:13:16 <ds2> eh? OE is one of the more QA able build systems out there.
Jun 27 02:13:32 <mdp> trelane, that's a distro problem...not OE
Jun 27 02:14:15 <trelane> ds2, I haven't used Android's build system, but if it's worse, that must have taken some effort
Jun 27 02:14:19 <mdp> it's important to be precise in the target of your complaints ;)
Jun 27 02:14:38 <trelane> mdp, then the line between OE and Angstrom must be wider than is perceptible using it
Jun 27 02:17:54 <ds2> OE and Angstroms are not peers
Jun 27 02:18:12 <ds2> to compare them is like comparing trees to fruits
Jun 27 02:18:28 <trelane> fair enough, then it's Angstrom that my criticism should be directed towards
Jun 27 02:18:35 <mdp> OE builds are only as good as the metadata that drives them.
Jun 27 02:19:43 <mdp> trelane, certainly, I've worked with many my previous customer-specific OE-generated sdk builds that don't have those issues.
Jun 27 02:19:58 <mdp> Angstrom can always use more contributors too
Jun 27 02:20:54 <trelane> mdp: I've got my hands full keeping the funtoo devs in line
Jun 27 02:20:59 <trelane> they only gave me a whip and a chair for that job :(
Jun 27 02:22:50 <mdp> heh
Jun 27 02:23:04 * mdp is content to be an individual contributor again.
Jun 27 02:25:08 <trelane> I guess that the whip and chair is fair after the bayonet incident... but how was I supposed to know that LARP armor isn't real? Totally accidental you see...
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