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Jun 30 07:18:08 <_av500_> mranostay: +1
Jun 30 07:18:15 <_av500_> make it "tall"
Jun 30 07:58:01 <trelane> is beagleboard.org a casualty in the AmazonAWS massacre?
Jun 30 07:58:36 <aholler_> there is again a massacre?
Jun 30 07:59:04 <aholler> yes, looks so
Jun 30 08:05:23 <aholler> another storm by clouds
Jun 30 08:13:52 <aholler> the dashboard mumbles something about jkridner should press the reboot button ;)
Jun 30 08:32:56 <trelane> aholler, ok, no big deal :)
Jun 30 08:33:12 <trelane> presently trying to wrap my head around RRDtool for graphing sensor data
Jun 30 08:33:15 <trelane> RRDtool is HARD :(
Jun 30 08:33:49 <dwery> trelane: been there, dropped rrdtool :D
Jun 30 08:34:29 <trelane> dwery, is there a better option?  I'm simply wanting pretty graphs for things like a thermister, light sensor, a gpio, and watching the cpu scaler
Jun 30 08:34:45 <dwery> trelane: in the end I developed a couple of perl scripts, given that I don't need round robin capability
Jun 30 08:35:09 <trelane> pretty sure I'm going to need it, sadly
Jun 30 08:35:15 <dwery> there are a lot of graphing libraries, even in js
Jun 30 08:35:55 <dwery> if you need it, rrd is the only option. but be sure to keep raw data for a while
Jun 30 08:38:22 <trelane> I really only need the raw data for a day or less
Jun 30 08:38:35 <trelane> because if the pump doesn't turn on on time and I miss it for longer than that I will know because dead fish tend to stink :)
Jun 30 08:40:01 <dwery> :D
Jun 30 08:40:34 <trelane> I'm eventually going to dump this data to a JSON file as well for ZenOSS but I want local graphs as well
Jun 30 08:40:55 <trelane> solving world hunger should _REALLY_ be easier than this
Jun 30 08:41:19 <trelane> I mean all I'm doing is making crops grow 4x as fast, organically, and producing fish essentially for free in the process... it's not like that should be hard :(
Jun 30 08:41:58 <dwery> trelane: so what's the point of using rrd?
Jun 30 08:42:13 <trelane> dwery, historical trending data for things like sunlight and temperature
Jun 30 08:42:18 <trelane> those are the ones I really need history on
Jun 30 08:42:31 <dwery> ok, reasonable
Jun 30 08:42:32 <trelane> my goal is eventually to integrate controlled grow lights for climates that don't get enough sun
Jun 30 08:42:54 <trelane> so that if the total detected sunlight on a given day is below <something> I can graph both that and the amount of time the lights ran to correct it
Jun 30 08:43:07 <trelane> temperature simply for almanac reasons
Jun 30 08:43:26 <trelane> I really don't plan to graph CPU or pump status out past 24 hours but if I have to deal with an RRD I might as well store that data there too
Jun 30 08:43:58 <trelane> interestingly if you run your pump for 15 samples out of every 60 I thikn the average over a day is .25 anyway :)
Jun 30 08:43:59 <dwery> sounds a nice project
Jun 30 08:44:20 <trelane> a 12x20 greenhouse can feed a family of four indefinately
Jun 30 08:44:29 <trelane> 12'x20'
Jun 30 08:44:35 <trelane> just so oyu don't think I'm using metric or yards or something
Jun 30 08:45:19 <trelane> produce a few hundred pounds of fish, crayfish, shrimp, crab a year, and vegitables
Jun 30 08:46:03 <dwery> sounds like a good retirement plan
Jun 30 08:46:10 <dwery> :D
Jun 30 08:46:23 <dwery> got to go.. see you
Jun 30 08:46:27 <dwery> and keep us informed ;)
Jun 30 08:46:28 <trelane> later, thanks for the help!
Jun 30 08:46:30 <trelane> will do
Jun 30 09:04:57 <tjhowse> I'm trying to get a playstation eye working with a beaglebone running 3.2.5+ archlinux
Jun 30 09:05:20 <tjhowse> I can't seem to find the gspca_ov534 driver for this version of the kernel
Jun 30 09:06:19 <aholler> zgrep GSPCA /proc/config.gz
Jun 30 09:06:32 <tjhowse> the driver's in /lib/modules/3.2.11+/drivers/media/video/gspca
Jun 30 09:06:43 <tjhowse> but that's an older version
Jun 30 09:08:09 <tjhowse> CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_OV534=m
Jun 30 09:08:40 <tjhowse> m means from a module, right?
Jun 30 09:09:06 <aholler> yes, so you might have to install it
Jun 30 09:09:33 <tjhowse> opkg install kernel-module-gspca-ov534 says it's already installed and up-to-date
Jun 30 09:10:11 <aholler> archlinux uses opkg?
Jun 30 09:10:24 <tjhowse> but modprobe gspca-ov534 fails
Jun 30 09:10:25 <tjhowse> yes
Jun 30 09:12:45 <tjhowse> root@beaglebone:~# opkg install kernel-module-gspca-ov534
Jun 30 09:12:45 <tjhowse> Package kernel-module-gspca-ov534 (3.2-r10d+gitre8004dad869568692ca2a45c04e8464ce48cc4d7) installed in root is up to date.
Jun 30 09:12:55 <aholler> so ask them, not here.
Jun 30 09:13:31 <tjhowse> I'll give #archlinux a try
Jun 30 09:15:15 <aholler> must be a new trend that every single module has to be installed explicit
Jun 30 09:15:45 <aholler> at least in the opkg-world
Jun 30 09:16:23 <aholler> some must have been hit by storage costs ;)
Jun 30 09:17:33 <tjhowse> hm, can't talk in #archlinux, must require registration or something
Jun 30 09:17:36 <tjhowse> how tiresome
Jun 30 09:54:15 <tjhowse> I want to upgrade to 3.2.14, should I grab Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.06.18.img.xz ?
Jun 30 09:54:25 <tjhowse> from here: http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ ?
Jun 30 11:31:11 <MattRichardson> Hi. On a BeagleBone with the Angstrom image, how to I set up wget to be able to pull down https urls?
Jun 30 11:39:59 <gurgalof> my bone runs perfect on 720MHz, i would like to try overclock it...
Jun 30 11:40:15 <gurgalof> which sourcefile in the kernel should i play with?
Jun 30 11:48:04 <woglinde> gurgalof why you need to overclock it? playing doom?
Jun 30 12:13:23 <vintle> hi all
Jun 30 12:17:09 <vintle> Anyone know of an Angstrom site with a decent userguide as to updates etc on BBone?
Jun 30 12:31:13 <_av500_> the angstrom website
Jun 30 12:35:01 <ccssnet> lol
Jun 30 12:37:55 <trelane> dwery, http://www.famzah.net/rrdwizard/rrdcreate.php?  <--- this man is a hero to mankind
Jun 30 12:45:28 <nick87> !list
Jun 30 15:33:41 <aholler> hmm, short powercut here, all my arm-devices have survived, but the x86 stuff all died ;)
Jun 30 15:41:06 <agmlego> More a question of the power supplies (and how much capacitance they present) than the architecture.
Jun 30 17:38:35 <dwery> trelane: impressive!
Jun 30 17:39:21 <woglinde> hm
Jun 30 17:39:22 <woglinde> ?
Jun 30 17:45:56 <guyzmo> heyall
Jun 30 17:46:22 <guyzmo> python-curses package is incomplete
Jun 30 17:46:41 <guyzmo> where is the python bitbake repository ? and where shall I complain ? :)
Jun 30 17:47:05 <woglinde> o.O
Jun 30 17:47:17 <woglinde> oe-core I think
Jun 30 17:47:20 <woglinde> let me see
Jun 30 17:48:16 <guyzmo> it has all the .py, but it misses _curses.so which should be in /usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/
Jun 30 17:50:04 <woglinde> which version do you have?
Jun 30 17:50:40 <guyzmo> python-curses_2.7.2-r2.12_armv7a.ipk
Jun 30 17:51:07 <guyzmo> ah right, I'm on a non-updated sdcard /o\
Jun 30 17:51:36 <woglinde> hm
Jun 30 17:51:39 <guyzmo> but it says I'm up to date
Jun 30 17:51:39 <woglinde> DESCRIPTION_${PN}-curses="Python Curses Support"
Jun 30 17:51:40 <woglinde> RDEPENDS_${PN}-curses="${PN}-core"
Jun 30 17:51:40 <woglinde> FILES_${PN}-curses="${libdir}/python2.7/curses ${libdir}/python2.7/lib-dynload/_curses.so ${libdir}/python2.7/lib-dynload/_curses_panel.so "
Jun 30 17:51:58 <guyzmo> what's the path of the recipe ?
Jun 30 17:52:01 <woglinde> so it should be packaged
Jun 30 17:52:17 <woglinde> oe-core
Jun 30 17:52:19 <woglinde> ./meta/recipes-devtools/python/python-2.7-manifest.inc
Jun 30 17:52:35 <woglinde> oe-core version is now 2.7.3
Jun 30 17:53:25 <woglinde> is _curses_panel.so there?
Jun 30 17:53:52 <guyzmo> nope
Jun 30 17:55:58 <woglinde> hm hm
Jun 30 17:56:23 <woglinde> maybee its in the python-dev package
Jun 30 17:56:25 <woglinde> try install irt
Jun 30 17:56:27 <woglinde> args
Jun 30 17:56:34 <woglinde> try install it and see
Jun 30 18:03:11 <guyzmo> nope, it does not
Jun 30 18:03:34 <guyzmo> but I feel like python-curses-dev will do
Jun 30 18:03:39 <guyzmo> (in recommandatinos)
Jun 30 18:03:44 <woglinde> oh
Jun 30 18:03:48 <woglinde> yes try it
Jun 30 18:03:56 <guyzmo> han
Jun 30 18:04:05 <guyzmo> it's an unsatisfied recommandation ...
Jun 30 18:05:45 <woglinde> re dwery
Jun 30 18:08:02 <guyzmo> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.05/ipk/eglibc/armv7a/python/python-curses_2.7.2-r3.17_armv7a.ipk provides it ...
Jun 30 18:08:39 <guyzmo> but I don't understand why opkg update did not get r3.17
Jun 30 18:15:31 <woglinde> hi crofton
Jun 30 19:32:03 <Wutingstton> @Ti Employes, if some here. if Ti actually does have access sgx source code, then why are there still hardfp driver missing for omap3?
Jun 30 19:33:58 <Wutingstton> sgx 530
Jun 30 19:42:55 <Wutingstton> This Situation (no opensource or hardfp libs), I really don't like. Actually I probably won't buy any ti omap device, anymore and for sure nothing with powervr gpu. I mean, omap3 devices do provit the most on hardfp userspace but to have it not supported by Ti is simply not acceptable.
Jun 30 20:19:21 <aholler> agmlego: not to forget the less power arm-devices usually are needing. maybe the capacitance in the copper (wires) is already enough to power them for a fraction of a second ;)
Jun 30 20:38:51 <mranostay> heh i love Wutingstton idealism
Jun 30 20:49:03 <woglinde> mranostay sure but I could not answer him
Jun 30 20:49:19 <woglinde> but he should search the irc log
Jun 30 20:49:34 <woglinde> to get his answer
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