**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 06 02:59:58 2012
Jul 06 04:12:09 <mranostay> i haven't touched Android since i got paid to do it :)
Jul 06 04:13:41 <ds2> eh?
Jul 06 04:13:53 <mranostay> scroll up
Jul 06 04:26:02 <ds2> so you don't do any work? :)
Jul 06 04:33:02 <mranostay> ds2: cute :)
Jul 06 04:33:12 <mranostay> no just not that
Jul 06 08:31:25 <aholler> nice, cisco now wants to control users routers and sniff their traffic
Jul 06 08:32:48 <aholler> I wonder whats going on in the brain of managers responsible for such
Jul 06 08:34:20 <dm8tbr> aholler: 'mhhhh, new way to milk people for monetizeable information. shiiiiny. moar bonuses for me. MUST. ROLL. OUT'
Jul 06 08:35:41 <aholler> they must have clouds in their head
Jul 06 08:36:15 <aholler> or even storms
Jul 06 08:47:02 <Russ> ahh, my debian router will never betray me
Jul 06 09:19:16 <stuk_gen> why on bb xM, something i get off the eth0...cool connman -.-
Jul 06 09:23:33 <stuk_gen> sometimes**
Jul 06 09:27:13 <snkt> hello all
Jul 06 09:36:53 <snkt> can anyone help me .... which are the ARM development boards in market which support linux with multiple screen resolution support ?
Jul 06 09:44:29 <mru> all of them
Jul 06 09:49:07 <koen> prp^2: I see what happened, the ELC-E page links to the linuxcon cfp
Jul 06 11:37:06 <Qbert_> Trying to angstrom on a beagle with read-only rootfs. I specified in uBoot to mount the rootfs as ro. But it seems to get re-mounted according to syslogd.
Jul 06 11:38:37 <Qbert_> What can cause this to happen?
Jul 06 11:39:02 * LetoThe2nd would suspect a systemd unit.
Jul 06 11:41:10 <aholler> fstab
Jul 06 11:42:00 <LetoThe2nd> if the rfs is in the fstab, then yes.
Jul 06 11:43:21 <Qbert_> Yep, rootfs is in fstab.
Jul 06 11:44:03 <Qbert_> Should I remove it?
Jul 06 11:51:30 <Qbert_> Removed rootfs from fstab and rootfs is now read only. Thanks!
Jul 06 11:51:55 * [IDC]Dragon__ summons av500
Jul 06 12:19:55 <[IDC]Dragon__> av500, hashing the output buffers didn't help, strangely the decoder immediately releases them, in order
Jul 06 12:44:11 <_av500_> ?
Jul 06 12:44:26 <_av500_> so what do you get back as buffers?
Jul 06 12:44:55 <_av500_> and where does the reordering happen then?
Jul 06 13:23:38 <[IDC]Dragon__> av500, I really don't know what's going on
Jul 06 13:25:06 <[IDC]Dragon__> the decoder behaves as if not keeping the given output buffers
Jul 06 13:26:18 <[IDC]Dragon__> maybe it decodes to its own framebuffers, and copies one when ready
Jul 06 14:29:16 <sabesto> does the LEDS on the bone mean anything at all?
Jul 06 14:30:07 <sabesto> used many xM, but ordered a bone to test, managed to do update and upgrade, while it was doing that it just shut down at some point
Jul 06 14:33:40 <mdp> one of them indicates that the circulatory system is operating properly
Jul 06 14:33:46 <mdp> lubba dubba
Jul 06 14:48:29 <mru> mdp: like the oil check light on a car?
Jul 06 14:50:12 <mdp> that would be neat as a heartbeat algorithm too
Jul 06 14:50:33 <mdp> but possibly alarming
Jul 06 15:05:17 <aholler> like thos old oil check lamps which gone on when the motor was already broken?
Jul 06 15:10:03 <SmashLink> Hey guys! Has anyone used PTP over the beaglebone?
Jul 06 15:10:30 <agmlego> Which PTP?
Jul 06 15:10:53 <SmashLink> oh sorry XD Precision Time Protocol
Jul 06 15:14:43 <agmlego> SmashLink: Third link on Google for "beaglebone PTP": http://sourceforge.net/p/beagleboneptp
Jul 06 15:23:08 <SmashLink> maybe it's just me because i only used sourgeforge a couple of times, but... why can't i see the code or... anything?
Jul 06 15:27:38 <aholler> there doesn't need to be code
Jul 06 15:30:27 <SmashLink> but it looks completely empty to me
Jul 06 15:39:01 <thweber> hello
Jul 06 15:40:03 <SmashLink> at least an easy question! thweber: Hello!
Jul 06 15:40:28 <thweber> is the adc working on the beaglebone?
Jul 06 15:41:00 <thweber> i use linux 3.2.18
Jul 06 15:42:47 <kkeller> thweber:  it is for me…  using: Linux beaglebone 3.2.18 #1 Wed May 23 18:20:30 CEST 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux
Jul 06 15:42:56 <linuxjacques> yeah that sf page looks empty for me too
Jul 06 15:44:00 <thweber> kkeller: how are you reading the values?
Jul 06 15:44:19 <kkeller> sysfs and node.js
Jul 06 15:44:20 <thweber> kkeller: i read from /sys/devices/platform/omap/tsc/ain3
Jul 06 15:44:31 <kkeller> cat /sys/devices/platform/omap/tsc/ain3
Jul 06 15:45:06 <kkeller> gives… 3965  as a return for me
Jul 06 15:45:40 <thweber> yes. and if you connect the pin to gnd?
Jul 06 15:46:02 * kkeller looking up the pin...
Jul 06 15:47:36 <thweber> moment
Jul 06 15:47:45 <thweber> is the schematic right?
Jul 06 15:49:49 <agmlego> Oops, sorry. Did not notice I linked a dead project.
Jul 06 15:49:59 <aleek> do the bootlodaer, which loads MLO from first partition reads the partition table? Ive created new partition table, where first parition starts at 2048 instead of 63, and it doesnt boot
Jul 06 15:51:20 <rcn-ee> aleek, sector doesn't matter.. did you mark it as bootable?
Jul 06 15:51:35 <aleek> no
Jul 06 15:51:43 <rcn-ee> try it. ;)
Jul 06 15:51:52 <aleek> ok, I see the difference, the original one is bootable
Jul 06 15:52:22 <rcn-ee> the 'sector' in a lot of wiki's actually references an ancient x-loader bug...
Jul 06 15:53:56 <thweber> how can i check what board revision i have?
Jul 06 15:54:13 <rcn-ee> sticker on ethernet..
Jul 06 15:54:19 <woglinde> thweber isnt xloader telling you
Jul 06 15:54:45 <thweber> sticker on ethernet only ends with A
Jul 06 15:54:50 <agmlego> smThis thread shows someone has gotten it to work, results forthcoming: http://e2e.ti.com/support/dsp/sitara_arm174_microprocessors/f/791/t/197961.aspx
Jul 06 15:55:15 <agmlego> Well, that is for SmashLink if/when s/he returns.
Jul 06 15:55:28 <kkeller> thweber:  I think you are looking at the wrong file… the ain numbers are off by one… HW ain3 is ain4 in sysfs
Jul 06 15:56:20 <rcn-ee> thweber, then you'll have to decode the serial number... http://beagleboard.org/static/beaglebone/latest/README.htm scroll down to the "A5" and read the paragraph
Jul 06 15:56:21 <kkeller> I also use this path but after checking both work…  /sys/bus/platform/devices/tsc/ain(number)
Jul 06 15:56:37 <thweber> woglinde: i use u-boot spl
Jul 06 15:57:12 <thweber> kkeller: you are right, the numbering is different
Jul 06 16:09:47 <angs> how can I set a GPIO as input "echo  low > direction" ?
Jul 06 16:10:08 <agmlego> Sounds right.
Jul 06 16:10:10 <angs> on beagleboard-xm
Jul 06 16:10:22 <angs> thank you agmlego
Jul 06 16:14:03 <thweber> kkeller: thanks
Jul 06 16:14:14 <thweber> it works now
Jul 06 16:14:34 <kkeller> thweber:  your welcome… glad I could finally help instead of ask :D
Jul 06 16:53:15 <mranostay> kkeller: don't be down on yourself like that :P
Jul 06 16:53:33 <kkeller> :)
Jul 06 16:53:35 <mranostay> i don't think all those years of managment have totally killed your tech skills :)
Jul 06 16:59:21 <aholler> hmm, carbonomaps
Jul 06 16:59:40 <woglinde> aholler carbon carbon?
Jul 06 17:00:53 <mranostay> wtf is carbonomaps?
Jul 06 17:01:14 <aholler> ask av500 ;)
Jul 06 17:01:53 <aholler> he evolved ;)
Jul 06 17:03:08 <kkeller> mranostay:  your right… I still have a few tech brain cells left
Jul 06 17:08:08 <mdp> kkeller, I have a cache question... ;)
Jul 06 17:15:39 <mru> do you require a coherent answer?
Jul 06 17:16:17 * mranostay kicks mru 
Jul 06 17:17:29 <aholler> does it need a workaround for an errata?
Jul 06 17:21:34 <aholler> I had to enable 3 more after switching from gcc 4.6 to 4.7
Jul 06 17:22:17 <aholler> could have been the upgrade to glibc-2.15 too
Jul 06 17:24:41 <mru> enable what?
Jul 06 17:24:51 <aholler> erratas
Jul 06 17:24:58 <aholler> workarounds for
Jul 06 17:25:24 <mru> triggered by new gcc only?
Jul 06 17:25:34 * mru curious
Jul 06 17:26:40 <angs> I would like to read one GPIO of beagleboard-xm (input) if it is logic 1 or 0. How can I implement cat /sys/class/gpio/gpio139/value in C?
Jul 06 17:26:55 <angs> does value store char or int value?
Jul 06 17:27:23 <aholler> mru: not sure, but after I've upgraded gccand glibc I experienced random segfaults which are gone after I've enabled 430973, 458693 and 460075
Jul 06 17:28:03 <aholler> but during that I recompiled everything too, so I can't really say what was the cause
Jul 06 17:28:28 <mru> what are those? don't have the doc handy...
Jul 06 17:29:16 <aholler> make menuconfig, I don't know, I just enabled what looked like it could match for my r1p3
Jul 06 17:29:30 <aholler> (hardfloat and no thumb)
Jul 06 17:30:39 <aholler> now everything seems stable again.
Jul 06 17:31:38 <mdp> mru, if anything, I require exact steps
Jul 06 17:33:41 <aholler> I assume one could find a correlation between new gcc version and appearances of new erratas ;)
Jul 06 17:59:20 <aleek> when I boot the bb-xM with broken SD, or without it, I recieve number on uart. Is it some kind of error code? Is there any table with this codes?
Jul 06 17:59:56 <aholler> It's the bootloader in rom, the number is used for boot over serial
Jul 06 18:00:37 <aholler> classic shows a 40, xm 60 and bone is unknown
Jul 06 18:01:15 <aleek> so, if the sd card is inserted and bb-xm shows 60, that means that card is somehow broken?
Jul 06 18:01:23 <aholler> yes
Jul 06 18:01:33 <aleek> :/
Jul 06 18:01:45 <aholler> it doesn't find the MLO and tries other ways to boot
Jul 06 18:04:33 <aleek> nicht gut
Jul 06 19:44:15 <koen> prpplague: congrates on the broadcom gpl victory
Jul 06 19:45:54 <mranostay> koen: did i miss something?
Jul 06 19:46:47 <prpplague> mranostay: https://plus.google.com/u/0/101339419642360856354/posts/ZZcUK5XqApv
Jul 06 19:46:51 <prpplague> koen: thanks
Jul 06 19:46:58 <prpplague> koen: it only too 9 months
Jul 06 19:47:02 <prpplague> took
Jul 06 19:47:52 <mranostay> heh damn broadcom
Jul 06 19:48:50 <mdp> read it
Jul 06 20:32:29 <jkroon> I'm trying to boot a custom built linux kernel on a beagleboard-xM, and the bootup seems to hang right after printing "Starting network...". Is this a common problem ?
Jul 06 20:32:45 <woglinde> no
Jul 06 20:40:50 <jkroon> ok
Jul 06 20:45:55 <jkroon> I built everything using buildroot from git.
Jul 06 20:46:06 <woglinde> buildroot again
Jul 06 20:46:19 <jkroon> Is it problematic ?
Jul 06 20:46:38 <jkroon> buildroot I mean
Jul 06 20:46:53 <woglinde> there were some people here the last time having trouble with buildroot
Jul 06 20:47:36 <jkroon> What do you recommend instead of buildroot ?
Jul 06 20:47:54 <woglinde> I am using openembedded
Jul 06 20:49:27 <jkroon> ok
Jul 06 20:52:21 <ds2> just build it by hand
Jul 06 20:52:30 <ds2> OE is for the lazy folks ;)
Jul 06 20:52:37 <woglinde> *g*
Jul 06 20:52:39 * Crofton|work is very lazy
Jul 06 20:52:45 <woglinde> he crofton
Jul 06 20:54:35 <jkroon> ds2, I want to :-) but I'm not that familiar with the whole linux boot process so best to start with something more easy
Jul 06 20:54:53 <woglinde> buildroot is not a linux boot process
Jul 06 20:58:55 <jkroon> woglinde, right
Jul 06 20:59:57 <jkroon> so, I think I just have the tty which init wants to start a login on setup incorrectly..
Jul 06 21:03:25 <jkroon> How do I figure out which one should be in inittab ?
Jul 06 21:05:11 <woglinde> I am using systemd
Jul 06 21:30:07 <djlewis> did woglinde read "custom built linux kernelcustom built linux kernel"
Jul 06 21:30:49 <djlewis> ;)
Jul 06 21:31:36 <woglinde> djlewis?
Jul 06 21:31:51 <djlewis> geez, my window was scrolled way back, nevermind..
Jul 06 21:36:20 * mranostay kicks djlewis 
Jul 06 21:39:25 <jet> which version of ubuntu should I choose for my beaglebone? OMAP4 arm ?
Jul 06 21:46:16 <mranostay> powerpc
Jul 06 21:48:49 <woglinde> jet the netbook remix
Jul 06 21:50:41 <jet> thanks, very useful !
Jul 06 21:51:00 <woglinde> o.O
Jul 06 21:51:05 <woglinde> that was a joke
Jul 06 21:51:54 <jet> yes, I know...
Jul 06 21:51:59 <jet> but it doesn't help me...
Jul 06 21:58:22 <jet> ah, I just found it...
Jul 06 21:58:39 <jet> thanks for the help !
Jul 06 23:00:00 <jet> so I tried the OMAP3 version with ubuntu server. When I plug it in USB to my computer, I have /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1
Jul 06 23:00:11 <jet> but when I do a screen, I can't connect to it
Jul 06 23:00:15 <jet> it just fails
Jul 06 23:54:24 <lucasrangit> hi, i'm trying to rebuild u-boot using OE/angstrom on my powerpc system, it appears the binaries for MLO have the wrong endianness. has anyone cross-compiled the boot loader from powerpc that can help me understand this?
Jul 06 23:58:54 <W1N9Zr0> nope, everyone uses x86
Jul 07 00:04:42 <lucasrangit> W1N9Zr0: fair enough. to work around this, i'm using the MLO from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ and the u-boot and kernel image i built. this boots.
Jul 07 00:09:15 <W1N9Zr0> as far as I know, MLO doesn't change very often so you're probably safe with that
Jul 07 01:29:25 <aagavin> Noob question: Can I install linux from a usb instead of a SD card onto the begalboard?
Jul 07 01:41:54 <aagavin> Noob question: Can I install linux from a usb instead of a SD card onto the begalboard?
Jul 07 01:41:56 <Eradicatore> Hi, another noob question.  Can someone explain why I don't see a /etc/network/interfaces file on my beaglebone running the latest anstrom distribution?
Jul 07 01:42:11 <Eradicatore> Is it because connmand is used instead?
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