**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 19 02:59:59 2012 Jul 19 03:54:23 * mranostay yawns Jul 19 04:16:38 hi emeb_mac Jul 19 04:19:29 and emeb as well Jul 19 04:32:08 hola mranostay! Jul 19 06:15:35 <_av500_> ahoi Jul 19 06:17:24 I'm trying to get my Beagleboard-xM rev C to output to DVI connected to my TV. It works when I boot the stock Angstrom distribution, now I'm trying to get my custom built 3.4.4 kernel and filesystem to work. I've figured out as much that I have to enable the omapfb driver, turn on frame buffer console, and pass proper boot arguments to the kernel. Anything else I'm missing ? Jul 19 06:52:22 kroon: boot angstrom;zcat /proc/config.gz >.config; make oldconfig Jul 19 06:58:02 aholler, I have the config for the angstrom, just checking of there is anything obvious I've missed before I go through it all.. Jul 19 06:58:47 I would suggest to stay with 3.2.x Jul 19 06:59:29 aholler, oh, is 3.4.x omapfb buggy ? Jul 19 07:00:03 I don't know, but ehci is Jul 19 07:00:38 * kroon googles "ehci".. Jul 19 07:00:42 and maybe more. Jul 19 07:00:50 ehci is the usb-host Jul 19 07:01:40 aholler, how could that affect the framebuffer.. ? Jul 19 07:02:48 it just is an example for problems arised since 3.2. there were a ton of not working changes in 3.3+ Jul 19 07:03:07 aholler, ok, thanks I'll give 3.2.x a shot then Jul 19 07:03:13 most devs only test with omap4 Jul 19 07:05:28 aholler, maybe I should try with the official(?) linux-omap tree ? Jul 19 07:05:41 heya all -- so I've just gotten a beaglebone and I'm having trouble sshing to it. I've got it plugged into my comp (osx) via usb and have the config.txt open -- but under ifconfig I only see a lo adapter? Jul 19 07:05:51 I do have it plugged in to my network Jul 19 07:06:05 kroon: I don't know. I'm using the original 3.2.x Jul 19 07:06:17 aholler, ok Jul 19 07:06:17 any suggestions? Jul 19 07:06:41 kroon: but you might try 3.5-rc, i've support for edid there Jul 19 07:06:56 but ehci still doesn't work ;) Jul 19 07:07:04 +seen Jul 19 07:07:33 aholler, I'll try a few kernels and see what happens. I tried linus recent tree and kernel ooopsed during boto :-) Jul 19 07:08:03 look out for an option TFP410 where the generic panel option is found Jul 19 07:08:12 I must say it's a little disorienting with all these kernels Jul 19 07:08:38 it's for everyone Jul 19 07:08:53 aholler, yeah, I've read something about TFP410 when googling this problem.. Jul 19 07:57:54 has anybody succeeded installing 3g modem on beaglebone with ubuntu installed Jul 19 08:02:13 did you try? Jul 19 08:03:35 yes but no success :( Jul 19 08:03:45 we know of some persone trying to use a sierra modem and failing due to pure incompetence. Jul 19 08:03:53 it worked on my desktop ubuntu pc Jul 19 08:03:59 but not on beaglebone Jul 19 08:04:06 then comapre Jul 19 08:04:08 compare Jul 19 08:04:14 stop for step Jul 19 08:04:22 having it work on the desktop is a good 1st step Jul 19 08:05:03 yes Jul 19 08:05:21 I think problem is in option.ko file which is under usbserial folder Jul 19 08:05:48 it does not load? Jul 19 08:06:23 when I try to install option.ko, it warns me invalid module format Jul 19 08:06:57 and where does the module come from? Jul 19 08:09:29 it was there when I installed the ubuntu but Jul 19 08:09:49 in order to make it active you have to install in wiht command insmod Jul 19 08:13:21 i admit i doubt that ubuntu comes with fualty modules, chances are you picked the wrong /lib/modules tree. Jul 19 08:13:37 why not just "modprobe option"? Jul 19 08:17:07 FATAL: Error inserting option (/lib/modules/3.2.0-psp7/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/option.ko): Invalid module format Jul 19 08:17:41 it gives the same error :( isn't there any other alternative of installing 3g modem without using option.ko file Jul 19 08:17:50 mahmut: and what does your uname -a say? Jul 19 08:18:23 Linux omap 3.2.0-psp7 #1 Fri Apr 13 16:35:20 UTC 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux Jul 19 08:18:49 basically does not look too bad. hm. Jul 19 08:19:55 and "file /lib/modules/3.2.0-psp7/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/option.ko" ? Jul 19 08:20:31 ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped Jul 19 08:22:51 (sorry, no helpful idea ATM) Jul 19 08:24:11 mahmut: if you have a modem from option then I guess you need the option module Jul 19 08:24:46 hmm Jul 19 08:25:00 I think most of the 3g modems use option driver Jul 19 08:25:08 not only modems from Option Jul 19 08:28:55 this is which ubuntu? Jul 19 08:29:01 stock or rcnee? Jul 19 08:36:18 I never needed "the option" driver ;) Jul 19 09:06:11 guys i have installed oe, for crosscompiling projects to beagleboard. And i used to use it without error until some time ago... I think it began after i updated it. Now when i compile my project with "make all" it gives this error : ti/c6accel/ce/C6ACCEL.xdc", line 17: can't resolve name (ti.sdo.ce.universal.IUNIVERSAL Jul 19 09:18:18 prana hm try to build codec-enginge before Jul 19 09:18:38 unfornatly I think c6accel support for codec-engine was disabled Jul 19 09:18:46 so that might be the error Jul 19 09:18:51 or explain it Jul 19 09:31:26 woglinde: i will try Jul 19 09:34:31 or remove c6accell from the list of stuff to build Jul 19 09:35:06 hm we wants opencv Jul 19 09:35:09 *g* Jul 19 09:35:15 and found the old tutorial Jul 19 09:35:22 gm av500 Jul 19 09:46:15 everybody wants openCV Jul 19 09:46:25 we all want things we cannot have Jul 19 09:49:01 :) Jul 19 09:53:13 sure sure Jul 19 09:53:23 hm I should try something in opencv too again Jul 19 09:53:59 av500 what do you want what you can not have? Jul 19 09:54:29 * LetoThe2nd suggests "money for nothing, and chicks for free." Jul 19 09:54:30 I wont post that here :) Jul 19 09:54:55 hehe Jul 19 09:54:59 fair enough Jul 19 09:55:43 maybe an eagleboard ;) Jul 19 09:56:15 that I have Jul 19 09:56:29 I assumed it Jul 19 09:56:34 counts neither as money nor as chick. Jul 19 09:57:02 I just wanted to prove that ;) Jul 19 09:57:10 an eagleborad? Jul 19 09:57:22 aholler: tricky Jul 19 09:57:45 as trolls are Jul 19 10:00:12 aholler: A+ Jul 19 10:01:18 A+++ Jul 19 10:01:22 uhm Jul 19 10:01:26 AAAA+ it is Jul 19 10:01:33 but not greece Jul 19 12:20:37 zgt21093 Jul 19 12:30:04 any one have boot.scr for beaglebone.? Jul 19 12:30:11 o.O Jul 19 12:30:22 use your own env.txt Jul 19 12:31:16 huh..? Jul 19 12:33:01 actully i'm using beaglebone ( android ICS) building the boot image with procedure of TI wiki Jul 19 12:33:33 Beaglebone dont have NAND for booting we need to boot from SD card Jul 19 12:34:01 yes Jul 19 12:34:06 but i need NAND flash booting in my end device Jul 19 12:34:09 thats nothing new Jul 19 12:34:26 and where is the problem? Jul 19 12:34:28 but EVM bord support NAND Jul 19 12:34:34 and? Jul 19 12:34:43 beagle classic had nand too Jul 19 12:34:52 how to buiild NAND supported android boot imae Jul 19 12:34:56 * image Jul 19 12:34:58 had/have Jul 19 12:35:03 and a few early xm had nand... but that's a secret Jul 19 12:35:10 mru *g* Jul 19 12:35:18 I skipped that Jul 19 12:35:21 i don't get it, what do you want? a nand booting image for the bone which has no nand? Jul 19 12:35:41 maybe he isnt firm with nand partitions and kernel support for nand Jul 19 12:35:45 mru: mans' secret or victorias secret? Jul 19 12:35:53 boot.scr, Ubi.img, and mkmmc-android-ubifs.sh only new in EVM bord compare than Beaglebone Jul 19 12:36:07 LetoThe2nd: I don't know any victoria Jul 19 12:36:17 and even if I did, she probably wouldn't tell me any secrets Jul 19 12:36:18 mru: too bad :P Jul 19 12:36:20 mru no bar maid? Jul 19 12:36:33 woglinde: none of them go by that name afaik Jul 19 12:37:12 hm Jul 19 12:37:13 hey i'm making my own device with reference of beaglebone Jul 19 12:37:23 why the hell cairo freaks out Jul 19 12:37:28 chainz and? Jul 19 12:37:45 look at ubi/nand support for beagle classic Jul 19 12:37:47 and adapt it Jul 19 12:37:53 otherwise pay someone Jul 19 12:37:57 doing it for you Jul 19 12:38:06 i had removed SD card and i want to add NAND flash in my device Jul 19 12:38:26 sd card + epoxy Jul 19 12:38:47 hey i have created ubi.img Jul 19 12:38:59 hm ciaro thinks uclibc has no mutex support Jul 19 12:39:43 i hope mkmmc-android-ubifs.sh will work in beaglebone Jul 19 12:40:02 finally boot.scr only missing to boot my device Jul 19 12:40:12 @woglinde got it.? Jul 19 12:40:51 chainz I told you now twice the time what to do Jul 19 12:40:52 we can copy boot.scr from evm prebuild image..? Jul 19 12:41:38 sorry i didnt noticed Jul 19 12:41:43 let me check Jul 19 12:42:05 I will write again Jul 19 12:42:24 look at ubifs/nand stuff for beagle classic and adapt it for you needs Jul 19 12:42:33 gm ka6sox Jul 19 12:42:44 that was a short night Jul 19 12:42:58 k k thanks Jul 19 12:43:42 and you dont need boot.scr with a recent u-boot you can use uEnv.txt Jul 19 12:48:17 oh fine Jul 19 12:48:30 i'm using REV A5 beaglebone Jul 19 12:59:41 btw. boot.scr is the same as uEnv.txt only that is converted to some binary format Jul 19 13:02:54 oh fine. so ican boot my device without boot.scr Jul 19 13:03:04 with help of uEnv.txt Jul 19 13:03:11 am i right.? Jul 19 13:03:37 is any possible to install the android boot image in NAND over Jul 19 13:03:41 USB.? Jul 19 13:07:03 the beaglebone doesn't have nand Jul 19 13:07:23 ahollr on his evm Jul 19 13:08:08 chainz hm I dont know offhand if u-boot has dfu support now Jul 19 13:08:18 btu dfu would the easiest Jul 19 13:08:51 chainz: just type help in u-boot and read the docs Jul 19 13:09:16 @aholler i'll Jul 19 13:09:46 ubi usually has support for nand and sometimes support for ubi is compiled in too Jul 19 13:09:51 hm Jul 19 13:09:52 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/beagleboard/2DflLimlg9Q Jul 19 13:10:35 aholler you know what dfu is? Jul 19 13:13:38 i know that musb is broken Jul 19 13:14:20 not sure if that ever worked in u-boot at all Jul 19 13:18:10 hm hm yes musb again Jul 19 13:22:10 @woglinde & aholler i've another prob.. can you help me..? Jul 19 13:23:40 chainz my crystball says no Jul 19 13:23:47 crytal Jul 19 13:23:49 args Jul 19 13:24:30 huh..? Jul 19 13:27:25 crystallball Jul 19 13:27:45 rite now im in following state. my device have NAND flash (empty) but dont have SD card. and i've android boot image in my host pc . my boot image have u-boot.img, ubi.img, uEnv.txt and other android booting image. now the problem is how can i install the booting images into NAND flash over USB..? Jul 19 13:28:46 hahah crystallball...?..!! :) Jul 19 13:30:04 chainz your board has an older u-boot right? Jul 19 13:30:20 so read the u.boot docu for flashing nand Jul 19 13:30:46 if you flash u-boot you should flash the right MLO too Jul 19 13:30:57 otherwise you might expect problems Jul 19 13:31:03 and get a bricked device Jul 19 13:32:14 hey my bord dont have any file i mean uboot. bcuz its dont have any storage hardware! Jul 19 13:32:41 i have to load uboot in SD card and have to boot board Jul 19 13:32:54 if it has now u-boot how can you boot it? Jul 19 13:32:54 Thats the main problem Jul 19 13:32:59 ups s/now/no Jul 19 13:33:30 if it has no storage where do you want to flash? Jul 19 13:33:34 fix storage first Jul 19 13:34:08 hey rite now i have nand but its empty. the problem is how can i load uboot in nand..? Jul 19 13:34:58 i want to install android image into NAND from my UBUNTU pc over USB Jul 19 13:35:09 read the u-boot documentation Jul 19 13:35:15 you can flash from linux too. so just boot some linux Jul 19 13:35:15 and pry that musb is not broken Jul 19 13:35:19 how can i do that..? any tool is available Jul 19 13:35:19 ups pray Jul 19 13:36:09 ubi has good docs online too Jul 19 13:37:54 chainz: boot u-boot from the sd-card, p[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[Cress the any-key, type help, read the u-boot documentation Jul 19 13:39:02 playing with nand is not done by a one-click, at least not if not someone has build such a one-click for you ;) Jul 19 13:40:04 heh Jul 19 13:40:16 aholler he has no sdcard in his target board Jul 19 13:40:27 and if you want to design your own board, you will need to know how to handle nand. so reading the docs isn't wrong Jul 19 13:40:48 something must be there to start u-boot Jul 19 13:41:05 maybe read the doc for the board ;) Jul 19 13:44:56 I would use jtag as I don't like usb Jul 19 13:48:21 mdp hm right Jul 19 13:48:35 and you could boot via serial console tool Jul 19 13:49:16 if that s an evm-board, there must be some documentation Jul 19 13:50:04 spl serial support (if supported on his version of u-boot) would allow him to put whatever he wants in...within the limits of what can be fit image-wise into ram Jul 19 13:50:43 but again, that assumes you have a modern u-boot with spl/serial, nand working for your board, etc. Jul 19 13:51:01 maybe musb in u-boot works too. I don't know. ;) Jul 19 13:51:02 aholler, you would think...it's fun to speculate and hand wave here with no information though Jul 19 13:51:34 aholler, indeed..I tend to have higher confidence in uart stuffs for some reason Jul 19 13:52:06 yes, sepculating is boring. As said, that board must have some docs. Jul 19 13:57:59 maybe...there's a lot of low-cost boards being dumped on the market with little docs Jul 19 14:18:32 if the board has no docs, the trm describes what the chip can use to boot. ;) Jul 19 14:21:48 does u-boot.spl support loading u-boot by serial? Jul 19 14:22:00 if you add the code, yes Jul 19 14:22:33 aholler, that sounds like work Jul 19 14:22:39 so the stock one doesn't ;) Jul 19 14:22:55 aholler, yes, stock u-boot supports that Jul 19 14:25:10 u-boot yes, but u-boot.spl? I never played with loading something by serial. I've used jtag such barebone boards. ;) Jul 19 14:25:21 spl is uboot Jul 19 14:25:25 CONFIG_SPL_YMODEM_SUPPORT Jul 19 14:25:25 just a subset Jul 19 14:25:33 but it has to fit in sram Jul 19 14:25:33 what mdp said Jul 19 14:27:09 on "omap", depending on rom version you either use the old serial squirter tools...or you use xmodem to get spl in...then spl loads u-boot with ymodem..and u-boot can load anything in with ymodem Jul 19 14:27:39 its ymodem all the way down Jul 19 14:27:50 except for the romcode, as I say Jul 19 14:28:22 I chose ymodem for spl since we already had the ymodem support in full u-boot. Jul 19 14:28:51 still the problem to write the nand from usb or serial directly Jul 19 14:29:08 or ymodem supports that Jul 19 14:29:08 you load u-boot with nand support Jul 19 14:29:16 yes Jul 19 14:29:17 and suck in your image via uart Jul 19 14:29:21 if ymodem is usable without an u-boot-console. I can't remember what fits in u-boot.spl. I just remember that sram is too small ;) Jul 19 14:29:21 write Jul 19 14:29:45 mdp if you have 512 mb ram how do you flash a 1024 mb imageß Jul 19 14:30:01 I already mentioned that way above Jul 19 14:30:17 besides loading 1024 mb via serial suckz Jul 19 14:30:22 a smart design allows for things being segmented Jul 19 14:30:26 I didn't say it was ideal Jul 19 14:30:34 for your bloated android desktop stuffs Jul 19 14:30:43 nah its not mine Jul 19 14:30:51 s/your/the/ Jul 19 14:31:06 woglinde: you use UBS these days Jul 19 14:31:08 woglinde: nand uses blocks, no need to flash everything in one step Jul 19 14:31:09 it does "work" though ;) Jul 19 14:31:14 for factory provisioning Jul 19 14:31:17 av500 yes and you have musb Jul 19 14:31:21 yes Jul 19 14:31:23 we do that Jul 19 14:31:24 it works Jul 19 14:31:31 *g* Jul 19 14:31:41 av500 dfu support? Jul 19 14:31:50 there's a bunch of work happening around this same chain with dfu in mainline u-boot Jul 19 14:31:55 mdp yes Jul 19 14:31:59 googled it Jul 19 14:32:04 woglinde: not dfu Jul 19 14:32:07 boot from usb Jul 19 14:32:14 the flash nand or eemc via usb Jul 19 14:32:18 *cough* Tartarus is involved somewhat *cough* Jul 19 14:32:18 at 1st boot Jul 19 14:32:36 woglinde, google? wow Jul 19 14:32:43 I wouldn't have thought of that Jul 19 14:32:50 good tip Jul 19 14:32:50 atmel-chips have dfu in rom ;) Jul 19 14:32:56 sure dfu was my first idea too Jul 19 14:33:05 soon chips will have fastboot in rom :) Jul 19 14:33:05 so I googeld for u-boot dfu support Jul 19 14:33:13 thansk to android :) Jul 19 14:33:38 aholler, without saying to much...I can tell you that some people "in charge" at some companies haven't heard of DFU Jul 19 14:33:47 that might help explain why others don't do that in ROM Jul 19 14:34:06 sure. you need some sw in the rom. Jul 19 14:34:27 yes was very nice from harald to do it for the openmoko devices Jul 19 14:34:31 on a related note, we obviously have usb support in TI roms... Jul 19 14:35:04 hm do I now fix all tab vs spaces recipes in bloody edge master Jul 19 14:35:29 woglinde: the useful thing is when it became standardized..much easier to convince people to use it in the future Jul 19 14:36:08 mdp: but DFU only helps you tp upload a blob? Jul 19 14:36:20 yes, I'm not sure who has invented dfu. but the atmel has it very long Jul 19 14:36:21 or does it support stuff like creating partitions etc? Jul 19 14:36:28 correct..it's a way to leverage standardized tooling Jul 19 14:37:47 so how much use is DFU in factory flashing? Jul 19 14:37:58 av500, http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/usbdfu10.pdf Jul 19 14:38:43 what, I am supposed to read that? Jul 19 14:38:49 with dfu you can flash the nand as with an any jtag. you usually uplaod a small stub which then receives blocks and flashes them into nand Jul 19 14:38:57 the idea is you drop the blob in...it can then init ram, relocate and you can suck in multiple images in your system specific method Jul 19 14:39:30 all it is a standard usb device class for moving the blob(s) Jul 19 14:39:42 right Jul 19 14:39:43 av500, I will PM you a summary Jul 19 14:39:48 you need a protocol on top of it Jul 19 14:39:53 yep Jul 19 14:41:11 that part is typically system specific...obviously one can have example scripts around u-boot doing this Jul 19 14:41:19 there is some ugly java-sw around which does that ;) Jul 19 14:41:31 dfu spl...dfu u-boot...dfu in N blobs which u-boot nand writes Jul 19 14:41:47 rinse repeat for your world Jul 19 14:42:03 at the end of the day, it's the same crap we do everywhere Jul 19 14:42:17 but for linux there are some commandline tools too Jul 19 14:42:33 well, that is the point of using a standard device class Jul 19 14:42:37 dfu fastboot and go from there :) Jul 19 14:42:44 boo Jul 19 14:42:52 sure, boo Jul 19 14:42:57 you need to unlock first Jul 19 14:43:18 * mdp heads to xda-developers quick! Jul 19 14:43:28 nothing to unlock :) Jul 19 14:43:43 then binpatch it anyway Jul 19 14:43:48 yes Jul 19 14:44:12 the hunt for the kernel-bug to get root ;) Jul 19 14:44:36 and then the hunt to get kexec working ;) Jul 19 14:44:54 btw. kexec doesn't work on my beagleboard ;) Jul 19 14:45:00 you guys are too l33t Jul 19 14:45:46 he, we are getting offtopic Jul 19 14:46:28 blech..and I'm running into meeting time. :( Jul 19 14:46:40 reading xda-ph0rums is damaging. Jul 19 14:47:14 poor people who have to do that for their job Jul 19 14:47:53 and poor users. Jul 19 14:50:23 I've heard there's people that have to read the e2e ph0rums for their job too! Jul 19 14:51:53 aholler: kexec has been fixed long ago for Beagleboard. The hype today are the 'hardboot' patches fo kexec'ing Samsung devices Jul 19 14:51:54 I think the level in e2e is still much much higher than in xda. at least most people claim they are devs ;) Jul 19 14:53:20 hi ant Jul 19 14:53:59 aholler, I think it's clear that fewer e2e devs live in their parents' basement Jul 19 14:54:00 woglinde: can you look at the tabs/spaces problems in meta-java? Jul 19 14:54:11 woglinde: I removed it from bblayers.conf to get things to parse again Jul 19 14:54:25 mdp: they live in their boss' cubicle Jul 19 14:54:45 koen: +1 Jul 19 14:55:02 s/cubicle/bunker/ Jul 19 14:55:04 ;) Jul 19 14:55:12 koen, that's likely for me when I visit the mothership...no room there. ;) Jul 19 14:55:28 not even a room with cleaning suplies? Jul 19 14:55:52 mdp: enough places in TI dallas to hide and hack Jul 19 14:56:22 koen, I usually end up in mr. speak and spell's uber-lair Jul 19 14:56:44 use the garden and meet as usual (by network) ;) Jul 19 14:56:44 gene's office? Jul 19 14:56:47 yeah Jul 19 14:57:00 in any case, there's generally no real work done Jul 19 14:57:17 the conference rooms along the spine are nice Jul 19 14:57:23 "hiding in plain sight" Jul 19 14:57:30 there's a team room I've used too Jul 19 14:58:25 at least ti is seems to be a company where you can work remote Jul 19 14:58:48 thats still a problem for many other big players Jul 19 14:59:39 e.g. for google, just to name one Jul 19 14:59:40 aholler, it's not easy Jul 19 15:04:22 yes, most managers are don't know about possibilities of irc, xmpp or similiar and need real meetings Jul 19 15:04:53 where usually no usbale output comes from Jul 19 15:06:03 woglinde, the ZNC server I was on..had a "Whoopsie" Jul 19 15:06:31 there are meeters and thinkers ;) Jul 19 15:07:45 aholler, at least for the team I'm on, we have one traditional heavyweight weekly meeting..and everything else is shared real-time on our irc channel Jul 19 15:11:15 I mistrust such meetings because often the wrong people are speaking. Many good devs aren't good meeting speakers. Jul 19 15:13:59 or they just prefer to be silent. Jul 19 15:15:22 but that depends a lot on the team too. Jul 19 15:17:02 comm is highly team dependent Jul 19 15:17:34 in a past life, was on a team that did "by the book" scrum where all the meeting were done on irc Jul 19 15:17:57 but everybody on the team was used to comm that way Jul 19 15:18:35 helped with harder to understand people and TZ issues too Jul 19 15:19:26 and with harder to understand subjects too Jul 19 15:20:28 I work with some people now that find it necessary to fallback to a phone call to discuss complication issues...I find that difficult to do Jul 19 15:20:36 s/complication/complicated/ Jul 19 15:21:28 I often find it very hard to explain something understandable in realtime and prefer to have my minutes to think about what I write Jul 19 15:22:00 yep Jul 19 15:29:19 koen sure I have done that Jul 19 15:29:26 atleast for openjdk-7 Jul 19 15:29:29 need to push it Jul 19 16:07:19 koen did you check your tabs/spaces changes Jul 19 16:07:28 I still get intentaion errors Jul 19 16:29:50 woglinde: python? Jul 19 16:31:27 must be Jul 19 16:31:43 mranostay yes Jul 19 16:32:07 we have now strict policy in oe to enforce spaces in the pythonfunctions Jul 19 16:33:06 autocmd FileType python set ts=4 sw=4 expandtab Jul 19 16:35:57 mranostay hehe vim dont get .bb files as python files Jul 19 16:36:37 you can change that as well Jul 19 16:37:20 woglinde: wait you are converting all .bb files to python tabstops and spaces? Jul 19 16:46:55 no Jul 19 16:47:06 most of them are already converted Jul 19 16:47:24 but koen missed some stuff Jul 19 16:47:32 bad koen bad Jul 19 17:17:13 woglinde: meta-oe and meta-angstrom are tab-safe now Jul 19 17:17:21 woglinde: oe-core, meta-opie, and meta-java aren't Jul 19 17:25:56 make python tab save, it's better to spend the time for that ;) Jul 19 17:55:25 sqlite is a way better choice for data storage on the bone. Jul 19 18:13:55 re Jul 19 18:14:08 koen meta-java is now tabsafe Jul 19 18:21:03 woglinde: thanks! Jul 19 19:21:52 Erm... WUT? So, I'm trying to do something on my BeagleBone using OpenOCD. I issue a "reset halt" command... and, although it takes a few seconds longer than a normal "reset run"... U-Boot is starting anyhow Jul 19 19:54:06 Hi, Im reading in various post out there that the Bone AM335x doesnt support trust zone (its disabled). I have a system based on the Bone that I need to deliver to a potential customer and I would like to protect the code as much as possible...any advices? Jul 19 19:56:06 yoyo: Trust zone isn't about code protection anyhow... Jul 19 19:56:33 Xgf: ok, that is good to know :) Jul 19 19:58:33 ok, what options to I then have? Jul 19 19:59:04 protect from what? Jul 19 19:59:44 from someone stealing my code while I have it placed in other peoples hands Jul 19 19:59:54 then don't give it to them Jul 19 20:13:35 Can anyone in here help me test https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flash-kernel/+bug/1023952 Jul 19 20:13:47 I need coverage on an OMAP3 platform Jul 19 20:16:17 lol Jul 19 20:16:23 about stealing the code Jul 19 20:20:18 woglinde: we could have sent him to a code obfuscation contest... Jul 19 20:20:50 and I wonder what his code is so special about Jul 19 20:20:57 to lock it Jul 19 20:22:49 it's his preciousssssss Jul 19 20:22:59 woglinde: maybe he doesn't want it ending up on thedailywtf Jul 19 20:23:39 too many wtf/loc Jul 19 20:30:14 for some reason my opkg is just saying unknown package "sudo" when logged in as root, I have the latest angstrom image just installed, net connectivity.. just ran all opkg upgrades and now "opkg install sudo" returns "unknown package sudo" Jul 19 20:30:45 opkg update Jul 19 20:31:40 just did the update Jul 19 20:31:42 and this is output Jul 19 20:31:43 root@beaglebone:~# opkg install sudo Unknown package 'sudo'. Jul 19 20:32:18 opkg list | grep sudo Jul 19 20:32:39 no output Jul 19 20:33:23 if i put in opkg install g++ it reconises that g++ on root is up to date.. it doesnt say unknown package g++ Jul 19 20:33:35 so no sudo for you. Jul 19 20:34:22 no sandwich for you Jul 19 20:34:55 well that sucks.. but it is in the package browser and its not some obscure package.. how do I go about getting it on then? Jul 19 20:35:39 sudo opkg install... oh, right :) Jul 19 20:36:02 well aren't you guys helpful Jul 19 20:37:07 is anyone using angstrom btw? on my rpi I am using debian and I have to say things just seem to work much better than on this beaglebone.. I am tryna get both up and running... but I mean how can sudo not be in the packages? Jul 19 20:38:44 the default user on angstroem is root Jul 19 20:39:19 opkg update Jul 19 20:39:25 opkg list | grep sudo Jul 19 20:39:34 i did that and nothing happened Jul 19 20:40:41 so there is no sudo package in the repos Jul 19 20:40:49 ask koen why he didnt compile it Jul 19 20:41:42 so none of you are using sudo? I get that the default user is root but I much prefer using sudo as a normal user Jul 19 20:42:14 there is su too Jul 19 20:43:07 maybe I am just so used to it with debian and ubuntu machines.. Jul 19 20:43:12 dont know what you are using your beagle for Jul 19 20:44:03 I am trying to set up a webserver with 2 way uart.. btw when I am going to install a package which version is the beaglebone.. arm6 arm7 ...etc Jul 19 20:45:46 so why do you need any normal users? Jul 19 20:46:00 sudo should be available, it's good for many things Jul 19 20:46:19 I know its lame but I just like customizing my computer changing host and users and such to be more personal than "root@beaglebone" Jul 19 20:46:27 sudo is listed on the angstrom repo Jul 19 20:46:54 I know.. I have also installed it on a beaglebone in the past but I have been using a raspberry pi for past month and came back and sudo is gone for me Jul 19 20:47:15 so your r-pi has eaten sudo, makes sense Jul 19 20:47:21 interesting Jul 19 20:47:23 lol Jul 19 20:48:46 thats what happens if you are unfaithful Jul 19 20:49:16 the beagle knowsss Jul 19 20:49:34 it's the sudo-eating virus spread by r-pi ;) Jul 19 20:49:58 r-pi thought it was organic Jul 19 20:49:59 they are both good but coming from a newb point of view, the out of the box experience is much better on the pi.. I know they both can do the same thing in the end with knowhow though Jul 19 20:51:27 ubuntu on the r-pi is much different than on the beagle? Jul 19 20:52:08 I heard uuntu for the r-pi doesn't exist Jul 19 20:53:04 no I am running raspbian on the pi.. so ubuntu runs fine on the beagelbone? I have only ever used angstrom Jul 19 20:53:24 if so why don't they go with ubuntu as default?! Jul 19 20:53:45 so you compared oranges with apples? Jul 19 20:54:30 little bit.. I basically don't know what I am talking about, I just know things seem to work better for me on the pi up to now.. but I prefer all the gpio on the bone Jul 19 20:56:17 raspian? is there also an raspdroid? Jul 19 20:57:31 its a raspberry pi debian image.. god knows about raspdroid Jul 19 20:57:32 * djlewis had some good homemade sb-pi (strawberryberry pie) today :) Jul 19 20:59:20 try raspora, rasptoo, raspch or raspue ;) Jul 19 20:59:47 s/raspue/raspse/ Jul 19 21:00:26 so can anyone tell me which sudo I am gonna need to download.. theres many different arm numbers on the package browser.. Jul 19 21:00:40 rasputin Jul 19 21:00:49 sudo 1.8.3-r1 for armv7a .....sound good? Jul 19 21:17:11 First rule of #beagle is we don't talk about the r-pi here :) Jul 19 21:18:32 <_av500_> sure we do Jul 19 21:21:46 beside make fun of it? :) Jul 19 21:22:08 why no beagleboard XM for 20 weeks? Jul 19 21:22:21 or is this another case of "just order it and wait" Jul 19 21:22:24 er who did you order it from? Jul 19 21:23:56 haven't ordered it yet Jul 19 21:24:23 supply was bought by apple, tehy need it for the next ibone Jul 19 21:24:44 lol Jul 19 21:41:12 aholler: :) Jul 19 21:47:05 =:)] Jul 19 22:27:32 <_av500_> bmercer: order and wait Jul 19 22:27:36 <_av500_> there is never stock Jul 19 22:27:45 <_av500_> since every board is sold Jul 19 22:28:41 ok, hopefully it won't take 19 weeks ;( Jul 19 22:29:44 one thing is certain, delaying the order will not get you a board sooner Jul 19 22:42:54 mru: you could get two r-pi's in that time :P Jul 19 22:44:04 I bet the xm is more than twice as fast Jul 19 22:44:14 I pick the workload... Jul 19 22:44:53 mru: no more tools of death on your G+ Jul 19 22:45:45 most of those were at my mom's place Jul 19 22:45:51 I'm home now Jul 19 22:46:01 and I live in the city, not much need for a chainsaw here Jul 19 22:46:21 says you Jul 19 22:46:36 oh, just ordered 2 not on backorder Jul 19 22:49:24 free power saws and body parts in the Detroit river Jul 19 22:50:58 any livers? Jul 19 22:56:53 ? Jul 20 00:30:48 prpplague, I think I have a bum ARM20TI14 Jul 20 00:31:07 oh, wait, its just not depaneled Jul 20 00:33:31 Russ: yea we have gotten a few that didn't get the panel piece removed Jul 20 00:58:44 whats the best method to control gpio pin from the userspace? mmap? Jul 20 00:59:48 heh Jul 20 01:00:06 that is that the worst and insane way Jul 20 01:06:56 mranostay: so whats the best way? Jul 20 01:09:04 gpio sysfs Jul 20 01:17:24 thanks Jul 20 01:17:28 if that's not good enough, you should write a proper driver for your device Jul 20 01:18:24 mru: well yeah that too :) Jul 20 01:18:53 if you don't know how, pay someone who does Jul 20 01:19:04 * mru rubs hands Jul 20 01:19:45 * mranostay underbids mru Jul 20 01:26:29 mru: looks like i'm gonna have to fly into manchester instead of heathrow Jul 20 01:26:42 mru: a lot cheaper Jul 20 01:27:30 prpplague: visiting ARM? Jul 20 01:27:48 prpplague: but london is more fun Jul 20 01:28:00 mranostay: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/automotive-linux-summit Jul 20 01:28:17 mru: bad idea to go through manchester? Jul 20 01:28:52 depends on where you're going I guess Jul 20 01:29:49 mru: Coventry is the final destination Jul 20 01:31:10 birmingham should be closer if you can find a flight there Jul 20 01:31:27 but there should be direct trains from manchester too iirc Jul 20 01:31:42 or would you be driving? Jul 20 01:31:47 given the theme and all... Jul 20 01:33:19 prpplague: giving a talk? Jul 20 01:33:45 mru: hehe yea i couldn't get any good flights to birmingham Jul 20 01:33:54 mru: planning to take the train Jul 20 01:34:08 mranostay: submitted one, we'll see if it is accepted Jul 20 01:36:14 test Jul 20 01:36:21 fail Jul 20 01:36:44 1,2 ... heheh ehheh 3? Jul 20 01:36:47 any body there? Jul 20 01:36:53 prpplague: something about hooking up a JTAG debugger to your car? :) Jul 20 01:37:08 mranostay: lcd display interfaces for cars Jul 20 01:37:45 * prpplague looks for a hotel in manchester Jul 20 01:39:49 ho ho hum Jul 20 01:40:39 * mranostay takes prpplague rum away from him Jul 20 01:42:15 hehe Jul 20 02:33:25 * mranostay steal a beer from mru Jul 20 02:36:12 I got an image from narcissus got the SD card and everything set up. but I get this error when trying to boot from SD ERROR: can't get kernel image! Jul 20 02:37:03 pastebin a boot log Jul 20 02:38:39 http://pastebin.com/2jMWPFQX Jul 20 02:41:53 and printenv http://pastebin.com/qqpAKGYt Jul 20 02:46:39 google isn't really helping either Jul 20 02:47:35 what's in your uEnv.txt? Jul 20 02:47:58 where do I get that? Jul 20 02:48:15 sorry kinda new to all this Jul 20 02:48:27 should be in your boot partition, if you have one Jul 20 02:49:17 hold on Jul 20 02:50:23 I followed this tutorial and it didn;t say anything about uEnv.txt to go into the boot partition Jul 20 02:50:24 http://treyweaver.blogspot.com/2010/10/installing-angstrom-on-beagleboard-xm.html Jul 20 02:52:04 ah, those instructions are probably a bit dated Jul 20 02:52:38 can you give me a better tutorial? That is more up to date for revC Jul 20 02:55:01 which MLO and u-boot did you use? Jul 20 02:55:47 the ones that came with the image I got from narissus Jul 20 02:57:37 and you have a C5, rather than an xM? Jul 20 02:57:47 yes Jul 20 02:58:00 i don't have xM Jul 20 02:58:01 try holding down the user button when booting Jul 20 02:58:13 it's currently booting from nand Jul 20 02:58:15 I did, and that's where the error came from Jul 20 02:59:29 how long did you hold the user button after pressing the reset button? Jul 20 02:59:42 the entire time **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 20 02:59:59 2012