**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 31 02:59:59 2012 Jul 31 06:28:45 * mranostay pokes _av500_ Jul 31 07:07:19 how to get the active framebuffer resolution? Jul 31 07:10:29 LetoThe2nd: fbset Jul 31 07:14:40 <_av500_> mranostay: wazzup? Jul 31 07:15:02 <_av500_> LetoThe2nd: cat /sys/something :) Jul 31 07:28:09 Guest26051: ah yes. Jul 31 07:30:16 <_av500_> mranostay: I'll sell you mine for $49 :) Jul 31 07:30:35 <_av500_> so, go forth and solder Jul 31 07:33:08 _av500_: damn you being in all the same rooms as me :) Jul 31 07:34:49 <_av500_> only by accident Jul 31 07:35:08 <_av500_> but you whined about it here as well Jul 31 07:35:43 did i? Jul 31 07:35:49 on G+ i did Jul 31 07:35:54 <_av500_> ah maybe Jul 31 07:36:09 <_av500_> get all the online stuff pretty mixed up, is this myspace? Jul 31 07:36:33 no annoying music in the background so no Jul 31 07:36:55 sleepy time Jul 31 07:37:03 <_av500_> good night Jul 31 09:21:16 anyone got a compiled uImage with USART2 enabled for C4? Jul 31 09:22:14 trying to make it myself, only getting errors Jul 31 09:31:39 nvm, it is enabled by default Jul 31 12:27:36 i get ERROR: no recipes avaiable for meta-ti/recipes-core/netbase/netbase_5.0.bbappend... any way to solve? Jul 31 12:30:20 Well, based on a quick Google search for that error, a user here (riskable) had similar issues in this channel on 2012-05-25. http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2012-05-25 Jul 31 12:30:48 Looks like a solution was found eventually, involving adding a different repo and mergeing the OE source. Jul 31 12:32:30 Er, reading further that did not work. Might be that there are missing files? Jul 31 12:32:51 agmlego: but that error is about download file Jul 31 12:33:05 agmlego: here i get only that message Jul 31 12:34:08 Guest26051: Talk with riskable and cbrake here in-channel, looks like those were the two puzzling this out a few months ago. Jul 31 12:35:25 riskable: cbrake: ok i'm waiting when they are online Jul 31 12:36:25 Guest26051: You might want to change your nick to something a little more meaningful than Guest26051. Jul 31 12:36:35 Makes it easier for folk to talk with you. Jul 31 12:36:42 ... Jul 31 12:36:56 sorry but quassel sometimes break the nick Jul 31 12:37:25 Heh. Jul 31 12:37:32 tadah Jul 31 13:08:42 Guest26051 aka stuk_gen... Perhaps I can be of assistance with your netbase problem? Jul 31 13:09:02 riskable: maybe Jul 31 13:09:14 I hate to say this but... I forget how I fixed it, hah! Jul 31 13:09:24 riskable: cool! Jul 31 13:09:27 Let me poke around and see if I can figure out what I did... Jul 31 13:09:42 riskable: ok Jul 31 13:10:51 stuk_gen: Ahh, I think I remember now: I just made myself a netbase_5.0.bbappend file Jul 31 13:10:54 hi .... someone has worked with QT?? Jul 31 13:11:03 veneco: yes Jul 31 13:11:07 veneco: no Jul 31 13:11:11 veneco: QT or Qt? Jul 31 13:11:14 veneco: I've worked with Qt Jul 31 13:11:25 PyQT4, specifically Jul 31 13:11:28 Been ages though Jul 31 13:11:59 riskable: but i've just a netbase_5.0.bbappend file Jul 31 13:12:09 stuk_gen: I think I posted a whole new netbase to the OE mailing list Jul 31 13:12:12 riskable: I compiled 4.6.3 library QT form embedded linux... but, the demos isn't working..... Jul 31 13:12:58 Into my beaglebone I have ubuntu 12.04 armhf with xlde Jul 31 13:13:19 riskable: i think the problem is i haven't a recipes...do you have that? Jul 31 13:13:31 stuk_gen: Yes, that's what I'm getting for you now Jul 31 13:14:17 Aha, found it: http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/28837/ Jul 31 13:14:51 That patch seems to work OK but I ended up going back to netbase_4.7 Jul 31 13:16:03 stuk_gen: I ended up using a different build environment than what is described on the Beagleboard/Angstrom sites Jul 31 13:16:10 Worked MUCH better Jul 31 13:16:15 Koen's instructions just didn't work for me Jul 31 13:16:47 ...and here's what you need: http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/28837/ Jul 31 13:16:54 Oops, wrong clipboard entry :) Jul 31 13:17:12 stuk_gen: Here, build your Angstrom from this: git clone git://git.bec-systems.com/oe-build-core Jul 31 13:17:23 Worked the first time for me Jul 31 13:18:51 So clone that repo and run ". envupdate.sh" then "oe_update_all" in the oe-build-core subdirectory Jul 31 13:18:53 venco: got a beaglebone running angstom & dvi cape, qt works fine Jul 31 13:19:10 angstrom Jul 31 13:19:34 veneco: I don't have any experience running Ubuntu on my Beaglebone, sorry. Also, I don't have experience using a GUI on my beaglebone either :( Jul 31 13:20:10 My Beaglebone is strictly for making sure that Gate One works great on it Jul 31 13:20:23 riskable: just follow the instructions on http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom :) Jul 31 13:20:25 (and occasionally screwing around with electronics--like playing with an LED matrix :) Jul 31 13:20:27 those work Jul 31 13:20:37 koen: Sorry but I've had little success with those instructions Jul 31 13:21:10 Hitsch: what library's version? Jul 31 13:21:11 I got the netbase errors and even after I added a .bb for an updated netbase I still got errors. Most of it had to do with failed downloads--essentially, there's lots of packages missing from the configured FTP servers Jul 31 13:21:53 koen: I have "fix all that stuff" in my TODO list but Gate One 1.1 is a priority for me right now. Jul 31 13:22:21 If I can make Gate One/Liftoff Software my full-time job I'll have a lot more time to do stuff like that Jul 31 13:23:01 I especially want to make some really great software for the Beaglebone/OE that would turn the device into something useful for *anyone* to have attached to their network Jul 31 13:23:10 the netbase things and other stuff were fixed a while ago Jul 31 13:23:23 so, follow http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Jul 31 13:23:27 koen: Yeah, that may be just that I haven't played around with it in about 1.5 months Jul 31 13:23:39 That's open source for you: Always improving! Jul 31 13:23:42 koen: do you want a log? Jul 31 13:24:03 koen: i use everytimes that instruction and i have the error about netbase Jul 31 13:24:23 koen: I'll see if I can kick off a fresh build using those instructions while I'm working today Jul 31 13:24:35 stuk_gen: try it again from scratch Jul 31 13:24:38 koen: I'll report back if I encounter any errors (netbase in particular) Jul 31 13:24:44 stuk_gen: and *really* follow them Jul 31 13:25:11 stuk_gen: I agree with koen... Sometimes you just gotta start from scratch with embedded build environments (not a problem limited to OE--I have the same problem building Android stuff) Jul 31 13:25:28 Hitsch: for install the qt library, just copy "lib"and "bin" folders into my beaglebone uSD?? Jul 31 13:26:08 riskable: ok...but i have personal recipes i have to copy paste from the scrath Jul 31 13:26:15 It's because there's so much development/innovation going on at once in different corners of every distribution/environment. You're bound to run into situations where some update breaks something... Or a situation where a developer pushes code that relies on things they downloaded a while ago and still have in their cache =) Jul 31 13:26:24 stuk_gen: Yep, I have a system for that Jul 31 13:26:34 stuk_gen: Make your own overlay Jul 31 13:26:40 Let me give you instructions... Jul 31 13:26:53 riskable: interesting...i listen Jul 31 13:27:10 In my 'sources' directory I have my own local repo: meta-riskable Jul 31 13:27:36 If I want to make a modification to something (or just test modifying something) I copy it into that directory making sure that the directory structure is identical Jul 31 13:27:53 veneco: Qt 4.6.2, qt4-embedded on the target Jul 31 13:28:14 Once I've got the meta-riskable directory setup the way I want I add 'meta-riskable' to the bblayers.conf Jul 31 13:28:46 That way I can blow away all the other meta- directories whenever I want and it won't mess up my changes Jul 31 13:29:18 riskable: but when you build oe don't tell you that there are 2 recipes with the same name? Jul 31 13:29:19 Now I know git has a zillion options for having local branches and resolving conflicts and whatnot but I find it is MUCH more straightforward to just keep my modifications in a separate place Jul 31 13:29:24 Hitsch: sorry for this question... but, I don't need a X window system, right? Jul 31 13:29:50 stuk_gen: No, the last repo in bblayers.conf will take precedence. At least that's been my experience Jul 31 13:30:02 Maybe it is because the version numbering is higher though Jul 31 13:30:26 veneco: what distro are you using? Jul 31 13:30:28 So far all my custom .bb files have been either entirely new or updates of existing .bb files/patches Jul 31 13:30:33 riskable: ok... now i tring with a restart from scrach Jul 31 13:30:36 riskable: thanks Jul 31 13:30:37 Hitsch: I have 3 differents kernels: Ubuntu 12.04, Ubuntu 12.04 with LXDE, Angstrom Jul 31 13:31:00 lxde is a kernel nowadays? Jul 31 13:31:13 Also remember that you can save your changes to a repo by making a patch file from git. It is easy enough to re-apply such patches after you've blown away the repository. Just make sure you save the patches OUTSIDE of the repo hehe Jul 31 13:31:57 riskable: hehe :) yes Jul 31 13:32:18 koen: No, desktop environment. So, basically, veneco is running Lubuntu. Jul 31 13:32:21 stuk_gen: ...and I'd just like to point out that I *know* restarting from scratch is a HUGE PITA and takes forever. Not much you can do about it, unfortunately. What I did was this: I do my OE builds on the fastest system in my house, hehe Jul 31 13:32:49 riskable: this is why i have buy a new pc :P Jul 31 13:33:24 stuk_gen: Oh nice. I'll be getting a new PC as soon as Liftoff Software brings in enough money to both pay the hosting bills and pay for some new hardware. That should be soon. I've got custom app development work I'll be delivering soon Jul 31 13:33:38 agmlego: Yes... I have lubuntu.... Jul 31 13:33:47 koen: Sorry, re-read veneco's comment. Jul 31 13:33:53 Of course, I can afford to buy myself a new laptop/PC/server/whatever right now but I want to make sure it comes out of the LS account so I can expense it :) Jul 31 13:34:01 veneco: You gave a list of distro names, not of kernels. Jul 31 13:34:29 veneco: with angstom: simply type opkg update pt4-embedded Jul 31 13:34:30 A reminder to the entire IRC channel: If you think Gate One needs a feature just let me know! I'll add it! Jul 31 13:34:41 veneco: qt4-embedded Jul 31 13:35:12 Hitsch: That only works if your 'bone is hooked up to the 'net Jul 31 13:35:45 veneco: If your 'bone isn't hooked up to the net you can just copy all the package files to the sd card by hand. Just make sure to pick up all the dependencies Jul 31 13:36:46 veneco: I never tried it with an other distro. you could also download and install the right version from ftp://ftp.qt.nokia.com/qt/source/ Jul 31 13:37:09 agmlego: yes... you have rigth.... I have 2 kernels: 3.2.25 no GUI and 3.2.14 GNOME GUI.... Jul 31 13:37:13 riskable: correct Jul 31 13:38:02 veneco: The kernel you're using probably has very little to do with how much success you'll get with QT Jul 31 13:38:20 The filesystem layout and libraries are much more important Jul 31 13:39:09 You can change kernels all you want but if the underlying problem is that you compiled QT against a completely different set of libraries then it just isn't going to work Jul 31 13:39:39 You said you're running Ubuntu for ARM... Are the QT packages missing from the repository or something? Jul 31 13:41:12 riskable: I tried to compile 4.6.3 QT library for cross compile into my host.... Jul 31 13:41:30 riskable: is not necessary? Jul 31 13:41:33 veneco: Yeah, that's where something probably went wrong Jul 31 13:41:38 veneco: Probably not Jul 31 13:42:50 If you're running Ubuntu on your Beaglebone/Beagleboard you should be able to just run "sudo apt-get install qt4-demos" Jul 31 13:43:25 That should take care of installing the demos + all the qt4 dependencies (e.g. libqtcore4) Jul 31 13:43:53 It should work just like any other Ubuntu installation Jul 31 13:45:49 riskable: thank you... 2 question more: for use QT I need X windows running?? Jul 31 13:46:11 Yes. Jul 31 13:46:20 veneco: you mentioned the demos are not working... how did you try this? what errors? Jul 31 13:46:20 Qt is an X system. Jul 31 13:46:24 veneco: Assuming you want to display your QT windows inside the X server, yes. If you're going to be using X11 forwarding to an X server over the network then no Jul 31 13:46:51 riskable: As a poiint, that still requires an X server on the box, to forward that data. Jul 31 13:47:10 agmlego: Qt is not an X server ("system"). It is a windowing library, widget set, and event loop Jul 31 13:47:22 riskable: Built on X. Jul 31 13:47:23 agmlego: Yes, you need an X11 server *somewhere* Jul 31 13:47:28 or, rather, runs on X. Jul 31 13:47:47 agmlego: I'm being real technical here... Qt runs on X but it also runs on Windows, Macs, and other things (e.g. Wayland) Jul 31 13:48:03 For simplicity's sake let's just say, "Qt needs X" Jul 31 13:48:14 riskable: Yes, and to forward X11 data, there needs to be an X server on the beagle device. Either way, running the GUI locally or running it over forwarding, you need to have X running on the beagle. Jul 31 13:48:19 ...to run on an embedded Linux distro that's got a screen directly attached :) Jul 31 13:48:30 riskable: thank you very much..... Jul 31 13:48:38 agmlego: You don't need an X11 server running to forward X11 Jul 31 13:48:43 Yes you do. Jul 31 13:48:46 agmlego: You do, however, need the X11 libraries Jul 31 13:49:11 agmlego: I forward X11 at work all the time. There's no "X" in the process table when I do that Jul 31 13:49:22 riskable: Really. Jul 31 13:49:43 agmlego: Yeah, try it! Login to some Linux server somewhere and run "xterm" (make sure you've got ssh X11 forwarding working, of course) Jul 31 13:49:47 Hitsch: Thank you very much for your help.... Jul 31 13:50:04 agmlego: It's a pretty cool trick Jul 31 13:50:07 :) Jul 31 13:50:54 Gate One will eventually support X11 forwarding to an emulation layer in user's web browsers. No X11 will be run *at all* Jul 31 13:51:00 riskable: Yeah, so, I am currently logged into a box running a local DE, no "X" in the process list. Jul 31 13:51:25 And, I have tried X11 forwarding from a box not running X. It does not work. Jul 31 13:51:37 agmlego: Nothing like this? "root 1524 1486 1 Jul24 tty7 02:40:02 /usr/bin/X :0 vt7 -br -nolisten tcp -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-tiVgga" in the process list? Jul 31 13:51:45 * agmlego is not coming from a position of ignorance here. Jul 31 13:51:49 riskable: Nope. Jul 31 13:52:11 Let me setup an account for you one on of my servers! ;) Jul 31 13:52:12 veneco: if you are using qt embedded, you need to type -qws as an argument Jul 31 13:52:37 riskable: I really do not care. Jul 31 13:52:43 OK Jul 31 13:53:01 Really, you don't need X to be started to use X11 applications! Jul 31 13:53:13 If you say so. Jul 31 13:53:13 You just need somewhere to send that X11 protocol Jul 31 13:53:15 Hitsch: Ok... thanks.... Jul 31 13:54:12 Trust me, I'm a professional expert! hehe Jul 31 13:57:49 riskable: Sure. And I used to run the number-eight mirror for Debian, Ubuntu, Gentoo, and others for four years. ;-P Jul 31 13:59:25 Does anyone have exerience with alsa asoc hacking? Jul 31 14:02:26 agmlego: Seriously, you only need an X server running locally on your workstation. You don't need it running on the server you're connected to in order to use X11 forwarding Jul 31 14:03:28 I have another question... I need to configure IP Address, Netmask, Gateway, Network Address and DNS servers.... with Ubuntu distro I can do it and my Beagle can surf on the web..... But with Angstrom Distro I can do ping to my laptop... But I can't reach Internet Jul 31 14:03:57 veneco: How is your Beagle hooked up to the Internet? Jul 31 14:04:26 with Ethernet ... I use eth0 Jul 31 14:04:40 ...and eth0 is hooked up to what, exactly? Jul 31 14:04:42 veneco: /etc/network/interfaces Jul 31 14:05:09 I assume you have a physical ethernet cable going from your Beaglebone to your router? Jul 31 14:05:26 Beaglebone or beagleboard... Doesn't matter Jul 31 14:05:47 riskable: Yes... I hooked up to a router... Jul 31 14:06:05 ...and you can't, say, "ping 4.2.2.1" from your beagle when booted into Angstrom?!? Jul 31 14:06:28 It must not be configured to use DHCP Jul 31 14:06:46 veneco: did you get an ip? (ifconfig) Jul 31 14:06:54 I can't remember if the default Angstrom image uses DHCP or not Jul 31 14:07:01 No, I can't use DHCP... Jul 31 14:07:10 Oh, so you're assigning it a static address? Jul 31 14:07:15 What did you assign to it? Jul 31 14:07:16 I modifed /etc/network/interfaces address Jul 31 14:07:19 What route did you give it? Jul 31 14:07:31 Did you configure a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf? Jul 31 14:07:38 how can you assign a static address if the mac address change every reboot the bb? Jul 31 14:07:51 stuk_gen: The MAC shouldn't change on every reboot Jul 31 14:08:00 riskable: on bb...yes... Jul 31 14:08:07 um no..... Jul 31 14:08:11 What? No Jul 31 14:08:12 bb xM Jul 31 14:08:38 The BB xM is freaky deaky then Jul 31 14:08:41 on my bb xM, every times i reboot the MAC of eth change Jul 31 14:08:48 That doesn't sound right Jul 31 14:08:58 ...unless you're talking about usb0 or some other virtual interface Jul 31 14:09:02 but... /etc/resolv.conf is temp file...right?? and I change it some times.... Jul 31 14:09:06 but i read that i've paid for a single MAC Jul 31 14:09:18 Also, your MAC shouldn't matter from the perspective of a static IP address/routes Jul 31 14:09:34 veneco: No, /etc/resolv.conf is regular ol' file Jul 31 14:09:42 riskable: yes if you use connman... Jul 31 14:09:46 It only gets updated/overwritten if you're using DHCP Jul 31 14:10:22 stuk_gen: If you're using conman then you need to set your network settings via conman's files Jul 31 14:10:51 riskable: but this file is based on a MAC of eth0, and in my case change at every reboot so is unusable Jul 31 14:10:55 I thought Angstrom just switched to some systemd-based network thingie other than conman? Jul 31 14:11:41 stuk_gen: That doesn't sound right... Unless conman is configured to change your MAC or something like that Jul 31 14:11:54 stuk_gen: Regardless, you can hard-code whatever MAC address you want :) Jul 31 14:12:03 riskable: I changed /etc/resolv.conf and i have the same problem Jul 31 14:12:03 That's one of those great things about Linux :D Jul 31 14:12:07 riskable: by editing the kernel yes Jul 31 14:12:18 stuk_gen: No, you can change it on-the-fly after boot Jul 31 14:12:31 stuk_gen: Therefore, you should be able to load some script that sets it before conman even starts up Jul 31 14:12:32 riskable: udev rules Jul 31 14:12:38 So change the rules! Jul 31 14:12:44 No need to recompile anything for that Jul 31 14:12:58 Dear all, I have recently bought the bone, and as a newbie I am starting to check it. However, I have some troubles at the moment of trying to connect it through internet. This is what I did with it so far: http://pastebin.com/p9v908E5 I have not got idea of what I am doing wrong. Do you have any suggestion, or at least one link in which I could check by myself? Thanks in advance. Jul 31 14:13:04 reskable: I don't understand why with Ubuntu-armfh works fine and with angstrom don't works... Jul 31 14:13:11 veneco: What file did you edit to set your network configuration? Jul 31 14:13:11 riskable: I don't understand why with Ubuntu-armfh works fine and with angstrom don't works... Jul 31 14:13:28 veneco: because is two different os? Jul 31 14:13:34 veneco: Angstrom uses conman to manage network connections... It is a little different from how Ubuntu works Jul 31 14:13:50 veneco: so you have a nameserver in resolv.conf and an ip if you type ifconfig? Jul 31 14:14:04 riskable: thanks... I changed /etc/network/interfaces file Jul 31 14:14:31 veneco: Don't use /etc/network/intefaces on Angstrom. That's not the right file Jul 31 14:14:34 route add gateway? Jul 31 14:14:36 veneco: You want to edit /var/lib/connman/settings Jul 31 14:14:46 I hope TI or who ever gets more of the am335x kernel patches mainlined. Jul 31 14:14:55 Hitsch: I have Ip address.. I can to do ping to my laptop.... Jul 31 14:15:03 veneco: ...and /var/lib/connman/eth.config (I think, let me check that) Jul 31 14:16:32 riskable: Ok... thanks... Jul 31 14:20:56 Interesting: I just plugged in my 'bone via USB to start it up and poke around the filesystem but it wouldn't stay on. The light would come on and then it would turn off after a seconds or two Jul 31 14:21:28 So on a completely random hunch I thought to try a different USB cable... Problem solved! Stays on now Jul 31 14:21:43 That is the first time in my life I've ever encountered a bad USB cable Jul 31 14:22:23 Hitsch: I have a nameserver in resolv.conf.... I can do ping to anyone pc to my intranet.... but I can't reach internet Jul 31 14:22:24 Why did I make a wild guess that the cable was bad? Because I had the thing powered on the other day just fine using a different cable and I haven't touched it since. It has just been sitting on my desk inside the little altoids tin Jul 31 14:23:43 veneco: intranet? maybe you need to talk with your sysadmins to get internet access :) Jul 31 14:24:30 veneco: What have you got in /etc/network/interfaces? Jul 31 14:24:50 hitsch: My intranet point have access to internet... with ubuntu-armhf i can reach internet.... Jul 31 14:25:11 jkridner_: RC: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.07.31.img.xz Jul 31 14:25:21 riskable: wait a minute... I'm going to copy it... Jul 31 14:25:33 Pasted it to codepad.org or pastebin Jul 31 14:25:36 Don't spam the channel :) Jul 31 14:26:19 georgem: no need to hope, there's lots of people contributing and things being merged regularly Jul 31 14:26:40 veneco: Have you tried the instructions here? http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/02/06/beaglebone-linux-101-assigning-a-static-ip-address-with-connman/ Jul 31 14:27:20 mdp: cool Jul 31 14:27:44 zxoch: It looks like your Beaglebone is configured with just the zeroconf fallback IP address Jul 31 14:28:11 aka the "link local" address Jul 31 14:28:31 zxoch: If your bone is connected to your router you probably just need to configure it to use DHCP Jul 31 14:29:05 (which I could've sworn was the default)) Jul 31 14:30:13 I'm new to connman too but you can run this command to have it print out your config: http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/02/06/beaglebone-linux-101-assigning-a-static-ip-address-with-connman/ Jul 31 14:30:22 Oops, I mean THIS command: /usr/lib/connman/test/get-services Jul 31 14:30:37 riskable: Thank you very much for your answer, I though that nobody had read it. OK I have read what you suggest. Actually the bone is connected to my own computer whom have wireless conection. How can I configure the DHCP. Do you have any good tutorial to do it? Jul 31 14:31:00 zxoch: Ahh, so it isn't directly connected to your network. That's a little different Jul 31 14:31:03 riskable: this is my /etc/network/interfaces file Jul 31 14:31:04 http://pastebin.com/Q7zpmpqr Jul 31 14:32:15 zxoch: You need to setup your PC to route Internet traffic over the usbnet connection and also make sure that your Beaglebone is configured to use your PC as its default router. You'll also need to add a nameserver by hand to /etc/resolv.conf Jul 31 14:32:37 veneco: That's your problem... That won't work to configure a static IP on Angstrom. It will get overridden by connman Jul 31 14:33:08 veneco: So here's what you do: Set your /etc/network/interfaces back to the default (which is just 'auto eth0' I think) and the instructions at that link I posted above to configure connman to use a static IP Jul 31 14:33:42 riskable: when I ran /usr/lib/connman/get-services I got that IP4 configuration is dhcp... Jul 31 14:33:56 zxoch: I've always had trouble getting usbnet to route traffic reliably... I found it much easier to just hook my 'bone up to my router :) Jul 31 14:34:11 veneco: Yeah, that's because connman is overriding what's in /etc/network/interfaces Jul 31 14:34:17 riskable: thanks.. I'm going to use your link for configure my BB... Jul 31 14:34:21 veneco: Just follow the instructions at that link. It is a single command, really Jul 31 14:34:33 riskable: thanks again Jul 31 14:35:36 zxoch: Another way I've got it working is to hook my 'bone up to my laptop's ethernet port directly and then use my laptop route incoming ethernet traffic over the wifi Jul 31 14:36:05 As long as your system has a gigabit ethernet port you shouldn't have to worry about using a crossover cable Jul 31 14:36:44 (the gigabit ethernet spec specifies that ports autodetect and switch between direct and crossover-style connections automatically) Jul 31 14:37:21 zxoch: Also, there's always this option: http://www.adafruit.com/products/814 :) Jul 31 14:38:11 I have a supposedly-identical clone of that little USB wifi adapter and mine absolutely cannot connect to my wifi reliably... But I've heard good things about the Adafruit version so it could just be me Jul 31 14:38:53 riskable: Honestly, I haven't got enough experience on networks. Now I am at my job, and I haven't got my internet router here, however at night I am going to do what you suggest me! On the other hand, I suppose that I should have a permission to use the bone on the local network on the university, right?. FINALLY; I am on openSuSE 12.1 :P Jul 31 14:39:34 zxoch: The 'bone is just another computer of yours... Why wouldn't you be allowed to connect it? If you can connect your laptop or whatever it is no different Jul 31 14:40:53 I can't seem to prevent the kernel from reserving memory for the omapfb framebuffer.. I've tried passing "vram=0", "omapfb.vram=0", but I still see the kernel reserving VRAM memory on boot. Any ideas ? Jul 31 14:41:58 Is that a serious problem? Jul 31 14:42:01 kroon: I think it *has* to allocate it in order to start up tty0 Jul 31 14:43:12 kroon: So it might be getty or agetty that's causing the framebuffer memory to be used Jul 31 14:43:24 If I set VRAM for omapfb in kernel configuration to 0 it will not be allocated Jul 31 14:43:40 kroon: Correction: it won't be allocated *at boot* :) Jul 31 14:44:23 riskable, see my comment, if I set it to 0 in the kernel configuration will not be allocated.. so I assume it should be possible to do as a boot argument as well Jul 31 14:45:34 kroon: I'm not sure that all kernel modules can be overridden at boot time like that... It has to support such a feature Jul 31 14:45:57 "it" being the omapfb module/driver Jul 31 14:46:22 This is one of those cases where you're just going to have to check out the omapfb code Jul 31 14:46:25 Poke around Jul 31 14:46:44 riskable, aha.. yeah sounds like a good exercise Jul 31 14:46:59 And post the results here. Jul 31 14:47:15 riskable, thanks, gotta run now Jul 31 14:47:19 THis channel is publicly indexed, and thus searchable by Google, so others can more easily find the answer. Jul 31 14:47:27 agmlego, if i remember to I will :-) Jul 31 14:47:39 That ius why I reminded you. ;-P Jul 31 14:48:20 riskable, I think I am starting to understand, I am going to connect the bone on the internet router! Also, it would be useful whether you tell me where I can find more information about the use of my laptop as a route. Jul 31 14:48:48 zxoch: Sure, let me dig up a link for you... Jul 31 14:49:12 zxoch: Oh, and also remember that you can connect to the 'bone no matter what IP it gets via the 'beaglebone.local' name/address (in most cases) Jul 31 14:49:33 So if you plug it in and you're not sure what IP it got just try using 'beaglebone.local'. Works great for me (Ubuntu laptop) Jul 31 14:50:34 riskable: .local only works if your local DNS has that as a domain. ;-P Jul 31 14:51:00 agmlego: Actually .local is a zeroconf thing Jul 31 14:51:26 riskable: Right, which requires both a zeroconf system to be present, and to be configured to use .local. Jul 31 14:51:46 Both of which are true on Ubuntu, but not necessarily on other distros. Jul 31 14:51:49 Or on Windows. Jul 31 14:51:53 agmlego: As long as you have 'mdns4' in /etc/nsswitch.conf (in the 'hosts' section) and avahi-daemon is running you should be able to resolve .local addresses Jul 31 14:52:18 .local is the default for avahi and I've yet to encounter a distro that names it something different Jul 31 14:52:29 Macs use .local too I think Jul 31 14:52:46 No idea what Windows uses. Windows uses YOU anyway so I couldn't care less :P Jul 31 14:53:24 riskable: Just saying, avahi is not necessarily on every Linux distro. For instance, I have no avahi here. Jul 31 14:53:45 agmlego: Really? What distro? Don't say "Gentoo" because that just means it is your own fault :D Jul 31 14:53:52 I have seen multiple vids of Quake 3 GLES running on Beagle - where can I get the source for this? Jul 31 14:54:05 riskable: Debian. Jul 31 14:54:31 agmlego: Well then that's similar to Gentoo: It's your own fault for not installing it Jul 31 14:54:47 agmlego: Raw Debian only comes with what you put on it--for the most part Jul 31 14:55:07 riskable: Actually, I uninstalled it, but yes. I am just pointing out that .local does not necessarily exist. Jul 31 14:55:12 * danboid Do I smell raw Debian? Jul 31 14:55:41 riskable: from scratch i get another error :D ERROR: fetcher failure for URL : Jul 31 14:56:15 I've tried asking the posters of said Youtube vids how they got Q3 on their beagle a few days ago with no response Jul 31 14:56:29 riskable: http://install.source.dir.local/ti_cgt_c6000_7.2_7_setup_linux_x86.bin;name=ctg6xbin' Jul 31 14:56:32 stuk_gen: Using the regular build instructions or using that oe-build-core thing I posted earlier? Jul 31 14:56:55 riskable: using the building-angstrom instruction Jul 31 14:57:10 danboid: Not just raw, but using multiple releases and hacked to pieces to fit my needs. Jul 31 14:57:12 stuk_gen: Try the oe-build-core way: git clone git://git.bec-systems.com/oe-build-core Jul 31 14:57:45 If no one knows - where would be the best place to start looking? There is no mention on Quake 3 on the Beagle elinux wiki page Jul 31 14:58:20 and I've already put this question out to the Phoronix forums with no luck too Jul 31 14:58:56 but yet there are multiple vids of this on YT! Jul 31 14:59:13 danboid: The secret is, there is no secret. The videos were fake. ;-P Jul 31 14:59:23 riskable: before try your way i try downlaod the file and put on download folder Jul 31 14:59:35 Maybe I should try writing to Koen? Jul 31 14:59:53 or who is the Beagle SGX go to guy? Jul 31 15:01:59 The RPi port is no use it seems as it tailored esp. for the broadcom GPU in the RPi Jul 31 15:02:27 danboid: why you are interesting in quake3? Jul 31 15:02:29 but the Beagle version should be compat with my Panda, if this is not some elaborate hoax Jul 31 15:03:07 because Q3 is one of the very few and also the best open source OGLES app/game available Jul 31 15:03:19 kinda Jul 31 15:03:28 wrt available for OGLES Jul 31 15:03:56 if you're part of the secret brotherhood which we're not :) Jul 31 15:05:42 Is there a (Ubuntu or Debian) armhf repo of Beage apps I could look at? Jul 31 15:05:59 just in case there is a binary Jul 31 15:07:46 alternately, what would be the best forum to ask about this? Jul 31 15:08:04 or mailing list? Jul 31 15:14:41 riskable: I have connected the bone through the ethernet router, and sth is wrong. Look what I have http://pastebin.com/dXw4JvJV Jul 31 15:16:35 zxoch: grep mdns /etc/nsswitch.conf on your Linux desktop and tell me if it lists mdns4 somewhere in there Jul 31 15:20:25 riskable: this is what I've got "hosts:files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns" Jul 31 15:21:18 zxoch: OK, then just double-check that avahi-daemon is running "ps -ef | grep avahi" and if it is then your beaglebone simply isn't getting an IP address Jul 31 15:27:40 riskable: this is what I got: http://pastebin.com/VUcSw5qh. in order to get an IP address I should go to the IT depto here at my job to have one. As soon as I will arrive at home I am going to check what you suggest me here, maybe at home with the internet router would work! Jul 31 15:34:06 zxoch: Yeah, it will most likely work on a vanilla Internet home router... IT departments do wacky things :) Jul 31 15:36:40 riskable: Thank you very much for your time! I couldn't wait to come to home & check it out! If I have further doubts, I am going to bother you again :P Jul 31 15:37:36 OK, if I don't respond right away just be patient. I don't usually log out of IRC and I get notifications queued up whenever someone mentions my name Jul 31 15:37:51 I'll respond eventually :) Jul 31 18:55:20 Hitsch: do you know how I can solve this error? ==> ./application -qws ==> application: cannot connect to X server Jul 31 21:37:05 just fyi, tomorrow is the last day of Call for Participation for the Embedded Linux Conferece Europe - proposals need to be submitted by midnight PST tomorrow.... Jul 31 21:56:43 prpplague: how many "l33t gpio programming with Raspberry Pi" submissions are there now? ;) Jul 31 21:57:10 mdp: hehe, i'll never tell Jul 31 22:03:11 must be a irrational number ;) Jul 31 22:14:42 ds2: imaginary number, more likely Jul 31 22:28:46 hi... is possible remove connam? Jul 31 22:29:19 I have 0.79 version... and I can't configure my static ip address Aug 01 00:20:39 Having some problems following the instructions for installing debian on the beagle board.( http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian ) When i try to do *** git clone git://github.com/RobertCNelson/netinstall.git *** all i get is *** sh: git: not found ***. Total noob here any help would be appreciated. Aug 01 00:42:08 have you installed the git application? Aug 01 01:48:16 koen: cpsw, w00t! Aug 01 01:50:07 koen: I guess that's still not going to actually work without DMA, but good to have DT in. One step closer.... Aug 01 02:42:08 alan_o, cpsw has its own dma...the "missing" dma is the edma dmaengine support Aug 01 02:43:04 mdp: hmm.. so is SPI tied to the edma dmaengine? Aug 01 02:43:27 alan_o, that only blocks use of spi-omap2-mcspi and omap_hsmmc.c, among the notable drivers. Aug 01 02:43:28 mdp: I assume USB also has its own DMA, because it's hard to imagine USB without DMA, yet the USB is working. Aug 01 02:43:40 alan_o, yes, but it can be patched to run pio only easily Aug 01 02:43:57 so what's in there right now is PIO for USB? Aug 01 02:44:08 and by "in there" I mean beaglebone-3.6 branch Aug 01 02:44:19 well, the peripheral blocks use different DMA engines by design. Aug 01 02:44:53 for musb, it has it's own cppi 4.1 dma block on this part Aug 01 02:44:59 oh ok, so mcspi and hsmmc are closer to the core then. Aug 01 02:45:05 cpsw has its own integrated dma Aug 01 02:45:14 not really Aug 01 02:45:35 Hello to all. I am not yet an owner of a beagle device, but I'm quite interested in making a very ghetto, but very functional tablet. My idea is thus: Netbook screen with a touchscreen overlay (or netbook touchscreen, if I can find one) hooked up to the beagle via LVDS and usb. A usbhub to extend usb ports. Arch arm as the OS. I'm a bit stuck on the best way to supply power, but for the time being, I was Aug 01 02:45:36 but the edma services many peripherals with the dma support Aug 01 02:45:38 thinking of using a portable phone charger. I realize it wouldn't be pretty, but it'd be a really fun pet project. 1) Is this feasible? 2) Any advice? 3) Any advice on powering such a device? Aug 01 02:46:17 alan_o, just like the sdma engine on OMAP (aka "omap dma" when rmk talks about it) services many peripherals Aug 01 02:47:11 hwkiller-netbook: http://beagleboardtoys.com/wiki/index.php?title=BeagleBone_LCD7 Im sure there are others Aug 01 02:47:41 alan_o, no need to imagine USB without DMA, you can try it with the PIO only config option ;) Aug 01 02:48:06 there are certain use cases where that has to be used, unfortunately Aug 01 02:49:01 mdp: interesting. Well, I guess I mean it's hard to imagine it not being supported, since even a PIC18 has DMA for USB :) But yeah, I know what you mean. Sometimes you have to make do with simpler stuff. Aug 01 02:49:06 Ooh, thanks alan_o. I also found one over at www.chalk-elec.com; I'm still stuck on how to power the entire thing without a wall though. Aug 01 02:50:41 alan_o, oh, it's there...just there's some "issues" unfortunately Aug 01 02:50:45 they'll be fixed Aug 01 02:50:59 mdp: I appreciate the work you guys are doing on getting the bone going on a mainline kernel. I'm already able to use it to work on my SPI driver, so it's already of benefit Aug 01 02:52:04 anyway, check out section 11.3.20 of the TRM for a list of the peripherals that are serviced by EDMA Aug 01 02:52:46 oh, one thing I'm not sure you've seen is that I get messages about trying to suspend the USB bus while active. I figured out that it's because I'm using the USB device part but not the host part, and something in the host part is trying to suspend it every 2 seconds. No worries though. I just put a USB stick in and it stopped. I'll take a look when I get a chance but it may be a while. Aug 01 02:53:49 alan_o, np, lots of people of involved. hopefully I'll have the rfc series for the mach-davinci/ compatible edma dmaengine driver up in a week or two, then I'll move it to am335x after that. that will fix the mcspi and hsmmc issue in mainline Aug 01 02:54:58 there has been extra time needed to convert existing users of the non-dmaengine edma "driver" in davinci-land. Aug 01 02:55:21 mdp: hey are you doing a virtual 6502 or using an actual 6502 component? Aug 01 02:55:43 prpplague: should I revise my wording?...it's a real 6502! Aug 01 02:55:55 I like real h/w ;) Aug 01 02:55:58 mdp: hehe me too Aug 01 02:56:14 mdp: i found a nice batch of 8048's i was thinking of ordering Aug 01 02:56:15 mdp: got a link for this 6502 project? Aug 01 02:56:45 alan_o, not yet, I have some stuff prototyped...will post blog entries as I document it Aug 01 02:56:45 mdp: hehe, i have to be very careful - retro computing is like alcohol for an alcoholic..... Aug 01 02:56:50 hehe Aug 01 02:57:33 It's funny how some people are drawn to old stuff... sometimes just because it's old, but other times because we can see how much we did with so little back then. I'm one of those people. Aug 01 02:57:53 Makes me sick to think about the CPU in my phone and how it can possibly be slow :( Aug 01 02:59:09 prpplague, I have the modern WDC parts...the 14mhz capable 6502 and 6522 via Aug 01 02:59:30 mdp: ahh nice Aug 01 02:59:50 prpplague: and I'm tinkering with a cpld-based spi controller that's retro made for 65xx **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 01 02:59:59 2012