**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 14 02:59:58 2012
Aug 14 03:27:42 <mranostay> prpplague: did the E-ELC CFP notifications get delayed?
Aug 14 03:35:50 <ds2> Olympic backlogs? :D
Aug 14 03:38:21 <mranostay> heh
Aug 14 03:42:38 <mranostay> ds2: submit a paper?
Aug 14 03:43:03 <ds2> nah
Aug 14 03:43:08 <ds2> traveled out for this year
Aug 14 03:57:23 <prpplague> mranostay: for which conference?
Aug 14 05:32:28 <Wally> Hello!
Aug 14 05:32:34 <Wally> anyone seen zezu here lately?
Aug 14 05:39:20 <mranostay> who is zezu?
Aug 14 05:41:25 <Wally> Some crazy
Aug 14 05:41:34 <Wally> Helped with nullDC
Aug 14 05:43:31 <_av500_> gm
Aug 14 05:45:57 <qing> hi~~all, I have question about NEON and VFP.
Aug 14 05:45:58 <qing> I compiled my src(no vector operation but just floating point calculation) use the gcc flag "-fmpu=neon",
Aug 14 05:45:58 <qing> but I found the code generated is no differnet between the flag "-fmpu=vfp"...
Aug 14 05:49:23 <qing> does this mean when compiled the floating point calculation(no vertor operation),"-mfpu=neon" is same as the "-mfpu=vfp"?
Aug 14 05:50:05 <_av500_> do you see neon code used?
Aug 14 05:51:16 <qing> no, I don't use the Neon Intrinsics
Aug 14 05:52:41 <qing> my cross tools is CodeSourcery 2012.03
Aug 14 06:28:50 <mranostay> emeb_mac: nice looking PCB
Aug 14 06:29:16 <emeb_mac> mranostay: ty
Aug 14 06:29:38 <emeb_mac> there are a few things wrong with it, but nothing that can't be worked around.
Aug 14 06:31:00 <mranostay> emeb_mac: hw or sw issues?
Aug 14 06:31:39 <emeb_mac> mranostay: a few routing glitches - the pushbutton footprints don't quite match up with the actual hookups
Aug 14 06:31:59 <mranostay> emeb_mac: used the autorouted?
Aug 14 06:32:06 <mranostay> *autorouter
Aug 14 06:32:10 <emeb_mac> mranostay:
Aug 14 06:32:21 <emeb_mac> mranostay: nope - all by hand.
Aug 14 06:33:56 <mranostay> seems like the only way to do it
Aug 14 06:34:19 <mranostay> i only use the autorouter initially to see if placement seems sane
Aug 14 06:34:30 <mranostay> then ripup and route manually
Aug 14 06:41:28 <emeb_mac> Yep - never use autoroute.
Aug 14 07:00:36 <orated> Hello! I'd like to know if OpenCV install and runs properly in BeagleBoard XM or there is a need to change the OpenCV code for it to run on XM. I've been coding with OpenCV library on laptop, why is it that same code will not run on BB? And lastly, how can I use DSP of XM for image processing using OpenCV?
Aug 14 09:01:16 <av500> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-181-041
Aug 14 09:02:40 <ynezz> dust collector?
Aug 14 09:03:46 <av500> yeah
Aug 14 11:09:23 <fraviofii> hello all
Aug 14 11:09:50 <fraviofii> does anybody could give me a clue about how to rebuild x-load for beaglebone?
Aug 14 11:10:33 <fraviofii> I cannot find anything specific to beaglebone ... just beagleboard
Aug 14 11:11:09 <fraviofii> I tried to build x-load recipe from yocto (meta-ti), but it crashes
Aug 14 11:13:41 <fraviofii> Are those the same? X-load for BeagleBoard and X-load for BeagleBone?
Aug 14 11:26:11 <av500> fraviofii: not the same
Aug 14 11:44:36 <fraviofii> av500: do you know were can I find the sources to build x-load for beaglebone?
Aug 14 11:47:24 <koen> it's all in the SRM
Aug 14 11:58:33 <fraviofii> SRM just links to CircuitCo Wiki
Aug 14 11:59:00 <fraviofii> which in turn show a procedure to load a sd card
Aug 14 11:59:21 <koen> the SRM on the website has a lot more
Aug 14 11:59:26 <koen> maybe you have an old version
Aug 14 11:59:51 <janne> wtf forum from hell:
Aug 14 11:59:51 <janne> Post a reply
Aug 14 11:59:53 <janne> 4110 posts • Page 102 of 411
Aug 14 12:01:23 <fraviofii> strange, my SRM here has 83 pages
Aug 14 12:01:44 <fraviofii> BBONE_SRM RevA5.0.1
Aug 14 12:02:02 <koen> janne: you imply that there are ph0rums which aren't from hell
Aug 14 12:02:19 <koen> fraviofii: get the one from the website, your's is a few months old alredy
Aug 14 12:03:08 <fraviofii> koen: I did that ... strange. Let me try again
Aug 14 12:06:11 <janne> koen: that was not my intention. all judging statements should be considered to be normalised to the average ph0rum
Aug 14 12:08:33 <fraviofii> koen: are we talking about the same document? SRM is the document with the hardware description of the board, isn't it?
Aug 14 12:09:34 <mru> yes
Aug 14 12:10:20 <koen> Oh, FFS
Aug 14 12:10:25 * koen kicks jkridner
Aug 14 12:11:01 <koen> fraviofii: https://github.com/CircuitCo/BeagleBone-RevA6/blob/master/BeagleBone_SRM_A6_0_1.pdf?raw=true
Aug 14 12:11:14 <koen> kridner hasn't updated the beagleboard.org website.....
Aug 14 12:11:20 <mru> janne: what ph0rum did you find?
Aug 14 12:11:26 <av500> xda
Aug 14 12:13:15 <janne> http://forum.tegraowners.com
Aug 14 12:13:40 <fraviofii> koen: thank you very much
Aug 14 12:14:22 <mru> janne: and what kind of brain meltdown brought you there?
Aug 14 12:15:22 <fraviofii> but ... I believe it doesn't mention about x-load source code
Aug 14 12:15:24 <janne> "tegradc tegradc.0: overlay stuck in underflow state. resetting."
Aug 14 12:16:16 <fraviofii> my problem is: I designed a beaglebone based board, but I switched from MMC0 to MMC1 the boot SD-CARD
Aug 14 12:16:42 <fraviofii> I would like to change X-Load in order to load u-boot from the correct place
Aug 14 12:17:09 <janne> the kind of troubles ones run into if one starts to help running ICS on a honeycomb tablet and gets a free tablet
Aug 14 12:22:33 <thurbad> why not put u-boot in the place it expects rather than modifying MLO?
Aug 14 12:22:48 <thurbad> oh.. just read up... n/m
Aug 14 12:23:15 <thurbad> <- slow on the uptake :P
Aug 14 12:24:16 <fraviofii> :)
Aug 14 12:24:31 <fraviofii> x-load for beagleboard is quite easy to find
Aug 14 12:24:41 <fraviofii> but for beaglebone ...
Aug 14 12:25:43 <fraviofii> I'm using Yocto to build the distribution ... but compilation fails when I try to build x-load recipe
Aug 14 12:26:26 <thurbad> the setup-scripts for angstrom don't have MLO?
Aug 14 12:27:44 <fraviofii> that's what I'm checking right now.
Aug 14 12:28:57 <fraviofii> angstrom is openembedded, isn't it?
Aug 14 12:29:29 <thurbad> it uses openembedded to build yes
Aug 14 12:30:02 <fraviofii> I'll check the scripts
Aug 14 12:30:21 <fraviofii> I have openembedded here, and I could not find beablebone board
Aug 14 12:31:16 <fraviofii> For yocto, I'm using meta-ti
Aug 14 12:36:57 <isbric> Hi, i need some help with my beaglebone
Aug 14 12:37:34 <isbric> im using a bone with a usbwifi dongle, and i need some help figuring out how to power the setup.
Aug 14 12:38:36 <isbric> i curently have a battry of 11.1v and need to switch that down to 5v, any advice on how to go about this?
Aug 14 12:40:44 <isbric> my first approach was to use a 7805 but it picks up to much heat and it drops down to 4.3v witch is causing me trubble
Aug 14 12:41:36 <fraviofii> thurbad: angstrom setup-scripts uses the same meta-ti that I'm using
Aug 14 12:42:28 <fraviofii> thurbad: but, when I try to build in my yocto, it doesn't work. It can't find beaglebone_config in x-load
Aug 14 12:42:49 <fraviofii> thurbad: which, in fact, doesn't exist
Aug 14 12:44:02 <koen> fraviofii: so your yocto config is broken, use the angstrom setup-scripts, those work
Aug 14 12:44:31 <fraviofii> koen: I don't think so :-)
Aug 14 12:44:44 <fraviofii> koen: MLO is generated by U-BOOT
Aug 14 12:45:07 <koen> well, what do I know about all this
Aug 14 12:45:12 <fraviofii> koen: yes, of course it works. Probably my complete build will work too
Aug 14 12:46:12 <koen> you're saying 'bitbake u-boot' produces a broken MLO, but you expect a full build to work?
Aug 14 12:46:27 <fraviofii> koen: I saw on a tutorial explaining how to have gentoo on beaglebone the guy telling to get MLO from u-boot. It was strange for me at once
Aug 14 12:46:45 <fraviofii> koen: is it broken?
Aug 14 12:47:36 <fraviofii> I have to test ... but it seems that, for beaglebone, the u-boot is responsible for generating the MLO
Aug 14 12:47:45 <koen> use the angstrom setup-scripts, those work
Aug 14 12:47:50 <av500> isbric: well, use a switching regulator
Aug 14 12:47:54 <fraviofii> absolutely
Aug 14 12:52:19 <fraviofii> yocto works too ... what I did was tryed to build just the x-load
Aug 14 12:52:46 <fraviofii> in machine configuration from meta-ti for beaglebone there is no dependency for x-load
Aug 14 12:55:48 <isbric> av500: thx, after some reading i understand i will need to clean up the voltage if im using a switching regulator. do you have a circuit or such i culd try out?
Aug 14 13:00:40 <av500> isbric: the internet should find you some circuits
Aug 14 13:04:55 <av500> isbric: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10104
Aug 14 13:06:17 <av500> its even a TI chip...
Aug 14 13:10:32 <mdp> +1
Aug 14 13:10:38 <av500> a national one even
Aug 14 13:10:46 <av500> not that international crap
Aug 14 13:10:50 <av500> and free samples
Aug 14 13:10:50 <mdp> acq++
Aug 14 13:10:55 <av500> and I just ordered some
Aug 14 13:11:05 <mdp> av500, that won't feed my babies...stop that
Aug 14 13:11:16 <av500> they dont like to munch on TSSOP?
Aug 14 13:11:25 <av500> deep fried?
Aug 14 13:11:27 <mdp> hrm, I can run an experiment
Aug 14 13:11:49 <av500> please
Aug 14 13:11:50 <mdp> and deep fried anything is pretty darn good
Aug 14 13:11:56 <av500> yep
Aug 14 13:12:29 <mdp> I'm told a nearby fair was selling deep-fried butter
Aug 14 13:12:39 <av500> yeah
Aug 14 13:12:42 <av500> heard about that one
Aug 14 13:12:59 <mdp> I hate to admit, it's like a train wreck I need to go see
Aug 14 13:12:59 <av500> this IC is nice to redo my in-car 5V setup
Aug 14 13:13:54 <av500> hmm, soldering the GND pad will be hard though
Aug 14 13:14:17 <av500> I'll drill a hole thru and screw it down...
Aug 14 13:15:09 <mdp> definitely save some $$ with your own run of those pcbs and sampling some parts
Aug 14 13:15:34 <av500> nah
Aug 14 13:15:43 <av500> ill just fudge something
Aug 14 13:16:07 <av500> I'll clamp it down on a piece of copper and wire the rest intheair
Aug 14 13:16:22 <mdp> classic
Aug 14 13:16:27 <av500> then butter, hot glue and batter...
Aug 14 13:16:36 <mdp> add bacon
Aug 14 13:16:44 <av500> yeah, country fair, here I come
Aug 14 13:20:31 <foobar321> Hi. Is there step-by-step instruction for copying rootfs.ext2 from buildroot to SD Card?
Aug 14 13:21:42 <thurbad> get the tar archive, and use tar
Aug 14 13:22:08 <thurbad> 1 command, 1 size fits all, as long as you have enough free space
Aug 14 13:24:37 <foobar321> so should I put this into tar right now ?
Aug 14 13:25:12 <foobar321> Or select different output in buildroot make menuconfig or what?
Aug 14 13:25:14 <isbric> av500: thx
Aug 14 13:25:21 <thurbad> no, the ext2 is a different format, not sure how to use it... maybe dd?
Aug 14 13:25:57 <thurbad> and you'll still have ext2 as the filesystem....
Aug 14 13:26:24 <av500> isbric: that was just an example
Aug 14 13:26:43 <av500> but 3A in such a small package is nice
Aug 14 13:31:14 <foobar321> thurbad: is it bad for micro SD card ?
Aug 14 13:32:56 <isbric> av500: yes it is.
Aug 14 13:35:29 <thurbad> not bad
Aug 14 13:48:57 <av500> mru: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs
Aug 14 13:49:04 * dm8tbr should figure out a nice way to use the stack of li-ion batteries he has. can't decide if step-up or two in series and low-drop...
Aug 14 13:49:32 * dm8tbr cringes
Aug 14 13:50:09 <av500> dm8tbr: stack 'em and short 'em
Aug 14 13:50:13 <mru> av500: "requires hardware keyboard"
Aug 14 13:50:33 <dm8tbr> av500: holy hand-grenades, bat-man!
Aug 14 14:00:01 <av500> mru: it has busybox, thus it is jailbait :)
Aug 14 14:00:24 <mru> I don't see the point in running emacs on an android
Aug 14 14:00:47 <mru> what I want is a keyboard suitable for running emacs in an ssh session
Aug 14 14:03:59 <av500> I want the kill pigs by throwing birds at them
Aug 14 14:04:03 <av500> the->to
Aug 14 14:17:05 <mdp> av500, yet the first reviewer clearly saw lack of emacs as a gaping hole in android
Aug 14 14:18:35 <av500> yes
Aug 14 14:18:52 <av500> I mean, I have to use the horrid android UI to do email and web browsing
Aug 14 14:19:36 <av500> at least the 3rd commenter is asking for source code...
Aug 14 14:19:40 <av500> can we sue google now?
Aug 14 14:20:52 <mdp> yes
Aug 14 14:21:08 <mdp> lawsuits are easy to file, more challenging to get a settlement/win
Aug 14 14:21:12 <av500> mdp: please do and add me in for $10mio damages
Aug 14 14:21:26 <av500> per android device, I have 17 listed...
Aug 14 14:21:29 <mdp> we should go for some pain and suffering too
Aug 14 14:21:52 <av500> you do that, I'm only in for the money
Aug 14 14:22:02 <LetoThe2nd> yeah! money!
Aug 14 14:22:13 <LetoThe2nd> (... for nothing and chicks for free)
Aug 14 14:22:25 <av500> "Mony Mony"....
Aug 14 14:22:46 <dm8tbr> who the f* is mony?... oh wrong song
Aug 14 14:23:04 <mdp> "I'm a vi guy, and found that I could no longer sleep after seeing emacs for Android...I will require additional compensation for the lack of sleep affecting my family life. We are asking for $10bln in damages"
Aug 14 14:23:55 <mdp> av500, it's ok, pain and suffering claims just entitle us to more money...work with me here
Aug 14 14:24:32 <mdp> shouldn't be problem to hire a couple expert witness shrinks
Aug 14 14:25:15 <LetoThe2nd> mdp: "so i went to a shrink, to analyze my dream - she said it's lack of sXX thats bringing me down" *sing
Aug 14 14:25:26 <mdp> hehe
Aug 14 14:25:54 <LetoThe2nd> mdp: "so i went to a wXXXX, she said my life's a bore - and couldn't stop whining 'cause its bringing her down"
Aug 14 14:26:10 <LetoThe2nd> green day indeed have their bright moments.
Aug 14 14:29:44 <av500> I declare this a pink day!
Aug 14 14:29:54 <av500> cue jayabharath
Aug 14 14:30:01 * LetoThe2nd coughs up a pink cotton ball
Aug 14 14:31:33 <mdp> LetoThe2nd, the power of suggestion..you convinced me to queue up basket case
Aug 14 14:33:07 <LetoThe2nd> hrhrhr
Aug 14 14:33:34 * LetoThe2nd rather has Halestorm on heavy rotation.
Aug 14 14:34:10 <LetoThe2nd> ... not to be confused with Alestorm, which are completely unrelated but also rock nevertheless :)
Aug 14 14:51:50 <av500> Tsiolkovsky!
Aug 14 14:53:36 <LetoThe2nd> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggyC0FOzqHM
Aug 14 14:53:49 <LetoThe2nd> av500: bless ya.
Aug 14 14:56:37 <av500> LetoThe2nd: I am geolocated to the Vatican state and thus cannot watch any utub videos....
Aug 14 14:57:00 <LetoThe2nd> av500: i really hope thats not infective.
Aug 14 14:57:28 <av500> LetoThe2nd: I take the pills regularly
Aug 14 14:58:46 <LetoThe2nd> av500: tell the border guards you want to walk through the bioscanner ;)
Aug 14 14:59:12 <av500> no, I wont leave the bällebad today...
Aug 14 14:59:36 <LetoThe2nd> mdp: anyways, being a bit more suggestive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyHcIHssdHA&feature=related
Aug 14 16:18:45 <aleek> does the HUB_3V3 voltage is provided to the USB3320 automatically, or I need to program the TPS device?
Aug 14 16:19:40 <aleek> (beagleboard-xm rev C)
Aug 14 17:55:46 <Iroquoi3> hello I am requiruing some assistance.  I am trying to get the SPI working on beagleboard Rev C4 to talk to an ADC chip.  Unfotunately I am a "newbie" at all of this, so I need assistance getting SPI working on beagleboard.  First I know I need to rebuild the kernel, but I dont know where to start from there, I have looked up multiple tutorials and forums, but I am still utterly confused and lost.
Aug 14 18:30:48 <W1N9Zr0> Iroquoi3 - http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom http://www.slimlogic.co.uk/2011/05/openembeddedangstrom-kernel-workflow/
Aug 14 19:04:00 <mouser> mkcard.txt keeps destroying my partitioning tables, has this happened to anyone here before?
Aug 14 19:05:00 <mouser> It'll say device is busy, disk currently in use. Repartitioning is a bad idea, then:
Aug 14 19:05:14 <mouser> umount: /dev/mapper/sdcp2: not found mke2fs 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010) Could not stat /dev/mapper/sdcp2 --- No such file or directory
Aug 14 19:28:09 <mouser> Now I'm getting:
Aug 14 19:28:32 <mouser> umount: /dev/sdc1: not mounted
Aug 14 19:28:46 <mouser> mkfs.vfat 3.0.9 (31 Jan 2010) mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdc1
Aug 14 19:28:54 <mouser> umount: /dev/sdc2: not mounted
Aug 14 19:29:48 <mouser> I'm beginning to wonder if it's a bad SD card.
Aug 14 19:35:26 <mouser> http://pastebin.com/9513StuG
Aug 14 21:00:29 <cwicks_> good morning beagleboard.org!
Aug 14 21:05:32 <KeatonT> Good morning cwillu
Aug 14 21:05:39 <KeatonT> … he left
Aug 14 21:05:43 <KeatonT> well then nv,
Aug 14 21:05:45 <KeatonT> nvm*
Aug 15 00:14:20 <ds2> hmmmm
Aug 15 00:20:05 <Wally> indeed
Aug 15 01:24:34 <drgalaxy> BLINK USR0, BLINK!!  pretty please?
Aug 15 01:25:43 <mru> <blink>usr0</blink>
Aug 15 01:26:35 <drgalaxy> sadly... that tag has been removed
Aug 15 01:26:55 <mru> nonsense, it's right there
Aug 15 01:27:12 <drgalaxy> so here's the fail story I'm living...   Halted Linux, removed power, started removing things from my breadboards.  Now the power light is solid from both USB/wall power and it shows up with two USB serial devices.. one of which writes 'C' to the screen several times every minute or so.
Aug 15 01:27:38 <mru> good, means it's live and well
Aug 15 01:27:38 <drgalaxy> oh and I swapped SD cards with one that has booted on this machine before
Aug 15 01:27:58 <drgalaxy> yeah.. my last Bone had the "brief power light of death"
Aug 15 01:28:01 <mru> for some reason it ain't liking the card
Aug 15 01:28:55 <drgalaxy> a shimmer of hope!  hmm.. card swap should only be done without power, right?
Aug 15 01:29:57 <mru> power is ok
Aug 15 01:30:02 <mru> just don't do it while it's writing
Aug 15 01:30:11 <mru> the rom does not write
Aug 15 01:30:29 <mru> being read-only and all
Aug 15 01:31:12 <drgalaxy> so if these two cards don't work.. make another?
Aug 15 01:31:21 <mru> or remake them
Aug 15 01:32:15 <drgalaxy> I noticed after I ran 'halt' the last time that USR0 stayed off but USR1 stayed on\
Aug 15 01:34:13 <drgalaxy> thank you MRU, I guess it's time to write a card
Aug 15 01:34:23 <drgalaxy> GRRR.. everything was going so well
Aug 15 02:09:50 <thurbad> can anyone recommend a GLES emulator for standard pc linux/ubuntu specifically
Aug 15 02:42:30 <BeagleBone> hello, everyone. Can I directly connect USB host connector on beaglebone to PC in order to transmit data with high speed?
Aug 15 02:44:38 <BeagleBone> Did anyone did this before?
Aug 15 02:45:31 <BeagleBone> Sorry. Did anyone connect beaglebone with computer in this way before?
Aug 15 02:47:16 <BeagleBone> Is it possible to connect Beaglebone and PC using a cable with two type A connectors (both are male)?
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