**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 13 03:00:00 2012 Sep 13 04:31:39 hmmmmmm Sep 13 04:35:14 hmmmmmm+ Sep 13 04:56:58 mooo Sep 13 04:59:55 * mranostay worries about dm8tbr Sep 13 05:00:50 mranostay: what, a good moooo in the morning keeps you sane through the day. Sep 13 05:09:08 sure Sep 13 05:09:50 so at E-ELC everyone staying at the conference hotel? Sep 13 05:16:34 mh, need to book the stuff... Sep 13 05:16:46 130 euros is a lot Sep 13 05:17:22 dm8tbr: you are going? Sep 13 05:17:44 yes Sep 13 05:18:04 cool Sep 13 05:19:28 putting more irc nicks to faces :) Sep 13 05:20:03 mranostay: what? you don't remember me from ELC? :[ Sep 13 05:22:22 * mranostay LinkedIn stalks Sep 13 05:22:57 ok yeah i think we met. i'm horrible with names :) Sep 13 05:26:52 Hmmmmmmmmmm Sep 13 05:27:10 have they started printing irc nicks on badges? Sep 13 05:27:47 it would help Sep 13 05:28:00 not for my nick of course :) Sep 13 05:28:17 why not? ;) Sep 13 05:31:06 * mranostay triples checks PCB design before sending off Sep 13 05:33:57 what can possibly go wrong.... Sep 13 05:34:43 wasting money :) Sep 13 05:35:19 many mistakes are repairable afterwards Sep 13 05:35:35 it isn't like you are making a strawberry pi Sep 13 05:36:35 heh Sep 13 05:37:03 i've learned to add extra pads for early revs Sep 13 05:37:25 esp if i can just cut traces if i need too or have a no connect Sep 13 05:37:27 it is a 2L board right? Sep 13 05:37:33 yep Sep 13 05:37:50 those are usually fixable unless it is something totally egregious Sep 13 05:37:57 heh true Sep 13 05:38:08 whatca making? Sep 13 05:38:18 geiger cape Sep 13 05:38:41 cape?? what are you using as the booster? Sep 13 05:39:26 and I'd think any shorts would exceed the input voltage limits on most of the pins ;) Sep 13 05:39:57 oh for sure :) Sep 13 05:40:04 so really really check :) Sep 13 05:40:28 and i test off the board at first Sep 13 05:40:28 it would be clever to use a GPIO to bit bang the booster Sep 13 05:43:03 * mranostay can't tell if ds2 joking or not Sep 13 05:44:55 not joking Sep 13 05:45:13 you have seen those low cost designs for during the U boom time, right? Sep 13 05:46:28 mranostay: pfff, stalking but not connecting... Sep 13 05:47:34 :) Sep 13 07:51:56 Hi, does the flyswatter 2 work with code composer studio on the BeagleBoard XM? Sep 13 07:52:29 I really like how the bone can debugged Sep 13 07:56:55 or is it better to buy one of those http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/XDS100#Where_to_get_an_XDS100_.2F_Where_to_buy_an_XDS100 ? Sep 13 08:08:54 the bone has a xds100v2 builtin Sep 13 08:11:32 * tasslehoff gets the occasional 'NETDEV WATCHDOG timeout' on his board with smsc95xx and the good old 2.6.39 kernel. anyone else? Sep 13 08:45:01 Hi folks! Do any one know of a successful use of Beaglebone + CAN cape? Sep 13 08:45:26 It looks like the CAN drivers is not completed, but still there is CAN capes available at store. Sep 13 08:45:49 Hello Sep 13 08:46:53 I'd like to install Angstrom into my BB-xM but I got a prolem: the booting process stops at "Unconpressing Kernel" Sep 13 08:47:46 Enable CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK which might give you some hints. Sep 13 08:47:53 Cuong: ^ Sep 13 08:47:59 anyone had experience Sep 13 08:48:09 Hi speakman Sep 13 08:49:52 Sorry speakman, Im a very new Linuxer Sep 13 08:49:58 so, how can I Enable CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK Sep 13 09:14:02 Cuong: in the kernel configuration, then rebuild your kernel and try booting Sep 13 09:26:15 how can i find out if gptimer(12) or gptimer(1) is used for timer input Sep 13 10:52:41 sr debugger? Sep 13 12:58:23 someone know a video where i can see how can i use jtag in beagleboard? i mean what i can do with jtag... Sep 13 12:58:31 something like avrdude for avr cpu Sep 13 12:59:26 * mru can still remember when people would read manuals to find out how to use things Sep 13 12:59:31 ah, those were the days... Sep 13 13:00:03 * stuk_gen_ pensa che certe persone dovrebbero pensare e non parlare Sep 13 13:03:18 mru, the lazyweb is an improvement on manuals Sep 13 13:03:45 mdp: nothing wrong with electronic manuals Sep 13 13:03:51 but insisting on a _video_... Sep 13 13:06:35 consider it part of the content consumption culture Sep 13 13:47:02 Hello everybody, anyone tried to compile a toolchain using crossdev tool ? I am getting "libtool.m4: error: problem compiling FC test program..." Sep 13 13:56:47 the toolchain oe procudes is good enough for me Sep 13 14:26:28 okay.. thanks Sep 13 14:27:15 I have another question.. it seems that python in the default install of my beagleboard xml is too minimal.. it even doesn't include a math library... can someone tell me how can I install a more complete version of python ? Sep 13 14:29:23 whats your os? Sep 13 14:32:31 my current os is gentoo, the os found in beagleboard is amstrong os Sep 13 14:40:06 angstroem Sep 13 14:40:09 opkg update Sep 13 14:40:12 opkg list Sep 13 14:53:29 oh, the answer seems to be opkg install python-modules Sep 13 14:57:08 Hi, does anyone have a working kernel config with latest vanilla kernel? Sep 13 14:57:08 * PjotrOrial is searching for it for hours as it hangs on reading the mmc Sep 13 14:57:28 beagleboard xm rev 3 that is ^ Sep 13 14:59:41 so I have a boot stop at :Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2 Sep 13 15:02:11 #ti is private? Sep 13 16:15:38 getting fun with arm 2012.03-57 : when using pre-processor with -E option, if you don't specify include directories the result is an empty file, while 2009q1 version (and x86) produces the expected result Sep 13 16:48:28 bizulk: codesourcery? Sep 13 16:48:48 mru: yes Sep 13 16:48:56 what exactly did you do? Sep 13 16:49:39 do you write my name or is there a special cmd to use (noob for irc use) Sep 13 16:49:57 <_av500_> tab Sep 13 16:49:59 most irc clients have tab completion of names Sep 13 16:50:15 if they don't, they're not worth using Sep 13 16:50:53 mru: thanks. I cross compiled libpng with the latest version available and there was a link error. I am explaining it in my blog Sep 13 16:51:47 exactly what command behaved unexpectedly? Sep 13 16:51:47 mru: http://selso.liberado.free.fr/wordpress/?p=166 Sep 13 16:53:52 mru: please read my blog's note Sep 13 16:54:01 that's not saying much Sep 13 16:54:07 other than that there was an error Sep 13 16:54:47 <_av500_> it was a notable error Sep 13 16:55:33 you can never rely on any particular compiler behaviour if there is an error anywhere Sep 13 16:55:37 mru: notable ? "saying much" : preprocessor does not behave as arm2009q1 Sep 13 16:55:53 it behaves correctly Sep 13 16:55:58 both are correct Sep 13 16:56:09 no particular behaviour is required if there is an error Sep 13 16:56:15 other than reporting the error Sep 13 16:56:20 and it did that Sep 13 16:56:39 is it normal that it does produce an empty file ? Sep 13 16:56:51 that is irrelevant Sep 13 16:57:00 there was an error so you can't depend on anything Sep 13 16:57:27 a file filled with a gigabyte of profanities would be ok too Sep 13 16:59:09 or with chocolate Sep 13 16:59:25 that depends on what is the preprocessor is expected to do when such an error occurs. where can you read that the result is undefined ? Sep 13 16:59:35 <_av500_> the c standard Sep 13 17:00:16 it is not expected to do ANYTHING AT ALL if there's an error Sep 13 17:03:04 I recall seeing a patch for soemthing on usb to fix the port haning after a certain length of time Sep 13 17:03:14 does this ssound familiar? Sep 13 17:04:04 <_av500_> yes, it s called a reboot Sep 13 17:04:23 <_av500_> Crofton: have you been drinking in meetings again? Sep 13 17:04:37 not until tomorrow Sep 13 17:04:54 have you been in a drinking meeting again? Sep 13 17:05:59 shhhh, a spy Sep 13 17:06:53 <_av500_> Crofton: musb or ehci? Sep 13 17:07:00 <_av500_> or southern comfort? Sep 13 17:07:09 hmm Sep 13 17:07:40 says OTG, so I assum eMUSB Sep 13 17:07:49 <_av500_> keep the bottle Sep 13 17:08:15 Crofton: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kf57EMjOl2Q/UFEKEPtjvSI/AAAAAAAACEA/MvzAPGHhLOY/s1024/ Sep 13 17:08:25 in case you missed it last night Sep 13 17:09:01 OK so : the latest code sourcery does not behave like arm2009q1. I have a case where the pre-processor produces an empty file. That's not an error from the toolchain. thanks Sep 13 17:09:12 awesome Sep 13 17:09:31 <_av500_> mru: is it lightning cable ready? Sep 13 17:09:34 I am tryign to work out what that does Sep 13 17:10:21 bizulk: do you have a case where it does something unexpected WITHOUT reporting an error message? Sep 13 17:11:01 <_av500_> mru: isnt that normal gcc behaviour? Sep 13 17:11:18 mru: no :) my goal is to compile libpng and other stuff with this code sourcery Sep 13 17:11:33 clearly you are doing something wrong Sep 13 17:11:50 me ? Sep 13 17:11:50 fix whatever is causing that error in the first place Sep 13 17:11:53 yes, you Sep 13 17:12:33 I did say in may not that I used CPPFLAGS to get rid of the fatal error and it works now Sep 13 17:12:47 woot first slot :) Sep 13 17:13:19 mranostay, we are the alpha and the omega Sep 13 17:13:37 hey, I open up lwn, and who's ugly mug do I see? Sep 13 17:14:09 so no one recalls seeing a patch to fix mus bhang/stall in the last couple of weeks Sep 13 17:14:29 <_av500_> Crofton: I am seeing musb patches for 3 years now Sep 13 17:14:35 heh Sep 13 17:14:42 <_av500_> its true Sep 13 17:14:50 <_av500_> Russ: who's? Sep 13 17:14:55 <_av500_> im on 1G Sep 13 17:14:58 yeah, I just have a memory of one from the past couple of weeks that matches something I saw in a support email Sep 13 17:15:15 I ralize I may ave an issu ewith my matching algorithm Sep 13 17:15:34 <_av500_> was it labeled "make MUSB finally work"? Sep 13 17:15:38 <_av500_> if not ignore it Sep 13 17:16:21 totally MUSB'ed? Sep 13 17:18:35 aha, prpplague is enjoying new fame on lwn Sep 13 17:18:41 additional fame? Sep 13 17:18:51 * _av500_ cacnels subscription Sep 13 17:19:05 "famous irc people" as jkridner put it ;) Sep 13 17:19:27 _av500_, the plague Sep 13 17:20:03 did I? man, I entertain myself. Sep 13 17:20:34 jkridner__, your ELC-.us video has you making that comment as the camera pans by mranostay ;) Sep 13 17:20:49 hehe Sep 13 17:21:10 * _av500_ logs the chat to replay tomorrow Sep 13 17:21:24 you're doing the rah rah TI talk and slipped that in before going back to the evangelism piece Sep 13 17:21:38 good stuff Sep 13 17:23:25 jkridner__: your stache demo was a big hit Sep 13 17:23:32 cool. Sep 13 17:23:40 any pics of the event? Sep 13 17:24:20 see my g+ Sep 13 17:24:24 cathy has more Sep 13 17:26:14 tomorrow I'll bring the camera cape Sep 13 17:26:37 jkridner__: you were CC'd on the QL update, weren't you? Sep 13 17:26:50 I don't see it. Sep 13 17:27:01 any chance they fixed it to work with the stache demo app? Sep 13 17:27:13 no word on that Sep 13 17:27:28 I need to make the demo wearable by Monday somehow. Sep 13 17:27:32 but they found that 100MHz gpmc is flaky, so they are dropping to 50MHz Sep 13 17:27:41 k. Sep 13 17:27:49 which needs a new spin of the chip Sep 13 17:28:04 * koen doesn't have the email ready to forward, sorry Sep 13 17:29:11 koen: I stuck the chip in a centrifuge, but it didn't help Sep 13 17:34:59 mdp: hehe Sep 13 17:35:30 prpplague: that picture is photoshopped Sep 13 17:35:44 prpplague: (the lwn one) Sep 13 17:36:10 koen: i did not noticed any additional hair added.... Sep 13 17:36:13 the shirt isn't bright enough Sep 13 17:36:20 and there's no spock Sep 13 17:36:38 they should have added a really incredible handlebar stache though Sep 13 17:36:53 maybe for prpplague-NG Sep 13 17:37:20 hmmm Sep 13 17:37:26 next demo: spock app Sep 13 17:37:32 please do Sep 13 17:37:35 does body detection and adds spock in the background Sep 13 17:38:21 fascinating Sep 13 17:38:27 koen: hehe Sep 13 17:38:35 koen: i specifically wore that shirt for you Sep 13 17:38:53 koen: i'm going for new bright colored shirts on saturday Sep 13 17:39:17 "save a prpplague, burn down a redshirt store" Sep 13 17:39:29 hehe Sep 13 17:39:47 save a cow, eat a vegetarian Sep 13 17:39:56 hmm Sep 13 17:40:09 but cows are vegetarian Sep 13 17:40:26 vegetarians rather, makes a difference Sep 13 17:40:48 <_av500_> +1 Sep 13 17:42:50 <_av500_> irc lags at 300km/h Sep 13 17:44:13 _av500_, holy crap, with a ping time of 1.2s, and a lag speed of 300km/h, you are only 42 meters away! Sep 13 17:44:34 er, 50 meters, on the dot Sep 13 17:44:51 feature request: tool chain that generates a gigabyte of profanties on errors. Sep 13 17:45:06 constraint: must behave properly when run in parallel :D Sep 13 17:45:19 ds2, have you tried xilinx's tools? Sep 13 17:45:21 <_av500_> Russ: don't meter me, you imperial son Sep 13 17:45:34 Russ: yes. :D Sep 13 17:45:49 they generate about a gigabyte of errors and warnings on every compile Sep 13 17:46:18 <_av500_> ds2: can the profanities be user uttered? Sep 13 17:46:21 but they are not profanities as requested. Sep 13 17:46:31 yes, please. Sep 13 17:51:01 damn E-ELC schedule page doesn't let you search it Sep 13 17:51:09 at least in Chrome Sep 13 17:51:19 what days are E-ELC? Sep 13 17:52:46 ds2: mon,tue, wed Sep 13 17:52:50 ds2: 5-7 Sep 13 17:53:02 as in next week? Sep 13 17:53:07 november Sep 13 17:53:14 Oh NOV Sep 13 17:53:21 thanks Sep 13 17:53:22 mranostay: yea, and you have to watch it in chromo, sometimes not all the sessions show up Sep 13 17:54:06 koen: i think the schedule should be updated with the changes for your presentation and david's Sep 13 18:00:36 prpplague, koen: that reminds me, have you booked your trolls? Sep 13 18:01:18 mru: i haven't gotten any trolls to commit to being present as of yet Sep 13 18:03:27 koen: who posted pics from the event on G+? I don't see anything on your stream. Sep 13 18:03:36 denix: ping Sep 13 18:03:49 jkridner__: people even commented on them :) Sep 13 18:03:51 oh, wait. Sep 13 18:04:13 hmm... only shows up when I look directly at your streams rather than looking at the stream of who I am 'following'. Sep 13 18:04:22 G+ must have been filtering most of your posts out. Sep 13 18:04:26 * mru WTFs at hotel reservation form Sep 13 18:04:32 jkridner__: pong Sep 13 18:04:36 is koen out? Sep 13 18:04:46 mru: no kidding Sep 13 18:04:57 mru: i have to get that done in the next day or so as well Sep 13 18:04:59 denix: at home now, but at conference again tomorrow Sep 13 18:13:26 koen: denix and I had a discussion with fcooper today about recipes in meta-ti... Sep 13 18:13:59 ah yes Sep 13 18:14:02 the rough result was that we agreed to try to make all of the recipes depend only on oe-core in order to parse, if I understand correctly. Sep 13 18:14:06 I've seen the efforts to "fix" meta-ti Sep 13 18:14:26 where "fix" means something the dictionary doesn't agree with Sep 13 18:14:41 move this discussion to the mailing list Sep 13 18:14:51 I think we've got it on a bit more realistic trajectory. Sep 13 18:14:52 and start posting actual patches for review Sep 13 18:15:06 I've made myself clear in the last mail I sent Sep 13 18:15:19 just fucking do something and stick with it Sep 13 18:15:29 k, but I think the patches would currently remove the cloud9 image recipes, unless we can give denix another suggestion. Sep 13 18:15:42 huh? Sep 13 18:16:18 denix: did I speak out of turn or incorrectly? I often don't know enough to speak intelligently on meta-ti. Sep 13 18:16:45 what kind of suggestion you want to give? Sep 13 18:20:05 meh. guess the answer is to submit a patch to the mailing list removing those recipes and a clear reason *why* defining that all recipes in meta-ti should be parsable with only oe-core? Sep 13 18:20:19 or, whatever the rule is that I probably don't understand. Sep 13 18:21:04 20:14 < koen> move this discussion to the mailing list Sep 13 18:22:14 koen: the whole point of this effort here on irc was to agree on something mutually acceptable Sep 13 18:23:16 at this point jkridner__ and I are between a rock and a hard place Sep 13 18:23:19 <_av500_> mru: venue hotel? Sep 13 18:23:29 yes Sep 13 18:23:35 <_av500_> not me Sep 13 18:23:40 <_av500_> staying budget this year Sep 13 18:23:56 someone else is paying my bills Sep 13 18:24:04 <_av500_> unless you dont snore :) Sep 13 18:24:42 besides, euros aren't worth much these days Sep 13 18:24:58 <_av500_> right Sep 13 18:25:08 <_av500_> still im paid in them Sep 13 18:25:25 sucks to be you then :) Sep 13 18:25:49 <_av500_> true Sep 13 18:25:55 <_av500_> or rather trEU Sep 13 18:26:09 koen: in other words, we are trying to avoid radical solutions or sudden moves. previous discussions on the list didn't end well... Sep 13 18:26:40 I thought I was pretty clear in my last mail Sep 13 18:26:52 I'm tired of being jerked around Sep 13 18:27:28 and getting off-list mails from TI people about it all Sep 13 18:31:10 mru: are you paid in sterlings? Sep 13 18:31:36 mostly Sep 13 18:31:52 isn't being between a rock and a hard place helping to embed things? :D Sep 13 18:35:11 koen: indeed, you were pretty clear in all your emails by giving an ultimatum Sep 13 18:38:19 koen: as of jerking around - I feel the same, as I'm being jerked around Sep 13 18:43:14 koen: the thing is jkridner__ and I are the last two people willing to find a compromise and "collaborate" together... Sep 13 18:45:00 jkridner__: do you have to say anything else? Sep 13 18:45:13 denix: bring that number down to one, and you'll have free rein Sep 13 18:45:24 nah, I think the next step is to send the patch to remove the recipes and get the feedback. Sep 13 18:46:12 jkridner__: I know the feedback, I've heard it many times... Sep 13 18:46:50 is there an e-mail thread I should search for so that I know it when I see it? Sep 13 18:47:09 Can't meta-beagle or what ever you want to call it be created first? Its less about removing something and more about finding a proper "home" for it? Sep 13 18:48:36 <_av500_> /me knows TI likes meta-level fixes Sep 13 18:49:57 and here we go... replace the scalpel with a sword... Sep 13 18:50:20 battle axes ftw Sep 13 18:50:21 no wonder we get comments like the one from _av500_ Sep 13 18:50:43 a dull adze Sep 13 18:52:18 * _av500_ remembers meta-genies granting meta-wishes Sep 13 18:52:28 <_av500_> in yonder book Sep 13 18:52:33 GEB? Sep 13 18:52:44 <_av500_> the very same Sep 13 18:54:12 I don't see how moving it is worse then simply "deleting" it. But if it is then I am fine with your original plan. Sep 13 18:56:26 delete the cloud, let the sunshine in Sep 13 19:26:47 meta-ti has to parse when you against oe-core only Sep 13 19:26:56 this should not even be a discussion point Sep 13 19:27:08 you build Sep 13 19:27:55 Crofton: there are multiple ways to accomplish that Sep 13 19:28:13 let me add, without masking stuff off Sep 13 19:28:36 Crofton: blindly deleting recipes without a grace period or movement plan is not the right way Sep 13 19:29:11 koen, this pain has been around for a long time Sep 13 19:29:17 solve the problem ASAP Sep 13 19:29:22 serisouly Sep 13 19:29:30 Crofton: no argument there Sep 13 19:29:34 endless debates over who does what to whom are pointless Sep 13 19:29:38 Crofton: see my last mail on the subject Sep 13 19:29:49 * Crofton is way behind on emails Sep 13 19:29:52 * koen zzz now Sep 13 19:30:01 my day job is keeping me really busy Sep 13 19:30:08 Crofton: summary: fucking do something and stick with it Sep 13 19:30:22 but with less expletives Sep 13 19:30:24 yeah, I forget, I am in CA now, so all of .eu is asleep when I get up to speed Sep 13 19:30:28 heh Sep 13 19:30:32 sleep Sep 13 19:30:36 * koen really zzz now Sep 13 19:31:02 * XorA didnt expect a handbag fight on #beagle Sep 13 19:37:41 Crofton: SF Bay area? Sep 13 19:38:10 yah Sep 13 19:38:29 * Crofton knows better than to fight XorA Sep 13 19:40:56 * XorA is a peace loving pacifist Sep 13 19:42:53 as opposed to a peace hating pacifist ? Sep 13 19:45:33 never bring a loving pacifist to a hate fight Sep 13 19:48:30 mranostay: did you book flights yet? Sep 13 19:50:42 no Sep 13 19:52:57 mranostay, see linky-poo to test image on other channel, btw Sep 13 19:53:39 mranostay, I'm still pending some ack from my employer on travel ;) Sep 13 20:00:16 you don't talk about the other channel on this channel! Sep 13 20:00:42 now i have to wack everyone here :P Sep 13 20:05:04 * mdp breaks the first rule of other channel club Sep 13 20:10:47 * mranostay starts with the trolls Sep 13 20:10:50 * mranostay wacks mru Sep 13 20:10:58 * mranostay wacks av500 :) Sep 13 20:12:44 whack-a-troll? Sep 13 20:52:17 * Crofton has a flight Sep 13 20:52:29 what are peoples thoughts on hotels Sep 13 21:11:08 Crofton: carry your bedbug spray. Sep 13 21:19:06 thoughts on hotels? I think they definitely beat sleeping in the park Sep 13 21:33:56 anyone have USB 3G modem working on beagle? Sep 13 21:55:19 probably should book that this weekend Sep 13 21:55:40 130 euros is a bit much Sep 13 21:56:48 <_av500_> mranostay: i got 3 nights for 145 Sep 13 21:56:51 <_av500_> total Sep 13 21:57:32 where? Sep 13 21:57:34 * linuxjacques ' ears perk up. Sep 13 21:57:35 nearby? Sep 13 21:57:46 <_av500_> Crofton: some kind of students hotel Sep 13 21:57:52 <_av500_> but then ill just sleep there Sep 13 21:57:53 hmm Sep 13 21:58:04 full of riff raff :) Sep 13 21:58:06 <_av500_> found via hrs.de Sep 13 21:58:10 for elce? Sep 13 21:58:13 <_av500_> yes Sep 13 21:58:19 _av500_: hostel? Sep 13 21:58:25 <_av500_> no Sep 13 21:58:29 <_av500_> no idea Sep 13 21:58:36 ahh Sep 13 21:58:37 <_av500_> like a cheap hotel for students or so Sep 13 21:58:46 mru: did you get your reservations done? Sep 13 21:58:48 <_av500_> ill just sleep there Sep 13 21:58:56 mru: plan to do mine tomorrow Sep 13 21:59:05 <_av500_> eye an occasional studenteee if present Sep 13 21:59:10 haven't done it yet Sep 13 22:00:19 <_av500_> http://www.hrs.de/web3/showPage.do?page=showHotelData&activity=photo&hotelnumber=453497 Sep 13 22:00:23 <_av500_> there Sep 13 22:00:44 I was planning to go with the official hotel Sep 13 22:00:50 <_av500_> built in 2007, cant have that many germs.... Sep 13 22:01:09 mru: as am i, but i hate the way they have the reservations for the special pricing Sep 13 22:01:42 <_av500_> send a word doc Sep 13 22:01:43 you mean having to FAX? Sep 13 22:01:45 <_av500_> pathetic Sep 13 22:01:51 insane Sep 13 22:01:56 indeed. Sep 13 22:02:06 they had that scheme in hong kong Sep 13 22:02:16 I figured it was an asian thing Sep 13 22:02:24 then again, spain used to be ruled by arabs Sep 13 22:02:34 yeah, I need to figure out how to fax Sep 13 22:02:41 email not ok? Sep 13 22:02:46 we should all bunk in the same hostel room :P Sep 13 22:02:53 <_av500_> totally Sep 13 22:03:05 <_av500_> havea 25h/day drug party Sep 13 22:03:16 so much drugs it adds an hour Sep 13 22:03:31 <_av500_> droogs on drugs Sep 13 22:03:41 * mranostay picures Spanish prisons as sucking Sep 13 22:04:21 mranostay: a place one might disappear in? Sep 13 22:04:29 <_av500_> mranostay: ask tom hanks Sep 13 22:04:35 <_av500_> ah no, that was france Sep 13 22:05:32 <_av500_> ah no, that was leonardo Sep 13 22:05:52 * _av500_ unsays everything Sep 13 22:05:57 * _av500_ blames the beer Sep 13 22:07:02 btw, I opened a bottle of http://www.brewdog.com/product/barrel-aged-77-lager Sep 13 22:07:19 curious brew Sep 13 22:07:34 alcoholhism is rash in this channel :) Sep 13 22:07:58 hey, we can quit at any time, we just don't give a rats ass about quitting Sep 13 22:08:29 also DTs suck :P Sep 13 22:08:35 both DTs :P Sep 13 22:08:39 * mranostay ducks Sep 13 22:08:43 prpplague: well spoken Sep 13 22:09:42 come on, it's thursday.. that's practically weekend Sep 13 22:10:03 there are like 2 non drinking days in the week Sep 13 22:10:06 mru: the hotel won't let you book online for those days :( Sep 13 22:10:16 mru: guess i'll need to try the paper method Sep 13 22:10:18 :( Sep 13 22:10:38 <_av500_> prpplague: try paper, if that fails, try rock or scissors Sep 13 22:10:41 "To reserve your room, please download and fill out the reservation form and fax or email it back to the hotel" Sep 13 22:10:49 mru: er no Sep 13 22:10:55 <_av500_> errno? Sep 13 22:11:06 _av500_: if those also fail, try lizard or spock Sep 13 22:11:10 why would i in 2012 book a hotel via fax? Sep 13 22:11:15 mru: i have some errands to run this evening, maybe try it this even to see if i can get a reservation Sep 13 22:11:20 <_av500_> mranostay: coz it says so! Sep 13 22:11:27 crofton I could fax for you Sep 13 22:11:38 <_av500_> lets all fax for Crofton Sep 13 22:11:38 is there any hotels next door? Sep 13 22:11:48 <_av500_> mranostay: is there any google? :) Sep 13 22:11:58 * mranostay stabs _av500_ Sep 13 22:12:07 <_av500_> elenril!!! Sep 13 22:12:08 crofton or there are some free to use fax services in de with commercials Sep 13 22:12:18 <_av500_> woglinde: he isa grown up boy Sep 13 22:12:29 <_av500_> he can always fax from an URSP Sep 13 22:12:34 <_av500_> USRP Sep 13 22:12:37 <_av500_> PRUS Sep 13 22:12:39 <_av500_> URPS Sep 13 22:12:42 <_av500_> that sdr thing Sep 13 22:12:55 haha Sep 13 22:12:57 USPS? Sep 13 22:13:02 <_av500_> PUPS Sep 13 22:13:12 USSR? Sep 13 22:13:21 <_av500_> le RUSS Sep 13 22:15:44 in soviet russia fax machine jams you Sep 13 22:16:34 <_av500_> fax machines you Sep 13 22:16:59 machine faxes you Sep 13 22:17:43 hm 100 flight 150 for conference 170 hostel Sep 13 22:19:32 <_av500_> woglinde: you fly cheap Sep 13 22:20:47 perhaps a cessna Sep 13 22:21:52 av500 sure we have this unfinished and luxury and expensive airport Sep 13 22:22:10 easyjet Sep 13 22:22:22 <_av500_> yeah Sep 13 22:22:25 <_av500_> no easyjset for me Sep 13 22:22:33 av500 but I am not sure really going Sep 13 22:23:15 <_av500_> you can meet all the cool people Sep 13 22:23:20 <_av500_> ...and the trolls from #beagle Sep 13 22:23:39 av500 sure I meat them last year Sep 13 22:23:46 args Sep 13 22:23:50 <_av500_> argv Sep 13 22:28:35 cool people? Sep 13 22:28:51 the famous irc people Sep 13 22:28:56 hehe Sep 13 22:31:57 People are famous on IRC? Sep 13 22:32:14 well, trolls Sep 13 22:33:47 sure Sep 13 22:33:59 famous Sep 13 22:34:07 what trolls? there are no stinkin trolls Sep 13 22:34:10 good nite Sep 13 22:35:47 famous trolls Sep 13 22:35:55 Are the trolls that live under the bridge Sep 13 23:00:18 koen: do you have any plans to refresh the BeagleBoard image to be closer to the BeagleBone image any time soon? I'm giving the Cloud9-IDE image a try. Sep 13 23:13:47 mru: i'm barely a troll Sep 13 23:14:08 apprentice troll Sep 13 23:14:26 half the pay? :) Sep 13 23:15:31 half the beer Sep 13 23:18:33 Hi, has anyone managed to get the miniwifi RTl8192cu device that is sold along with BeagleBoard running? Sep 13 23:19:11 I followed the tutorial, installed the drivers, my board recognizes it, but no wireless connection shows up when I run ifconfig -a. Sep 13 23:27:19 jkridner__, koen better be asleep Sep 13 23:27:32 uh oh... Sep 13 23:27:33 that bad? Sep 13 23:27:49 I assume you mean my meta-ti e-mail? Sep 13 23:28:01 he went to bed a while back Sep 13 23:28:08 I don't understand why everyone is so bent out of shape on that thread. Sep 13 23:28:08 so he will not see it Sep 13 23:28:26 I do not either Sep 13 23:28:28 oh, are you just meaning my post above? Sep 13 23:28:36 meta-ti needs to build against oe-core Sep 13 23:28:39 meh, it was just a shot. Sep 13 23:28:50 and only oe-core, no? Sep 13 23:29:15 Did anyone manage to get this wifi adapter running on beagleboard? http://www.adafruit.com/products/814 Sep 13 23:29:17 should work with lots of other layers too, but I think building should happen with nothing but those two layers. Sep 13 23:29:27 beagleboard or beaglebone? Sep 13 23:29:30 which distro? Sep 13 23:29:52 BeagleBone, Angstrom Sep 13 23:30:01 Need more specific info? Sep 13 23:30:04 I've successfully followed the instructions at http://learn.adafruit.com/beaglebone/wifi Sep 13 23:30:33 I did the same thing, but the wlan never showed up in ifconfig -a Sep 13 23:30:48 dmesg shows the USB adapter recognized, though. Sep 13 23:30:49 Weird Sep 13 23:31:28 does dmesg show any errors? Sep 13 23:32:11 No, and it shows this, but this is for enthernet via cable: PHY: 0:00 - Link is Up - 100/Full, so that's not relevant, I think. Sep 13 23:32:32 I tried to unplug the ethernet cable, too - didn't help Sep 13 23:32:46 Maybe I need to manually activate the wlan? Sep 13 23:34:21 Some people say they had to unplug their ethernet cable first, but that didn't solve the problem for me. Sep 13 23:37:23 To be very specific - this is the first screen that I didn't see on my computer after following the steps: http://learn.adafruit.com/assets/123 Sep 13 23:37:39 This stuff is missing in my dmesg Sep 14 00:41:19 mru: well, doc converted to odt, edited, printed, signed, scanned, saved as jpg, converted to pdf, and emailed Sep 14 00:41:34 mru: lets see if they actually get me a reservation now... Sep 14 01:15:04 anybody from the american continent? Sep 14 01:34:11 haha, which one? Sep 14 01:34:18