**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 29 03:00:01 2012 Oct 29 03:39:03 Well I've had enough fun for one night Oct 29 03:39:45 the external abort on non-linefetch went away when I moved to a different I/O pin Oct 29 03:41:21 alan_o: "Close enough" :) Oct 29 03:43:12 I guess it's going to have to be Oct 29 03:43:18 as long as it works, I don't care what pin it's in Oct 29 03:44:04 alan_o: a younger me would spend all night finding why the other pin didn't work :) Oct 29 03:44:19 Well, I already did that Oct 29 03:44:30 the decided I have my own problems :) Oct 29 03:45:27 ok I'm out of here Oct 29 06:00:14 Hello Oct 29 06:09:47 heh Oct 29 06:13:25 hah Oct 29 06:14:38 emeb_mac: how original Oct 29 06:15:19 mranostay: looking for originality? you're in the wrong place dude. Oct 29 06:21:05 i am? :) Oct 29 06:28:55 emeb_mac: how goes the FPGA cape? Oct 29 06:29:24 not much going on that front. Oct 29 06:29:40 do you know much about I2C on bbone? Oct 29 06:31:29 emeb_mac: i've used it does that count? Oct 29 06:31:40 just for weather cape and i2c id eeprom Oct 29 06:31:53 maybe. which bus did you use? Oct 29 06:32:23 I need I2C2, but that seems to be dedicated to the id eeproms. Oct 29 06:32:47 emeb_mac: i don't know about dedicated Oct 29 06:32:55 wondering if it can also be used for other things, but it's not in in /dev Oct 29 06:33:00 just don't use the addresses for the eeproms Oct 29 06:33:16 aka 0x54-0x57 Oct 29 06:33:22 duh. :) Oct 29 06:34:04 i think several capes use i2c2 exclusively Oct 29 06:34:18 cool Oct 29 06:34:41 i know the weather cape does Oct 29 06:35:13 just need to enable userspace access to it in the boardfile? Oct 29 06:35:40 boardfile? aren't you up to DT now? :) Oct 29 06:36:19 see - I'm way behind. Oct 29 06:36:26 what's DT? Oct 29 06:36:36 device tree, baby Oct 29 06:36:55 and how does that work? Oct 29 06:38:25 I'm running the latest angstrom demo image and i2c2 doesn't show up Oct 29 06:39:00 in /dev. Presumably DT provides some way to activate devices? Oct 29 06:39:40 emeb_mac: ah i2cdetect -r 3? Oct 29 06:40:00 3 is 2 in this case. don't know why Oct 29 06:40:11 doesn't start from index 0 Oct 29 06:40:41 so you just try to access a device and the kernel automatically enables it if it's not there yet? Oct 29 06:43:12 come again? for DT? Oct 29 06:45:00 since the bus I need to access doesn't show up in /dev I'd assumed it wasn't enabled. Oct 29 06:45:29 DT works by creating chaos Oct 29 06:45:32 but you're saying to just go ahead and run i2cdetect on it anyway. Oct 29 06:45:41 with enough energy, you can turn that entropy into something Oct 29 06:46:27 so presumably DT must intercept accesses to devices that _could_ be, and turn them on if they're not already. Oct 29 06:46:30 ??? Oct 29 06:46:33 no Oct 29 06:46:45 DT specifies what is available Oct 29 06:46:51 no intercept. Oct 29 06:47:33 OK. I need to do some research. Oct 29 06:47:52 it more or less replaces your board file Oct 29 06:47:54 The landscape has shifted since the last time I looked at this stuff and I'm back in n00b territory. Oct 29 06:47:57 except for Capebus! Oct 29 06:48:03 it will change the world! Oct 29 06:48:19 mranostay: so here's a dumb question: Oct 29 06:48:42 how do you initially write the contents of the ID eeprom that capebus uses? Oct 29 06:48:42 * mranostay gets bat ready Oct 29 06:48:55 since i2c2 isn't in /dev... Oct 29 06:48:58 you get a serial EEPROM programmer ;) Oct 29 06:49:04 emeb_mac: in production or manually? Oct 29 06:49:13 manually for a proto board. Oct 29 06:49:20 you enable the i2c2 bus in DT Oct 29 06:49:27 OK Oct 29 06:49:31 or in the board file Oct 29 06:50:04 ideally you want to a TP on the WP pin Oct 29 06:50:27 just program it off board Oct 29 06:50:28 then solder Oct 29 06:50:38 (if you insist on using the eeprom) Oct 29 06:50:47 you pull up with er a 10k ohm resistor and pull test pin to ground to write Oct 29 06:51:06 ds2: yeah that is a bit much for the average soul :) Oct 29 06:51:23 mranostay: can you say "BUS pirate"? Oct 29 06:51:53 btw i hate that name for a product :) Oct 29 06:52:00 :) Oct 29 06:52:45 or you leave wp nc and don't worry about it. Oct 29 06:52:56 since it's got a pulldown built-in. Oct 29 06:53:06 well until someone wants to write to it :) Oct 29 06:53:20 never trust the users i say :) Oct 29 06:53:55 <_av500_> never trust anybody Oct 29 06:53:58 let 'em write. They have to learn not to screw with things they don't understand. Oct 29 06:54:53 as my dad says: "every time you build in idiot-proofing, the world invents a smarter idiot" Oct 29 06:55:59 anyway - thanks for the advice. I'll give that a try and see what happens. Oct 29 06:56:15 Oh - will that work for SPI bus 0 too? Oct 29 06:56:50 what will? Oct 29 06:57:41 just accessing the device that ought to be there and hoping DT will turn it on automagically. Oct 29 07:00:31 emeb_mac: you need to enable the bus in the DT Oct 29 07:00:55 it is a pin control cluster**** Oct 29 07:01:07 * mranostay has a slide or two on this Oct 29 07:01:15 and that can be done from userspace? Oct 29 07:01:21 nope Oct 29 07:01:27 dang Oct 29 07:01:53 well with omap_pinmux maybe. but that is being stepped away from Oct 29 07:01:59 good Oct 29 07:02:15 so that's a boardfile thing, or a u-boot thing? Oct 29 07:02:32 that is userspace thing Oct 29 07:02:42 sysfs entries Oct 29 07:03:02 but but you just said nope to userspace above? Oct 29 07:03:19 depends on the kernel tree you pick Oct 29 07:03:26 yay Oct 29 07:03:31 3.2.28? Oct 29 07:03:40 i think the official beaglebone one is the boardfile stuff Oct 29 07:03:43 yes Oct 29 07:04:07 i'm using the Koen's unofficial tree Oct 29 07:04:13 so tweaky / recompiley for me Oct 29 07:05:22 unless I want to use Koen's Oct 29 07:05:43 and then it's still recompiley (and probably tweaky too) Oct 29 07:05:56 sleepy time for me Oct 29 07:06:38 thanks. looks like I've got some work to do. Oct 29 07:07:19 emeb_mac: is this your new FPGA board? Oct 29 07:07:44 ds2: yeah Oct 29 07:07:58 "new" being a somewhat loose term in this case. Oct 29 07:08:22 since I designed it almost a year ago but didn't get around to building it until a few weeks back. Oct 29 07:10:01 emeb_mac: what these won't pay the rent?!? :P Oct 29 07:11:31 mranostay: who knows. Right now it's just scratching an itch. No predictions on how much demand there'll be. Oct 29 07:14:12 heh Oct 29 07:14:18 sounds like my sensor board Oct 29 07:15:08 probably. Oct 29 07:15:35 or geiger cape :) Oct 29 07:15:36 there's a lot of fun application-specific stuff one could do with bbone Oct 29 07:16:09 question is if any of them have relevance outside a small circle of folks. Oct 29 07:16:34 the answer is usually no :) Oct 29 07:16:44 *nod* Oct 29 07:17:11 so we build fun little personal projects, write them up and count it as experience. Oct 29 07:18:30 that is my plan :) Oct 29 07:19:33 I'm often amused by some folks who get on IRC with big plans to "take over the world" with some pet project. Oct 29 07:20:00 Met a lot of people like that off IRC too I suppose... Oct 29 07:21:16 heh that have been me at 16 :P Oct 29 07:21:32 so you're the brain Oct 29 07:21:44 it's a fun phase to go through. Some don't seem to get over it though. Oct 29 07:24:00 ds2: who is pinky? Oct 29 07:25:22 nitol. zzzzzz Oct 29 10:14:58 * av500 came to work and found a ELC-E welcome package on his desk Oct 29 10:15:08 SIM card, metro tickets, maps and vouchers Oct 29 10:24:34 av500: aha? Oct 29 10:26:26 whoa. Oct 29 10:26:39 i just found $SO including a travel guide. Oct 29 10:28:16 av500: being a speaker this year? ;) Oct 29 10:28:42 "trolling for runaways/advanced ircers" Oct 29 10:30:43 LetoThe2nd: will that be a plenary discussion together with mru? Oct 29 10:31:15 dm8tbr: i thought more of a cage fight. not sure if psychological or physical. Oct 29 10:31:34 let's hope they didn't send this stuff to everyone. there's a huge pile of people at LCE12/UDS that will go directly to ELCE... Oct 29 10:31:46 ... Oct 29 10:33:39 dm8tbr: you at UDS?!? Oct 29 10:34:22 LetoThe2nd: I'm at LCE. UDS is more of collateral damage. Oct 29 10:35:01 ah Oct 29 10:38:56 no, coworker was in BCN last week :) Oct 29 10:39:03 I always send people to scout ahead Oct 29 10:44:17 :D Oct 29 10:44:22 how convenient Oct 29 10:44:43 very Oct 29 10:44:55 * mru sends dm8tbr to bcn a day in advance Oct 29 10:45:00 :> Oct 29 10:45:26 * dm8tbr will camp out with the occupy movement it seems... (still no hotel confirmation) Oct 29 10:46:44 * LetoThe2nd hastes to print out the hotel confirmation. Oct 29 13:10:05 * av500 needs to buy something for €5 on amazon Oct 29 13:14:11 av500: how about a pack of those bic-pens-for-her? or a three-wolf-moon-t-shirt Oct 29 13:14:58 \o/ looks like I'll get a room in fira after all Oct 29 13:15:31 \o/ Oct 29 13:16:14 \o/ Oct 29 13:17:34 /o\ Oct 29 13:18:04 \m/ O \o/ Oct 29 13:18:11 \m/ O \m/ Oct 29 13:18:25 \\\ooo/// Oct 29 13:18:38 mru: ist that a bathtub with bubble foam?!? Oct 29 13:18:45 heh Oct 29 13:20:52 no, he is shaking wildly left/right and that is motion blur Oct 29 13:21:18 LetoThe2nd: no, that's this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=c4SJ0xR2_bQ#t=105s Oct 29 13:21:32 ah. Oct 29 13:21:36 nih! Oct 29 13:21:47 av500, need one for high motion low bitrate macroblocking artifacts Oct 29 13:22:18 [\][o[][[o][/]][] Oct 29 13:23:25 hehe Oct 29 13:28:31 hi........... Oct 29 13:30:15 hello Guest18322!!! Oct 29 13:31:29 hi .... mag Oct 29 13:31:35 hi .... mdp Oct 29 13:31:40 hi ..... I give up Oct 29 13:32:13 Guest18322, please state your question! Oct 29 13:32:29 helpdesk:~> _ Oct 29 13:33:36 ls Oct 29 13:34:23 bofh1321.txt bofh1322.txt bofh1322.txt Oct 29 13:34:23 * Guest18322 hello Oct 29 13:34:58 yes, you said that Oct 29 13:36:15 panto, by buried, I meant that I had a couple new reviewers pop in over the weekend with a pile of things to address Oct 29 13:36:37 I will have to do the dance soon Oct 29 13:38:24 Who cross-compile for beagleboard xm? Oct 29 13:40:47 hi. Oct 29 13:42:11 Crofton|work: go say "hi." Oct 29 13:42:11 av500, git://github.com/pantoniou/linux-bbxm.git branch capebus-v2 if you'd like to take a look Oct 29 13:42:21 hello Oct 29 13:42:32 ............... Oct 29 13:42:38 do you know english Oct 29 13:42:41 ? Oct 29 13:42:43 ............ Oct 29 13:42:56 hi friends Oct 29 13:42:58 ? Oct 29 13:43:11 Hi Guest18322 Oct 29 13:43:22 hello Oct 29 13:43:25 hello Oct 29 13:43:30 Hi Guest18322 Oct 29 13:43:32 hello Oct 29 13:43:35 asl? Oct 29 13:43:38 do you know english Oct 29 13:43:41 ? Oct 29 13:43:42 i think i do Oct 29 13:43:49 a tiny wee bit Oct 29 13:43:58 so what's going on Oct 29 13:43:58 my hovercraft is full of eels! Oct 29 13:44:01 * LetoThe2nd facepalms and goes back to spice production. Oct 29 13:44:01 i also know mandarin Oct 29 13:44:07 I'm italian Oct 29 13:44:11 flying cars! Oct 29 13:44:18 from where are you Oct 29 13:44:22 ? Oct 29 13:44:30 i am an indian Oct 29 13:44:31 I like pie Oct 29 13:44:42 from this world we are Oct 29 13:44:50 我的气垫船的鳗鱼! Oct 29 13:44:50 i am not. Oct 29 13:44:56 i know that Oct 29 13:45:03 are you alien Oct 29 13:45:06 my house has beautiful sky and people Oct 29 13:45:24 ok its very nice Oct 29 13:45:28 ........ Oct 29 13:45:29 no... did u come to this channel for the beagle dog breed? Oct 29 13:45:30 dude Oct 29 13:45:39 dont dude me Oct 29 13:45:44 mi casa es su casa Oct 29 13:45:45 bro? Oct 29 13:45:52 cuz i assure u its the right place Oct 29 13:45:53 wazzap??? Oct 29 13:45:55 bruv? Oct 29 13:46:15 do you know all about irc Oct 29 13:46:19 Gues18322 you know english? Oct 29 13:46:31 isnt english the national language of india? Oct 29 13:46:35 yes a litile bit Oct 29 13:46:49 no our national lang is hindi Oct 29 13:47:03 they must have changed it Oct 29 13:47:23 oh.... its not possible Oct 29 13:47:27 Guest18322, don't mind them... we're all a bunch of 12 yos Oct 29 13:47:56 oh i also want to join you. Oct 29 13:48:07 you can start by acting childish Oct 29 13:48:08 do you know hindi? Oct 29 13:48:10 panto, I'm not that mature Oct 29 13:48:20 no clue whatsoever Oct 29 13:48:41 how do you know about irc in this age Oct 29 13:48:43 ? Oct 29 13:48:54 google? Oct 29 13:48:55 duh Oct 29 13:49:00 how many old are you. Oct 29 13:49:00 I skipped a few classes Oct 29 13:49:14 i know the song tunak tunak tun tada da Oct 29 13:49:32 oh its too good Oct 29 13:49:37 hmm, by extrapolating, I get two days off tomorrow and the days after Oct 29 13:49:52 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKfxAUFo7xo saw it here Oct 29 13:49:54 because this smells like FRIDAY a lot! Oct 29 13:50:01 whats you name friend. Oct 29 13:50:05 av500, it's monday Oct 29 13:50:06 \o/ friday! Oct 29 13:50:11 panto, quiet! Oct 29 13:50:12 * panto total killjoy Oct 29 13:50:33 panto: we know where you live Oct 29 13:50:42 what is your groups name Oct 29 13:50:45 dammit Oct 29 13:50:53 slartibartfast Oct 29 13:50:59 oh then tell me Oct 29 13:51:00 Guest18322: rosebud Oct 29 13:51:20 are you realy from italy/ Oct 29 13:51:26 hez like Oct 29 13:51:30 he just lives down the road from u Oct 29 13:51:34 *lying Oct 29 13:51:46 call center him Oct 29 13:52:13 what are you saying actually i am not unederstanding. Oct 29 13:52:20 call center maybe Oct 29 13:52:34 where is your call center Oct 29 13:52:35 ? Oct 29 13:52:39 in india Oct 29 13:52:57 have you came in india Oct 29 13:53:11 riding on the back of an elephant Oct 29 13:53:14 like a boss Oct 29 13:53:28 yes exactly like av500 described Oct 29 13:53:52 do whats your real name Oct 29 13:54:08 raj malhotra Oct 29 13:54:25 raj tum kahana se ho Oct 29 13:54:26 ? Oct 29 13:54:46 what happen Oct 29 13:54:47 ? Oct 29 13:55:22 is there a whole group Oct 29 13:55:32 then where are your group members Oct 29 13:55:32 yes Oct 29 13:55:33 ? Oct 29 13:55:38 we all work in call center Oct 29 13:55:47 in thsi channel Oct 29 13:55:56 outsourced, call center Oct 29 13:55:59 av500 is the manager Oct 29 13:56:00 I dont! Oct 29 13:56:04 yes Oct 29 13:56:08 oh i like it...... Oct 29 13:56:18 his title is: master troll Oct 29 13:56:29 no, Mister Toll! Oct 29 13:56:34 hm. more free spice, anyone? Oct 29 13:56:38 middle manglement Oct 29 13:56:43 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhHeGcXHTmw examples of how we handle custoemrs Oct 29 13:56:48 * dm8tbr takes a deep sniff of LetoThe2nd's spice Oct 29 13:56:48 LetoThe2nd: do you see the need at the moment? Oct 29 13:57:10 LetoThe2nd: bring some more to elce, will you? Oct 29 13:57:24 actually do you know more about irc then please help me to use Oct 29 13:57:25 av500: certainly. aunt irulan also thinks we have a serious spice underconsumption here. Oct 29 13:57:29 i am just a child Oct 29 13:57:38 yes Oct 29 13:57:39 it must flow Oct 29 13:57:40 we know Oct 29 13:58:01 mdp: yeah, the guild people told me that for years. Oct 29 13:58:04 we are tooo Oct 29 13:58:08 thousnads of years.... Oct 29 13:58:12 they were wrong. Oct 29 13:58:15 some make clothes for primark Oct 29 13:58:17 plz tell me some important irc commands Oct 29 13:58:33 dm8tbr: hell, dunkel oder bock? Oct 29 13:59:06 Guest18322: try /leave or /quit Oct 29 13:59:16 Guesst18322 : "/part" Oct 29 13:59:37 are you a hacker Oct 29 13:59:46 arcanescu: why u hate! Oct 29 13:59:50 Guest18322: "/part" best command Oct 29 13:59:58 av500: hate im helping Oct 29 14:00:06 you become a /part of us then! Oct 29 14:00:07 customer is always right Oct 29 14:00:24 koen: ping? Oct 29 14:00:28 arcanescu: one I had customer who *left* Oct 29 14:00:33 alan_o: not now! Oct 29 14:00:47 arcanescu: "keep the customer satisfied" *sing* Oct 29 14:00:48 av500: =p Oct 29 14:00:52 what is ping Oct 29 14:00:58 ? Oct 29 14:00:58 alan_o, please move your conversation to #beagle-monday, thank you Oct 29 14:01:11 ping is accompanied by pong Oct 29 14:01:12 av500: *sigh* I'll come back later...... Oct 29 14:01:17 Guest18322: a hacker thing Oct 29 14:01:43 are you cracker Oct 29 14:01:46 olympic sport Oct 29 14:01:57 yes druggies Oct 29 14:02:07 smoke crack Oct 29 14:02:09 etc Oct 29 14:02:14 do you know usen boult Oct 29 14:02:22 yes hez my pal Oct 29 14:02:30 would you like his address? Oct 29 14:03:21 \o/ Oct 29 14:03:35 sucess Oct 29 14:06:24 alan_o: pong Oct 29 14:06:43 Hey, so I spent some time this weekend getting 3.7 up Oct 29 14:06:50 I'm not all the way there yet. Oct 29 14:07:21 but I had some questions.... First, what toolchain are you using? I failed to get one that would build both the kernel and stock u-boot? Oct 29 14:07:39 I used codesourcery and the latest one from Angstrom (2011.03, iirc) Oct 29 14:07:44 im about to try to boot the beaglebone-3.7rc3 Oct 29 14:08:18 alan_o: angstrom 4.5.4 for kernel, angstrom 4.7.something for u-boot Oct 29 14:09:14 So there must be a place other than here: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ to download from then. Oct 29 14:09:35 they get built as part of the build process :) Oct 29 14:10:30 ok, so you're running what gets built from.... http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Oct 29 14:10:58 exactly Oct 29 14:11:24 I'm going to add the linaro patches to the 4.7 one and see if that will make the kernel boot Oct 29 14:11:36 ok, I'll run that up at some point. I have something working now.... Oct 29 14:11:49 koen: didn't for me so far. need to try again with rc3 Oct 29 14:11:53 ok, so just to confirm, you have the 3.7 kernel working in thumb2_kernel mode? Oct 29 14:12:14 and you're using the configuration in configs/beaglebone ? Oct 29 14:12:26 (relative to your 3.7 github branch) Oct 29 14:13:25 I had to turn off thumb to make it work at all, but that may be compiler difference. mranostay had similar, if I understood right. Oct 29 14:15:24 Also, does cpsw work for you in u-boot vanilla or u-boot angstrom? Oct 29 14:16:46 too many questions at once. overran his buffer Oct 29 14:17:52 koen: back? Oct 29 14:17:55 alan_o: I've been using the configs/beaglebone with linero 4.5.x on 3.7rc1. About to try rc3 Oct 29 14:18:48 georgem: Thanks. Another good data point. So many moving parts..... Oct 29 14:19:19 I think I'm now down to a kernel or dt problem. I think it's dt. Oct 29 14:19:24 I'll try the latest linero 4.7 but last time I tried it didn't boot. Oct 29 14:19:58 There was a problem with dt being generated recently. I had to use an old dtb file. About to see if the one its creating now works. Oct 29 14:20:09 when I try to register for interrupt on GPIO 3_19, I get a stack dump: http://pastebin.com/BzvUyfSC Oct 29 14:20:20 I moved to 1_21 and it doesn't dump Oct 29 14:20:29 but it seems like 3_19 should work. Oct 29 14:21:00 I did some debugging into it and eventually gave up and moved my irq line Oct 29 14:21:48 alan_o: yes Oct 29 14:22:17 so which one was that a yes to :) Oct 29 14:22:47 since you dropped off, not sure what you missed leading up to that..... Oct 29 14:22:59 15:11 < alan_o> ok, I'll run that up at some point. I have something working now.... Oct 29 14:23:04 that's the last bit I caught Oct 29 14:23:30 alan_o: not that gpio numbering is off-by-one again Oct 29 14:23:38 ok, so just to confirm, you have the 3.7 kernel working in thumb2_kernel mode? Oct 29 14:23:39 and you're using the configuration in configs/beaglebone ? Oct 29 14:23:39 (relative to your 3.7 github branch) Oct 29 14:24:10 yes, configs/beaglebone is kept up to date by doing 'cp kernel/.config configs/beaglebone' Oct 29 14:24:31 yes, noticed off-by-one in the dt. I was registering it from a driver though (I brought over my board-alan.c file from previous). Oct 29 14:25:28 I wonder if I just didn't have a compiler that would generate thumb2 properly Oct 29 14:25:53 you can safely disable it, it only makes the kernel 0.5MiB smaller Oct 29 14:26:31 yeah, that's what I ended up doing eventually, but also on a different toolchain. Oct 29 14:26:48 so on u-boot 2012.10, do you have cpsw? Oct 29 14:26:59 I couldn't make mine work Oct 29 14:27:30 but I've reverted back to the old 2011.09-angstrom that does have it working, so the question is really academic. Oct 29 14:28:21 (fyi: the dump from the gpio registration: http://pastebin.com/BzvUyfSC ) Oct 29 14:31:27 alan_o: haven't tried cpsw yet Oct 29 14:31:48 ok, fair enough. You don't get streaming errors about cpsw timeout? Oct 29 14:32:09 haven't noticed them Oct 29 14:32:21 be sure to upgrade both MLO and u-boot.img Oct 29 14:32:33 oh...... didn't upgrade MLO Oct 29 14:32:42 so that's probably it. Oct 29 14:32:53 keesj: good morning! Oct 29 14:33:58 beaglebone 3.7 master booting: http://pastebin.com/FSFvMkqx Oct 29 14:35:17 * alan_o links /bin/sh to /bin/bash Oct 29 14:37:01 hi koen and others! Oct 29 14:46:19 * mru links /bin/bash to bad habits Oct 29 14:46:57 how can i get npm on my bone? Oct 29 14:47:13 mru: hey, I'm follwowing the exact steps man.... Oct 29 14:47:53 one exact step for a man, ... Oct 29 14:48:39 a wiki for humanity Oct 29 14:49:06 but are the steps full duplex? Oct 29 14:49:40 +1 Oct 29 14:50:18 stahl: it's installed by default in the official images since a few months Oct 29 14:52:34 koen: ok thx, seems i have an older version. (Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.05.09.img) Oct 29 14:52:58 hmm. my 4.7 toolchain barfed on something I'e not seen before. http://pastebin.com/fnQtk3dt Oct 29 14:56:15 forgive me for my lack of understanding on oe.... when it says "MACHINE=beagleboard ./oebb.sh bitbake virtual/kernel", where do I look to find out what the other options for the last argument are? Oct 29 14:56:24 there's no file called virtual/kernel... Oct 29 14:56:31 its virtual Oct 29 14:56:42 right Oct 29 14:56:51 and it comes from where.... Oct 29 14:56:55 ether Oct 29 14:57:18 * alan_o heads for the garage to find a can of starting fluid Oct 29 14:58:11 It comes from the Moebius. A place where time and space become a loop. Oct 29 14:58:26 I know I don't have one of those in the garage Oct 29 14:59:05 1st ed deities and demigods details the ethereal plane pretty well...good ref Oct 29 14:59:45 don't they call it wireshark now? Oct 29 15:00:03 poser tech Oct 29 15:00:21 :) Oct 29 15:00:22 wireshark-style Oct 29 15:00:59 alan_o: its define in one of the bitbake files, what "virtual" does exavtly I dont know Oct 29 15:01:02 I always liked the 2nd edition Oct 29 15:01:11 afaikm its something like a meta-target Oct 29 15:02:01 georgem: ;) Oct 29 15:07:48 hmm.... Oct 29 15:08:02 MACHINE=beaglebone ./oebb.sh bitbake devtools/external-toolchain-angstrom Oct 29 15:08:06 I think it's that. Oct 29 15:08:11 mabye I'm wrong Oct 29 15:08:17 but Oct 29 15:08:26 I get Bitbake version 1.16.0 is required and version 1.15.2 was found Oct 29 15:08:32 and it's using the bitbake that's part of OE Oct 29 15:08:46 I don't have bitbake installed, so it can't be any version I have Oct 29 15:10:15 bbl (a few hours) Oct 29 15:40:49 let's play "spot the mru": https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6Pfldk1iy8Y/UI5qDBHWA6I/AAAAAAAADes/bzT14yXdyic/s1858/LCE12Day1PhotoLogo.jpg Oct 29 15:46:14 not "Where's Wal^Wmru"? Oct 29 15:47:25 meh, looks like i missed the group shot Oct 29 15:47:45 dm8tbr: group shot missed you Oct 29 15:48:02 in soviet denmark, yes Oct 29 15:48:12 easier to spot one of my old bosses Oct 29 15:48:30 just tag on g+ so the interwebs takes care of the where's waldoing for me Oct 29 15:49:54 I found th troll Oct 29 15:50:14 yep, there's that troll Oct 29 15:50:27 with gcl towering over him Oct 29 15:51:47 the troll in the Suse t-shirt :) Oct 29 15:51:54 hehe Oct 29 15:52:50 there's Legolas on the far left Oct 29 15:54:02 av500, lol Oct 29 15:55:10 jcm is looking ever so perky Oct 29 15:55:37 jonmasters ? Oct 29 15:55:42 yes Oct 29 15:56:03 dsaxena clearly had a late night, can only manage one arm in the air Oct 29 15:56:13 and hiding in the back Oct 29 15:57:13 hmm, this linaro seems to have gender issues! Oct 29 15:57:51 yep, it's institutionalized...sick and disgusting Oct 29 15:58:08 maybe they need to introduce a quota Oct 29 16:15:29 Hello everybody Oct 29 16:16:50 I has BB-xm RevB and Im using an image of RevC to write to SD card, so my board cannot display on the screen although it booted successfully Oct 29 16:17:14 what wrong with my board? Oct 29 16:17:22 thank you so much Oct 29 16:17:30 post a bootlog and maybe someone can help Oct 29 16:19:26 yes, thurbad, here : http://pastebin.com/68p6iRLT Oct 29 16:20:16 and what screen? Oct 29 16:20:54 nothing on the screen Oct 29 16:21:08 I use an Acer screen Oct 29 16:21:30 Acer AL1715 Oct 29 16:22:53 Is it compatible? Oct 29 16:24:00 can you pastebin the contents of uEnv.txt? Oct 29 16:24:54 yes, plz wait a second Oct 29 16:26:35 thurbad: here is http://pastebin.com/42guCsxd Oct 29 16:30:01 and which monitor? Oct 29 16:30:04 ah Oct 29 16:30:05 said it Oct 29 16:30:24 yes, here http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/monitor/0000/Acer/AL1715/AL1715sp2.shtml Oct 29 16:32:16 question is, does it accept 720p Oct 29 16:32:55 spec. said: Supported Resolutions 1280 x 1024 @75Hz Oct 29 16:33:11 so I think it ok, Oct 29 16:33:38 1280x720 != 1280x1024 Oct 29 16:33:49 yes Oct 29 16:34:28 av500: what should I change the file uEnv to 1280x1024 Oct 29 16:35:50 the hd720 portion Oct 29 16:36:49 assuming it supports 60Hz try 1280x1024-24@60 Oct 29 16:37:02 yes, can u show me exacly word? hd720 -> 1280x1024 ? Oct 29 16:37:06 I new with linux, Oct 29 16:37:21 yes, thanks so much, Oct 29 16:37:24 let me check Oct 29 16:39:03 when I save uEnv file. Line Ending options: Windows or Linux/Unix Oct 29 16:39:36 dunno if it matters, but try linux Oct 29 16:41:41 Nothing changes, thurbad Oct 29 16:41:50 the screen said: no signal Oct 29 16:42:52 are you using a digital in or dsub? Oct 29 16:43:14 DVI Oct 29 16:43:42 I using a HDMI to DVI cable to plug in the board Oct 29 16:43:57 the monitor works ok on my Host Oct 29 16:44:33 my laptop has a hdmi port, and I also connected it with the monitor Oct 29 16:44:52 it works properly Oct 29 16:45:28 Is the HDMI port on the board is DEAD? Oct 29 16:47:06 unlikely Oct 29 16:47:17 still, for a start I would go with a newer image Oct 29 16:49:01 what should I do next Oct 29 16:52:28 morning all my favorite IRC peoplez Oct 29 16:53:06 ho mranostay Oct 29 16:53:11 and trolls Oct 29 16:53:18 :( Oct 29 16:53:47 my favorite trolls, better? :) Oct 29 16:54:40 av500: I also has a usb can convert S-video signal Oct 29 16:54:40 mranostay, "famous irc people" Oct 29 16:54:54 how can I change the output is s-video Oct 29 16:55:35 mdp: too bad that "fame" will get me free beer at a conference at best :) Oct 29 16:56:31 http://www.sensoray.com-> is this using TI stuff -.- ? Oct 29 16:56:54 mranostay, I will get you one beer is honor of your intense famedom Oct 29 16:57:01 one ought to be good enough for anybody Oct 29 16:57:04 s/is/in/ Oct 29 16:57:44 no, I using EasyCAb Oct 29 16:58:36 arcanescu: does not compute Oct 29 16:58:45 :( Oct 29 16:58:47 sigh Oct 29 16:58:47 ah, now does Oct 29 16:59:03 and? Oct 29 16:59:35 does anyone know how I can login to my beagle bone via ubuntu virtual machine & usb? Oct 29 17:01:12 SSH works, but Im trying to do purely through usb on my virtual machine Oct 29 17:02:45 for example, how can I figure out what usb port the beagle bone is on in ubuntu Oct 29 17:14:56 mranostay: thx for discussion last night re I2C - plugged the FPGA board in and i2cdetect -r 3 finds my bus expander. Oct 29 17:15:12 forgot that I2C numbering was 1-based. Oct 29 17:17:06 hello, beaglebone can connect to lcd tft 7 inch? do I need to buy any thing beside lcd ? Oct 29 17:23:01 thing_: ah what interface? Oct 29 17:25:31 I have no idea, is there more then one way we can use lcd Oct 29 17:27:17 I meant was touch screen lcd Oct 29 17:34:27 thing_: id think you'd need driver support to get the touch screen to work Oct 29 17:34:40 it can be bitbanged Oct 29 17:34:50 unless ofcoourse it is like those lillyput lcds which has touch over hdmi Oct 29 17:35:00 or there is a usb invovled not sure Oct 29 17:35:15 bitbanging /me runs away Oct 29 17:35:36 almost anything can be bitbanged if you've got the time to spare. Oct 29 17:35:36 ftw, we bitbang Oct 29 17:36:14 bitbanging is hardcore Oct 29 17:36:19 hez not looking for hardcore Oct 29 17:36:23 just core Oct 29 17:36:56 dumpingcore Oct 29 17:37:32 not quiet that aggressive Oct 29 17:38:36 core breach? Oct 29 17:39:34 skynet? Oct 29 17:40:47 <_av500_> thing_: there is a 7" lcd the beagle Oct 29 17:40:54 <_av500_> that works out of the box afaik Oct 29 17:41:02 <_av500_> or was that for bone? Oct 29 17:41:06 <_av500_> koen: ? Oct 29 17:41:17 av500: the only reason i asked abt sensory is because if they use TI stuff their mpeg2 encoders will not be compliant with standard STB's Oct 29 17:41:38 <_av500_> why would you encode in mpeg2? Oct 29 17:41:39 a couple of days ago ilooked at the mpeg2 stream from it and its missing GOP structure Oct 29 17:41:46 av500: DVB-S Oct 29 17:42:14 im doing dvb-s entirely in software out to modulator and voila you can view the stream on a STB Oct 29 17:42:18 on the other hand Oct 29 17:42:44 ffmpegs encoder is compliant... which is strange but takes alot of computing power and none is left for DVB-s blocks Oct 29 17:42:47 <_av500_> GOP structure can be bitbanged :) Oct 29 17:43:23 hah im sure it can be .... but why would they say in their data sheet that fully compliant MPEG 2 stream when it clearly isnt Oct 29 17:43:26 *g* Oct 29 17:43:30 doesnt even support B frames Oct 29 17:44:06 upon reveleaing this to TI ive not heard back i doubt I will Oct 29 17:44:08 <_av500_> GOP are liars Oct 29 17:44:39 im sure they are..... but the million STBs out there are looking for it Oct 29 17:45:13 and i only found this out once id get a signal on my box and no video feed... Oct 29 17:45:29 why you need ti hw for this? Oct 29 17:45:45 dsp hw encode Oct 29 17:46:04 try doing dvbs blocks + video encoding on the board Oct 29 17:46:16 use some more powerfull x86 hw and off you go Oct 29 17:46:20 processor chokes Oct 29 17:46:40 woglinde: was trying to do it on a board nice small dvb-s modulator for all to use Oct 29 17:46:40 well it turned out I had corrupted my beaglebone angstrom when I updated it, so I have to start all over again Oct 29 17:47:21 woglinde: i can already do it on my x86 machine... it works well Oct 29 17:49:23 anyone here works for TI? need to make corrections on your datasheet :) Oct 29 17:49:54 ask your ti sales person Oct 29 17:50:24 if you can find him .... sure Oct 29 17:52:37 is Sandy a girls name? Oct 29 17:52:58 usually, but not always Oct 29 17:53:14 why are all hurricanes female? Oct 29 17:53:22 they aren't Oct 29 17:53:24 they alternate Oct 29 17:53:33 the big ones get their names retired Oct 29 17:53:38 last one was katarina.... Oct 29 17:53:56 andrew was a huge one... if you're old enough to remember Oct 29 17:54:02 <_av500_> or Irene Oct 29 17:54:07 irene yea Oct 29 17:54:11 ivan Oct 29 17:54:12 * agmlego was bron during Andrew...and is named Andrew... Oct 29 17:54:13 <_av500_> we had Lothar in germany :) Oct 29 17:54:22 nice :) Oct 29 17:54:26 andrew thats a first -> thurbad : at 29 shud i remember? Oct 29 17:54:45 I think andrew was florida in the 90's? Oct 29 17:54:54 '92 Oct 29 17:54:57 <_av500_> google might know Oct 29 17:55:29 agmlego: so you were born the day alot of people had to relocate and not to mention the devastation caused and you have its name aswell Oct 29 17:55:36 that turned out right Oct 29 17:55:39 wikipedia says 92 Oct 29 17:55:47 arcanescu: No alots here, just EE majors. Oct 29 17:56:04 Maybe I am thinking a different hurricane then. Oct 29 17:56:22 The folks talked a lot about Andrew. Maybe I was a toddler at the time? Oct 29 17:56:29 * agmlego was 1988. Oct 29 17:56:35 O_O Oct 29 17:57:09 well all ships are female Oct 29 17:57:23 Not true at all. Oct 29 17:57:34 In fact, a lot of other cultures universally name ships male. Oct 29 17:57:41 See, Russia. Oct 29 17:57:51 russia is not part of the world im sorry Oct 29 17:57:59 no offence to any russian freinds here Oct 29 17:58:00 :P Oct 29 18:01:49 ::shrugs:: Oct 29 18:01:56 That is a pretty limited viewpoint, arcanescu. Oct 29 18:02:10 But based on your handle, I can see where that might come from. ;-P Oct 29 18:02:27 (: Oct 29 18:02:56 kidding obviously Oct 29 18:03:42 http://hackaday.com/2012/10/26/tell-us-what-development-board-you-love/ vote Raspberry!!! Oct 29 18:03:44 i mean beagleee Oct 29 18:11:44 <_av500_> breadboard Oct 29 18:17:12 prpplague: got your dalek eye ready? Oct 29 18:18:05 mranostay: oh shoot i forgot about that Oct 29 18:18:19 * prpplague makes a not to purchase some rolls of duct tape Oct 29 18:22:11 mru: http://elinux.org/Harwell_Computer#Educational_Replica Oct 29 18:23:06 Hello, I try to find the Fedora 17 image for beaglebone, but I only found the f17 image for beagleboard XM. Can I use this image for beaglebone? Or could you give me the link to download the f17 image for beaglebone? Oct 29 18:31:45 Does anyone have the Fedora17 image for beaglebone? please give me the link, thanks Oct 29 18:32:11 try google Oct 29 18:32:13 What have you tried to search for in Google for this before coming here? Oct 29 18:32:46 I google it and only find the image for beagleboard XM Oct 29 18:33:08 I wonder if I can use this image for beaglebone? Oct 29 18:34:45 try it and see Oct 29 18:37:13 anyone use beaglebone now? Oct 29 18:39:14 one more thing is when I connect beaglebone to Fedora 17, it can not find my device Oct 29 18:39:26 probably quite a few in here using beglebone,not so many using fedora Oct 29 18:40:19 it was working once, and did not work late Oct 29 18:40:40 what is this beagelebone device i hear of? Oct 29 18:40:51 seems pretty advanced Oct 29 18:40:57 heh Oct 29 18:41:36 mranostay, can you PM me a link? Oct 29 18:42:37 linky-poo inc Oct 29 18:46:08 mmMMmm, peanut butter and honey sandwich in one hand, a banana in the other.. good. Oct 29 18:46:44 ambrosia! Oct 29 18:47:04 djlewis: watch out for the Po-40 Oct 29 18:48:26 emeb: yes, mranostay: google does not enlighten me. Oct 29 18:49:08 mranostay: looks like an address in Thailand Oct 29 18:49:47 <_av500_> Jie: no idea about f17 on bone Oct 29 18:50:04 djlewis: er K-40 Oct 29 18:50:06 * emeb uses a beaglebone w/ F17. Nothing special to do. Oct 29 18:50:16 <_av500_> Jie: the beagle image will not work, different kernel needed Oct 29 18:50:25 <_av500_> well ok then Oct 29 18:50:39 <_av500_> emeb: f27 as host Oct 29 18:50:40 <_av500_> mo? Oct 29 18:50:42 <_av500_> no? Oct 29 18:50:47 yes Oct 29 18:50:47 <_av500_> grah Oct 29 18:50:49 mranostay: it will out live me ;) Oct 29 18:50:50 <_av500_> f17 Oct 29 18:50:57 not running F17 on bbone. gah! Oct 29 18:51:00 <_av500_> but i guess he wants it on the bone Oct 29 18:51:06 lunacy. Oct 29 18:51:33 <_av500_> yes, full mooon Oct 29 18:51:40 <_av500_> see what it did to sandy Oct 29 18:51:43 tonight! Oct 29 18:52:27 djlewis: bananas are a well-known measure of radioactivity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose Oct 29 18:52:30 its supposed to be high tide + Sandy tonight Oct 29 18:54:03 so has it made landfall in NJ? Oct 29 18:54:13 and did anyone notice the difference? :) Oct 29 18:54:32 http://twitpic.com/b8k2sl Oct 29 18:56:31 i fail to remember why Godzilla was the good monster Oct 29 18:56:51 he had to take out as many buildings as the 'bad monster' did Oct 29 18:57:47 mranostay: Godzilla came with a cigarette lighter Oct 29 18:58:33 mranostay: Godzilla is/was a metaphor for nuclear energy - both destructive and beneficial at times. Oct 29 18:59:14 emeb: that is deep Oct 29 18:59:18 <_av500_> which reminds me Oct 29 18:59:21 <_av500_> to post something Oct 29 18:59:42 * mranostay thinks _av500_ is a post bot Oct 29 19:01:08 <_av500_> that was #5 Oct 29 19:01:16 koen any feedback on kernel.git patches? Oct 29 19:01:56 emeb: that gave me a good laugh Oct 29 19:02:02 the link that is Oct 29 19:02:57 djlewis: I was hoping to see the cast of "The Jersey Shore" sticking out of his teeth. Oct 29 19:03:30 _av500_: .... Oct 29 19:04:21 _av500_: So, do you know where i can find image for bbone? Oct 29 19:04:36 christ... use google already Oct 29 19:04:48 google is down, due to sandy. Oct 29 19:04:59 no, google is bob ross today Oct 29 19:05:03 not sandy Oct 29 19:05:19 happy little clouds! Oct 29 19:05:28 and I would think that would make google cheery, not down Oct 29 19:05:39 emeb, oh the horrible irony! Oct 29 19:05:44 I have to leave now, if you have any info, please send me email: tiandewode@hotmail.com thanks! Oct 29 19:06:01 I'll get right on that... Oct 29 19:06:03 heh Oct 29 19:06:08 hotmail go figure Oct 29 19:07:14 your codes - send them to me. Now. Oct 29 19:07:38 <_av500_> lol Oct 29 19:07:55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuUwW4Wi0-o Oct 29 19:08:42 What? google and Sandy are in bed together? Oct 29 19:09:10 someone take pictures Oct 29 19:12:49 ~ Oct 29 19:12:53 djlewis no thanks Oct 29 19:13:28 } Oct 29 19:13:42 :-{} Oct 29 19:14:04 gah! he broke the sequence. Next was |, then { Oct 29 20:12:22 seems like Sandy is The Day After Tomorrow in Real Life... Oct 29 20:27:49 <_av500_> emeb: godzilla post posted Oct 29 20:28:59 _av500_: would have been even better it Frankenstein was in the picture ready to battle Godzilla Oct 29 20:29:30 _av500_: :) Oct 29 20:36:43 godzilla kicks ass Oct 29 20:39:32 Go go go Godzilla ... Oct 29 20:47:14 <_av500_> go go go Sciencezilla :-P Oct 29 21:01:31 keep burning that oil Oct 29 21:02:31 UNTEngineer: minus the cold fusion Oct 29 22:15:03 power is flickering here. I blame Frankenstorm. Oct 29 22:18:27 wb sakoman Oct 29 22:18:40 * djlewis suspects our frankenstorm is just normal winter for scandinavians. Oct 29 22:19:03 heh not much snow in Arkansas? Oct 29 22:19:42 off and on here. I havent seen more than about 6" in a 12 year period. Oct 29 22:19:43 sunny and 76F today Oct 29 22:19:53 really hard to stay inside and work :-( Oct 29 22:20:15 sakoman: so stay outside and work, you will feel better ;) Oct 29 22:21:47 work is overrated Oct 29 22:22:08 windy and blowing snow here Oct 29 22:22:28 Crofton|work: VA? Oct 29 22:23:13 yeah Oct 29 22:23:15 sw though Oct 29 22:23:20 out of the main mess Oct 29 22:23:30 but apparently the liquor stores are still closed Oct 29 22:23:36 :( Oct 29 22:25:02 Crofton|work: some sort of curfew? :) Oct 29 22:25:28 is VA one of those semi dry states? Oct 29 22:25:54 I know maryland is, or at least parts of it Oct 29 22:26:32 Crofton|work: our condolences... Oct 29 22:28:26 i do find it ironic Moore county is dry Oct 29 22:30:25 come to think of it I think Perry county is dry. I always fillup in pulaski county. Oct 29 23:58:22 anybody done gpio-based interrupts on a recent (3.7) kernel? Oct 29 23:58:45 isr doesn't get called, or at least the printk() I put in there doesn't get printed Oct 29 23:58:53 the number increments in /proc/interrupts Oct 29 23:59:01 it shows that I've registered it there Oct 29 23:59:11 It all worked in 3.6 :) Oct 29 23:59:22 it was a different gpio line though Oct 30 00:00:08 some print statements I put in set_gpio_trigger() get printed when I mess with the irq line (disconnect, reconenct to ground, etc) Oct 30 00:05:47 alan_o: works for me Oct 30 00:07:26 turning on DYNAMIC_DEBUG Oct 30 00:07:28 I have some of those too Oct 30 00:08:10 native gpios or via an expander/mux? Oct 30 00:08:25 native gpio Oct 30 00:08:30 it's behind a mux though... Oct 30 00:08:36 1_21 on bone Oct 30 00:08:47 ah those... Oct 30 00:09:06 i was trying to figure out if you were using the gpio something like the 4030 or the i2c stuff or not Oct 30 00:09:28 sure you printk level is enough to see the printk? Oct 30 00:09:31 i.e. does dmesg show it? Oct 30 00:09:56 nothing in dmesg about it Oct 30 00:10:24 from /proc/interrupts: 195: 118 GPIO spi1.0 Oct 30 00:10:32 118 increments as this thing runs Oct 30 00:10:52 I see that 195 is the number I'm registering for in my probe() Oct 30 00:11:12 how are you requesting the interrupts? Oct 30 00:11:12 printk(KERN_ERR "mrf24j40 isr\n"); is in my interrupt handler Oct 30 00:11:43 http://pastebin.com/Gt54EzsR Oct 30 00:11:51 I mean it all worked before Oct 30 00:11:55 fairly stock stuff Oct 30 00:13:20 what's the mrf24j40_isr() function like? Oct 30 00:13:22 like I said, I see set_gpio_trigger() called when the interrupts happen too Oct 30 00:13:47 http://pastebin.com/Z16WJAft Oct 30 00:14:56 does it work if you remove the disable_irq_nosync()? Oct 30 00:15:16 good question. I'd assume I'd still see the printk though Oct 30 00:15:19 at least one of them Oct 30 00:15:39 oh... now I get the isr printout Oct 30 00:15:50 what the heck Oct 30 00:16:09 well, hmm... that was with a couple config options different Oct 30 00:16:15 DYNAMIC_DEBUG.... Oct 30 00:16:28 but that's a printk(). that can't be surpressed Oct 30 00:16:38 (well, not if all the other printk stuff is working elsewhere) Oct 30 00:16:40 it could be you are not being called Oct 30 00:16:50 I'm being called now.... Oct 30 00:16:52 that is being incremented but you have asked to not be called Oct 30 00:16:53 strange Oct 30 00:16:57 no, I mean with the disable Oct 30 00:16:58 oh Oct 30 00:17:14 oh yeah, I see what you mean Oct 30 00:17:19 yeah, there's something messed up a bit still Oct 30 00:17:31 i.e. assumption of shared irqs Oct 30 00:18:11 seems like I'm getting timeouts waiting for the tx_complete Oct 30 00:18:20 then I get an interrupt right after Oct 30 00:18:21 strange Oct 30 00:18:32 sure polarity is right? Oct 30 00:18:44 It's the same as it was in 3.6 Oct 30 00:19:01 could be old bug or someone screwed with the HW setup code and broq things Oct 30 00:25:16 too many weird things Oct 30 00:25:22 I wonder if I'm driving the SPI too fast Oct 30 00:25:28 the datasheet doesn't give a max speed Oct 30 00:25:37 and this is breadboard with wires Oct 30 00:28:49 how fast areyou running it? Oct 30 00:29:55 was running at 12MHz Oct 30 00:30:03 but back on 3.6 I was running with spi-gpio Oct 30 00:30:04 so who knows Oct 30 00:30:10 docs say that usually fails to make 1M Oct 30 00:30:19 try 1MHz Oct 30 00:30:26 That's what I did Oct 30 00:30:31 oh Oct 30 00:30:33 still not getting rx interrupts Oct 30 00:30:50 is it toggling the interrupt line at all? Oct 30 00:30:54 * mranostay interrupts alan_o Oct 30 00:31:42 yeah, I'm getting the interrupts now Oct 30 00:31:51 sorry.... Oct 30 00:31:56 I'm being unclear Oct 30 00:32:06 I'm getting the isr, but the flag doesn't seem to be set, Oct 30 00:32:14 ah... it never claimed to have received it? Oct 30 00:32:22 this is xbee, right? Oct 30 00:33:01 mrf24j40... Microchip's 802.15.4 transceiver Oct 30 00:33:17 Not sure what's up exactly.... Oct 30 00:33:33 sure it is receiving something valid? Oct 30 00:33:42 I'm sending it a ping Oct 30 00:33:48 ping is.... hmm.... Oct 30 00:34:02 Well, wireshark shows the ping, but tha'ts on the sending computer so who knows Oct 30 00:34:05 that part is good I think Oct 30 00:34:21 i mean OTA Oct 30 00:34:21 That's same kernel that always worked (3.5 or 3.6 on PC) Oct 30 00:34:30 yeah, the ota, who knows... Oct 30 00:34:39 I can bust out the analyzer to be sure Oct 30 00:34:57 any spec an handy? Oct 30 00:35:09 or what about put out a broadcast and have another node sniff it? Oct 30 00:35:33 yeah, that's what I'm gonna try Oct 30 00:36:03 of course right now I'm not seeing a printk.... either the spi is failing, or this isn't getting rebuilt right, or something Oct 30 00:36:32 you did check if it is PP or OC, right? Oct 30 00:37:28 PP and OC? Oct 30 00:37:37 yeah, on the interrupt pin Oct 30 00:38:19 I don't know what those acronyms mean.... Oct 30 00:38:26 but I think ti's not the interrupt pin Oct 30 00:38:30 Oh, sorry Oct 30 00:38:32 I'm getting my ISR Oct 30 00:38:40 Push Pull (i.e. actively driven high or low) Oct 30 00:38:52 vs Open Collector/Open Drain - actively driven low, needs a pull up Oct 30 00:39:10 oh... Oct 30 00:39:21 so if it was OC, you could have funny business with that line if you didn't pull it up right Oct 30 00:39:34 It seems like I read that stuff before... the line is being pulled iirc, let me check...... Oct 30 00:40:38 actaully..... now I think my workqueue handler isn't getting called. Oct 30 00:40:54 did you add things to the work queue? Oct 30 00:42:59 Well, from the isr..... Oct 30 00:43:02 yeah Oct 30 00:43:04 this all used to work Oct 30 00:43:10 It's in mainline :) Oct 30 00:43:23 blah ;) Oct 30 00:54:37 arrgh.... it's my stupid build script Oct 30 00:55:20 alan_o: how much hair have you lost? :) Oct 30 00:55:29 *sigh* Oct 30 00:56:37 prpplague: not at LC? Oct 30 00:57:22 mranostay: naw, too many things going on Oct 30 00:57:33 what did the build script do? Oct 30 00:57:53 well, it was causing me to not be running the latest Oct 30 00:57:59 ohhhhh Oct 30 00:58:04 still not sure why Oct 30 00:58:18 all it does is build and copy Oct 30 01:01:10 ok.... what's the default target? Oct 30 01:01:27 I think I've not determined that Oct 30 01:01:32 make and make all do different things iirc Oct 30 01:03:09 so basically isrstat is 0. That should have some interrupt flags in it. Oct 30 01:03:22 I wonder if my read line is muxed/pulled properly.... Oct 30 01:17:56 hmm.... miso connected to +vdd still reads back 0x0 Oct 30 01:18:07 back to the mux Oct 30 01:27:11 heheh Oct 30 01:27:44 mux you talk like that? Oct 30 01:30:39 maybe the sashimi needs to be looked at instead of the miso Oct 30 01:30:56 alan_o, https://gist.github.com/3977789 Oct 30 01:32:10 yeah, I'm overwriting that in code, I think.... Oct 30 01:32:19 nooo!! Oct 30 01:32:24 :) Oct 30 01:32:34 pinctrl will even catch conflicts if you don't outsmart it! ;) Oct 30 01:32:40 super-useful Oct 30 01:32:41 it will? Oct 30 01:32:45 yes Oct 30 01:32:49 hmm. Oct 30 01:32:55 Well, let me turn my code off then. Oct 30 01:33:08 it's a complete resource manager too Oct 30 01:33:26 in fact, it saved me some woe just yesterday on the 6502 thing Oct 30 01:33:50 I was moving pins and it started shouting at me that it couldn't use one that I already claimed in another driver probe Oct 30 01:34:05 but you do have to listen to the shouting Oct 30 01:34:19 and have drivers that are pinctrl enabled..oh yes Oct 30 01:35:28 when will the official pinmux tool output all that? :D Oct 30 01:35:29 So the part in your github paste, that's different from what was in the TI kernel Oct 30 01:35:46 The TI kernel had a couple of those pulled down Oct 30 01:35:47 "the TI kernel"? Oct 30 01:36:02 oh 3.2 Oct 30 01:36:10 arago-project (the 3.2 one that comes by default from OE) Oct 30 01:36:50 you know what...the only pin that's not tested of what I pasted is MISO..so I'm not sure it's correct Oct 30 01:36:53 keep that in mind Oct 30 01:37:07 I just remembered I only use output with my peripheral Oct 30 01:37:31 I wish I had a scope :( Oct 30 01:37:53 get one Oct 30 01:38:04 I know...... I'm just so bad at buying stuff Oct 30 01:38:12 isn't a scope one of the demos for the stellaris dev boards? Oct 30 01:38:25 Was close to buying that one that EEV Dave likes from Rigol Oct 30 01:38:50 alan_o, I use a logic analyzer 50x what I use a scope Oct 30 01:39:00 mdp: which one do you use? Oct 30 01:39:13 ds2, the openbench logic sniffer Oct 30 01:39:55 mdp: how useable is the configuration sw? Oct 30 01:40:09 the tek's and hp's can be a nightmare to configure Oct 30 01:40:11 very Oct 30 01:40:52 with the java client I find it comparable in functionality to salae Oct 30 01:41:25 but with a lot better capability...32 channels...max 200mhz..scaled to your channel usage, of course Oct 30 01:41:32 for $50, I can't complain Oct 30 01:41:41 hw looks good Oct 30 01:41:52 trying to find out what kind of decodes can it do Oct 30 01:41:54 I used hp/teks for years to 90% of the time do stuff that could be done by this unit Oct 30 01:42:06 i2c, spi, rs-232, etc. Oct 30 01:42:18 I'm slowly migrating to using sigrok.. Oct 30 01:42:40 for quick and dirty stuff I just run sigrok-cli and look at the "bit" output on my terminal Oct 30 01:42:50 sump.org is the site for thw sw, right? Oct 30 01:42:54 where I don't need to visualize timing in general Oct 30 01:43:02 ds2, that's not the preferred s/w Oct 30 01:43:08 Ohhh Oct 30 01:43:09 you can run several client Oct 30 01:43:19 which is the preferred sw w/the decodes? Oct 30 01:43:27 sump, then there's jawi's client which is the preferred one. Oct 30 01:43:27 sec Oct 30 01:43:52 http://www.lxtreme.nl/ols/ Oct 30 01:44:18 > Oct 30 01:44:30 oooO Oct 30 01:44:59 * ds2 shakes fist at the acronym Oct 30 01:45:08 do we really need another usage of OLS? GRRRRRR Oct 30 01:45:31 brings back Ottawa pub BOF memories ;) Oct 30 01:46:05 ds2, simple gpmc capture example in this post: http://engineersofthecorn.blogspot.com/2012/06/faux-gpmc-interfacing-with-beaglebone.html Oct 30 01:47:34 that's the basics Oct 30 01:47:40 still looking for details on the decodes Oct 30 01:48:09 hmm.. so configured as GPIO (from pinctl-single) I can read it, and it works, but as MISO, it reads all zeros. Oct 30 01:48:17 he doesn't really show the list of decoders Oct 30 01:48:24 on the web page Oct 30 01:48:31 alan_o: did you make the clock input AND output? Oct 30 01:48:35 ah Oct 30 01:48:54 one irritating feature of the tek is when you have a large buffer enabled, decoding can take nearly forever Oct 30 01:48:56 ?? clock should be output only (I thought) Oct 30 01:49:08 alan_o: no.... something is F'ed about the TI chips Oct 30 01:49:23 if it is set to the obvious O only, you get the broken behavior Oct 30 01:49:39 if you read the lines using the diag registers in the MCSPI, ,you will read the correct states Oct 30 01:49:53 somewhere in the archives, I have a post on this but that is the jist of it Oct 30 01:50:19 I guess I'm not sure how one would even do that. Oct 30 01:50:28 Ther'es a bit for "receiver enable" Oct 30 01:50:29 do what? Oct 30 01:50:46 set it to input and output at once Oct 30 01:50:50 you're talking about the pinmux? Oct 30 01:50:51 alan_o, well, you *must* have receiver enable on for MISO Oct 30 01:50:54 I think that's then one... corresponds to the input enable in the older pinmux code Oct 30 01:51:07 yeah, I have input on that one Oct 30 01:51:11 just like in the paste you sent Oct 30 01:51:13 mdp: in my experience, input receiver is needed on CLK also Oct 30 01:51:24 ds2, interesting Oct 30 01:51:58 mdp: I suspect it someone in chip design screwed up and they had to tack in a feedback for the clock through another place. no one has ever responded to that theory Oct 30 01:52:04 it maybe Oct 30 01:52:05 ds2, seems like for slave mode only that would be the case Oct 30 01:52:09 but interesting Oct 30 01:52:19 I believe experience over theory any day Oct 30 01:52:33 mdp: not based on what I see. I was able to read all the lines using the MCSPI diag registers just fine Oct 30 01:52:41 think others came to the same conclusions as I did Oct 30 01:53:22 Oooohhh seedstudio is $50 but sf wants $70 Oct 30 01:53:51 adafruit has it I think.... Oct 30 01:54:32 wonder if the clips on that cable detach Oct 30 01:54:48 no, she just has an article about it, n/m Oct 30 01:57:32 ds2, seeed is where I got mine Oct 30 01:57:42 also, those cables are worthless they sell Oct 30 01:57:49 Oh Oct 30 01:58:04 better off grabbing some hp ones from ebay to go with it Oct 30 01:58:13 as with most of this stuff they skimp on probes Oct 30 01:59:05 I use mine in conjunction with a breadboard 90% of the time now so I just bought some male to female rain ribbon cable with proper headers Oct 30 01:59:33 one more thing..there's some issues with floating signals for the channels you don't use Oct 30 02:00:05 I took a piece of female header strip...and solder bridged all the pins Oct 30 02:00:30 I just keep that on the end for whatever channels I don't use..sliding it down as I attach more channels Oct 30 02:00:47 since there's a ground at the opposite end it keeps all those channels from floating Oct 30 02:07:49 Hmmm they sure don't talk about the sw capabilities a lot Oct 30 02:08:01 not much on triggers Oct 30 02:14:21 ds2, much more info here: http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Open_Bench_Logic_Sniffer Oct 30 02:14:33 101,102,103 Oct 30 02:20:55 so mdp... what are the odds that this just doesn't work? You said you didn't test input.... did mranostay? Oct 30 02:21:03 or anyone else? Oct 30 02:21:07 I don't know what else to try Oct 30 02:21:23 I've tested input with an m25 part on the am335x-evm..so it does work Oct 30 02:21:35 hmm ok Oct 30 02:21:36 but I used the u-boot residual pin mux settings Oct 30 02:22:01 I just didn't have a pinmux dts to show you Oct 30 02:22:09 let me check something Oct 30 02:25:02 alan_o, from mainline u-boot: https://gist.github.com/3977950 Oct 30 02:25:25 That's spi0 Oct 30 02:25:30 which file is that in? Oct 30 02:25:36 I have uboot source Oct 30 02:25:46 alan_o, that's what's running on my -evm..and since I can only boot from DT, it's the only thing setting pinmux for spi0 Oct 30 02:25:58 well, that's all I have that has a r/w part attached Oct 30 02:26:05 oh Oct 30 02:26:10 oh wait, it doesn't matter Oct 30 02:26:15 just the mode will be different Oct 30 02:26:18 board/ti/am335x/mux.c Oct 30 02:26:30 yes, that's your reference Oct 30 02:26:36 applies, regardless of the instance Oct 30 02:26:41 so clock has RXACTIVE Oct 30 02:26:55 but so do d0 and d1 Oct 30 02:27:02 and cs Oct 30 02:27:14 yeah, and I know that tom was dealing with version of the EVM where d0/d1 were swapped Oct 30 02:27:24 so I think they just flipped the receiver on for both of those Oct 30 02:27:29 they're both rx though Oct 30 02:27:33 oh Oct 30 02:27:34 hmm Oct 30 02:27:57 that way he could have one mux entry Oct 30 02:28:20 just because they're on doesn't mean they are necessary ;) Oct 30 02:28:45 could be, but not guaranteed Oct 30 02:29:10 oh Oct 30 02:29:16 it would take a lot of convincing to make me grok why cs0 needs the receiver active Oct 30 02:29:17 I thought that was input _OR_ output Oct 30 02:29:27 guess not Oct 30 02:41:58 alan_o: test what input? Oct 30 02:42:58 spi1 miso Oct 30 02:48:46 used SPI1 it works Oct 30 02:50:08 did you do anything to the dt? Oct 30 02:50:53 I'm setting up this device outside the dt.... it seems to be fine, but maybe that's got something to do with it Oct 30 02:51:24 alan_o: well i'm using SPI0 only atm Oct 30 02:51:47 but SPI1 worked with the adafruit TFT display Oct 30 02:53:48 alan_o: you doing this a for ELC demo by chance? Oct 30 02:53:53 oh yeah Oct 30 02:54:19 This stuff all worked with spi-gpio... but I'm moving it to real SPI controller Oct 30 02:54:30 is everyone's world on fire? :) Oct 30 02:54:47 can't answer that for sure, but mine sure is..... Oct 30 02:56:13 so mdp, those values from u-boot gave me nothing Oct 30 02:56:18 I couldn't even write Oct 30 02:56:27 SNAFU Oct 30 02:56:29 swapped d0 and d1 too just to try Oct 30 02:57:05 alan_o: you have a spare bone by chance? Oct 30 02:57:12 no Oct 30 02:57:13 but Oct 30 02:57:21 I swapped that pin to GPIO, and it reads fine Oct 30 02:57:32 for whatever that's worth Oct 30 02:58:05 maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree Oct 30 02:58:12 maybe it's something else entirely Oct 30 02:58:44 just for my own sanity..... if I connect MISO (d0) to +vdd, then I should read back all 1's right? Oct 30 02:58:55 you have sanity? Oct 30 02:59:02 not much Oct 30 02:59:05 you clearly haven't been here long :P **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 30 02:59:57 2012