**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 30 02:59:58 2012 Oct 30 02:59:58 hehe Oct 30 03:01:35 * mranostay drinks a buddha beer Oct 30 03:09:09 ok, so let's say I wanted to put this in the device tree..... Oct 30 03:09:24 How do I go about telling it which interrupt to use? Oct 30 03:09:34 I found a blog post about it Oct 30 03:09:45 subtracting 32, some other nonsense Oct 30 03:09:53 is that serous? Oct 30 03:09:59 serious? Oct 30 03:11:06 who knows Oct 30 03:11:14 iirc the gpio banks are 32 Oct 30 03:11:19 so that is possible Oct 30 03:11:42 actaully i'm sure that is "correct" Oct 30 03:13:48 mdp: seems a bit light weight but for $50, it might be worthwhile Oct 30 03:14:06 got yours in the mail already? Oct 30 03:14:12 I've been here longer than I thought Oct 30 03:14:18 ds2: OLS? Oct 30 03:16:32 mranostay: OLS is also Ottawa Linux Summit Oct 30 03:18:19 yes yes Oct 30 03:21:45 heh daylight savings happens during my flight i think Oct 30 03:22:10 time travel! Oct 30 03:25:34 too bad the stock market is closed then Oct 30 03:26:06 whoa.... Oct 30 03:26:08 I got something Oct 30 03:26:12 0xff Oct 30 03:26:22 That's better than 0x00 Oct 30 03:26:48 "Man discovers the 1" Oct 30 03:26:54 someone 26 + 26 that Oct 30 03:27:20 I think so Oct 30 03:29:10 I've got interrupt flags! Oct 30 03:29:29 I can PING!!!!!! Oct 30 03:29:56 ok, rebooting, just to be sure Oct 30 03:29:57 YAY! Oct 30 03:30:37 so I think the issue is exactly what ds2 said a couple hours ago... Oct 30 03:30:49 but I was sure I tried it back then Oct 30 03:31:12 was that before or afterI didn't trust my builds..... Oct 30 03:31:28 after Oct 30 03:31:43 hmm Oct 30 03:31:53 so maybe it wasn't CLK then... Oct 30 03:32:07 I basically turned all 4 pins to Read-enable and pull-up Oct 30 03:32:10 0x33 for all Oct 30 03:45:10 wheee..brownout Oct 30 03:45:25 on purpose? Oct 30 03:45:25 alan_o, so, success? Oct 30 03:45:31 for testing your design? Oct 30 03:45:45 Sandy effects Oct 30 03:45:56 I think success.... 0x33 for all of the SPI regs. Oct 30 03:46:13 Are you in Boston? Oct 30 03:46:18 is that what you said? Oct 30 03:46:20 ohio Oct 30 03:46:21 I should just look at your profile Oct 30 03:46:24 oh right. Oct 30 03:46:39 I always default to thinking Texas for all you TI guys :) Oct 30 03:46:48 can't understand why..... Oct 30 03:46:57 I'm an outcast, it's ok Oct 30 03:47:12 That's the way to be, I think. Oct 30 03:47:42 then you have the perception of being this really smart guy who we can't get to move here, but we'll take him any way we can get him Oct 30 03:54:56 never the smart guy, always the odd guy ;) Oct 30 04:07:02 alan_o: flyover country :) Oct 30 04:07:58 alan_o: i can atest for mdp's oddness :P Oct 30 04:08:19 hehe Oct 30 04:15:45 mdp: the OLS is 3.3V I/O isn't it Oct 30 04:15:47 ? Oct 30 04:15:55 so it won't work well with the sitara stuff Oct 30 04:15:59 ds2: no Oct 30 04:16:05 up to 7V Oct 30 04:16:23 eh? Oct 30 04:16:31 so does it work at 1.8V then? Oct 30 04:16:48 based on the description, it is 3.3V thresholds so you can have it clip for up to 7V Oct 30 04:16:54 ah Oct 30 04:17:43 trying to find out of the external side of the buffer chip is exposed Oct 30 04:17:57 it is unfortunate the schematics don't show the variant used Oct 30 04:21:40 i've only used with 3.3v and 5v logic Oct 30 04:26:16 you've never used it with the sitara's? Oct 30 04:28:32 nope Oct 30 04:35:10 why am I still up? Oct 30 04:35:21 ka6sox: in EU? Oct 30 04:35:35 no, PDT Oct 30 04:35:47 it is 9:30p Oct 30 04:35:48 930p? Oct 30 04:35:55 yes Oct 30 04:36:09 er that is late for you? Oct 30 04:36:18 I'm old...so yes :D Oct 30 04:36:29 you aren't that old Oct 30 04:36:33 i think Oct 30 04:36:50 do you remember the first time I met you? Oct 30 04:36:56 @ the Irish Bar in SF? Oct 30 04:37:01 yeah Oct 30 04:37:03 (at ELC) Oct 30 04:37:39 that was a long walk from the hotel :( Oct 30 04:38:18 it was a long walk as well but probably since i wasn't completely sober :) Oct 30 04:38:23 next year's ELC backs up to SCaLE... Oct 30 04:38:40 so thats going to be tight Oct 30 04:38:48 where is next ELC at? Oct 30 04:38:50 SF? Oct 30 04:38:55 ya, Downtown Oct 30 04:38:57 They have a date? Oct 30 04:38:59 Park 55 Oct 30 04:39:03 ya Oct 30 04:39:08 nobody liked Redwood City Oct 30 04:39:09 good for them... on the ball Oct 30 04:39:15 I did however :) Oct 30 04:39:26 Powell and Market it looks like Oct 30 04:39:32 wha? Oct 30 04:39:37 park 55, hooray Oct 30 04:39:40 _that_ downtown Oct 30 04:39:42 that was my suggestion Oct 30 04:39:54 not that anyone who makes decisions heard me... Oct 30 04:40:00 I like the City Oct 30 04:40:05 now I need a talk Oct 30 04:40:07 but i will have to fly Oct 30 04:40:25 Train to SJC, Caltrain to SF Oct 30 04:40:33 nice i can use Caltrain Oct 30 04:40:39 Bart to SFO ->> LAX Oct 30 04:40:42 then to the Hilton Oct 30 04:40:56 hopefully i can get my employer to give those days off Oct 30 04:41:12 when is it this year? Oct 30 04:41:15 1 solid week of conferences...I'm gonna be wiped out Oct 30 04:41:35 Good thing I am no longer A/V chair @ SCaLE :D Oct 30 04:41:41 oi, scale I'd actually have to commute daily Oct 30 04:41:46 UPS has been spamming about Sandy for last 8 hours Oct 30 04:41:59 Russfrom where? Oct 30 04:42:07 inland empire Oct 30 04:42:12 ewww Oct 30 04:42:33 I head to Banning Wednesday.... Oct 30 04:42:50 geez, not that for inland Oct 30 04:42:52 er far Oct 30 04:42:54 doing expresso shots? Oct 30 04:42:55 chino hills Oct 30 04:43:05 daily from SoCal, why? Oct 30 04:43:07 they moved it yet earlier again?! Oct 30 04:43:11 oh f Oct 30 04:43:21 ya, its not gonna be fun Oct 30 04:43:29 7 days of this is too much :( Oct 30 04:44:08 10 Dec deadline for scale proposals Oct 30 04:44:20 I have 2 I've written up.... Oct 30 04:44:28 just have to decide which to submit Oct 30 04:44:37 I'm pretty sure Parc 55 is within the area that our hotel guy hashed off on the map and said "don't go here" Oct 30 04:44:48 Tenderloin Oct 30 04:44:55 alan_o, no, its not Oct 30 04:44:58 screw scale Oct 30 04:45:03 course it depends on what you mean by "far" Oct 30 04:45:13 Russ: No? It's right next to Eddy Oct 30 04:45:14 not going to waste my time going to LA Oct 30 04:45:25 ds2, meh Oct 30 04:45:28 really should push ELC later after ESC Oct 30 04:45:28 parc 55 is a great location, right next to bart, right next to the trolley car Oct 30 04:45:33 right Oct 30 04:45:40 but just to the west is the Tenderloin Oct 30 04:45:46 right Oct 30 04:45:48 but Oct 30 04:45:51 West of Powell.. Oct 30 04:46:01 I will say that SF changes dramatically from street to street Oct 30 04:46:04 ka6sox, yes, but if you walk to the tenderloin, you can tell you've reached the tenderloin Oct 30 04:46:06 or _can_ change Oct 30 04:46:19 parc 55 is basically union square Oct 30 04:46:23 right Oct 30 04:46:26 so 'thou shalt not wander from venue or risk major wraith' Oct 30 04:46:38 I'm not saying I'm not going because of that Oct 30 04:47:04 Russ: turn right around? :) Oct 30 04:47:11 no kidding Oct 30 04:47:14 exactly, unless you are in a group, then who cares Oct 30 04:47:16 ka6sox: so you prefer SCALE? Oct 30 04:47:40 ds2, its a different crowd...and for the last 4yrs I ran A/V @ SCaLE... Oct 30 04:48:21 ka6sox: I know... but accomodates are $$$$$ for LA Oct 30 04:48:32 if you live in LA its not... Oct 30 04:48:44 if you live in SF area then you can say the same about ELC Oct 30 04:49:27 I may just do 1 day @ ELC this year :( Oct 30 04:49:27 but there is no working public transit down in LA so you ahve to stay near the venue or pay for parking Oct 30 04:49:35 agreed Oct 30 04:49:42 ds2, just sleep at LAX with all the homeless folks Oct 30 04:49:46 we love our cars :D Oct 30 04:50:36 maybe I'll fly up early flight to SFO or SJC then goto LAX late @ night Oct 30 04:50:51 parking is twenty damn bucks per day at SCALE :( Oct 30 04:54:23 SF is like that period Oct 30 04:54:37 Russ have you presented @ SCaLE before? Oct 30 04:54:44 no Oct 30 04:55:09 mranostay, yes, but you don't need a car to go fun places in SF Oct 30 04:56:45 Russ do try to get in a talk... Oct 30 04:57:13 that's the plan Oct 30 05:05:41 mranostay: SF has working bart/caltrain. that is not available for SCaLE Oct 30 05:05:58 ka6sox: is ELC the monday right after SCaLe? Oct 30 05:06:09 no Oct 30 05:06:11 before Oct 30 05:06:23 wed-friday, SCaLE Sat-Sun Oct 30 05:06:57 oh crap Oct 30 05:07:10 didn't catch that ELC is BEFORE SCaLe Oct 30 05:07:18 is this set in stone or just being talked about by CELF? Oct 30 05:07:36 It's on the website Oct 30 05:07:44 oh it is up Oct 30 05:08:00 i get junk mail for other LF events but for some reason I don't get the ELC Ones.....@#%@#$@%$#@@# Oct 30 05:08:03 LF likes to put stuff on the website then a few weeks later send out emails it seems Oct 30 05:08:21 I didn't get an email either Oct 30 05:09:32 blah Oct 30 05:23:00 does anyone know how to list channels starting with ## ? Oct 30 05:40:02 Ok, I'm out of here all, thanks ds2 mdp and mranostay for all your help earlier. Oct 30 05:40:33 good thing I retired from doing so much with SCaLE or I wouldnt' make it at all this year to ELC. Oct 30 05:52:55 * mranostay waves to the swing shift emeb_mac :) Oct 30 05:53:07 o/ Oct 30 05:53:47 * emeb_mac is happy that his fpga board shows up on I2C2 now. Oct 30 05:54:17 now just need to get spi0 turned on and I can start programming the thing. Oct 30 05:56:12 HiHo, HiHo..its off to Reflow I go!@ Oct 30 05:56:43 is there an echo? :) Oct 30 05:57:26 yup Oct 30 05:58:59 reflow? Oct 30 05:59:06 u got flux in the air? Oct 30 06:03:35 reflowing his copy of the FPGA board Oct 30 06:20:18 <_av500_> go with the reflow Oct 30 06:33:10 * mranostay is back Oct 30 06:33:17 done talking to himself :) Oct 30 06:33:37 i have it to 42 minutes with demo :) Oct 30 06:34:50 _av500_: how hard is reflow? Oct 30 06:43:59 Russ: hey guess what song i have on Oct 30 06:45:07 I'm a little teapot? Oct 30 06:45:38 mranostay, psy? Oct 30 06:45:56 * Russ finally takes a look at his sick chumby Oct 30 06:45:57 close thing another pop song you love Oct 30 06:46:11 is it all about the pentiums? Oct 30 06:46:12 ... maybe? Oct 30 06:46:24 ITS FRIDAY! Oct 30 06:46:39 white and nerdy. Oct 30 06:46:53 emeb_mac: good idea Oct 30 06:47:15 harder better faster stronger. Oct 30 06:47:22 can i play with madness. Oct 30 06:47:46 LetoThe2nd: well you can to the right place Oct 30 06:47:49 *came Oct 30 06:48:10 mranostay: i know. /me votes for that tune becoming the official #beagle anthem. Oct 30 06:48:59 * mranostay pokes jkridner Oct 30 06:49:04 beagle... how about who let the dogs out. Oct 30 06:49:15 who who Oct 30 06:49:21 that is a horrible song Oct 30 06:49:26 wasn't when i was 13... Oct 30 06:51:17 emeb_mac: had to pull that up... godaweful :) Oct 30 06:51:37 no one _told_ you to do that. Oct 30 06:52:07 it is like picking at a scab. you know it isn't a good idea even at the time Oct 30 06:52:09 or "born to raise hell" Oct 30 06:52:59 and as that time of the year is approaching, another all-time christmas favorite: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_035zxlc2zBE/TPVVAARBdSI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/IiLBjdcLqrM/s1600/ace+of+spades+xmas.JPG Oct 30 06:54:38 LetoThe2nd: the ****? Oct 30 06:54:49 mranostay: hell yeah :) Oct 30 06:54:56 Mmmmm chumby Oct 30 06:54:59 or, in the spirit of the season: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0E0ynyIUsg Oct 30 06:55:55 emeb_mac: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwHEqx_3BYE Oct 30 06:56:38 LetoThe2nd: you completely skipped Halloween and Thanksgiving. Oct 30 06:58:34 emeb_mac: did i? for me, "born to raise hell" counts very well for helloween/all saints day, and here we have no such thing like "thanksgiving", as you have over there in the olde colonies. ;) Oct 30 06:58:58 LetoThe2nd: are you british? Oct 30 06:59:07 Josef doesn't seem it :) Oct 30 06:59:07 well, I'll give you AC/DC for Halloween. Oct 30 06:59:32 mranostay: not at all. that was a mere reference to some movie, don't know which one ATM. Oct 30 06:59:57 LetoThe2nd: german right? Oct 30 06:59:59 mranostay: i'm either bavarian or rakisian, pick whatever you like best. Oct 30 07:00:27 another seasonal favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtkdo7bOmJc Oct 30 07:01:36 LetoThe2nd: where in Germany you live? Oct 30 07:01:54 mranostay: ah if i remember correctly, i tried to cite "J.A.G", which serves very well as comedy ;) Oct 30 07:02:17 mranostay: google "bavaria" :) Oct 30 07:02:23 LetoThe2nd: cute :) Oct 30 07:02:42 mranostay: totally yes. Oct 30 07:02:45 <-- half german. don't let the surname fool you :) Oct 30 07:03:08 mranostay: which part of you? upper or lower half? Oct 30 07:03:59 LetoThe2nd: well part german. would have to check with family but north i think :) Oct 30 07:04:06 maybe he's right/left? Oct 30 07:04:14 isn't that the rotten grain place with all the purity standards? Oct 30 07:04:24 i'm the typical US citizen that has roots everywhere :) Oct 30 07:04:26 mranostay: not meant our heritage, meant your physics ;) Oct 30 07:04:45 ds2: ? Oct 30 07:05:10 LetoThe2nd: he is talking beer Oct 30 07:05:16 german from the waist down. If you know what I mean... Oct 30 07:05:26 mranostay: ah. Oct 30 07:05:37 mranostay: yeah, we have something called beer. Oct 30 07:05:41 emeb_mac: i get my alcohol tolerence from my german side i think :) Oct 30 07:05:52 and my slovak side doens't help :) Oct 30 07:06:27 * LetoThe2nd has developed a rather low alcohol tolerance over the last few years, especially in comparison with before... Oct 30 07:06:29 you have to an alcohol to enjoy polka :) Oct 30 07:06:35 *alcoholic Oct 30 07:19:33 Strudel! Oct 30 07:29:12 sick chumby is sick Oct 30 07:29:15 http://pastebin.com/Anz1QtuL Oct 30 07:30:11 bad SD card? Oct 30 07:32:22 It didn't look like it, I suppose I can try overwriting it with something Oct 30 07:41:50 * Russ locates some of those awesome hp probe wires mdp was talking about earlier Oct 30 07:41:52 http://www.ebay.com/itm/40-HP-Hewlett-Packard-Ground-Lead-Wire-With-Clip-or-Probe-/190723475286?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c68014756 Oct 30 07:44:12 bah, new image, no dice Oct 30 07:46:10 hmm...seems to be power related Oct 30 07:57:03 I got the power! Oct 30 07:58:49 av500: not rhythm is a dancer? Oct 30 07:59:33 the rythm divine! Oct 30 07:59:53 the infernal... erm, divine comedy ;) Oct 30 08:03:23 wonder if the electrolytics are bad Oct 30 08:07:52 Russ: they tasted bad? Oct 30 08:08:44 Hi! I'd like to use the RTC from tps65910. So far I found the driver and mfd driver, but the tps65910_board struct has no field for RTC. According to this thread http://support.criticallink.com/redmine/boards/28/topics/1999 there is still no real support for this RTC. Is anyone going to create this binding? Oct 30 08:10:38 * av500 cannot handle complex questions in the morning Oct 30 08:11:52 if there is a driver, is it not enough to just hook up the right i2c bus? Oct 30 08:19:45 av500: I fear it is not enough Oct 30 08:21:14 860mV might be a little low for a 3.3V rail Oct 30 08:21:18 av500: tps65910_board struct is not complete compared to tps6507x_board, that has touch screen controller Oct 30 08:26:17 Russ: gotta make do with what you have Oct 30 08:27:15 damn you freescale and your lack of documentation Oct 30 08:36:54 +1 Oct 30 08:38:25 not only that but their BSP's are also horible Oct 30 08:43:19 Hi ! I need to reflash u-boot on my BB, as it does not start after fresh flash. Is there a tool to reflash u-boot through X-loader, like the Windows/Flashutils tool from Texas ? Oct 30 08:44:46 bb or bb-xm? Oct 30 08:45:32 BB-XM Oct 30 08:45:53 rev C Oct 30 08:46:12 no flash Oct 30 08:46:15 boots from SD Oct 30 08:46:23 write a new sdcard and you are good Oct 30 08:46:29 ok. Oct 30 09:40:18 stupid wind Oct 30 09:50:55 hi Oct 30 11:43:12 LetoThe2nd: im confusered Oct 30 11:43:19 what is that ticket and how much? Oct 30 11:43:24 aint the social event free? Oct 30 11:43:55 av500: for us attendees, yes, but judging from the registration process they want 100$ for "guests" Oct 30 11:45:35 ah Oct 30 11:45:36 that Oct 30 11:45:38 I get it Oct 30 11:45:43 we will smuggle her in Oct 30 11:45:49 I'll bring a big overcoat Oct 30 11:46:04 did they check tickets in prague? Oct 30 11:46:08 * LetoThe2nd does not think that 100$ for one or two drinks and some food is adequate. Oct 30 11:46:13 nope, they did not there. Oct 30 11:46:21 * av500 had much more than 2 drinks last year Oct 30 11:46:25 and more then some food Oct 30 11:46:54 you also have multiple times size +weight of my $SO Oct 30 11:46:58 there is the special social event Oct 30 11:47:10 that everyone ays for, unless you can find a psonsor Oct 30 11:47:22 this was the one we skipped to go to the train place Oct 30 11:47:28 yes, the vip dinner Oct 30 11:47:51 on wednesday Oct 30 11:47:52 * LetoThe2nd fails to distinguish monday/tuesday anyways here: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference-europe/social-events Oct 30 11:48:04 VIP I will skip since i'll fly back then Oct 30 11:48:24 and monday/tuesday looks "free" to me Oct 30 11:48:37 you leave a day early? Oct 30 11:48:42 no Oct 30 11:48:45 wed evening Oct 30 11:48:51 ah yes Oct 30 11:48:54 I am confused Oct 30 11:49:02 I blame sandy Oct 30 11:49:15 heh Oct 30 11:49:28 we losta piece of a tree, but it fell in the road Oct 30 11:49:37 from that page it looks like mo/tu is free, yes. for attendees? Oct 30 11:49:40 so the town came over and cleaned it up, before i noticed Oct 30 11:49:45 right Oct 30 11:49:52 LetoThe2nd: yes Oct 30 11:50:04 LetoThe2nd: bring your badge from last year Oct 30 11:50:13 Iäll bring tippex Oct 30 11:50:15 i'll Oct 30 11:50:21 heh sounds like a plan Oct 30 11:50:57 Crofton|work: now sue the town to have it back! Oct 30 11:51:07 rofl Oct 30 13:01:41 hi mranostay Oct 30 13:02:17 jkridner knows his famous irc people Oct 30 13:02:32 jkridner: DST happened this weekend, is the call on now or in an hour? Oct 30 13:02:43 now Oct 30 13:04:35 thanks Oct 30 13:10:32 http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/angstrom-eglibc-x86_64-armv7a-v2012.05-toolchain.tar.bz2 Oct 30 13:56:52 Crofton|work: here, I found it: http://i.imgur.com/jqmqZ.jpg Oct 30 14:02:08 trolls are coming back online Oct 30 14:02:22 genny holding up? Oct 30 14:02:47 power good Oct 30 14:02:57 had to switch interwebs to 4g backup Oct 30 14:03:51 back to trolling Oct 30 14:04:43 puch Oct 30 14:05:15 interesting, you get the choise of 1 yellow or 2 red pictures: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6aQwG9CEAE44nh.jpg:large Oct 30 14:05:37 dont tell me the black things are plasma TVs... Oct 30 14:06:43 window shopping Oct 30 14:06:56 I posted the tree one on a freinds fb page Oct 30 14:07:02 he has a tree on top of his house Oct 30 14:07:09 in a very bad way Oct 30 14:07:15 ugh Oct 30 14:07:29 yeah Oct 30 14:07:46 gm Oct 30 14:07:53 my big trees are away from the house fortunately and we are perched on a hill Oct 30 14:08:07 but I know many around here with the old trees ready to fall Oct 30 14:08:11 we had part of a white pine go, but it fell in the road Oct 30 14:08:23 so the town cleaned it up before we noticed Oct 30 14:08:25 it's been raining for 4 days straight before this so the ground is saturated Oct 30 14:09:16 my young dependents are mostly devastated about the brief interwebs outage this morning Oct 30 14:09:23 think of the children! Oct 30 14:10:19 Crofton|work: more fuel to our argument here that nothing good ever comes to us via the East or West coasts ;) Oct 30 14:10:37 rofl Oct 30 14:11:47 :) Oct 30 14:13:58 well, I'm just sayin'... Oct 30 14:14:40 mdp: where are you anyway? Oct 30 14:14:55 Crofton|work: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aNPOfmGW17w/UI8zuRYknNI/AAAAAAAA-FE/I5eX_BCBvXU/s584/GangnamStyleOceanView.gif Oct 30 14:15:10 av500, northeast ohio..closest city of note is Cleveland Oct 30 14:15:21 mdp: ohai, I see Oct 30 14:15:35 koen: +1 Oct 30 14:15:51 https://plus.google.com/105710891309622891681/posts/AFL37wrgYF3 Oct 30 14:15:59 original post Oct 30 14:16:26 lol Oct 30 14:19:10 oooh, my stellaris launchpads finally shipped Oct 30 14:19:24 * mdp eagerly awaits a new distraction Oct 30 14:19:39 grr Oct 30 14:19:42 mine did not Oct 30 14:19:51 always ti peeps get them early Oct 30 14:19:59 yeah, right Oct 30 14:20:51 I once sampled a TI part…autofill plugged in my company name…and I got a nastygram on internal mail... Oct 30 14:21:13 which was ok when I mentioned it was for personal use and I accidentally had TI land in the company name Oct 30 14:21:29 :) Oct 30 14:21:30 so they must have some automated red flags on the sampling system..impressive Oct 30 14:21:55 checkAllSamplesForMDP Oct 30 14:22:14 yes, studlyCaps and all Oct 30 14:22:51 I always put my company details for all my private samples :) Oct 30 14:23:08 that works better for you ;) Oct 30 14:23:16 gets shipped to work too Oct 30 14:23:51 mdp: but then, you can always walk down to manufacturing and pluck a part from the assembly line...... Oct 30 14:23:53 I'm sure people wonder why "Silicon Valley Enterprises" has an address in Ohio. Oct 30 14:24:48 av500, are you implying that you have local manufacturing at your site? Oct 30 14:25:29 mdp, it used to be the norm Oct 30 14:25:39 panto, well, I know that ;) Oct 30 14:25:43 it's awesome when it works, really bad when it doesn't :) Oct 30 14:25:57 the operative phrase is "used to be the norm" Oct 30 14:26:03 inthe 70s :) Oct 30 14:26:29 who knows? with all those new-fangled 3d printing & auto pick & place machines, it might come back Oct 30 14:26:48 there's something about having your design getting real in a few hours after conception Oct 30 14:26:49 at the moto division that made the mac clones…that ended up being the last product made on site. Oct 30 14:27:06 for that era, it was a state of the art automated line..in the same building as engr Oct 30 14:27:36 panto: I expect 3d stuff to be build at the customers home in the end :) Oct 30 14:28:17 this may be another flying car Oct 30 14:28:33 you don't have a flying car? Oct 30 14:28:45 * mdp shakes his cane at alan_o Oct 30 14:29:29 people have flying trees at least Oct 30 14:29:38 this we can do! Oct 30 14:29:41 yes we can! Oct 30 14:30:30 yes, we cancan Oct 30 14:32:27 aha, my friend is here Oct 30 14:32:31 welcome mdp_, clone of mdp Oct 30 14:32:43 indicating that highspeed interwebs has returned to the heartland Oct 30 14:35:59 panto, of the horrors, being forced to communicate over slow 4g Oct 30 14:36:04 s/of/oh/ Oct 30 14:37:07 Slow? That t-mobile girl on the motorcycle looks like she's going fast Oct 30 14:37:18 4g _must_ be fast Oct 30 14:37:57 does she have stripes? Oct 30 14:37:58 not the tmobile version...at least not here ;) Oct 30 14:38:25 mru: a leather go-fast suit, but I'm not sure about stripes Oct 30 14:42:17 alan_o: this one has stripes: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T_ltQVOIBNM/UIzrg4MnMwI/AAAAAAAAO30/Iy2mMPWLWJc/s0 Oct 30 14:42:47 mru: :) Oct 30 14:42:57 mru, did you have a particular trolling theme today? Oct 30 14:46:08 * mdp compares cubieboard to the worst kept sekrit in beagleland Oct 30 14:46:49 sata is the difference Oct 30 14:47:02 and the SoC Oct 30 14:47:07 its winning Oct 30 14:47:08 ;) Oct 30 14:47:10 lol Oct 30 14:47:28 av500, shall we review the A10 TRM again together? Oct 30 14:48:54 "Just curious, the specs says it´s an A8 processor, but on the picture it says A10?" Oct 30 14:49:18 it's 2 more for same price Oct 30 14:49:51 poor apple..stuck with the crappy Cortex-A6 Oct 30 14:50:15 "Next step up from the Raspberry Pi" Oct 30 14:51:16 I'm looking forward to an Archos product based on a winner Oct 30 14:53:39 * av500 has some on his desk Oct 30 14:54:22 mmmm Oct 30 14:55:04 maybe they'll put AllwinnerWare in ROM in the next gen Oct 30 14:57:02 av500, btw, since it's taken so long to get our launchpads, now all the linux host tools are in place so no messing around...lm4tools and openocd work now. Oct 30 14:57:08 cool Oct 30 14:57:12 please send exact steps Oct 30 14:57:48 can they autoconvert my CCS2.5 projects? Oct 30 14:57:53 I confess, I leverage this guy who knows how to do this stuff Oct 30 14:58:06 hehe Oct 30 14:58:24 * av500 admits to have used CCS 10ys ago Oct 30 14:59:04 when I first started here, I was doing customer support and people were using CCS..and I felt bad I had to keep telling the FAEs that they needed to translate into CCSisms Oct 30 14:59:08 * av500 wonders if that parallel port JTAG is still supported... Oct 30 14:59:28 XDS510pp Oct 30 14:59:34 cool Oct 30 14:59:52 we have like tons of these Oct 30 14:59:53 maybe you can try that on my future parport_gpio driver ;) Oct 30 15:00:32 http://e2e.ti.com/support/development_tools/code_composer_studio/f/81/t/88012.aspx Oct 30 15:00:36 doh, ti is so mean!!! Oct 30 15:00:44 I had to set that aside for this 6502 hack, but I do really want to use my digilent parport programming cable from the bone Oct 30 15:01:59 av500, sounds like a useless project for you...support it in openocd Oct 30 15:03:05 openocd supports xds100v2? Oct 30 15:03:21 if I ever find it again Oct 30 15:03:22 yes, there was a cfg for it at one point Oct 30 15:03:52 I was hacking it up one day trying to get the l138 evm's onboard 100v1 working with it Oct 30 15:05:01 damn, cant fine it :( Oct 30 15:05:29 get organized! Oct 30 15:11:52 did someone say CCS... CCS id da SHIT Oct 30 15:12:33 mdp u work for TI ? Oct 30 15:13:16 yeah Oct 30 15:13:48 can you please solve my non compliant mpeg2 problem :( ? Oct 30 15:13:58 maybe ' push' it up the chain or something Oct 30 15:14:05 my doctor doesn't allow me to use CCS as it exceeds my java dosage for the day Oct 30 15:14:11 and tell me why you guys lie etc? :(? Oct 30 15:14:21 arcanescu: I work for the other TI Oct 30 15:14:30 there's several TIs Oct 30 15:14:32 there is another TI ? Oct 30 15:14:40 dammnit wasnt one enough for the world Oct 30 15:14:55 which 'TI' do you work for? Oct 30 15:14:57 you sound like you want to vent at the OMAP TI Oct 30 15:15:05 mdp: noooo Oct 30 15:15:09 catalog Oct 30 15:15:09 is it a bit like KFC - > AFC -> TFC? Oct 30 15:15:11 some mpeg2 encoder Oct 30 15:15:40 Alan Fried Chicken ... exact replica of kfc yummmmm Oct 30 15:15:50 I like the sound of that.... Oct 30 15:15:54 arcanescu: sales people in general lie in order to hit a commission gate to afford new toys Oct 30 15:15:58 next question? Oct 30 15:16:15 mdp: its a fundamental problem dm365 encoder.... needs to be sorted Oct 30 15:16:25 oh, *that* TI Oct 30 15:16:46 unfortunately I don't know people in that TI Oct 30 15:16:48 do you work for **that** TI ? Oct 30 15:16:59 ): Oct 30 15:17:47 there's the MSP430, Stellaris, AM, DM, and OMAP TIs Oct 30 15:18:05 in my experience, they are like separate companies Oct 30 15:18:38 some of which will be seeling books soon Oct 30 15:18:41 selling Oct 30 15:18:43 I heard Oct 30 15:18:57 maybe not the msp guys Oct 30 15:19:01 mdp: What about TI-92 TI? Oct 30 15:19:04 can you book them? Oct 30 15:19:11 what about TI calculators? Oct 30 15:19:11 alan_o, another TI, yes Oct 30 15:19:23 mdp: so do they make the most profit? Oct 30 15:19:29 alan_o, everybody I know locally assumes I work on calculators Oct 30 15:19:45 haha Oct 30 15:19:53 obligatory: http://xkcd.com/768/ Oct 30 15:19:55 calculators them things are lovely Oct 30 15:19:56 mdp: or DLP Oct 30 15:20:23 DLP is too obscure of a technology for normal people to notice it any longer Oct 30 15:20:39 "normal people" ;) Oct 30 15:21:19 the guy next to me in the train was using DLP to speed up blood coagulation Oct 30 15:21:32 in the train? Oct 30 15:21:46 av500: trailers on iron roads Oct 30 15:22:02 yes, I mean, we have that here, but not so much blood Oct 30 15:22:07 people behave Oct 30 15:22:15 ah, I see what you mean Oct 30 15:22:28 here, stick that pico into the wound and press firmly Oct 30 15:22:30 the DLP itself was in the hospital lab Oct 30 15:22:52 the guy was heading towards brussels to lobby for more funding Oct 30 15:23:25 alan_o: Looks like the 1.8" spi display can be use to emulate a ti83+ Oct 30 15:23:28 hrm, we have those trailers for iron roads in museums here Oct 30 15:23:43 you have the rock island line Oct 30 15:24:26 * mdp notes that mass transit shuts down for a little storm like sandy, but personal vehicles keep chugging along to their death. Oct 30 15:25:09 koen: I think mdp is working on bit-banging a TI-83 Oct 30 15:26:18 alan_o, what you bitbang is less important than just the natural state of bitbanging Oct 30 15:26:48 certain types of bitbanging are less socially acceptable too Oct 30 15:26:57 such as rpi userspace bitbanging Oct 30 15:27:25 there's a sociology thesis here for somebody, btw Oct 30 15:27:27 oh, no doubt about it. Like when I do it, it's smart and necessary..... Oct 30 15:27:35 right Oct 30 15:27:38 when RPi users do it, it's n00bish Oct 30 15:27:59 * av500 only bangs organic bits Oct 30 15:28:01 when you bitbang using the PRU, it's praised as the highest contribution to society Oct 30 15:28:05 Mabye someone with a dual-major EE and sociology could write that paper Oct 30 15:28:28 alan_o, I shall consult the pool of 3 people world-wise with that dual-major Oct 30 15:28:33 That's cause PRU is 1337, man Oct 30 15:28:34 s/wise/wide/ Oct 30 15:29:14 alan_o, yes, it's because it's a hidden and secretive peripheral...you're told not to touch and thus it becomes an object of desire Oct 30 15:29:14 mdp: wise too Oct 30 15:30:40 yes, and mru guards the bridge asking questions..... Oct 30 15:30:57 about swallows ? Oct 30 15:31:05 * mdp writes his favorite color on his arm Oct 30 15:31:20 arm7? Oct 30 15:31:24 hehe Oct 30 15:31:36 arm11, the good one Oct 30 15:32:00 oh, more specifically arm11 mpcore ;) Oct 30 15:49:15 I need an intern Oct 30 15:49:19 +1 Oct 30 15:49:40 keep away from the ones in a blue dress Oct 30 15:50:08 It's funny how it's hard to say "intern" anymore without giggling.... Oct 30 16:06:13 alan_o: i'm doubting you are rich or famous enough to pull that off :) Oct 30 16:06:19 no offense Oct 30 16:06:46 rich or famous enough to hire an intern? Oct 30 16:06:58 alan_o: well the clinton type intern :) Oct 30 16:07:21 Hey, it's panto who has the dirty mind...... Oct 30 16:07:28 I want a kernel build-boy Oct 30 16:07:41 "make me this kernel with this patch set.... ready, go" Oct 30 16:07:43 yes he is a crude and evil person :) Oct 30 16:07:48 guilty as charged Oct 30 16:09:31 I am neither Rich or Famous and I have an Intern... Oct 30 16:10:19 I wish unpaid internships were the norm in engineering, like they are in media. Oct 30 16:10:53 I didn't used to feel that way... hard to imagine why :) Oct 30 16:11:51 alan_o, why? Oct 30 16:12:25 Well... I used to be a kid in college, now I want to hire a kid in college. Oct 30 16:21:46 alan_o: you've gone full circle Oct 30 16:26:40 can someone tell me the différence with u-boot and u-boot.bin binaries. is u-boot.bin reserved to u-boot flashing and u-boot for TI flashutils ? Oct 30 16:27:07 alan_o, I've thought of hiring an intern to do my work for me..I mean, not my employer hiring them, just contracted with me directly Oct 30 16:28:16 mdp: I have pondered the same Oct 30 16:28:19 mdp: sneaky Oct 30 16:28:40 mdp: just put all their hours on your timesheet..... Oct 30 16:28:50 mdp worked 100 hours this week! Oct 30 16:29:11 O_O Oct 30 16:31:00 mdp: that does exists it's called outsourcing :) Oct 30 16:31:43 I get calls about that all the time Oct 30 16:32:27 I asked how much.... they said 15-20/h for C++ developers in India. Oct 30 16:33:00 I wonder how much the worker gets. There's a lot of money in being the middle-man. Oct 30 16:33:14 alan_o: you can get a college kid for that rate Oct 30 16:33:15 Just look at how linkedin is saturated with headhunters. Oct 30 16:33:34 yeah but mranostay, these aren't college kids, these are professionals. Oct 30 16:34:03 professional college kids Oct 30 16:34:15 I knew some of them in college Oct 30 16:34:53 This one guy was rumored to be in Intro to Discrete Structures for the 7th time. One day he took a picture of the lecture notes projected onto the wall..... with a flash. Oct 30 16:35:05 mru: how goes the trolling? Oct 30 16:37:49 to clarify, when I said, "I knew some of them in college" I was referring to mru's statement about "professional college kids," not "C++ developers in India." Let the record show.... Oct 30 16:43:26 bizulk: I'm trying to avoid using that term..."my intern" seems more acceptable...I will be giving them valuable experience (at a fraction of my salary) Oct 30 16:44:05 That's right, you're creating jobs Oct 30 16:44:38 I could be the hero of the rust belt Oct 30 16:44:56 this is easy to rationalize Oct 30 16:45:06 sounds good to me Oct 30 16:49:13 rebooting to fresh kernel... Let's see how long until I'm back up... Oct 30 16:52:04 first try this time... usually I forget something Oct 30 17:13:05 oh dear newegg, what have you done Oct 30 17:13:38 'shop halloween - eggnam style', 'p-p-p-peripherals' Oct 30 17:14:04 Russ, we demand a new meme! Oct 30 17:18:49 is it just me, or does the new A-57 logo look like a hurricane? Oct 30 17:21:42 Russ, awkward... Oct 30 17:21:58 too soon? Oct 30 17:22:28 its just so you know its awesome power Oct 30 17:23:30 and so you don't forget the possible cloud applications of the core Oct 30 17:24:17 at least it isn't like intel is picking today to release sandy bridge Oct 30 17:24:48 Russ: What, calm and powerless? Oct 30 17:24:59 (re: the core) Oct 30 17:27:16 no, that it'll flood your datacenter Oct 30 17:30:48 But the core of a hurricane is basically dead. Oct 30 17:33:33 I feel like I'm in a marketing meeting Oct 30 17:37:56 are there mirrors of the images linked in http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone#Image_Files somewhere? downloading the 09_12_2012 image from there, at is running at 6KB/s with an eta of 16 hours Oct 30 17:40:11 hiredman, damn you sandy! (easy one to blame) Oct 30 17:40:39 sure, but a mirror (maybe on s3) would be nice Oct 30 17:41:05 google search of the image produces nothing Oct 30 17:41:17 yeah, I know, I tried Oct 30 17:41:30 koen: ping Oct 30 17:41:31 s3 will even host torrents of files Oct 30 17:41:38 http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~yoder/Beagle/ Oct 30 17:41:42 slighty outdated Oct 30 17:42:11 if my download ever completes I'll put it on s3 Oct 30 17:42:20 and not the fasted, only around 400kB/s, but still faster that 6kB/s Oct 30 17:42:26 er, fastest Oct 30 17:42:53 I am in the middle of a comunication of whoever is at the other end of the beaglebone rma process, and they asked me to try the latest from the wiki Oct 30 17:43:00 with whoever Oct 30 17:43:15 it might be a while Oct 30 17:43:44 no hurry I guess, just let wget do it's thing Oct 30 19:29:43 mikey_w: how did an N6 get to be in Va? Oct 30 19:38:19 <_av500_> yo Oct 30 19:50:56 ho Oct 30 19:51:19 mo Oct 30 20:03:15 no Oct 30 20:04:47 oh? Oct 30 20:07:23 ro Oct 30 20:08:06 not a word Oct 30 20:14:14 yes Oct 30 20:16:08 si Oct 30 20:17:18 oy? Oct 30 20:26:23 pfft Oct 30 21:04:02 " screen `ls /dev/{tty.usb*B,beaglebone-serial}` 115200" <--- can't exec 115200. I see this serial command in a few places online but the syntax looks wrong and it has failed on multiple distros for me... Oct 30 21:06:50 perhaps replace the {} portion with your actual device ? Oct 30 21:07:04 ok Oct 30 21:07:56 same with " screen `ls /dev/{tty.usb*B,beaglebone-serial}` 115200" Oct 30 21:08:04 correction, Oct 30 21:08:24 same with screen `ls /dev/{tty.usb1}` 115200 Oct 30 21:09:00 jago25_98: try "screen /dev/tty.usb1 115200" Oct 30 21:09:01 try screen /dev/ttyusb1 115200 then Oct 30 21:09:04 Ah "Sorry, could not find a pty" Oct 30 21:09:31 err with the . in there Oct 30 21:10:36 Ok, mine's ttyUSB0 & ttyUSB1 but conecting to both of those gives me "Sorry couldn't find a PTY". Do I need to buy a jtag? Oct 30 21:13:23 I was hoping I wouldn't need to get to O/S working level to use the serial interface? Oct 30 21:15:04 mac? Oct 30 21:16:07 mac address? Oct 30 21:16:12 of the beaglebone? Oct 30 21:16:26 no, are you using a mac? Oct 30 21:17:19 no, linux. Had to give up on the Windows USB driver Oct 30 21:17:26 ah, permissions Oct 30 21:18:07 why not just use minicom if you're only using a serial terminal Oct 30 21:18:45 ok. minicom is windows though? And I couldn't get the Windows fdti driver to install Oct 30 21:19:07 minicom is linux Oct 30 21:19:47 ah, ok :-) now we're getting somewhere. I'll try that Oct 30 21:32:47 koen: hey hey Oct 30 21:34:25 can't figure out how to get minicom to go connect online... Oct 30 21:37:06 just "offline" in centre of minicom Oct 30 21:38:23 Must be some sort of problem with the beaglebone :/ Oct 30 21:38:48 mdp: hehe went by cco today and saw thousands and thousand of beaglebones getting assembled and tested, hehe Oct 30 21:40:21 No suggestions? Can't even give me a pointer as to how low level /dev/ttyUSB0 or USB1 is? Guess I clutch at straws and rewrite the sdcard image Oct 30 21:41:15 to configure it start with sudo minicom -s Oct 30 21:41:43 the do the serial port setup Oct 30 21:41:47 *then Oct 30 21:42:30 done that. I'm just getting no activity on /dev/ttyUSB0 or 1 as root user, whether I use minicom or screen Oct 30 21:43:10 just a green light on the bage Oct 30 21:43:15 *beaglebone Oct 30 21:43:23 hmm, have you ejected the device that it mounts? Oct 30 21:43:43 no device mounted; linux Oct 30 21:52:11 Did you connect to /dev/ttyUSB0 or 1? Oct 30 22:19:34 Darn shame I have to do this to get to the Ubuntu iage Oct 30 22:19:34 *image Oct 30 22:22:54 I'd really like to know whether the image has to be working in order to get the serial console Oct 30 22:25:12 such simple questions... would be so helpful if I had some answers Oct 30 22:25:22 in the manual especially Oct 30 22:26:41 dunno, I use a custom board originally based on the beagle classic these days Oct 30 22:27:19 What do you do in the case of that board? Did you find that you required a working O/S on it to use the serial interface? Oct 30 22:27:44 I have no idea what you are asking Oct 30 22:28:37 Is /dev/ttyUSB0 reliant on Angstrom or whatever operating system on the Beaglebone is working? Oct 30 22:29:01 nope,it will print out a code even without a card in the slot when it boots Oct 30 22:29:23 are you asking about the device file, the drivers, the registers, the physical port, what? Oct 30 22:29:35 MLO and uboot will likewise print something to console, I don't know what it is in the case of the bone Oct 30 22:30:10 ah thanks :-) That helps me a little bit, since I am getting no output at all on /dev/ttyUSB0 or 1 Oct 30 22:30:35 are you talking about the port on the host side then Oct 30 22:31:20 yes Oct 30 22:31:42 115200n8? Oct 30 22:31:57 yes, usig that baud speed Oct 30 22:32:22 and you have an sd card in it, with u-boot and mlo? Oct 30 22:32:23 yet... no output to minicom Oct 30 22:33:06 Russ: does the bone output the cpu boot code similar to the classic and xM? Oct 30 22:33:09 yes. I'm using a Ubuntu image. They set it up with a 75mb partition with those files and a root fs too Oct 30 22:33:30 thurbad, the problem is, that when the bone power cycles, you lose the serial port Oct 30 22:33:40 so its hard to catch the boot code, especially with minicom Oct 30 22:33:40 ah Oct 30 22:33:47 ah Oct 30 22:34:17 its also really easy to think minicom has the port open, but doesn't if the device file went away and minicom is being bad, newer versions seem to have improved behavior in this respect Oct 30 22:38:52 minicom reports as offline. perhaps minicom is being bad... Oct 30 22:39:57 do either of the /dev/ttyUSB devices go away when you unplug the bone? Oct 30 22:40:02 yes Oct 30 22:40:09 I'm going to try gtkterm now Oct 30 22:40:43 are you running minicom with root permission? Oct 30 22:41:30 without it, it probably cannot open the tty device Oct 30 22:43:10 yes. Running as root. gtkterm is iving more info - "Device /dev/ttyUSB1 is locked" Oct 30 22:43:20 same after replug Oct 30 22:43:20 as root Oct 30 22:45:02 We now have /dev/ttyUSB1 & 2 instead. 1 is locked but 2 is free, only with no output Oct 30 22:46:34 what does sudo lsof /dev/ttyUSB1 show? Oct 30 22:46:38 if anything? Oct 30 22:47:23 ah! minicom is locking it out still. must have crashed. will kill Oct 30 22:47:48 This is why I use screen. Oct 30 22:47:55 Much more responsive than minicom. Oct 30 22:48:12 And does not particularly care iof the dev node goes away. Oct 30 22:48:20 Still no output though. Just a blank screen. Same with minicom, gtkterm and screen Oct 30 22:48:55 bits are 8, partity is none Oct 30 22:49:09 flow control is off? Oct 30 22:50:12 yes Oct 30 22:50:14 "none" Oct 30 22:53:17 do you see a welcome to minicom screenwhen you run minicom? Oct 30 22:54:20 and when you said you were running as root did you mean su or sudo? Oct 30 22:54:41 sudo Oct 30 22:54:46 ok Oct 30 22:54:47 Try real root. Oct 30 22:56:49 same with su. I do have welcome to minicom Oct 30 22:57:35 can't login direct as root on this box Oct 30 22:57:58 sudo su should doit if you really want to Oct 30 22:58:16 ok Oct 30 22:58:37 not sure if it will actually gain you anything Oct 30 22:59:13 still no output... beginning to think I've bricked it somehow Oct 30 22:59:39 do you have lights? Oct 30 23:01:30 one green light Oct 30 23:01:48 jago25_98: Does the bone boot successfully into the image on the SD card? Oct 30 23:02:30 agmlego: I don't know... I have no output to be able to tell Oct 30 23:03:36 soyou don't even know if the SD was configured properly? Oct 30 23:03:48 no change in the lights either... I would guess that it isn't booting into anything Oct 30 23:04:00 jago25_98: Well, when it comes up, it should request a DHCP lease from the local router on its ethernet port. Wait for a while, and see what lease it grabbed, then SSH into it from there. Oct 30 23:05:28 exactly. all I can say is that the sdcard looks ok. I'm trying to switch to the Ubuntu image (had missing /etc files problem with angstrom) and there's no docs to tell me if that image is setup to get an IP automatically or not Oct 30 23:05:32 do you still have the reference card? Oct 30 23:06:20 I can't fid where I put my backup, so I've been downloading the angstrom image again for the past hour but it's very slow on that one mirror Oct 30 23:06:36 should have bought another sdcard Oct 30 23:08:50 most likely the board is fine the card is just configured incorrectly Oct 30 23:10:13 yeah. Guess I'll fall back to Angstrom. Just hope I don't get those missing /etc file problems again Oct 30 23:11:07 did you do an opkg upgrade or something on angstrom? Oct 30 23:11:51 yes Oct 30 23:11:58 ... yeah, don't Oct 30 23:12:17 you need to do opkg update, avoid upgade Oct 30 23:12:18 ah! guess I missed that on the mailing list archives! Oct 30 23:12:49 so opkg update isn't the same as apt-get upgrade on debian Oct 30 23:13:11 No. Oct 30 23:13:12 opkg != apt Oct 30 23:13:56 it tries to upgrade every package that you have, I've never seen it work right though Oct 30 23:15:41 there's usually some package that is partially upgraded but not finished that is a dependency for something in progress which fails Oct 30 23:16:48 hmm... I guess angstrom is always going to be out of date then... this is no good. I was hoping to use the beaglebone as a general purpose server that I can add home automatation to at a later date if I need or use for other projects. Guess I'll have to look into the long Sabayron route Oct 30 23:17:01 since the Ubuntu demo image isn't workin Oct 30 23:17:21 I really think there should be something more low level for debugging this situation Oct 30 23:17:58 perhaps I should have bought a beagleboard and added a arduino later on Oct 30 23:20:22 Beagleboard has GPIO... Oct 30 23:20:31 now you're talking Oct 30 23:20:42 As does the Pandaboard. Oct 30 23:22:00 jago25_98: you are running into some common misconceptions about what a development board like the beagle/panda/arduino can do as well as how they are organized Oct 30 23:23:18 it's sort of a universal pitfall for embedded systems running linux Oct 30 23:23:49 Also, what do you mean by "general purpose server"? Oct 30 23:23:58 if you're looking for a server it's probably not the right platform Oct 30 23:24:02 Mailserver? Webserver? Fileserver? Compute server? Oct 30 23:24:19 Active Driectory Domain Controller? Oct 30 23:24:51 RTTY transmitter? Oct 30 23:25:09 Spark-Gap transmitter? Oct 30 23:25:18 First time Angstrom user, how do I add/configure Angstrom OPKG repositories(feeds, yes?). I'm looking specifically for the jack audio daemon. The package is listed on http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/, but I do not see it when GREPping $opkg list Oct 30 23:25:19 development board doesn't sound like a turnkey appliance to me Oct 30 23:25:33 mdp: indeed Oct 30 23:26:05 nestor opkg update is the first step Oct 30 23:26:15 there's several consumer nas providers that make turnkey servers Oct 30 23:26:31 thurbad: yes, of course. Did that, let me see if it complained. Oct 30 23:30:12 prpplague: i'm sure the FCC wouldn't have an issue with that :) Oct 30 23:30:22 thurbad updated with no complaints, still not seeing jack with $ opkg list | grep "jack" Oct 30 23:31:04 what would you recommend as a better general purpose server? Oct 30 23:31:25 jago25_98: you need to provide more details as to what you want to do Oct 30 23:31:28 which release are you using? Oct 30 23:31:59 jago25_98: based on what you said, beagle is probably good for you, but you need to understand how an OS makes things different than something like the arduino Oct 30 23:33:41 nestor do you have that smart quote in the grep string? Oct 30 23:34:01 or was that added by your irc client? Oct 30 23:34:21 I've tried it with or without the quotes. Oct 30 23:34:50 OK. Shopping list was: Essential - low power, cheap, can run things like a personal webserver, bittorrent. Useful - i/o ports for monitoring, run off usb, run off battery. Really a beaglebone should be able to do it. I originally ordered a Pi but it never arrived and I really didn't need the graphics support Oct 30 23:34:54 opkg list | grep jack gives results here Oct 30 23:35:03 Linux beaglebone 3.2.28 #1 Tue Sep 11 13:08:30 CEST 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux Oct 30 23:35:19 The difference is I figured, a beaglebone will continue to be useful for other purposes in the future Oct 30 23:35:28 jago25_98: yea, different set of functions you have listed there Oct 30 23:35:53 jago25_98: although you can run a webserver or bittorrent from bone, it really isn't designed for that type of application per se Oct 30 23:35:56 thurbad: opkg list | grep jack does not work for me, opkg list | grep python gives results. Oct 30 23:36:21 jago25_98: and the RPi is most certainly not up to the task either Oct 30 23:37:34 jago25_98: my personal suggestion(and feel free to disagree or provide other comments for those in the channel), you should probably find a cheap PC, and practice/learn how to use linux in general..... Oct 30 23:37:45 thurbad: I've got a line: src/gz beaglebone http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.05/ipk/eglibc/armv7a/machine/beaglebone in /etc/opkg/beaglebone-feed.conf Oct 30 23:39:05 prpplague, jago25_98 : have no Idea what the original question was, but I've been using Linux for a WHILE and beagle bone may not be the best place to start. Oct 30 23:39:35 nestor: which is pretty much what i said, hehe Oct 30 23:39:39 I've got about 6 PCs in the house. All power hungry so I'm trying not to use them. Gentoo on a 1ghz job, Sabayron on another and NetBSD on a old 486. I'd much rather have one beaglebone that can potentially monitor things in the home and interct with sensors and I/O with much less power use and less space used up Oct 30 23:40:01 prpplague yes, just seconding you. Oct 30 23:40:02 perhaps the jack isn't supported on the bone? Oct 30 23:40:06 plus the fans on these old systems are really annoying Oct 30 23:40:13 and unreliable Oct 30 23:40:19 jago25_98: do you know how to accomplish all of what you want to do on one of those now? Oct 30 23:40:26 well, what about adding the generic arm package repo? Oct 30 23:41:03 thumbed aren't you seeing it on your beaglebone? Oct 30 23:41:03 that may lead to inconsistencies in you libraries Oct 30 23:41:43 nestor I've got a classic beagleboard, not the bone Oct 30 23:41:49 AH! Oct 30 23:42:23 Okay, so I've got to go about building things. Are there no third-party repos? It may be easier to go with a debian for my purpose. Oct 30 23:42:30 prpplague: I've had them running these things before... trying cut down on space and power while adding the possibility of I/O Oct 30 23:43:07 jago25_98: well... if you know how to do it on an x86 box, there is no major difference than doing it on the beagle Oct 30 23:44:18 the major difference is the how up to date the OS itself is Oct 30 23:44:37 I thought that... but this Ubuntu image isn't playing ball, Angstrom... imho is disappointing, and the USB serial interface requires the O/S t obe working before it's of much use; not very low level. To be honest I didn't expect all of these problems Oct 30 23:45:25 jago25_98: well it sounds like you are used to using full blown distros and not digging into the 'guts' of things Oct 30 23:45:26 If I can get a ssh'able Sabyron or ubuntu or big distro working I'll be good to go... just turning out to be a major ballache Oct 30 23:45:37 that's rigt Oct 30 23:45:44 jago25_98: do you understand the issue with your statement? Oct 30 23:45:50 If I can get a ssh'able Sabyron or ubuntu or big distro working I'll be good to go... just turning out to be a major ballache Oct 30 23:46:11 jago25_98: development boards such as the beagle are not designed for "big distro" Oct 30 23:46:17 yeah I see what you mean, I'm bypassing the poit of beagleboard with that :D Oct 30 23:46:25 jago25_98: normally you would customize the system to fit your needs Oct 30 23:47:00 angstrom should be able to do a lot but the upgrade process being broken has put me off Oct 30 23:47:26 shame there's no a SDcard image on ebay Oct 30 23:47:45 why upgrade? a good angstrom build should have pretty much everything you need, as long as you select it Oct 30 23:48:17 running a server; security Oct 30 23:48:47 also relevent for bitcoin projects Oct 30 23:49:00 * prpplague things jago25_98 is not familiar with embedded development, hehe Oct 30 23:49:11 yup Oct 30 23:49:23 closest I got was openwrt etc Oct 30 23:49:24 there are probably images out there that aren't stored on the the angstrom-distribution server Oct 30 23:49:53 yes, I could only find the Ubuntu one and this has been the one that has been so difficult to diag Oct 30 23:51:35 meh special comp only has demo OS's on sd cards Oct 30 23:51:57 plus they charge too much IMO Oct 30 23:53:16 I guess I should go through http://wiki.sabayon.org/index.php?title=Hitchhikers_Guide_to_the_BeagleBone_%28and_ARMv7a%29 to get a better understanding Oct 30 23:54:46 I generally try setting up the card with just MLO/u-boot before adding the rootfs stuff, so that I don't waste time with a misconfigured card Oct 30 23:55:14 I assume that's still valid advice with the bone Oct 30 23:59:36 thurbad: had to change my base repo: http://pastebin.com/TLdqNQvF Oct 30 23:59:43 jago25_98: http://en.opensuse.org/BeagleBoard-xM :) Oct 31 00:00:22 jago25_98: oh - you got the bone? nvm then :) Oct 31 01:13:03 * mdp reads up on exynos 5 and discovers it's as well documented as allwinner a10 Oct 31 01:45:37 anyone know if there is a package in opkg that will give be timeoverlay for gstreamer? Oct 31 02:30:53 mdp: that name... Oct 31 02:37:30 mranostay, yes, yes, say it! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 31 02:59:58 2012