**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 09 02:59:58 2012
Nov 09 04:19:56 <Russ> please don't move scalex to usc
Nov 09 04:19:59 <Russ> we'll all get shot
Nov 09 04:50:59 <ds2> heh... takes on a new meaning when tell someone to go outside ;)
Nov 09 05:05:44 <Russ> I would be up for a venue change to irvine though
Nov 09 05:06:26 <ds2> I concur
Nov 09 06:43:00 * trelane notes that for those hacking digital inputs in linux, inotify-tools is your friend
Nov 09 07:39:36 <mranostay> morning
Nov 09 08:22:27 <KotH> moin
Nov 09 08:22:35 <KotH> av500: i'm here for another two days
Nov 09 09:21:52 <av500> KotH: ah, I see
Nov 09 09:21:54 <av500> have fun
Nov 09 09:21:56 <av500> dont get mugged
Nov 09 10:15:09 <KotH> av500: would you mug a terrorist?
Nov 09 10:24:23 <woglinde> gm av500
Nov 09 10:25:12 <woglinde> gm koth
Nov 09 10:27:54 <KotH> moin!
Nov 09 10:27:58 <KotH> gut geschlafen?
Nov 09 10:28:09 <woglinde> yes
Nov 09 10:28:18 <av500> 1h delay on the end on the train
Nov 09 10:28:31 <woglinde> av500 only one?
Nov 09 10:28:32 <av500> I should be able to claim some money...
Nov 09 10:28:38 <KotH> it's DB, anything below 1h would be exceptional ;)
Nov 09 10:28:41 <woglinde> did the run twice as fast later?
Nov 09 10:31:11 * KotH wonders why so many people want to run virtualization on non-host cpus
Nov 09 10:31:28 <av500> ?
Nov 09 10:31:54 <KotH> people are working on getting kvm running on ppc, a15, mips,...
Nov 09 10:32:14 <av500> sure
Nov 09 10:32:46 <dm8tbr> a15 is in the chromebook. it makes sense
Nov 09 10:32:46 <woglinde> and running xen on arm
Nov 09 10:32:55 <KotH> samsung is even working on getting kvm working on arm devices that do not support a hypervisor!
Nov 09 10:33:21 <dm8tbr> KotH: you saw the talk at 9?
Nov 09 10:33:31 <KotH> dm8tbr: which one?
Nov 09 10:33:34 <KotH> dm8tbr: ova?
Nov 09 10:33:40 <KotH> dm8tbr: kvm on arm?
Nov 09 10:33:48 <dm8tbr> latter
Nov 09 10:33:51 <KotH> juup
Nov 09 10:33:59 <KotH> i'm currently in the kvm on ppc talk
Nov 09 10:34:01 <dm8tbr> missed that
Nov 09 10:34:10 <KotH> wasnt really intersting
Nov 09 10:34:27 <KotH> lots of "we did this, we did that"
Nov 09 10:35:03 <KotH> dm8tbr: got a "ticket" for lunch today? :)
Nov 09 10:35:07 <dm8tbr> yup
Nov 09 10:35:11 <KotH> :-)
Nov 09 11:05:18 <dm8tbr> KotH: did lunch start yet?
Nov 09 11:13:42 <av500> dont you hear the rattling of cuttlery?
Nov 09 11:45:08 <jkridner> does ELC-E wrap up today?
Nov 09 11:45:52 <jkridner> koen: just fyi, I have 4 failing packages on cloud9-gnome-image: libgphoto2, webkit-gtk, samba and abiword
Nov 09 11:50:49 <av500> jkridner: ELC-E is over since wednesday
Nov 09 11:50:53 <av500> these days its only workshops
Nov 09 11:51:17 <woglinde> why needs cloud image samba?
Nov 09 13:08:04 * av500 got launchpads
Nov 09 13:08:22 * av500 installs stellerisware on them
Nov 09 13:31:08 <axMountain> koen: i saw your post on gst on the beaglebone, nice to see that it is possible
Nov 09 13:31:54 <axMountain> koen: what version of gst did you use? the 0.1 from the opkg rep or did you build it from source, ie 1.0 ?
Nov 09 13:40:52 <KotH> does anyone know in which room the wireless guys are?
Nov 09 13:44:43 <dm8tbr> basement IIRC
Nov 09 13:44:45 <av500> my room is full of wires
Nov 09 13:44:57 <dm8tbr> my hovercraft is full of eels
Nov 09 13:46:00 <axMountain> dm8tbr: Limor Fried of adafruit.com fame has started a colletion of beaglebone related tutorials of one which deals with wifi: http://ladyada.net/products/beaglebone/index.html
Nov 09 13:46:08 <av500> wrt trolling:  http://wondermark.com/884
Nov 09 13:47:19 <dm8tbr> axMountain: you missed the context. I am in real life (that's where the pizza guy comes from) in Barcelona at ELCE/LCE/WirelessSummit/...
Nov 09 13:47:51 <av500> dm8tbr: can you bring pizza?
Nov 09 13:48:29 <axMountain> dm8tbr: hah, thought you meant chat room as in #beagle
Nov 09 13:48:51 <dm8tbr> av500: remind me before next time we meet IRL :)
Nov 09 13:48:57 <mru> it's called channel
Nov 09 13:48:58 <av500> axMountain: we call it IRC channel
Nov 09 13:49:14 <axMountain> roger
Nov 09 13:49:19 * av500 needs to oil his enter key
Nov 09 13:49:35 * dm8tbr is on #reallife with two other people on another network. And everyone else is banned!
Nov 09 13:49:58 <av500> baned
Nov 09 13:50:22 * av500 shouts NVIDIA in a crowded theatre
Nov 09 13:52:15 <KotH> there has been enough said about that
Nov 09 13:53:50 <KotH> wow.. the us is sanctioning iranian people because they meddle in the freedom of speach...
Nov 09 13:54:21 <av500> unlike googe, iran is evil
Nov 09 13:54:24 <av500> +l
Nov 09 13:54:25 <KotH> yeah..
Nov 09 13:55:03 * KotH really wonders if some other country would pick up the same stuff, and start sanctioning the us 
Nov 09 13:55:29 <KotH> conceringing freedom of speech, the DMCA is hard to beat
Nov 09 13:55:57 <av500> it restricts pirates
Nov 09 13:56:18 <KotH> i'm a pirate? didnt know that
Nov 09 13:56:48 <KotH> on the other hand... i received a dmca notice from on2 back in the days... written in hungarian
Nov 09 13:57:09 <av500> wow
Nov 09 13:57:31 <av500> KotH: now quickly travel to the US for the notice to have any effect
Nov 09 13:57:34 <av500> before it expires
Nov 09 13:57:38 <KotH> lol
Nov 09 14:00:04 <axMountain> have you used gstreamer on the beagle? when i run
Nov 09 14:00:04 <axMountain> # gst-launch v4l2src ! filesink location=file.jpg
Nov 09 14:00:04 <axMountain> after the output 'New clock: GstSystemClock' nothing more happens, any clue on how to see whats wrong?
Nov 09 14:00:28 <av500> no idea
Nov 09 14:00:49 <av500> since that pipeline is not beagle specific, I would ask in a gst channel for general debug help
Nov 09 14:01:00 <av500> also, try pipelines on your PC first
Nov 09 14:01:00 <axMountain> ok, thx
Nov 09 14:01:17 <axMountain> yes, I did, and i worked on ubuntu
Nov 09 14:01:25 <axMountain> it*
Nov 09 14:03:21 <av500> ok
Nov 09 14:04:23 * axMountain have a feeling that he'd like to stay with angstrom
Nov 09 15:43:17 <rabryn> mdp: did you ever have any luck with mplayer and your api frame buffer on the st7735?
Nov 09 15:43:31 <rabryn> api->spi
Nov 09 16:01:48 * bradfa hates evil vendor kernel usb...
Nov 09 16:06:27 <av500> bradfa: which kernel?
Nov 09 16:06:31 <av500> on what soc?
Nov 09 16:06:36 <bradfa> all of them
Nov 09 16:07:38 <bradfa> am335x 3.2 PSP.  I don't need USB, so I solved my problem by disabling it, but still...
Nov 09 16:08:29 <bradfa> every day I try to work on evil vendor 3.2 PSP kernel my appreciation grows for how koen makes it look easy
Nov 09 16:11:09 <av500> bradfa: but you can take psp+patches, no?
Nov 09 16:11:31 <av500> "evil vendor" kernel does not mean it has to be broken
Nov 09 16:11:43 <av500> we ship them all the time
Nov 09 16:11:59 <bradfa> av500,  I'm just frustrated, will be shipping evil vendor kernel
Nov 09 16:12:11 <bradfa> venting, it's what IRC is made for ;)
Nov 09 16:12:36 <av500> in the end, you ship a product, not a philosophy
Nov 09 16:12:42 <bradfa> yes
Nov 09 16:12:46 <av500> unless you are debian
Nov 09 16:12:53 <bradfa> well, product runs Debian...
Nov 09 16:12:57 <av500> ouch
Nov 09 16:12:59 <av500> :)
Nov 09 16:13:02 <bradfa> :)
Nov 09 16:13:36 <bradfa> yesterday was "hack oneshot LED triggers onto v3.2 PSP release"
Nov 09 16:14:22 <bradfa> today is "bring PSP 3.2 up to stable" (yes, I know there's repos out there that have already done this but I diverged quite a bit from them months ago and using them would be just as much hassle)
Nov 09 16:14:42 <av500> stable being 3.4?
Nov 09 16:14:58 <av500> what kind of product is that btw?
Nov 09 16:15:24 <bradfa> stable being 3.2.y
Nov 09 16:15:42 <bradfa> ISO18000-7 radio controller system
Nov 09 16:33:06 <woglinde_> re
Nov 09 18:38:33 <bizulk> When I search on beaglboard for kernels (beagleboard branch) I "only" versions from 3.0 to 3.7. So I wonder where are the older kernels ?
Nov 09 18:46:20 <woglinde> bizulk which repo do you mean?
Nov 09 18:56:01 <bizulk> woglinde: https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/branches
Nov 09 18:56:17 <bizulk> that's the official repo for beaglebord, isn't it ?
Nov 09 19:21:28 <woglinde> bizulk yes
Nov 09 19:34:42 <axMountain> just bought a new webcam that is checked and green as Linux compatible here http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/ same failure as the other webcam
Nov 09 19:35:22 <woglinde> axMountain what you mean with failure?
Nov 09 19:36:23 <axMountain> woglinde: when i try to capture a image, it goes into a inifinite loop
Nov 09 19:36:40 <axMountain> i do:
Nov 09 19:36:41 <axMountain> # gst-launch v4l2src ! filesink location=file.jpg
Nov 09 19:36:53 <woglinde> axMountain try cheese
Nov 09 19:37:02 <woglinde> or python with python-cheese
Nov 09 19:37:18 <axMountain> ok, i have also tried:
Nov 09 19:37:18 <axMountain> # ffmpeg -vcodec mjpeg -s 320x240 -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video0 image.jpg
Nov 09 19:38:00 <woglinde> which kernel version?
Nov 09 19:38:13 <woglinde> maybee uvc driver is to old
Nov 09 19:38:25 <woglinde> usb cam?
Nov 09 19:38:26 <axMountain> # uname -r
Nov 09 19:38:26 <axMountain> 3.2.30
Nov 09 19:38:47 <woglinde> hm I would go for 3.6 kernel
Nov 09 19:38:58 <axMountain> yes
Nov 09 19:38:58 <axMountain> # lsusb
Nov 09 19:38:58 <axMountain> Bus 001 Device 011: ID 046d:0825 Logitech, Inc.
Nov 09 19:39:20 <axMountain> ok, I'll look for an image
Nov 09 19:41:24 <axMountain> woglinde: do you know if this one has newer kernel: http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/
Nov 09 19:48:16 <woglinde> try opkg update
Nov 09 19:48:23 <woglinde> opkg list | grep linux
Nov 09 19:49:41 <axMountain> woglinde: ok, there's a lot of packages :)
Nov 09 19:51:21 <woglinde> opkg list | grep linux | grep kernel
Nov 09 19:52:13 <axMountain> no package is marked higher than 3.2.30
Nov 09 19:54:07 <woglinde> hm okay
Nov 09 19:54:43 <axMountain> im running  the angstrom that got shipped along with the beaglebone
Nov 09 20:05:55 <_av500_> v4l2 should work there
Nov 09 20:06:15 <_av500_> there is a simple v4l2 test app
Nov 09 20:06:18 <_av500_> try that first
Nov 09 20:18:25 <axMountain> _av500_: ok, do you remember what the name of app is? trust me i am googleing ;)
Nov 09 20:18:44 <_av500_> i would have to google it
Nov 09 20:18:51 <axMountain> ok
Nov 09 20:19:34 <thurbad> you should be able to test v4l2 with mplayer, or are you trying to do a more direct test?
Nov 09 20:21:53 <thos37> it appears that the beaglebone does not have "at" and "opkg install at" fails.  Does this useful app live in a package or do I need to build and install from source?
Nov 09 20:22:03 <axMountain> thurbad: ok, im looking for the cmd to take a pic with mplayer, i've only tried with ffmpeg and gst-launch yet
Nov 09 20:22:40 <thurbad> thos37: did you do opkg update already?
Nov 09 20:23:04 <thos37> thurbad: yes
Nov 09 20:27:22 <Russ> gstreamer is usually the way to go as far as testing v4l2, you just need to know the magic incantations
Nov 09 20:27:23 <axMountain> thurbad: mplayer says: v4l2: ioctl set mute failed: Invalid argument, v4l2: 0 frames successfully processed
Nov 09 20:28:58 <axMountain> Russ: something you know about?
Nov 09 20:29:49 <Russ> axMountain, I've done a fair bit of testing, but I don't remember the pipeline I've use, you'll have to google around a bit and read up some
Nov 09 20:31:52 <thurbad> thos37 the only thing I see in the repo close to at is at-spi
Nov 09 20:32:29 <_av500_> axMountain: http://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/capture-example.html
Nov 09 20:34:06 <axMountain> _av500_: that one looks very similar to the uvccapture program i've tested, I'll try this one as well, thx
Nov 09 20:37:43 <_av500_> ok
Nov 09 20:37:51 <_av500_> yes, they should all be the same
Nov 09 20:38:03 <_av500_> also, see if there is v4l2 debug to be enabled
Nov 09 20:38:09 <_av500_> somewhere in debugfs or so
Nov 09 20:40:31 <woglinde> thos37 use cron
Nov 09 20:45:11 <ds2> _av500_: did you have to defend yourself in spain?
Nov 09 20:45:56 <_av500_> moi? lol
Nov 09 20:46:27 <ds2> sure... seems weak puny geeks are getting their lunch money taken there ;)
Nov 09 20:47:19 <_av500_> yes
Nov 09 22:30:48 <axMountain> why is there libtoolize and not libtool? I need libtool to be able to build CUnit, which I need to build v4l-test-0.19
Nov 09 23:20:32 <funksdev> anyone have issues with soft resets on beaglebone? ... running the mainline 3.7 branch
Nov 09 23:21:56 <funksdev> bootup and hard resets are no problem.. just the soft reset will give me a "Reboot failed -- System halted" message
Nov 09 23:57:44 <thurbad> doesn't that fall under power managment?
Nov 10 00:20:01 <axMountain> _av500_: finally managed to run a test on the v4l, but the results dosn't give me a tell though.. it says 146 tests passed and 32 failed
Nov 10 01:00:53 <axMountain> It works! I can stream video from webcam via beaglebone to my laptop! I think I'll start crying, gst-launch finally works, thanks everbody for the support
Nov 10 02:47:48 <mranostay> morning
Nov 10 02:48:40 <ds2> any more geeks loosing their lunch money?
Nov 10 02:49:35 <mranostay> not today
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