**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 03 02:59:59 2012 Dec 03 03:00:14 ah never mind i didn't see the divisor field Dec 03 03:33:10 Has anyone ever tried to use a 24bbp lcd on the bone? Dec 03 03:44:42 people are clearly not googling now Dec 03 04:05:32 I meant the people actively here, I have googled around, and I'm having a lot of trouble. There is no reference to any 24bpp displays in board-am335xevm.c Dec 03 04:07:40 My LCD shows the Angstrom boot prompt in green, and fb-test shows the wrong colors, but seemingly the correct image when I have my bpp set to 16, but I have it wired for 24bpp, when I try to set it to 24bpp, the boot prompt doesn't show up on my LCD and fb-test flickers and shows the wrong colors and a bunch of stuff it overlapping. Dec 03 04:25:35 * mranostay pokes jkridner_ Dec 03 04:29:38 anyone know which GPIO bank the PRU is connected too? Dec 03 04:30:13 i am assume gpio0 but i fail to see the doc on this Dec 03 05:14:07 <_av500_> mranostay: what kind of trolling is this? Dec 03 05:16:25 _av500_: me? i am asking a question :) Dec 03 05:17:16 <_av500_> exaclty Dec 03 05:17:24 <_av500_> trying to get fact in here! Dec 03 05:17:26 <_av500_> facts Dec 03 05:17:54 * mranostay pulls up the schematics.. Dec 03 05:18:11 ah there they are Dec 03 05:19:32 _av500_: trolls can't ask questions??!?? Dec 03 05:21:24 <_av500_> they can Dec 03 05:22:22 <_av500_> like "Do you sell hubcaps for a '72 Pinto hatchback?" Dec 03 05:25:18 i rather have a car that runs Dec 03 05:25:37 and doesn't catch fire and kill you Dec 03 05:26:19 <_av500_> mranostay: its a movie quote Dec 03 05:27:19 i am young remember Dec 03 05:27:24 which movie? Dec 03 05:27:30 <_av500_> clerks Dec 03 05:27:35 really? Dec 03 05:27:46 o_O Dec 03 05:27:49 of course the last time i saw that i was stoned watching it... :) Dec 03 05:28:11 Isn't that the only way to watch it? Dec 03 05:28:23 yes it is Dec 03 05:30:07 that and The Wall Dec 03 05:30:14 * mranostay misses his teen years Dec 03 05:30:59 I know the feeling. Dec 03 05:40:42 <_av500_> mranostay: ah, so you know :) Dec 03 05:43:47 I need to start working on my beagle bone project again. Dec 03 06:00:11 _av500_: touched the PRU much? Dec 03 06:08:05 _av500_: something for your plus-stream http://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/mutts/s-1239910 Dec 03 06:14:34 what does Garfield hate mondays btw? Dec 03 06:14:40 he is a cat that doesn't work Dec 03 06:15:32 maybe because his man servant has to go to work and can't serve him? Dec 03 06:16:08 what does Jon do again or is it ambiguous? Dec 03 06:17:59 http://garfield.wikia.com/wiki/Jon_Arbuckle doesn't look like it's mentioning anything Dec 03 06:19:19 maybe he's on welfare? ;) Dec 03 06:20:48 ah, there it says 'cartoonist' Dec 03 06:23:02 anyone recognize this error: omapdss DPI error: failed to enable display: no manager Dec 03 06:23:16 i get it when I try to run with the omapfb driver in ubuntu/12.04 Dec 03 06:23:26 and then my screen just blanks out Dec 03 06:24:11 wow 1978?.. Dec 03 06:50:11 <_av500_> mranostay: yes, reality existed back then Dec 03 06:58:00 not for me it didn't Dec 03 07:05:59 _av500_: i'm cooking bacon now Dec 03 07:10:04 moin Dec 03 07:10:17 mranostay: bacon is bad for your karma Dec 03 07:18:36 KotH: it is? Dec 03 08:14:34 mranostay: the holy book says so! Dec 03 08:26:05 KotH: the "Lustiges Tachenbuch"? Dec 03 08:26:30 LetoThe2nd: nope, that one says "thou shall not eat ducks!" Dec 03 08:26:54 KotH: ah. Dec 03 11:02:34 Hello Dec 03 11:02:54 world Dec 03 11:06:35 ; Dec 03 11:08:14 end. Dec 03 11:08:43 return -ENOCONTEXT Dec 03 11:09:13 -EEXPECTATIONTOOHIGH Dec 03 11:09:32 -ENOTANERRORJUSTKIDDINGYOU Dec 03 11:09:58 -ENOSUCHERROR Dec 03 11:10:49 av500: wait, you are just accusing a swede of NO TAN? Dec 03 11:12:04 who needs TAN? SIN and COS ought to be enough for anyone Dec 03 11:12:12 hrhrhr Dec 03 11:12:16 LetoThe2nd: some people use a TAN generator Dec 03 11:12:54 hi dsap Dec 03 11:13:09 beware greeks bearing gifts Dec 03 11:13:11 av500: a tan generator ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:715px-Sunbedoff_large.jpg Dec 03 11:13:18 av500: with the right (wrong?) kind of lamp, that'll give you an arc tan Dec 03 11:13:30 a tan with a fan Dec 03 11:13:35 av500: greeks bearing ouzo? Dec 03 11:13:45 is that to blow the burned skin flakes away? Dec 03 11:14:01 ouch Dec 03 11:14:14 fwiw, ouzo won't help there Dec 03 11:14:27 panto: doesn't ouzo always help? Dec 03 11:14:35 this is so much easier to use: http://hunger.bluephod.net/pictures/partygyros.jpg Dec 03 11:14:45 nice tan Dec 03 11:14:48 LetoThe2nd, no, and you don't want to get drunk with it Dec 03 11:14:55 cute Dec 03 11:15:25 panto: well my ouzo experiences, especially in greece have been mostly pleasant ;) Dec 03 11:15:35 * av500 could use a wantan generator though Dec 03 11:15:45 av500: now you reminded me of lunch time. Dec 03 11:16:07 LetoThe2nd, heh, you didn't get drunk with it Dec 03 11:16:12 the worst possible hangover Dec 03 11:16:18 LetoThe2nd: same happened here Dec 03 11:16:22 panto: i certainly disagree. Dec 03 11:16:28 * av500 is off for a 22 Dec 03 11:16:40 ouzo is about the paraphernalia Dec 03 11:16:54 summer at the beach, and nice tasty mezes on the side Dec 03 11:16:55 panto: the worst hangover ever comes from a mixture of whiskey, jagermeister and 78%rum in equal share. Dec 03 11:17:09 LetoThe2nd, rocket fuel are exempt :) Dec 03 11:17:18 panto: why? Dec 03 11:17:35 you could go to the moon using that as fuel for your rocket Dec 03 11:17:42 LetoThe2nd: the greek air force confiscated all 78% rum Dec 03 11:17:47 av500: hrhrhr Dec 03 11:18:13 panto: the next day you will feel as if you alnded on your way back from the moon without paraglides. Dec 03 11:20:17 * LetoThe2nd also is off, grabbing something to eat Dec 03 11:42:43 anyone recognize this error: omapdss DPI error: failed to enable display: no manager Dec 03 11:42:45 i get it when I try to run with the omapfb driver in ubuntu/12.04 Dec 03 11:42:47 and then my screen just blanks out Dec 03 12:00:18 hi,i am not able to use ethernet. i have remove USB driver by deselecting "USB Support" in "Device Driver" using "make menuconfig" but i have not done anythin with network support. Dec 03 12:00:47 which board? Dec 03 12:00:59 Beagle Board xm Dec 03 12:01:05 ethernet is connected over usb there Dec 03 12:01:47 thanks for answering Dec 03 12:02:51 np, it's what we do Dec 03 13:13:22 Hi, where should I best modify .config before running "bitbake virtual/kernel -c compile .f" again for BeagleBone? Dec 03 13:55:36 Good morning everyone... I'm currently having some problems with my Beaglebone... Last Friday I used "shutdown now" to power off the card and unplugged the power cord. This morning, nothing… I was unable to boot the board. I've developed a custom cape with a XBee receptor and a GPS receptor. Normally, the board is powered by the cape. I tried to boot the board without the cape and by powering the board through the 5V port, and the D1 Dec 03 13:56:02 than a second. I'm using the A6 Revision of the board. Do you have some ideas for me? Thanks :) Dec 03 13:56:23 carl__, it is possible you fried the board Dec 03 13:56:43 can you try to boot with a known good mmc card? Dec 03 13:58:06 I thought of that, and I don't have another mmc card of 4gigs available... Dec 03 13:58:22 hmm Dec 03 13:58:34 a simple way to see if the board is fried is to remove the mmc card and power on Dec 03 13:58:45 what should happend ? Dec 03 13:58:48 *happen? Dec 03 13:58:57 if you see a string of 'CCCCC' in the serial port the cpu should be OK Dec 03 13:59:09 it's the rom loader Dec 03 14:01:46 I managed to fry the sdcard slot on a beagleboard xM (one of three xm boards I have). That board outputs rom loader chars on the serial port but won't accept any card that boots perfectly fine on the other two boards. Something to dig into a rainy day... :) Dec 03 14:02:02 No idea how it happened though. Dec 03 14:02:13 carl__, be sure you remove any capes or other devices plugged in to the expansion connectors when trying panto's suggestion Dec 03 14:02:22 ah, yes :) Dec 03 14:02:31 panto, lessons learned! Dec 03 14:02:45 right, don't let the magic smoke come out Dec 03 14:03:26 My point is it is always valuable to have at least one more known good unit/board/sdcard for testing... Dec 03 14:03:47 I just connected the board via USB, and no COM port showed up in the Peripheral manager. It seems like there is some kind of electrical protection, no? Dec 03 14:04:07 No capes are connected on the board right now Dec 03 14:04:26 jonand: nice way to double sales :) Dec 03 14:04:27 carl__, from the looks of it you fried it Dec 03 14:04:35 order_a_new_bone++ Dec 03 14:05:23 the usb console should show up even without the cpu working IIRC Dec 03 14:05:32 it's an FTDI chip Dec 03 14:06:22 yes Dec 03 14:07:13 carl__, post issue to the beagle list and and file an RMA Dec 03 14:08:50 another test could be to power the board via the 5V connector instead of the USB connector? Dec 03 14:09:36 you could try that too Dec 03 14:38:17 okay, i just tested to power my beagle with the 5V adapter... Same behavior with and without the SD card: as soon as I plug the cord, the D1 Led blinks one time in less than a second... Dec 03 14:38:59 And nothing else happens... The board does not boot. Dec 03 14:39:24 What could have damaged the board ? Dec 03 14:44:30 TechNexion "Putting Huge Things in Tiny Places" with thier flagship product the 7" MultiTouch Kit Dec 03 14:44:34 http://www.technexion.com/index.php/about-us Dec 03 14:45:04 You couldn't make it up! ;) Dec 03 14:45:40 jackmitchell: can i have one with cream and one with chocolate, please? Dec 03 14:50:41 Thanks for the answers guys... I have one last question: I power the bone through the cape, is there any precautions I should take on my cape to avoid having another board fried? Dec 03 14:53:12 don't exceed 5.2 volts Dec 03 14:57:23 I'm having a big problem with my BeagleBone restarting about 1 minute after booting. I don't do anything with it. I'm just watching the serial output: http://pastebin.com/d2uzPaeR It seems to be ~ 60 to 90 seconds after boot, and it's only happening about half the time. I've also tried multiple boards, so I know it isn't the board itself. Anyone know what I can do to get verbose output? or find out wtf Dec 03 14:57:23 is going on? Dec 03 15:08:35 clockman, are you powering over USB? Dec 03 15:08:50 yes Dec 03 15:09:01 i've tried over 5v psu too though Dec 03 15:09:13 does it reboot with the 5v psu too? Dec 03 15:09:53 it did, but i also had the usb plugged in Dec 03 15:10:03 lemme go find the 5v psu and i'll check without the usb plugged in Dec 03 15:12:53 first try, not rebooting... i'll wait about 1 more minute and try again Dec 03 15:16:38 second reboot seems okay Dec 03 15:16:56 trying a third boot Dec 03 15:19:32 well usually by now, it'll have happened. Dec 03 15:19:39 but it seems okay now Dec 03 15:19:52 think my usb isn't supplying enough power or something? Dec 03 15:20:01 or is noisy? Dec 03 15:22:10 it might not supply enough power Dec 03 15:22:18 hi prpplague Dec 03 15:22:39 well, i shall power off 5v psu from now on. thanks guys Dec 03 15:24:18 Does anyone confirms the input voltage range from P9 or have preconisations ? I filed an RMA, but I don't want to problem to happen again... Dec 03 15:25:31 which pins? Dec 03 15:29:14 mru: bang all the pins Dec 03 15:31:25 one more question. which takes precedence? USB power or 5V DC power jack? if I plug in the dc jack first, will I then be able to plug in usb and it won't switch over power to the usb? Dec 03 15:39:22 panto: greetings Dec 03 15:40:03 mind if I send you the ELC CFP before I sent it out? Dec 03 15:40:05 Hey, I'm trying to debug something on the beaglebone, and gdb is giving me errors when I try to connect to openocd: http://paste.debian.net/214110/ Dec 03 15:40:41 I tried both the version that comes with debian (0.5.0) and one I compiled from source (0.6.1), but I get the same results Dec 03 15:41:34 panto, bitbanging unicorns? Dec 03 15:41:53 bitbanging DT unicorns! Dec 03 15:42:09 ooh, I'd drive out to see that if I had to Dec 03 16:04:43 mranostay, the 8ball requests you repeat your PRU gpio question Dec 03 16:31:05 http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135341370451 I like the "case" Dec 03 16:32:40 i personally find the address line more entertaining Dec 03 16:32:57 "704 Anyang K-Center, Gwanyang, Dongan, Anyang, Gyeonggi, South Korea, 431-815" Dec 03 16:33:24 how many words ending with "ang" do you know and can you put into one line? ;) Dec 03 16:33:41 it's a common suffix in korean Dec 03 16:33:42 actually they end in yang Dec 03 16:34:04 mru: probably. Dec 03 16:34:31 i just find it amusing that they seem to need 4 levels of indirection to get to the street. Dec 03 16:35:16 not all of them are strictly necessary Dec 03 16:35:31 where is ying at? Dec 03 16:35:32 (ok, that the cooling block is two times the size of the board is worth a smile too ;)) Dec 03 16:36:27 couldn't they have integrated cooling in the usb/eth jack? Dec 03 16:37:02 i suspect that would need engineering and not only taking reference schematics and cutting the BOM in half. ;) Dec 03 16:38:31 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/45 Dec 03 16:38:47 hrhrhr Dec 03 17:10:30 My previous issue concerning beaglebone and gdb was simply that I was trying to connect gdb to the telnet port of openocd :( Dec 03 18:14:27 djlewis: well how is our favorite AR programmer? Dec 03 18:15:01 hehee, your only AR programmer I know of ;) is well, thank you Dec 03 18:15:23 just tossed 5 more computers in the dumpster this morning. Dec 03 18:15:42 still trying to fit my new roommate into my home. Dec 03 18:17:18 roommates? why would you ever do such a thing? :) Dec 03 18:18:02 she is a good deal :) Dec 03 18:18:26 ah right that was my next question Dec 03 18:19:14 I havent had to have my wolf brand chili from the can since she moved in. Dec 03 18:24:28 hey whatever the text on the box tells me i listen :P Dec 03 20:34:35 g'night people Dec 03 20:34:37 (and trolls) Dec 03 20:37:14 hey, trolls are people too! Dec 03 20:38:52 *g* Dec 03 20:58:43 mru: barely Dec 03 20:59:46 prpplague: what is with the sappy post? :P Dec 03 21:00:13 mranostay: hehe it was a joke about "love of my life" being a beer Dec 03 21:00:20 guess i didn't make that clear Dec 03 21:00:43 i get it :) Dec 03 21:00:53 prpplague: i was thinking a bottle of rum Dec 03 21:00:59 hehe Dec 03 21:01:05 * prpplague edits Dec 03 21:04:59 prpplague: I thought you were happily married Dec 03 21:05:35 mru: yep, exactly why i drink..... Dec 03 21:05:42 hehe Dec 03 21:05:52 yeah, there is that aspect Dec 03 21:06:01 er this is happy? Dec 03 21:06:17 mranostay: it can get much worse than that Dec 03 21:06:46 * mranostay pictures a troll wedding Dec 03 21:07:17 from what I've heard, prpplague's wife seem to be quite the troll too Dec 03 21:07:31 if i ever get married my side of the church is going to be damn weird.. Dec 03 21:07:41 church? Dec 03 21:07:53 mru: that is typical here Dec 03 21:08:15 sure Dec 03 21:08:29 mru: hehe, yes she can very much a troll Dec 03 21:08:38 but I certainly wouldn't get married in a church Dec 03 21:08:59 whatever the girl wants just go along with it i'd say Dec 03 21:09:23 I don't think I'd want to marry someone who insisted on doing it in a church Dec 03 21:09:54 if I did, the bottle probably wouldn't be far... Dec 03 21:16:36 mranostay, that's typical there? Dec 03 21:29:14 prpplague: just curious. how do women in barbados view trolling? Dec 03 21:30:08 mranostay: careful, next thing you know he'll be trying to set you up with his wife's cousins Dec 03 21:36:47 you mean again? :P Dec 03 21:37:05 oh, he already did that? Dec 03 21:39:48 mranostay: hehe, west indian women are extremely feisty so they do plenty of their own trolling Dec 03 21:40:22 mranostay: basically they are all descendents of irish slaves, scotish slaves, and african slaves Dec 03 21:42:46 slavery brings people together? Dec 03 21:43:04 * mranostay adds one to his non-PC counter Dec 03 21:43:44 mranostay: apparently Dec 03 21:44:52 mranostay: hehe if you have 45 minutes, feel free to watch a documentary on my wifes family history - http://youtu.be/Hoq3TjTw1BA Dec 03 21:47:26 any cousins in that doc? Dec 03 21:48:32 mranostay: he didn't show you photos? Dec 03 21:50:55 mranostay: hehehe, everyone on the island is a cousin Dec 03 21:51:37 oh right, need to set mranostay up with some of my wife's cousins Dec 03 21:51:39 hehe Dec 03 21:51:56 mranostay: i tried to get robclark, and mru setup with some of them, but no luck Dec 03 21:52:13 you didn't try very hard Dec 03 21:52:18 hehe Dec 03 21:52:35 you should bring some along next time Dec 03 21:53:16 mru: hehe good idea Dec 03 21:53:47 a flock Dec 03 21:54:05 best ELC....ever! Dec 03 21:54:30 mdp: ELC-Caribbean Dec 03 21:54:43 mdp: swag bag includes spf100 sunblock Dec 03 21:54:54 prpplague: and you can win "best of show" with the right set of attendees at your session Dec 03 21:55:02 prpplague: and bottle of rum Dec 03 21:55:04 hehe Dec 03 21:55:08 prpplague: i generally don't wear sunscreen but i'm so glad i did for the 10 days i was in greece :) Dec 03 21:55:38 mranostay: trust me, you'll want it in barbados Dec 03 21:56:19 just don't leave it to a vote... Dec 03 21:56:30 people can't be trusted to pick the coolest place Dec 03 21:56:41 mranostay: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bridgetown,+Saint+Michael,+Barbados&hl=en&ll=13.186956,-59.476392&spn=0.002285,0.004128&sll=32.979228,-96.701263&sspn=0.01575,0.033023&oq=bridgetown,&t=h&gl=us&hnear=Bridgetown,+St+Michael,+Barbados&z=19 Dec 03 21:56:59 mranostay: the half circle is a beach bar and next to it is what used to be a call center Dec 03 21:57:06 mranostay: fiber net connection to the building Dec 03 21:57:10 mranostay: both are vacant Dec 03 21:57:23 mranostay: owned by the gov, and they want to lease it out Dec 03 21:57:27 :D Dec 03 21:57:39 mranostay: "Dave's Beach Bar and Embedded Consulting" Dec 03 21:57:50 I'm in Dec 03 21:57:52 prpplague, there is plenty of calendar time on the schedule for elc-caribbean Dec 03 21:58:36 we should do a pure trollcon Dec 03 21:58:38 certainly so if the two present elc-e's can be barely more than 3 months apart Dec 03 21:58:51 hehe Dec 03 21:59:17 think we could get LF and Linus to sign off on it if we promise Linus he can going diving? Dec 03 21:59:35 heh Dec 03 21:59:37 there's a plan Dec 03 21:59:52 noobs attend free correct? Dec 03 22:00:14 hehe Dec 03 22:00:28 or the first 100 people to talk from the irc web portal get free admission Dec 03 22:00:34 trolls attend free Dec 03 22:00:52 those with most trolling endorsements on linkedin Dec 03 22:01:04 no trolls get paid to go even better Dec 03 22:01:16 let's keep it realistic Dec 03 22:01:35 don't ruin trolling by involving money...keep it pure Dec 03 22:02:40 * mdp senses mranostay itching to go home and bitbang pru gpo Dec 03 22:03:16 did I see something about a gangbitbang driver today? Dec 03 22:03:25 heh Dec 03 22:03:30 mdp: if you could latch with the shift out mode that would be awesome Dec 03 22:03:48 * mranostay makes that a note for his slides Dec 03 22:03:56 mranostay, there's several little tweaks I wish for in there Dec 03 22:04:12 mdp: i mean that would be perfect for shift registers then Dec 03 22:04:56 mostly as a reference due to the out-of-tree drivers and suboptimal approach..but you might find the pru "soft uart" implementation that's hanging out on gitorious of interest Dec 03 22:05:27 since they don't care about determinism, they grab the mcasp to use as a shift register for 1-4 UARTs Dec 03 22:05:35 mcasps Dec 03 22:06:25 https://gitorious.org/pru/am335x-pru-uart-fw Dec 03 22:06:50 heh Dec 03 22:07:22 mdp: i was thinking being insane and using the other pru's shift out as a latching output :) Dec 03 22:07:48 avoiding external logic? Dec 03 22:08:47 that seems sane Dec 03 22:09:03 you know you can directly drive the other pru's registers, right? Dec 03 22:09:06 that's what I did Dec 03 22:09:30 so look at it as you can have simple code on one pru and steal all the other pru's resources for your own Dec 03 22:10:35 recruiters are going wild on linkedin Dec 03 22:10:51 must need to connect to TIers to look at other TIers for plucking Dec 03 22:12:32 mranostay, https://gitorious.org/pru/am335x-pru-uart-fw/trees/master .. for a more involved use case Dec 03 22:14:51 a pruart! Dec 03 22:15:56 a plague of uarts upon thee Dec 03 22:16:22 9 Dec 03 22:17:37 8 Dec 03 22:20:01 11 Dec 03 22:23:00 Hmmmm Dec 03 22:24:12 mdp: know off hand if the PRUs can access the full I2C hardware in DMA mode? Dec 03 22:24:44 iiuc the pru has full L3 access Dec 03 22:25:22 not just access but with the DMA Dec 03 22:25:30 that would imply sharing the interrupts and a few other things Dec 03 22:25:33 which dma? Dec 03 22:25:52 the one from the DMA controller to main memory... system dma? Dec 03 22:30:41 ds2: looks like the pru can drive the edma Dec 03 22:31:38 mru: Hmmm this opens up possiblities Dec 03 22:32:33 will the pru feed my cat and wash my car? Dec 03 22:32:41 mranostay: is it an ethercat? Dec 03 22:32:52 maybe it will Dec 03 22:33:12 this is an ethercat: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JCY6RWQ-PAw/UFchwDGUaFI/AAAAAAAACYQ/4jYhbcy-j7A/s420/ethercat.png Dec 03 22:34:55 pru can access everything Dec 03 22:35:36 mdp: are all system interrupts routed to the pru intc as well? Dec 03 22:35:41 ethercats, ho! Dec 03 22:36:15 mru, not sure..I think *some* at least Dec 03 22:36:25 bbl Dec 03 22:36:25 that was the question Dec 03 22:36:40 a glance at the trm says some edma interrupts are routed there Dec 03 22:37:07 but I also saw the phrase "select peripherals" Dec 03 22:37:12 but does access == exclusive or shared? Dec 03 22:37:19 i.e. I am responsible for avoiding collisons Dec 03 22:37:37 you'd have to make sure the a8 doesn't try to use the same dma channels Dec 03 22:37:47 right, but that's a sw thing Dec 03 22:37:56 vs a hard mux somewhere that prevents it Dec 03 22:38:03 probably the best approach is to make a linux driver reserve a channel and tell the pru the details Dec 03 22:38:24 or just tell Linux it has fewer channels Dec 03 22:38:33 or that Dec 03 22:39:13 I wonder if the PM bug can be solved by using a PRU instead Dec 03 22:40:49 we were taught at university that "there is no problem in computer science that cannot be solved with another level of indirection" Dec 03 22:41:01 this isn't exactly CS, but the rule might still apply Dec 03 22:43:14 as I understand it, part of the bug has to do with buggered firmware for a M3 something like that Dec 03 22:43:37 if giving up 1 PRU gives me suspend and resume... Dec 03 22:44:04 excpet the problem of having too many levels of indirection Dec 03 22:44:33 thurbad: that's a problem that doesn't exist in cs Dec 03 22:44:40 lol Dec 03 22:46:50 * mranostay breaks out the smoke and mirrors Dec 03 22:47:59 why you think some schools don't officially offer a CS degree and instead offer a "equiv" that looks a lot like a consolation prize for EE's who can't make it? Dec 03 22:48:00 :D Dec 03 22:48:40 ds2: better than a CIS one :) Dec 03 23:05:52 Question: I want to use my db9 port for controlling a GPS timer, but there is interference because of my console using ttyS2 Dec 03 23:06:18 I've disabled the getty for ttyS2, but it is still being designated to my console within Angstrom's bootargs Dec 03 23:06:36 cat /proc/cmdline reveals that ttyS2 gets taken by the console at boot Dec 03 23:06:39 so change the boot args Dec 03 23:06:51 is there a way to do this without rebuilding the kernel? Dec 03 23:06:53 hi mru Dec 03 23:07:40 as far as I can tell, the bootargs are hard coded. I've created uEnv.txt in my /boot directory as follows: Dec 03 23:07:47 there is ALWAYS a way of doing it w/o reuilding the kernel Dec 03 23:07:52 it gets loaded into RAM :) Dec 03 23:07:56 or u-boot Dec 03 23:08:14 if you like doing that way Dec 03 23:08:23 contents of /boot/uEnv.txt: console=ttyS3,115200n8 Dec 03 23:08:38 my u-boot files are binary Dec 03 23:08:47 ever heard of a hex editor? :) Dec 03 23:08:50 (trying not to recompile) Dec 03 23:09:01 just build naked images Dec 03 23:09:12 you can write a util to convert uImage to a naked image Dec 03 23:09:43 naked image. hmm this requires more research Dec 03 23:09:54 sounds like dirty talk to me ;) Dec 03 23:10:04 nobdoor: you just won a free pass to trollcon 2013 Dec 03 23:10:23 or wire in some NOR and run xip's Dec 03 23:10:51 ds2: but xip can't be patched at runtime Dec 03 23:11:06 why not? Dec 03 23:11:20 it is only NOR, not mask ROM Dec 03 23:11:35 patched non-destructively Dec 03 23:11:37 i'm suprised that there are so many hoops to jump through to use a serial port Dec 03 23:11:44 nobdoor: your question has been addressed here a lot in the past and more in the future. Dec 03 23:11:47 tried google? Dec 03 23:12:05 yes Dec 03 23:12:09 angstrom isn't really talked about Dec 03 23:12:14 mostly ubuntu solutions Dec 03 23:12:14 really it isn't? Dec 03 23:12:16 tried reading source code? Dec 03 23:12:17 odd Dec 03 23:12:34 angstrom solutions reccomend creating /boot/uEnv.txt Dec 03 23:12:41 and killing the getty Dec 03 23:12:55 this is not working for me. ubuntu solutions refer to different file trees Dec 03 23:13:27 upgrade Dec 03 23:13:31 you must be using obsolete stuff Dec 03 23:13:37 ideally I'd like to keep my os and save my work Dec 03 23:13:59 get another SD card Dec 03 23:15:13 that is the ideal case Dec 03 23:15:17 we don't live in an ideal world Dec 03 23:16:25 it would be insane for the beagleboard to be shipped without the ability to configure its serial port Dec 03 23:16:42 ideal is too strong of a word. this should be common sense :P Dec 03 23:18:16 it's perfectly possible Dec 03 23:18:36 but I'm starting to doubt that you're capable Dec 03 23:19:10 that's kind of rude Dec 03 23:21:57 trools have been known to be thus Dec 03 23:22:01 trols? Dec 03 23:22:06 trolls :) Dec 03 23:24:01 nobdoor: which BB do you have? Dec 03 23:24:04 heh Dec 03 23:24:21 beagleboard-xm rev C Dec 03 23:24:43 running 2.6.32 Dec 03 23:25:37 I was thinking of the older pre XM models. Not related here. Dec 03 23:30:35 later guys, dolls and trolls . . . Dec 03 23:30:57 c u Dec 03 23:49:51 mdp: doesn't msp430 have usb already? Dec 04 00:47:51 I am wondering if there is any way to run code on the host computer (in this case preferentially a mac) and access the i/o's on the beaglebone? The software I have been developing in c++ runs too slowly on the beaglebone, and all I really want is to send/receive signals to some simple hardwar (pager motor, accelerometer... and an fsr matrix). Dec 04 00:51:52 Any idea(s)??? I feel like there should be a way to have a library on the host computer that allows access to the beaglebone pins? Dec 04 00:53:40 Is this a stupid question? Have I missed a basic solution / understanding? Dec 04 01:06:22 I am wondering if there is any way to access the beaglebone I/O's from code running on the host computer when it is plugged in (in this case C++ on a Mac)? Dec 04 01:09:55 stop asking the same question Dec 04 01:15:30 Is there an answer (I am not sure if people who are joining new see the old questions)? Dec 04 01:43:39 Salal: yes of course there is an answer Dec 04 01:43:47 Salal: it is very easy to do Dec 04 01:44:07 Salal: how the F do you think people print to a printer not attached to their pc? Dec 04 01:50:38 prpplague: btw i can see the schedule for that con. 9a - 11a talks 11a - 2p beach time 2p - 5p talks 5p -??? rum break Dec 04 01:50:48 hehe Dec 04 01:51:05 mranostay: seriously though i have a conference theme planned Dec 04 01:51:32 weirest linuxcon ever Dec 04 01:51:42 mranostay: open source for emerging communities Dec 04 01:51:54 mranostay: it would be a rocking linuxcon Dec 04 01:52:15 * prpplague is about 90% serious with this idea Dec 04 01:53:07 just us trolls meeting up on barbados wouldn't be such a bad idea either Dec 04 01:53:42 mru: bitbanging bof? Dec 04 01:55:33 prpplague: i think mru would need SPF 150 Dec 04 01:55:38 mru: hehe Dec 04 01:55:41 mranostay: hehe Dec 04 01:56:27 nice reply prpplague Dec 04 01:56:40 mranostay: oh thanks! Dec 04 01:56:58 * prpplague tried for years to get the local gov off MS stuff Dec 04 01:59:38 mranostay: i'd be willing to jump in the boiling pit of organizational mess if we got official support from LF Dec 04 01:59:47 But specifically for the beaglebone, what is the driver / libary needed? Dec 04 02:00:21 (Obviously I have the driver for connecting to it, and can ssh or use bonescript) Dec 04 02:00:45 Salal: let me answer that: i have no CLUE what you want to accomplish, but most likely SOMETHING has been created to solve you issue Dec 04 02:01:19 Salal: in 30 years of doing UNIX style developement i have only ONCE found an item that did not exist for what i wanted to do Dec 04 02:04:15 mranostay: maybe by chance linus will have a look and have some sort of influence, hehe Dec 04 02:11:55 prpplague: put a G-note in your xmas card to him this year :P Dec 04 02:12:14 hehe Dec 04 02:12:32 mranostay: i am sure a G is little short on his value list Dec 04 02:13:18 but I'd really prefer hawaii anyway, it can get hot a humid in the caribbean Dec 04 02:13:37 Russ: hehe indeed, depends on the time of year Dec 04 02:13:57 Russ: but at least for barbados we can get mranostay setup with some cousins Dec 04 02:14:03 I went there for a comp'd thing once, some days just so bleh Dec 04 02:14:13 (us virgin islands) Dec 04 02:14:25 Russ: hehe yea those are kind of bla Dec 04 02:14:39 but you get out away from the island on a boat, and its ok Dec 04 02:15:27 mranostay: at least gkh +1'd my idea Dec 04 02:16:00 my experience with hawaii was maui, perfect whether Dec 04 02:17:14 er, weather Dec 04 02:17:29 hehe barbados is hot as hell Dec 04 02:17:52 are there are ton of iguanas there too? Dec 04 02:19:29 hehe no iguanas Dec 04 02:19:34 awww Dec 04 02:19:36 only giant centipedes Dec 04 02:19:43 iguanas all over st thomas Dec 04 02:20:41 prpplague: ok you aren't selling these Dec 04 02:20:43 *this Dec 04 02:21:13 anything that can kill me? Dec 04 02:21:39 mranostay: plenty, hehe, but lots of "fun" stuff, hehe Dec 04 02:22:15 centipedes, yum! Dec 04 02:22:56 http://youtu.be/Qf8pAwGsuF4 Dec 04 02:23:14 now you're really selling it Dec 04 02:23:32 SFW? Dec 04 02:23:37 yes Dec 04 02:24:21 Russ: hehe Dec 04 02:25:21 i so hate spiders Dec 04 02:25:40 very few spiders on barbados Dec 04 02:25:47 snakes? Dec 04 02:26:07 bark scorpions are the worst for me Dec 04 02:26:10 mranostay: no snakes, the british imported mongooses which killed all the snakes Dec 04 02:26:24 british++ Dec 04 02:26:56 i sure that threw something else out of whack but whatever Dec 04 02:27:05 mranostay: 8 of every 10 births on barbados are females Dec 04 02:27:23 er how is that genetically possible? Dec 04 02:27:56 mranostay: hehe it's possible, the vast majority of males leave the island Dec 04 02:28:14 mranostay: which leaves a very strong genetic disposition for females Dec 04 02:28:40 leave the island for where? Dec 04 02:28:48 mranostay: canada or Oz Dec 04 02:29:02 mranostay: since both have open immigration for barbados Dec 04 02:29:02 can they enter the U.K. easily? Dec 04 02:29:19 in a small boat at night, sure :) Dec 04 02:29:23 mranostay: easier than the US, but not as easy as canada or oz Dec 04 02:29:31 oz? Dec 04 02:29:36 australia Dec 04 02:29:43 ah Dec 04 02:29:59 what, you've never heard that term before? Dec 04 02:29:59 why would they go there? Dec 04 02:30:05 to see the wizard? Dec 04 02:30:09 hehe Dec 04 02:30:28 mranostay: lots of work opportunities and education Dec 04 02:30:57 I know a crazy woman who moved there Dec 04 02:30:59 stay away Dec 04 02:31:23 seems kinda harse to avoid a country because of one crazy woman Dec 04 02:31:23 if mru thinks she was crazy, you better stay the hell away Dec 04 02:31:32 *harsh Dec 04 02:31:35 hehe Dec 04 02:34:16 mranostay: say howdy - http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/462538_4563048955468_873482040_o.jpg **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 04 02:59:59 2012