**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 15 02:59:58 2012 Dec 15 03:01:54 ok, so i've installed an ubtuntu image on an SDcard, put it in the bone, and connected to the serial port. It boots up and gets as far as Dec 15 03:01:57 Begin: Running /scripts/local-bottom ... done. done. Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done. Dec 15 03:02:08 it then sits and does nothing Dec 15 03:02:29 eventually after a few minutes, it starts spewing lots of strange erroor message Dec 15 03:02:39 I have an A5 Dec 15 03:02:50 anyone have any clues as to what i might have done wrong Dec 15 03:04:28 have you consider asking some more ESP enabled spieces? Dec 15 03:05:09 not sure what else i can tell you Dec 15 03:05:56 i used the image from http://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/precise/ Dec 15 03:06:11 my idea of a strange error is one that starts with english then suddenly switches to unicode and then back w/o any boundaries Dec 15 03:06:19 and I have no idea why anything would output that Dec 15 03:07:08 errors look like this Dec 15 03:07:09 [ 360.822631] [] (schedule_timeout+0x0/0x16c) from [] (wait_for_common+0xc8/0x154) [ 360.832244] r6:00000002 r5:cf837abc r4:7fffffff [ 360.837127] [] (wait_for_common+0x0/0x154) from [] (wait_for_completion+0x18/0x1c) [ 360.846954] [] (wait_for_completion+0x0/0x1c) from [] (flush_work+0x30/0x3c) [ 360.856231] [] (flush_work+0x0/0x3c) from [] (t Dec 15 03:07:19 that is not an error Dec 15 03:07:45 nor is that a strange message Dec 15 03:07:48 great!, what doe sit mean Dec 15 03:08:23 it means code has executed 0x16c bites from the beginning of the schedule_timeout symbol Dec 15 03:08:44 right.. Dec 15 03:08:47 bytes Dec 15 03:09:25 i woudl ahve expected a login prompt on the serial port Dec 15 03:09:46 if everything was running happily Dec 15 03:10:34 like the agnostrum distro Dec 15 03:10:57 do you have any suggestion as to waht could be wrong Dec 15 03:11:06 ubuntu Dec 15 03:12:12 ubuntu is wrong? Dec 15 03:16:42 i've followed the instructions that were on the ubuntu project web page, i've also tryed the instrutions that were on the debian page. Very siimilar result. I reinstalled the Angnostrum system, and that works fine.. There does seem to be the possiblity that ubuntu and/or deiban shoudl work.. Dec 15 03:17:01 given that some people have obviously got it to work Dec 15 03:17:33 i'd thought perhaps my laptop was'nt supplying enough power, so i put the board on an eternal 5V PSU Dec 15 03:20:32 maybe i'll come back later and ask someone Dec 15 04:32:06 ds2: i think the lack of mru is rasing the noob level Dec 15 04:36:58 a day without mru is like a day without... ? Dec 15 04:39:30 * ka6sox is certain he has NO opinion... Dec 15 04:41:15 he ka6sox Dec 15 04:41:18 +y Dec 15 04:44:17 hey! Dec 15 04:45:35 okay lets see if this patch applies cleanly now :P Dec 15 04:46:01 whatcha patchin? Dec 15 04:46:20 kernel Dec 15 04:48:32 b00m Dec 15 04:48:45 fail? Dec 15 04:49:30 am33xx_gpmc=y .... BOOM Dec 15 04:50:13 ooooh - working the FPGA <-> GPMC angle tonight. Dec 15 04:50:21 ya Dec 15 04:50:49 and the kernel is fighting back... Dec 15 04:51:18 so far Dec 15 04:51:45 where is the boom happening? during build or boot? Dec 15 04:56:05 * mranostay hurls a Spaten at ka6sox Dec 15 04:57:16 emeb_mac, no, in do_configure :P Dec 15 04:57:23 it doesnt' like me Dec 15 04:57:27 (very much) Dec 15 04:57:35 ooh - doesn't even get to build Dec 15 04:57:36 ka6sox: emeb_mac: how goes the FPGA? Dec 15 04:57:46 it goes. Dec 15 04:57:51 I can talk to it via SPI Dec 15 04:57:58 but not GPMC...(yet) Dec 15 04:58:01 mranostay: haven't done anything with it on my end since getting the loader working Dec 15 04:58:21 ka6sox seems to be more diligent than I Dec 15 04:58:31 I think I might want it a bit more :D Dec 15 04:59:04 heh Dec 15 04:59:21 my problem is that I like doing the hardware. the software... Dec 15 05:00:03 i like both in small amounts Dec 15 05:00:37 oh, I like software fine. but I usually have other HW projects tempting me. :) Dec 15 05:00:38 then again embedded guys are really hardward guys compared to most people Dec 15 05:01:10 there's that too Dec 15 05:01:12 any software i write generally is flipping bits on some low level device Dec 15 05:01:24 versus all my java programmer friends :) Dec 15 05:01:32 bang all the bits! Dec 15 05:02:29 heh Dec 15 05:04:31 working on my bitbanging nixie cape atm Dec 15 05:05:19 why do they allow you to swear in this channel? Dec 15 05:06:23 swear? Dec 15 05:07:25 * mranostay greps his irc logs for swearing Dec 15 05:08:15 only 21 eff words from April to now. I think that is below average Dec 15 05:10:35 trying to cut down? Dec 15 05:10:57 emeb_mac: no i swear all the time Dec 15 05:11:08 just not in this channel generally Dec 15 05:11:40 reminds me of some dialog from the original "Mummy" movie - "Do you swear?" "Every damn day." Dec 15 05:12:03 he he Dec 15 05:12:17 i'm sure there hasn't been a day since 10 i haven't sworn in some form Dec 15 05:14:31 * emeb_mac remembers his 9th-grad chemlab partner who dropped the f-bomb about every other word. Dec 15 05:14:46 for some reason it no longer bothers me. Dec 15 05:14:56 i only do that when i'm really really really drunk Dec 15 05:15:12 that might explain my chemlab partner Dec 15 05:15:58 i'm generally a happy drunk but that 1-5% of the time i'm kinda a jerk :) Dec 15 05:16:54 * emeb_mac is a sleep drunk Dec 15 05:16:58 +y Dec 15 05:17:25 * emeb_mac is dropping a lot of 'y' this evening. better check the keyboard, or fingers. Dec 15 05:17:59 sleep drunky? Dec 15 05:19:19 and god forbid if i get in text mood when drunk :) Dec 15 05:19:33 *mode Dec 15 05:19:48 I think both of you are missing letters Dec 15 05:19:49 prpplague: yo Dec 15 05:20:11 ka6sox: beer... i blame beer.. Dec 15 05:20:55 heh Dec 15 05:21:45 mranostay: hey Dec 15 05:21:51 mranostay: what's cookin? Dec 15 05:22:18 prpplague: so you liked the hobbitses? Dec 15 05:22:53 prpplague: so is my PRU proposal too vague? Dec 15 05:23:04 btw thanks for fixing the edit feature :) Dec 15 05:24:13 mranostay: can't take credit for that one, just reported it to LF Dec 15 05:24:29 mranostay: they haven't turned on my access to review the proposals yet Dec 15 05:24:37 mranostay: probably next week Dec 15 05:24:43 emeb_mac: indeed Dec 15 05:24:44 ok to the pastebine and private msg! Dec 15 05:24:49 *pastebin Dec 15 05:25:01 mranostay: hehe sure Dec 15 05:27:36 hey you guys are alive Dec 15 05:27:51 for very small values of alive (some of us) Dec 15 05:27:52 andrew_mpg: drunkish but alive Dec 15 05:27:55 if they were dead they wouldn't answer. Dec 15 05:28:26 oh, you hav'nt a dead person speak to you? Dec 15 05:29:37 can't say it's ever happened. Dec 15 05:29:44 no, nor to me Dec 15 05:30:54 but I am ready for a Zombie Apocolypse Dec 15 05:31:01 is there a place to ask what some people think are dumb questions about beagles? Dec 15 05:31:25 according to the topic...yes Dec 15 05:31:42 doo eeet! Dec 15 05:31:48 ka6sox: he already broke the first rule of the #beagle club Dec 15 05:31:55 ask to ask? Dec 15 05:31:57 yup Dec 15 05:32:10 that's strike 1 Dec 15 05:32:11 no, that was'nt asking to ask.. that was asking if there is a place to ask Dec 15 05:32:13 thats differnet Dec 15 05:32:15 he asked if we were alive? Dec 15 05:32:20 quibbling Dec 15 05:32:24 :-) Dec 15 05:32:51 * ka6sox unscrews anohter bottle of Modesto's finest... Dec 15 05:33:12 so hit us with these questions. If they're dumb we'll let you know. :) Dec 15 05:33:25 we promise not to pummel too much.. Dec 15 05:34:09 i wonder if i need first to supply several crates of whatever you fancy to grease the wheels of infomation flow Dec 15 05:34:22 ok time to get some sleep, i have a ton of work to do before the end of the month to get some demos off for CES Dec 15 05:34:57 ok off to the bar 200 meters away! Dec 15 05:35:26 don't forget your gps so you can get back Dec 15 05:36:03 andrew_mpg: I think no further lubrication is necessary this evening. Dec 15 05:36:16 i'll leave a trail of breadcrumbs Dec 15 05:36:52 mranostay: drink a few for me Dec 15 05:37:12 for someone whos just fired up a beagle for the first time yesterday, with a resonable ( read not expert ) level of experience with *nix, which distribution provides an easy path to get started.. I get the impression some folks have some preferences, but after 4 hours reading and googling i cant' see too many reasons why to pick one over another Dec 15 05:38:04 it really depends on what you want to do Dec 15 05:38:10 my first answer would be angstrom Dec 15 05:38:22 angstrom Dec 15 05:38:23 angstrom Dec 15 05:38:33 thats 3 votes to none. Dec 15 05:38:52 and seeing angstrom is the only distro i can make work, it might win by default Dec 15 05:39:13 it's sized just right for an SBC and is fairly easily expanded with a good package system. Dec 15 05:39:29 andrew_mpg, which beagle? Dec 15 05:39:40 my *choice* of distro woudl be debian, only because its what i've used for donkeys years Dec 15 05:39:49 beaglebone Dec 15 05:40:23 who the hell is donkey? Dec 15 05:40:39 donkeys years = very very long time Dec 15 05:40:43 what the hell is donkey? Dec 15 05:41:03 sorry, maybe thats localised slang Dec 15 05:41:16 s/donkeys years/>10years Dec 15 05:41:19 debian, ubuntu, all those are nice, but they usually require an understanding of what's going on and how to fix it when things go wrong Dec 15 05:42:11 i guess the beagle came with angstrom for a reason Dec 15 05:43:14 i came to look at the beagle because ( and i suspect i might be mocked ) after playing with the raspbery PI, i cant' really get it to do what i need Dec 15 05:43:28 its painful to interface to maninly Dec 15 05:43:56 and who ever put connectors on all four sides, needs to think about how something can be used in the real world Dec 15 05:44:28 i need a low latency audio in, is the crunch for me Dec 15 05:44:34 and you just cant do that via SUB Dec 15 05:44:36 sorry, USB Dec 15 05:44:38 andrew_mpg, what...got tired of bitbanging? oh crap...I swore... Dec 15 05:44:41 andrew_mpg: you won't be mocked for not liking rpi here. Dec 15 05:45:06 mru won't bring out his banhammer :D Dec 15 05:45:07 oh, not even mocked for havint tryed it to start with? Dec 15 05:45:17 im dissapointed Dec 15 05:45:23 when people see the light...we get it. Dec 15 05:46:01 cute and cheap, probalby have a place as LCD picture frames, but not really useful for me Dec 15 05:47:05 low latency audio...why? Dec 15 05:47:30 i want to decode LTC SMPTE time code Dec 15 05:47:59 hmmm - ka6sox and I were talking about something like that last year IIRC Dec 15 05:48:18 the best usb interfaces, are about 3ms Dec 15 05:48:25 which for many applications is just fine Dec 15 05:48:52 for mine it makes it annoying Dec 15 05:48:59 3ms - wow. longer than I'd have thought Dec 15 05:49:09 I need the blend @ about .2mS Dec 15 05:49:55 SMTPE timecode isnt' that difficult... Dec 15 05:50:04 no, its not Dec 15 05:50:07 AES can be fun. Dec 15 05:50:14 sorry AES/EBU Dec 15 05:50:17 i have working code now Dec 15 05:50:33 project is now to port it all into asomethign i can hold in my hand Dec 15 05:50:33 what port are you using? Dec 15 05:50:47 are you going to just read it out or something else? Dec 15 05:51:10 im using it to trigger events Dec 15 05:51:31 events could be any number of thigns Dec 15 05:52:26 like pyrotechnics? Dec 15 05:52:28 :D Dec 15 05:52:41 yes, like pryo.. Dec 15 05:52:47 except its not pryo Dec 15 05:53:06 just boring lights Dec 15 05:53:24 awwww... Dec 15 05:53:31 I wanted to see things blow up Dec 15 05:53:39 oh, i get to blow stuff up Dec 15 05:53:43 from time to time Dec 15 05:53:52 I stopped doing live shows... Dec 15 05:54:25 sounds more like DMX Dec 15 05:54:33 ahh.. almost Dec 15 05:54:39 Artnet or E1.31 Dec 15 05:54:43 DMX over IP Dec 15 05:54:59 for lights its fine Dec 15 05:55:11 except I've had issues with chases Dec 15 05:55:24 using Artnet? Dec 15 05:55:28 or E1.31 Dec 15 05:55:31 or DMX? Dec 15 05:55:34 e1.31 Dec 15 05:55:58 the biggest show i've set up is almost 700 universes in E1.31 and i have pushed it at 40fps Dec 15 05:56:02 without issue Dec 15 05:56:18 a *lot* of led Dec 15 05:56:27 Cirque Dec 15 05:57:11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuZQFeFIp7A < -- if you are interested Dec 15 05:59:16 all gone slient, but be itneresed Dec 15 05:59:20 sorry its 7minuts long Dec 15 06:02:08 so, i'm thinking that i might just try to rebuild all my code in the angrstrom system Dec 15 06:02:15 hopefully i can get all the dependancys sorted Dec 15 06:03:48 now that you have come over from the dark side...I'm sure that someone will help you...(or at least have a good laugh) :D Dec 15 06:04:51 the entry curve on the raspbery is very shallow in comparison Dec 15 06:04:58 its very deceptive Dec 15 06:05:15 you don't have to learn much, but you can't do much either? Dec 15 06:05:31 i think they have a place Dec 15 06:05:52 they have really opened a lot of people minds up to possibliys Dec 15 06:06:40 i have a coupel of them bolted behind some LCD TV's Dec 15 06:07:22 doing what? Dec 15 06:07:30 media player Dec 15 06:07:55 bunch of photos and videos from some of our work Dec 15 06:08:39 competley out of the box, no mods, and a media player system XBMC i thihk its called Dec 15 06:08:51 yup - works on Beagle too Dec 15 06:09:01 oh, i'm sure it does Dec 15 06:09:45 the beagle is very appealing to me however in that it' ahrdware is much more open Dec 15 06:09:50 and there is no chip on chip tech Dec 15 06:10:37 thats the only thing I don't like about OMAP Dec 15 06:10:58 and LPDDR is still too expensive Dec 15 06:11:16 the am33x can take other memory Dec 15 06:11:27 POP trumps costs Dec 15 06:11:34 POP is the killer Dec 15 06:12:00 saving a possible spin due to DDR layout can offset cost of parts if the volume is low enough Dec 15 06:12:18 yes, ddr layout is tricky Dec 15 06:12:26 my projects are only 100odd runs Dec 15 06:12:39 i'm not into doing mass market stuff Dec 15 06:12:39 I hope my next one is thousands. Dec 15 06:13:03 having said that, i once built somethign thinking we woudl probalby make 60 Dec 15 06:13:06 would be nice if someone could publish graph of engineering/protocosts savings by using POP vs not using LPDDR Dec 15 06:13:13 last count, we've shipped 6000ish now Dec 15 06:14:00 im finally getting back to it, to make it easier to build Dec 15 06:18:16 so, are there any major ( or minor ) gotchas that cause people problems with the angstrom system? Dec 15 06:19:38 using or building? Dec 15 06:21:00 using, nope Dec 15 06:21:09 building...bring LOTS of HD space... Dec 15 06:21:41 and cores Dec 15 06:27:09 HD space, to burn, theres TB of it lying aroud the office. Dec 15 06:27:40 my typical builds take about 120GB Dec 15 06:29:40 what are you buidlign them on? Dec 15 06:31:02 <_av500_> ahoi Dec 15 06:31:55 festival for mothers with sons> Dec 15 06:31:56 ? Dec 15 06:34:56 @ka6sox, thanks for your time, and 'directions' Dec 15 06:35:00 much appreiacted Dec 15 06:35:49 _av500_: avast! Dec 15 06:37:07 andrew_mpg, today? http://www.flickr.com/photos/68099814@N00/8216012276/in/photostream Dec 15 06:37:20 but now I don't use HD space... Dec 15 06:37:38 build it in tmpfs (each as 256GB of RAM) Dec 15 06:39:22 rm_work is your friend Dec 15 06:39:27 just build it all on a ramdisk Dec 15 06:39:37 then flush Dec 15 06:39:57 I still have to transfer the sstate to the SSD Dec 15 06:40:07 nah, just have a very very very good UPS Dec 15 06:40:24 we have to "publish" the sstate :P Dec 15 06:41:37 publish the ramdisk ;) Dec 15 06:41:49 these aren't front facing Dec 15 06:42:09 so I have to push them up to the media server Dec 15 06:43:01 besides that...need to make room for a differnt build after that one. Dec 15 06:43:09 @ka6sox, ahoi is some festival.. Dec 15 06:43:24 reallly? Dec 15 06:43:36 north or south island? Dec 15 06:43:40 had to look it up on wikipedia, afer av500 mentioned it Dec 15 06:44:37 i dont' think there would be much of it in either the north or south, its some indian thing Dec 15 06:44:45 I see Dec 15 06:44:51 we'll put that in tommorrow's trivia quiz Dec 15 06:45:06 not in my wikipedia kemosabe Dec 15 06:45:38 hi, I need to access a adc pcf8591 via I2C. can someone help me out please? Dec 15 06:46:18 am compiling as per http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Linux_kernel Dec 15 06:46:43 kernel as per the link and have enabled pcf8591 support in make menuconfig Dec 15 06:47:15 make ARCH=arm uImage is giving me errors Dec 15 06:47:35 pastebin the log? Dec 15 06:47:51 (well the bits that matter) Dec 15 06:48:26 what does your qualified Linux consultant say? Dec 15 06:48:40 http://pastebin.com/s3uNiK22 Dec 15 06:48:46 trying on a x86 PC Dec 15 06:49:44 ds2, you have one of those? Dec 15 06:50:00 how does a linux consultant qualify to a standard that you woud approve of ds2? Dec 15 06:51:38 kannan, pastebin your kernel config Dec 15 06:53:33 can you please let me know where i can find that? (aplogies, am new to linux) Dec 15 06:54:05 @kannan, its tough here... Dec 15 06:54:36 tough crowd Dec 15 06:54:44 ls -l .config Dec 15 06:55:19 although that might not help here...I need to see where that stuffs it Dec 15 06:56:20 ka6sox: doesn't everyone? Dec 15 06:56:25 updated the same pastebin Dec 15 06:56:54 oh..sorry. i'll re post Dec 15 06:57:23 http://pastebin.com/QH5WVbgw Dec 15 06:57:35 lime ( real) , soda, mint, ice and ..... Dec 15 06:57:50 what is that drink andrew_mpg Dec 15 06:58:02 its a good one Dec 15 06:58:02 :-) Dec 15 06:58:23 long glass Dec 15 06:58:30 barcadi Dec 15 06:58:51 you put de lime in de coconut and drink dem both up. Dec 15 06:58:52 i must change my nick to my real nic Dec 15 06:59:09 <_av500_> emeb_mac: kiss that cat! Dec 15 06:59:20 it also works well with bombay sapphire gin Dec 15 06:59:34 and call me in the morning...wooo oooh oooh Dec 15 07:00:09 * ka6sox unscrews another bottle of Modesto's finest... Dec 15 07:00:14 _av500_: he's in the other room now. Dec 15 07:00:44 is it caturday yet? Dec 15 07:01:01 ka6sox, so i take it when you build the entire distro you are cross compiling on a *bigger* system Dec 15 07:01:09 what kind of bigger system are you using Dec 15 07:02:20 24cores@2.0Ghz/256GB RAM/4TB of HD Dec 15 07:02:31 /box Dec 15 07:02:53 thats quite a hunk of machine Dec 15 07:03:08 4 x 6 core? Dec 15 07:03:16 2X12core Dec 15 07:03:32 what kind of cooling? Dec 15 07:03:38 LOUD Dec 15 07:03:57 opteron? Dec 15 07:04:01 no Dec 15 07:04:04 Intel Dec 15 07:04:10 24 ARMv8's right?. :D Dec 15 07:04:16 heh Dec 15 07:04:23 I wish Dec 15 07:04:34 be quieter than these beasts Dec 15 07:05:16 wonder how fast these will be for Narcissus Dec 15 07:05:58 read off of SSD, assemble in ramdisk, write back to SSD till we ship them out Dec 15 07:08:42 kannan, did you say which bboard you are using this on? Dec 15 07:08:57 beagleboard C3 Dec 15 07:09:12 with beaglebuddy board r1 Dec 15 07:09:24 the only question is whether koen can keep it all in 200GB Dec 15 07:10:59 am the pcf8591 lists in i2c-detect at 0x48 Dec 15 07:11:18 I have no idea of why this thinks its a armv5t and a strongarm Dec 15 07:12:42 bbl...driving home (in the rain) Dec 15 07:12:49 @ka6sox, with 24 cores, how long does a built take Dec 15 07:12:58 were are you ka? Dec 15 07:13:14 Pacific Plate Dec 15 07:13:34 andrew_mpg, depends on what I'm building and whether I need to fetch or not Dec 15 07:13:56 oh, well, im on one side of the pacific plate Dec 15 07:13:58 as well Dec 15 07:14:09 might be a long long way from where you are Dec 15 07:14:13 ya Dec 15 07:14:21 are you on east or west coast? Dec 15 07:14:21 your not anywhere close, cause its not raining here Dec 15 07:14:35 bottom of north island Dec 15 07:14:42 so, i'm very near both east and west Dec 15 07:14:51 the fault line is only 1km away Dec 15 07:15:00 .6mile Dec 15 07:15:02 okay so are you east or west? Dec 15 07:15:10 east or west of what? Dec 15 07:15:14 the fault Dec 15 07:15:28 Im east of the fault Dec 15 07:15:38 I am about 40kms west of the fault Dec 15 07:15:55 somwehere in CA? Dec 15 07:16:02 ya Dec 15 07:17:08 can't see it because someone stuck a 2600m mountain in the way Dec 15 07:17:24 this is a game Dec 15 07:17:28 of guessing Dec 15 07:17:42 its part of the #beagle club culture Dec 15 07:17:51 to never give anything away easily Dec 15 07:18:22 andrew_mpg, it can build a bbone image in <1hr Dec 15 07:18:35 (if pseudo is done) Dec 15 07:18:43 ok, so, i understad the need for speed Dec 15 07:19:21 i did'nt realise that there would need to be such a computational requirement to do that job Dec 15 07:19:32 whats it doing? Dec 15 07:19:42 when we start regressing Angstrom with them I want to know sooner than when my 10yr old graduates from college Dec 15 07:20:52 whats that old moores law rule.. if a problem will take more than 2.7 years to solve Dec 15 07:20:58 your better to wait Dec 15 07:21:14 untill you can have some harware that kill allow you to do it. Dec 15 07:21:26 s/kill/will Dec 15 07:21:36 this is still better than waiting for HASP II to finally spit out the error in your fortran programme....24hrs later Dec 15 07:21:39 in less than 27 years Dec 15 07:21:51 old school Dec 15 07:21:56 HASP II Dec 15 07:22:32 I think I still have 1 or 2 cards left from a deck Dec 15 07:22:49 that predates me Dec 15 07:23:14 DEC PDP-11 was me Dec 15 07:23:31 I started on a PDP 8/e Dec 15 07:24:16 funny thing...its a bout the same size and weight as these 5 servers. Dec 15 07:24:36 i think it was a PDP11 94 Dec 15 07:25:18 but had some other stuff at home as a kid.. Sinclair ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64 Dec 15 07:25:36 lets see..that was 39yrs ago...sheesh Dec 15 07:25:55 ahh your a bit older than me then Dec 15 07:26:48 kannan, I have NO idea of what your build is trying to do. Dec 15 07:27:14 (mostly because I am tired and missing something that I'm sure someone who is more awake can find in 2 minutes) Dec 15 07:27:49 emeb_mac, its #caturday Dec 15 07:27:49 thanks ka6sox... Dec 15 07:28:30 time to stalk the kitty and take a sleeping pic. Dec 15 07:30:09 whoa HASP? Dec 15 07:30:32 people still use that? Dec 15 07:31:00 no, I was comparing using these builders vs using HASP when I was in College and waiting for results... Dec 15 07:31:33 (guess I woke him up from the dead) Dec 15 07:31:42 using? Dec 15 07:32:00 i think we have a different idea of HASP is Dec 15 07:32:13 HASP II is a JCL Dec 15 07:32:25 HASP II is a usb DRM stick Dec 15 07:32:47 guess we are talking about different things with the same name Dec 15 07:33:05 some CAD/CAM software come with a hasp stick Dec 15 07:33:08 no ds2, HASP II is a Job Control Language Dec 15 07:33:52 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Automatic_Spooling_Priority Dec 15 07:34:01 i know... but this is what I was refering to: https://safenet-inc.com/products/software-rights-management/sentinel-hasp-hl/ Dec 15 07:34:07 <_av500_> I hear your HASP and raise you CICS Dec 15 07:34:20 <_av500_> and we used HASP the dongle for a while Dec 15 07:34:37 _av500_: heh, really? thought you guys were high volume? Dec 15 07:36:49 <_av500_> ds2: yes Dec 15 07:36:59 why am I still up...and @ work! Dec 15 07:37:00 <_av500_> still, we have signed firmware images Dec 15 07:37:17 <_av500_> and the key has to be protected a bit at least Dec 15 07:37:21 ka6sox: you must be practicing for the ELC/SCaLeX week :) Dec 15 07:37:31 ds2, no kidding Dec 15 07:37:31 ohhh Dec 15 07:37:41 need toothpicks Dec 15 07:37:53 and High Speed Rail to get me from SFO to LAX Dec 15 07:38:26 speed boat via water might work Dec 15 07:38:59 I already took my 12hr speedboat ride UP the Amazon river thank you....I'll pass. Dec 15 07:39:16 how far did you get on the Amazon? Dec 15 07:39:23 Obidos Dec 15 07:39:30 thought it was a bunch of unnavigateable streams toward the origin? Dec 15 07:39:44 obiDOS - never heard of it. Dec 15 07:39:48 I was about 280miles up from the mouth Dec 15 07:39:58 emeb_mac, +1 Dec 15 07:40:26 must be what kenobi used in StarWars Dec 15 07:41:05 sounds nice Dec 15 07:41:05 the rough part was going the 26miles across the river.... Dec 15 07:41:26 if it was safer, I'd like to hike the mountains where the amazon begins Dec 15 07:41:26 at about a 45degree angle to the flow Dec 15 07:41:45 in Peru or Brazil? Dec 15 07:41:53 peru Dec 15 07:42:08 it should be a bunch of unnavigateable streams...hence the hiking Dec 15 07:42:18 you would be shot Dec 15 07:42:29 (or die of mercury poisoning) Dec 15 07:42:38 hence 'if it was safer....' Dec 15 07:42:47 not going to drink from it Dec 15 07:43:00 doesn't matter, is absorbed by the skin Dec 15 07:43:23 didn't think it'd be methyl mercury in that area Dec 15 07:43:28 isn't it all from mining? Dec 15 07:43:37 yes, GOLD... Dec 15 07:44:09 nitey-nite. Dec 15 07:45:20 yes but they use metallic mercury Dec 15 07:45:24 $HASP Dec 15 07:45:37 mmm, that was interesting, so someone has signed protected and encrypted images for the bone? Dec 15 07:45:37 don't breathe Dec 15 07:47:00 okay bed time...nitey nite Dec 15 09:55:04 hi! Dec 15 10:25:18 ds2: is ther any other kind? Dec 15 10:41:19 <_av500_> mranostay: you are drunk Dec 15 10:41:39 _av500_: guilty Dec 15 10:41:52 is there a problem? Dec 15 10:42:26 gm Dec 15 10:42:36 christmas party Dec 15 10:43:02 * mranostay hurls a beer bottle at woglinde_ice950 Dec 15 10:43:08 maybee I can waive to av500 from the ice Dec 15 10:43:36 which sort? Dec 15 10:48:04 * mranostay hurls a Spaten at _av500_ Dec 15 10:58:26 klappspaten Dec 15 13:01:54 I want to know how does the beaglebone find re resolution of the LCD cape when it is connected? Dec 15 13:02:36 *resolution Dec 15 13:08:27 I want to know how does the beaglebone find resolution of the LCD cape when it is connected? Dec 15 16:28:49 <_av500_> all that Sir stuff makes me dizzy Dec 15 16:31:42 yes sir Dec 15 16:50:32 hello sir _av500_ Dec 15 16:52:03 <_av500_> attaboy! Dec 15 16:53:09 whats this, trumpets in the background? Dec 15 16:59:43 <_av500_> kids these days: http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=2686 Dec 15 17:01:15 hehe Dec 15 17:09:57 34yr old "kid"? Dec 15 17:20:34 <_av500_> its even rpi compatible Dec 15 17:23:51 and a Spartan6 :D Dec 15 17:37:03 * djlewis uploads images of his old s-100 stuff to web site. Dec 15 17:56:16 <_av500_> url? Dec 15 18:05:31 av500, the pic that was embedded Dec 15 18:05:41 http://bunniefoo.com/novena/novena_depop_clean_labels.jpg Dec 15 18:05:56 <_av500_> ? Dec 15 18:06:16 <_av500_> ka6sox-away: that was for djlewis Dec 15 18:06:34 k Dec 15 18:55:44 _av500_: http://djlewis.us/files/s100/boards/boards.htm Dec 15 18:56:02 kinda preliminary staging Dec 15 18:56:20 thats about half the boards Dec 15 18:56:30 rest are in two s-10 computers Dec 15 18:56:36 s-100 Dec 15 19:24:43 tarbell disk controller...mmmmmm Dec 15 20:16:33 Hey, I'm trying to get angtrom to compile for my beagleboard for the first time following http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners -- for part 7 where it says to get uImage and uboot.bin -- uImage is 0 byte and uboot.bin doesn't exist at that link, am I overlooking something? Dec 15 20:34:53 Has anyone tries https://github.com/radioline/node_airtunes from a beaglebone? Dec 15 20:36:03 Only getting a split of static when I do. Although it's working fine when I run it from my os x box. It being the example: cat sample.pcm | nodejs play_stdin.js --host 10.0.1.3 Dec 15 21:01:41 oooh node-airtunes Dec 15 21:01:43 epic Dec 15 21:02:39 awww, client not server Dec 15 21:04:26 There are servers out there too ;D Dec 15 22:37:43 morning Dec 15 22:37:51 * mranostay looks at clock Dec 15 22:37:54 afternoon Dec 15 22:53:32 av500: building a laptop? Dec 16 00:17:29 mranostay: look up UGT Dec 16 00:18:10 ka6sox-away: UGT? Dec 16 00:18:32 let me find it for you :D Dec 16 00:19:22 heh Dec 16 00:19:29 this --> http://thinkmoult.com/ugt.html ? Dec 16 00:20:06 http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Dec 16 00:20:31 yes, that one Dec 16 00:26:53 * mranostay sips his tea and some Aspirin Dec 16 00:27:12 ka6sox-away: so what apps are writing for the FPGA cape? Dec 16 00:27:33 * ka6sox-away remembers the last comment mranostay said last night... Dec 16 00:27:44 mranostay, "apps"... Dec 16 00:27:46 ? Dec 16 00:28:18 deja vu Dec 16 00:28:40 ka6sox-away: ok what are you going to load onto the FPGA to make it useful :) Dec 16 00:28:59 oh, i have a Pong Game I was going to load up in it.. Dec 16 00:29:23 overkill a bit? :) Dec 16 00:29:31 just a bit Dec 16 00:29:59 for S/G I was going to load up a AES Decoder... Dec 16 00:30:29 but that requires me to get the GPMC happy first Dec 16 00:33:00 if I do it right it should only be 13clock cycles behind. Dec 16 00:36:03 mranostay, you have something good to use it for? Dec 16 00:39:32 not really.. probably not thinking hard enough though Dec 16 00:40:00 started coding the PRU applications for nixie cape Dec 16 00:40:25 kewl... Dec 16 00:40:39 what voltage on the anode for that? Dec 16 00:41:13 it is a VFD tube techically.. Dec 16 00:41:33 so i have it at 36V (rated higher) Dec 16 00:41:52 5V for the control grid Dec 16 01:43:58 afternoon **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 16 02:59:58 2012