**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 16 02:59:58 2012 Dec 16 04:59:14 hi emeb_mac Dec 16 04:59:22 hi mranostay Dec 16 04:59:42 having a good weekend? Dec 16 05:00:23 minus the hangover recovery yes :) Dec 16 05:01:36 emeb_mac: are you going to have any access to the FPGA cape minus the GPMC interface? Dec 16 05:02:24 mranostay: not sure what you just asked. Dec 16 05:03:05 emeb_mac: how many logic outputs does this FPGA have? Dec 16 05:04:07 i was thinking it would make sense to hook up a few to the PRU input pins Dec 16 05:04:11 mranostay, you can use i2c or SPI? Dec 16 05:04:17 Ah - 24 bits from the FPGA are brought out to a 28-pin 0.1" 2-row header Dec 16 05:04:27 yup Dec 16 05:04:58 but if you don't want to use the GPMC then you can route anything else to the GPMC GPIO pins Dec 16 05:04:58 ah that works as well Dec 16 05:05:19 * mranostay kicks cat off keyboard Dec 16 05:05:53 so if the PRU can talk to those signals on P8 connector then you can go wild Dec 16 05:06:12 yup Dec 16 05:06:21 yeah it can Dec 16 05:06:34 and you can still do low-bandwidth comm to the FPGA thru SPI0 Dec 16 05:09:10 for example - I see that many of the pins on P8 can carry MMC data. So if you wanted to design an SDIO peripheral into the FPGA and hook to it via MMC that would work too. Dec 16 05:09:55 (I've got a full list of signals that are routed to the FPGA on the web page - http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/embedded/bcc/index.html) Dec 16 06:47:19 oh fun the pru memory example is the old mmap /dev/mem Dec 16 06:49:57 yup Dec 16 10:43:58 <_av500_> g Dec 16 10:44:00 <_av500_> m Dec 16 19:41:55 morning gentlemen and trolls Dec 16 23:35:50 Hmm, so i'm trying to boot up my beagleboard for the first time... got everything configured (hopefully) correctly on my SD card... yet all i'm getting on my screen is an orange beagleboard.org logo Dec 16 23:35:53 any ideas? Dec 16 23:38:30 see what the serial console says Dec 16 23:47:57 :( I didn't get one, though I suppose it's probably a good idea to at this point Dec 16 23:55:53 Does anyone here have experience with using Narcissus for the beagleboard? Dec 16 23:57:17 sure Dec 16 23:57:44 When booting up a new image from Narcissus on my board for the first time, what can I expect to see? Dec 16 23:58:07 I understand that it's supposed to take awhile, but I only see a BB logo, though there's some LED activity on my board Dec 16 23:58:18 depends on which mlo, uboot, and uimage you use Dec 16 23:59:54 if you have an orange screen with a beagle logo it's probably an old MLO Dec 17 00:00:10 yeah? Dec 17 00:00:29 My screen just went black but the LEDs are still flashing... I'm guessing there's something wrong with my files Dec 17 00:01:07 not necessarily, some uImage verisions don't output anything until the kernel is fully booted Dec 17 00:01:35 you really should get a serial cable though Dec 17 00:01:57 Yeah, I'm definitely going to get one Dec 17 00:02:28 Well, the LEDs are still blinking, but the screen's black... following what you said I'm probably going to let it sit for some time Dec 17 00:03:34 kind of hard to say what's happening without serial output Dec 17 00:03:46 Yeah =/ Dec 17 00:03:58 I guess i'll look online for a serial cable Dec 17 00:06:41 Meh, might be a long shot, but do you have any idea how long the first boot might take? It's a console version of Angstrom following http://treyweaver.blogspot.com/2010/10/installing-angstrom-on-beagleboard-xm.html to get the files Dec 17 00:10:35 I've never had beagle boot if the files are copied in that order to the boot partition Dec 17 00:11:26 Oh? That's no good! Dec 17 00:11:38 the order that works for me is MLO... u-boot.bin.. everything else is not dependent on order Dec 17 00:12:04 So MLO must go in first? And then u-boot.bin? Dec 17 00:12:19 that's the only way I've been successfull Dec 17 00:12:21 Wasn't aware that there was a dependancy like that Dec 17 00:13:26 perhaps I'll just retry http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ Dec 17 00:13:35 not 100% sure about u-boot needing to be second, but it's never failed me, and orderings have Dec 17 00:13:43 though I'm suspicious that u-boot and mlo are both 0 bytes Dec 17 00:14:56 is it a symlink? Dec 17 00:15:26 that would be my guess Dec 17 00:15:28 Oh, not on my sd card, but on that website Dec 17 00:15:47 wait nevermind i'm silly Dec 17 00:15:50 it's not 0 bytes Dec 17 00:16:35 I think the website shows the size as 0 because it is a symlink in that directory Dec 17 00:16:45 yeah you're right Dec 17 00:17:07 whatever, i'll just let my current setup sit, and ill go and get a serial cable, thanks for the help Dec 17 00:17:47 btw have you gotten a usb adapter to work with yours? Dec 17 00:17:53 your serial cable that is Dec 17 00:18:28 yeah, my host machines don't have serial ports Dec 17 00:18:48 kk good, mine doesn't either Dec 17 00:25:20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200515 Dec 17 00:25:27 this should work as a serial adapter, yeah? Dec 17 00:25:47 wait, no wrong pin number Dec 17 00:26:06 ...or is it Dec 17 00:26:07 this will work if your motherboard has a serial header Dec 17 00:26:42 do you have an xM or a classic beagleboard? Dec 17 00:26:44 classic Dec 17 00:27:04 It doesn't have a serial header, I'm just shopping around with one that fits on my board right now Dec 17 00:28:16 you /may/ have to do some soldering if you buy a cable off the shelf, because of the pin ordering on the connector Dec 17 00:28:27 bleh Dec 17 00:28:35 thurbad: not standard? Dec 17 00:28:57 if you're not comfortable with that order from special comp, they sell cables that work for the classic Dec 17 00:29:02 I pulled a similar cable off a 486 and it worked on my newer motherboard. I checked the pinout. Mabye I was lucky Dec 17 00:29:30 alan_o: sometimes they alternate top to bottom, sometimes they fill the top, then the bottom Dec 17 00:29:36 http://specialcomp.com/beagleboard/ ? Dec 17 00:29:49 I was looking around at that site, but it always looked sketchy xD Dec 17 00:30:21 Cykon: I haven't heard anything bad about them. I met one of their guys one time too. Dec 17 00:30:34 yeah, they're a little pricey... but they should work without changing pin assignment Dec 17 00:30:53 Hmm, perhaps I'll order from them then Dec 17 00:31:00 I've ordered from them before... they screwed up the shipping initially but everything got sorted out Dec 17 00:31:20 ah Dec 17 00:31:41 specifically they didn't ship overnight like we paid for Dec 17 00:31:55 yeah that would be a paint Dec 17 00:31:56 pain^^ Dec 17 00:32:15 don't forget a null connector either Dec 17 00:32:21 null connecter? Dec 17 00:33:06 yes when connecting serial to serial for communication you often need a null connector in the middle to flip Tx and Rx Dec 17 00:33:20 ahhh gotcha Dec 17 00:34:03 xM handles that for you but classic doesn't Dec 17 00:34:42 that's the one with the nice little connecter isnt it? Dec 17 00:34:50 yes Dec 17 00:34:59 xD oh well Dec 17 00:35:56 Hmm, out of curiousity... since I haven't really begun messing around with actual programs for my board... is it possible to use the expansions slot as pin headers Dec 17 00:36:07 like, if I wanted to hook up some LEDs to it Dec 17 00:36:11 I should be able to do that right? Dec 17 00:37:35 yes, just be careful to not short things and use resistors on LEDs Dec 17 00:37:49 awesome, thanks Dec 17 00:45:33 boor board is still just flashing away Dec 17 00:45:36 poor^^ Dec 17 00:50:52 hi Dec 17 00:51:16 How will i know that beagleboard-xm is the current and latest version when i buy a the board? Dec 17 00:53:06 man my dns is being all lame tonight :/ Dec 17 00:53:09 btw thurbad, thanks for the tip for the pinouts Dec 17 00:53:16 the one from newegg had 1 3 5 ... Dec 17 00:53:23 and i'm pretty sure the one that the bb needs is 1 2 3 ... Dec 17 00:53:50 what dns do you use? Dec 17 00:55:07 time warner's default Dec 17 00:55:16 how will i know if beagleboard-xm is the latest? should i see a sticker on the board with C1? Dec 17 00:55:20 is that the latest? Dec 17 00:55:40 not sure check the wiki for the latest revision Dec 17 00:56:06 but c is the latest one right? Dec 17 00:56:51 not sure :( Dec 17 00:57:38 since this one i can see a sticker with c1 on it have a look http://www.ebay.com/itm/BeagleBoard-BB-XM-00-Rev-C-Development-Platform-/390457645985?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae916dba1 Dec 17 00:58:56 pretty sure there's revision c1 c2 etc Dec 17 00:59:00 so i dont know Dec 17 00:59:24 okay thanks Dec 17 01:05:28 anyone knows since the wiki is not so helpful Dec 17 01:05:41 beagleboard-xm boards is it c1 c2 the latest? Dec 17 01:06:05 when you buy a board how will you know that it is the latest? is the sticker with c1 on it the latest one? Dec 17 01:07:47 Out of curiosity, whats the reason behind wanting the latest one? Dec 17 01:07:55 revisions are usually just small changes Dec 17 01:08:10 the core features should be the same... usually Dec 17 01:09:14 anyone knows how can i find out that the beagleaboard-xm is the latest revision? when i buy a board for example how can i know that it is the latest revision? Dec 17 01:12:39 gabriel_: my rev. A2 has a white sticker on the top of the board that says A2 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 17 02:59:58 2012