**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 20 03:00:00 2012
Dec 20 03:16:47 <alan_o> without mru stirring the pot, this channel has been dead :(
Dec 20 03:16:55 <alan_o> mranostay needs to step up his trolling level.
Dec 20 03:16:55 <prpplague> hehe
Dec 20 03:17:02 <prpplague> alan_o: where has he been?
Dec 20 03:17:19 <alan_o> I thought I heard someone say vacation one time.
Dec 20 03:17:25 <djlewis> some suspect the barmaids got him
Dec 20 03:20:24 <prpplague> hehe
Dec 20 03:25:02 <djlewis> gnite guys
Dec 20 05:24:55 <Lerner> Hi could you be kind enough to tellme where I can buy a jtag for a beagle board
Dec 20 05:34:16 <spacekitteh> ok then, help me figure out why the 3.8 kernel won't compile! :D
Dec 20 05:34:27 <spacekitteh> www.bpaste.net/show/65483
Dec 20 05:35:17 <spacekitteh> for the beaglebone ^^
Dec 20 05:57:16 <spacekitteh> aaaaaaanyone? :3
Dec 20 08:05:22 <mranostay> someone say barmaids?
Dec 20 08:10:23 <mranostay> LetoThe2nd: you are going us a warning about the end of days right? :)
Dec 20 08:10:32 <LetoThe2nd> ?
Dec 20 08:10:50 * LetoThe2nd need to run off, some hardware chacking
Dec 20 08:10:59 <mranostay> LetoThe2nd: Mayan calendar.. europe also goes first in these things
Dec 20 08:11:03 <KotH> moin boys
Dec 20 08:11:17 <KotH> mranostay: actually, aztec calendar :)
Dec 20 08:11:42 <mranostay> you guys are the watchdog timers
Dec 20 08:11:51 <mranostay> i expect a ping in here every 20 minutes :P
Dec 20 08:15:45 * Russ is actually working on some hibernation restore code for omap wdt…
Dec 20 08:16:34 * mranostay polishs his PRU demo
Dec 20 08:16:42 <KotH> Russ: trying to hybernate trough the appocalypse?
Dec 20 08:17:17 <mranostay> too bad i won't be able to give this talk :P
Dec 20 08:18:31 <Russ> hmm..elc talk, preparing your computers for the apocalypse
Dec 20 08:18:54 <mranostay> you kid
Dec 20 08:19:29 <Russ> aka, how to get hibernation working on arm
Dec 20 08:19:39 <mranostay> bitbanging BoF
Dec 20 08:19:58 <mranostay> i should submit  that as a joke
Dec 20 08:20:32 <KotH> i wouldnt be surprised if you'd have many attendants
Dec 20 08:20:41 <Russ> if you include a demo of bit banged composite video, it would be taken quite seriously
Dec 20 08:21:01 <KotH> Russ: that has been done with vga, actually :)
Dec 20 08:23:04 <mranostay> #bitbang the world!
Dec 20 08:24:09 <Russ> throw in block gpio and you can bitbang the world
Dec 20 08:25:52 <Gopal> Hi, I'm stuck up getting  ubuntu 12.04 to boot on beagleboard. Can anyone help please?
Dec 20 08:26:17 <mranostay> hello mr vague
Dec 20 08:35:47 <KotH> mranostay: http://imgur.com/gallery/ZgHDW
Dec 20 08:41:20 <mranostay> why is that directed at me?!!?
Dec 20 08:41:36 <mranostay> ah the CA one
Dec 20 08:42:21 <mranostay> ah so i always forget -40C and -40F is the crossover point
Dec 20 08:44:48 <Russ> It'd be really rare for it to drop below freezing here
Dec 20 08:45:13 <mranostay> Russ: and everyone is baby about it :)
Dec 20 08:45:29 <mranostay> i love the winter coats people are wearing
Dec 20 08:45:37 <Russ> phoenix got much, much colder
Dec 20 08:49:42 * KotH has been in london in august
Dec 20 08:49:49 <KotH> i cannot imagine anywhere being colder
Dec 20 08:51:03 <KotH> WAHHHH!
Dec 20 08:51:15 <KotH> c++ code that uses fixed size char arrays to store strings!
Dec 20 08:51:23 <KotH> how.. can...they.. do...that...to..me...
Dec 20 08:54:30 <mranostay> KotH: life sucks deal with it
Dec 20 08:57:53 <ynezz> he has never seen some sample code (c) Microsoft probably :p
Dec 20 09:00:47 <KotH> mranostay: it sucks even more: the code has been originally written for VC++ 2000
Dec 20 09:01:11 <KotH> mranostay: using MFC and other abominations
Dec 20 09:02:40 <ynezz> yea! enjoy that
Dec 20 09:04:43 <mranostay> KotH: break out the alcohol
Dec 20 09:05:02 <mranostay> can't be worst the horrible vxworks stuff i'm stuck with :)
Dec 20 09:06:03 <mranostay> sleepy time
Dec 20 09:06:06 <KotH> mranostay: dunno... has it been written by someone who neither knows c nor c++? sticking to some stupid coding guidelines etc?
Dec 20 09:06:23 <KotH> sleep well... and dont freeze to death ;)
Dec 20 09:18:49 <Gopal> Following instructions from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Method_2:_Use_the_NetInstall_method
Dec 20 09:19:09 <Gopal> The file uEnv.txt has a command mmcroot=/dev/ram0 rw
Dec 20 09:19:34 <Gopal> it shows some error as mmc MMC sub system usage mmc read..........
Dec 20 09:19:49 <Gopal> mmcroot command isn't recognized by this bootloader uboot
Dec 20 09:20:14 <Gopal> uboot version is 2012.10
Dec 20 11:00:47 <ths> hello ! i'm always on my DVI bug ;-)
Dec 20 11:05:21 <ths> i saw on DMESG "Could not look up dss_hdmi hw_mod"
Dec 20 11:06:52 <ths> there is some answer here http://dics.voicecontrol.ro/process_mails/arata_discutia/169876/Which_git_to_clone_for_testing_prior_to_submitting_bugs.html, but i don't understand
Dec 20 11:07:22 <ths> particulary how do: Option 1: Stay with omapfb  CONFIG_FB_OMAP2=m -> CONFIG_FB_OMAP2=y disable: CONFIG_DRM_OMAP
Dec 20 11:12:41 <ths> nobody can help... i hope to see this BB works before the end of world
Dec 20 12:34:58 <Crofton|work> LetoThe2nd, http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/weird-wide-web/sweden-heavy-metal-music-addiction-disability-benefits
Dec 20 12:36:02 <LetoThe2nd> Crofton|work: yeah, he was in german tv already some time ago
Dec 20 12:38:45 <panto> hey
Dec 20 13:01:56 <spacekitteh> -++++++
Dec 20 13:02:11 <spacekitteh> -+//,lvg=[[[[[[[[[[
Dec 20 13:02:14 <spacekitteh> sorry
Dec 20 13:02:15 <spacekitteh> cat attack
Dec 20 14:53:52 <alan_o> http://www.i-programmer.info/news/91-hardware/5228-rasbery-pi-gets-an-app-store.html
Dec 20 15:11:02 <av500> alan_o: you are late
Dec 20 15:11:12 <av500> we ridiculed that days ago
Dec 20 15:12:33 <alan_o> av500: oh :( . I checked the log for today before posting it. sorry for the noise (and it's noise :) )
Dec 20 15:21:48 <mranostay> morning trolls
Dec 20 15:22:16 <av500> yeah
Dec 20 15:22:43 <mranostay> alan_o: for shame
Dec 20 15:23:15 * alan_o hangs head
Dec 20 15:29:11 <mranostay> av500: so nothing happening in Europe yet? no earthquakes, etc, etc
Dec 20 15:29:30 <alan_o> mranostay: isn't that tomorrow?
Dec 20 15:29:31 <koen> mranostay: winter is coming
Dec 20 15:31:20 <mranostay> alan_o: starts at midnight tonight in whatever timezone you are i think
Dec 20 15:32:25 <ths> hello ! i'm always on my DVI bug ;-) I saw on DMESG "Could not look up dss_hdmi hw_mod"  there is some answer here http://dics.voicecontrol.ro/process_mails/arata_discutia/169876/Which_git_to_clone_for_testing_prior_to_submitting_bugs.html,  but i don't understand particulary how do: Option 1: Stay with omapfb  CONFIG_FB_OMAP2=m  It needed to compile new version of kernel ?
Dec 20 15:32:26 <mranostay> av500: stealing from other posts? really now? :)
Dec 20 15:32:34 <av500> :)
Dec 20 15:53:42 <mdp> koen, weather change is a sign that IT is coming!
Dec 20 15:54:10 <mdp> and *not* the sysadmins!
Dec 20 16:01:16 <koen> av500 knows *IT*
Dec 20 16:01:21 <av500> yes
Dec 20 16:01:28 <av500> *IT* is coming
Dec 20 16:01:34 <koen> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/19
Dec 20 16:05:35 <mdp> hehe
Dec 20 16:09:42 <mranostay> er am i missing something?
Dec 20 16:16:46 <mranostay> Crofton|work: damn you :)
Dec 20 16:16:53 <mranostay> i am not that young
Dec 20 16:17:07 <prpplague> Crofton|work: damn you!
Dec 20 16:17:22 <prpplague> Crofton|work: not sure what the damn was for, but it felt good saying this morning
Dec 20 16:17:29 <mdp> bless the purple plague!
Dec 20 16:17:49 <prpplague> yea damn right
Dec 20 16:18:28 <wmat> heh
Dec 20 16:19:16 <KotH> good morning prpplague
Dec 20 16:19:29 <KotH> everything purple on the other side of the big pond?
Dec 20 16:19:30 <prpplague> greetings
Dec 20 16:20:42 <mranostay> prpplague lives life through purple tinted glasses
Dec 20 16:21:14 <prpplague> mdp: don't know of a good kernel driver example that has to do about 20 i2c register writes for init/probe? i'm struggling to clean up a driver that has a lot of i2c init involved
Dec 20 16:21:19 <prpplague> mranostay: indeed
Dec 20 16:22:36 <wmat> I always suspected prpplague was Prince
Dec 20 16:22:44 <prpplague> hehe
Dec 20 16:25:23 <LetoThe2nd> the prince of darkness?
Dec 20 16:25:33 <wmat> whenever I choose to do an Ubuntu distribtion upgrade, I get the distinct feeling the devs want me to switch to some other distro. It always breaks my graphics drivers. Always.
Dec 20 16:26:26 * wmat just needed to get that out there, even though it's way OT
Dec 20 16:27:14 <panto> hi prpplague
Dec 20 16:28:03 <prpplague> panto: greetings
Dec 20 16:28:13 <prpplague> panto: what's cookin in your neck of the woods?
Dec 20 16:28:19 <prpplague> LetoThe2nd: hehe
Dec 20 16:28:51 <panto> prpplague, well, it's the season of christmas cookies
Dec 20 16:28:53 * LetoThe2nd hands prpplague a bat
Dec 20 16:29:10 <panto> delicious christmas cookies are delicious
Dec 20 16:30:23 <mranostay> panto: i don't even know you anymore man :P
Dec 20 16:32:26 <mranostay> hey mag :) --> http://www.business-standard.com/generalnews/news/thieves-arrested-for-stealing-6-million-poundsmaple-syrup/97290/
Dec 20 16:33:03 <koen> that reminds me
Dec 20 16:33:14 <koen> need to find a local store that has maple syrup in stock
Dec 20 16:33:38 <Crofton|work> koen, some was asking about a missing directory on the Angstrom feeds yesterday
Dec 20 16:34:08 * mag looks
Dec 20 16:34:40 <mag> mranostay: heh
Dec 20 16:34:54 <panto> hey mag
Dec 20 16:34:55 <mag> that's a lot of syrup
Dec 20 16:34:58 <mag> hi panto
Dec 20 16:40:12 <mranostay> gigamon is possibly the worst company i've ever seen
Dec 20 16:45:03 <prpplague> koen: ended up getting $14k for my barrett, sold in 24 hours
Dec 20 16:45:18 <prpplague> panto: cookies!
Dec 20 16:46:41 <prpplague> wmat: ping
Dec 20 16:46:46 <mranostay> prpplague: heh panic buyers
Dec 20 16:46:50 <prpplague> mranostay: indeed
Dec 20 16:47:41 * KotH stabs mranostay 
Dec 20 16:48:30 * mranostay walks across the room for his .357 :P
Dec 20 16:48:31 <KotH> prpplague: wow.. quite a bit of money for a "simple" rifle
Dec 20 16:49:00 <prpplague> KotH: hehe, barrett isn't a simple rifle
Dec 20 16:49:20 <mranostay> KotH: you haven't seen one have you
Dec 20 16:49:49 <KotH> mranostay: i know how .50 rifles look like, but i've never seen a barrett, yes
Dec 20 16:49:50 <mranostay> so much metal since you are launching a small mortar shell effectively :)
Dec 20 16:50:26 <mdp> prpplague: nice! gotta love these spikes in the market
Dec 20 16:50:34 <mranostay> KotH: it is semi automatic not bolt that is way
Dec 20 16:50:37 <mranostay> *why
Dec 20 16:50:48 <KotH> not bolt?
Dec 20 16:51:08 <mranostay> no 10 rounds mag iirc
Dec 20 16:51:31 <KotH> single load? (or how that is called in english)
Dec 20 16:51:53 <mranostay> that model is $1500
Dec 20 16:51:54 <mdp> prpplague: I have a bunch of magazines from the last mag ban...took the springs out so they last...too bad manufacturing is up so high those won't spike for a while.
Dec 20 16:51:56 <mranostay> or was
Dec 20 16:54:36 * KotH wonders where he could shoot with a barrett if he had one
Dec 20 16:54:52 <KotH> virtually all shooting ranges in .ch are designed for 7.6mm at most
Dec 20 16:57:46 * jkridner wonders how many people have seen http://www.silica.com/product/silica-pengwyn-board.html
Dec 20 16:58:52 <mranostay> and jkridner wanders in!
Dec 20 16:59:44 <prpplague> jkridner: interesting
Dec 20 16:59:50 <mranostay> KotH: i own one of these (since we are talking swiss + firearms) --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K31
Dec 20 17:03:01 <mdp> KotH, you can visit our club range ;)
Dec 20 17:03:35 <KotH> mranostay: nice
Dec 20 17:03:42 <KotH> mdp: uhm...that's a bit far...
Dec 20 17:03:56 <KotH> mdp: and taking my sg550 with me would be difficult
Dec 20 17:04:06 <KotH> mdp: especially as it is full automatic :)
Dec 20 17:04:14 <mdp> KotH: it is unfortunate, but anybody with a Barrett can come with me as a guest as long as I get to shoot it
Dec 20 17:04:23 <KotH> hehe
Dec 20 17:04:25 <wmat> jkridner: no JTAG?
Dec 20 17:04:25 <mdp> KotH: it's ok! ;)
Dec 20 17:04:36 <mdp> "it's all legal here"
Dec 20 17:04:44 <KotH> mdp: hmm?
Dec 20 17:04:55 <KotH> mdp: full automatic weapons being legal for civilians to have?
Dec 20 17:05:01 <mranostay> KotH: not really
Dec 20 17:05:28 <mranostay> KotH: you have to be rich to even think about it
Dec 20 17:05:40 * KotH is far from being rich
Dec 20 17:05:45 * KotH is still a poor student
Dec 20 17:06:02 <mdp> mranostay, lies
Dec 20 17:06:12 <mdp> mranostay, it's for the 10%, yes
Dec 20 17:07:06 <KotH> mdp: i went to highschool in .ch, which only ~10% of the students do... do i quallify? ;)
Dec 20 17:07:10 <mdp> KotH: there are no new product full auto weapons available for civilian purchase here. for the existing ones, you need a special tax stamp, lots of forms. since the pool of these has been restricted, you can imagine that the price has gone up
Dec 20 17:07:45 <KotH> mdp: how about traveling with a full automatic weapon? :)
Dec 20 17:07:50 <mdp> KotH: so for most people it's just impractical and if you want the burst thrill you go rent one at the range.
Dec 20 17:08:15 <KotH> mdp: had that already when i was 20...
Dec 20 17:08:27 <mdp> KotH: you can ask mranostay about the details of that as I find the Class 3 restrictions to be impractical to bother
Dec 20 17:08:37 <mdp> the same apply to silencers and such
Dec 20 17:08:39 <KotH> mdp: "we have these 3000 bullets left...everyone take as many cartriges as you can carry!"
Dec 20 17:09:32 <KotH> first time i've ever seen that someone needed to dip his rifle into water :)
Dec 20 17:09:50 <mdp> hehe
Dec 20 17:09:51 <KotH> (and still the only time)
Dec 20 17:10:00 <guillaume_> hey, i'm looking for a configuration option in menuconfig to prevent loading of modules beyond a certain point, does this ring a bell ?
Dec 20 17:10:27 <KotH> guillaume_: sounds rather like a sysctl thingy
Dec 20 17:10:33 <KotH> guillaume_: or sysfs
Dec 20 17:10:36 <KotH> guillaume_: or proc
Dec 20 17:10:39 <KotH> guillaume_: or something like that
Dec 20 17:10:47 <jkridner> wmat: odd....  not even a header?
Dec 20 17:12:12 <guillaume_> KotH, well the one who told me about it isn't sure either. I'll explore other options, ty
Dec 20 17:12:30 <KotH> guillaume_: hmm...
Dec 20 17:12:42 <KotH> guillaume_: i must admit, i've never heard about a way to prevent the kernel from loading modules
Dec 20 17:12:56 <KotH> guillaume_: but then, that doesnt mean anything as i'm not the most experienced linux user
Dec 20 17:13:30 <KotH> guillaume_: but if there is such an option that allows runtime configuration of module loading, then it should be accessible using sysfs/procfs/sysctl
Dec 20 17:13:43 <KotH> guillaume_: anything else wouldnt make sense
Dec 20 17:16:59 <mranostay> off to the salt mines
Dec 20 17:17:54 <KotH> out into the rain!
Dec 20 17:25:02 <mdp> mranostay, lol...spread the good salt!
Dec 20 19:56:17 <alan_o> So no videos yet from ELCE?
Dec 20 19:56:25 <mranostay> alan_o: they have been up
Dec 20 19:57:18 <alan_o> So they're not on the elinux page, not on the LF page, and not on free electrons, that I can find. I'll search harder......
Dec 20 20:05:03 <alan_o> mranostay: ok, so I've got nothing.
Dec 20 20:05:06 <alan_o> You're trolling me right?
Dec 20 20:05:15 <alan_o> either that, or I'm bad at the internet.
Dec 20 20:05:25 <alan_o> the latter is true either way, by the way.
Dec 20 20:34:24 <jkridner> wmat: do you know anything about the ELC-E videos alan_o is asking about?
Dec 20 20:34:49 <jkridner> http://elinux.org/ELCE_Europe_2012_Presentations still has a notice they will be available.
Dec 20 20:35:00 <wmat> jkridner: as far as I know, elc-e 2012 video hasn't been published yet
Dec 20 20:35:18 * wmat checks free elctrons site
Dec 20 20:36:34 <wmat> jkridner: http://free-electrons.com/community/videos/conferences/ they seem to stop at ELCE2011
Dec 20 20:38:31 <mranostay> i swear i saw them up
Dec 20 20:38:51 <alan_o> mranostay: did you watch yours? ;)
Dec 20 20:39:48 <alan_o> That's what I'm interested in... watching MINE! (yes, narcissist).
Dec 20 20:40:50 <alan_o> mranostay: LF put the keynotes up. Maybe that's what you saw. I saw that one with the guy who's in the picture with you. Whatever his name is.
Dec 20 20:43:22 <mdp> that old guy sitting next to mranostay?
Dec 20 20:43:29 * jkridner keeps forgetting why the "vmlinux.o: Invalid argument" issue keeps coming up when building the kernel
Dec 20 20:43:36 <alan_o> mdp: yeah yeah, that one
Dec 20 20:44:05 <mdp> I suspect the picture was taken because they each had the conf t-shirts on
Dec 20 20:44:16 <mdp> nfc otherwise
Dec 20 20:44:36 <alan_o> jkridner: haven't seen that one. I usually get weird stuff when I try to get clever with my own GNUmakefile.
Dec 20 20:44:59 <jkridner> I think it is something in the angstrom toolchain environment script
Dec 20 20:45:16 <jkridner> I think I work around it by having a clean environment and putting the toolchain in the path without sourcing the script...
Dec 20 20:45:19 <jkridner> gonna try.
Dec 20 20:46:01 <mdp> wmat, there's always been some "processing lag" with the very fine free electrons video coverage
Dec 20 20:46:11 <mdp> sometimes months AFAICT
Dec 20 20:46:57 <wmat> no doubt. I never nag them, as I'm sure it's a tonne of work.
Dec 20 20:47:09 <mdp> at ELC-us 2012 there was the LF video coverage that came out within 1 day of the conf...but that was directly LF sponsored videos and that didn't happen at elc-e
Dec 20 20:48:10 <mdp> wmat, right..in fact, they covered a ton of sessions at elc-us 2012 regardless of the LF videography going on..and it's the only reason my session has a video with audio...since there was a technical glitch with LF's audio pickup in my room.
Dec 20 20:48:30 <mdp> wmat, so I was happy once again that they were there being redundant ;)
Dec 20 20:48:45 <wmat> heh, perhaps LF should have just contracted video coverage to them
Dec 20 20:49:40 <mdp> the LF product (in the case where it work where I was probably the only one to experince a glitch) is a much better "product"
Dec 20 20:50:05 <mdp> i.e. they had a professional setup
Dec 20 20:50:12 <wmat> no doubt
Dec 20 20:50:35 <mdp> impressive for what used to be just a neckbeard gathering ;)
Dec 20 20:51:23 <alan_o> That'd be a great name for an embedded company: Neckbeard.
Dec 20 20:52:04 <alan_o> mdp: you should work that word into your next talk.
Dec 20 20:52:24 <alan_o> Let's come up with a list of words, and assign each a point value
Dec 20 20:55:09 <mdp> alan_o, I do like to work these things in
Dec 20 20:55:50 <mdp> I should have some kind of /dev/b6502-mem in honor of the exynos fiasco too
Dec 20 20:56:36 * mranostay pokes av500 
Dec 20 20:56:44 <mranostay> mdp: hehe
Dec 20 20:56:52 <mdp> alan_o, probably just grab stuff from 26-26-54.hardwarebug.org
Dec 20 20:57:07 * bradfa cries, neckbeard.{com,net,org} are all already registered
Dec 20 20:57:09 <alan_o> mdp: yeah, so what is that thing? Who is it?
Dec 20 20:57:42 <mdp> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/25
Dec 20 20:57:58 <bradfa> mans thing, no?
Dec 20 20:58:16 <mdp> alan_o, what bradfa said
Dec 20 20:58:25 <mdp> all the important things are captured there
Dec 20 20:58:27 <bradfa> I can't do unicode, so sorry for spelling
Dec 20 20:58:36 <mranostay> mdp: what is RMS smoking exactly?
Dec 20 20:58:42 <alan_o> yeah, just did the whois. Mans
Dec 20 20:59:06 <mdp> mranostay, there is speculation on what is carried in his magic satchel other than tea
Dec 20 21:00:22 <mdp> alan_o, so as an example, you look up http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/135 and if discussion of something random is in your talk...you are then obliged to weave this quote in
Dec 20 21:14:39 <jkridner> *sigh* still getting: http://pastebin.com/cx89fsMF
Dec 20 21:15:44 <alan_o> jkridner: I usually have to "make" and then "make uImage"
Dec 20 21:16:06 <alan_o> jkridner: it seems to me like all the dependencies aren't right for uImage
Dec 20 21:16:27 <alan_o> people may flame me for that, but my builds get wedged sometimes, and I just do things manually in obvious order to clear it.
Dec 20 21:16:54 <jkridner> thanks. that's got it building a lot more.
Dec 20 21:17:02 <jkridner> I usually stumble through it by accident...
Dec 20 21:17:11 <jkridner> but, I do it rarely enough that I forget the magic.
Dec 20 21:18:47 <ds2> jkridner: did you start with a clean tree?
Dec 20 21:19:14 <jkridner> maybe
Dec 20 21:19:27 <ds2> it looks like some intermediates got scrambled... I'd try doing a clean and repeating
Dec 20 21:30:29 <prpplague> mdp: wow those RPi hackers are L337! http://hackaday.com/2012/12/20/custom-motd-for-the-raspberry-pi/
Dec 20 21:30:46 <woglinde> yeah motd
Dec 20 21:31:03 <ds2> prpplague: u are not impressed with them like the audrinos? :D
Dec 20 21:31:34 <prpplague> ds2: at least an arduino can be used as a real avr
Dec 20 21:31:56 <ds2> the pi can't be used as a real ARM? ;)
Dec 20 21:32:32 <prpplague> ds2: hehe, not without a binary blob
Dec 20 21:32:55 * mdp submits a /dev/rpi-mem driver to hackaday
Dec 20 21:33:03 <prpplague> at least the spirit of the arduino is in the right place
Dec 20 21:33:08 <mdp> prpplague: I'm almost speechless which is quite rare
Dec 20 21:33:08 <prpplague> hehe
Dec 20 21:33:15 <prpplague> mdp: hehe
Dec 20 21:33:28 <mdp> prpplague: you know I checked for an April 1 date, right?
Dec 20 21:33:33 <ds2> talking about PI's is like talking about airhogs RC planes in a RC forum :)
Dec 20 21:33:53 <mdp> prpplague: this totally deflates my excitement of the 6502 remoteproc hitting hackaday :(
Dec 20 21:34:01 <prpplague> mdp: hehe
Dec 20 21:34:29 <elainebenes> what have you done with your beagles?
Dec 20 21:35:05 <ds2> I have walked them, washed them, transplanted brains,....
Dec 20 21:35:09 <alan_o> the real Elaine Benes?
Dec 20 21:35:34 <ds2> what have you done with your beagle?
Dec 20 21:35:42 <dm8tbr> braaaaains!
Dec 20 21:35:43 <elainebenes> alan_o: the real one isnt to real is she?
Dec 20 21:35:55 <ds2> would go hunting with mine but it is a pain getting the stamps for that
Dec 20 21:35:56 <alan_o> she is so!!!
Dec 20 21:36:30 <alan_o> ds2: beagle hunting stamp?
Dec 20 21:36:33 <djlewis> burried my beagle 3 ft under
Dec 20 21:37:32 <ds2> alan_o: no, migratory birds and berries
Dec 20 21:37:54 <ds2> djlewis: so it will rise again during the frost heaves?
Dec 20 21:38:27 <mranostay> prpplague: love the comments
Dec 20 21:40:09 <mranostay> "I also like how the image has the local IP obfuscated (as someone mentioned in the comments). Watch out, I might try to login to 192.168.1.1 over the internet. :rolleyes:"  my favorite
Dec 20 21:41:01 <prpplague> hehe
Dec 20 21:41:30 <alan_o> I'm happy that newbs are trying stuff out, but that it got through the site editors is a little surprising.
Dec 20 21:43:53 <mranostay> prpplague: er wait the stock kernel for the rpi os 2.6.27?
Dec 20 21:43:58 <mranostay> er nm
Dec 20 21:44:04 <mranostay> i see 3.2.27
Dec 20 21:44:17 <mranostay> cannot see today it seems
Dec 20 21:49:18 <alan_o> mranostay: you thinking about it?
Dec 20 21:49:23 <alan_o> now that you know you can change your motd?
Dec 20 21:49:35 <alan_o> and have exact steps?
Dec 20 21:49:40 <alan_o> It's tempting :)
Dec 20 21:49:41 <mranostay> oh yeah that is some badass rockstar tech
Dec 20 21:49:54 <mranostay> almost as badass as nodejs
Dec 20 21:49:59 <mdp> guys, I just changed my motd too!
Dec 20 21:50:01 <alan_o> I bet they have nodejs ported to it :)
Dec 20 21:50:03 <mdp> this is so awesome!
Dec 20 21:50:07 * mdp bounces.
Dec 20 21:50:33 <mdp> "Welcome to Matt's Linux System!!!"
Dec 20 21:50:48 <alan_o> mdp: my motd file disappeared one day. No idea where it went.
Dec 20 21:50:59 <alan_o> I'm apparently a hell of a sysadmin
Dec 20 21:51:08 <ccssnet> yup ^
Dec 20 21:51:08 <mdp> alan_o, quit asking for exact steps
Dec 20 21:51:40 <alan_o> I used to use it to remember which version of Ubuntu I'm running. Now I just have to think about it really hard.
Dec 20 21:52:06 <mdp> you can tell the version by what essential feature you were using no longer works
Dec 20 21:52:15 <mranostay> alan_o: can get 6 figures from just knowing about /etc/motd !??!
Dec 20 21:52:19 <mdp> i think somebody made an identification cheatsheet for that
Dec 20 21:52:40 <alan_o> yeah probably
Dec 20 21:52:42 <alan_o> mranostay: ??
Dec 20 21:53:15 <alan_o> mranostay: where do I sign up?
Dec 20 21:53:26 <Russ> just wait till they find out about .plan
Dec 20 21:53:39 <mranostay> No Plan.
Dec 20 21:53:44 <Russ> OMG, it's just like TWITTER!
Dec 20 21:53:56 <mdp> "finger me!"
Dec 20 21:54:18 * mranostay backs way from mdp and call's HR
Dec 20 21:54:20 <Russ> now I know what to do for an ELC talk!
Dec 20 21:54:44 <mranostay> bring back fingering!
Dec 20 21:55:06 * prpplague decides to leave the twilight zone
Dec 20 21:55:14 <mdp> tomorrow's rpi hackaday entry, crontab hacking!
Dec 20 21:55:36 <mranostay> prpplague: oh mr prude? :)
Dec 20 21:55:52 <prpplague> hehe
Dec 20 21:56:09 <mdp> mranostay, I'm surprised their motd example doesn't have av500 animated acscii art pr0n
Dec 20 21:56:31 * Russ looks up to see a slightly disturbing video of row after row of airline seats filled with potatoes
Dec 20 21:57:09 <ds2> Russ: is this rise of Mr Potato head?
Dec 20 21:57:32 <Russ> who knows what their plan is
Dec 20 22:03:53 <mranostay> er
Dec 20 22:38:45 <mranostay> welcome joelagnel_
Dec 20 22:38:48 <beaglePPS> Is anybody aware of an implementation of LinuxPPS for the Beagleboard's ARM processor?
Dec 20 23:05:40 <beaglePPS> Has anybody used GPS to synchronize the system clock on their beagleboard?
Dec 20 23:17:00 <joelagnel_> mranostay, hello
Dec 20 23:47:45 <mranostay> Russ!
Dec 20 23:52:31 <sh1v> hey fellas, do any of you know if its possible to disable that @$@#$ing "ethernet gadget" on the beaglebone?
Dec 20 23:53:12 <sh1v> any clues appreciated muchly, im a bit stumped
Dec 20 23:54:06 <Russ> yes?
Dec 20 23:54:34 <sh1v> can you elaborate? :)
Dec 20 23:58:04 <woglinde> remove the modules?
Dec 20 23:58:28 <sh1v> do you know what its called? I didnt see anything that stuck out at me
Dec 20 23:58:50 <sh1v> that was the first thing I tried
Dec 21 00:07:50 <woglinde> search for g_ stuff
Dec 21 00:09:09 <mranostay> *g*
Dec 21 00:09:30 <sh1v> pardon?
Dec 21 00:09:47 <mranostay> sh1v: g_ether
Dec 21 00:09:58 <sh1v> cool, thanks :)
Dec 21 00:10:10 <sh1v> what does the G_ prefix mean?
Dec 21 00:12:56 <wmat> gadget, I'd guess
Dec 21 00:16:39 <mranostay> yeah
Dec 21 01:16:35 <Crofton|work> Damn it, I can't remember how to endorse people for random things. Or linkedin clsoed that hole
Dec 21 01:18:58 <not_a_beagle_eag> happy christmas beaglers
Dec 21 01:19:18 <Crofton|work> thanks
Dec 21 01:19:21 <mranostay> Crofton|work: +1 Randomness
Dec 21 01:19:55 <not_a_beagle_eag> um, its close to christmas...
Dec 21 01:20:29 <not_a_beagle_eag> so, and this is probably a high concentration of beaglers, so not much entropy in the random i'm sorry
Dec 21 01:20:51 <not_a_beagle_eag> i'll try harder later.
Dec 21 01:21:23 <Crofton|work> yeah
Dec 21 01:21:29 <Crofton|work> we are not serious on good days
Dec 21 01:22:09 <not_a_beagle_eag> well, i spent a solid honest effort on learning somethigna bout the beagle this week
Dec 21 01:22:19 <not_a_beagle_eag> and i'm now got it doing something useful!
Dec 21 01:23:13 <not_a_beagle_eag> my terrier actually eats real raspberrys
Dec 21 01:23:37 <not_a_beagle_eag> and my beagle now eats raspberry pi.
Dec 21 01:23:50 <mranostay> Crofton|work: can you pass me a beer....?
Dec 21 01:25:21 <not_a_beagle_eag> oh, fyi.. no end of the world yet
Dec 21 01:25:44 <sh1v> everything's good here in australia :)
Dec 21 01:25:53 <not_a_beagle_eag> i'm two hours ahead of you..
Dec 21 01:25:58 <not_a_beagle_eag> all good in N
Dec 21 01:26:00 <not_a_beagle_eag> in NZ
Dec 21 01:29:39 <wmat> Crofton|work: that whole endorsement thing was fairly useless
Dec 21 01:32:25 <not_a_beagle_eag> what was endorsed
Dec 21 01:32:54 <wmat> it's not so much waht, as by who
Dec 21 01:33:31 <wmat> i could simply endorse every skill a contact has on linkedin, thereby making my endorsements pretty much meaningless
Dec 21 01:33:32 <not_a_beagle_eag> anyway,  has anyone ported a 'beaglebone' into their own hardware platform?  I'm kind of guessing that is the point of what TI was hoping
Dec 21 01:33:57 <not_a_beagle_eag> i just ignore linkedin
Dec 21 01:34:00 <not_a_beagle_eag> its a waste of time
Dec 21 02:20:39 <mranostay> hi emeb_mac's
Dec 21 02:20:54 <mranostay> how is it fpga-world?
Dec 21 02:24:54 <emeb_mac> mranostay: things are fine. static but fine.
Dec 21 02:30:31 <mranostay> emeb_mac: static isn't ESD safe!
Dec 21 02:30:53 <emeb_mac> ark ark.
Dec 21 02:32:20 <not_a_beagle_eag> the animals went two by two, hurrah hurrah.
Dec 21 02:32:43 <not_a_beagle_eag> ( dont' be telling me that was random )
Dec 21 02:52:42 <neq_beagleeagle> so much to learn
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