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Dec 29 03:03:24 <mranostay> you act like it is a crime and everything
Dec 29 06:55:30 <Cykon> So, I finally got my serial cable for my beagleboar classic so I can figure out why it isn't starting correctly.... and something tells me this isn't what I should be seeing when powering it up without an SD card
Dec 29 06:55:35 <Cykon> ts er oa  MiBnvironment 004032391000800e Hit any key to stop autoboot:10  and ...  rong Imman: ca't get rnel image! Oeagleb #
Dec 29 07:08:33 <Russ> Cykon, flow control off?
Dec 29 07:08:45 <Russ> and can you verify that nothing else has the serial port open?
Dec 29 07:09:24 <Cykon> Yep, gimme a sec
Dec 29 07:10:46 <Cykon> hmm?
Dec 29 07:11:08 <Russ> u-boot is running ok, but you are missing characters
Dec 29 07:11:22 <Russ> you either have the serial port misconfigured, or some other user of the port is stealing characters
Dec 29 07:12:33 <Cykon> Well, I just did 'sudo screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200' with a -fn in there
Dec 29 07:12:33 <Cykon> so flow control is off
Dec 29 07:12:46 <Russ> sudo fuser /dev/ttyUSB0
Dec 29 07:13:09 <Cykon> I doubt anything else is using the serial port but let me see if I can figure out how to check it
Dec 29 07:13:23 <Russ> ...fuser
Dec 29 07:13:26 <Cykon> kk
Dec 29 07:16:39 <Cykon> sorry, bastard internet connection =/
Dec 29 07:16:39 <Cykon> ./dev/ttyUSB0:         4334  4700  4772  4861  4939  5042  5134  5356
Dec 29 07:16:39 <Cykon> that's the output
Dec 29 07:17:15 <Cykon> im guessing there's quite a bit using the serial port...
Dec 29 07:17:54 <Russ> stealing your bits
Dec 29 07:18:05 <Cykon> should I do fuser -k on it?
Dec 29 07:18:16 <Russ> good chance they'll start back up again
Dec 29 07:18:17 <Russ> you can try
Dec 29 07:32:02 <Cykon> this internet connection is going to drive me crazy @_@
Dec 29 07:32:49 <Cykon> Anyways, foss, should I keep playing around with this serial connection? It's the usb one from specialcomp... so I guess it should work... hopefully it's not the beagleboard that's broken
Dec 29 07:35:16 <Russ> its not the problem with the usb dongle
Dec 29 07:35:26 <Russ> see what processes are opening it and tell them to stop doing that
Dec 29 07:35:34 <Russ> and the beagleboard seems fine
Dec 29 07:35:41 <Cykon> Those processes were opening every time I did sudo screen ...
Dec 29 07:35:56 <Russ> what are the processes associated with those pid numbers?
Dec 29 07:52:09 <cykon> oookidoki
Dec 29 07:53:11 <cykon> Did a computer restart, nothing was using the port... did the screen command get "0�h��9�"o@�!v�b�!3.P!B#J!�����@����pP�������u)������#�" as console output... and only one thing is using the port right now which I assume is the console using screen
Dec 29 07:53:17 <cykon> any other suggestions? -/
Dec 29 07:55:05 <cykon> =/
Dec 29 07:58:47 <Russ> well now it looks like it's at the wrong baud
Dec 29 07:59:20 <Russ> stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0
Dec 29 07:59:51 <cykon> oh crap, I totally forgot the baud number
Dec 29 07:59:55 <cykon> oops
Dec 29 08:01:19 <cykon> sweet jesus it works
Dec 29 08:01:27 <Russ> hooray
Dec 29 08:01:31 <cykon> <3 thanks for your help
Dec 29 08:01:34 <Russ> maybe before you had a bunch of screen sessions running?
Dec 29 08:02:23 <cykon> Yeah perhaps... I figured you'd be able to close the window and it would exit the process... is there a safe way to disconnect the session?
Dec 29 08:02:54 <Russ> I don't really use screen, but one of the major features, is if you close your connection, the session is still running
Dec 29 08:03:09 <cykon> ohhhh
Dec 29 08:03:40 <cykon> yeah, that'd do it
Dec 29 08:03:45 <Russ> irvine, geez, I was at scp just today
Dec 29 08:07:45 <cykon> woo, now I get to figure out why it wasn't booting from my SD card... anyways, thanks again Russ :)
Dec 29 08:07:53 <Russ> np
Dec 29 09:37:31 <cykon> okok, so -- I'm booting this image for the first time, and my serial output is stuck on "booting the kernel" -- I hear this can take quite some time, should I be seeing any more serial output during this? or will it just stay on "booting the kernel"
Dec 29 09:40:22 <Russ> it should come back right away
Dec 29 09:40:28 <Russ> there was a change a while ago in console naming
Dec 29 09:40:41 <Russ> the parameters you are passing for console= are probably no longer correct
Dec 29 09:44:46 <cykon> kk i
Dec 29 09:44:51 <cykon> i'll look into it thanks
Dec 29 09:45:33 <cykon> My monitor also seems to be tripping out, the board seems to be waking it from power save and putting it back into power save rapidly
Dec 29 09:45:42 <cykon> but i'll figure that out later
Dec 29 09:56:20 <cykon> hmm, ok so I used Narcissus to build an image for my board, and during the bootup process it requests uEnv.txt, is this alright even if I have a beagleboard classic? My googling seems to lead me to believe that this is an XM thing
Dec 29 10:01:46 <mranostay> morning all
Dec 29 10:02:31 <cykon> morning
Dec 29 10:05:57 <mranostay> prpplague: seems that helicopter patrol is the cupertino dui checkpoint..
Dec 29 10:07:07 <mranostay> must be for the people that try to evade it :)
Dec 29 10:10:31 <cykon> hmm, on second thought uEnv.txt isn't even found... maybe that's the cause of my troubles @_@
Dec 29 10:14:41 <mranostay> default should work
Dec 29 10:15:35 <cykon> hmm?
Dec 29 10:32:59 <Freak2222> Hey@all...  can someone tell me if there is a XBMC distribution for the beagleboard? Like Raspbmc for the raspberry pi? And is it usable as a real mediacenter?
Dec 29 12:48:18 <KidBeta> hey guys. Does anyone know of any way to interface firwire using say a beaglebone, be through a controller or a cap or anything really, doesnt even need to be fast.
Dec 29 18:26:41 <Fointard> Hello, can anyone help me to set up a TFTP link with my beaglebone ?
Dec 29 21:27:13 <mph__> has anyone ported any linux distribution onto the TI ICE development board...
Dec 29 21:27:40 <mph__> i'm interestd in investigating ethercat
Dec 29 21:32:03 <Crofton|work> url for the baord?
Dec 29 22:05:06 <cykon> I'm trying to follow the beagleboard beginner's guide to get my board up and running, and under the writing angstrom to the sd card section it requires u-boot.bin and mentions I can download it from the repo  http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
Dec 29 22:05:12 <cykon> But... there's no u-boot.bin @_@
Dec 29 22:05:22 <cykon> Am I meant to build it myself?
Dec 29 22:07:19 <thurbad> uboot is somewhat board specific
Dec 29 22:07:44 <thurbad> you can add support for your board
Dec 29 22:08:25 <thurbad> which board?
Dec 29 22:08:31 <cykon> Bleh, I figured, I got a serial cable and tried to use a build from Narcissus but it was freezing on booting the kernel
Dec 29 22:09:07 <thurbad> oh, u-boot.img is the same thing it a different name
Dec 29 22:09:25 <cykon> oh... well then...
Dec 29 22:09:47 <cykon> Will I be able to rename it? or -- will it just work as the .img
Dec 29 22:33:51 <thurbad> cykon: just rename it as u-boot.bin
Dec 29 23:28:48 <cykon> http://pastebin.com/87nuBALB
Dec 29 23:29:41 <thurbad> where did you put uImage>
Dec 29 23:30:19 <cykon> on the boot partition of my sd card
Dec 29 23:31:38 <thurbad> newer u-boot expects it in the boot folder of your rootfs partition
Dec 29 23:31:47 <cykon> Oh?
Dec 29 23:31:53 <cykon> Well then lets try that
Dec 29 23:33:19 <cykon> hmm, there's already one in there, but it's sym-linked to another file, would that cause problems?
Dec 29 23:33:34 <thurbad> depends on what it's symlinked to
Dec 29 23:33:41 <cykon> I mean it's symlinked to a uimage file
Dec 29 23:33:47 <cykon> it's just named with the version number at the end
Dec 29 23:33:55 <thurbad> what version?
Dec 29 23:34:01 <cykon> 2.6.32
Dec 29 23:34:47 <thurbad> kinda old, but /should /work
Dec 29 23:35:07 <cykon> =[ I think I have a newer copy somewhere
Dec 29 23:35:24 <thurbad> can you pastebin you uboot environment
Dec 29 23:35:40 <cykon> yeah sure
Dec 29 23:35:57 <thurbad> hit a key on the serial console before the timeout then use printenv
Dec 29 23:36:07 <cykon> yep yep
Dec 29 23:36:52 <thurbad> could be there are a couple of commads that are deprecated in your uboot environment
Dec 29 23:37:51 <cykon> http://pastebin.com/rQtebuVC
Dec 29 23:40:26 <thurbad> hmm, it's a little inconsistent with the kernel load address sometimes usues loadaddr at 802000000 sometimes it uses 803000000 directly
Dec 29 23:41:28 <cykon> so should I change bootcmd to use 80200000?
Dec 29 23:41:37 <cykon> since that's what loadaddr is
Dec 29 23:42:42 <thurbad> I'd replace the 803000000 instandes with ${loadaddr} it's a bit more robust than hoping you typed the number correctly every time
Dec 29 23:43:02 <cykon> sounds good
Dec 29 23:43:53 <thurbad> also while you're in the uboot console, check help
Dec 29 23:44:12 <thurbad> I can't remember if mmcinit replaces mmc init or the other way around
Dec 29 23:44:19 <cykon> i think it is mmc init
Dec 29 23:44:36 <cykon> I was reading that it was mmcinit, but on the newer versions it has the space
Dec 29 23:44:39 <thurbad> it has been each at various times
Dec 29 23:44:47 <cykon> oooh, ok then lemme check
Dec 29 23:44:59 <cykon> mmcinit it is
Dec 29 23:46:30 <cykon> ok saved the envs, lets see how this works
Dec 29 23:46:39 <cykon> I also changed it to mmcinit, since... well... that's what it is xD
Dec 29 23:48:16 <cykon> damn, same thing =/
Dec 29 23:48:30 <thurbad> exactly the same?
Dec 29 23:48:32 <cykon> checked the environment variables and they are the changed ones
Dec 29 23:48:34 <cykon> yeah
Dec 29 23:49:20 <cykon> Wait, I lied when I said it was mmcinit, it is indeed mmc init
Dec 29 23:49:33 <cykon> My reading skills are... lacking
Dec 29 23:49:35 <cykon> I read mmcinfo
Dec 29 23:50:30 <thurbad> heh
Dec 29 23:50:48 <cykon> blergh, same thing still
Dec 29 23:51:13 <thurbad> have you tried with the user button pressed?
Dec 29 23:51:29 <cykon> Negative
Dec 29 23:52:43 <cykon> oh -- now it expects u-boot.img to be there
Dec 29 23:52:45 <cykon> how interesting
Dec 29 23:52:46 <cykon> lets see
Dec 29 23:54:20 <thurbad> names have changed from time to time ~.~
Dec 29 23:55:03 <cykon> ~.~ I just wish the wiki was up to date with this stuff!
Dec 29 23:55:09 <cykon> That or i'm just doing it wrong
Dec 29 23:55:51 <thurbad> nah, the wiki is probably out of date
Dec 29 23:56:17 <cykon> Yeah =[
Dec 29 23:56:32 <cykon> I can't seem to find any starter guides that aren't out of date
Dec 29 23:57:25 <cykon> What does holding down the user button when booting accomplish anyway
Dec 29 23:59:49 <thurbad> forces to read from the sd card
Dec 30 00:00:24 <cykon> ahh
Dec 30 00:02:27 <cykon> is there a way to restore my environment variables to the default that came with the board?
Dec 30 00:09:19 <mph__> im a happy camper now..
Dec 30 00:14:33 <emeb_mac> hello to all the badass rockstar coders.
Dec 30 00:27:08 <mph_> lol.
Dec 30 00:34:24 <mph_> cykon, what are you trying to do?
Dec 30 01:31:17 <mranostay> morning
Dec 30 01:31:53 <mph_> morning
Dec 30 01:32:16 <mph_> afternoon here, but thats ok
Dec 30 01:34:44 <mranostay> mph_: UGT
Dec 30 01:36:23 <KidBeta> does anyone know the power range that the beaglebone can tolerate over the DC pin
Dec 30 01:53:45 <mranostay> Crofton|work: not german card?
Dec 30 02:03:38 <mph_> no,  but you could probably have a look on the schematics
Dec 30 02:03:51 <KidBeta> just found it then ^_^
Dec 30 02:29:30 <mph_> i'd say its not a wide range.
Dec 30 02:30:00 <mph_> if you need a wider range, then you might want to contemplate a psu external that deals to you variation
Dec 30 02:35:07 <KidBeta> yeah
Dec 30 02:35:17 <KidBeta> ill just find a  5v 1/2A wall wart its okay
Dec 30 02:37:08 <mph_> i've got a 2A one
Dec 30 02:37:13 <mph_> mainly becuase its what i had
Dec 30 02:37:41 <mph_> .5A does'nt give you much power for the USB
Dec 30 02:37:46 <mph_> if you have anything plugged in
Dec 30 02:41:09 <KidBeta> yeah im confident ive got one somewhere
Dec 30 02:45:39 <mph_> i was pretty pleased to get a familar and useful system running on my beagles..
Dec 30 02:45:48 <mph_> turned them into something quite useful.
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