**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 31 02:59:59 2012 Dec 31 03:04:32 old people and your sleep schedules : Dec 31 03:04:34 :) Dec 31 03:11:50 mranostay: wmat: that youtube looked like pretty close to where I live, somewhere in Quebec, yup still snow removing ;) Dec 31 03:16:47 Ip over ethernet over ethercat Dec 31 03:16:55 gotta love encapsulation Dec 31 03:28:41 mnt_real: montreal so yeah Dec 31 07:33:46 deadly quiet! Dec 31 07:46:05 HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dec 31 07:46:11 mph__: better? Dec 31 07:48:41 p00f Dec 31 07:56:45 * mranostay drags ka6sox-away back in Dec 31 08:05:55 * ka6sox-away kicking and screaming!!! Dec 31 08:06:35 oh.. behave Dec 31 08:07:08 I don't wanna Dec 31 08:07:25 lol.. Dec 31 08:08:32 its NYEE Dec 31 08:09:05 NYE here Dec 31 08:09:16 sleep is for wimps Dec 31 08:09:27 what's sleep? Dec 31 08:50:47 Crofton|work: you are weirdo that does foursquare still right? Dec 31 08:56:12 robclark`: have a look at the 3.8 based tree: https://github.com/koenkooi/linux/commits/3.8-for-panto-rebase Dec 31 08:56:30 robclark`: that's missing the lcdc clock data, but it does boot :) Dec 31 08:57:32 koen: can i nag panto about this? Dec 31 08:57:50 * mranostay gives koen his old dude badge Dec 31 09:08:40 mranostay: you can try Dec 31 09:15:42 koen: 30 is one foot in the coffin :P Dec 31 09:18:35 mranostay, what does that make 50? Dec 31 09:21:00 2 feet and one arm? Dec 31 09:21:52 * ka6sox-away hasn't played twister in a LONG time... Dec 31 09:23:41 you aren't the people i want to play that with that Dec 31 09:23:47 lol. Dec 31 09:24:11 not now not ever :) Dec 31 09:27:07 ever ever ever Dec 31 09:28:02 saw a guy on a bike, in red Dec 31 09:28:09 maybe it was your friend Dec 31 09:28:38 mranostay, you owe me a sweatshirt.... Dec 31 09:28:59 er i do? Dec 31 09:29:14 yes...you do Dec 31 09:30:31 mph_: today or yesterday? he left wellington yesterday iirc Dec 31 09:30:40 the timezones are screwing me up :) Dec 31 09:30:50 i saw lots of people on bikes Dec 31 09:30:51 :-) Dec 31 09:31:01 they come past here all the time. Dec 31 09:31:31 i need to make the new zealand tour one these days Dec 31 09:31:37 you do. Dec 31 09:31:47 not biking i've heard NZ girls are awesome :) Dec 31 09:31:48 i keep telling people, its not that bad Dec 31 09:31:58 some of them Dec 31 09:32:17 i drink every place i visit on vacation Dec 31 09:32:30 well more than usual Dec 31 09:32:34 go to SFO, fly for 12hours 10 minutes, get of plane, thats it Dec 31 09:32:35 easy Dec 31 09:32:44 only 12 hours? Dec 31 09:32:55 i find that unlikely Dec 31 09:33:51 yup, its only 12 hours from SFO to AKL Dec 31 09:33:54 sometimes less Dec 31 09:34:20 mph_, 20yrs ago I honeymooned on South Island. Dec 31 09:34:51 mranostry, you are right. its 12hours 15 minuts Dec 31 09:34:56 ka6sox-away: old dude :) Dec 31 09:35:19 i was starting the first grade :) Dec 31 09:35:55 mph_: so the same as my europe trips Dec 31 09:37:19 mph_: i'll even toss in some ethercat consulting for free i can couchsurf :P Dec 31 09:37:42 we have plenty of space for visitors Dec 31 09:38:31 3million people, 30million sheep. Dec 31 09:38:32 we have a cottage Dec 31 09:38:45 about 2 minutes walk from home Dec 31 09:41:46 the Kiwi's are crazy...they built a 165' ship and then took it apart, put it on trains and trucks and moved it to a lake. Dec 31 09:42:29 its 100yrs old and they still use it! Dec 31 09:42:38 https://maps.google.com/maps?q=-41.105821,174.91713&layer=c&sll=-41.105809,174.917244&cbp=13,83.91,,0,0.07&cbll=-41.105846,174.916821&ie=UTF8&ll=-41.106309,174.917772&spn=0.006241,0.013937&t=m&z=17&vpsrc=0&iwloc=A&panoid=vNsEDPqw-EV6VexKCqwZlw Dec 31 09:42:47 and that is me in the drive way Dec 31 09:43:36 how did i know that google maps car was in the neighborhood. Dec 31 09:43:50 you followed it home? Dec 31 09:49:15 was just one of those weird thigns Dec 31 09:49:19 i had no idea Dec 31 09:49:23 untill someone pointed it out to me Dec 31 09:54:39 And you decided to follow it Dec 31 09:55:05 I happened to see the Google maps ..bicycle in our city center a few months back Dec 31 09:58:00 mranostay, I have your party hat: https://plus.google.com/photos/102551934997523314432/albums/5826502736704239681/5826502742986452066?authkey=CLWlyMi1r5SgLg Dec 31 09:58:04 Looks like their material is not in the Maps service yet Dec 31 13:14:40 mranostay, yes I use 4sq Dec 31 15:56:38 why is pinctrl so much more of a pain in the ass than omap_mux was? :( Dec 31 15:57:13 works on other peoples hw? Dec 31 15:58:25 not feeling very worth it today. Dec 31 15:59:58 how do I read the state? Dec 31 16:00:27 jkridner_, because it's immature? Dec 31 16:01:03 forgive me…. just venting because I'm not able to figure out the best way to do things with it. Dec 31 16:01:28 I'm trying to get an LCD working... Dec 31 16:01:32 and I don't have a scope... Dec 31 16:01:43 and I'm not sure what the pins are currently doing... Dec 31 16:02:04 jkridner_, cat /sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux/pins Dec 31 16:02:05 I'm not sure where it is currently breaking. Dec 31 16:05:15 jkridner_, you'll also need https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1716751/ in your kernel, most likely, due to my original patch containing an ugly bug. :) Dec 31 16:08:34 k, I don't see that patch in my commit history... Dec 31 16:08:51 http://pastebin.com/bvbzD4hC looks useful, but I'm still trying to decode pins. Dec 31 16:09:30 I've got the offsets in https://github.com/jadonk/bonescript/blob/master/node_modules/bonescript/bone.js Dec 31 16:12:35 jkridner_: it wasn't considered a fix so it didn't go in Dec 31 16:12:55 and due to the great purge a lot of things are being dropped and forgotten Dec 31 16:13:01 odd. how could it not be a fix if it is flat out broken without it? Dec 31 16:13:12 jkridner: use devmem2 to read the state of the pinmux registers Dec 31 16:13:25 alan_o: that isn't a forward-looking approach. Dec 31 16:13:32 it's "debug stuff" and therefore doesn't not meet the requirements to be a kernel fix Dec 31 16:13:46 apply the patch and it works Dec 31 16:13:54 I could start going crazy with putting a ton of devmem2-style access all over my code... Dec 31 16:13:58 jkridner: no, it's not but you wanted to know how to see what the pins were doing. That's how you do it today Dec 31 16:14:07 but, we are supposed to be trying to get things fixed in the kernel. Dec 31 16:14:24 jkridner: no doubt. but that's a different question :) Dec 31 16:14:24 true. guess I'm trying to solve multiple problems at once. Dec 31 16:14:27 koen already has some userspace support using this to parse whatever as the human-readable parsing belongs in userspace anyway Dec 31 16:15:11 adding write support will be the next task for somebody Dec 31 16:15:13 any idea where koen's code for that is so I don't repeat it? Dec 31 16:15:18 no Dec 31 16:16:04 he was doing it back when I first posted the patch for this...tbh...he and I were lamenting the lack of a userspace interface which is why I even implemented this Dec 31 16:16:25 hopefully somebody contributes write support before I get around to it ;) Dec 31 16:16:26 oh, and jkridner_, don't try to set pinmux regs with devmem2. It will look like it worked, but pinctl will change them back. Not sure when or how, but that's what I observed. Dec 31 16:16:52 alan_o, it's not pinctl...access to those registered is a privileged operation Dec 31 16:17:00 you can't do it via mmap Dec 31 16:17:08 s/registered/registers Dec 31 16:17:22 a technical reason you want this done in kernel space ;) Dec 31 16:17:28 mdp: it is? hmmm... That makes some amount of sense, but devmem2 does a read after it writes, and it shows up correct. Dec 31 16:17:39 unless there's a bug in devmen2 Dec 31 16:17:47 alan_o, the results are "boundedly undefined" :) Dec 31 16:18:01 ah, well ok then :) Dec 31 16:18:14 I wasted much time with that a few months ago Dec 31 16:19:00 btw, there's been talk of adding pinctrl parsing to "omapconf"...but as usual, just talk Dec 31 16:19:43 it's probably the right tool to unite around since it already dumps everything else in human-readable form on real omaps Dec 31 16:20:49 if I do it, it'll be there as I need to support omap5 now too Dec 31 16:25:07 jkridner_, it's possible koen was messing around with bonescript stuff of some sort when he needed that to work..so you might look there Dec 31 16:25:26 I didn't see a branch on his tree with anything. Dec 31 17:04:19 happy new yr folks Dec 31 17:04:57 you're 12 hours early for a Jets fan :) Dec 31 17:05:20 new yr means good riddance to the old jets Dec 31 17:05:27 something new to look forward to Dec 31 17:13:21 heh Dec 31 17:13:44 browns fans have new hope each year too..then it ends after the first two games Dec 31 17:20:53 time to go now Dec 31 17:20:55 happy ny! Dec 31 17:42:14 my beaglebone's serial console doesn't seem to be coming up correctly over usb on both ubuntu and mountain lion. I think jtag might be showing up but not serial. any suggestions? Dec 31 18:02:40 travalas, use the other interface Dec 31 18:09:24 Russ: don't try to confuse me with your facts! :P Dec 31 18:10:27 travalas: what does your dmesg log show for interfaces coming up? Dec 31 18:10:34 true, trolling is a far, far better thing to do Dec 31 18:10:44 (under ubuntu, obviously) Dec 31 18:11:21 it is odd for only one of the interfaces to show up as far as I'm aware. Dec 31 18:13:17 jkridner___: the ___ scare me in your nick :) Dec 31 18:13:33 unless we are playing hangman Dec 31 18:14:34 mranostay: wouldn't want you running away scared. Dec 31 18:15:56 now with a 1 Dec 31 18:18:53 is there any expansion board with a dvb-s interface available? Dec 31 18:19:22 jkridner, can you fix the beaglebone page with the incorrect link to the current Cloud9 image? Dec 31 18:19:42 do you mean the mirrors? Dec 31 18:19:45 yes Dec 31 18:20:18 The mirror has the correct image, the link on the beaglebone page is wrong. Dec 31 18:21:09 what page is that? Dec 31 18:21:32 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/ ? Dec 31 18:21:57 that one Dec 31 18:22:35 correct link: http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.11.22.img.xz Dec 31 18:23:12 what I can do is ask koen to provide a symlink to the correct image so it is always right. Dec 31 18:23:37 the latest-image one is one I'd like to manually update for now. Dec 31 18:24:03 i updated it now Dec 31 18:24:07 thanks Dec 31 18:24:34 guess something was fixed on the primary host? Dec 31 18:24:34 don't like people thinking my mirror is bad :( Dec 31 18:24:45 my mirroring script had been broken, but seems to be working again. Dec 31 18:24:52 ah, good Dec 31 18:24:56 maybe I was mirroring your mirror? Dec 31 18:25:11 not sure, I dont' know who is Master Dec 31 18:25:18 dns points to me Dec 31 18:26:11 happy to serve them up for folks... Dec 31 18:26:16 I'm not pulling from downloads.angstrom-distribution.org but instead from linuxtogo.org Dec 31 18:27:41 ah, the link was to me so thats why I was confused. Dec 31 18:27:50 unless its round robin Dec 31 18:28:17 you are running downloads then? Dec 31 18:28:39 yes Dec 31 18:28:40 it was linking to downloads on the latest-images page, but I'm now pointing to my s3 mirror. Dec 31 18:29:11 my s3 mirror had been broken because linuxtogo wasn't reflecting updates to downloads… but now it is. Dec 31 18:29:20 kk Dec 31 18:29:24 it seems koen was pushing to you only for a while. Dec 31 18:29:38 we have that available for anyone to use. Dec 31 18:29:40 thanks for the ping! Dec 31 18:29:44 yw Dec 31 18:31:58 does SYS_5V have some current limit? Dec 31 18:34:40 limit before what? Dec 31 18:34:48 mdp: should I apply http://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg205682.html that uses pin #'s or yours that uses offsets? Dec 31 18:34:52 voltage droop? Cut off? Dec 31 18:37:17 Russ: yeah droop Dec 31 18:38:38 it would be pretty darn hard for it not to Dec 31 18:40:04 lets see..tps datasheet Dec 31 18:41:08 it looks like it will depend on the internal power mosfet Dec 31 18:42:02 datasheet gives 3000mA as 'Terminal current' for 'SYS, USB, BAT' Dec 31 18:43:14 is 15 watts seriously not enough? Dec 31 18:43:57 heh ok yeah that shouldn't be the issue then Dec 31 18:50:43 Russ, its not enough Dec 31 18:51:19 never enough Dec 31 18:54:20 what if I want to stack 2 FGPA boards to handle 6-axis? Dec 31 18:54:55 plug power into the fpga board instead Dec 31 19:03:10 ya, thats the plan Dec 31 19:09:55 awesome Dec 31 19:09:59 now with a 1 Dec 31 19:10:02 er Dec 31 19:48:19 ka6sox: how much power is the FPGA using? Dec 31 19:48:43 jigga whats! Dec 31 19:49:05 I think it's pronounced jigga hurts Dec 31 19:49:17 mranostay, probably not too much in reality...but it has 2 regulators on it.... Dec 31 19:49:44 I/O and Internal to the FPGA Dec 31 19:49:52 3v3 and 1v2 Dec 31 20:00:48 ka6sox: isn't the bone's 3.3v rail regulated? Dec 31 20:00:57 why you need one for the cape as well? Dec 31 20:03:09 probably because he needs more power than it will give Dec 31 20:03:27 right - we don't want to pull too much from the Bone supply. Dec 31 20:04:22 and FPGA I/O has the potential to be pretty power hungry. especially if you're using LVDS at high rates. Dec 31 20:05:20 I've done some preliminary power measurements on the FPGA board though and with a reasonable sized bitstream running at 50MHz it doesn't pull too much current. Dec 31 20:05:41 but it's really application sensitive, so YMMV. Dec 31 20:06:02 but movin 20 pins @ 50mhz LVDS might get "interesting" Dec 31 20:11:43 ahhh... do you guys never sleep Dec 31 20:12:16 mph_, sleep is for wimps Dec 31 20:13:05 emeb: what kind of FPGA? Dec 31 20:15:51 mph_: Xilinx Spartan 3A. Dec 31 20:16:09 not the most advanced, but work-horse, cheap and compatible with the free tools. Dec 31 20:16:18 interesting,, i've just orderd a dev/eval kit for one of those Dec 31 20:16:27 which one? Dec 31 20:16:50 its for the spartan Dec 31 20:18:01 http://www.elektor.com/products/kits-modules/modules/120099-91-taming-the-beast.2316953.lynkx Dec 31 20:19:51 i think for me, im still struggling to understand where i should be using a uP and where i should be using an FPGA Dec 31 20:21:17 mph_: I think some of it has to do with how hard your realtime requirements are, and whether you need special features from peripherals, or special sets of peripherals. Dec 31 20:24:32 mph_: looks like a cute little board. Dec 31 20:25:44 yeah, that actually looks way fun Dec 31 20:26:07 fumb Dec 31 20:27:29 im certainly looking at ways of reducing all the glue logic that i often end up using Dec 31 20:27:37 ugh, every time I give a company my email address, it's just a bombardment of email. 2 today from Papa John's. So irritating. I _know_ I can go turn it off in the preferences, but I shouldn't have to. Why can't companies figure out that an email every now and then with a real offer is ok, but nobody wants non-stop reminders about pizza......... Dec 31 20:28:22 macys are just as bad.. would you like your receopt by email, deos not mean i want 100 emails a year about specials Dec 31 20:28:29 i odn't even live in teh USA! Dec 31 20:28:56 gah! bird -> window (right in front of my face) Dec 31 20:29:18 yeah, most area really bad. there are a couple that are good. Smoothie King sends about one email a month with an actual valuable coupon in it. Dec 31 20:29:48 bogo, or sometimes just a free smoothie. Dec 31 20:30:08 and for that, they deserve to come to my inbox. Dec 31 20:30:20 alan_o: you are simple to please :-) Dec 31 20:30:37 hey, send me free food, and I'll turn the mranostay filter off too :) Dec 31 20:31:23 but yes, I'm pretty easy to please. Dec 31 20:33:54 So there's this ant hill outside my window.... got bigger since yesterday. Wondering what I should do about it. I mean something fun..... Dec 31 20:34:23 one time I heard a story about taking a scoop from one ant hill and putting it in another (and vise versa) Dec 31 20:34:28 ant fight.... Dec 31 20:34:36 I suppose I need two mounds for that Dec 31 20:34:55 think ant fighting would catch on? Each person brings their own colony... last queen standing wins? Dec 31 20:35:26 would PETA get bent out of shape about that? Dec 31 20:36:28 * mranostay backs away from alan_o Dec 31 20:36:40 I don't have any ants on me right now..... Dec 31 20:37:29 * mranostay mails alan_o some fire ants Dec 31 20:38:22 hopefully not UPS... I had a customer put some boards in 2-day UPS on the 24th from CA. Still not here. Estimated deliver time just moved to the 2nd. Dec 31 20:41:04 * mranostay calls for cab fare estimate Dec 31 20:41:37 i had to live in a boring city in the valley.. :) Dec 31 20:48:15 mranostay: you could move back to Winnipeg Dec 31 20:50:41 fun commute Dec 31 20:50:50 where? Dec 31 20:51:00 boring? Dec 31 20:51:28 I'm heading to the Disco tonight...er wait...those aren't around anymore... Dec 31 20:51:37 speakeasy Dec 31 20:51:42 you're headed to the speakeasy Dec 31 20:55:04 rrright Dec 31 20:55:47 honky tonk? Dec 31 21:01:33 juke joint? Dec 31 21:02:22 ah yeah Dec 31 21:03:06 reminds of a KMFDM song Dec 31 21:05:54 it's time (EST) for a beer, me thinks Dec 31 21:07:11 always time for beer Dec 31 21:08:14 mranostay: can the geiger cape be taken mobile if the beagle is sufficiently powered? Dec 31 21:08:32 I assume that's kind of the point Dec 31 21:09:00 yeah Dec 31 21:09:09 point? i need a point ? :) Dec 31 21:09:32 well no, but it doesn't hurt Dec 31 21:10:17 stationary geiger cape.... that'd be like a gps that requires mains power. Dec 31 21:10:22 i grew up in Elliot lake (the former Uranium mining capital of the world) and I'd love to take some readings of tailings lakes the next time I visit Dec 31 21:11:57 alan_o: not excatly Dec 31 21:12:08 no, not _exactly_ but close :) Dec 31 21:13:00 barring some kind of Fukushima incident and people freaking out in CA about "radiation" blowing across the ocean. Dec 31 21:14:42 staonary gieger woud'nt not be all bad Dec 31 21:14:46 nor stationary GPS Dec 31 21:14:54 I'm listening...... Dec 31 21:15:05 (more for the latter) Dec 31 21:15:29 i have a stanionary GPS on my roof Dec 31 21:15:36 its a time source Dec 31 21:15:37 stationary geiger isn't all bad. It was a poorly executed trolling of mranostay :( Dec 31 21:15:55 oh yeah, that's not bad. Dec 31 21:16:02 its a good time source Dec 31 21:16:05 :- Dec 31 21:16:07 :-) Dec 31 21:16:09 I like how we all pretty much know what time it is now Dec 31 21:16:21 I remember back in the 80s (and 90s) tuning in WWV on dad's shortwave radio. Dec 31 21:21:35 back when only the nerds could know _truly_ what time it was Dec 31 21:21:50 i know its time i got off my lazy bum and did some work Dec 31 21:21:51 .... Dec 31 21:22:30 old people :) Dec 31 21:22:50 heh, mranostay was issued a cell phone shortly after birth :) Dec 31 21:23:32 I was talking with some teenagers, and they said they did not remember a time when everyone didn't have a cell phone. Made me feel old. Dec 31 21:24:19 I determined they were about 4 the year everyone got one. I consider that year to be 99, at least here. Dec 31 21:26:06 my first cellphone was a brand new DynaTAC 6000 Dec 31 21:28:02 alan_o: you are old :) Dec 31 21:28:27 hey man, in 5 years, you will be as old as me :-D Dec 31 21:28:32 but none of us are as old as av500 :) Dec 31 21:28:53 alan_o: i still can't get people in the 90's can now drink :) Dec 31 21:31:28 dynaTAC 8000x (when the memory goes...forget it) Dec 31 21:31:51 I held out till 2007. I was one of the last. Dec 31 21:32:51 now they give cell plans away in the us with 250 minutes a month, as part of the universal lifeline program Dec 31 21:33:25 yeah, because it's "dangerous" for people to not have a cell phone Dec 31 21:33:28 what a crock Dec 31 21:33:52 and yet another government handout program. Dec 31 21:33:58 the land line with limited long distace I can see Dec 31 21:34:21 land line with _no_ service will still dial 911, and costs $0.00 Dec 31 21:34:40 and a cell phone with no service will still dial 911 Dec 31 21:35:03 I used to keep an old 90's brick cell phone in my trunk for emergencies. Dec 31 21:35:39 back before I had a phone. And it didn't cost anyone anything (except the $1.00 that my dad paid at the flea market for it). Dec 31 21:36:17 90's cells were analog, do they even work on the gsm or newer networks Dec 31 21:37:13 gsm came in mid 90s or so? Dec 31 21:38:05 I'm not sure _that_ particular phone will still work. My friend had one of those nokia candybar phones that everyone had, and he eventually got a letter from at&t saying that they were turning off whatever it used, so he had to upgrade Dec 31 21:38:07 that was in 2010 Dec 31 21:38:09 ya, analog phones won't work Dec 31 21:38:15 the old AMPS systems were turned off. Dec 31 21:38:28 just as the 2G/3G ones will be turned off one day too. Dec 31 21:38:39 I do keep a gsm phone too for emergencies Dec 31 21:38:42 nono Dec 31 21:38:44 regardless, an old gsm phone will work for the same Dec 31 21:39:11 first gsm call 1991 :) Dec 31 21:39:21 motorola c123 Dec 31 21:40:02 ShadowJK: yeah, but we didn't have gsm service till much later in the US Dec 31 21:40:11 or at least most people didn't Dec 31 23:09:28 alan_o: you'll be even older in 5 years though :) Dec 31 23:10:42 av500: nice pic Dec 31 23:13:54 why is youtube giving me spainish language ads now? Dec 31 23:47:10 mranostay: hola! que paso pendejo? Dec 31 23:48:55 mis amigos! Dec 31 23:49:32 hehe Dec 31 23:51:54 Russ: in honor of the new year i made a colorful beer coaster from one of these pins, my beer has never looked so disco - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUyDKndMlT4 Dec 31 23:52:46 whoa, you gotta put those on a fan or something Dec 31 23:53:06 oh good idea Dec 31 23:53:10 * prpplague gets the duck tape out Dec 31 23:53:17 or at least something that rotates Dec 31 23:56:33 Russ: hehe doesn't look too bad Dec 31 23:58:58 rave at prpplague's? Jan 01 00:01:50 mranostay: indeed Jan 01 00:02:40 mranostay: http://youtu.be/hzExWz7KP5M Jan 01 00:11:55 * ka6sox wonders how much Duct Tape actually gets used for its original purpose. Jan 01 00:13:44 1%? Jan 01 00:14:09 prpplague: ok where is the acid located? :) Jan 01 00:14:41 mranostay: ?? Jan 01 00:15:06 prpplague: trippy song :) Jan 01 00:15:25 mranostay: ahh Jan 01 00:15:42 prpplague: i wouldn't have taken you for a techno/house mouse guy Jan 01 00:15:47 *music Jan 01 00:15:58 mranostay: hehe, you see what i posted on av500 's new year post? Jan 01 00:16:10 mranostay: i am very eclectic on my music Jan 01 00:16:13 I should find that Jan 01 00:16:33 mranostay: my car got burglarized once, the police caught them with no problems Jan 01 00:17:41 prpplague: how does music relate to that? :) Jan 01 00:17:41 mranostay: they had a hard time explaining how they came by a 10 CD set of "Sitar Masters" while driving a far truck and having nothing but country western music in the truck.... Jan 01 00:17:55 s/far/farm Jan 01 00:18:42 heh Jan 01 00:19:43 prpplague: i have that with my kindle as well Jan 01 00:20:11 Russ: waiting for my wife to notice the lights on the ceiling fan when she comes back by Jan 01 00:20:26 heh Jan 01 00:20:29 its a rave! Jan 01 00:20:33 prpplague: disco? Jan 01 00:21:35 hehe Jan 01 00:21:40 prpplague, guess they liked Ravi.... Jan 01 00:22:15 prpplague: please tell me you don't like country :) Jan 01 00:22:40 mranostay: hehe, i've been know to listen to some, but i like a wide range of music Jan 01 00:26:51 mranostay, what? you don't like "Red Solo Cup"??? Jan 01 00:30:04 "She Thinks My Dev Board is Sexy" Jan 01 00:30:24 as long as you are not doing gangam style dev, all is good Jan 01 00:30:35 that would be better :) Jan 01 00:31:04 YIL gangnam has a lot of bonga Jan 01 00:31:30 * mranostay facepalms Jan 01 00:33:46 mranostay: no wait...... mru doing gangam style.... wait... wait... now facepalm Jan 01 00:34:12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_miGclPFGs <--- heres a good song Jan 01 00:35:15 mph__: ha Jan 01 00:35:28 1 pound beagle Jan 01 00:36:29 mph__: the girls in the video look they are having a fun time though, hehe Jan 01 00:37:00 * mranostay tries to picture mru doing gangnam style Jan 01 00:37:11 yet another reason to come to ELC! Jan 01 00:37:22 Russ: hehe Jan 01 00:37:22 well, i'm on a mission of a project Jan 01 00:37:28 i'm wondering if i'm insane Jan 01 00:37:31 but we'll see Jan 01 00:38:01 is anyone else picturing this guy in a 5 dollar footlong video? Jan 01 00:38:07 mph__: catch-22 Jan 01 00:38:35 over ethernet over ethercat Jan 01 00:38:36 mranostay, you are too young to understand that reference :P Jan 01 00:38:40 Russ: HA Jan 01 00:38:44 Russ: i am now Jan 01 00:38:48 * mranostay smacks ka6sox :) Jan 01 00:38:54 all the bits are there to pull it off i think Jan 01 00:39:24 Russ, I won't be able to sleep tonight... Jan 01 00:39:36 mph__: how about some bollywood? http://youtu.be/yh2K9VlGj9Q Jan 01 00:39:55 no thinks Jan 01 00:40:25 did I hear a 'shoty'? Jan 01 00:42:43 mph__: geez thanks i have that in my head now Jan 01 00:43:00 1 ound fish, very very cheap Jan 01 00:43:08 that songs gone abosultely stupid. Jan 01 00:43:23 I assume this is a real fish monger in London? Jan 01 00:43:25 Russ / mranostay still one of the bests, hehe - http://youtu.be/zn7-fVtT16k Jan 01 00:43:29 (or just some made up thing. Jan 01 00:43:51 I thought london was blue screened Jan 01 00:44:41 oh i can tell this isn't going to be PC :) Jan 01 00:44:46 in ad atm Jan 01 00:48:14 no hes from bangaledese Jan 01 00:48:19 mranostay: the doc brown vs. doc who is pretty funny too Jan 01 00:48:20 and this thing went viral Jan 01 00:48:30 and i think hes now in paris recording a CD!!! Jan 01 00:48:52 mph__: ha Jan 01 00:49:25 mph__: the same thing happened to mdp and his 6502 presentation! Jan 01 00:49:46 I miss my 6502 Jan 01 00:49:54 mph__: well not really, but it was just a cheesy Jan 01 00:49:59 * prpplague jokes with mdp Jan 01 00:50:07 s/a/as Jan 01 00:50:31 btw, mph is not miles per hour Jan 01 00:50:45 it is mrpackethead Jan 01 00:51:02 ZL2? Jan 01 00:53:13 mph__: sounds better than what i came up with... Jan 01 00:53:29 prpplague: yeah about your nick Jan 01 00:54:02 mranostay: hey i have a wikipedia entry, and you? Jan 01 00:54:25 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_plague Jan 01 00:55:13 ah it is my legal name? :) Jan 01 00:55:38 * prpplague has a DBA as prpplague Jan 01 00:56:31 mranostay: hehe Jan 01 00:56:51 mranostay: hey place nice or will post more nixie tube pr0n Jan 01 00:57:00 s/place/play Jan 01 00:59:46 prpplague: why is it named plague? Jan 01 01:00:15 hmm AuAl2 Jan 01 01:00:24 mranostay: because it cost TI about $65million dollars Jan 01 01:00:59 mranostay: TI made most of the chips for all the Bally and Atari arcade video games Jan 01 01:01:07 mranostay: they started failing after 6 months Jan 01 01:01:21 ah so it causes peeling and loose contacts of the traces? Jan 01 01:01:23 mranostay: the CEO at the time called it a "IC plague" Jan 01 01:01:56 mranostay: yea, the bonding between the silicon substrate and the wires bringing out the signals Jan 01 01:02:58 mranostay: in addition TI was on the hook for four DoD satelites that failed Jan 01 01:03:44 ewww.. Jan 01 01:03:48 that coudl be reallyexpensive Jan 01 01:03:58 oops :) Jan 01 01:04:04 mranostay: i started using the nick as a half joke about the movie "Hackers" Jan 01 01:04:11 i went to the CREE facotry in China last year Jan 01 01:04:27 and watched the machines bonding the LED die to the lead frame Jan 01 01:04:38 mranostay: kind of stuck about 25 years ago Jan 01 01:05:20 your handle? Jan 01 01:05:23 mranostay: before the movie, but it really was a joke aftewards Jan 01 01:05:41 amazing tech.. Cree are using Gold wire Jan 01 01:05:42 Russ: yea Jan 01 01:05:59 they weighed the spools in and out at the start and end of each shift Jan 01 01:05:59 if I make a web 2.0ish application, there will be no user name entry Jan 01 01:06:01 only handle Jan 01 01:07:00 prpplague: so the Al is on the substrate? Jan 01 01:07:24 I like how crashing 1500 computers in a *SINGLE DAY* is a bit deal Jan 01 01:07:32 er, big deal Jan 01 01:08:44 er, was Jan 01 01:08:57 i once had to hard kill a datacenter. Jan 01 01:09:02 that was not a fun devcision Jan 01 01:09:24 mranostay: not initially, the structures "grow" Jan 01 01:09:59 mranostay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisker_%28metallurgy%29 Jan 01 01:10:22 is this like Zinc Whiskers Jan 01 01:10:27 tin Jan 01 01:10:54 mph__: similar yes Jan 01 01:11:48 fqmilar with that problem Jan 01 01:11:49 there were several manned DoD space missions that were almost disasters due to "whiskers" Jan 01 01:12:03 thats toppled some main frames Jan 01 01:12:05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJjIclFh7hY Jan 01 01:12:11 problem is that the DoD did not share the info with NASA for almost 10 years Jan 01 01:12:20 (time lapse) Jan 01 01:12:53 Russ: wow Jan 01 01:15:27 prpplague: they will take my lead solder from my cold dead hands :P Jan 01 01:15:49 mranostay: hehe Jan 01 01:16:11 mranostay: lead and lead solder Jan 01 01:16:48 heh Jan 01 01:18:54 oh yeah. Jan 01 01:19:20 PbF - ugh. Jan 01 01:19:27 though its much better than it used to be Jan 01 01:25:21 so you experts, has anyone tryed porting the beagle design onto their own hardware? Jan 01 01:28:22 i have just been corrected Jan 01 01:28:36 the 1 pund fish man is from pakistan Jan 01 01:45:19 mph__: beagle design? Jan 01 01:45:33 beagle-isy design Jan 01 01:45:46 beaglish design Jan 01 01:46:14 the capes are great, but you end up with a lot of hardware you don't need Jan 01 01:46:25 and then space and size gets pushed out Jan 01 02:01:43 I was curious - My BeagleBone doesn't boot until I hit the reset button. For example, I apply power, then hit the reset button otherwise it will never jump into the OS. Is this intended behavior? Jan 01 02:02:34 i dont' remember ever seeing that Jan 01 02:05:09 A fix I did have was by serial console - type boot into the U-Boot# prompt. However, this does add an additional step that may be skipped... Jan 01 02:09:18 maybe somethign is amiss with your build process **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 01 02:59:57 2013