**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 10 03:00:00 2013
Jan 10 03:18:10 <ka6sox> I don't believe that mranostay is gone
Jan 10 03:19:08 <mrpacket_> what hardware is on a beagle that is redundant for my application.
Jan 10 03:19:27 <mrpacket_> probably get rid of the USB host stuff
Jan 10 03:20:23 <Zaxx> Hello, I have been trying to download "ti_cgt_c6000_7.2.7_setup_linux_x86.bin" for Linux from the TI website https://www-a.ti.com/downloads/sds_support/TICodegenerationTools/download.htm but for the last three days all I get are errors.
Jan 10 03:20:40 <Zaxx> Does anyone know of a download location for this file (aside from TI)?
Jan 10 03:55:25 <mranostay> *grumble* out of beer
Jan 10 04:05:11 <Russ> https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=38538
Jan 10 04:25:25 <mranostay> sup aholler_
Jan 10 04:54:26 <mrpacket_> s5fs: debian
Jan 10 06:11:14 <mranostay> hi mrpackethead_
Jan 10 06:15:46 <mrpackethead_> mranostay: hi
Jan 10 07:00:19 <av500> lo
Jan 10 07:02:16 <emeb_mac> wassup?
Jan 10 07:10:01 * mranostay bear hugs av500 
Jan 10 07:26:34 <av500> mranostay: what happened to the US and personal space?
Jan 10 07:26:55 <emeb_mac> he was raised wrong.
Jan 10 07:28:12 <mranostay> i know too many europeans
Jan 10 07:28:17 <mranostay> it warped me
Jan 10 07:28:49 * mranostay fires his .45 randomly in the air to offset it
Jan 10 07:32:25 <emeb_mac> you at a wedding or something?
Jan 10 07:35:40 <av500> emeb_mac: don't let the drone detect the firing
Jan 10 07:37:47 * mranostay shoots av500 drone
Jan 10 07:40:27 <av500> mranostay: you came to a predator air strike with a .22?
Jan 10 07:40:35 <av500> mranostay:  http://speyer.technik-museum.de/de/de/spaceshuttle-buran
Jan 10 07:40:44 <av500> in case you come visit me
Jan 10 07:40:52 <av500> and you want more than hugs
Jan 10 07:42:24 <emeb_mac> or this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OieVQqkLHI
Jan 10 07:43:11 <emeb_mac> why does the Buran look like it has jet engines?
Jan 10 07:43:29 <mranostay> in 40k miles i'll visit you :P
Jan 10 07:46:34 <mranostay> av500: more than hugs? do tell :)
Jan 10 07:49:26 <Russ> http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/spacecraft/buran/buran-wreckage2.jpg
Jan 10 07:52:11 <ka6sox> Russ, what caused that?
Jan 10 07:52:18 <Russ> lack of maintenance
Jan 10 07:54:10 <ka6sox> the building collapsed on it?
Jan 10 07:54:56 <Russ> yup
Jan 10 07:57:10 * mranostay thinks of another PRUSS demo
Jan 10 07:58:47 * mranostay pokes Russ 
Jan 10 07:58:56 <Russ> yes?
Jan 10 07:59:59 <mranostay> Russ: what is your PRUSS demo?
Jan 10 08:00:19 <ggh> Hi, i'm trying to find out what the best way to get the linux headers for the ubuntu image that Robert puts out. The kernel version I have is kernel-headers-3.2.33-psp26
Jan 10 08:01:01 <Russ> I don't have one, I'm doing omap hibernation
Jan 10 08:01:23 <mranostay> Russ: i thought you had a PRUSS talk
Jan 10 08:02:08 <Russ> I was trying to come up with a good one, something about supported an industrial bus or something
Jan 10 08:02:14 <Russ> don't think I ever found a good canidate
Jan 10 08:02:47 <mranostay> well i've been told my talk is probably going to be accepted
Jan 10 08:03:02 <mranostay> why do i sign myself up for this stuff? :)
Jan 10 08:03:06 <Russ> I don't know who you could possibly know with such intimate insider knowledge
Jan 10 08:03:23 <mranostay> heh
Jan 10 08:03:40 <mranostay> touche Russ :)
Jan 10 08:18:05 * mranostay pokes tema 
Jan 10 08:18:42 <mranostay> wrong channel even
Jan 10 08:18:45 <tema> mranostay, stop this.. i need some sleep ;)
Jan 10 08:19:30 <mranostay> it is noon there
Jan 10 09:19:45 <panto> hi
Jan 10 09:31:55 <mranostay> panto: hey ho^M^M wrong channel
Jan 10 09:32:33 * Russ attempts to decode the missing two letters
Jan 10 09:32:39 <Russ> is this like wheel of fortune?
Jan 10 09:33:34 <mranostay> only HR bot listens
Jan 10 09:40:16 <mranostay> sleepy time
Jan 10 09:47:51 <Guest76346> Hi am checking file encryption and decryption in development board,if i apply file for encryption encrypted file also contains same data please check pastebin http://pastebin.com/3SYJ29fE
Jan 10 09:48:26 <Guest76346> How to solve this issue,what went wrong.
Jan 10 09:53:29 <Russ> I would guess your cryptodev engine is broken
Jan 10 09:59:03 <Guest76346> HI Russ..it's showing message like,   engine "cryptodev" set.    please check this link http://pastebin.com/DQntBrXn
Jan 10 10:12:35 <av500> what has this got to do with beagleboard?
Jan 10 10:14:18 <Guest76346> yes
Jan 10 10:14:26 <dm8tbr> LOL
Jan 10 10:23:59 <av500> 54!
Jan 10 10:24:24 <LetoThe2nd> 42 * 3.14151
Jan 10 11:48:30 <mdp> aholler_: you only infiltrated one of the hideouts
Jan 10 13:07:16 <av500> http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/57589-upstream-vendors-can-harm-small-projects-openbsd-dev
Jan 10 13:19:09 <koen> you can pry 'sed -i' from my cold dead hands
Jan 10 13:21:31 <mdp> BSD developer...*plonk*
Jan 10 13:21:33 <mdp> ;)
Jan 10 13:24:20 <av500> koen: once gnu/linux is dead, cold and forgotten the BSD people take it from you again....
Jan 10 13:25:50 <mdp> btw, neckbeard alert
Jan 10 13:37:22 <av500> ....If it isn't to be found in the bible, I'm sure the answer must be found somewhere in a gun shop......
Jan 10 13:37:25 <av500> nice one
Jan 10 13:38:17 <ogra_> lol
Jan 10 13:40:10 <av500> mdp: well, kudos to lennart that the best place to read ranting on him is on his own g+ stream :)
Jan 10 13:40:14 <av500> ranting about him*
Jan 10 13:40:37 <mdp> hehe
Jan 10 13:43:44 <jackmitchell> av500: I do think he revels in the flames a bit much though - he brings it on himself these days
Jan 10 13:51:09 <woglinde> ah a nice strategy of us linux looser to root down bsd
Jan 10 13:52:39 <av500> woglinde: killing *BSD is the only thing left before we can take over the world
Jan 10 13:52:53 <woglinde> but the same problem exist with glibc and uclibc
Jan 10 13:53:16 <av500> that and removing framebuffer support from modern PCs so neckbeards cannot run a text console any more but have to use openGL....
Jan 10 13:53:30 <woglinde> haha
Jan 10 13:54:02 <dm8tbr> x.org is just a terminal multiplexer anyway...
Jan 10 13:54:58 <woglinde> av500 and the other nice thing is that the bsd folks do not send patches for upstream so they need to make patches for every new release
Jan 10 13:55:21 <av500> woglinde: all these patches are just reverting stuff, so why accept them :)
Jan 10 13:57:19 <woglinde> hm when he dont like autotools he could use gyp
Jan 10 13:57:45 <av500> in fact autotools are useless
Jan 10 13:57:52 <av500> on linux they are not needed
Jan 10 13:57:57 <woglinde> not for me
Jan 10 13:58:00 <av500> and on other distros they dont work :)
Jan 10 13:58:08 <av500> solved :)
Jan 10 14:00:51 <woglinde> av50 why he talks about javascript I am puzzeld
Jan 10 14:01:59 <woglinde> and why its about small projects, when he metions gcc webkit kde and so on
Jan 10 14:02:34 <woglinde> or did he mean openbsd with small project
Jan 10 14:03:36 <av500> woglinde: you have to read between the lines
Jan 10 14:03:45 <mdp> av500, but will we kill *BSD with android, ubuntu, or hurd? I'm not sure of the best weapon to wield.
Jan 10 14:03:50 <av500> it says "THEY are out to get US"
Jan 10 14:04:51 <woglinde> hm RIM has a nice strategy to stay in buisness now
Jan 10 14:04:57 <woglinde> converter for android apps
Jan 10 14:05:21 <woglinde> and everybody can convert your app and sell them at the rim store
Jan 10 14:05:33 <woglinde> you have to beg rim to take it from their market
Jan 10 14:05:38 <av500> url?
Jan 10 14:05:48 <woglinde> only german
Jan 10 14:06:11 <ogra_> wasnt trhat at golem or heise today ?
Jan 10 14:06:16 <woglinde> yes
Jan 10 14:06:28 <av500> each time I see golem url, I think "uh golem still exists"
Jan 10 14:06:36 <ogra_> heh
Jan 10 14:06:52 <av500> http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/166lgt/developers_check_the_blackberry_store_for_pirated/
Jan 10 14:07:06 <ogra_> yeah, that one
Jan 10 14:13:19 <av500> woglinde: but that article is non-news
Jan 10 14:13:24 <av500> android apps get stolen all the time
Jan 10 14:13:41 <av500> I bet the RIM piracy is on a subpercent level
Jan 10 14:13:43 <woglinde> yes
Jan 10 14:14:15 <woglinde> hm I might be enough for some thousands doolars
Jan 10 14:32:51 <lambert> does anyone know if git.angstrom-distribution.org is down?  I keep getting connection refused
Jan 10 14:51:08 <woglinde> lambert use the github
Jan 10 14:53:05 <lambert> woglinde: https://github.com/Angstrom-distribution/setup-scripts.git  ??
Jan 10 14:56:31 <woglinde> lambert exactly
Jan 10 15:05:52 <wmat> heh, git.angstrom-distribution.org resolves to World of XorA
Jan 10 15:08:39 <lambert> woglinde: thanks!
Jan 10 15:08:47 <mranostay> morning
Jan 10 15:08:58 <mranostay> wmat: some uk reference i guess :P
Jan 10 15:10:38 <woglinde> damn xfs
Jan 10 15:10:41 <woglinde> rm -rf hangs
Jan 10 15:20:46 <av500> somebody dropped 2 80C186 on my desk
Jan 10 15:21:53 <mdp> combine with RPi...profit!
Jan 10 15:23:53 <av500> combine as in hot glue?
Jan 10 15:23:57 * av500 can do that
Jan 10 15:24:05 <mdp> yes
Jan 10 15:24:25 <mdp> breathe deeply and then join the conversation on #rpi
Jan 10 15:28:19 <aholler_> mdp: hmm, yes, i did'nt look at #rpi
Jan 10 15:28:40 <lambert> Can anyone recommend a good filesystem for beaglebone if I wanted to boot using a 3.7 kernel?
Jan 10 15:28:49 <mdp> aholler_: sekrit hiding channels all over the place
Jan 10 15:29:57 <woglinde> lambert ext4?
Jan 10 15:30:24 * av500 recommends a root filesystem
Jan 10 15:30:32 <lambert> woglinde: sorry... angstrom, busybox, ubuntu, etc...
Jan 10 15:30:47 <woglinde> you mean image
Jan 10 15:30:47 * lambert smacks own face
Jan 10 15:30:54 <av500> or distribution
Jan 10 15:31:10 <ogra_> root filesystem ?
Jan 10 15:31:15 <mdp> lambert: I use some version of http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/Angstrom-systemd-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone.rootfs.tar.bz2
Jan 10 15:31:29 <adj> or has ubuntu already made their own filesystem because ext4 is too difficult and not used on macs?
Jan 10 15:31:50 <mdp> lambert, however, your religion my preclude use of systemd ;)
Jan 10 15:31:57 <mdp> s/my/may/
Jan 10 15:32:30 <lambert> mdp: my religion is... "flexible"...
Jan 10 15:32:44 <mdp> :)
Jan 10 15:33:06 <mdp> koen has greatly optimized the boot time on that one..I like it for my devel purposes
Jan 10 15:33:36 <mdp> and I'm lazy and have the native toolchain installed to compile little test apps..works for my flow
Jan 10 15:33:47 <lambert> mdp: OK... I'm currently building a v2012.12 angstrom... any chance it would work as well?
Jan 10 15:33:52 <mdp> and canonical would be proud of my natively compiling stuff on the arm
Jan 10 15:34:16 <mdp> lambert: there's a chance
Jan 10 15:34:18 <woglinde> mdp enynox octa ,)
Jan 10 15:34:21 <ogra_> why canonical ?
Jan 10 15:34:22 <mdp> OE builds never work for me
Jan 10 15:34:26 <ogra_> thats a debian inheritance
Jan 10 15:34:52 <mdp> ogra_, a poke at canonical's love of vast native arm build farms and hate of cross compiling
Jan 10 15:35:19 <woglinde> hate?
Jan 10 15:35:28 <ogra_> well, you can nowadays cross build 70-80% of ubuntu already
Jan 10 15:35:56 <ogra_> canonical pays a ton of people to make that happen ... (and to push it into debian)
Jan 10 15:37:01 <lambert> mdp: never hurts to try then... thanks for the help
Jan 10 15:37:17 <mdp> all kidding aside...you are probably in good shape there
Jan 10 15:37:39 <mdp> "works for me"
Jan 10 15:37:41 <lambert> mdp: this, of course, assumes I've built the kernel correctly
Jan 10 15:38:06 <mdp> bah, kernel is easy...userspace is hard ;)
Jan 10 15:38:10 <mdp> something like that
Jan 10 15:39:20 <lambert> mdp: that's what I'm finding... but what I usually get is it just doesn't boot with no logs or anything and I'm left wondering what the @#$@ I've done wrong
Jan 10 15:40:04 <mdp> which kernel?
Jan 10 15:40:24 <lambert> 3.7
Jan 10 15:40:26 <mdp> beagleboard/kernel 3.7 branch?
Jan 10 15:40:30 <lambert> yep
Jan 10 15:41:07 <mdp> did you use the config in the TLD configs/ directory of that repo?
Jan 10 15:41:14 <lambert> yes
Jan 10 15:41:36 <mdp> hrm...tbh, I haven't run that branch at all..however, several others here have
Jan 10 15:41:55 <mranostay> kkeller: hey d00d
Jan 10 15:42:25 <kkeller> morning mranostay
Jan 10 15:42:55 <jsabeaudry> When trying to pull beagleboard/kernel I get a ton of merge conflicts in patches, The readme does not specify how I should update to a more recent version should I clean some stuff or soemthing similar?
Jan 10 15:43:54 <mdp> you have to pull and then rebuild a new branch
Jan 10 15:44:00 <mdp> those branches are one-off
Jan 10 15:44:05 <mdp> that it generates
Jan 10 15:44:21 <mdp> it's a completely different model from a continually rebased integration tree
Jan 10 15:44:41 <mdp> koen does it that way because it's easier for him to deal with the patches and use the same list for OE recipes
Jan 10 15:45:24 <av500> maybe a gerrit server would help?
Jan 10 15:46:14 <mdp> Can gerrit help here?
Jan 10 15:48:06 <av500> yes, koen could develop linux and throw an AOST release over the fence every 6 month
Jan 10 15:48:11 <av500> A=Angstrom =
Jan 10 15:48:13 <av500> A=Angstrom :)
Jan 10 15:48:20 <av500> AOSP
Jan 10 15:48:31 <av500> patches would go to gerrit and rot there :)
Jan 10 15:51:41 <mdp> but first he would put out a binary product with the source balls for only the gpl stuff available...6 months before he dumps it all to AOSP
Jan 10 15:51:44 <mranostay> av500: where bits go to die
Jan 10 15:52:21 <mdp> then we can all talk about when koen's next big AOSP dump is coming so we can harvest the codez
Jan 10 15:53:40 <av500> yes
Jan 10 15:54:46 <av500> mdp: adn we would have xda dev repackage the binary drops
Jan 10 15:54:53 <av500> into new ROMs
Jan 10 15:55:53 <mdp> av500, we would probably have a TrollMod custom ROM of Angstrom for our Beagles
Jan 10 15:56:08 * aholler_ suggests this for everyone here http://www.getdigital.de/products/Panikknopf/lng/en
Jan 10 15:56:11 <mdp> with all the features the evil Angstrom project won't put in
Jan 10 15:58:03 <av500> aholler_: bullshit, you need this button: http://www.getdigital.de/products/Bullshitknopf/lng/en
Jan 10 15:58:23 <aholler_> I'm happy with the panic button ;)
Jan 10 15:58:52 <jsabeaudry> mdp, ok, thanks, that does it.
Jan 10 16:00:02 <mdp> cool
Jan 10 16:02:52 <jsabeaudry> panto, The other day you mentionned a cover letter and patches for dtc, would you happen to have a link to all that close-by ?
Jan 10 16:03:16 <panto> jsabeaudry, you'll have to remind me what we were talking about :)
Jan 10 16:03:58 <jsabeaudry> panto, somehow your dts files for capes did not build, I think it had something to do with the fact that they are /plugins/
Jan 10 16:04:11 <panto> ah, that
Jan 10 16:04:30 <jsabeaudry> (i just apt-getted device-tree-compiler)
Jan 10 16:04:38 <panto> err, that's not gonna work
Jan 10 16:04:50 <panto> the kernel has it own dtc compiler
Jan 10 16:07:16 <panto> jsabeaudry, pull from git://www.jdl.com/software/dtc.git and apply "dtc: Dynamic symbols & fixup support"
Jan 10 16:07:40 <panto> it's is considerable easier if you just pulled from my tree?
Jan 10 16:08:48 <jsabeaudry> I only see your kernel repo, the dtc is mixed up in there?
Jan 10 16:09:36 <panto> yes
Jan 10 16:10:30 <jsabeaudry> not-capebus-v12 is the branch I should use?
Jan 10 16:10:52 <panto> it's the latest yes
Jan 10 16:12:21 <jsabeaudry> Alrighty, I'll give that a spin, thanks!
Jan 10 16:13:02 <panto> you're welcome
Jan 10 16:16:24 <mranostay> panto: be sure to close your tickets please
Jan 10 16:16:33 * panto watches the big-board
Jan 10 16:21:54 <jsabeaudry> panto, out of curiosity, which cross-compiling toolchain do you use?
Jan 10 16:22:21 <panto> 4.5.4 something
Jan 10 16:22:39 * panto can't be bothered to remember where he got the toolchain 
Jan 10 16:22:56 <panto> it compiles code and doesn't crap out
Jan 10 16:22:58 <panto> that's enough
Jan 10 16:24:01 <jsabeaudry> hehe
Jan 10 16:26:18 * alan_o just sent to a customer exact steps on how to get code out of his git repository... *sigh*
Jan 10 16:26:52 <woglinde> alan_o extra pay
Jan 10 16:26:54 <alan_o> they bailed on my more high-level instructions last night, and asked me to drive in the compiled binaries on CD :(
Jan 10 16:27:08 <alan_o> woglinde: I wish, this is a fixed-price contract :(
Jan 10 16:27:19 <alan_o> and I've already spent way too much time debugging their hardware.
Jan 10 16:27:44 <woglinde> alan_o hm so better let them rot
Jan 10 16:27:55 <alan_o> The fixed price ones always go like that. The time&materials contracts are always smooth sailing.
Jan 10 16:28:36 <alan_o> I don't know about letting them _rot_ :)
Jan 10 16:28:47 <alan_o> I do want to get paid eventually.
Jan 10 16:28:55 <woglinde> haha
Jan 10 16:29:14 <woglinde> so ship them a cd
Jan 10 16:29:19 <alan_o> Git is hard for non-programmer types (and for many "programmers") The whole key stuff, and it's a little weird on Windows.
Jan 10 16:29:23 <dm8tbr> at least on CD, not on a tape...
Jan 10 16:29:59 <alan_o> dm8tbr: I should respond, "I only deliver on tape. company policy, sorry my hands are tied."
Jan 10 16:30:08 <jsabeaudry> alan_o, our windows guys just love GitExtensions
Jan 10 16:30:08 <dm8tbr> git clone is not that hard. the other stuff can be obscure, but for a pure checkout...
Jan 10 16:30:59 <alan_o> dm8tbr: well it's not git clone, it's getting something installed that works; generating an ssh key, uploading the SSH key to my server (web interface), etc.
Jan 10 16:31:07 <alan_o> This one guy in particular has never used command line of any kind
Jan 10 16:31:23 <dm8tbr> ok, that might be a tiny bit challenging...
Jan 10 16:31:59 <av500> alan_o: "I only deliver on tape. company policy, sorry my hands are taped."
Jan 10 16:32:05 <alan_o> hah
Jan 10 16:32:57 <lambert> could be worse... http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2092/2397460141_585d99eb80_o.jpg
Jan 10 16:33:10 <lambert> I actually have a reader in the back somewhere
Jan 10 16:33:59 <dm8tbr> we had one of these teletypes, attached to the congress network... you could send and receive text messages
Jan 10 16:35:21 <lambert> yup... outputs a speedy 110 baud...
Jan 10 16:38:21 * mranostay sense prpplague is near
Jan 10 16:38:50 <prpplague> indeed
Jan 10 16:39:08 <prpplague> im
Jan 10 16:39:34 <prpplague> in the lobby waiting for my first interview of the day
Jan 10 16:39:45 * ogra_ crosses fingers
Jan 10 16:40:10 <Jacmet> prpplague: good luck
Jan 10 16:40:16 <jsabeaudry> prpplague, google?
Jan 10 16:40:23 <panto> hi prpplague
Jan 10 16:40:42 <prpplague> panto greetings
Jan 10 16:40:58 <prpplague> jacmet thanks
Jan 10 16:41:13 <prpplague> lab126
Jan 10 16:42:26 <prpplague> the hotel said there might be traffic, there was none so we got get 30 minutes early
Jan 10 16:45:31 <mranostay> prpplague: dressed to kill?
Jan 10 16:46:11 <prpplague> yep
Jan 10 16:47:03 <bradfa> prpplague, good luck!
Jan 10 16:47:03 <mranostay> no engineer dresses up here :)
Jan 10 16:47:08 <prpplague> purple shirt and tie
Jan 10 16:47:15 <prpplague> thanks
Jan 10 16:47:16 <av500> ooooh
Jan 10 16:47:18 <mdp> rockin' the kilt
Jan 10 16:47:22 <mranostay> heh
Jan 10 16:47:24 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 10 16:47:43 <mranostay> mdp: i'm do that with a goatee for my next job interview
Jan 10 16:48:06 <mdp> mranostay, do the pr0n-stache
Jan 10 16:48:26 <mranostay> sadly that grows in patchy
Jan 10 16:49:58 <mranostay> when wearing a kilt do you have to cross your legs like a skirt?
Jan 10 16:50:12 <bradfa> mranostay, depends
Jan 10 16:51:42 <mranostay> bradfa: on what? if everyone else is into that? :)
Jan 10 16:52:07 <bradfa> mranostay, basically
Jan 10 16:52:22 <bradfa> but I don't wear skirts, so not really sure how everyone else feels
Jan 10 16:52:34 <bradfa> I'd say it's optional for kilts
Jan 10 16:52:42 <bradfa> depending on the audience
Jan 10 17:16:50 <XorA> morning
Jan 10 17:17:38 <XorA> the sporron on a kilt prevents it riding up like a skirt and showing your junk :-D
Jan 10 17:19:38 <av500> the what?
Jan 10 17:20:54 <XorA> the big handbag thing that hangs in front of your junk
Jan 10 17:20:57 <av500> ah
Jan 10 17:21:26 * XorA is probably the enemy of all scots now for that description
Jan 10 17:24:36 <mdp> XorA, that's an interesting way to describe the sporron, I must reuse that ;)
Jan 10 17:26:32 <av500> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporran
Jan 10 17:26:37 <av500> sporran
Jan 10 17:28:00 <XorA> an article written by an American who thinks everyone in the highlands spends all day in a kilt :-D
Jan 10 17:30:25 <mdp> they don't?
Jan 10 17:31:01 <av500> mdp: sometimes the drop the kilt and wear only the sporran
Jan 10 17:31:05 <av500> they*
Jan 10 17:31:21 <mdp> when they're all bidness
Jan 10 17:41:21 <s5fs> XorA: as an american, i'm quite surprised that you do not :-/
Jan 10 17:43:13 <mdp> s5fs, +1
Jan 10 17:55:11 <mranostay> i figured everyone wore lederhosen in germany as well
Jan 10 17:56:41 <aholler_> we're looking like ötzi
Jan 10 17:57:15 <mranostay> dm8tbr: nice email
Jan 10 17:57:38 <woglinde> all women in dirndl yes
Jan 10 17:59:18 <dm8tbr> mranostay: that's why I shared it :)
Jan 10 17:59:42 <dm8tbr> sharing is caring
Jan 10 18:00:37 <mdp> lol, just caught up on g+
Jan 10 18:00:58 <mranostay> robot douchebags hehe
Jan 10 18:02:44 <XorA> s5fs: :-D
Jan 10 18:03:27 <mranostay> av500: so do you have lederhosen at all? :)
Jan 10 18:32:05 <dm8tbr> ok, talk proposal submitted
Jan 10 18:32:13 <dm8tbr> let's see...
Jan 10 18:37:38 <mdp> dm8tbr: did Russ warn you about rejection for bad punctuation? :)
Jan 10 18:38:13 <aholler_> just use scripts/checkpatch.pl
Jan 10 18:38:14 <dm8tbr> lol
Jan 10 18:38:37 <mdp> don't mess with prpplague
Jan 10 18:46:08 <mranostay> didn't use a comma here.. rejected..
Jan 10 18:46:29 <mdp> [maniacal laugh]
Jan 10 18:47:18 <mdp> lots of brown paper bag bugs this week..I'm almost out of bags
Jan 10 18:48:51 <mranostay> plastic bags next? :)
Jan 10 18:49:00 <dm8tbr> is that like wtf-per-minute but for bugs?
Jan 10 18:49:06 <dm8tbr> brown-bags-per bug?
Jan 10 18:49:40 <mdp> yes
Jan 10 18:49:46 <mdp> bugs inserted per bug fix
Jan 10 18:49:59 <mdp> the buggy bug fix that creates bugs
Jan 10 18:50:13 <dm8tbr> they are multiplyin'!
Jan 10 18:50:16 <mdp> mranostay, if I get there, I will secure the first one tightly around my neck
Jan 10 18:50:39 <mdp> fertile bugs
Jan 10 18:52:17 * dm8tbr humms "I got bugs and they're multiplyin; And I'm losing control; 'Cause the power you're supplying; It's electrifying!
Jan 10 18:52:20 <dm8tbr> "
Jan 10 18:52:52 <dm8tbr> s/power/code/
Jan 10 18:52:56 <mdp> "you better wake up....cause I need a bugfixx...."
Jan 10 18:53:07 <dm8tbr> further adaptation left to the inclined audience
Jan 10 18:53:11 <dm8tbr> :)
Jan 10 18:54:45 <mdp> yay, -rc3 didn't break anything...
Jan 10 19:03:16 <aholler_> hmm, xbmc on android
Jan 10 19:04:27 <woglinde> and?
Jan 10 19:04:47 <aholler_> or
Jan 10 19:05:00 <woglinde> nor
Jan 10 19:06:52 <dm8tbr> LetoThe2nd: around? some wild panda needs a hug (or kick)
Jan 10 19:07:19 <dm8tbr> or anyone else with op on #pandaboard
Jan 10 19:08:33 <aholler_> now all rpis will switch from linux to android
Jan 10 19:08:58 <jsabeaudry> Does that seem right in order to get /dev/spidev2.0 ? http://pastebin.ca/2301099
Jan 10 19:19:47 <alan_o> jsabeaudry: pinmux?
Jan 10 19:22:28 <jsabeaudry> alan_o, ya pinmux is in previous fragment, thats pretty straightforward to find examples of pinmux, spidev I haven't found any examples except on msp430
Jan 10 19:25:35 <jsabeaudry> alan_o, the rest looks good?
Jan 10 19:29:58 <alan_o> jsabeaudry: beats me :)
Jan 10 19:30:15 <alan_o> jsabeaudry: I'm not an expert
Jan 10 19:30:34 <alan_o> but, I wanted to make sure you had thought about pinmux. I assume it's not working for you
Jan 10 19:30:44 <mranostay> jsabeaudry: what are you using SPI for?
Jan 10 19:32:05 <jsabeaudry> mranostay, programming a fpga
Jan 10 19:35:49 * emeb hears something...
Jan 10 19:36:04 <mranostay> yes i was expecting that
Jan 10 19:37:30 <emeb> OK - I'm feeling really dumb here: what's all this fragment stuff?
Jan 10 19:37:49 <jsabeaudry> panto, once i cloned your repo, anything special i need to do besides "make dtbs" in order to used the patched dtc ?
Jan 10 19:37:51 <aholler_> confuscation
Jan 10 19:39:11 <jsabeaudry> emeb, from what I can understand you can define device tree "plugins" that will add to an existing tree, the fragments all have a target to which they add stuff
Jan 10 19:39:30 <emeb> jsabeaudry: what file are these fragments in?
Jan 10 19:39:48 * emeb is used to doing this stuff in the boardfile but is clearly becoming fossilized.
Jan 10 19:39:54 <mdp> emeb, are you saying you've only heard bits and pieces about these fragments?
Jan 10 19:40:04 <aholler_> sounds like dynamic dt
Jan 10 19:40:05 <emeb> mdp: :)
Jan 10 19:40:26 <mranostay> *groans*
Jan 10 19:40:39 <mranostay> mdp: hand over the paper bag
Jan 10 19:40:41 <mrpackethead_> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/01/09/1456251/a-least-half-a-million-raspberry-pis-sold
Jan 10 19:40:58 <mdp> and for my next trick...
Jan 10 19:41:08 <emeb> yep - and I'd bet 90% of them are sitting in the original box...
Jan 10 19:41:11 <jsabeaudry> emeb: which fragments?
Jan 10 19:41:37 <emeb> jsabeaudry: the ones you pastebinned.
Jan 10 19:42:12 <emeb> I assume this is some sort of device tree stuff that happens dynamically in response to action in userland
Jan 10 19:42:13 <jsabeaudry> emeb, they are still in a scratch pad, haven't saved yet :)
Jan 10 19:42:42 <emeb> jsabeaudry: yeah, understand. but where will they end up when you're done?
Jan 10 19:42:55 <emeb> probably a config file somewhere? That's not kernel source.
Jan 10 19:43:19 * emeb is totally clueless about dt.
Jan 10 19:43:28 <jsabeaudry> emeb, definitely not kernel source, probably something like mydevice.dts
Jan 10 19:43:46 <mranostay> emeb: it cures cancer and walks your dog
Jan 10 19:44:01 <emeb> mranostay: but does it fetch you a beer?
Jan 10 19:44:08 <mranostay> the dog can
Jan 10 19:44:09 <jsabeaudry> * some conditions apply.
Jan 10 19:44:20 <mrpackethead_> msn, is being killed, users migrated to skype March 11
Jan 10 19:44:25 <mrpackethead_> and thats the news
Jan 10 19:44:38 <mranostay> yeah seems reasonable
Jan 10 19:44:42 <aholler_> they have to switch to xmpp
Jan 10 19:45:17 <mranostay> how really uses IMs anymore
Jan 10 19:45:26 <mranostay> you have G+ and FB for that
Jan 10 19:45:53 <aholler_> I have none of them
Jan 10 19:46:10 <mranostay> aholler_: married?
Jan 10 19:46:58 <aholler_> no, why? do you need them to make friends?
Jan 10 19:47:18 <mranostay> no but it a 'tool'
Jan 10 19:47:36 <mranostay> of course 90% of FB friends aren't friends
Jan 10 19:48:07 <mrpackethead_> mmm, someone is trying to port windows .NET programms writen in C# to an unbuntu based beagle, using Mono... That will be good.
Jan 10 19:48:41 <aholler_> you don't need to port them, thats the clue
Jan 10 19:49:05 <bradfa> they should rewrite in lisp
Jan 10 19:49:10 <mranostay> bradfa: nodejs
Jan 10 19:49:16 <bradfa> +1
Jan 10 19:49:24 <bradfa> can django help here?
Jan 10 19:49:40 <Russ> the guy from the movie?
Jan 10 19:50:18 <aholler_> testing mono was one of the first things I've done with the beagleboard.
Jan 10 19:50:51 <aholler_> But just to show some diehard-ms-fan that they don't need windows ce
Jan 10 19:54:01 <mrpackethead_> ha ha
Jan 10 19:54:02 <mrpackethead_> :-)
Jan 10 19:54:32 <mrpackethead_> im kind of glad that all my apps have been written natively in C
Jan 10 19:54:51 <mrpackethead_> and they seem to move between platforms without too much trouble.
Jan 10 19:55:01 <aholler_> it's hard to argue with m$-net fans
Jan 10 19:55:11 <mrpackethead_> and mac fans
Jan 10 19:55:17 <mrpackethead_> and angrstrom fans
Jan 10 19:55:32 <mrpackethead_> "os" biggotry is rife around the world.
Jan 10 19:56:14 <mrpackethead_> if you arrive here and say " Hi, i'm joe, i'm running ubuntu on my rapsberry PI ".. you'll get a bit of a reaction.
Jan 10 19:56:23 <aholler_> was around 3a before, before even the last one had heared to linux usable on arm boxes
Jan 10 19:56:32 <aholler_> s/to/that/
Jan 10 19:58:38 <panto> back
Jan 10 19:58:45 <panto> jsabeaudry, nothing
Jan 10 20:04:09 <bradfa> mrpackethead_, Hi, I'm bradfa and I'm running over my Raspberry Pi with my car, but I'm having trouble, does anyone here know anything that could help?
Jan 10 20:04:34 <mrpackethead_> bradfa: yes i can help.
Jan 10 20:05:08 <bradfa> mrpackethead_, I hooked up the battery from my car to the Raspberry Pi but it won't boot, I think I've damaged the SD card
Jan 10 20:05:15 <mrpackethead_> bradfa: you'll get a better result if you use sold steel wheels like a roller..
Jan 10 20:05:42 <jsabeaudry> panto, weird it is giving me the same error i.e. FATAL ERROR: Unable to parse input tree at the /plugin/; line
Jan 10 20:05:59 <panto> are you sure that the in kernel dtc compiler is used?
Jan 10 20:06:09 <panto> or the one you've installed
Jan 10 20:06:16 <panto> try to run the compile with V=1
Jan 10 20:06:20 <jsabeaudry> i removed the one i had installed
Jan 10 20:06:42 <panto> strange
Jan 10 20:06:56 <panto> what are the arguments passed to dtc?
Jan 10 20:06:59 <jsabeaudry> Where does the kernel dtc binary get put?
Jan 10 20:06:59 <panto> use V=1 again
Jan 10 20:07:04 <panto> scripts/dtc
Jan 10 20:10:33 <panto> anyway, time to go to bed
Jan 10 20:10:35 <panto> cya tomorrow
Jan 10 20:11:04 <jsabeaudry> panto, cya
Jan 10 20:12:51 <Marc_> Hey guys, quick noobie question: When booting Linux on the BeagleBoard-xM via network (UART/USB), is everything done completely through the network interface? I.e. it replaces the need for all traditional files used on an SD card like an MLO, u-boot, uImage, etc..
Jan 10 20:13:24 <aholler_> no
Jan 10 20:14:03 <aholler_> you need sw, no sw, no network
Jan 10 20:14:17 <aholler_> so at least mlo and u-boot is needed
Jan 10 20:14:32 <Marc_> To be actually on an SD card in the BBxM?
Jan 10 20:15:00 <aholler_> where lese?
Jan 10 20:15:50 <Marc_> Alright. It's not possible to have the boot partition over a network. That makes sense.
Jan 10 20:17:32 <aholler_> mdp: you should add Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org> to some patches
Jan 10 20:17:53 <mdp> aholler_: only one is a fix
Jan 10 20:18:15 <mdp> and it doesn't fix anything that's in the kernel...which is why I didn't mark it
Jan 10 20:18:27 <aholler_> I just had a look at that resend one
Jan 10 20:18:55 <mdp> it's a fix for a bug that doesn't happen on the davinci drivers that use dmaengine edma
Jan 10 20:19:14 <mdp> it's an incorrect implementation, but there are no in-tree users that expose it
Jan 10 20:19:19 <mdp> if that makes sense
Jan 10 20:19:33 <mdp> but I understand what you mean
Jan 10 20:19:52 <aholler_> ah, I've only read something with usb and applied it to my 3.7 for testing ;)
Jan 10 20:22:20 <mdp> aholler_: obviously I found my mutt and git-send-email commands again today
Jan 10 20:22:36 <mdp> had to leave the silo and step into the sunshine
Jan 10 20:23:22 <aholler_> hmm, mutt, to bad it is a requirement for lkml :/
Jan 10 20:24:03 <aholler_> have installed it just for that. thunderbird is a no go to post patches inline
Jan 10 20:46:36 <alan_o> aholler_: you don't need mutt for lkml. Use git-send-email and git-format-patch
Jan 10 20:47:12 <aholler_> alan_o: those don't help if you want to paste a patch inline
Jan 10 20:47:13 <alan_o> aholler_: It's very difficult to use TBird bit it can be done (and is error-prone, iirc)
Jan 10 20:47:29 <alan_o> ah paste it inline to an email?
Jan 10 20:47:45 <aholler_> yes, e.g. in an response
Jan 10 20:48:19 <alan_o> aholler_: two things for that. The easiest is to hold down shift when hitting the reply or compose button. That puts it in plain text mode
Jan 10 20:48:48 <alan_o> the other is to put it in plain text mode by default in the prefs. I've done both. I'd have to look up the setting, but I will if you're interested.
Jan 10 20:49:02 <aholler_> I've tried even the external editor and tb still thought it has to break some line
Jan 10 20:50:36 <aholler_> and I finally lost interest in trying such, just using mutt for such is easier and it keeps me save from getting some annoying style answers ;)
Jan 10 20:50:39 <mdp> alan_o, right..you could use something very hard to use an error prone..or just use mutt and it "just works"
Jan 10 20:51:03 <mdp> and not filled with all those gui distractions
Jan 10 20:53:13 <aholler_> checkpatch is already pain enough ;)
Jan 10 20:53:13 <alan_o> use what you want I guess, but you were the one lamenting about mutt :)
Jan 10 20:53:38 <aholler_> I still use tb, just not for pasting patches inline
Jan 10 20:53:47 <alan_o> mdp: I don't think pressing shift is very error prone, but ymmv :)
Jan 10 20:53:55 <mdp> no need to use two mailers ;) just use mutt
Jan 10 20:54:00 <mdp> simply the clutter in your life
Jan 10 20:54:04 <mdp> simplify
Jan 10 20:54:14 <aholler_> no, I want to click through emails
Jan 10 20:54:28 <alan_o> mdp: does mutt handle imap/
Jan 10 20:54:28 <alan_o> ?
Jan 10 20:54:34 <aholler_> it does
Jan 10 20:54:37 <mdp> alan_o, i use it with imap, yes
Jan 10 20:54:43 <mdp> so I think it handles imap
Jan 10 20:54:45 <alan_o> do you leave it on all the time?
Jan 10 20:55:09 <alan_o> I tried it with imap about a year ago, and it seemed like it downloaded the entire mailbox every time I started it up
Jan 10 20:55:11 <mdp> are you asking if I shut it down to conserve precious power? ;)
Jan 10 20:55:20 <mdp> you have it configured wrong
Jan 10 20:55:31 <mdp> configuring mutt is a work of passion like configuring the kernel
Jan 10 20:55:36 <alan_o> maybe, but I guess that makes it hard to use and error prone :)
Jan 10 20:55:37 <mdp> and requires the same neckbeard
Jan 10 20:55:58 <mdp> ahh, you're confusing ease of quickstart, ease of configuration with ease of use
Jan 10 20:56:11 <mdp> these are separate issues
Jan 10 20:56:33 <mdp> it's like being an i3 user versus Unity
Jan 10 20:56:49 <mdp> YMMV
Jan 10 20:57:45 <alan_o> I might ping you at some point about your mutt config. I'd like to have it set up, but it seemed like it wasn't going to do what I wanted it to do when I tried it before, and I thought most of the docs wanted it to leave imap to procmail. But it's been a while.
Jan 10 20:58:29 <mdp> the biggest thing with imap is you need to enable your header/body caching
Jan 10 20:58:35 <mdp> on mutt
Jan 10 20:58:42 <alan_o> yes, that's what it seemed like it wasn't doing
Jan 10 20:58:53 <mdp> then it starts working like normal-people email clients that do imap ootb
Jan 10 20:59:26 <mdp> and yes, it's infinitely more frustrating than the days of using it with an mbox spool
Jan 10 20:59:46 <mdp> I went mailx->elm->pine->mutt
Jan 10 21:00:26 <mdp> yeah, you could even tolerate opening the lkml box after a few days without caching on ;)
Jan 10 21:00:27 <aholler_> I went mulberry -> tb ;)
Jan 10 21:00:40 <mdp> s/could/couldn't/
Jan 10 21:01:51 <alan_o> I used like pine, but found that the limitations of text-based email were too great. Sure a lot of email looks fine, and you can browse lkml easily, but too many people send garbage html, etc. It seemed like all the time I had to run up a graphical client. I tried to make pine my full time mail client, but failed.
Jan 10 21:03:02 <alan_o> most of my customers use outlook. Some stick little pictures in their signature. That's nice... clutter up the worlds' inboxes....
Jan 10 21:03:44 <mdp> alan_o, with the right .muttrc you can also handle your html and so on and so forth
Jan 10 21:03:48 <alan_o> I wonder if the big mail providers or google have algorithms to hash those pictures and store only one copy.
Jan 10 21:03:48 <dm8tbr> do they also send 9Mbyte word attachment of some sort of architecture descriptions?
Jan 10 21:04:00 <alan_o> dm8tbr: only in pptx format
Jan 10 21:04:11 <aholler_> alan_o: not possible as they are inline
Jan 10 21:04:12 <alan_o> err docx
Jan 10 21:04:32 <mdp> and do it contextually based on your terminal capabilities..such as links when sshed or over the chromefirefox when at the desktop
Jan 10 21:04:44 <alan_o> aholler_: inline sure, but there's still a different section (multipart). the image can be extracted.
Jan 10 21:04:47 <aholler_> what elps is dedupe
Jan 10 21:05:12 <aholler_> everything else might destroy signatures or similiar
Jan 10 21:05:14 <mrpackethead_> beagle powered electroplater coming up
Jan 10 21:05:58 <alan_o> mdp: but "with the right muttrc" is kind like the stuff emacs users say about an editor that's nearly unusable out of the box.
Jan 10 21:06:19 <alan_o> mdp: maybe I just have a bad attitude :)
Jan 10 21:06:30 <bradfa> well crap, now I have a use for device trees...
Jan 10 21:06:52 * bradfa gets ready to put mainline hat on...
Jan 10 21:07:02 <alan_o> mdp: big board for dt? ^^^
Jan 10 21:07:05 <mdp> alan_o, I did mention the learning curve at least implicitly, did I not?
Jan 10 21:07:15 <alan_o> mdp: yeah, no doubt.
Jan 10 21:07:38 <mdp> bradfa, so you can say, "well, actually...devices *do* grow on trees!"
Jan 10 21:08:29 <mdp> alan_o, I'm not saying it's for everybody...but it's yet another powerful tool for insane amounts of email
Jan 10 21:08:39 <alan_o> mdp: Don't get me wrong. I'm not opposed to it. Just when I tried most recently I reached my threshold for how much time I wanted to spend configuring email.
Jan 10 21:08:54 <mdp> I can understand
Jan 10 21:09:07 <alan_o> I'm sure I'll give it a go again. (this conversation is making me think about it)
Jan 10 21:09:11 <mdp> I went through a period of trying to cope with the popular gui clients
Jan 10 21:09:16 <mdp> and they created other problems
Jan 10 21:09:28 <aholler_> those device just never get mature
Jan 10 21:10:11 <aholler_> they fall down before
Jan 10 21:10:31 <alan_o> mdp: yeah, if I didn't have git-send-email and format-patch, I'd have spent more time getting mutt going, no doubt about it.
Jan 10 21:10:36 <mdp> alan_o, I even tried to tame Unity..just for hack value...but eventually had to euthanize it
Jan 10 21:10:41 <NishanthMenon> alan_o, http://www.hastebin.com/yolalukaye.xml is what I use
Jan 10 21:10:46 <NishanthMenon> alan_o, at least for mutt
Jan 10 21:11:27 <alan_o> NishanthMenon: Thanks, I'll check it out
Jan 10 21:11:53 <mdp> alan_o, and then you can point your git aliases at ~/.mutt/aliases
Jan 10 21:12:08 <mdp> when you are in a conversation and need to add somebody cool, like gcl
Jan 10 21:12:25 <mdp> it's difficult to reply to posts with git send-email ;)
Jan 10 21:13:00 <alan_o> mdp: oh, I reply just fine with tbird. no complaints yet, that I remember.
Jan 10 21:13:13 <alan_o> I like the idea of merging aliases
Jan 10 21:13:24 <mdp> NishanthMenon: we really do need to get back to fixing the dts stuff sanely...just wanted to stress that I didn't want to add more to the already large dmaengine series
Jan 10 21:13:34 <alan_o> hmm, I do have header cache turned on it seems. Maybe I had some other problem that I don't remember....
Jan 10 21:13:52 <NishanthMenon> mdp, no problemo.. found an interesting behavior with spi1 though
Jan 10 21:13:53 <NishanthMenon> :D
Jan 10 21:13:53 <mdp> alan_o, you could even make the switch to vim while you are switching to mutt
Jan 10 21:13:58 <mdp> two for one deal
Jan 10 21:14:05 <mdp> uh oh
Jan 10 21:14:05 <alan_o> hehe, not going to happen :)
Jan 10 21:14:08 <mdp> :)
Jan 10 21:14:17 <mdp> extra credit on the big board if you do
Jan 10 21:14:32 <alan_o> temptation might be just too great :)
Jan 10 21:15:01 * wmat is a vim user, but not a mutt user
Jan 10 21:15:03 <mdp> it's best not even to be put into tempting situations, I hear you
Jan 10 21:15:22 <mdp> wmat, half crazy ;)
Jan 10 21:15:29 <wmat> which half?
Jan 10 21:15:30 <aholler_> just use gvim if you don't like vim ;)
Jan 10 21:15:38 <wmat> I love vim
Jan 10 21:15:38 <mdp> wmat, open to interpretation
Jan 10 21:15:41 <wmat> heh
Jan 10 21:15:54 <mdp> vim is the greatest thing since vi
Jan 10 21:16:03 <aholler_> vi was horrible
Jan 10 21:16:22 <wmat> i keep meaning to try life without X
Jan 10 21:16:25 <NishanthMenon> mdp, https://github.com/nmenon/linux-2.6-playground/commit/148c445bfc26a8e86569b60171e3403c201e7498 -> without this hack spi0 would'nt get SDI to detect data (with ti,pindir-d0-out-d1-in)
Jan 10 21:17:16 <NishanthMenon> i suspect offset is wrong in SPRUH73G (oct 2011 - revised nov 2012)
Jan 10 21:17:32 <mdp> yes, the receiver must be on for the sclk pin
Jan 10 21:17:35 <NishanthMenon> probably for d1
Jan 10 21:17:48 <mdp> but wait, wtf is up with cs0?
Jan 10 21:17:50 <NishanthMenon> sclk?
Jan 10 21:18:00 <NishanthMenon> sclk is output
Jan 10 21:18:15 <NishanthMenon> driven off am - 0x1 was showing clk on LA
Jan 10 21:18:27 <alan_o> NishanthMenon: I had to make them all input
Jan 10 21:18:29 <NishanthMenon> i did not root cause further between these two
Jan 10 21:18:50 <NishanthMenon> alan_o, same here - i just went ahead and made them all input
Jan 10 21:18:52 <alan_o> NishanthMenon: "input" just means "enable receiver." It doesn't mean it's an input pin, necessarily
Jan 10 21:18:56 <mdp> NishanthMenon: you turned the receiver on on the sclk pin
Jan 10 21:18:56 <NishanthMenon> input was bidirectional
Jan 10 21:19:19 <mdp> and other people have noted that it's required to be on for MISO to work
Jan 10 21:19:28 <mdp> jackmitchell in particular
Jan 10 21:19:32 <NishanthMenon> interesting
Jan 10 21:19:46 * NishanthMenon needs to go help someone.. brb
Jan 10 21:20:00 <mdp> but I'm concerned about CS0, I don't see why you would ever need 0x30 instead of 0x10 there
Jan 10 21:20:45 <mdp> NishanthMenon: fwiw, I also verified that the receiver needs to be on as jackmitchell said using spidev_test.c and a simple external loopback from d0<->d1
Jan 10 21:20:53 <mdp> without the sclk pin even connected
Jan 10 21:21:03 <mdp> a feature
Jan 10 21:22:28 <alan_o> mdp: the ones you sent me from u-boot a few months ago were 0x3 on the top nibble
Jan 10 21:22:33 <alan_o> for sclk
Jan 10 21:22:42 <alan_o> well, for cs0 too
Jan 10 21:22:57 <alan_o> isn't there something screwy with spi0
Jan 10 21:22:58 <alan_o> ?
Jan 10 21:23:17 <mdp> I verified this case on spi1 too
Jan 10 21:23:22 <mdp> so nothing instance specific
Jan 10 21:23:31 <alan_o> no, not that...
Jan 10 21:23:40 <alan_o> like it's connected to something that's not on the expansion header or something
Jan 10 21:23:46 <mdp> spi0?
Jan 10 21:23:47 <mdp> no
Jan 10 21:23:54 <alan_o> or is that spi2, or am I off-by-one in my head
Jan 10 21:23:55 <mdp> you are thinking of i2c0
Jan 10 21:24:01 <alan_o> oh
Jan 10 21:24:03 <alan_o> nevermind :)
Jan 10 21:25:45 <aholler_> that patch at the playground is kinda confusing
Jan 10 21:26:51 <aholler_> NishanthMenon: you should change the comments too
Jan 10 21:28:01 <mdp> alan_o, spi0/1 are not occupied by The Man
Jan 10 21:29:22 <alan_o> That's right, he only eats i2c.
Jan 10 21:30:58 <mdp> you could leave the Occupy I2C0 movement
Jan 10 21:31:10 <mdp> s/leave/lead, even
Jan 10 21:31:41 <aholler_> hid over i2c is the new star
Jan 10 21:32:08 <aholler_> just to keep it simple ;)
Jan 10 21:45:05 <mdp> aholler_: you have a new star every day ;)
Jan 10 21:45:25 <aholler_> ever changing world ;)
Jan 10 21:45:43 <aholler_> especially on the sw front
Jan 10 21:46:16 <aholler_> you take a nap, another language is required by recruiters ;)
Jan 10 21:46:38 <mdp> you had me at "nap"
Jan 10 21:47:52 <aholler_> enter the cloud ;)
Jan 10 21:49:46 <aholler_> I've just learned html5 ;)
Jan 10 21:49:59 <aholler_> "learned"
Jan 10 21:51:43 <thurbad> what on the internet isn't cloud based... I mean really?
Jan 10 21:51:50 <NishanthMenon> mdp, i have been playing with https://github.com/nmenon/linux-2.6-playground/blob/devel/beaglebone/base/drivers/hwmon/ads79xx.c
Jan 10 21:51:51 <s5fs> ugh, beagle boots but won't let me log in, haha! fantastico!
Jan 10 21:52:11 <NishanthMenon> aholler_, yes, I need to cleanup my patch series.. not too nice atm
Jan 10 21:52:13 <s5fs> all i did was build/install net-snmp, i swear
Jan 10 21:52:17 <djlewis> offer it a bisquit
Jan 10 21:52:31 <s5fs> djlewis: all i have is brittle
Jan 10 21:52:54 <aholler_> init=/bin/sh
Jan 10 22:01:59 <s5fs> aholler_: where do i shove that, uEnv.txt? i am noob.
Jan 10 22:02:35 <aholler_> optargs=init=/bin/sh
Jan 10 22:02:49 <aholler_> assuming there is an sh in /bin
Jan 10 22:03:51 <s5fs> aholler_: yeah, i can find the path to a shell, i'm just uncertain how this sytem starts up. too long since i've used anything but grub.
Jan 10 22:12:53 <s5fs> aholler_: thanks, that got me closer but it's still borked, haha! i'll look into it more tomm but i do appreciate your help.
Jan 10 22:17:56 <mrpackethead_> does anyone want to offer some thoughts on best ways to generate PWM signals ( about 10kHz ) or so, from a beagle?
Jan 10 22:18:16 <robclark> bitbang!
Jan 10 22:18:19 * robclark hides
Jan 10 22:18:39 <mrpackethead_> if its coming out of the PRU thats not all bad
Jan 10 22:21:01 <mranostay> hi prpplague
Jan 10 22:21:55 <prpplague> hey
Jan 10 22:21:58 <NishanthMenon> mrpackethead_, drivers/pwm/pwm-twl.c
Jan 10 22:22:11 * prpplague waits for taxi
Jan 10 22:22:41 <woglinde> prpplague all went well?
Jan 10 22:25:53 <prpplague> seems so
Jan 10 22:26:09 <prpplague> i froze on the coding stuff again
Jan 10 22:26:22 <prpplague> gotta work on that
Jan 10 22:26:56 <prpplague> maybe get robclark to heckle me while i write linked list code
Jan 10 22:28:09 * robclark will heckle prpplague for free :-P
Jan 10 22:28:41 <NishanthMenon> list->next = list->head = NULL
Jan 10 22:28:50 <mdp> prpplague: any chance you met roy reichwein there?
Jan 10 22:30:23 <prpplague> negative
Jan 10 22:31:06 <mdp> ok, engr mgr there that I used to work for at mvista many moons ago
Jan 10 22:32:32 <mdp> well, he's the kernel manager there to be exact
Jan 10 22:32:53 <mranostay> i'll heckle prpplague anyday and anytime :)
Jan 10 22:33:04 <prpplague> well even if i dont get an offer it was a damm good experience
Jan 10 22:33:33 <mdp> prpplague: lots of good folks there...they were a good people to work with as a client too
Jan 10 22:33:41 <mdp> you'll get an offer
Jan 10 22:33:51 <mdp> did you remember to mention that you are a rockstar?
Jan 10 22:34:56 <Russ> and a famous irc person/
Jan 10 22:34:57 <Russ> ?
Jan 10 22:35:41 <mdp> "did I mention that I'm an expert at punctuation rules? Some people are not!"
Jan 10 22:36:06 <mdp> lab126 is huge on punctuation !?!?!?!?!?!
Jan 10 22:36:19 <mdp> .
Jan 10 22:36:20 <prpplague> no but i passed along my wife's mmessage of: fear the plague
Jan 10 22:36:26 <mdp> lol
Jan 10 22:36:27 <mdp> nice
Jan 10 22:36:31 <mranostay> Russ: hey that is my title :P
Jan 10 22:36:33 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 10 22:36:52 <mdp> prpplague: hopefully not, "hey if you hire me I will commit to spreading the plague here"
Jan 10 22:36:57 <mdp> that could be confused
Jan 10 22:37:09 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 10 22:37:31 <mdp> prpplague: and don't forget the, "and btw, I'm looking for a 10000% cost of living increase too for this area"
Jan 10 22:39:15 <prpplague> ha
Jan 10 22:39:17 <mdp> prpplague: something in the $7M range right off university ave in palo alto
Jan 10 22:39:19 <Russ> mdp, what are you talking about, that's one of the chief advantages of hiring someone from outside of the bay area
Jan 10 22:39:29 <mdp> Russ, +1
Jan 10 22:39:46 <prpplague> does this offer include relocation expenses for my gun safe?
Jan 10 22:40:22 <mdp> prpplague: you are talking about relocating to the wrong state to even have that in the negotiations ;)
Jan 10 22:40:34 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 10 22:40:55 <mdp> you'd probably get a mark in your "permanent file" for such a vile question
Jan 10 22:41:50 <mranostay> mdp: being a boy scout i bet your's is 1/4 a page :)
Jan 10 22:42:40 <mranostay> grr why would dropbear not work with a vanilla ssh client?
Jan 10 22:51:17 <mdp> mranostay, 0 pages
Jan 10 22:58:23 <mranostay> mdp: not negative pages?
Jan 10 22:58:40 <mdp> alan_o probably has 0 pages too
Jan 10 23:04:40 <alan_o> hehe
Jan 10 23:06:12 <mranostay> TIL LA (the state) has drive thru daiquiris places
Jan 10 23:07:30 <prpplague> ok checked in at airport.... bar located....
Jan 10 23:07:45 <s5fs> mranostay: i've heard montana has drive-thru liquor stores, and germany has drive-up brothels. convenience abound!
Jan 10 23:08:59 <mdp> you'll have to pry my drive-through microbrew store from my cold dead hands
Jan 10 23:09:03 <mdp> s/store/stores/
Jan 10 23:09:33 <s5fs> plural? dang.
Jan 10 23:09:56 <s5fs> i'm out in portland oregon, we've got plenty of excellent microbrew
Jan 10 23:10:26 <mdp> we have 3 in the town I live outside of...15 years ago they would only have budweiser and schlitz I suppose
Jan 10 23:10:36 <mdp> but we live in wonderful times
Jan 10 23:11:02 <mranostay> yeah but tha usually isn't open for you :)
Jan 10 23:11:09 <mranostay> s5fs: drive up brothels?
Jan 10 23:11:30 <s5fs> mranostay: so i hear. never been to germany, can't confirm.
Jan 10 23:11:34 <mdp> mranostay, pretty much everybody will order whatever you want..so I just provide a list of things they don't carry
Jan 10 23:13:25 <prpplague> sjc is  a pretty small airport
Jan 10 23:13:31 <prpplague> but nice
Jan 10 23:17:23 <mdp> prpplague: I miss being able to pop up there from phx
Jan 10 23:18:57 <prpplague> mdp your parole officer wont let you leave the county any more?
Jan 10 23:19:22 <mdp> I miss the short flight to the "center of the universe"
Jan 10 23:19:39 <mdp> it was convenient if I had to make it a day trip
Jan 10 23:20:43 <mdp> prpplague: and yeah, I do need to check with the parole officer, now that you mention it.
Jan 10 23:21:17 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 10 23:22:24 <sh1v> hey guys, does anybody know how to disable the "ethernet gadget" on the beaglebone
Jan 10 23:22:36 <sh1v> ive tried blacklisting g_ether to no avail
Jan 10 23:25:13 <alan_o> doesn't some bit of systemd turn that on/off?
Jan 10 23:25:32 <sh1v> ve combed thru it and haven't seen anything
Jan 10 23:27:02 <alan_o> hmm, feels like I've looked for this before...
Jan 10 23:27:39 <sh1v> yeh, if you can point me in the right direction, would really appreciate it
Jan 10 23:27:44 <sh1v> this thing is driving me nuts haha
Jan 10 23:27:46 <alan_o> I'm looking
Jan 10 23:27:55 <sh1v> thanks dood
Jan 10 23:27:59 <alan_o> one thing you could do is just delete the module :-D
Jan 10 23:28:20 <sh1v> is it supposed to be in /lib/modules?
Jan 10 23:28:30 <alan_o> The module is in there
Jan 10 23:28:37 <alan_o> /lib/modules
Jan 10 23:29:08 <sh1v> Im running ubuntu on 3.2.18-psp14 and I'm not seeing it
Jan 10 23:29:17 <sh1v> is it called g_ether?
Jan 10 23:29:20 <alan_o> oh, ubuntu
Jan 10 23:29:30 <alan_o> g_ether can be built into the kernel
Jan 10 23:30:00 <sh1v> would modprobe -l show it?
Jan 10 23:30:03 <sh1v> modprobe -l | grep g_ether
Jan 10 23:30:06 <sh1v> comes up with nothing
Jan 10 23:30:21 <alan_o> so the angstrom image has this thing where it uses g_mass_storage (or whatever it's called) and when you eject it, it then unloads g_mass_storage loads g_ether instead
Jan 10 23:31:41 <alan_o> yeah, so it's probably built-in then
Jan 10 23:32:11 <sh1v> any idea what the kernel param is?
Jan 10 23:32:27 <alan_o> which param?
Jan 10 23:32:32 <sh1v> for g_Ether
Jan 10 23:32:32 <alan_o> to configure g_ether?
Jan 10 23:32:38 <alan_o> There are a few
Jan 10 23:32:41 <alan_o> they stare with g_ether
Jan 10 23:32:44 <alan_o> are you looking for a list/
Jan 10 23:32:44 <alan_o> ?
Jan 10 23:32:56 <alan_o> if you cat /proc/cmdline, you'll see the params
Jan 10 23:33:32 <sh1v> yeh, I'm looking at my kernel config now, was just wondering if you knew what turns on g_ether
Jan 10 23:33:49 <sh1v> searching for "ETHER" I only see CONFIG_ETHERNET
Jan 10 23:33:49 <alan_o> kernel config?
Jan 10 23:33:52 <alan_o> oh
Jan 10 23:33:59 <alan_o> that's not the command line
Jan 10 23:34:07 <alan_o> ok, in menuconfig... let me look
Jan 10 23:34:47 <sh1v> oooh, is /proc/cmdline the kernel params passed at aboot?
Jan 10 23:34:55 <alan_o> yes
Jan 10 23:34:55 <sh1v> console=ttyO0,115200n8 VIDEO_DISPLAY root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro rootfstype=ext4 rootwait fixrtc ip=none
Jan 10 23:35:06 <alan_o> nothing ether-related in there
Jan 10 23:35:21 <sh1v> I wonder what that "ip" business is though
Jan 10 23:35:48 <sh1v> how do I find out what the allowable options are?
Jan 10 23:36:24 <alan_o> CONFIG_USB_ETH
Jan 10 23:36:51 <alan_o> lots more gadgets recently
Jan 10 23:37:45 <mdp> there's a cloud gadget
Jan 10 23:37:47 <sh1v> ugh, so in order to disable this, I guess id neeed to recompile
Jan 10 23:37:49 <sh1v> ugh....
Jan 10 23:38:09 <sh1v> good thing 1000 of these images have already been burned D:
Jan 10 23:38:17 <alan_o> shiv, why do you need it disabled?
Jan 10 23:38:46 <alan_o> I mean I know that's an annoying question, which is why I haven't asked yet, but sometimes stuff can be worked around....
Jan 10 23:39:01 <sh1v> its more of an annoyance than anything-- when you boot with the serial line plugged in, it hangs waiting for an IP address
Jan 10 23:39:17 <sh1v> and anytime you plug in, a new device appears on my machine
Jan 10 23:39:32 <alan_o> ok, boot time. Fair enough. Can you set up usb0 to be static ip, or to be disabled at boot?
Jan 10 23:39:33 <sh1v> i literally have like 40 of these stupid "ethernet gadget" devices in my network config:|
Jan 10 23:39:39 <alan_o> oh
Jan 10 23:39:42 <alan_o> you mean on the host PC
Jan 10 23:39:47 <sh1v> yeh
Jan 10 23:39:47 <alan_o> oh, this is bone
Jan 10 23:39:49 <alan_o> ok
Jan 10 23:39:54 <sh1v> thats right
Jan 10 23:40:08 <sh1v> so, yeah, a static ip, or better yet disabled would be amazing
Jan 10 23:40:21 <sh1v> which is why im wondering what's allowed for that "ip" kernel param
Jan 10 23:40:32 <alan_o> yeah, let me get you a command line...
Jan 10 23:40:41 <sh1v> man, you are awesome, thank you so much
Jan 10 23:40:48 <mdp> sh1v, did you read the ip= docs?
Jan 10 23:40:59 <sh1v> not sure where to find them
Jan 10 23:41:07 <alan_o> ip=192.168.2.124 g_ether.host_addr=36:97:13:EC:31:BD
Jan 10 23:41:07 <sh1v> otherwise I'd be glad to
Jan 10 23:41:21 <alan_o> keep ip as none, I guess.
Jan 10 23:41:33 <alan_o> but the host_addr will make it so it only shows up once.
Jan 10 23:41:40 <sh1v> ahh, I see
Jan 10 23:41:48 <sh1v> fantastic
Jan 10 23:41:58 <alan_o> that's kind of a half solution
Jan 10 23:42:00 <sh1v> needs to be a g_ether.fuckoff=true
Jan 10 23:42:09 <alan_o> I'm looking for taht one....
Jan 10 23:42:14 <mdp> sh1v: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/nfsroot.txt
Jan 10 23:42:29 <alan_o> I wonder fi there's a way to disable drivers from the cmd line
Jan 10 23:42:41 <sh1v> looks like theres a ip=off
Jan 10 23:42:44 <sh1v> according to mdp's doco
Jan 10 23:42:59 * mranostay eyes alan_o 
Jan 10 23:43:33 <alan_o> I mean the kernel command line
Jan 10 23:43:45 <sh1v> yeah, that's what im talking about too
Jan 10 23:45:17 <wmat> mranostay: stop stalking me on LinkedIn ;)
Jan 10 23:45:24 <mdp> lol
Jan 10 23:45:40 <mdp> wmat, he gets that a lot at the coffee shops too
Jan 10 23:45:45 <mdp> "Sir, quit stalking me!"
Jan 10 23:45:50 <wmat> heh
Jan 10 23:45:55 <alan_o> sh1v: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
Jan 10 23:45:57 <mranostay> wmat: ah one of the those circular view things :)
Jan 10 23:46:15 <alan_o> sh1v: I'm looking through that...
Jan 10 23:46:16 <sh1v> thanks man
Jan 10 23:46:21 <mranostay> i believe alan_o is stalking me too
Jan 10 23:46:22 <wmat> mranostay: i know, just couldn't resist nagging you
Jan 10 23:46:40 <mdp> alan_o, nfsroot.txt contains the full details of all the ipconfig related params
Jan 10 23:46:46 <sh1v> is it safe to edit /proc/cmdline directly?
Jan 10 23:46:49 <wmat> I keep meaning to update LinkedIn with a troll picture
Jan 10 23:47:16 <alan_o> mranostay: I've been to yours a few times. There's stuff I can never remember, but I haven't been there in a couple months. Do I still show on your list? I'm interested because I'd like to know how much they lie about it :)
Jan 10 23:47:45 <wmat> mranostay: at first glance of your LIn picture, I thought you were sitting in a bathtub
Jan 10 23:47:52 <alan_o> sh1v: I don't think it will let you.
Jan 10 23:48:05 <sh1v> how do I go about it?
Jan 10 23:48:08 <alan_o> wmat: in a bathtub with Linus :)
Jan 10 23:48:22 <sh1v> stupid question, I know
Jan 10 23:48:25 <wmat> alan_o: I just assumed he'd photoshopped him in :/
Jan 10 23:48:26 <alan_o> sh1v: you mean at boot time?
Jan 10 23:48:41 <wmat> like prpplague does with spock
Jan 10 23:48:46 <alan_o> wmat: more like photobombed
Jan 10 23:49:06 <sh1v> alan_o: I guess?
Jan 10 23:49:18 <sh1v> would like for it to be a permanent change
Jan 10 23:49:23 <alan_o> wmat: There was an even better picture where mranostay had almost a surprised look on his face.
Jan 10 23:50:09 <alan_o> mranostay: now that I think about it, I probably have been "stalking" you, showing that profile pic to others.
Jan 10 23:50:29 * wmat needs a better pic for these online thingies
Jan 10 23:50:41 <alan_o> shiv, yeah that's going to be in the bootloader
Jan 10 23:50:49 <alan_o> is there a bootloader file like a uEnv.txt or something?
Jan 10 23:50:56 <alan_o> you'll have to make sure you load the right one
Jan 10 23:51:05 <alan_o> s/load/edit/
Jan 10 23:52:12 <sh1v> yeah, I see a file /boot/uEnv.txt but it doesnt mention the ip param o_O
Jan 10 23:52:23 <sh1v> I'll do some homework and work this out
Jan 10 23:52:27 <sh1v> thanks for your help man
Jan 10 23:52:32 <alan_o> sh1v: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_modules#Using_kernel_command_line_2
Jan 10 23:52:34 <alan_o> ding ding
Jan 10 23:52:49 * mdp chalks up another alan_o success on the big board
Jan 10 23:52:58 <alan_o> :)
Jan 10 23:53:21 <alan_o> might have to take that down.... I'm not 100% sure that the solution I linked will work for built-in drivers, now that I think a little more about it.
Jan 10 23:53:29 <alan_o> oh
Jan 10 23:53:30 <alan_o> wel
Jan 10 23:53:51 <alan_o> sh1v: yeah, you can still do the "half sollution" of doing the ip and hw_addr that way
Jan 10 23:54:20 <alan_o> sh1v: on angstrom, may also be in ubuntu I don't know, there are multiple copies of that file, and some are useless
Jan 10 23:54:51 <sh1v> well, in the docs, there is an ip=off option, I'm hoping that does it
Jan 10 23:54:53 <sh1v> :)
Jan 10 23:55:07 <alan_o> ok, let us know
Jan 10 23:55:09 <sh1v> if not, your soln will get me 80% there
Jan 10 23:55:11 <sh1v> cheers
Jan 11 00:00:12 <aholler_> just use module.option=foo
Jan 11 00:01:02 <sh1v> aholler_ pardon?
Jan 11 00:02:02 <sh1v> *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment
Jan 11 00:02:12 <sh1v> from uboot o_O
Jan 11 00:02:34 <alan_o> sh1v: yeah, it does that
Jan 11 00:03:12 <sh1v> haha what a bastard thing
Jan 11 00:03:25 <aholler_> sh1v: find out the name and options of the module and add the above to optargs in uEnv.txt
Jan 11 00:04:11 <aholler_> check for g_multi or similiar
Jan 11 00:04:57 <aholler_> less Documentation/usb/gadget_multi.txt
Jan 11 00:07:46 <aholler_> the new tabletplague ;)
Jan 11 00:08:07 <mranostay> is it me or is it purple in here?
Jan 11 00:08:12 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 11 00:08:20 <prpplague> mranostay: let your eyes burn with that one
Jan 11 00:11:19 <sh1v> so, I'm confused-- this doc doesn't tell me anything about parameters
Jan 11 00:12:16 <prpplague> sh1v: i had the same problem trying to read the doc on dating
Jan 11 00:13:15 <sh1v> hilarious
Jan 11 00:16:15 <mranostay> prpplague: have cash and everything magically goes away :)
Jan 11 00:17:12 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 11 00:33:00 <s5fs> mranostay: weird, i got a girlfriend and now cash magically goes away :/
Jan 11 00:38:41 <prpplague> ho ho hum
Jan 11 00:38:46 <prpplague> i wish i could have gotten an earlier flight
Jan 11 00:39:58 <prpplague> mdp: pure genius - http://hackaday.com/2013/01/10/one-button-scan-to-email-using-raspberry-pi/
Jan 11 00:40:28 <W1N9Zr0> i wonder what the little envelope button on the scanner does
Jan 11 00:41:52 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 11 00:43:29 <alan_o> prpplague: you _know_ you want one :)
Jan 11 00:44:37 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 11 00:46:34 <mranostay> "And there’s always the possibility of connecting a printer to the other USB port on the RPi to make it work as a photocopier too."
Jan 11 00:46:46 <mranostay> a $100 HP all-in-one not good enough? :)
Jan 11 00:47:03 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 11 00:47:08 <s5fs> mranostay: you hear about the patent troll suing individuals for using machines that scan-to-email?
Jan 11 00:48:09 <s5fs> link, http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/01/patent-trolls-want-1000-for-using-scanners/
Jan 11 00:48:49 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 11 00:49:00 * prpplague reports the RPi users
Jan 11 00:49:42 <mranostay> prpplague: there should be map of all legal rpi owners :)
Jan 11 00:49:44 <XorA> yo prpplague
Jan 11 00:49:57 <prpplague> XorA: hey bud
Jan 11 00:50:00 <prpplague> XorA: where you at?
Jan 11 00:50:02 <prpplague> mranostay: indeed
Jan 11 00:50:14 <prpplague> mranostay: and they should have background checks
Jan 11 00:50:17 <XorA> prpplague: corner of Stephens Creek and De Anze
Jan 11 00:50:24 <prpplague> wtf?
Jan 11 00:50:24 <s5fs> haha, whats with the rpi hate? just curious
Jan 11 00:50:33 <XorA> prpplague: oposite corner than Lab126
Jan 11 00:50:38 <prpplague> XorA: you have got to be joking!
Jan 11 00:50:49 <XorA> prpplague: nope
Jan 11 00:50:56 <XorA> prpplague: I have a desk in Lab126
Jan 11 00:51:05 <prpplague> HA
Jan 11 00:51:29 <prpplague> i would have laughed so hard if you'd walked in this morning
Jan 11 00:51:48 <XorA> depends which of the 3 buildings you were in
Jan 11 00:52:48 <prpplague> 20450
Jan 11 00:55:54 <mranostay> Crofton!
Jan 11 00:57:59 <XorA> yo Crofton
Jan 11 00:58:35 <prpplague> i don't know how Crofton gets any work done with all the conferences and beer drinking going on
Jan 11 00:59:55 <wmat> he gets work done?
Jan 11 01:00:09 <wmat> prpplague: you done the int. already?
Jan 11 01:02:25 <prpplague> wmat: yea, my interview tomorrow was canceled so i am heading back
Jan 11 01:02:40 <wmat> bummer
Jan 11 01:02:55 <wmat> that's kind of cold assuming they knew you flew in
Jan 11 01:03:46 <prpplague> i was here for two others
Jan 11 01:04:15 <wmat> that's good
Jan 11 01:04:33 <wmat> flying back today?
Jan 11 01:04:49 <prpplague> yea at the airport now
Jan 11 01:05:01 <wmat> cool
Jan 11 01:05:03 <wmat> home is better
Jan 11 01:07:37 <mrpackethead_> https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397770_10151348122372661_1270273120_n.jpg
Jan 11 01:08:08 <mrpackethead_> i am wondering if anyone else considers it over the top to control this device with a beaglebone.
Jan 11 01:08:26 <s5fs> much better to use a rpi
Jan 11 01:08:31 * s5fs ducks
Jan 11 01:09:31 <mrpackethead_> i just need to create some PWM signals to drive those fets
Jan 11 01:10:59 <prpplague> mrpackethead_: you can bitbang that
Jan 11 01:11:11 <mrpackethead_> i might.
Jan 11 01:11:45 <mrpackethead_> but for the purpose of learning
Jan 11 01:11:50 <mrpackethead_> i am goign to use the PRU
Jan 11 02:01:10 <alan_o> ugh
Jan 11 02:01:21 <alan_o> something in here just started making a really high-pitched noise. I hate that
Jan 11 02:21:58 <joel__> Wondering how this works- does GDB use DWARF to figure out what variable names correspond to addresses/offsets on the stackframe?
Jan 11 02:24:01 <prpplague> no only elves
Jan 11 02:27:01 <joel__> haha
Jan 11 02:27:06 <joel__> ELF you mean
Jan 11 02:28:26 <joel__> prpplague: unless you were joking, I went through the ELF stamdard and I didn't find that kind of symbolic information represented anywhere/in any table
Jan 11 02:38:37 <prpplague> joel_ of course you didnt seem them, they had a ring...
Jan 11 02:41:54 <prpplague> b a t t e r y g o  i n g.  . . . .
Jan 11 02:50:28 <alan_o> joel__: DWARF sounds familiar. There's also something called STABS. That might be windows.
Jan 11 02:54:05 <prpplague> mranostay: i think the next beagle should be a beagle-theta
Jan 11 02:54:54 <alan_o> prpplague: found some 110 power ?
Jan 11 02:55:24 <prpplague> alan_o: yea
Jan 11 02:55:25 * alan_o notes that the term "110 power" should annoy electrical engineers, the same way the term "amperage" should.
Jan 11 02:55:40 <prpplague> alan_o: my return flight is on alaskan airline of all things
Jan 11 02:55:48 <alan_o> nice
Jan 11 02:55:58 <alan_o> My friends use them to fly to Seattle
Jan 11 02:56:03 <alan_o> (from Orlando)
Jan 11 02:56:22 <prpplague> alan_o: the ticket agents were not amused when i said "so i have never flown alaskan, but i hear they serve champaign and lobster in coach, is that correct?"
Jan 11 02:56:52 <alan_o> and they said, "right this way, sir, and you're going to need to calm down"
Jan 11 02:57:31 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 11 02:57:35 * mranostay zaps alan_o with a car battery
Jan 11 02:58:58 <prpplague> holy cow! i have found a RPi product that is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 11 02:59:01 <prpplague> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/01/09/mart-potty-to-extra-loud-headphones-wacky-gadgets-solve-problems-didnt-know/?intcmp=features
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