**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 15 02:59:58 2013 Jan 15 03:05:56 mranostay: just finished Jan 15 03:32:13 prpplague : how many hours go into review+planning? Jan 15 03:33:22 CareBear\: LF takes of most of the hardcore stuff, the program committee is more about content Jan 15 04:51:19 so awkward watching your presentation on video Jan 15 05:57:19 grezi Jan 15 05:58:32 oh hi KotH Jan 15 05:58:46 KotH: were you in my talk i can't remember Jan 15 05:59:31 nope, i wasnt... you competed against a talk on device tree :) Jan 15 05:59:59 why do you ask? Jan 15 06:00:10 just wondering Jan 15 06:02:06 why do you wonder, then? Jan 15 06:03:30 KotH: geez just wondering :) Jan 15 06:04:00 :-) Jan 15 06:04:36 dammit i forgot mru trolled me in my talk Jan 15 06:04:38 :) Jan 15 06:08:45 mranostay in fullHD: http://free-electrons.com/pub/video/2012/elce/elce-2012-ranostay-beaglebone-telemetry.webm Jan 15 06:09:02 mranostay: hint, hands out of pockets next time Jan 15 06:10:16 yes yes i know :) Jan 15 06:14:40 av500: i've could have done a lot worse for a first conference talk i'm sure Jan 15 06:14:59 well, not having pant pockets at all would have been worse Jan 15 06:15:16 * mranostay kicks av500 Jan 15 06:15:36 * av500 shrugs Jan 15 06:15:54 av500: they even make those? :) Jan 15 06:17:10 av500: coming to ELC? Jan 15 06:17:16 no idea Jan 15 06:17:23 got spare cash? Jan 15 06:19:13 av500: i could give you one of my spare chocolate bars Jan 15 06:19:20 +1 Jan 15 06:20:06 i can buy you a american beer does that help? Jan 15 06:20:36 mranostay: totally Jan 15 06:20:48 I could smuggle real beer into the US Jan 15 06:20:53 that might help more Jan 15 06:20:59 heh Jan 15 06:21:05 <-- doesn't drink shit Jan 15 06:21:35 i had Bud Light i have to admit but is house parties.. Jan 15 06:24:12 good moaning Jan 15 06:24:26 dammit dm8tbr is here Jan 15 06:24:29 :) Jan 15 06:25:50 * mranostay pokes Russ Jan 15 06:28:07 * mranostay pokes Russ with mru-stick Jan 15 06:31:17 yes? Jan 15 06:31:35 sorry, been trying to fix the wife's computer Jan 15 06:32:59 Russ: considered the Linux rebellion= Jan 15 06:33:01 Russ: considered the Linux rebellion? Jan 15 06:33:11 doesn't match well with vet school Jan 15 06:35:36 well, you know, Microsoft can always be prevented with more Microsoft Jan 15 06:35:46 * Russ https://plus.google.com/107046448275336404830/posts/hhUr1Aq94PR Jan 15 06:55:19 av500: going to stay at the confernce hotel? Jan 15 06:56:56 and Russ Jan 15 06:58:37 * dm8tbr needs to start booking this stuff... Jan 15 06:58:49 mranostay: no idea Jan 15 07:00:33 saves his email to his boss for tomorrow Jan 15 07:00:59 thinly veiled if you guys don't let him off for this i will quit :) Jan 15 07:01:20 *me Jan 15 07:03:35 mranostay: here is your $30 weeks pay Jan 15 07:04:12 on california standards i'm poor Jan 15 07:04:37 had a few interview since ELCE :) Jan 15 07:40:56 koen: where is the CFP site? Jan 15 07:42:18 http://events.linuxfoundation.org/ Jan 15 07:42:27 panto: hey i have to deal with you? Jan 15 07:42:32 howdy Jan 15 07:42:33 in the states even? Jan 15 07:42:46 ph34r me Jan 15 07:43:57 arf, if I only knew my login :( Jan 15 07:44:30 lol Jan 15 07:45:01 ha, got it Jan 15 07:45:47 troll-tours-NA imminent? Jan 15 07:55:37 heh Jan 15 07:55:52 mranostay: build a job-cape Jan 15 07:56:21 hehe Jan 15 07:56:44 mranostay: or write a sign, will PRU for food Jan 15 07:57:11 heh i should still my ELC whiteboard shirt from last year Jan 15 07:57:15 *have Jan 15 07:57:26 * mranostay checks Jan 15 07:57:57 floppy! Jan 15 07:58:04 POIDNH Jan 15 08:01:04 av500: there Jan 15 08:04:09 ...handwriting... Jan 15 08:04:22 I read "will perv for food" Jan 15 08:04:46 don't go into castro with that ;) Jan 15 08:05:34 * mranostay smacks av500 Jan 15 08:10:26 panto: you going to let him talk to me that way? :) Jan 15 08:12:39 mranostay: serbs and greeks are always buddies Jan 15 08:14:16 really? Jan 15 08:20:27 mranostay, yes Jan 15 08:20:32 av500, go on Jan 15 08:20:53 KotH: help me ! :) Jan 15 08:22:05 mranostay: yes, turks are your allies Jan 15 08:22:21 er good point Jan 15 08:22:37 * mranostay fires one of his guns wildly in the air Jan 15 08:22:38 mranostay: I'll do my best ;) Jan 15 08:22:52 * av500 just ordered a webcam Jan 15 08:23:23 Operating Temperature: –40 to 70° C (-40 to 158° F) Jan 15 08:24:02 heh that seems uncomfortable :) Jan 15 08:24:08 sleepy time Jan 15 08:24:34 * mranostay curses panto for breaking stuff on his way out Jan 15 08:25:30 * KotH calls for a JIHAD against mranostay Jan 15 08:25:42 +1 Jan 15 08:26:13 av500: apropos temp ranges: do you know an sd card that is spec'ed down to -40C? Jan 15 08:26:17 hehe Jan 15 08:26:22 av500: i could need one :) Jan 15 08:26:29 KotH: no idea Jan 15 08:26:32 do the bits freeze? Jan 15 08:26:36 KotH, no idea either Jan 15 08:26:44 av500: also sd card holders would be apreciated ^^' Jan 15 08:26:54 sd cards look like consumer tech to me Jan 15 08:27:01 (yes, it's one of those wierd projects again) Jan 15 08:27:12 I know there must be nand chips that have that range (industrial or mil spec) Jan 15 08:27:12 use nand! Jan 15 08:27:17 http://www.atpinc.com/p2-4a.php?sn=00000395 Jan 15 08:27:29 KotH: there is this site Jan 15 08:27:39 two guys from a university built it Jan 15 08:27:45 it like crawls the web Jan 15 08:28:17 av500, I'll have to google about it Jan 15 08:28:19 http://www.delkinoem.com/secure-digital-industrial.html Jan 15 08:28:31 http://www.psism.com/industrialsd.htm Jan 15 08:29:59 av500: domo Jan 15 08:30:08 thank larry and sergey Jan 15 08:30:22 * KotH thanks sergey, the quote from larry is still pending Jan 15 08:31:28 been to see the hobbit, in 48fps, 3D with the flash Sound.. Jan 15 08:31:33 was amazing Jan 15 08:36:58 flash sound? Jan 15 08:37:12 blitzfleischtiblitzblitz Jan 15 08:37:33 av500: don't you remember marcocello's "willhelm tell"? Jan 15 08:47:31 mranostay, parc 55 is great, I've stayed there a couple times Jan 15 08:51:44 sound was very very good Jan 15 12:12:23 av500: your g+-icon is in line with what IBM predicts as the upcoming trend: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/15/ibm_steampunk_sentiment_analysis/ Jan 15 12:13:28 s/your/your old/ Jan 15 12:14:14 that cat is imho ugly ;) Jan 15 12:28:50 and that bejing photo really looks like the blade runner isn't fiction anymore Jan 15 12:39:29 aholler: the robot? Jan 15 12:39:33 yes, I dont like the cat Jan 15 12:39:35 need to change Jan 15 12:39:42 the robot was great Jan 15 13:59:44 * koen pokes jkridner1 for mm# Jan 15 14:13:36 again, time for snow.sh: http://dpaste.de/PScV5/ ;) Jan 15 14:16:13 _roger_: pico? Jan 15 14:24:29 hmm, snow.sh gets outdated, it isn't /usr unificated Jan 15 14:26:11 aholler: you should write a systemd module for it Jan 15 14:26:18 and a device tree binding Jan 15 14:26:27 I wonder how long /bin/foo shebangs will still work Jan 15 14:26:51 ?? Jan 15 14:26:53 why? Jan 15 14:27:14 [aholler@krabat ~]$ ls -ld /bin Jan 15 14:27:14 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 22. Sep 18:51 /bin -> usr/bin Jan 15 14:28:06 maybe I missed the beginning of this conversation..... Jan 15 14:31:50 aholler: I wish I had time for stuff like this :p Jan 15 14:32:25 ynezz: it's now some years old, so such stuff lasts some time. ;) Jan 15 14:35:57 and there should be always time for creative stuff, otherwise you will likely burn out Jan 15 14:37:41 whatever one judges as creative. ;) Jan 15 14:42:21 knitting Jan 15 14:46:06 shrubbery sculptures Jan 15 14:47:07 lego ;) Jan 15 14:47:50 or even capes Jan 15 14:48:15 mdp: +1 Jan 15 14:48:36 knitting shrubbery lego capes Jan 15 14:49:25 I think I've seen such (-capes) at your g+ Jan 15 14:49:41 I've got an app that shares your progress when knitting shrubbery lego capes Jan 15 14:49:52 it's a pretty cool community. Jan 15 14:50:11 you need one of those connected knitting needles and shrubbery shears Jan 15 14:50:22 after that, it's all in the cloud Jan 15 14:51:38 yes, but then the commercial companies come and rip you off and dont give back to the community!!! Jan 15 14:51:56 they sell shrubcapprinters for 3x the price Jan 15 14:52:24 they totally hate on the Maker community....hateses them! Jan 15 14:52:52 I only meet with fellow shrubbists in underground locations! Jan 15 14:53:23 and all our stuff is like triple ROT13 encoded Jan 15 14:55:45 is Roger the Shrubber part of your community? Jan 15 14:56:13 I cannot say Jan 15 14:56:32 but he sure has a nice needle hand Jan 15 14:56:42 scissor hand? Jan 15 14:57:50 really we are a tight knit community Jan 15 14:58:37 aholler: you use my g+ without giving back to the community!!! Jan 15 14:59:10 looks like BeagleBot is back up Jan 15 14:59:28 I don't distribute stolen stuff Jan 15 15:03:42 emeb_mac: aye, Roger is a good man...at least he will call out foul ruffians when he sees them. Jan 15 15:04:16 koen: thanks for sending the link again Jan 15 15:05:09 mdp: passing ruffians who say "Ni"? Jan 15 15:05:18 emeb_mac: indeed Jan 15 15:06:16 emeb_mac: although the economy has hit him hard and he had to close his shop where he arranges, designs, and sells shrubberies. Jan 15 15:07:12 mdp: these are sad times. Jan 15 15:08:31 a visit to the castle anthrax will cheer us up, no doubt. Jan 15 15:10:55 there it is: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.402669589802642.92956.138059056263698&type=1 Jan 15 15:11:32 oh that Jan 15 15:12:14 mpd: it's too perilous. Jan 15 15:12:45 perilous peril, even! Jan 15 15:17:44 koen: what about pulling #42499 until pw is up? Jan 15 15:19:16 av500: but someone at lkml just called me community, at least he thinks I give something back ;) Jan 15 15:21:29 called you a coomunity Jan 15 15:21:32 ? Jan 15 15:22:27 he referred to a patch from me as a patch from the community Jan 15 15:23:22 aholler: at work, the community is everybody that's not TI Jan 15 15:23:36 I get confused by that Jan 15 15:23:54 yes, that it is Jan 15 15:24:18 if I contribute from my !TI email then I think I'll be the community ;) Jan 15 15:24:39 but on the other side, I'm always confused ;) Jan 15 15:26:19 * av500 orders the community to work harder! Jan 15 15:27:04 aholler: I'm there too, I work around smart people all day and mostly spin around in confusion. Jan 15 15:27:19 I hope to have a smart question some day ;) Jan 15 15:29:07 back Jan 15 15:30:34 I should become a theoretical physican, confusion is there job Jan 15 15:30:38 front Jan 15 15:33:32 recently I've seen a physican drawing ∞ + ∞ + ∞ on a board Jan 15 15:34:46 while trying to explain blackholes and the noledge of physicans ;) Jan 15 15:36:53 aholler, I won't take medical advice from you :) Jan 15 15:38:00 beause I've forgotten twice an i? ;) Jan 15 15:38:07 once again, I'm confused...this time about the lack of an i Jan 15 15:38:08 ;) Jan 15 15:38:22 is there a medical advice channel on freenode? Jan 15 15:38:29 us .usians could use such a thing Jan 15 15:38:34 I was hoping for a subtle joke there. :) Jan 15 15:38:40 free medical advice via irc :) Jan 15 15:38:52 yes, free healthcare! :) Jan 15 15:38:57 mdp, more please! Jan 15 15:39:05 I'll take 5 of those! Jan 15 15:40:02 eh, they are called physicists, how cumbersome Jan 15 15:40:06 can we tax Microsoft software to pay for free healthcare? Jan 15 15:43:02 yeah, they should give back the m$-tax to the community Jan 15 15:45:25 skip the community.. just give it to me.. I'll spend it wisely... promise Jan 15 15:47:25 bradfa_: alan_o will provide you health care Jan 15 15:49:05 alan_o, livestock-style healthcare...just put him out of his misery. Jan 15 15:49:31 aholler: do I have to post from gmail to get some of that community tax revenue? Jan 15 15:49:49 * mdp descends to confusion again about whether he's in the Community(tm) Jan 15 15:49:58 you have to use hotmail Jan 15 15:50:04 hehe Jan 15 15:50:26 I feel uncomfortable telling my wife I'm using hotmail Jan 15 15:50:56 what is this pr0nmail.com?!? Jan 15 15:51:01 would she give you a creeper card? Jan 15 15:51:06 indeed Jan 15 15:52:27 yawn Jan 15 15:53:12 rise and shine Jan 15 15:53:43 hi Jan 15 15:53:53 lo Jan 15 15:54:16 i've moved to oklahoma as of Friday Jan 15 15:54:27 noted Jan 15 15:54:28 cable internet hooked up last night Jan 15 15:56:04 full b/w tubes...engaged Jan 15 15:56:39 av500: you can one or the other Jan 15 16:00:57 weird people here Jan 15 16:01:29 * av500 looks around Jan 15 16:02:16 where? Jan 15 16:04:12 all the nicks with _ in the name... Jan 15 16:04:23 I mean, that cant be right, can it? Jan 15 16:05:37 seems reasonable Jan 15 16:06:32 * mdp encourages alan_o to become alanO and embrace studlyCaps Jan 15 16:08:23 mdp should become m_d_p Jan 15 16:08:52 or P_MD Jan 15 16:09:00 then mdp can give medical advice Jan 15 16:09:18 on a related note, SPI buses are fun Jan 15 16:09:25 mightyDamnPleased Jan 15 16:09:37 bradfa_: proof? Jan 15 16:09:54 I'll agree in principle, but you must show proof to the community! Jan 15 16:10:06 mdp___: I have a spi bus with 5 out of band GIPO Jan 15 16:10:07 GPIO Jan 15 16:10:15 it's fun Jan 15 16:10:24 off by one errors are fun too Jan 15 16:10:26 cool Jan 15 16:10:35 mdp, I'm pretty sure we could get away with 1 GPIO Jan 15 16:10:38 GigPIO? Jan 15 16:10:47 av500, that's processor intensive Jan 15 16:10:55 bradfa_: no, its offloaded Jan 15 16:10:57 dma should fix it Jan 15 16:11:04 no limit to devices, it's nice Jan 15 16:11:07 to an eGPIO cell Jan 15 16:11:12 can I quote you on that? Jan 15 16:11:16 "dma should fix it" Jan 15 16:11:51 mdp, yes you can quote me Jan 15 16:12:01 brb, fixing stupid name Jan 15 16:12:09 brb? Jan 15 16:12:13 "can dma help here?" Jan 15 16:12:14 /nick Jan 15 16:12:21 ah Jan 15 16:12:42 the plague! Jan 15 16:12:48 av500, I have to walk over to freenode to fix things Jan 15 16:12:53 takes a second Jan 15 16:13:00 was a shorter second than I thought it would be Jan 15 16:13:06 welcome, prpplague of purpledom. Jan 15 16:13:20 hi prpplague Jan 15 16:13:22 mdp: greetings! Jan 15 16:13:26 greetings all Jan 15 16:13:34 "Did basic enumeration testing in omap4 beagle, omap4 sdp and omap3 beagle." Jan 15 16:13:41 hahahaha Jan 15 16:13:51 what is there left to do? :P Jan 15 16:13:52 omap1, omap2, omap3, omap4? Jan 15 16:13:57 can I use that, too? Jan 15 16:13:58 * mdp predicts usb stuff Jan 15 16:14:02 TI people should fake their "tested on " lines better Jan 15 16:14:04 koen: hehe Jan 15 16:14:15 mdp, really? Jan 15 16:14:48 koen, panda4 rebranding!!!! Jan 15 16:14:52 I also like that the series deals with mutli-phy MUSB, which is found on none of the platforms kishon "tested" Jan 15 16:15:01 koen, doesn't the attention to detail impress you? Jan 15 16:15:29 testing enums is most likely monotone Jan 15 16:15:33 * bradfa just got spam for linkedin knockoff Jan 15 16:17:10 kinkedin? Jan 15 16:17:17 it's not what you think! Jan 15 16:17:21 mdp, nsfw Jan 15 16:17:25 ? Jan 15 16:17:26 hehe Jan 15 16:17:29 mdp, very much probably :) Jan 15 16:17:45 big monitor, my back to the office, yeah, I'm not going to google that Jan 15 16:18:02 you'll be plowing the parking lot next Jan 15 16:18:22 :) Jan 15 16:18:28 mdp, requires winter to come back Jan 15 16:18:38 kinkedin has a value of $377 Jan 15 16:18:40 any takers? Jan 15 16:19:37 bradfa, proper temps have returned to this locale after a outside bbq weekend ;) Jan 15 16:19:52 bradfa: have the interns shoveling snow? Jan 15 16:20:56 so who's all talks got accepted? Jan 15 16:21:33 dm8tbr needed more cloudtizen Jan 15 16:22:06 koen: yes, as said, moar buzzzzzwoards Jan 15 16:23:54 so mdp, koen, who else? Jan 15 16:24:25 ACTION  Jan 15 16:24:39 hey mru! Jan 15 16:25:49 mru: welcome back to reality Jan 15 16:26:29 mranostay, it rained a lot back here..no more snows Jan 15 16:26:33 mdp: http://hackaday.com/2013/01/15/how-6502-overflow-works/ Jan 15 16:27:27 prpplague: nice...there's some great stuff on the old mmu for 65xxx on the interwebs too Jan 15 16:27:31 mranostay, no, but new intern got code deployed to manufacturing Jan 15 16:27:31 yes, mmu Jan 15 16:27:48 mru: where did you go? i was a quiet month :) Jan 15 16:27:50 mranostay, range testing again next week, so he'll probably get to do that :) Jan 15 16:28:08 prpplague: I've shelved that..have to focus on "kernel testing" now ;) Jan 15 16:30:51 mdp: that is the BoF? Jan 15 16:33:45 hmm, besides EOMA68, the guy is not also building a tablet Jan 15 16:34:24 mranostay, kernel testing tools and techniques Jan 15 16:35:04 as a BoF, I'm looking to get some discussion started to see what everybody's best practices are. Jan 15 16:35:23 like, "we let the community test our crap" Jan 15 16:35:30 we have best practices? Jan 15 16:35:39 "aholler will test it, he's the community" Jan 15 16:36:17 "have lennart poettering declare whatever it does the One True Way" Jan 15 16:37:08 merge kernel into systemd Jan 15 16:37:52 kerneld Jan 15 16:37:52 prpplague: you have a talk at ELC? Jan 15 16:38:00 panto, will it start up faster? Jan 15 16:38:17 only if you manage to configure it correctly Jan 15 16:38:38 oh, mru is back :) Jan 15 16:38:42 mru: justin beiber of open source? Jan 15 16:38:53 kerneld bootchart, find those slow lazy modules! Jan 15 16:39:23 enfant terrible? Jan 15 16:39:30 for that bit of email and web browsing, why do I even need a kernel? Jan 15 16:40:10 off to day job Jan 15 16:41:07 av500: oh you coming to ELC as well? Jan 15 16:42:04 mranostay: yea representing my i2c talk ( and no i did not vote on it myself....) Jan 15 16:42:43 mdp: funny thing, that sub block works almost exactly the same as the harwell, just that the harwell is decimal based Jan 15 16:43:11 prpplague: is that allowed? :) Jan 15 16:43:13 prpplague: my colleague just asked, his submission is still in state 'new' Jan 15 16:43:25 dm8tbr: name? Jan 15 16:43:40 prolly Łukasz Rymanowski Jan 15 16:43:49 I'm not sure which one submitted Jan 15 16:44:21 prpplague: nice Jan 15 16:44:26 i am not seeing an entery for rymanowski Jan 15 16:48:46 mranostay: so far, no :( Jan 15 16:49:04 mranostay: you have to kick somebody else Jan 15 16:49:23 av500, uh oh, could you at least send a telepresence device? Jan 15 16:49:58 i'd kick mru but i can afford the bills for troll bites Jan 15 16:52:53 mdp: I think if you gaze eastward you should see at av500's head poking above the horizon Jan 15 16:55:16 mru, good enough for me Jan 15 16:55:22 :) Jan 15 16:55:47 and wb mru Jan 15 16:56:00 hi mru Jan 15 16:56:40 av500: have over the head troll baton to mru again :) Jan 15 16:59:59 dm8tbr: i don't see entry with that name Jan 15 17:00:24 didn't follow exact steps it seems Jan 15 17:02:44 eh did not send the codez Jan 15 17:03:57 plz help! Jan 15 17:04:27 ans plz! Jan 15 17:08:23 prpplague: aaah, sorry, he submitted for ABS... Jan 15 17:09:02 * dm8tbr keeps forgetting that those are two separate events Jan 15 17:09:52 I guess ELC will die out Jan 15 17:09:57 and it will only be ABS.... Jan 15 17:10:16 oh and QNXconf Jan 15 17:10:27 av500: maybe that's why they didn't accept my proposal. I said android. ;) Jan 15 17:12:03 av500: ew Jan 15 17:12:40 koen: is there an angstrom ARMv7 (beagle) target that supports bluez 5.x? Jan 15 17:12:53 bbxm, rather. Jan 15 17:13:10 bluez is dead too Jan 15 17:13:21 bluedroid ftw Jan 15 17:13:56 * prpplague finishes packing up his cube Jan 15 17:14:06 seeing as how they just released 5.1, they seem far from dea. Jan 15 17:14:08 dead. Jan 15 17:14:08 yates: yeah, but it won't likely build cleanly Jan 15 17:14:15 yates: try the 'next' branch of the setupscripts Jan 15 17:14:42 koen: ok Jan 15 17:17:32 droid is full of themselves, imo. Jan 15 18:11:12 grrr 101 was extra bad today Jan 15 18:11:25 accidents on both sides at the same point even Jan 15 18:11:29 any trolls here Jan 15 18:11:53 what if there are? Jan 15 18:12:06 mranostay, any accidents that you caused? Jan 15 18:12:13 panto: if only Jan 15 18:16:55 mranostay probably rolled past the accidents with his trollface on Jan 15 18:23:32 hello Jan 15 18:23:37 world Jan 15 18:23:47 ; Jan 15 18:23:52 Could you help me to learn the beagle board please Jan 15 18:23:58 How can I learn it Jan 15 18:24:34 mdp, if I want to get back to working on my GPMC stuff with the Bone should I be playing with 3.7 or 3.8? Jan 15 18:25:16 ka6sox: the 3.8 beagleboard/kernel tree is the place to be now for production-ish mainline stuff Jan 15 18:25:56 how far along are we with the DT integration/ Jan 15 18:26:07 it's highly integrated! Jan 15 18:26:08 ;) Jan 15 18:26:15 in what context do you mean? Jan 15 18:26:16 (and required eh?) Jan 15 18:26:37 oh, well, these kernels only boot from DT Jan 15 18:26:43 okay Jan 15 18:26:48 very good. Jan 15 18:26:56 so yeah, you can operate "normally" Jan 15 18:26:58 Could ypu advise? Jan 15 18:27:20 behluls, study hard, party hard. Next question? Jan 15 18:27:22 you'll find gaps still...like work hasn't start on wl127x DT support..if you need that Jan 15 18:27:22 mdp, okay thanks...I'll pull down the tree and start playing. Jan 15 18:27:41 not for the Bone Jan 15 18:27:44 ka6sox: it gets better with every churn from what I see Jan 15 18:27:54 I'm using it for talking to the FPGA Board... Jan 15 18:28:15 ka6sox: ok, yeah, depends on what you need...I'm not sure what the new gpmc rewrite looks like... Jan 15 18:28:29 behluls: http://beagleboard.org Jan 15 18:28:33 that will impact any gpmc config you developed on 3.2 Jan 15 18:28:37 has a lot of information Jan 15 18:28:45 did you read it all? Jan 15 18:28:59 mdp, me neither, so I'll poke at it. (I don't need any of the NAND ecc stuff) Jan 15 18:29:37 ka6sox: since there isn't an off-the-shelf peripheral on bone that uses gpmc that koen/panto seem to work with, I have doubts about how well tested the rewritten series is Jan 15 18:30:24 I have a nand cape (that doesn't seem to work) Jan 15 18:30:24 mru: what is your talk on? arm opitization? Jan 15 18:30:27 does that help? :) Jan 15 18:31:07 panto, :( Jan 15 18:31:23 which u-boot git repo is the source of the typical (or the one angstrom uses) beaglebone MLO/u-boot.img? Jan 15 18:31:32 panto, doesn't seem to work as in the board itself is broken or the driver is broken? Jan 15 18:31:48 doesn't seem to work in u-boot even Jan 15 18:31:53 dunno, it's a hacked up board Jan 15 18:31:54 oh Jan 15 18:32:08 I am taking free engineering samples *cough* Jan 15 18:32:41 so if you have a cape working for 3.2 I could try to make it go Jan 15 18:32:53 (on my copious free time) Jan 15 18:33:37 punk can always help :) Jan 15 18:33:53 I'll as the hardware developer :D Jan 15 18:34:12 panto, we've heard lots about the non-working nand cape ;) Jan 15 18:34:23 ka6sox: don't let panto touch a soldering iron :) Jan 15 18:34:37 yes, I fried on beaglebone just today Jan 15 18:34:40 *one Jan 15 18:34:54 panto: gg Jan 15 18:35:45 * ka6sox keeps that in mind... Jan 15 18:36:18 hm, i guess it's u-boot-ti.git Jan 15 18:36:47 panto: i'd let you practice on rpis Jan 15 18:37:33 is sacrificing rpi's acceptable? Jan 15 18:38:48 it required of the IC gods Jan 15 18:39:00 they don't have a brain, so they don't have feelings Jan 15 18:51:09 panto: that explains managers then :) Jan 15 18:51:45 and bib-whats-his-name fans Jan 15 19:01:31 panto: just think that crap will be classics in 20 years :) Jan 15 19:03:27 mdp: maybe I should sent panto a camera cape Jan 15 19:04:41 went and saw the hobbit in 48fps, 3D with teh flash surround sound last night. Jan 15 19:04:44 48fps rocks Jan 15 19:04:50 its increadible. Jan 15 19:05:39 they shot in NZ right? Jan 15 19:06:01 yes, New Zealand = MiddleEarth Jan 15 19:06:01 mranostay, yes, that is where the hobbits live Jan 15 19:06:12 what is 'teh flash surround sound' Jan 15 19:07:04 it comes from the clouds Jan 15 19:07:28 btw, for official soundtrack of the hobbit, be sure to do a youtube search of 'the ballad of bilbo baggins' Jan 15 19:08:51 Dobly Atmos Jan 15 19:09:08 http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/culture/7868426/Embassy-Theatre-getting-sound-upgrade-for-Hobbit Jan 15 19:10:05 my theatre was not so equipped Jan 15 19:10:30 the embassy was where the world premeire was Jan 15 19:10:48 Crofton|work: how many Tizen stickers you have left? Jan 15 19:11:00 https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/286792_10200391280611586_443818218_o.jpg?dl=1 Jan 15 19:11:12 do.. dumb facebook links Jan 15 19:11:16 https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/286792_10200391280611586_443818218_o.jpg Jan 15 19:11:35 my wife infront of the theatre. Jan 15 19:13:48 im buildign my first cape today Jan 15 19:14:35 mranostay, I am out :( Jan 15 19:15:02 have to restock at ELC Jan 15 19:17:00 geez facebook is coming out with a phone? Jan 15 19:21:11 mranostay: source? Jan 15 19:21:52 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2414271,00.asp Jan 15 19:22:35 woohoo .. another patent to add to my cv ~.~ Jan 15 19:23:40 thurbad: which is? Jan 15 19:23:44 not really a confirmation, more of an opinion piece Jan 15 19:24:22 nothing really important, more of a jest at the process than actual pride Jan 15 19:34:25 OMAP_GPIO_IRQ was killed? Jan 15 19:44:46 jsabeaudry: yeah, it took over 10 bullets to put it down for good. Jan 15 19:45:07 pesky zombies Jan 15 19:45:58 jsabeaudry: gpio_to_irq() is the generic approach. Jan 15 19:47:57 mdp, oh great, thanks a lot! Jan 15 19:48:06 np Jan 15 19:48:19 * mdp looks for somebody to update the big board Jan 15 19:49:11 we need to improve this Jan 15 19:49:15 mdp, ah not so great in the end, that thing is gpl only, I guess I'll use a number Jan 15 19:49:17 this needs a ticketing system Jan 15 19:49:29 and a customer satisfaction survey Jan 15 19:49:34 dm8tbr: yes, we need a _tool_ Jan 15 19:49:43 or a karma bot Jan 15 19:49:47 * dm8tbr is just a damager... Jan 15 19:49:49 +1 mdp Jan 15 19:50:07 jsabeaudry: bummer...yeah, I'm stuck in a gpl centric world Jan 15 19:50:34 I suppose I could park a bot here. Need to run one anyway for various reasons Jan 15 19:50:36 mdp: most of us are tools does that help? :) Jan 15 19:51:05 mdp: and it allso needs a better defined process with more exact steps Jan 15 19:51:12 Jan 15 19:51:29 jsabeaudry: I was reviewing some old 2.6.18 TI code for the puma5 cablemodem stuff...noticed the shady practice of using a !export gpl wrapper around a export gpl symbol in their mach-* code. somewhat embarassing. Jan 15 19:51:56 dm8tbr: yeah, and the place to define it is on Sharepoint Jan 15 19:52:17 mdp: that's where some companies store source code... Jan 15 19:52:34 dm8tbr: I try not to look at that stuff ;) Jan 15 19:54:10 mdp, heh, just by putting hurdles it will move in the right direction slowly if if people can still jump over hurdles Jan 15 19:56:49 Ok, now I need to implore the gods of GPMC and the gods of devicetree, searches on the googster seems to indicate that only nand devices can be used cleanly with DT, surely this is an error, right? Jan 15 19:57:50 jsabeaudry: google is the canonical source of exact steps, yes Jan 15 19:58:35 actually, not sure..it wouldn't surprise me if nand was the primary focus as the authors of the rewrite only have nor/nand on the boards they were testing I think Jan 15 19:59:02 nor is good, nor is what I need Jan 15 19:59:48 Until then do I have any other choice besides writing registers directly like a madman? Jan 15 20:00:07 a hack to be working is always a good starting point Jan 15 20:01:11 ahh, I see dmack needed DT binding for gpmc/nand on his board Jan 15 20:02:39 jsabeaudry: nor patches welcome! Jan 15 20:08:38 panto, I think you have forgot to git add firmware/capes/cape-bone-dvi-00A2.dts (v13 does not build) Jan 15 20:08:57 ah, yes Jan 15 20:09:01 thanks jsabeaudry Jan 15 20:09:02 pushing now Jan 15 20:10:03 done Jan 15 20:10:08 ty Jan 15 20:17:55 hi mr tema Jan 15 20:18:02 and wrong channel :) Jan 15 20:19:45 mranostay, why wrong.. Jan 15 20:20:11 ok not totally wrong but less spammy :) Jan 15 20:21:00 i have the spam, spam eggs and spam Jan 15 20:25:07 cya tomorrow Jan 15 23:39:51 so, where does "U-Boot 2011.09-00053-g967afe4" come from? Jan 15 23:41:39 magic Jan 15 23:47:33 that's not particularly specific Jan 15 23:48:38 if i want to build a u-boot for beaglebone where do i get the appropriate sources? Jan 15 23:57:09 jakllsch: from the u-boot tree Jan 15 23:58:13 the denx.de one? Jan 15 23:58:16 yes Jan 15 23:58:48 it acted differently than the one that ships with beaglebone Jan 15 23:59:02 decided on 600MHz instead of 500 or 700 Jan 16 00:00:38 different versions Jan 16 00:00:39 the shipped bone will have come from OE Jan 16 00:00:58 s/OE/magic/ Jan 16 00:01:19 u-boot is GPL? Jan 16 00:02:12 yes Jan 16 00:02:27 follow the GPL offer that was included with bone then :-D Jan 16 00:02:52 (where was that?) Jan 16 00:04:31 sure mine came with a paper slip pointing to the sources Jan 16 00:04:44 but I could be thinging of different device Jan 16 00:18:37 XorA: almost beer o clock Jan 16 00:18:46 * XorA dances Jan 16 00:18:58 not for me at the salt mines Jan 16 00:19:17 I shall think of the fallen soldier Jan 16 00:20:57 what are you rabbiting on about Jan 16 00:26:49 mranostay, the phrase is "Beer:30"...*sigh* Jan 16 00:26:56 * mdp provides exact steps Jan 16 00:30:07 that implies your late for beer, and its never late for beer :-D Jan 16 00:30:17 usually too early for beer Jan 16 00:30:29 but that only counts if you went to sleep :) Jan 16 00:30:59 drinking at 7a is okay if you started it at 11p the night before Jan 16 00:31:16 or 7p Jan 16 00:31:18 waking up and drinking at 7a is another story Jan 16 00:31:37 mru: 12 hours you have to be a master at pacing :) Jan 16 00:31:37 what of waking up and drinking at 7p? Jan 16 00:31:51 ah corner case Jan 16 00:32:21 mru: so were you on holiday for the month? Jan 16 00:32:35 no Jan 16 00:35:33 mru: hospital? Jan 16 00:37:14 no Jan 16 00:39:03 well anything inbetween is either less or more fun Jan 16 00:39:59 I can think of many things worse than hospital Jan 16 00:40:20 or worse than holiday, if that's how you view the scale Jan 16 00:56:10 mru: trolling the holidays can be fun Jan 16 01:08:16 https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/22123_10151357841552661_20292598_n.jpg Jan 16 01:08:22 not very exciting Jan 16 01:08:25 but my first cape Jan 16 01:08:39 the cape to help make more capes Jan 16 01:09:52 what does it do? Jan 16 01:09:55 nice job mrpackethead, good idea. Jan 16 01:10:28 its just some buffering and some logic to stop dumb programming from blowing up things Jan 16 01:10:41 its going to control 4 Fets in a H bridge Jan 16 01:11:03 which i am using to control a copper electroplatting tank Jan 16 01:11:16 for making the throughhole vias Jan 16 01:11:32 ohhhh the 540 is very versatile though Jan 16 01:13:13 i'll take the PWM source, pass it through a 3db/octave LP filter (knee at 4khz).. Jan 16 01:13:52 that gives me a DC voltage level thats useful for controlling the current through the FET Jan 16 01:14:24 hopefully this might be the last board i have to solder wires though. Jan 16 01:24:01 it would be amusing to sponsor the massage parlor or the attendee lounge under the troll brand Jan 16 01:25:57 is it too late? Jan 16 01:26:44 the trolls in the hobbit were quite amuzing Jan 16 01:26:46 stupid. Jan 16 01:28:15 Crofton|work: Massage seems like a anti-harassment policy voilatation :) Jan 16 01:28:31 dunno Jan 16 01:28:34 looks open Jan 16 01:28:40 maybe the lounger would be better Jan 16 01:28:46 although I would go for a massage Jan 16 01:29:55 Crofton|work: bronze level? Jan 16 01:30:18 3K Jan 16 01:30:42 Add-On is the key word Jan 16 01:31:06 hmm, you think you need to be a sponsor first? Jan 16 01:31:23 i think so Jan 16 01:31:30 prpplague: can you confirm? Jan 16 01:31:44 mranostay: if you sponsored, they wold probably you accept your presentation Jan 16 01:31:46 base sponsorship is 5k then you can alacart additional items Jan 16 01:32:14 mrpackethead_: they already did so don't need that Jan 16 01:34:47 robclark: can you forward me the datasheet on that nxp part? Jan 16 01:36:14 prpplague: I was advertising your pet project to gabrbedd :-D Jan 16 01:36:30 uh oh Jan 16 01:36:34 * prpplague wonders which one Jan 16 01:36:34 Crofton|work: what would a troll logo look like? Jan 16 01:36:48 sigrok :-D Jan 16 01:37:27 mranostay: http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/sites/default/files/styles/logo-thumbnail/public/062011/trollface_hd.png Jan 16 01:37:30 XorA: ahh Jan 16 01:37:37 XorA: dandy Jan 16 01:39:20 prpplague: you think LF would return our cheque if we did that? :) Jan 16 01:40:36 hehe i doubt it, as long as we dotted the I's and crossed the T's Jan 16 01:41:46 you could almost do a troll raffle for the conference passes :P Jan 16 01:41:57 hehe Jan 16 01:42:51 winners get to have dinner with _av500_ and mru Jan 16 01:43:30 and discuss ARM cache structures Jan 16 01:44:00 * XorA caches his arms on a shelf Jan 16 01:44:16 not much structure in the pile though Jan 16 01:44:34 hehe Jan 16 01:45:23 and the next shelf over is a cache of z80s Jan 16 01:49:07 old people in here Jan 16 01:49:09 :) Jan 16 01:49:29 who let the kid in? Jan 16 01:50:05 * XorA needs the exact steps to port linux to zx80 Jan 16 02:00:18 because? Jan 16 02:18:18 prpplague: Was working with a USBee DX and hated their software. So XorA suggested looking in to sigrok Jan 16 02:18:34 gabrbedd: ahh dandy! Jan 16 02:18:44 prpplague: he said, "but there's no GUI" -- as if that was a drawback. Jan 16 02:19:19 hehe Jan 16 02:19:36 gabrbedd: there are some gui overlays for it, but its not very robust as of yet Jan 16 02:19:57 guis are for lusers :) Jan 16 02:23:03 hey over on #angstrom , coldsoup said I should come ask on here about DMTimers on the 3359— has anyone written a DMTimer userspace driver? I have looked all over googlish/forums/TI, etc etc but I bet I just didn't have the right kind of keywords…. Jan 16 02:24:11 * mranostay fist bumps pfefferz Jan 16 02:37:56 does anybody know a good C / C++ USB library that would work on my Angstrom beagleboard? Jan 16 02:38:22 I tried libusb but was having trouble getting it to cross compile Jan 16 02:39:22 * mranostay headdesks Jan 16 02:41:47 hehe Jan 16 02:43:06 cykon: libusb does cross compile. Jan 16 02:43:10 Let me get you some exact steps Jan 16 02:43:14 hehe Jan 16 02:43:26 thanks Jan 16 02:43:35 https://github.com/signal11/hidapi/blob/master/README.txt Jan 16 02:43:40 if you go down to the cross compiling section Jan 16 02:43:58 So that document is for hidapi, but does document building libusb cross Jan 16 02:44:06 (because it's a requirement for hidapi) Jan 16 02:44:14 nice, the board is underway Jan 16 02:44:17 on the mill now Jan 16 02:44:22 awesome, thanks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 16 02:59:59 2013