**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 16 02:59:59 2013 Jan 16 03:05:25 toneeee: what do you want with dmtimer in userspace? Jan 16 03:05:50 oh hi aholler. typing now Jan 16 03:06:35 ? Jan 16 03:07:01 aholler: I want to use it like this: set the timer to zero and to interrupt on a capture input event. start the timer. toss the interrupt out to userspace. get the interrupt in my program. go read the stopped counter register at my leisure Jan 16 03:08:36 I was hoping to find something already done that essentially maps those beautiful omap timers out to sysfs. I might go write it myself. Jan 16 03:08:53 The functions are there, just not wired. Jan 16 03:11:22 sounds like a broken mixture between kernel (driver), realtime and userspace ;) Jan 16 03:11:34 yeah. Jan 16 03:12:00 the problem is that userspace isn't realtime, right ? so the timer will stop on the capture event and I can read it whenever I want to Jan 16 03:16:41 so you are in need of a driver to solve your specific problem. Jan 16 03:19:26 Well that's the sum of it but I would rather have a generic driver that makes the timers work in userspace and use the generic driver than create a driver for my specific problem. That's no driver at all, it's just a hack. Jan 16 03:19:59 linux/posix already has generic timers Jan 16 03:20:07 but not for the DMTimers Jan 16 03:32:14 aholler: anyway, I wasn't asking someone to write a driver for me— I was asking if it had been written already. The heavy lifting is already in the kernel in the form of the functions built to use the DMTimers for the clockevent and free-run timers. I might could write the driver myself by linking the kernel DMTimer functions to sysfs. I think DMTimers 6 & 7 are used for the video on the Beagleboard (but I have a beaglebone so th Jan 16 03:37:51 it's a good discussion though, thank you :D Jan 16 03:45:39 ah beer Jan 16 03:46:57 a good beer is good indeed. Jan 16 03:47:25 trying a new one Jan 16 03:47:34 Beck's Sapphire Jan 16 03:47:47 true story - on the way to a movie tonight we were behind a Bud Light truck. I said something about being stuck behind a beer truck. The missus said "but it's not really beer". Jan 16 03:48:15 emeb_mac: good woman Jan 16 03:48:26 I am a lucky man. Jan 16 03:48:33 :) Jan 16 03:48:33 truely Jan 16 03:50:10 i think i may have one 6 pack of bud light in any apartment i've had Jan 16 03:50:20 and that was since my brother brought it over Jan 16 03:50:43 your brother needs an education. Jan 16 03:51:05 you have no idea :) Jan 16 03:51:14 he is my complete opposite Jan 16 03:53:07 my brother is and even more discriminating beer aficionado than I. Jan 16 03:54:39 this beer isn't bad at all Jan 16 03:56:34 emeb_mac: coming to ELC? Jan 16 03:56:59 mranostay: nah. gotta keep working the day job. Jan 16 03:57:25 ah same here Jan 16 03:57:48 hopefully i don't have to take PTO this time Jan 16 03:58:30 emeb_mac: no love for the CPLD cape there :) Jan 16 03:59:14 i sense some vote rigging on few of them though Jan 16 04:01:38 Nothing in the rules about stuffing the ballot box. Jan 16 04:01:50 hehe Jan 16 04:02:00 solar cape i doubt would be allowed by CCO Jan 16 04:02:19 changing 12V lead acid batteries :) Jan 16 04:08:20 gabrbedd: I just prefer my waveforms not in hex, preferrable on a green CRT :-D Jan 16 04:20:59 XorA: FF FF 00 00 FF FF ! Jan 16 04:23:16 is that the 64 bit equiv of the f00f bug? Jan 16 04:26:13 ka6sox: popping into NorCal? :) Jan 16 04:27:11 fat f00f Jan 16 04:31:03 hey now Jan 16 04:31:21 nothign in the rules that say the likes mean anythign. Jan 16 04:33:42 tommorrow 11:45 sunnyvale Jan 16 04:44:03 Mathilda Ave... Jan 16 04:49:21 gah platform_data is the problem here.. Jan 16 04:50:24 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/545200_10151358130442661_1665476775_n.jpg Jan 16 04:51:36 the first of many more to come.. Jan 16 04:51:47 waltzing Mathilda. Jan 16 04:55:58 moin Jan 16 04:59:31 mrpackethead_: so you can do that in your house? Jan 16 04:59:39 can do what? Jan 16 05:00:28 make that board Jan 16 05:00:32 yes. Jan 16 05:00:49 What kind of equipment do you have ? Jan 16 05:00:54 and this board is to help improve capabilit Jan 16 05:00:58 LPKF S63 Jan 16 05:03:46 so maybe you can answer this Jan 16 05:03:55 how do you plate a via? Jan 16 05:06:02 you mean the process? Jan 16 05:06:04 electroplating? Jan 16 05:06:12 I guess. Jan 16 05:06:13 ka6sox: I hope you know what people look like coz I dont :-D Jan 16 05:06:27 Russ: is that how it's done? Jan 16 05:07:23 Seems to me like it would be hard to make anything stick to the substrate Jan 16 05:07:29 since it's non-conductive Jan 16 05:07:33 you can wick solder through it Jan 16 05:07:53 I ask, youtube answers Jan 16 05:07:54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTNuTv_IQp4 Jan 16 05:10:03 alan_o, really, I'd save yourself all the etching and chemicals and just go oshpark Jan 16 05:10:08 probably 2 weeks Jan 16 05:10:19 oh, I'm not doing any at home :) Jan 16 05:10:29 ? Jan 16 05:10:36 who's doing it? Jan 16 05:10:40 It's just a curiosity Jan 16 05:10:52 mrpackethead_: is making boards. Jan 16 05:11:11 ah, in the video the step happens before etching, but on real boards, it happens after etching Jan 16 05:11:18 any hole that has copper touching it gets electroplated Jan 16 05:11:53 XorA, I do Jan 16 05:12:05 hmm, so if the copper goes to the edge of the hole, the electroplating process will connect both sides through the hole? Jan 16 05:12:11 oh, here he says Jan 16 05:12:15 through hole activation Jan 16 05:12:17 that's the answer Jan 16 05:12:22 it does have to be conductive Jan 16 05:13:31 ka6sox: *phew* so you guys can hunt me :-D Jan 16 05:14:14 calculus: ping Jan 16 05:16:31 I think on many two layer processes, they plate before they etch Jan 16 05:17:13 what's with the doodle? Jan 16 05:18:04 trying to figure it out :) Jan 16 05:20:13 oh Jan 16 05:20:16 Frank Zamboni Jan 16 05:20:20 when you lose, there's a button Jan 16 05:20:36 funny :) Jan 16 05:23:30 I have this guy who, I swear, sends all of his email through a ticket system of some kind Jan 16 05:23:42 There's never any reply context (or RE) Jan 16 05:23:54 he just starts typing and I'm supposed to remember what the last email was about Jan 16 05:24:02 and all the emails have a case number in the subject Jan 16 05:24:21 Right when you think you've heard of everything. Jan 16 05:24:27 holy spamming alan_o Jan 16 05:25:06 alan_o: i hope he pays you a lot :) Jan 16 05:25:25 * KotH wonders why anyone is bothering with doing his own pcb these days Jan 16 05:25:34 especialy more than one layer.. Jan 16 05:25:37 KotH: hehe Jan 16 05:27:02 wtf.. this guy seriuosly uses HCl w/o any protection? Jan 16 05:27:22 What strength Jan 16 05:27:23 ? Jan 16 05:27:37 (as if I have any idea what to compare it to, so nevermind) Jan 16 05:27:43 seems to be very diluted.. but still Jan 16 05:29:02 i havent learned much in highschools chemistry classes, but one thing i did was: never handle any chemicals w/o protection unless you are 110% sure it's safe Jan 16 05:29:47 who is handling HCl? Jan 16 05:30:01 06:07 < Russ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTNuTv_IQp4 Jan 16 05:31:45 sorry i'm back Jan 16 05:32:03 the HCl content in the electrolyte is pretty minimal Jan 16 05:33:10 like drain cleaner minimal? Jan 16 05:33:37 my electrolyte is 20L of 10% H2S04, about 20ml of 35% HCL, 1500g of CuS04.5H20, Some Polyehthlene Glycol and .4g of Janus Green B Jan 16 05:34:11 the pcb, i'm actually making is for for my beagle controlled electroplater Jan 16 05:35:10 you need to maintain constant current Jan 16 05:35:37 and being able to supply PWM and reverse it Jan 16 05:35:40 is really useful Jan 16 05:43:21 mrpackethead_: why do you bother with making your own pcbs? Jan 16 05:43:28 * KotH has not done that since highschool Jan 16 05:43:33 speed Jan 16 05:43:35 and even then it was a mistake :) Jan 16 05:43:57 development time is reduced. Jan 16 05:44:16 do you have such a high development rate? Jan 16 05:44:40 we have run 10 boards in a week Jan 16 05:45:31 but i also live in a place where overnight pcbs are not really a reality Jan 16 05:46:40 the cost of makign them is probalby higher than i can buy them Jan 16 05:53:00 KotH: Was that a suitble answer Jan 16 05:56:07 mrpackethead_: where do you live? Jan 16 05:59:51 alan_o: New Zealand Jan 16 06:01:41 Well, I'm on the other side of the world, where it's 1AM, so I will bid you all farewell. goodnight! Jan 16 06:04:57 mrpackethead_: yes, very suitable Jan 16 06:05:05 mrpackethead_: and being a kiwi explains a lot :-/ Jan 16 06:08:28 we have spun a board in 2.5 hours Jan 16 06:08:43 and have fixed a problem for a live show overnight. Jan 16 06:12:31 we usually fix such stuff with blue wires :) Jan 16 06:13:00 most of the stuff we do cannot be hand produced anyways (with 0.1mm tracks and such) Jan 16 06:13:30 and simple boards with only 2 layers are very rare around here Jan 16 06:14:28 i can mill 6/6 without any trouble Jan 16 06:15:08 .1mm is pretty narrow Jan 16 06:15:12 thats 4mil Jan 16 06:15:32 * mranostay watches his ELCE video Jan 16 06:16:17 * mranostay has to be drinking to listen :) Jan 16 06:17:01 mrpackethead_: our standard rules are to use .2mm tracks :) Jan 16 06:17:13 yes.. Jan 16 06:17:21 my DRC is normally set to 7/7 Jan 16 06:17:37 mrpackethead_: 0.1 when we are space limited, 0.3-0.5 for power (unless plane) Jan 16 06:17:46 7/7? Jan 16 06:17:56 7mil track, 7mil spacing Jan 16 06:18:29 ah.. Jan 16 06:18:44 we just follow what eurocircuits and pcb pool can do in their standard processes Jan 16 06:18:50 yup Jan 16 06:18:59 every time they update their proces, we update our rules :) Jan 16 06:19:07 whats your turn around time? Jan 16 06:19:10 for board deliver? Jan 16 06:19:21 and for the really tiny stuff, we have to use special pcb manufacturers anyways Jan 16 06:19:43 eurocircuit is usally 5 work days, some times we go for 3 Jan 16 06:20:13 for a project i'm currently working at we got someone who does it in 1 day.. but it costs extra :) Jan 16 06:20:21 (and it isn't a standard board either) Jan 16 06:20:44 yup.. i just dont' want to wait 5 days Jan 16 06:20:47 KotH: don't you want to play with acid :) Jan 16 06:20:54 its brain space dead for engineers Jan 16 06:21:04 if they have to wait for 5 days Jan 16 06:21:05 mranostay: i do that in the chemistry lab next semester Jan 16 06:21:13 mranostay: lol Jan 16 06:21:15 er.. Jan 16 06:21:17 mrpackethead_: lol Jan 16 06:21:25 mrpackethead_: we have more than enough to do to fill that time :) Jan 16 06:21:31 KotH: you are attending college? Jan 16 06:21:40 are you paying the engineers? Jan 16 06:21:44 * KotH is nearly always working on 2-4 projects in parallel Jan 16 06:21:56 mranostay: nope, university Jan 16 06:22:10 mrpackethead_: i'm the engineer who gets paid :) Jan 16 06:22:27 i have improved engineering output of my staff by about 25% by stopping parrallel project development Jan 16 06:22:45 the time required for brains to swap between projects Jan 16 06:22:52 juup, i know that Jan 16 06:23:07 the prob is, we have always a lot of dead time with projects Jan 16 06:23:08 start somthing, keep working on it till its finished Jan 16 06:23:16 KotH: yeah i wish i could attend school, work and have a life :) Jan 16 06:23:16 yes.. waiting for PCB's Jan 16 06:23:16 mostly because of suppliers who take their sweet time Jan 16 06:23:23 PCB suppliers? Jan 16 06:23:29 not only Jan 16 06:23:32 parts supplier Jan 16 06:23:36 won't happen at the salt mines here :) Jan 16 06:23:38 assembly companies Jan 16 06:23:40 etc pp Jan 16 06:23:59 mranostay: well.. move to a non-3rd-world country Jan 16 06:24:34 so, if i loose 400 hours per year per engineer due to dead time / wait time / multitask swap Jan 16 06:24:41 do you know how much that costs me Jan 16 06:24:47 a lot Jan 16 06:25:19 makes owning gear like an LPKF S63 and a hiring a workshop tech a pretty cheap proposition Jan 16 06:25:40 mrpackethead_: on another project i'm working on (which is currently on hold, waiting for the customer) it took 3 months for 3 suppliers who should do the manufacturing of a small electronics part to tell me whether they are able to do it or not... Jan 16 06:25:55 KotH: US is a 3-rd world country? :) Jan 16 06:26:03 4th Jan 16 06:26:10 * mranostay rolls eyes Jan 16 06:26:19 mranostay: from what i hear rather 4th or 5th Jan 16 06:26:21 if either of you have jobs i will accept :P Jan 16 06:26:29 no-one else is bank rupt as the USA Jan 16 06:26:36 mranostay: i'm not manager :) Jan 16 06:26:49 KotH: know one? :) Jan 16 06:26:59 i am not a manager eitehr. Jan 16 06:27:03 i pay a manager Jan 16 06:27:09 i am a leader Jan 16 06:27:30 i coukd'nt manage myself out of a paper bag Jan 16 06:28:27 the company i work at tries to brainwash current grads :) Jan 16 06:28:56 mranostay: yes, my boss :) Jan 16 06:29:07 mranostay: but sorry, you've the wrong skills for us Jan 16 06:29:21 bah happens :) Jan 16 06:29:28 mranostay: ofc, unless you have hidden EE skills and have experience in doing space grade electronics Jan 16 06:29:42 i do not have that level :) Jan 16 06:30:05 i will work for cheap is my only plus :P Jan 16 06:30:06 space is easy. Jan 16 06:30:18 mranostay: try these guys: http://scs.ch/ Jan 16 06:30:22 space for .ch of course Jan 16 06:30:30 you shoudl see what lampies do to gear Jan 16 06:30:34 space is easy. haha. Jan 16 06:30:41 mranostay: they are nearly always looking for people who know linux in depth Jan 16 06:31:00 as long as i got get a few swiss girls that mind my ghetto wages :) Jan 16 06:31:09 mrpackethead_: space is kind of easy, if you follow the rules Jan 16 06:31:17 mrpackethead_: the problem starts when you cannot follow the rules anymore :) Jan 16 06:31:22 everyting is easy , once you understand Jan 16 06:31:24 the problem Jan 16 06:31:31 * emeb_mac spent the first 4 years of his career doing flight hw. Jan 16 06:31:47 emeb_mac: my condolences Jan 16 06:31:51 * mranostay is scared to fly now Jan 16 06:31:59 KotH :) Jan 16 06:32:18 mranostay: flight hw != avionics Jan 16 06:32:33 pity i did'nt ahve time to enter some capes in the contest Jan 16 06:32:49 i'm sure an electroplating controller cape would have had increadbily wide appeal Jan 16 06:32:50 :-) Jan 16 06:33:12 i will work for cheap if anyone can me a visa in EU or etc :) Jan 16 06:33:21 mrpackethead_: yeah - sell it to all the guys who plate baby shoes. Jan 16 06:34:31 im just working on a sound / DMX / and general I/O card Jan 16 06:34:40 to plug a beagle into Jan 16 06:42:27 mranostay: i wouldnt be scared of flying Jan 16 06:43:07 mranostay: the regulations to do flight hw are an order of magnitude more strict than for implants Jan 16 06:43:25 my boobs are ok as they are Jan 16 06:52:08 mranostay: if you continue drinking like this, you might need one of those: http://www.sequanamedical.com/ (yes, the electronics and most of the software is our development) Jan 16 06:56:34 KotH: my question is will the watchdog reset the board randomly? :) Jan 16 06:57:33 * mranostay worked on xyz vendor who's product did that... Jan 16 07:00:00 KotH: i don't drink that much.. you can't use the conferences as a metric :) Jan 16 07:02:17 you don't drink at all iirc Jan 16 07:19:31 im serioulsy considering swapping PCB software Jan 16 07:20:05 mrpackethead_: what you use now? Jan 16 07:20:10 Eagle Jan 16 07:20:39 that is what iuse Jan 16 07:20:42 *i use Jan 16 07:20:45 * av500 too Jan 16 07:20:51 I mean, 10ys ago :) Jan 16 07:20:56 it runs natively on my mac Jan 16 07:21:02 that was a driver Jan 16 07:21:17 but its also what i knew Jan 16 07:21:42 coworkers are all doing their hobby stuff in eagle Jan 16 07:21:55 might be also german patriotism :) Jan 16 07:22:12 av500: i'm part german does that count? :) Jan 16 07:22:17 of course Jan 16 07:22:32 show me pics in Lederhosen and you will be allowed in Jan 16 07:22:41 geda pcb ftw Jan 16 07:23:02 * emeb_mac is > 50% german and has pix in lederhosen. doesn't use eagle tho Jan 16 07:23:15 emeb_mac: thus your are weird Jan 16 07:23:28 my last name is only thing not german about me Jan 16 07:23:48 anyway, all you need is a piece of clear sheet, a black marker and a steady hand..... Jan 16 07:23:53 mranostay: what is that last name anyway? Jan 16 07:24:08 emeb_mac: slovak... kinda :) Jan 16 07:24:11 or those rub off stencils Jan 16 07:24:17 av500: don't even need a sheet of plastic - draw right on the copper w/ sharpie Jan 16 07:24:18 it should be ranostaj Jan 16 07:24:32 but nobody got that at ellis island :) Jan 16 07:24:44 mranostay: americanization ftw. brombaugh <- brumbach Jan 16 07:25:19 i can almost bet i'm the only Matt Ranostay in the world with that spelling :) Jan 16 07:25:45 easy to google yourself Jan 16 07:26:02 yeah only me Jan 16 07:26:05 emeb_mac: no need for sharpie, use your hands to make shadows :) Jan 16 07:26:15 bunny! Jan 16 07:26:19 yep Jan 16 07:26:26 dual core, 2GHZ bunnies Jan 16 07:26:33 fine pitch Jan 16 07:26:39 just need to come up with a circuit that needs a bunny layout Jan 16 07:26:54 you know, Chuck Norris can stare burried vias into a PCB.... Jan 16 07:27:35 i wonder if its possible to convert orcad files into Eagle Jan 16 07:27:42 what happens when he stares at his breakfast? Jan 16 07:28:02 dang! buried vias in my cheerios again. Jan 16 07:28:13 :) Jan 16 07:28:22 ok, heading back home Jan 16 07:28:24 bbiab Jan 16 07:30:29 mranostay: the implant works pretty well. afaik we dont know of any software problems Jan 16 07:30:43 emeb_mac: funny thing is my grandfather had it as ranostaj on his birth cert still but went as ranostay for 60+ years :) Jan 16 07:31:32 change by default Jan 16 07:32:08 i've thought of changing back to the correct spelling Jan 16 07:32:30 basic paperwork really Jan 16 07:32:51 mrpackethead_: why would you want to convert orcad files into eagle? Jan 16 07:33:08 to save a lot of rework Jan 16 07:33:15 mrpackethead_: that's like trying to convert a quark express file into ascii text Jan 16 07:33:29 the netlists probalby are convertable Jan 16 07:33:47 can orcad just import from gerber? Jan 16 07:33:50 or an animated GIF into asciimation.... :) Jan 16 07:33:50 it'd be a bit of a mess Jan 16 07:34:28 Russ: my 386 version of orcad could read gerber, but not work with them in any usefull way iirc Jan 16 07:34:57 wonder if you could import netlists? Jan 16 07:35:00 dont know what the modern versions can do Jan 16 07:37:14 zzzzz Jan 16 07:37:43 how dare you sleep! Jan 16 07:38:58 http://www.dyndy.net/bank/ <--- Free money Jan 16 08:37:47 mag becomes super anonymous Jan 16 08:39:19 trolling assignment? Jan 16 08:41:04 Hi guys, I'm using a beagleboard xM with Ubuntu 11.10, some of my USB devices don't work and "lsusb -t" gives me http://pastebin.com/mgTW0awk Jan 16 08:41:45 the two "No such file or directory" lines are for the 2 devices that dont work Jan 16 08:42:12 any idea? Jan 16 08:42:35 check dmesg? Jan 16 08:44:48 dmesg doesn't show anything special: http://pastebin.com/EKFL9D4i Jan 16 08:46:38 what kind of devices are they? Jan 16 08:47:29 one is Adus Xtion camera, the other is ueye camera Jan 16 08:47:37 Asus Jan 16 08:49:23 do other devices work plugged in the same port? Jan 16 08:49:36 and have you tried connecting them through a powered hub? Jan 16 08:50:05 I try a usb thumb driver on the same port, it works Jan 16 08:50:38 there may not be enough power Jan 16 08:51:05 if they're two cameras I doubt it will power them both Jan 16 08:51:10 they are connected to a powered hub Jan 16 08:51:19 * panto shrugs Jan 16 08:51:32 driver problem then Jan 16 09:10:29 I'm using eclipse to write some code for my board in C, and everything is working ok -- however now I'm trying to get libusb working with it -- I'm using the 32 bit arm7 toolchain from the angstrom repo -- and when I built libusb I used "arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi" as my host, however -- when I try adding it to my project in eclipse I get http://pastebin.com/UXpieSYZ Jan 16 09:11:43 It says it's incompatible... but I mean... it should totally be compatible, since they're both using the same toolchain... right? :( Jan 16 09:11:59 are you sure that libusb cross compiled Jan 16 09:12:07 did you check the object format of the library? Jan 16 09:13:33 I can't say I have, I'm pretty new to cross compiling -- this is the config I ran when compiling it Jan 16 09:13:35 "./configure --host=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi --prefix=$HOME/Desktop/test" Jan 16 09:13:42 file /home/cykon/Desktop/test/lib/libusb-1.0.so Jan 16 09:13:56 right, what about it Jan 16 09:14:45 execute that on the command line Jan 16 09:14:49 kk Jan 16 09:15:18 "/home/cykon/Desktop/test/lib/libusb-1.0.so: symbolic link to `libusb-1.0.so.0.1.0'" Jan 16 09:15:56 …and then Jan 16 09:16:05 yeah one sec Jan 16 09:16:38 "libusb-1.0.so.0.1.0: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=0xeefe53b5e461f7c7fd91ba79ed2d00d37a31252f, not stripped" Jan 16 09:16:47 well there you go Jan 16 09:16:48 Intel... hmmmmm Jan 16 09:16:52 yeah Jan 16 09:16:53 well then Jan 16 09:17:20 hmm... I wonder why it didn't take my args Jan 16 09:17:39 read through the configure output Jan 16 09:17:47 sounds like a plan Jan 16 09:18:44 <_av500_> dm8tbr: http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/01/16/the-end-of-embedded-linux-as-we-know-it-elce-2012 Jan 16 09:19:39 av500: duuuuuuuuuh, ok. major fail of not checking previous talks. Jan 16 09:20:03 <_av500_> I missed that one too Jan 16 09:20:18 <_av500_> though I se eno shortage of "previous" talks being accepted Jan 16 09:22:52 <_av500_> wrtite it up, I guess dm8tbr will want that on openaos.org Jan 16 09:23:31 _av500_: echan ;) Jan 16 09:23:50 <_av500_> well Jan 16 09:23:54 <_av500_> you got the message Jan 16 09:23:56 <_av500_> ah no Jan 16 09:25:00 ah yes Jan 16 09:25:12 <_av500_> ah well Jan 16 09:26:00 oi, I wish the rtc section of the am335x trm was more specific Jan 16 09:26:05 'The alarm interrupt can be generated when the time set into TC ALARM registers is exactly the same as in the TC registers.' Jan 16 09:26:39 so if it 04:45:33, and you write 04:45:33, will an alarm be generated, or do you have to write 04:45:34, and wait for the second to advance Jan 16 09:27:46 koens rule #3 Jan 16 09:27:52 Russ, depends if it generates the alarm on the change or checks every time Jan 16 09:28:01 I know, it doesn't really say Jan 16 09:28:05 it's time, for SCIENCE Jan 16 09:30:22 This should be correct -- right? Jan 16 09:30:24 checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu Jan 16 09:30:25 checking host system type... arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi Jan 16 09:31:22 cykon, you need to see what gcc it chooses Jan 16 09:32:18 checking for gcc... gcc -- so I suppose the standard one that's installed Jan 16 09:32:30 http://www.int33h.com/test/mi/ Jan 16 09:32:31 Which -- shouldn't be the right one Jan 16 09:32:50 <_av500_> Russ: is the alarm leve or edge triggered? Jan 16 09:32:55 <_av500_> level* Jan 16 09:34:08 I'm not really sure Jan 16 09:34:20 I have this fun tidbit too 'Enable one interrupt when the alarm value is reached (TC ALARM2 registers) by the TC registers' Jan 16 09:34:33 its not the interrupt I'm really interested in though Jan 16 09:35:20 its a 'pmic_power_en' 'ON → OFF (Turn OFF)' 'By ALARM2 event' Jan 16 09:36:27 <_av500_> Russ: 1,2,3,GO or go ON 3? Jan 16 09:36:43 exactly Jan 16 09:36:51 I'm doing a test… Jan 16 09:38:13 reads like he's more interested in nogo Jan 16 09:39:48 I would first set alarm time then set the time to the same Jan 16 09:40:29 <_av500_> 18% of my linkedin network changed jobs Jan 16 09:40:32 otherwise the time might move forward ust ahead the set alarm time Jan 16 09:41:32 _av500_: to shepherds? Jan 16 09:41:32 _av500_: from 'archos' to 'other'? Jan 16 09:41:57 <_av500_> dm8tbr: I guess its a lot of TI people Jan 16 09:42:44 <_av500_> ah, its for 2012 in general Jan 16 09:42:48 <_av500_> not just today :) Jan 16 09:43:25 :) Jan 16 09:44:37 btw: where does it show that? Jan 16 09:45:30 or is that one of those 'pro' features? ;) Jan 16 09:45:33 Ah! So I hadn't sourced the file to enable me to use the arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc command -- I did that and it seems to be using that now, but it still lists Intel :( Jan 16 09:46:11 did you do a make clean? Jan 16 09:46:29 negative Jan 16 09:48:05 <3 Jan 16 09:48:38 gah, early signs are the check occurs at the rollover to the next second Jan 16 09:48:57 which means at best, I may have to wait nearly a whole second for the action to occur Jan 16 09:49:23 as said, try setting the time after setting the alarm time Jan 16 09:49:29 however, if the seconds count is 59, it can be a bit difficult to determine what the next second is, especially in assembly Jan 16 09:49:38 but that screws with the time Jan 16 09:50:03 but just for about how long you need to do that Jan 16 09:50:13 during each suspend Jan 16 09:53:49 it sounds like a wired way at all ;) Jan 16 09:54:04 I know, for this suspend mode, I need ALARM2 to trigger Jan 16 09:54:18 Russ, do you need to suspend immediately? Jan 16 09:54:35 why not loop for (about a second max) till you see the seconds change Jan 16 09:54:54 then you'll have a whole second to do the operation Jan 16 09:55:04 I'd have to wait up to two seconds unless I want to do crazy complex bcd calendar math in asm Jan 16 09:55:24 I think you have it a bit backwards though Jan 16 09:55:27 <_av500_> you coan only suspend via alarm??? Jan 16 09:55:31 I have to wait for the seconds register to not be 59 Jan 16 09:55:50 then add 1 to that tm and store it in alarm2 Jan 16 09:56:02 _av500_, for this suspend mode, yes Jan 16 09:56:09 <_av500_> and why this mode? Jan 16 09:56:21 maximum power savings Jan 16 09:56:50 <_av500_> ok Jan 16 09:56:56 <_av500_> so real suspend only via alarm? Jan 16 09:57:00 <_av500_> weird Jan 16 09:57:07 I can do other suspend states with the m3 Jan 16 09:58:04 Russ: you have to set the time after alarm time for immediate suspend otherwise the following might happen: read time - (time advances) - set alarm time (a race condition) Jan 16 09:58:43 aholler, if it would suspend on alarm == time, it isn't a problem Jan 16 09:58:50 it is Jan 16 09:58:50 if you set it, then don't suspend, you just do it again Jan 16 09:59:24 ah, ok, workaround ;) Jan 16 10:02:24 <_av500_> its called a scheme :) Jan 16 10:03:19 ust setting that alarm-bit isn't possible? Jan 16 10:05:02 hmm Jan 16 10:05:05 let me look into that Jan 16 10:05:54 writing 1 clears the interrupt Jan 16 10:10:00 <_av500_> here is a guy that makes Nixie tubes: http://www.youtube.com/user/glasslinger Jan 16 10:16:07