**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 05 02:59:59 2013 Feb 05 03:46:37 any genius'es here Feb 05 03:46:53 who can help me out with a question on the PWM stuff Feb 05 03:48:43 i play one on IRC Feb 05 03:52:46 Beagle Genius, wrong bar Feb 05 03:55:52 the genius at the apple-store did'nt have any idea. Feb 05 03:55:53 :-) Feb 05 04:00:02 those guys barely know macs sometimes Feb 05 04:01:57 you need a degree to a be an Apple Genius? Feb 05 04:12:04 and they don't have beer. What kind of lousy bar doesn't have beer? Feb 05 04:37:36 coldsoup|work: bars in barcelona? Feb 05 04:41:45 * mranostay talks to mirror Feb 05 04:43:39 prpplague: updating the elinux page a bit Feb 05 04:43:52 mranostay: dandy Feb 05 04:44:28 mranostay: let me know what you need on the cards, a tinyurl with your resume would be good Feb 05 04:46:30 koen: circuitco have a booth this year? Feb 05 04:48:25 mranostay: i think they ordered either a beagle or octopus costume for koen to wear at the booth, not sure which Feb 05 04:48:44 heh Feb 05 04:49:23 what is prpplague's email anyway? Feb 05 04:50:26 dave@youratbastard.com Feb 05 04:50:42 or plague@pimpmaster.net Feb 05 04:52:13 the sad thing is one of those is registered :) Feb 05 04:52:18 mranostay: and if you are a friend you can reach me at allyourbeersaremine@ti.com Feb 05 04:52:40 *cough* Feb 05 04:52:51 heh a friend on mine has beer.org Feb 05 04:52:51 mranostay: i commented to mdp today Feb 05 04:53:15 sorry beeronline.org Feb 05 04:53:21 mranostay: there seems to be an Ashley S. Holes that has a TI address Feb 05 04:53:35 mranostay: asholes@ti.com Feb 05 04:53:51 hehe Feb 05 04:54:19 are emails assigned at TI? Feb 05 04:54:19 please don't ask me how i found that out Feb 05 04:54:41 that seems like a HR issue if it was Feb 05 04:54:57 * prpplague has no comment Feb 05 04:55:20 what was wrong with firstname.lastname@domain.tld Feb 05 04:55:33 better than FSL's personal employee number one Feb 05 04:55:48 nothing like emailing es123455@fsl.com Feb 05 04:56:05 i used to be AFW647@namelessgovernmentagency.govt.nz Feb 05 04:56:12 a0220770@ti.com Feb 05 04:56:29 as long as isn't my social security number i couldn't really care Feb 05 04:56:44 hehe Feb 05 04:57:49 i loved my first crappy job you had to enter your SSN to clock in and out... Feb 05 04:59:26 even at 17 i knew that was a bad idea :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 05 05:35:20 2013 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 05 06:02:19 2013 Feb 05 06:03:48 is there a linux-arm channel? if not, anyone know what is the min number of ATAGs that needs to be setup? Feb 05 06:07:29 ATAGs? Feb 05 06:07:46 mranostay: ATAGs? Feb 05 06:08:08 ARM bootloader info Feb 05 06:16:49 aren't ATAGs going away? Feb 05 07:27:25 is there a node.js type image for the xM and original Bboard too? Feb 05 07:27:36 (or am I so fixated on the 'Bone) Feb 05 07:31:36 ka6sox-away: you mean the cloud9 crap? Feb 05 07:34:51 that stuffa Feb 05 07:35:49 * Russ file:/// Feb 05 07:36:01 * Russ or is it File:/// Feb 05 07:37:12 trying to troll the mac os mtn lion users? Feb 05 07:37:20 yup Feb 05 07:37:31 makes me wonder what other injection attacks there are Feb 05 07:39:42 ka6sox-away: just opkg install it Feb 05 07:41:17 koen, ya... Feb 05 07:41:29 have to try the other FPGA board for the Beagle Feb 05 07:53:10 file:///// Feb 05 08:05:22 JIHAD! Feb 05 08:06:29 morning gazpacho Feb 05 08:06:41 yeah i'm not having a jihad Feb 05 08:06:44 * mranostay sleeps Feb 05 08:07:02 * ka6sox-away bangs pots and pans outside mranostay's apt. Feb 05 08:08:05 * mranostay loads the .357 Feb 05 08:11:02 KotH: they let you have a gun? :) Feb 05 08:15:00 mranostay: ofc Feb 05 08:15:29 mranostay: every good swiss citizen has a full automatic assault rifle, a couple of hand granades and an RPG at home Feb 05 08:17:35 and that kids, is why nobody ever messes with the swiss... Feb 05 08:18:40 as a usian friend put it so nicely a couple of years ago: neutral but heavily armed Feb 05 08:20:29 mru: send urls for thoese g+ challenged :) Feb 05 08:33:04 KotH: you also don't have a highly disfunctional society, with vast divides between rich and poor Feb 05 08:33:57 anybody doing automated testing of builds on the beagle? I wonder how they put the image on the SD card( u-boot DFU, u-boot network boot, linux gadget mass storage?) Feb 05 08:34:30 yes Feb 05 08:36:40 mrpackethead: yes as answer to my question? Feb 05 08:37:04 yes. someone will be testing it Feb 05 08:37:18 someone is testing almost everything Feb 05 08:38:13 I mean I have build (of MINIX) and I want to put them on the beagle when building the thing with jenkins. Feb 05 08:38:24 keesj: the loading of SD cards isn't automated yet over here Feb 05 08:38:29 keesj: I should hire an intern :) Feb 05 08:39:22 I have so many option to choose from. Feb 05 08:40:22 I do have the reset and serial connected so I can do most things. uploading a MMC exporting kernel via JTAG is also an option Feb 05 08:40:29 for kernel testing I use tftp in uboot Feb 05 08:40:47 recent uboots can write to SD *and* can load images larger than RAM over usb Feb 05 08:40:59 yes for the kernel (my dev setup does that) Feb 05 08:41:38 using DFU or some tftp options? Feb 05 08:41:42 brb Feb 05 08:41:50 DFU Feb 05 08:42:12 tftp still requieres a load address Feb 05 08:43:46 mrpackethead: our society might not be higly dysfunctional, but there are huge devides between rich an poor, and not everything works as it should Feb 05 08:46:31 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality Feb 05 08:49:32 mrpackethead: argument accepted :) Feb 05 08:51:45 if youa re on the bleeding edge... Feb 05 08:52:33 * KotH is on the coughing edge Feb 05 09:14:40 <_av500_> lol Feb 05 09:14:41 <_av500_> me too Feb 05 09:15:09 * dm8tbr is fine Feb 05 09:15:51 koen: I stated enabling DFU in u-boot (mainline) I will continue in that direction Feb 05 09:46:37 morning Feb 05 10:00:50 XorA: moinmoin Feb 05 10:01:45 LetoThe2nd: I know what you look like now :-D Feb 05 10:02:08 hrhr Feb 05 10:02:30 XorA: i consider that a threat, bu i can say the same about you ;) Feb 05 10:03:14 * XorA disguises himself in Windows 8 t-shirts Feb 05 10:05:43 * LetoThe2nd sends his feydaikin Feb 05 10:09:59 I have an ARM dstream with me. I want to use it with beagleboard xM. Is there a need for boot to happen i.e. valid image in SD card to work with JTAG? Feb 05 10:10:46 interesting how that was a pandaboard question just 30seconds ago ;) Feb 05 10:11:09 well I have both boards Feb 05 10:11:29 gm Feb 05 10:12:28 i don't know if the omaps can be made to run stuff directly from ram to which you could inject through jtag. Feb 05 10:12:41 (TRM would know, so look it up) Feb 05 10:13:09 Okay . TRM of OMAPs right? Feb 05 10:13:57 would be my first guess, yes. Feb 05 10:14:34 maybe they can even stop right after hardware reset and then be pointed to some MLO in ram, it's not unheard of. Feb 05 10:14:37 LetoThe2nd: you do realize that xora lives on an island in the sea, right? Feb 05 10:14:39 bb__: code composer studio knows how to initialize the hardware and does not really need u-boot. Feb 05 10:14:48 LetoThe2nd: that is deadly to the spirit of a fedaykin Feb 05 10:14:59 LetoThe2nd: ask Otheum Feb 05 10:15:09 indeed the "easy" thing to do it to not boot past u-boot Feb 05 10:15:22 bb__: but again, the manuals of omap and your jtag should know. Feb 05 10:15:27 koen: indeed. Feb 05 10:15:44 koen: thanks for the hint, i will be better off sending fishspeakers ;) Feb 05 10:15:47 LetoThe2nd: try sending fish speakers Feb 05 10:15:51 <_av500_> hint: GEL files Feb 05 10:15:51 \o/ Feb 05 10:15:53 *jinx* Feb 05 10:16:14 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardOpenOCD#GDB_ARM might also be of interest Feb 05 10:16:47 koen: great minds, alike and such. Feb 05 10:17:22 * XorA hoards his thinking machines stash! Feb 05 10:17:47 * LetoThe2nd likes thinking machines. Feb 05 10:18:01 i even got some to transcribe my thoughts, you know. Feb 05 10:33:25 <_av500_> wow, a koen rant Feb 05 10:37:55 koen, someone pissed in your cereal this morning? :) Feb 05 10:41:10 <_av500_> I dont get autotools, why do I need to auto the auto if everything is supposed to be auto(matic)? Feb 05 10:42:50 Is an automobile then an oxymoron? Feb 05 10:44:07 not if you see the driver as an integral and inseperable part of it Feb 05 10:44:15 goodmorning Feb 05 10:47:32 <_av500_> maybe auto in tools is like democratic in a country name Feb 05 10:49:58 panto: I haven't had breakfast yet, so I'm cranky due to low blood sugar Feb 05 10:50:21 <_av500_> have some waflles Feb 05 10:50:45 koen, it's almost lunch time, burning the midnight oil? Feb 05 10:51:11 no, I lack the motivation to make breakfast Feb 05 10:51:15 post FOSDEM cold Feb 05 10:52:02 poor guy Feb 05 11:00:08 ah, so I thought it was a thunderstorm here this night, but it was Koen being grumphy... Feb 05 11:00:47 koen: oh... av500 got you hooked up with some nice little creatures as well Feb 05 11:12:34 Hm, does anyone here know how does kickstarter work (or has some experience with it)? Particulary I would like to know, if I would get some kind of invoice for the payment made. Feb 05 11:16:10 ynezz: not really Feb 05 11:16:17 ynezz: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/images/ks.png Feb 05 11:16:36 hmpf, bummer Feb 05 11:16:58 <_av500_> ynezz: use a cayman trust Feb 05 11:17:05 but it must be some legal entity, since it's quite a lot of money there... Feb 05 11:17:25 ynezz: it uses amazon as backend Feb 05 11:18:19 ynezz: keep in mind that both KS and amazon are very US focussed Feb 05 11:18:33 so your 'payment' might not get accepted Feb 05 11:18:48 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1085541682/bladerf-usb-30-software-defined-radio Feb 05 11:18:55 which is why indiegogo is so poopular outside the US Feb 05 11:18:58 there's "Add $15 for int. shipping" Feb 05 11:19:10 so I assume, that it's international Feb 05 11:20:37 well, read the small print :) Feb 05 11:20:50 the 'inventors' are happy to send you the bladerf Feb 05 11:21:00 <_av500_> bladder? Feb 05 11:21:05 amazon might bounce your payment for being foreign Feb 05 11:21:36 they changed the rules a few months ago, I haven't backed anything in that time, so I can't say for sure Feb 05 11:22:11 anyway thanks Feb 05 11:25:35 oh, I've missed that note about #bladerf IRC channel :P Feb 05 11:59:00 I am still only experimenting with the DVBT dongles (e.g. capture only) Feb 05 12:05:30 keesj: trying to build an SDR beagle? Feb 05 12:08:04 I was indeed tempted. Feb 05 12:08:47 I also ported the rdl-sdr stuff to my Galaxy SII in the hope I could spend some quality time during my holiday :p Feb 05 12:09:18 on holidays, i would rather spend some quality time with people i like than with some weird gadget ;) Feb 05 12:09:39 that's what I endded up doing . but it was not intentional Feb 05 12:10:05 walking around the city looking for strange signals sounds fun Feb 05 12:10:30 tin foil hat? Feb 05 12:11:24 KotH: https://plus.google.com/photos/101083367758063442977/albums/5841243477784505553 Feb 05 12:11:26 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.v1al&hl=en (Android app that can connect to a server) Feb 05 12:19:46 keesj: unfortunately for my purposes the rtl-sdr has low bandwith, but it's certainly amazing bang for the bucks Feb 05 12:20:25 * KotH feels watched Feb 05 12:21:26 at least the pictures are not too bad Feb 05 12:21:55 * mru does not post bad pics Feb 05 12:22:41 ynezz: for now it greatly helped me in understanding how it all works (and if I have the skilzzzz required). balint's gnuradio tutorial series where also nice http://www.youtube.com/playlist?feature=g-user-u&list=PL618122BD66C8B3C4 . the bone might be a nice base station Feb 05 12:23:02 oh, since when has mru the iphone? Feb 05 12:23:25 ynezz: I don't Feb 05 12:23:28 never have, never will Feb 05 12:23:40 the exifs says so :( Feb 05 12:24:12 they say canon 7d here Feb 05 12:26:35 ynezz: how can you insult mru so severely?!? Feb 05 12:26:48 that's not an insult Feb 05 12:26:53 it's too implausible Feb 05 12:30:47 well Feb 05 12:31:03 the plausible explanation: FATE test client Feb 05 12:31:18 I wouldn't be the one doing that Feb 05 12:31:36 even going near apple stuff gives me a bad rash Feb 05 12:32:00 a rashberry pi ? Feb 05 12:34:04 <_av500_> iRash Feb 05 12:34:26 <_av500_> koen: the $25 rpi is it a $35-rpi killer? Feb 05 12:38:05 KotH: it simply looked like from the iphone and I've checked the exif on one photo, and guess what... Feb 05 12:38:18 KotH: he simply forget to replace the exif on that one Feb 05 12:48:45 libreoffice fosdem presentation slide 15: translating german comment into english: 20kloc done, 20kloc to go Feb 05 12:50:38 damn it, I am catchin gthe FOSDEM lurgi Feb 05 12:58:36 koen: lol Feb 05 12:58:44 koen: still so much left from stardivision? Feb 05 13:12:16 KotH: apperently Feb 05 13:15:51 koen: are the slides for the talks already online? Feb 05 13:24:06 some of them Feb 05 13:24:25 the ones that are online are on the author's websites Feb 05 13:25:27 ok Feb 05 13:25:37 * KotH has a head ache Feb 05 13:25:40 * KotH blames av500 Feb 05 13:29:32 KotH, shouldn't you blame the greek guy instead? Feb 05 13:29:50 no, this time it was the serbs! Feb 05 13:29:58 almost the same thing! :P Feb 05 13:40:39 so, suggestions, what do you think the best way to accept input to a driver would be if I needed to pass it a register number, and two 8 bit numbers Feb 05 13:41:03 it currently has dev nodes, and I read from them, so could also write to them Feb 05 13:41:22 I used ioctls in my old driver, but they always feel a bit messy Feb 05 13:41:45 however writing regnum,num1,num2 and splitting on commas would also be pretty disgusting Feb 05 13:42:31 first of all thing if there's any other higher level abstraction in the kernel that might work instead of raw register numbers Feb 05 13:42:37 *thing=think Feb 05 13:42:55 i.e., something like iio or hwmon or anything like that Feb 05 13:43:15 if you're doing something completely custom, just go with a sysfs file Feb 05 13:43:23 (and you don't care about speed) Feb 05 13:43:32 if you do care about speed, things can get complicated Feb 05 13:43:35 yes, it's a custom asic Feb 05 13:43:44 speed, not massively important Feb 05 13:43:56 sub 5ms would be perfectly acceptable Feb 05 13:43:57 go with a sysfs attribute file then Feb 05 13:44:37 try to see if you can use a somewhat better abstraction that raw register numbers if possible Feb 05 13:44:44 ok will do some research, thanks again panto, the driver is really coming together now and is looking good Feb 05 13:44:53 * panto bows Feb 05 13:45:36 note that sysfs is much faster than 5ms Feb 05 13:45:54 yeah the raw registers are abstracted in the application, there are too many to do it in kernel and the driver is "multi-driver" for multiple cards with different amounts of registers Feb 05 13:45:55 the problem with sysfs file is that you can't pump too much data easily Feb 05 13:46:09 yes, i'm not pumping mass amounts of data through Feb 05 13:46:14 you'll be fine then Feb 05 13:46:23 just config changes, which are few and far between Feb 05 13:47:39 if it's config only you could try to put them in the DT file Feb 05 13:48:02 i.e. config = <0x10 0x00>, <0x11, 0xfe>, ... Feb 05 13:48:47 yeah it's a bit more convoluted unfortunately Feb 05 13:49:01 although I wish it wasn't, it's how it is Feb 05 13:49:43 I'm sure that it's going to be more easier if you did came up with a way to use DT for that Feb 05 13:49:59 that's what it was designed to do after all Feb 05 13:56:29 well, as an example I have ~50 16 bit registers, which have single bits all meaning different things, so that's potentially (50*16) entries - which I need to be able to modify from within my application Feb 05 13:58:43 so the configuration is dynamically set and changed while it's running, if I were to have devicetree entries for them how would I then expose them, sysfs files for each entry? or something else? Feb 05 13:59:44 sounds like thats ideal for sysfs Feb 05 14:00:36 so I would have a sysfs file for each configuration? Feb 05 14:00:47 sysfs file per register Feb 05 14:00:51 with get/sets Feb 05 14:01:04 ok, I'm going to read more about the capabilities of sysfs first Feb 05 14:01:10 before I embarrass myself Feb 05 14:01:20 sysfs is supposed to be one file one value type Feb 05 14:01:28 ok Feb 05 14:01:50 why debugfs was invented so dump register dumps and such like Feb 05 14:49:31 ah man, that bit of research on sysfs has blown my mind Feb 05 14:51:08 * XorA gets the superglue ready Feb 05 14:51:39 reading about the uevents started popping some mad ideas into my head Feb 05 14:52:01 and suddenly made possible previously dismissed mad ideas possible again Feb 05 14:54:52 mranostay: HIDE! Feb 05 15:59:33 mru: what am i'm hiding from? Feb 05 15:59:44 ok, reading about sysfs I have come to a question Feb 05 15:59:57 mranostay: from kkeller of course Feb 05 16:00:18 I stalk him on other channels too :D Feb 05 16:00:19 I currently expose my fpga data, which comes in batches once a second, every second through /dev/fpga Feb 05 16:00:51 to get the data, you can do a read which blocks until the next set of data is available (in the form of a queue) Feb 05 16:01:14 if the userspace is slow to react, then it will buffer data until userspace catches up Feb 05 16:01:26 this way you don't lose any data until the queue is completely full Feb 05 16:01:34 something involving mmap would seem like a better solution Feb 05 16:01:57 how would you represent the queue style data buffer with mmap? Feb 05 16:02:06 * mru points at v4l2 Feb 05 16:02:21 * jackmitchell plods off to google Feb 05 16:07:29 kkeller: be careful, mranostay wields creeper cards Feb 05 16:10:34 that is an understatement ! Feb 05 16:11:34 mranostay, the grim creeper? Feb 05 16:11:41 mranostay, the grim creeper?] Feb 05 16:12:10 Yesterday's omap3 endeavours were not successful. Feb 05 16:12:53 Although to be fair, that's what I get for being too lazy to set up ice. Feb 05 16:47:15 uh oh ka6sox is here Feb 05 16:47:52 jsabeaudry, you here? Feb 05 16:48:02 mranostay, ssssssh...still waking up. Feb 05 16:48:38 ka6sox: HEY WAKE UP! Feb 05 16:49:12 * ka6sox spills Hot Coffee on mranostay Feb 05 16:50:08 why is that in caps? Feb 05 16:50:44 <_av500_> jackmitchell: what mru means is you could mmap a couple of buffers for your driver Feb 05 16:50:59 <_av500_> then you could submit them to be filled and retrieve them once they are Feb 05 16:51:15 <_av500_> of course assuming you have something like a fixed buffer size Feb 05 16:51:52 <_av500_> much like the QBUF and DQBUF ioctls in v4l2 Feb 05 16:53:03 yo prpplague Feb 05 16:53:13 it's purple!! Feb 05 16:53:15 XorA: hey bud Feb 05 16:53:53 <_av500_> it's a plague!! Feb 05 16:53:54 my eyes are bleeding from the all the purple Feb 05 16:54:07 <_av500_> mranostay: upgraded your VT100? Feb 05 16:54:07 prpplague: I may have had a beer or two! Feb 05 16:54:17 hehe Feb 05 16:54:46 i am more blue than purple these days :( Feb 05 16:55:27 * XorA stuffs prpplague in the machine with some dylon! Feb 05 16:55:47 everyone give prpplague a hug Feb 05 16:55:53 hehe Feb 05 16:59:44 i am beginning to think my purple tie is scaring the interviewers Feb 05 17:00:33 do you want to work at place that doesn't allow purple? Feb 05 17:02:17 indeed Feb 05 17:03:24 _av500_: yes I had a little look and it may be something I will come back to, but for now I'm happy with my streamed read Feb 05 17:03:53 _av500_: I'm trying to figure out how to do the writes properly and then at a later date I may re-visit and do a v3 Feb 05 17:04:11 <_av500_> sure Feb 05 17:04:24 I'm still investigating the best way to write 3 values to a driver, without a ioctl Feb 05 17:04:42 <_av500_> why not ioctl? Feb 05 17:04:55 <_av500_> if you do read/write from a program anyway Feb 05 17:05:01 <_av500_> you can as well ioctl Feb 05 17:05:05 I used ioctls before and it felt a bit hacky, everyone is raving about sysfs so I was seeing if it was possible for this purpose Feb 05 17:05:13 <_av500_> ?? Feb 05 17:05:25 <_av500_> I dont see why that is hacky Feb 05 17:05:36 <_av500_> as IOCTL says, it CTRLs the IO Feb 05 17:05:44 <_av500_> your io is read/write Feb 05 17:05:48 <_av500_> and you control it Feb 05 17:05:48 ioctls are still a valid kernel interface, I always get the feeling they;re being phasd out Feb 05 17:05:56 <_av500_> er? Feb 05 17:06:10 <_av500_> ioctly are bound to a driver instance Feb 05 17:06:15 <_av500_> how do you do that from sysfs? Feb 05 17:06:21 <_av500_> ioctls* Feb 05 17:06:29 if I'm being daft and listening to too much hype then I'll get on and use them Feb 05 17:06:30 _av500_: ioctls are unethical Feb 05 17:06:55 <_av500_> so are drone strikes Feb 05 17:07:03 whut?!? Feb 05 17:07:31 <_av500_> mdp: did I miss a memo wrt ioctls? Feb 05 17:07:43 they are replaced by systemd Feb 05 17:08:28 <_av500_> ioctld Feb 05 17:09:00 _av500_: blast from the past: http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/ioctl.html Feb 05 17:09:03 does systemd have an email client yet? Feb 05 17:10:00 <_av500_> mdp: the last line says it all: "Let's not take this too far, though." Feb 05 17:10:17 <_av500_> mranostay: working on it Feb 05 17:10:19 I can assure you..that was forgotten ;) Feb 05 17:10:22 <_av500_> first it needs glib Feb 05 17:10:42 prpplague: btw nobody wears a suit for a job interview out here :) Feb 05 17:11:17 dressing up for an interview for me is a polo :) Feb 05 17:11:54 dressing up for me is wearing a t-shirt I paid for Feb 05 17:13:17 mru: +! Feb 05 17:13:20 *+1 Feb 05 17:17:16 mdp: so, if you had to pass 3 related values to a kernel driver, what would be your preferred method? Feb 05 17:17:36 ioctl(struct foo) Feb 05 17:18:08 jackmitchell: you confuse me with somebody that cares about the things I cite ;) Feb 05 17:18:26 I find it mostly to be semantics Feb 05 17:18:29 hah, ok. IOCTL's it is Feb 05 17:18:42 the only other method I can think of is 3 sysfs files and a sync file Feb 05 17:18:46 sounds like a wise choice Feb 05 17:19:04 although unethical ;) Feb 05 17:19:40 yes, parsing my registers in userspace is too, but I've come to live with that Feb 05 17:19:42 you probably cross compile without concern for the children too Feb 05 17:20:50 I cross compile all day long; no issues with the kittens lost Feb 05 17:21:47 mranostay: yea i noticed that Feb 05 17:23:08 jackmitchell: well, they've been citing you on our local news as the cause of several puppies dying Feb 05 17:23:13 I cannot condone your actions Feb 05 17:29:07 linux4sam seems to be popular on g+ today Feb 05 17:35:11 linux4unclesam? Feb 05 17:37:42 yes, it wants *you* Feb 05 17:38:53 joho Feb 05 17:53:29 heh Feb 05 18:03:00 Hi to all, my beaglebone just stopped working. Its led flashes once but thats all i get. Can someone help me find a quick solution to this problem? Feb 05 18:04:03 heh Feb 05 18:04:08 SD card in? Feb 05 18:07:10 Hi to all, my beaglebone just stopped working. Its led flashes once but thats all i get. Can someone help me find a quick solution to this problem? Feb 05 18:07:18 and yes sd card is inserted Feb 05 18:08:21 are you connected to the serial port of the board? Feb 05 18:08:32 how are you powering the board? Feb 05 18:08:57 by giving it 5v from dc source Feb 05 18:09:43 by giving it 5v from dc source Feb 05 18:09:54 yes don't repeat :) Feb 05 18:11:12 did you measure that 5v to verify it is 5v? Feb 05 18:11:38 and did you verify the meter by measuring something else that's 5V? Feb 05 18:11:42 and so on Feb 05 18:11:50 :) Feb 05 18:12:02 and where is my pizza? Feb 05 18:12:08 18:08:21< dm8tbr> are you connected to the serial port of the board? Feb 05 18:12:09 yes ofcourse ... Feb 05 18:12:31 djlewis: you'll have to bitbang it Feb 05 18:13:29 hot bitbanging action Feb 05 18:14:10 i dont get bitbang Feb 05 18:14:31 my bits are getting stuck in the cheese Feb 05 18:14:34 Taimur: 18:12:08< dm8tbr> 18:08:21< dm8tbr> are you connected to the serial port of the board? Feb 05 18:14:48 heh Feb 05 18:15:56 not connected to serial port Feb 05 18:17:25 oh man, "The Ethics of Bitbanging" Feb 05 18:17:26 hrm Feb 05 18:17:31 missed opportunity on that one Feb 05 18:18:07 * dm8tbr has a business idea: bangwithbits Feb 05 18:18:29 i was trying to run bldc motor by l6236 IC, after sometime beaglebone just stopped responding. made sure that encoder pulses generated were not more than 3.3v by placing a zenor. Feb 05 18:19:03 mdp: as speakers i think we are breaking a few rules Feb 05 18:19:45 I consider creeper cards to be rewards Feb 05 18:19:50 * mdp crafts slides accordingly Feb 05 18:21:09 what's prohibited, bitbanging or exact steps? Feb 05 18:38:36 Taimur: you may have gotten some voltage / current feedback for the motor Feb 05 18:38:49 s/for/from Feb 05 18:39:11 evil reactive loads Feb 05 18:39:24 yess, evil indeed Feb 05 18:40:09 * djlewis uses optical isolation to drive and monitor motors Feb 05 18:53:14 well it seems a bit lengthy task to isolate 16 pins; can bb still work since it not completely dead i.e power led flashes once Feb 05 18:54:04 heh well that doesn't mean it isn't dead :) Feb 05 18:54:23 it's undead Feb 05 18:54:25 run Feb 05 19:00:15 :D Feb 05 19:01:03 so what to do now? Feb 05 19:02:20 doesnt the next step require a chicken? Feb 05 19:02:46 you think that's enough? Feb 05 19:03:06 sometimes it's quicker to skip directly to goat Feb 05 19:03:18 this may be that case Feb 05 19:04:22 * djlewis goes looking for candles Feb 05 19:11:11 dinner Feb 05 19:13:57 so what should i do with undead beaglebone? Feb 05 19:14:10 * bradfa got his load average down from > 100 to about 1.5 with same functionality Feb 05 19:14:12 * bradfa is happy now Feb 05 19:14:30 bradfa: what did you do? kill pulseaudio? Feb 05 19:14:37 bradfa, reboot? Feb 05 19:15:00 well, it just crashed, so I was excited a bit early... Feb 05 19:15:09 bradfa: turned it off? Feb 05 19:15:10 but good guesses :) Feb 05 19:15:18 quit using Cloud9 and Eclipse for devel Feb 05 19:15:29 multi threading, now we have pr 8 le. s Feb 05 19:15:56 mdp, eclipse would be faster than something? Feb 05 19:16:28 er Feb 05 19:16:33 reading isn't my strong point Feb 05 19:16:38 code apparently isn't either Feb 05 19:18:18 it's probably not a good thing that syslog is growing by MB every few seconds... Feb 05 19:18:21 logging! Feb 05 19:20:13 rsyslog using >30% cpu, ftw Feb 05 19:26:35 bradfa, is your intern involved here somehow? Feb 05 19:30:18 sadly, no Feb 05 19:30:20 just me Feb 05 19:30:29 I was an intern, once Feb 05 19:30:56 spawning a thread every 1.5 ms in order to do libcurl operations makes quite a high load :) Feb 05 19:31:27 hence, libcurl people made the multi interface Feb 05 19:31:38 so now I use the multi Feb 05 19:31:47 voila! reasonable loads Feb 05 19:59:05 <_av500_> just use journald Feb 05 20:00:38 hehe Feb 05 20:00:48 av500 on lennart trip Feb 05 20:01:13 is that a drug now? Feb 05 20:01:45 hasn't it always been? Feb 05 20:01:58 good night Feb 05 20:35:58 bradfa: new interns for abuse? Feb 05 20:36:09 no, still have same one Feb 05 20:36:17 they're "coops" from RIT Feb 05 20:36:21 so they stay for a few months Feb 05 20:36:40 <_av500_> bradfa: are you downloading the internet? Feb 05 20:36:48 <_av500_> for later reading? Feb 05 20:37:08 bradfa: last legal form of slavery :) Feb 05 20:37:36 mranostay, you wouldn't think that if you saw out IBM co-op paychecks ;) Feb 05 20:37:41 s/out/our/ Feb 05 20:41:43 hello - has anyone successfully gotten the McSPI controller to be clocked by an external clock (slave mode?) I need a SPI clock rate that is not a multiple of 48mhz (40mhz) and was wondering if anyone has been successful doing something similar Feb 05 20:42:01 glorious bejeebers! booted omap3-beagle from mainline without asking for exact steps Feb 05 20:42:17 heh Feb 05 20:46:54 _av500_, more like uploading the internet, all curl opts are POST Feb 05 20:54:23 <_av500_> oh Feb 05 20:54:32 <_av500_> trying to fill up your MEGA account? Feb 05 20:55:13 I tried to store _all_ the random numbers in mine but they wouldn't fit Feb 05 20:55:22 useless service Feb 05 20:58:02 you could store banged(up) bits there as well Feb 05 21:30:37 @av500, thats an interesting theory.. fill up MEGA with trash Feb 05 21:30:49 and hopefully we could get rid of Dotcom Feb 05 21:30:53 hes a scammer. Feb 05 21:31:02 <_av500_> he is a fine troll Feb 05 21:31:10 i'd send him to the USA today if i had a chance. Feb 05 21:31:26 <_av500_> scammed who? Feb 05 21:31:45 he has multiple convictions for insider trading Feb 05 21:31:46 megaupload links sure were annoying Feb 05 21:32:11 mrpackethead: that's how everybody makes money on the stock market Feb 05 21:32:20 hes profited by allowing people to breech copyright Feb 05 21:32:22 the unlucky ones get caught Feb 05 21:32:46 so have the ISPs Feb 05 21:32:52 you can argue the merits of the law, but hes an unethtial ... Feb 05 21:33:07 yes, indeed, many people have Feb 05 21:33:33 the ones who get caught are no worse than those who do not Feb 05 21:33:45 that does'nt make it right Feb 05 21:37:06 maybe copyright is wrong Feb 05 21:37:07