**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 12 02:59:58 2013 Mar 12 03:07:40 yes, 4pr Mar 12 03:07:49 ie, all the pairs in a cat5 Mar 12 03:07:57 thats not very dd at all Mar 12 03:08:19 they seem like hens teeth. Mar 12 03:09:59 http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=File:RJ45Module.jpg Mar 12 03:10:09 just the bit in picture! Mar 12 04:59:17 <_av500_> morningers Mar 12 05:12:06 * mranostay hurls a beer bottle at _av500_ Mar 12 05:12:17 is it a budweiser bottle? Mar 12 05:12:24 Beck's Mar 12 05:25:51 <_av500_> eek Mar 12 05:25:59 <_av500_> why the hate? Mar 12 05:33:07 * mranostay thinks of a witty title Mar 12 05:34:08 "Using Logic to Debug Logic" Mar 12 05:34:18 _av500_: witty or not? :P Mar 12 05:38:00 gahh Mar 12 07:19:35 Any of you tested qt5 on a beagle*? The meta-qt5 layer isn't entirely done, and has no sdk recipe yet. Working on that, but I wondered if there is a faster/hackier way to add qt5 to my rootfs for testing purposes. Mar 12 07:21:10 tasslehoff, iirc there is a branch of meta-webos that is using that. Mar 12 07:28:49 ka6sox-away: you mean using the meta-qt5 layer? anyway I suspect JaMa would know :) Mar 12 08:19:04 tasslehoff, he would indeed. Mar 12 08:35:14 ok, sorry for the delay, here is the log of the boot: http://pastebin.com/bdD17U0t Mar 12 08:36:18 after it spits out that last line, it just sits there Mar 12 08:36:25 any suggestions would be welcome Mar 12 08:38:10 just a reminder, I'm running a beagleboard xm with a 4gb sd card, kernel and everything taken from here: http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ Mar 12 08:38:55 and I've modified the uEnv.txt to have the line: console=ttyS2,115200n8 Mar 12 08:50:21 https://getmyo.com/ - anyone thought about this? Mar 12 08:54:47 abetusk_w: which rootfs did you use? Mar 12 08:55:05 abetusk_w: can you give http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/Angstrom-systemd-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2 a try? Mar 12 08:55:41 moaning Mar 12 08:59:24 koen, I used the first in that link, " Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2011.1-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2" Mar 12 09:00:06 I'll give the one you linked to a try. All I need to do is wipe out the old one and unpack the new one, right? No need to go through the whole make card thing again? Mar 12 09:09:03 morning Mar 12 09:21:24 abetusk_w: you only need to wipe out the second partition Mar 12 09:26:50 koen, it just hangs on 'Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.' Mar 12 09:27:03 * mru suggests earlyprintk Mar 12 09:27:49 dm8tbr: nice Mar 12 09:28:12 * dm8tbr ponders :) Mar 12 09:28:15 abetusk_w: you need to change the console again Mar 12 09:28:46 if it does have some recent kernel, your ttyS2 console won't work Mar 12 09:29:11 ah, ok, what should it be? Mar 12 09:29:12 S0? Mar 12 09:29:26 it's Linux, they're not trying to break userspace ABI, but they break everything else quite often :) Mar 12 09:29:55 old kernel: ttyS2 Mar 12 09:29:59 new kernel: ttyO2 Mar 12 09:30:15 as in 'oh', right? Mar 12 09:30:23 as in omap Mar 12 09:34:13 hmm, still no kernel messages. this is my uEnv.txt: Mar 12 09:34:27 console=ttyO2,115200n8 Mar 12 09:37:32 O0 Mar 12 09:37:50 for bone Mar 12 09:37:51 no? Mar 12 09:37:56 it's XM Mar 12 09:38:06 oh Mar 12 09:38:09 av500: 2.6.32 doesn't work on bone Mar 12 10:04:33 ok, for those who suggested using interfaces for networking yesterday, is there a standard way to manipulate the interfaces file? Mar 12 10:04:43 vi Mar 12 10:04:46 the most sane way I can think at the moment is: Mar 12 10:04:53 app sets new address (dhcp/manual) Mar 12 10:05:10 /etc/network/interfaces is an ifupdown thing Mar 12 10:05:15 for networking, using a network interface is indeed a good idea Mar 12 10:05:19 then writes brand new interface file, rather than trying to manipulate the current one Mar 12 10:05:39 whoever called it "built into linux" should be beaten Mar 12 10:05:40 * mru never liked ifup/down Mar 12 10:05:58 yes, I'm trying to find a simple network manager that I can manipulate from within a C application Mar 12 10:06:25 use netlink Mar 12 10:06:50 is that a direct interface to the kernel networking? Mar 12 10:06:55 yes Mar 12 10:07:06 look at the connman sources, it's a thin wrapper around netlink Mar 12 10:07:17 with a big dbus binding on top :) Mar 12 10:07:20 or read the kernel docs directly Mar 12 10:07:27 but that would be too easy I guess Mar 12 10:07:30 ::effort:: Mar 12 10:07:54 I just don't want to re-invent the wheel Mar 12 10:08:11 jackmitchell: pick a color first! Mar 12 10:08:25 connman did 80% of what I wanted but I didn't like dbus and the glib dependancy Mar 12 10:09:34 if I'm managing with netlink, then I'm going to be keeping custom network files and writing scripts to start the interfaces on boot, which is kind of what ifupdown interfaces is, no? Mar 12 10:10:21 get lua-in-kernel from BSD and write it in lua Mar 12 10:17:32 I'm using ash-scripts together with mdev on my minimal systems. so udev is an alternative too Mar 12 10:17:54 er Mar 12 10:17:57 iproute2? Mar 12 10:18:34 * biot wonders what's wrong with the world that people are still using ifconfig Mar 12 10:18:43 +1 Mar 12 10:18:55 who talked about ifconfig? Mar 12 10:19:11 somebody did yesterday, when jackmitchell asked originally Mar 12 10:19:33 but works as good as iproute2. Mar 12 10:19:49 even if it's deprecated Mar 12 10:19:54 it worked almost as good 15 years ago, when iproute2 obsoleted it Mar 12 10:20:00 aholler_: what does? Mar 12 10:20:05 at this stage, it's just surreal to use ifconfif Mar 12 10:20:11 ifconfig* Mar 12 10:20:48 some people still don't know the syntax ip out of the memories Mar 12 10:21:06 it's mostly intuitive Mar 12 10:21:18 it is, and has built-in help Mar 12 10:21:30 I've recently searched a while to find out how to change the mtu ;) Mar 12 10:22:00 I'd guess something like "ip link set mtu $value dev eth0" or so Mar 12 10:22:19 aholler_: so you have a settings file somewhere and you start the interfaces on boot using a custom script? Mar 12 10:22:32 or did you mean the mtu of a route? Mar 12 10:23:23 jackmitchell: the script is the settings file. I've just call it when an interface appears Mar 12 10:23:35 I don't need fancy stuff there Mar 12 10:25:04 hello Mar 12 10:26:32 how can i do fingerprint matching with beagleboard using openCV Mar 12 10:26:45 jackmitchell: cbrake has udev rules to do ifconfig, maybe that works for you as well Mar 12 10:26:57 jackmitchell: the script just calls ip or (u)dhcp to set the ip, route and similiar Mar 12 10:27:24 aholler_: koen: thanks, I'll do some more research and testing today Mar 12 10:27:24 1) aquire fingerprint 2) compare to fingerprint database 3) print "found" Mar 12 10:27:27 sorry Mar 12 10:29:03 av500: why bother with 2? Mar 12 10:29:30 we r having problem with the comparison code... Mar 12 10:29:30 2a) pick a random one Mar 12 10:30:13 can u suggest where i can get good c++codes to be run using opencv Mar 12 10:30:23 google? Mar 12 10:30:41 I guess there exists a lot scentific literatur about processing fingerprints ;) Mar 12 10:30:56 ya...we searched ..its not working Mar 12 10:31:01 and a lot of unscientific too Mar 12 10:31:10 google is broken?! Mar 12 10:31:13 what is not working? google works for me Mar 12 10:31:19 try bing Mar 12 10:31:23 or lycos Mar 12 10:31:27 quick to the bunkers!!! Mar 12 10:32:32 Guest38364: you do realize this is not an openCV channel? Mar 12 10:32:47 nor #csi Mar 12 10:33:01 !enhance Mar 12 10:33:29 damn, just when that stupid bot would've been funny, it's gone Mar 12 10:33:35 http://dasalte.ccc.de/biometrie/fingerabdruck_kopieren?language=en Mar 12 10:33:38 mru: Error: "enhance" is not a valid command. Mar 12 10:33:45 ah, see Mar 12 10:33:47 not csi Mar 12 10:34:04 !help Mar 12 10:34:05 av500: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. Mar 12 10:35:04 how can fingerprint matchingbe done with arm processor? Mar 12 10:35:12 same as on any processor Mar 12 10:35:20 how can it be done with x86 processor? Mar 12 10:35:28 this is not #forensics Mar 12 10:35:29 impossible without an arm Mar 12 10:35:39 aholler_: it could be a severed finger Mar 12 10:35:40 aholler_: maybe a toeprint? Mar 12 10:35:44 http://www.neurotechnology.com/verifinger-embedded-technology.html Mar 12 10:36:13 *may not be free, or have IRC channel support Mar 12 10:36:54 Is it necessary to know arm instructions or can it be done by porting Mar 12 10:37:03 lol Mar 12 10:37:11 * biot buries head in hands Mar 12 10:37:16 this is so bad Mar 12 10:37:36 sorry Mar 12 10:37:45 biot: you must be new here ;) Mar 12 10:38:08 yeah Mar 12 10:38:15 dm8tbr: I am an idealist, I believe everyone has at least a working brain Mar 12 10:38:28 ok Mar 12 10:38:29 biot: that would be a flawed assumption Mar 12 10:38:38 biot: are there plans to 'fix' sigrok-cli to have libsigrok-decode as an optional dependency? Mar 12 10:38:50 biot: my targets are stuck with python2 for the time being :( Mar 12 10:38:57 Guest38364: can you match on x86? Mar 12 10:39:03 koen: not really no, not that anyone's asked Mar 12 10:39:05 biot: depends on how you defines working Mar 12 10:39:20 koen: oooh, are you running sigrok-cli on an embedded platform? Mar 12 10:39:27 biot: that's the plan Mar 12 10:39:29 on an arm maybe? Mar 12 10:39:30 av500: x86 has a mtchfprnt instruction, no? Mar 12 10:39:37 ah now that's interesting enough that I might look into it Mar 12 10:39:38 how can sig be rocked on an arm? Mar 12 10:39:57 koen: I've long considered such a use case, but never come across anyone that actually wanted to do it Mar 12 10:40:01 biot: or making python3 optional for libsigrokdecode would work as well :) Mar 12 10:40:21 no problems with that here ;) Mar 12 10:40:27 kill: ROK: invalid signal specification Mar 12 10:40:48 koen: no, that's never going to happen -- the python internal API is quite different in python3, and we went for it 100% Mar 12 10:41:03 but let me look into making the whole sigrokdecode thing optional Mar 12 10:41:06 that's why using python is a stupid idea Mar 12 10:41:32 mru: meh, it's a major upgrade from 2 to 3 is all Mar 12 10:46:09 btw., nmap has fingerprinting capabilities Mar 12 10:46:22 but does it work on arm? Mar 12 10:46:31 yes Mar 12 10:46:36 nmap uses ports too Mar 12 10:46:42 arm ports? Mar 12 10:47:01 it's ported Mar 12 10:47:43 biot: I don't mean python2 support, I mean having libsigrokdecode build without python Mar 12 10:47:54 biot: I realize that would make it useless :) Mar 12 10:48:29 koen: er, no, it's specifically an interface between python3 and a bunch of python3 scripts (PDs) Mar 12 10:48:38 I could offer a python3-package (tarball) for arm ;) Mar 12 10:48:55 snakes don't have arms Mar 12 10:49:40 nor fingers, so printing them could be difficult Mar 12 10:51:02 kernel.org disabled it's finger-service too Mar 12 11:07:35 aholler: yeah.. that's a shame Mar 12 11:07:39 * KotH used it a lot Mar 12 11:10:35 https://www.kernel.org/finger_banner Mar 12 11:11:31 hello Mar 12 11:11:36 https://www.kernel.org/releases.json Mar 12 11:14:31 only usb camera s possible with beagleboard or what? we have MT9v043 camera and we have its drivers too where can we put that drivers so that we can work on that please help us Mar 12 11:14:43 ay1 thr? Mar 12 11:15:25 the drivers should come with some instructions Mar 12 11:15:49 match those up with the beagle SRM and OMAP3 TRM Mar 12 11:16:55 no instruction Mar 12 11:17:01 :( Mar 12 11:18:10 where did you buy the drivers? Mar 12 11:18:17 that our camera will support for sure know Mar 12 11:18:20 ? Mar 12 11:18:51 can you not take and camera and drivers back to the shop and ask for support? Mar 12 11:32:17 yea that we cant do because of time limit ... i mean we dont have much time to go...:P Mar 12 11:32:28 who is "we"? Mar 12 11:32:35 students? Mar 12 11:32:59 yup Mar 12 11:33:25 and who picked the project? Mar 12 11:33:35 my frnd Mar 12 11:33:59 hit him Mar 12 11:34:18 girl Mar 12 11:34:23 but connecting that sensor is in fact not hard Mar 12 11:34:37 its a typical parallel output sensor Mar 12 11:34:38 but how? Mar 12 11:34:48 so fits the XM camera connector nicely Mar 12 11:35:35 yea do you have any idea wer to put that drivers Mar 12 11:35:54 we badly want it Mar 12 11:36:00 plzzzzzzzzzz Mar 12 11:36:03 I would guess in the kernel Mar 12 11:36:42 https://www.leopardimaging.com/Leopardboard_Accessories.html Mar 12 11:36:49 see LI-VM34LP Mar 12 11:36:55 klick on specs Mar 12 11:37:11 basically, your work has already been done Mar 12 11:37:17 lunch Mar 12 11:51:17 but you have time to reverse engineer how to get some unknown camera module working, while you have very little knowledge about the beagle, omaps and linux in general? Mar 12 12:28:42 http://www.pmdtec.com/products_services/pmd_photonics_specs.php Mar 12 12:28:48 koen: ^^^ cape please Mar 12 12:32:00 koen: I'm horribly delaying the new Narcissus insisting to fix the old NOR flash on collie. The other models do already support ubifs and I'm trying to line up the family Mar 12 12:33:58 koen: I have found the service manual. The bus is definitely 32bit and there are two 64M (4M x 16) chips. The specs for LH28F640BFHE-PTTL90 are showing 16bit support only. Mar 12 12:34:24 http://www.tekprosystems.com/images/zaurus/zguts1.jpg Mar 12 12:34:45 now, there are inconsistencies everywhere :/ Mar 12 12:35:09 the flash is 16MB but in collie.c 32MB are reserved ? Mar 12 12:35:26 av500: +1 Mar 12 12:35:30 koen: ^ Mar 12 12:35:41 preorders? Mar 12 12:35:54 koen: the io is also sized in CS= 32M and CS1 32M...but there is no CS1 Mar 12 12:37:10 finally, the cfi_probe doesn't detect anything (chips are declared cfi compatible, though) and strangely 4 x 8bit chips are expected ?? Mar 12 12:38:43 jedec_probe can detect the flash, though. But it seems to work (read only atm) both in 4x8 and 2x16 mode... Mar 12 12:38:56 koen: if you have any idea pls let me know Mar 12 12:45:45 I am down to 2 google ads Mar 12 12:45:50 1) variscite omap4 SOMS Mar 12 12:45:58 2) delkin industrial SD cards Mar 12 12:46:07 I get these on 50% of all websites Mar 12 12:47:38 av500: ofc you've opted out several times aleady Mar 12 12:50:38 no idea Mar 12 12:56:31 gee, there's a whole UI for that Mar 12 12:56:39 hmm, I cannot add beer as an interest Mar 12 13:22:09 ka6sox-away: mcasp0 Mar 12 13:36:04 trolls trolls trolls Mar 12 13:36:44 Trololololo lololo lololooooo Mar 12 13:36:57 look what I found in hong kong: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-077mIMuxnhU/UT4IM6ZeA1I/AAAAAAAADug/XVLk0BYwcCw/s982/img_4223 Mar 12 13:37:29 mru, were there any trolls inside? Mar 12 13:37:48 I didn't enter Mar 12 13:38:36 full set containing that image: https://plus.google.com/photos/101083367758063442977/albums/5854124910664291585 Mar 12 13:39:42 mru: the chinese copied a mediteran tourist trap? Mar 12 13:47:37 av500: something like that Mar 12 13:48:35 the island had mostly some old fishing villages Mar 12 13:48:39 then the hippies arrived Mar 12 13:49:18 ah, like berlin :) Mar 12 13:49:37 lol Mar 12 13:50:05 ogra_`: go shovel! Mar 12 13:51:31 av500: you happen to have some spare nand chips? Mar 12 13:51:47 ;) Mar 12 13:54:34 LetoThe2nd: isn't ds2 the nand man? Mar 12 13:54:42 LetoThe2nd: I have a full tray of omap4470 :) Mar 12 13:55:02 are you sure? TI has been known to mislabel chips... Mar 12 13:55:18 av500: that will keep ogra_` busy at least until august ;) Mar 12 13:55:43 you really dont want snow across the whole state until august ... Mar 12 13:55:48 that would affect av500 too Mar 12 13:56:03 ogra_`: who said "full state"? Mar 12 13:56:13 * mru would rather not have snow, ever Mar 12 13:56:17 ogra_`: your pavement will do just fine. Mar 12 13:56:31 tsk, i doubt your nordic gods can differentiate a single city out ... Mar 12 13:57:26 * LetoThe2nd shall talk to loki on that topic this evening ;) Mar 12 13:57:52 I don't know about that, but of all the various gods that have been invented, the nordic ones strike me as the most likable Mar 12 13:58:26 they work against me thanks to LetoThe2nd ... so i'm not so sure i still like them Mar 12 13:58:28 mru: yeah, thats why we sacrifice ICs to them in order to make them send snow to ogra_` Mar 12 13:58:42 LetoThe2nd: send ogra_` a sand storm Mar 12 13:58:53 then he can shovel sand too Mar 12 13:58:59 av500: wrong planet, unfortunately. Mar 12 13:58:59 lol Mar 12 13:59:52 if the sand won't come to ogra_`, then... Mar 12 14:00:02 +1 Mar 12 14:01:48 * LetoThe2nd feels his hatred on the compiler provided by mru's employer rise up higher and higher Mar 12 14:02:13 try a TI compiler Mar 12 14:02:14 how come? Mar 12 14:02:19 mdp: :) Mar 12 14:02:31 did they add Mir to it ? Mar 12 14:02:57 mru: incomplete c++ support and not a trace of c++11? Mar 12 14:02:57 LetoThe2nd: use gcc Mar 12 14:03:06 c++ is overrated Mar 12 14:03:09 did gentoo fork it into emir yet? Mar 12 14:03:12 av500: would love to. i shall try to beat my boss into it. Mar 12 14:03:15 mru, +1 Mar 12 14:03:25 koen: +inf! Mar 12 14:03:29 c++ haters Mar 12 14:03:31 LetoThe2nd: which version btw? Mar 12 14:03:39 LetoThe2nd: I stole that from an lwn comment :) Mar 12 14:03:52 lovely Mar 12 14:03:53 mru: current, 5.03.something Mar 12 14:04:07 LetoThe2nd: then this guy is your friend: http://e2e.ti.com/support/development_tools/compiler/f/343/t/247561.aspx Mar 12 14:04:22 LetoThe2nd: you should really be complaining about the EDG frontend they use Mar 12 14:04:51 mru: like not accepting [] operators as template arguments and such.. bleh Mar 12 14:05:02 file bug reports Mar 12 14:05:21 * LetoThe2nd will rather file company requests to move to g++ ;) Mar 12 14:07:29 av500: I started asking roadmap requests for the kernel by pointing at upstream patch submissions Mar 12 14:07:47 it's like a 1-2 year leading indicator for kernel features...convenient Mar 12 14:07:57 s/asking/answering/ Mar 12 14:11:55 so the kernel is far from done :( Mar 12 14:12:10 it was done in 3.8 Mar 12 14:12:15 or so I'm told Mar 12 14:12:31 av500, which kernel? ;) Mar 12 14:12:37 hurd Mar 12 14:12:42 ahh, the good one Mar 12 14:12:46 ethical kernel Mar 12 14:13:22 http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/linux/f/354/t/251296.aspx Mar 12 14:13:26 I like this one Mar 12 14:13:47 mru: what does your 6678 do? Mar 12 14:13:54 av500: so far, nothing Mar 12 14:14:08 why dont you port libav on it? Mar 12 14:14:25 I have to make it boot before I do anything else Mar 12 14:14:34 you ask too much Mar 12 14:14:46 all you need is ssh Mar 12 14:15:00 ssh without boot? Mar 12 14:15:06 av500, need to watch that ph0rum thread and see how many people jump all over it Mar 12 14:15:35 evil vendor compilers Mar 12 14:15:56 mdp: I like how all the TI people have "please do not forget to rate me" in their reply footers Mar 12 14:16:10 it feels a bit like ebay Mar 12 14:16:17 do they start shouting at you if you rate them bad? Mar 12 14:16:23 last time I've seen a ti compiler it stiil didn't know aobit stdint.h Mar 12 14:16:53 mru: btw, what happened to all your ticc bug reports? Mar 12 14:16:53 av500, I even added it at one point when I felt it what my purpose in life. then things got prioritized. Mar 12 14:17:04 mdp: be ashamed Mar 12 14:17:07 koen / panto thanks for the update Mar 12 14:17:28 aholler: they have it now Mar 12 14:17:31 av500, no regrets. ;) Mar 12 14:17:49 av500: some got fixed, some not Mar 12 14:18:09 av500, if you can imagine, it's possible to just research and answer e2e posting for 2-3 phorums full-time and do nothing else Mar 12 14:18:24 of course Mar 12 14:18:40 I mean, giving real answers Mar 12 14:18:43 but answering without giving away _any_ information takes some skill Mar 12 14:18:52 not just bumping the post with a one liner question Mar 12 14:19:01 but these are ph0rums Mar 12 14:19:04 mdp: yes Mar 12 14:19:06 real answers are forbidden Mar 12 14:19:10 mru: but I assume their examples still use some selfinvented types like linux does with u32 ;) Mar 12 14:19:20 I don't do examples Mar 12 14:19:23 those one liner questions feed the metrics, keep in mind...the teams are greated on "any response" within 24 hours Mar 12 14:19:34 s/greated/graded Mar 12 14:19:40 grated Mar 12 14:19:48 grated sounds better Mar 12 14:19:49 gyrated Mar 12 14:20:00 and gyros'ed Mar 12 14:20:08 the 3G Mar 12 14:20:13 bah, now i'm hungary Mar 12 14:20:14 sprinkle grated s/w engineer liberally throughout ph0rums Mar 12 14:20:28 ogra_`: shovel!!! Mar 12 14:21:32 a wild jayabharath appears Mar 12 14:23:06 fight him with the knife Mar 12 14:23:16 run east Mar 12 14:23:44 you have been eaten by a grue Mar 12 14:25:20 * mdp presses ctrl-reset and restarts Mar 12 14:25:47 a wild NishanthMenon appears Mar 12 14:26:26 throw the cpufreq grenade at NishanthMenon Mar 12 14:26:39 av500, hi Mar 12 14:26:48 mdp, got the grenade thrown back at me ;) Mar 12 14:27:03 I see that ;) Mar 12 14:28:06 just the freezer cgroup Mar 12 14:28:12 +use Mar 12 14:28:57 mdp: no chance, NishanthMenon will change cpufreq to 0 to halt time Mar 12 14:29:09 go north Mar 12 14:29:34 av500: even if mdp has the power of wakelock? Mar 12 14:29:36 once upon a time hwmod was supposed to represent pure hw Mar 12 14:29:53 go north Mar 12 14:29:57 * mdp tries to escape this game Mar 12 14:30:09 the only way to win is not to play Mar 12 14:30:15 aieee Mar 12 14:30:54 sheep herding Mar 12 14:38:53 av500: the poster has at least posted two questions. post 25 and you will be rated intellectual Mar 12 14:39:41 how much for ineffectual? Mar 12 14:40:00 251, so 26 are needed Mar 12 14:41:21 poor employees are having it harder Mar 12 14:42:21 just 5.000 questions to become a guru Mar 12 14:42:33 how many for a grue? Mar 12 14:42:50 http://e2e.ti.com/group/helpcentral/w/e2e/455.07-becoming-recognized.aspx Mar 12 14:43:35 such rating systems are stupid in so many ways Mar 12 14:46:42 some people just can't live without trying to categorize everything. they need such to manage live Mar 12 14:47:11 mru, the day I realized there was no hope for inlining patches on e2e, I mysteriously found less time for it Mar 12 14:50:42 emeb_mac: ping Mar 12 14:50:54 prpplague: pong Mar 12 14:52:33 uups, s/live/life/ Mar 12 14:58:18 mdp: lol, I was writing the same comment at the same time :) Mar 12 14:58:29 hehe, I see Mar 12 14:58:40 mdp: I plus yours, you plus mine? Mar 12 14:58:49 deal! Mar 12 14:58:52 on 3! Mar 12 14:59:03 I launched a preemptive +1 already Mar 12 14:59:24 badges for everybody! Mar 12 14:59:35 we need steenking badges Mar 12 15:02:17 [[Beagleborad.org - Top Contributor]] Mar 12 15:02:46 av500, my local hi-tech industry even embraced RPi: http://goo.gl/8Qw52 Mar 12 15:04:58 What are we getting badges for? Mar 12 15:05:02 Doesn't really matter. I'm in. Mar 12 15:05:08 Badges for all! Mar 12 15:05:14 that's the spirit Mar 12 15:05:55 we should get credit on the helpdesk bigboard for answering questions on g+ too Mar 12 15:05:56 hrm Mar 12 15:07:05 argh, who said RPi ? Mar 12 15:07:26 ogra_: THEY did Mar 12 15:07:30 * Shadyman shivers. Mar 12 15:07:56 * ogra_ is just battling it on the ubuntu-phone ML .... Mar 12 15:08:03 "those people" Mar 12 15:08:10 LOL: .... Unlike other cases, the Bud case has a patented-design in which the windows are oversized to accommodate future versions of the Raspberry Pi board if port locations change or if new ports are added. Mar 12 15:08:20 patented? Mar 12 15:08:24 LOL Mar 12 15:08:41 where's that from ? Mar 12 15:08:41 mdp: can you got there and slap somebody? Mar 12 15:08:47 ogra_: above link Mar 12 15:08:51 dont you click all links? Mar 12 15:09:09 i sometimes work and only click them delayed :) Mar 12 15:09:14 patent violation suits being violated against 2732 separate chinese case companies now ;) Mar 12 15:09:23 er, filed even Mar 12 15:09:32 * mdp needs coffee Mar 12 15:09:53 me too Mar 12 15:09:58