**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 13 02:59:58 2013 Mar 13 03:00:06 hehe looks like your web page url for it is gone Mar 13 03:01:52 I think I was hosting that at home Mar 13 03:04:06 ahh man Mar 13 03:04:11 who let Crofton in here Mar 13 03:07:36 Crofton: hey dudez Mar 13 03:07:56 mranostay: uh, you shop on dealextreme? Mar 13 03:08:05 nope should i? Mar 13 03:08:22 mranostay: all kinds of cool stuff for cheap Mar 13 03:08:55 wmat: you shop dealextreme? Mar 13 03:09:13 * prpplague thinks wmat is hiding Mar 13 03:09:49 prpplague: sneaky canadians Mar 13 03:10:44 mranostay: i found same hair - http://dx.com/p/fashion-short-top-curly-hair-wig-brown-68057?rt=1&p=6&m=1&r=4&k=1&t=1&s=&u=68057 Mar 13 03:10:49 s/same/some Mar 13 03:11:19 wear that for design west to if anyone recognizes me Mar 13 03:11:59 prpplague: at least you have the self respect not to attempt the combover Mar 13 03:12:14 mranostay: have none to combover Mar 13 03:12:16 hehe Mar 13 03:12:40 mranostay: what can i say, patrick stewart copied me Mar 13 03:15:29 heh Mar 13 03:15:44 Russ: http://dx.com/p/laptop-diagnostic-card-2-digit-codes-4404 Mar 13 03:15:47 * mranostay curses iio Mar 13 03:15:58 Russ: notice anything "interesting" ? Mar 13 03:16:28 parallel port? what @#$@# year is this? Mar 13 03:17:01 besides that Mar 13 03:17:47 3 pins? Mar 13 03:17:51 er 4 Mar 13 03:18:37 mranostay: the usb signals are not routed , and the power/gnd pins on the usb are swapped Mar 13 03:21:38 prpplague: that seems bad Mar 13 03:21:44 9ACh ahclkx Mar 13 03:22:41 ka6sox my main^H^H^H^H^backup dude Mar 13 03:26:42 $!#$!#@$@#! the ti-tscadc uses hwmods as well Mar 13 03:32:22 mranostay, it happens Mar 13 03:33:03 omg! omap5 heat sink !!! http://dx.com/p/130w-900-2000rpm-quiet-cpu-heatsink-cooling-fan-with-pwm-speed-control-34473 Mar 13 03:33:18 the pals? Mar 13 03:33:19 sigh... 3 out of 4 sensors working on the bone Mar 13 03:33:25 can't complain I suppose Mar 13 03:33:28 the USB connector on something that seems so old? Mar 13 03:33:55 prpplague: seems like overkill Mar 13 03:34:46 Russ: hehe Mar 13 03:34:59 * mranostay searchs for the TI guy in this channel Mar 13 03:35:01 "Built-in buzzer produces audible sound alerts"??? Mar 13 03:35:19 Russ: check out the picture of the back side of the board Mar 13 03:36:02 mranostay: even better - http://dx.com/p/pccooler-hs90h-2000rpm-cpu-heatsink-cooling-fan-for-desktop-black-copper-orange-168517 Mar 13 03:37:09 prpplague, I'm looking at the back side, and I'm not seeing it Mar 13 03:37:19 prpplague: i know some idiot has put that on their r-pi Mar 13 03:37:50 Russ: no traces for the usb signals Mar 13 03:37:59 ya, its for power Mar 13 03:38:09 Russ: and the ground power pins are swapped Mar 13 03:38:51 I don't think so Mar 13 03:39:51 Russ: hehe i order one Mar 13 03:40:07 Russ: they originally had a floppy drive style power connector on it Mar 13 03:40:13 I pick up a male a connector and look into it Mar 13 03:40:19 pin one is on the right, which is vcc Mar 13 03:40:38 I look at the top of the board, the pin on the right of the connector goes into the south end of the board Mar 13 03:40:38 * prpplague looks at the photo again Mar 13 03:40:59 flip the board over, and its the north side pin that is connected to ground Mar 13 03:41:43 Russ: yea you are right the photo is correct, but not the one i received, it is reversed Mar 13 03:57:48 prpplague, have you had enough RUM yet? Mar 13 03:58:10 there is not enough rum in the world Mar 13 03:58:30 ka6sox: let me check Mar 13 03:58:36 * prpplague pulls up a picture of mranostay Mar 13 03:58:46 uh oh Mar 13 03:58:47 ka6sox: yep he's still ugly, so no Mar 13 03:59:16 * prpplague jokes with mranostay Mar 13 03:59:19 geez :) Mar 13 04:00:34 I'm still trying to find 1 matrix that shows me the AM335X pinmux modes for each pin... Mar 13 04:00:36 ka6sox: naw, really just light beer tonight, long day tomorrow working on the minnow board Mar 13 04:00:59 BTW...I have a question about this.... Mar 13 04:01:01 mranostay: just joking around Mar 13 04:01:08 iirc minnows are SMALL.... Mar 13 04:01:18 and that you use a NET to catch them... Mar 13 04:01:20 ka6sox: it is relative Mar 13 04:01:25 so Lures make NO sense... Mar 13 04:01:30 prpplague: intel going with a fish theme now? :) Mar 13 04:01:33 ka6sox: not part of marketing Mar 13 04:01:37 FRI2 then minnowboard Mar 13 04:01:40 mranostay: they have for some time Mar 13 04:01:55 prpplague, FRI2 is a Myth. Mar 13 04:02:04 ka6sox: hehe Mar 13 04:02:08 ka6sox: myth?!? Mar 13 04:02:20 I have NO evidence they exist. Mar 13 04:02:24 ka6sox: next elc/elce i'll give you the "real story" on fri2 Mar 13 04:02:42 ka6sox: like panda5 Mar 13 04:02:56 ka6sox: i do Mar 13 04:03:07 hehe qnx under NDA puts out a freakin youtube video Mar 13 04:03:16 they must not like khem and me... Mar 13 04:03:17 you'd think TI would be all over that Mar 13 04:03:41 ka6sox: you went to yocto day 2011 in Redwood Shores right? Mar 13 04:03:48 YES. Mar 13 04:04:19 khem and I were both there. Mar 13 04:04:51 ka6sox: does it annoy you more that i'm doing nothing really with mine? :) Mar 13 04:05:26 http://youtu.be/rvaSWqxMg6k Mar 13 04:05:26 if it is as they say then YES...it does. Mar 13 04:05:52 I've printed out all the relevant pages from all TRMs that I can find...except the 1 I need... Mar 13 04:06:01 ka6sox: poke tracey or davest? Mar 13 04:06:17 the one with the pinmodes for the 335X Mar 13 04:09:06 * ka6sox hear crickets :P Mar 13 04:09:32 it is there Mar 13 04:14:23 ka6sox: maybe I'm missing some context, are you looking for the datasheet instead of the TRM? Mar 13 04:14:58 oh alan_o is here Mar 13 04:15:05 hehe Mar 13 04:15:11 back in the office for a while Mar 13 04:15:49 don't you work from home? Mar 13 04:15:56 Been in Salt Lake CIty. ski trip with people from my former company. Mar 13 04:16:16 I do work from home, most of the time. Mar 13 04:17:12 alan_o, the context is that the pins I care about are not in the SRM for the Bone... Mar 13 04:18:15 do not mention the colour! Mar 13 04:18:32 ka6sox: So the datasheet has all the pinmux modes for all the pins on the SoC http://www.ti.com/product/am3359 Mar 13 04:18:44 mcasp0_ahclkx, mcasp0_fsx, mcasp0_aclkx, mcasp0_ahclkr Mar 13 04:18:45 note it's different than the TRM Mar 13 04:18:54 stop me if you know this..... Mar 13 04:20:15 * mranostay stops alan_o Mar 13 04:20:56 alan_o, thank you... Mar 13 04:21:01 mode6 Mar 13 04:22:11 thats what I needed to verify all this. Mar 13 04:23:47 no prob Mar 13 04:27:11 * mranostay clicks the big board Mar 13 04:27:27 hehe Mar 13 04:28:49 * mranostay sends ka6sox an invoice Mar 13 04:29:39 alan_o: $200 per instance seems fair right? Mar 13 04:29:51 sounds about right Mar 13 04:30:33 I've seen companies charge more for tech support than the companies I was at were able to charge for engineering. Mar 13 04:32:58 * mranostay charges alan_o an invoice fee of $195 Mar 13 04:33:12 d0h! Mar 13 04:33:24 d0h! Mar 13 04:33:55 ok bed time, later all! Mar 13 05:22:24 <_av500_> yarn Mar 13 05:22:35 kittens Mar 13 05:22:44 * mranostay beats _av500_ with kittens Mar 13 05:23:16 <_av500_> fluffy ones? Mar 13 05:23:57 blood removes the fluff :/ Mar 13 05:24:34 * _av500_ dips another kitten in his morning coffee Mar 13 05:26:20 better use them as sacrifice for the weather good Mar 13 05:26:25 -o Mar 13 05:26:58 \-o-/ Mar 13 05:29:09 <_av500_> mranostay: improper landing that TIE fighter will get you in trouble Mar 13 05:29:42 <_av500_> aholler: do I get more snow? Mar 13 05:29:46 <_av500_> that would be awesome Mar 13 05:30:01 @#$@#$ snow Mar 13 05:30:14 i'm not the god, so I can't answer your question Mar 13 05:30:30 <_av500_> aholler: maybe some command in Uenv.txt? Mar 13 05:30:43 check spelling Mar 13 05:33:01 at least if it resides on an extN-partition Mar 13 05:34:47 <_av500_> extFAT? Mar 13 05:35:04 payed royalities? Mar 13 05:35:47 and signed an nda to not speak about them? Mar 13 05:35:51 <_av500_> I asked the Queen Mar 13 05:36:23 and she said??? Mar 13 05:36:38 "I need a shave" Mar 13 05:36:45 <_av500_> "we are not amused" Mar 13 05:36:56 <_av500_> ok, time for teleport Mar 13 05:37:03 * mranostay shoots _av500_ Mar 13 05:37:29 _av500_, is the floo network down? Mar 13 05:39:19 PINMUX SUCKS...that is all... Mar 13 05:42:45 I hate eating red herring :p Mar 13 05:43:08 at least you identified it Mar 13 05:44:14 * ds2 waits for a x86 guppy board Mar 13 05:46:17 aholler, its almost as bad as Eating Crow... Mar 13 05:46:36 ka6sox: getting HDMI audio now? Mar 13 05:47:03 today I've been in PINMUX HELL... Mar 13 05:47:16 the pinmux is just fine as it is Mar 13 05:47:16 now that I am out of that I can get back to my regularly scheduled programme. Mar 13 05:47:32 TI pin muxes are easy and fun Mar 13 05:48:00 ds2, I had to understand what I had...that was a expedition thru a minefield filled with Asps. Mar 13 05:48:15 ka6sox: worse is you dump all the registers Mar 13 05:48:54 my values don't match theirs...yet Mar 13 05:49:15 seems to be off by 1 bit Mar 13 05:49:20 still reading Mar 13 05:49:24 so the real abombination is the 234392041832094189483290418239 ways of doing the pinmux Mar 13 05:49:42 off by one bit screws up 2 pins Mar 13 05:49:57 or the 1e38 kernel files you need to trace through to find all the settings. Mar 13 05:50:09 thats down to 3 files. Mar 13 05:50:12 emeb_mac: surprising, it is just a handful of files Mar 13 05:50:33 at one point I had 13 files open... Mar 13 05:50:41 which files however is left as an exercise for the reader. Mar 13 05:50:48 how you manage to get that many candidates? Mar 13 05:51:16 now that I'm out of pinmux hell I am hopefully just (insert time frame here) away from sorting this. Mar 13 05:51:48 but is longer then the life of the universe Mar 13 05:51:51 :D Mar 13 05:51:56 once you get the mcasp talking to the external world - then you need to get ALSA to talk to the mcasp. Mar 13 05:53:06 http://imagebin.org/250061 Mar 13 05:54:08 cold & damp? Mar 13 05:54:20 snow everywhere Mar 13 05:55:11 damn global warming... Mar 13 05:55:26 those high values are because the tag gets some sun in the morning Mar 13 05:55:42 have to search a case for it Mar 13 05:56:37 this is annoying... .donno how this driver manage to get upstream Mar 13 05:56:48 I know Mar 13 05:57:30 oh crap...back into pinmux Hell...the software doesn't match the schematic. Mar 13 05:58:47 hahahahahah Mar 13 05:58:49 btw., be sure to not use 3.9-rc2 Mar 13 06:00:05 ka6sox: that would be too easy :) Mar 13 06:01:09 even if the schematic definition they are using is WRONG the chip Ball Number makes sense. Mar 13 06:01:40 someone used the mode designation instead of the ball designation. Mar 13 06:04:17 ka6sox: do you have the right package? Mar 13 06:04:20 there are 2 packages Mar 13 06:04:27 and their balls are different Mar 13 06:04:30 one doesn't make sense... Mar 13 06:04:39 A13 is a JTAG pin in one Mar 13 06:05:18 JTAG can be reprogrammed on some chips..donno offhand for this one Mar 13 06:05:29 doesnt' seem to be in this case Mar 13 06:06:23 yes, some JTAG pins can be muxed. Mar 13 06:06:33 on AM335X. Mar 13 06:06:37 not sure why Mar 13 06:07:07 some folks use it to lock out JTAG Mar 13 06:07:34 okay then which package is it... Mar 13 06:09:20 I'm going with the ball designations are right and the description is wrong Mar 13 06:10:38 there should be a package initialization Mar 13 06:10:41 what does that say? Mar 13 06:10:45 it probally got moved to the DT Mar 13 06:11:40 ZCZ Mar 13 06:14:01 ds2, yes, it thinks its on the SPI pins and not on the mcasp pins it is on. Mar 13 06:15:18 maybe it doesn't like to be on top of scots Mar 13 06:15:48 * mranostay dances in again Mar 13 06:16:20 prpplague: you'll enjoy this i was explaing what purple plague was to a fellow engineer today Mar 13 06:17:07 ds2, they really were setting it to SPI mode. Mar 13 06:17:16 which is why its not quite right Mar 13 06:18:16 * ka6sox tries to figure out why anyone would turn on a receiver for an output bit. Mar 13 06:19:35 * mranostay hands ka6sox a virtual roman coke Mar 13 06:19:55 can anybody point me to a working compiler? Mar 13 06:19:59 :( Mar 13 06:20:06 ? Mar 13 06:20:42 ok jkridner is drunk Mar 13 06:20:46 linaro-1.13.1-2012.01-20120125 and arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc (GCC) 4.3.3 both fail to build the kernel for me Mar 13 06:21:00 4.3.3? Mar 13 06:21:01 isn't that a bit old? Mar 13 06:21:06 ka6sox: the MCSPI's are F'ed Mar 13 06:21:13 yeah, which is why I tried the Linaro one... Mar 13 06:21:17 ka6sox: if you don't turn it on, it blows up Mar 13 06:21:17 be happy it failed Mar 13 06:21:21 hehe Mar 13 06:21:23 all their latest builds are gnueabihf. :( Mar 13 06:21:42 just get a gentoo stage3 Mar 13 06:21:57 jkridner, llvm? Mar 13 06:22:28 k, I have a gentoo stage 3, but I'm not trying to build natively. Should I try to emerge the compiler? Mar 13 06:22:31 jkridner: x86 or x86_64? Mar 13 06:22:40 x86 Mar 13 06:22:59 got a ICS rowboat tree handy? Mar 13 06:23:04 you could use the ndk from android Mar 13 06:23:19 the JB toolchains are iffy but the ICS one seems to work Mar 13 06:23:21 if you don't need libc-stuff Mar 13 06:23:38 * mranostay bows to Larry Mar 13 06:24:20 * ka6sox hopes jkridner has a few days to do that... Mar 13 06:24:31 what's wrong with gnueabihf? Mar 13 06:24:42 it isn't what the userspace is built with. Mar 13 06:25:00 I thought you want to build a kernel? Mar 13 06:26:10 or just use an Angstrom SDK Mar 13 06:26:44 angstrom isn't hf? Mar 13 06:26:46 jkridner, where did this come from? https://github.com/jadonk/linux/blob/v3.8.1-00370-g43085c3/arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-bone-common.dtsi Mar 13 06:27:13 kernel doesn't use floats Mar 13 06:27:15 I'd have to walk through the patches on http://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8 Mar 13 06:27:29 okay never mind Mar 13 06:27:40 ds2: doesn't float their boat? Mar 13 06:27:49 I'll try the latest Angstrom SDK. Mar 13 06:28:01 * ka6sox smacks mranostay with a minnow Mar 13 06:28:43 jkridner: hf-compilers can generate non-hf code too. and for the kernel you don't have to take care at all Mar 13 06:28:55 k Mar 13 06:29:29 a Mar 13 06:29:50 go south Mar 13 06:30:20 s/south/west/ Mar 13 06:30:35 mranostay: no, I prefer boat anchors Mar 13 06:31:55 south by southwest? Mar 13 06:32:29 that would be ass Mar 13 06:33:58 or ssa in civilized speak Mar 13 06:38:24 sxsw Mar 13 06:42:34 boys Mar 13 06:43:30 mourning av500 Mar 13 06:44:54 jkridner: wanted a compiler?: http://linuxgizmos.com/intel-toolsuite-supports-linux-device-software-developers/ Mar 13 06:45:44 what a steal starting at just $3500 Mar 13 06:46:04 worth every penny Mar 13 06:46:47 I hope #minnowboard comes with a free copy Mar 13 06:46:53 sounds like it includes some hw Mar 13 06:47:19 av500: quiet on the trolling :P Mar 13 06:49:23 isn't there CCS for the 335x and Linux? Mar 13 06:49:48 yipeeeeeeeeeee bone with compass works Mar 13 06:50:44 attached a needle? Mar 13 06:51:01 float on a magnet + cork Mar 13 06:51:41 use google maps Mar 13 06:51:49 needs net Mar 13 06:52:10 then use that kids "green detector" to find the mossy side of the tree Mar 13 06:52:27 floating bones! Mar 13 06:52:27 whats that? Mar 13 06:52:30 av500, that works... Mar 13 06:52:41 ah, opencv Mar 13 06:52:43 (unless you forget what hemisphere you are in) Mar 13 06:53:15 ds2: that will be the name of my BBB cape proto board :P Mar 13 06:53:44 opencv might be included in intels toolsuite Mar 13 06:54:57 mranostay: is that a fusion device that generates the helium to float? Mar 13 06:55:25 sure Mar 13 06:59:13 mranostay: that thing you just plussed is a phone Mar 13 06:59:20 just sayin' Mar 13 06:59:23 whoa Mar 13 07:00:15 av500: i've seen those before Mar 13 07:00:29 ironically in a baptist church Mar 13 07:00:43 *ahem* behind the times *ahem* Mar 13 07:03:00 I have one in my living room Mar 13 07:03:04 awesome ring tone Mar 13 07:03:32 you have a baptist church in your living room? Mar 13 07:04:54 you dont? Mar 13 07:05:03 * Russ reads again and gets confused again Mar 13 07:05:07 Russ: i was raised baptist Mar 13 07:05:19 he plussed some tall bald guy Mar 13 07:05:23 * av500 calls his interior decorator Mar 13 07:05:34 "that church must go, its out of style!" Mar 13 07:05:37 aka parents dragging me to church Mar 13 07:06:03 i haven't belived in that silly stuff in 10 years :P Mar 13 07:07:47 okay...this ain't gonna work with it in SPI mode :p Mar 13 07:07:59 heh Mar 13 07:08:34 god speaks SPI? Mar 13 07:08:42 av500, yup Mar 13 07:08:49 god is dead Mar 13 07:08:50 none of that i2c crap Mar 13 07:08:58 we killed him Mar 13 07:09:14 ka6sox: its just that we dont know where the chip select line is.... Mar 13 07:09:17 biot: pong Mar 13 07:09:29 av500, yup Mar 13 07:09:34 yet his shadow still looms! Mar 13 07:10:07 * koen yawns Mar 13 07:10:20 koen, do I add the audio bits to the capebus setup for the HDMI cape or do it in common? Mar 13 07:11:22 ka6sox: i'd say HMDI cape Mar 13 07:11:48 anyone know what chip it uses? Mar 13 07:11:54 (or anyone have one?) Mar 13 07:12:40 displaylink Mar 13 07:12:47 rev A1 doesn't work with HDMI Mar 13 07:13:01 get one at plugable.com Mar 13 07:13:06 effed up data lines iirc Mar 13 07:14:39 the problem is that its in the DTSI..which means its common Mar 13 07:14:50 a common problem Mar 13 07:15:00 so if I put it in i2s mode it won't output audio in SPI mode. Mar 13 07:15:01 heh Mar 13 07:15:46 I guess we don't really care Mar 13 07:19:22 i never care Mar 13 07:21:54 last question I'll have to look @ in the AM...too tired. Mar 13 07:27:59 why would anyone turn on the receiver on a output pin :P Mar 13 07:28:08 s/output/output ONLY/ Mar 13 07:29:30 think at /dev/null Mar 13 07:29:39 * mranostay dances Mar 13 07:30:35 the sekrit random number generator Mar 13 07:31:11 * mranostay dances around aholler Mar 13 07:31:30 omg, usb3 in jacinto Mar 13 07:33:24 yes Mar 13 07:33:27 and two scots Mar 13 07:33:33 * mranostay dances around av500 too Mar 13 07:33:42 my jacintoboard has a nice usb3 connector Mar 13 07:34:13 I assume you are using it as power supply ;) Mar 13 07:38:53 aholler: if you want a jacinto, buy an Audi Mar 13 07:39:02 I have one Mar 13 07:39:08 and don't use it Mar 13 07:39:10 then ask for an upgrade Mar 13 07:39:34 does it still need mkCard.sh? Mar 13 07:39:57 no idea, maybe it can boot over MOST Mar 13 07:46:54 btw., I once had a tx-car with a sticker labeled "Jazzy 99.1". Does that radio station still exist? Mar 13 07:48:40 seem to have been that one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDXX Mar 13 07:50:05 the car in question: http://ahsoftware.de/fiat/bilder/PICT0011.jpg ;) Mar 13 07:51:27 ka6sox: do it in the hdmi cape section, it's the same chip as the black is using Mar 13 07:51:51 ka6sox: that cape was designed for the sw people to get hdmi working :) Mar 13 07:56:01 as trojan cape Mar 13 07:56:03 a* Mar 13 07:58:40 morning Mar 13 07:59:11 hey XorA Mar 13 08:01:35 koen: waiting eagerly for your new colour matched product ;-) Mar 13 08:01:53 it has blue leds Mar 13 08:02:48 you will need those http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/eeb6/ Mar 13 08:03:16 someone needs to invent "black" leds Mar 13 08:03:24 OMG: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1608380091/diy-fully-upgradeable-windows-8-tablet-how-to-guid Mar 13 08:03:41 aholler: I used a simple black pen Mar 13 08:04:07 av500: WTF?? Mar 13 08:04:18 XorA: :) Mar 13 08:04:18 av500: I'm still searching a supllier for those stickers Mar 13 08:04:29 aholler: Edding Mar 13 08:04:33 av500: so thats a book that tells you to go buy a dell :-D Mar 13 08:04:43 you tell me Mar 13 08:04:57 maybe I should start crapstarter.com Mar 13 08:05:40 I have seen those stickers first two years ago or such and still awaiting them at a local shop here :( Mar 13 08:08:32 * XorA starts a kickstarter for an x86 compatible arm! Mar 13 08:08:37 kickstarter is unbelievable Mar 13 08:09:33 make a kickstarter "how to port android" Mar 13 08:09:48 that would make you rich Mar 13 08:10:31 pledge $50 or more and add an "howto opencv" Mar 13 08:12:27 "exact steps" Mar 13 08:23:22 koen: sigrok-cli can be compiled without libsigrokdecode support now, latest from git Mar 13 08:24:01 you'll need to configure --without-libsigrokdecode Mar 13 08:24:29 * Russ thinks its about time to order one of these http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/preorder-open-workbench-logic-sniffer-p-612.html?cPath=75 Mar 13 08:25:36 I've written msp430-launchpad-sw to program the pic on that ;)# Mar 13 08:26:27 I killed it once using some broken updater and didn't have a pic-programmer Mar 13 08:27:42 so some bitbanging was needed Mar 13 08:28:19 luckily it uses a 3.3v programable pic Mar 13 08:30:22 koen: ah, sparkfun changed the FTDI basic, I have a bunch of the old ones that lacked the connector Mar 13 08:30:34 so one can solder it on the correct side for BBB Mar 13 08:30:53 get the one from watterott Mar 13 08:30:55 in fact I dont like the fact they added the connector Mar 13 08:31:13 just get the one that already has 6 pins Mar 13 08:31:20 and plugs straight in Mar 13 08:31:25 it does not Mar 13 08:31:49 it collides with the expansion port Mar 13 08:32:12 e.g this one: http://www.watterott.com/de/FTDI-Basic-Breakout-5V Mar 13 08:32:16 I mean this style https://www.adafruit.com/products/70 Mar 13 08:32:32 thats the cable Mar 13 08:32:35 yes, that fits Mar 13 08:32:45 but I dislike the cable Mar 13 08:32:47 this one is 3.3v and 5v: http://www.watterott.com/de/FTDI-Breakout-Reloaded-V11 Mar 13 08:33:21 this works but it huge Mar 13 08:33:54 gm Mar 13 08:34:10 or just get a bus pirate, it's now my swiss army knife Mar 13 08:34:14 ;) Mar 13 08:36:42 I settled on thus setup: https://plus.google.com/u/0/112266164281670850856/posts/c8Yx7GK7FGm Mar 13 08:36:46 this* Mar 13 08:37:00 I especially find the cables for the bus pirate and ols very handy Mar 13 08:38:07 that board got too much sun Mar 13 08:39:12 can't be have here for long, we only had around 100h sun in the last six months Mar 13 08:41:44 *have been Mar 13 08:44:38 darkest winter since they started weather recording Mar 13 08:44:48 winter is coming! Mar 13 08:45:02 i have it right outside Mar 13 08:47:59 thats why we are that successfull with solar stuff according to a us expert in solar things ;) Mar 13 08:59:19 http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/02/07/fox_news_expert_on_solar_energy_germany_gets_a_lot_more_sun_than_we_do_video.html?wpisrc=newsletter_jcr:content Mar 13 09:06:39 there must be too much of those mexicans cannons around ;) Mar 13 09:07:27 yeah Mar 13 09:10:25 aholler: look, somebody made your launchpad with RTC support: https://www.olimex.com/Products/MSP430/Starter/MSP430-1121STK2/ Mar 13 09:11:23 gah, horrific Mar 13 09:11:45 no usb Mar 13 09:12:55 oops, wrong window Mar 13 09:14:28 but they've found the real advantage of the msp Mar 13 09:16:43 the've even added a connector for lipo's. thats what I like olimex boards for Mar 13 09:17:28 lipo? Mar 13 09:17:54 all I see is a 3V battery holder Mar 13 09:18:00 uups, sorry, not that one. Mar 13 09:18:14 which they mislabel as 3V li-ion Mar 13 09:19:26 I have an arduino clone from them which does have a lipo connector and charger. Mar 13 09:22:06 the bone should have such too Mar 13 09:22:19 can't be that expensive Mar 13 09:23:18 I think the new bone has Mar 13 09:23:32 at least some pins brought out Mar 13 09:24:23 av500, some people do not understand our trolling ways Mar 13 09:25:39 yes Mar 13 10:10:14 trolls! Mar 13 10:11:19 smbus Mar 13 10:22:29 If anyone is still interested in my bluetooth over usb issue... I just wrote the latest vanilla beaglebone image on the sdcard and booted the bord: Bluetooth worked fine Mar 13 10:22:49