**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 04 02:59:58 2013 Apr 04 03:03:00 %#$!@#!@# newer sirf chips are annoying Apr 04 03:07:21 ds2: Oh? Apr 04 03:40:13 they are some sensitive on the power rail Apr 04 05:25:20 wheeeee Apr 04 05:30:06 wheeeeee Apr 04 05:32:00 GPS Bee ready for prototyping (similar to http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/gps-bee-kit-with-mini-embedded-antenna-p-560.html except with an MMCX connector, antenna control circuitry, and battery backup pin and /RESET pin pinned out) Apr 04 05:32:08 BAM Apr 04 05:37:28 wheeeeeee Apr 04 05:47:59 net! split! Apr 04 05:48:54 Shadyman, is that a command or response? Apr 04 05:49:05 ka6sox: syn? Apr 04 05:49:16 ka6sox: ack! Apr 04 06:17:26 what did i miss Apr 04 06:17:28 anything Apr 04 06:17:30 nor nothing Apr 04 06:24:46 something Apr 04 06:24:50 both Apr 04 06:35:21 nothing Apr 04 06:35:40 mrpackethead, you need a irssi/znc/whatever server :P Apr 04 06:35:53 somewhere with a better connection. Apr 04 06:35:53 a what? Apr 04 06:36:06 no, i'm just on the move a lot today Apr 04 06:36:17 IRC Bouncer so you don't keep losing information. Apr 04 06:36:28 oh, one of those Apr 04 06:36:30 yeah, maybe Apr 04 06:36:34 i have a server Apr 04 06:36:36 i coudl do that Apr 04 06:36:37 i guess Apr 04 06:59:13 a wonderfull, pre-friday morning everyone! Apr 04 06:59:27 +1 Apr 04 06:59:35 KotH: so now my 2k FLASH is full :) Apr 04 06:59:46 and I havent even implemented knight rider mode Apr 04 07:00:11 av500: lol Apr 04 07:00:17 av500: get a bigger msp Apr 04 07:00:28 av500: the cheap ones are cheap :) Apr 04 07:02:48 I know Apr 04 07:02:51 I have bigger ones Apr 04 07:04:21 KotH: TI offers 2 nice MSPs together with a programmer for $4.30 :) Apr 04 07:09:52 av500: if you have two msps.. why not use them together? it would double your flash :) Apr 04 07:10:42 yes Apr 04 07:10:59 or maybe solder a serial eprom and load overlays? Apr 04 07:11:19 write a VM that executes code from there Apr 04 07:14:18 linux for the msp? ;) Apr 04 07:19:34 morning Apr 04 07:20:04 good moaning Apr 04 07:20:53 moaning indeed Apr 04 07:32:14 moaning (or is that yawning) Apr 04 07:32:34 yarning Apr 04 07:32:44 yoloing Apr 04 07:41:44 * KotH dares av500 to do something very stupid and dangerouse Apr 04 07:47:32 KotH, what would that be? Apr 04 07:51:15 KotH: ha, it was that darn rand() that I put for a test Apr 04 07:51:28 that ate all my mem :) Apr 04 07:56:09 anybody played with cc1100 before? Apr 04 08:15:00 av500: we've a customer who uses a cc1100 to communicate with an implant Apr 04 08:15:02 av500: why? Apr 04 08:15:13 av500: and why the heck is that rand() so big? Apr 04 08:15:56 well, southafrican currency ... Apr 04 08:17:56 KotH: maybe it is NSA approved Apr 04 08:19:22 av500: Any one who considers arithmetical methods of producing random digits is, of course, in a state of sin ;) Apr 04 08:27:55 divide by cos and you get a state of tan without that pesky sun Apr 04 08:28:45 * ogra_ notes that rand is still smaller than for int ... which is the hungarian currency Apr 04 08:42:50 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/T48HFQ Apr 04 08:42:50 kernel/3.8 7c7dc0d Koen Kooi: 3.8: add support for audio capes... Apr 04 08:43:10 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/LHkP0w Apr 04 08:43:10 kernel/3.8 7f0f842 Koen Kooi: 3.8: bump PR in OE recipe... Apr 04 08:43:53 koen: you're too productive! Apr 04 08:44:00 koen: you make the others look bad! Apr 04 08:57:08 koen: I'm testing https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel.git Apr 04 08:57:16 koen: 3.8 branch Apr 04 08:57:21 teh good one Apr 04 08:58:06 koen: what prevents USB from using DMA? Missing Matt's DMA patches? Apr 04 09:02:30 yegorich: mdps patches are for edma Apr 04 09:02:35 yegorich: musb uses cppi Apr 04 09:02:40 different dma controllr Apr 04 09:03:03 I don't know of any patches that add cppi dma support to am335x that actually work Apr 04 09:03:31 yegorich: jkridner is in charge to getting cppi to work with 3.8, you'll need to ask him Apr 04 09:03:40 and jkridner flees the channel :) Apr 04 09:03:46 :) Apr 04 09:06:34 hi Apr 04 09:08:00 use ieee.std_logic_1164.all; Apr 04 09:08:26 pls, trying to attach a 640x480 native lcd to a bone 12.10 armhf but res starts 800x480 Apr 04 09:09:20 installing LXDE (x11) 800x480 is the only resolution possible , but screen truncated Apr 04 09:10:19 any suggestion ? thanks Apr 04 09:10:58 well.. from the very little information you gave it's impossible to tell whether your x11 config is broken, the lcd is not correctly detected or.... Apr 04 09:11:53 and why the heck so do people who use ubuntu think that everyone else does to and thus it isnt worth mentioning? Apr 04 09:13:25 from scratch console I can fbset to 640x480 right (/dev/fb0) but after installing LXDE no /dev/fb0 is created thus no framebuffer/omapfb used ... Apr 04 09:15:03 xserver is using some other video method , neither I have an xorg.conf on my /etc/X11 directory.... Apr 04 09:15:45 have you read X(7) ? Apr 04 09:16:03 did you have a look at /var/log/Xorg.log ? Apr 04 09:17:44 just time to install the re-fried sdcard and I look at it , i'll let you know in minutes Apr 04 09:20:54 fred_tv: so the answer to both questions is "no".... Apr 04 09:22:39 you're right......not yet !! ;-) Apr 04 09:27:24 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/o9pFvA Apr 04 09:27:25 kernel/3.8 558b217 Koen Kooi: 3.8: davinci emac optimization Apr 04 09:28:35 omapfb on beaglebone? Apr 04 09:29:41 koen: pointing out blatant inconsitencies in peoples lifes, is rude Apr 04 09:31:26 koen: O.K. I understand Apr 04 09:32:19 yegorich: you can always send patches :) Apr 04 09:32:31 hooking a DMA, cant be that hard.... Apr 04 09:34:28 I have another iteresting issue. My board has FT2232C built-in. I'm making a test, that opens two ports send/receives data closes both port and this for many cycles. FTDI chip is connected over a USB2.0 hub. Apr 04 09:34:48 I get following errors: [ 2575.999390] ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: ftdi_set_termios FAILED to set databits/stopbits/parity Apr 04 09:35:00 [ 2577.007213] ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: ftdi_set_termios urb failed to set baudrate Apr 04 09:35:09 [ 2587.015080] ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: urb failed to clear flow control Apr 04 09:36:02 with 3.2 arago kernel I had some timeouts for 100 cycles Apr 04 09:36:27 and when connected to the second USB (OTG) port, I had no problem Apr 04 09:36:56 seems to be a problem when 12M devices is handles by a 480M instance Apr 04 09:38:19 If I attach a FT4232H chip there is no problem by both OTG port and second USB port with a hub in between Apr 04 09:38:40 FT4232H can 480M Apr 04 09:43:49 hi, i'm trying to power my BeagleBone with a 3.7V LiPo battery. After going through the docs and forums it was clear that it was doable however i'm having difficulties powering it up using the battery. I initially thought that connecting the battery to the expansion header P6 (BAT, BAT_SENSE and BAT_TEMP, i'm simulating the NTC with a 10k resistor) will be enough but soon i realize this was just for charging issues and the SYS pins of t Apr 04 09:44:16 the SYS_5V at P9 connects to the SYS pins at the PMIC Apr 04 09:44:22 so i did some testing with it Apr 04 09:44:51 but the board LEDs just switches for a moment and turns off Apr 04 09:45:15 anybody could share some experience on this issue? Apr 04 09:46:07 have you checked the voltages on the board? Apr 04 09:46:21 have you checked whether the PMIC does the thing you expect it to do? Apr 04 09:46:33 have you read the datasheet of the PMIC? Apr 04 09:47:19 yegorich: usb hubs are often violating the usb specs Apr 04 09:47:38 yegorich: it could be anything from not enough power to wrong data transfers Apr 04 09:48:12 KotH yes i did it as you recommended before Apr 04 09:48:24 yegorich: i'd try another usb hub from a different manufacturer, or two Apr 04 09:48:29 i might have missed something but i definitely did it Apr 04 09:48:29 erle: and? Apr 04 09:49:04 KotH: O.K. I've noticed a strange behavior on x86 too. I get wrong bytes :-) Apr 04 09:50:42 KotH: It seems I'm not alone: http://www.newit.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=313.0 and http://www.spinics.net/lists/usb/msg04494.html Apr 04 09:51:13 KoTH all right, i missed something actually Apr 04 09:51:39 the SYS pins are output pins Apr 04 09:51:50 i will think about it again Apr 04 09:52:03 thanks KoTH Apr 04 09:53:02 yegorich: could also be that ftdi violates the usb standard ;) Apr 04 09:53:15 there should be some other way to power up the BeagleBone from the battery. I'll figure that out :) Apr 04 09:53:40 * KotH has found many devices that just barely work with windows, because windows is it's own big violation of the standard Apr 04 09:55:11 Windows is the standard Apr 04 09:56:46 violation as standard(tm) Apr 04 10:00:20 nice, now I get support requests in Serbian Apr 04 10:00:27 per email Apr 04 10:00:41 you shouldn't let them know you're one of them... Apr 04 10:00:46 guy's also called Vladimir Apr 04 10:00:47 gobble gobble Apr 04 10:02:15 what does he ask for? Apr 04 10:03:18 dodje mi do "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting kernel." i tu stane. Apr 04 10:03:25 the ususal Apr 04 10:06:51 yegorich: fwiw, I have sometimes up to 4 FTDIs on the PC Apr 04 10:07:02 but all on different ports of the PC Apr 04 10:07:04 not on hubs Apr 04 10:10:29 ah ... kernel no booty booty... Apr 04 10:11:31 da Apr 04 10:17:08 @av500: do you need my test program to trigger the problem? Apr 04 10:18:03 no Apr 04 10:18:28 @av500: what kind of FTDI's do you have? Apr 04 10:18:49 3232 Apr 04 10:18:51 I think Apr 04 10:20:07 @av500: http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/ICs/FT2232D.html Apr 04 10:21:02 might be just 232R or so Apr 04 10:21:22 whats on the sparkfun basic Apr 04 10:21:43 232 r or rl Apr 04 10:22:08 huh, someone trying to spread programs that trigger problems? sound likes a virus ... Apr 04 10:22:10 ;) Apr 04 10:22:31 KotH: http://freethinker.co.uk/images/uploads/2013/04/TOPLESS-JIHAD-DAY-570.jpg Apr 04 10:23:49 oh my Apr 04 10:25:32 awesome! Apr 04 10:25:40 jihad as it was meant to be Apr 04 10:26:41 haha Apr 04 10:27:45 damn.. now they use biological sex bombs Apr 04 11:17:05 mru: lol Apr 04 11:17:09 mru: cool pic! Apr 04 11:39:47 . Apr 04 11:42:12 · Apr 04 11:42:40 ' Apr 04 11:42:50 ` Apr 04 11:51:05 lunch Apr 04 12:02:56 jkridner: I strongly suspect the o3xml binary needs to get rebuilt against node 0.8.x Apr 04 12:03:36 k. we really need a cloud9 ide that runs against 0.8.x :( Apr 04 12:04:22 I've got a thread with the cloud9 ide guys. Apr 04 12:04:29 do you know what version we currently have? Apr 04 12:08:00 jkridner: it says "0.6", but that spans a lot of months judging from their git tree Apr 04 12:08:23 argh Apr 04 12:08:45 jkridner: we run cloud9 still under node 0.4.x, so o3.xml should be working Apr 04 12:09:03 jkridner: I did manage to get gateone working again Apr 04 12:09:14 sweet Apr 04 12:11:55 KotH : Just back from lunch, Bone started with LXDE , looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log , a lot of useful info and some error.... Apr 04 12:12:50 back from luchn? so you do have two cows, which you dont know where they are? Apr 04 12:16:45 ;-)) Apr 04 12:18:44 Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" Apr 04 12:18:52 No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. Apr 04 12:19:16 No screen section available. Using defaults. Apr 04 12:19:27 fred_tv: now comes the part where you are supposed to read X(7) Apr 04 12:19:36 No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Apr 04 12:20:33 I think that a specific monitor section inside xorg.conf.d directory needs some work.... ;-))) Apr 04 12:21:38 and X(7) has to be read.....:-) Apr 04 12:22:05 thanks for the input to a newbie.... Apr 04 12:30:54 jkridner: MLO become a lot slower and a lot more chatty, that explains a large part of the boot delay Apr 04 12:31:07 k. Apr 04 12:31:55 if someone has some time, run grabserial to get the timings and post them in #u-boot Apr 04 12:33:00 and if you're adventurous, change the speed from 550MHz to 720MHz as well :) Apr 04 12:35:20 jkridner: anyway, rebuilding the o3 binary with the new toolchain can't really hurt, could you give that a try? Apr 04 12:35:31 working on it now... Apr 04 12:35:39 I can confirm that is where it is crashing. Apr 04 12:35:49 \o/ Apr 04 12:35:56 another hunch proven to be correct Apr 04 12:36:21 I'm trying to figure out which version of the source to download. Apr 04 12:36:44 I'm going with the latest that was updated about 7 months ago. Apr 04 12:43:48 switching to the binary I host at https://github.com/jadonk/node-o3-xml-v4/tree/master/lib/o3-xml o3-armv7.node works. Apr 04 12:44:55 koen: bad form to simply pull in the working binary? Apr 04 12:46:10 yeah, can't commit that Apr 04 12:46:40 I think I see what's going on Apr 04 12:47:27 it uses the headers from node 0.8 Apr 04 12:47:35 ah Apr 04 12:49:30 I think I can fix that quickly, should have somethign in ~20 minutes Apr 04 12:59:50 hi Apr 04 13:00:02 i am using beaglebone Apr 04 13:00:22 panto: I'm merging musb patches and I'm wondering if the deletion of all the spi/rtc/etc. is needed in 0050-am33xx.dtsi-Make-the-MUSB-not-crash-on-load.patch Apr 04 13:01:01 i am getting following i2cdetect -sh: /usr/local/sbin/i2cdetect: cannot execute binary Apr 04 13:01:08 changing the port mode seems necessary, but I suspect that also happens elsewhere. Apr 04 13:01:31 jkridner, it had to go Apr 04 13:01:35 i2cdetect -sh: /usr/local/sbin/i2cdetect: cannot execute binary file Apr 04 13:01:36 they were duplicates Apr 04 13:01:54 harish__, file /usr/local/sbin/i2cdetect Apr 04 13:02:32 i installed them in the rootfile system Apr 04 13:03:08 k, I'll manually merge the patch against the new usb patches then Apr 04 13:03:19 panto where is the problem? Apr 04 13:03:32 run the command Apr 04 13:03:57 no one fixed upstream? Apr 04 13:04:02 or that just came later? Apr 04 13:04:34 upstream no fixie... Apr 04 13:05:27 when i am running command it is giving as i2cdetect -sh: /usr/local/sbin/i2cdetect: cannot execute binary Apr 04 13:05:58 I mean run file /usr/local/sbin/i2cdetect Apr 04 13:06:06 looks like this is something you've compiled Apr 04 13:06:13 harish__: `file` is a commando Apr 04 13:06:14 jkridner: the deletions are a merge artifact Apr 04 13:06:28 k Apr 04 13:06:57 yess Apr 04 13:10:00 its saying file command not found Apr 04 13:10:13 * jkridner can't see why the patch didn't just apply. Apr 04 13:10:35 yes Apr 04 13:11:15 jkridner: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/cloud9_0.6-r3.5_armv7a-vfp-neon.ipk Apr 04 13:11:34 jkridner: can you give that a try? Apr 04 13:11:44 (or extract the o3 from there, prolly faster) Apr 04 13:11:51 so can i dolike this comile dynamically and copy i2cdetect Apr 04 13:12:46 is it works Apr 04 13:13:23 downloading the .ipk now Apr 04 13:13:27 harish__: why not use the i2cdetect that came installed by default? Apr 04 13:14:13 koen: do you have any idea how to add building of 'dtc' to the kernel recipe? I keep getting stuck every time I make an attempt to add it. Apr 04 13:15:18 you mean cross building it? Apr 04 13:18:17 there's a standalone version of it, don't know if panto has the overlay patches for that Apr 04 13:19:51 koen: I've not seen any patches against the standalone version. Apr 04 13:20:05 the only version I know that works is the one in the compiler (with panto's patches) Apr 04 13:20:24 I've built it natively, but haven't been able to cross-compile it. Apr 04 13:20:32 just want it included if possible. Apr 04 13:20:55 was also planning on adding 'mpd' for a demo. Apr 04 13:21:17 * jkridner can't find a good recipe for 'scratch', which would have been great to have on the desktop. Apr 04 13:21:31 cloud9 install is taking a long time. :) Apr 04 13:22:16 odd that it is cpu bound, not I/O bound Apr 04 13:23:08 jkridner: 'musicpd' should have a recipe Apr 04 13:23:13 it did have that in oe classic Apr 04 13:23:57 there is an 'mpd' recipe already and it builds fine. just need to add it to the image. possibly feeds would be good enough, but I think it makes a nice demo for the hdmi audio, if we ever get that working. Apr 04 13:24:07 ka6sox-away: ? Apr 04 13:24:29 ok, cloud9 works for me Apr 04 13:25:12 * jkridner is surprised you didn't add the autorestart Apr 04 13:25:22 ah Apr 04 13:25:26 is that still needed? Apr 04 13:25:44 I added it locally, but it didn't help since the crash has in o3-xml Apr 04 13:25:53 well, I think it would help in more cases than it hurts. Apr 04 13:25:58 right. Apr 04 13:26:22 just that newbs won't be able to recover from their crashes with 'systemctl restart cloud9.service' Apr 04 13:26:32 * jkridner doesn't feel very strongly about it, just surprised Apr 04 13:27:26 guess the gateone fix wasn't in the release-before-last? Apr 04 13:27:42 I can confirm your new cloud9 ipk is working! Apr 04 13:28:24 * jkridner goes back to usb patches and bone101/bonescript/getting-started-guide patches Apr 04 13:28:34 jkridner: autorestart pushed Apr 04 13:28:51 jkridner: if you want to try it, add 'Restart=always' in the [Service] section Apr 04 13:29:43 jkridner: I fixed gateone a few seconds before I mentioned it on irc :) Apr 04 13:29:51 ah. :) Apr 04 13:30:35 I'm now cleaning up the feeds to make 'opkg update ; opkg upgrade' work again Apr 04 13:47:30 frak Apr 04 13:47:37 my x201 does not like my ssd :( Apr 04 13:51:01 Getting opkg upgrade to work reliably on live systems is fun. Nothing like running out of flash space or ram while upgrading :) Apr 04 14:00:51 av500, if you need somewhere to ship an SSD, I'll give you my address :) Apr 04 14:08:23 grrr, damn BB white is mocking me this morning! Apr 04 14:08:42 BBW Apr 04 14:09:07 i was going to type that, but didn't want to set myself up :/ Apr 04 14:09:21 bradfa: ok Apr 04 14:10:20 hmmm, plugged it in, and the damn thing is just sitting there with the power LED on and nothing else Apr 04 14:10:52 * wmat suspects PEBKAC Apr 04 14:11:50 serial, bootlog, pastebin Apr 04 14:11:56 * KotH suspects the daemon with the name sparkysparky cauthg a new victim Apr 04 14:12:21 * av500 curses Plextor Apr 04 14:13:13 Plextor used to make awesome hardware, now they just rebrand afaik Apr 04 14:13:36 plextor still exists? Apr 04 14:13:36 heh, there it goes. Apparently 3rd time is a charm after all. Apr 04 14:13:36 I Apr 04 14:13:42 I'll just send that SSD back Apr 04 14:14:02 av500: your bios didn't like it? Apr 04 14:14:06 Corsair m4 or the intel SSD's are apparently the ones to get Apr 04 14:14:27 or samsung 840 pro Apr 04 14:14:38 yeah, as long as it's the pro versions Apr 04 14:14:52 yep Apr 04 14:14:59 gonna pick it up tonight Apr 04 14:15:03 av500: if the bios plays up, there are patches to enable all drives, pcie, etc cards, just need to reflash the bios. Apr 04 14:15:10 dm8tbr: tell me Apr 04 14:15:11 I've have nothing but success with my Kingston V200+'s aswell Apr 04 14:15:21 dm8tbr: I flashed latest lenovo bios Apr 04 14:15:27 it finds the drive sometimes Apr 04 14:15:37 basically, power on it finds the drive in BIOS Apr 04 14:15:38 ah, so it doesn't refuse the drive? Apr 04 14:15:45 CTRL-ALT-DEL and the drive is gone Apr 04 14:15:55 ok, that's different Apr 04 14:15:59 diag in bios sometimes works Apr 04 14:16:05 I'm not gonna risk that Apr 04 14:16:09 yup Apr 04 14:16:14 an OCZ works Apr 04 14:16:18 but is too small Apr 04 14:16:53 zimbo has the 256 840 pro Apr 04 14:17:09 lets help the local economy :) Apr 04 14:17:25 dm8tbr: no, drive is not refused Apr 04 14:17:30 just flaky Apr 04 14:18:30 hmm.. ssd's of suitable size still cost nearly as much as i paid for the laptop... Apr 04 14:20:11 200 for 256GB Apr 04 14:23:30 typo in 'git checkout' line lost all my merges. :( Apr 04 14:23:48 git reflog? Apr 04 14:23:48 av500: i need >300G Apr 04 14:23:57 KotH: the 512 is 400 Apr 04 14:24:06 av500: german prices... Apr 04 14:24:50 here they are 600chf up... and i paid 800 for my x220 Apr 04 14:25:19 800chf? Apr 04 14:25:26 studen price :) Apr 04 14:25:27 for a 220? Apr 04 14:25:32 student* Apr 04 14:25:35 hmmm, I'm a student Apr 04 14:25:49 * florian feels younger now ;) Apr 04 14:25:49 yes, but you dont get subsidized by the swiss government :) Apr 04 14:26:03 florian: high school student? ;) Apr 04 14:26:28 :-) Apr 04 14:26:49 x230i for 714€ Apr 04 14:27:10 230 for 1155 Apr 04 14:28:47 iirc the x220 tablet was 1200chf back when i bought mine Apr 04 14:29:00 av500: you are clearly being ripped off! ;) Apr 04 14:34:10 good moaning alan_o Apr 04 14:36:47 hi KotH Apr 04 14:37:51 mourning folks Apr 04 14:38:00 hoi mdp Apr 04 14:38:08 HELO Apr 04 14:38:34 501 Syntactically invalid HELO argument(s) Apr 04 14:38:50 NO CARRIER Apr 04 14:39:06 * KotH hands bradfa some pigeons Apr 04 14:39:15 * bradfa gets pooped on Apr 04 14:41:37 oohhh, an ipv6 user Apr 04 14:41:55 I just found out my line is supported. now to update my hardware...... Apr 04 14:42:41 * dm8tbr prods his ISP, once again Apr 04 14:42:58 I don't have any hope that they'll support that for consumer connections any time soon Apr 04 14:43:46 alan_o: there are many of those Apr 04 14:43:49 they rolled it out for 'business' connections and keep beating their chest how cool they are supporting ipv6. just that their business connection is not easily available in my flat, and it's 10dB more expensive Apr 04 14:44:01 alan_o: even i am one... though for some reason irssi chooses to use ipv4 instead Apr 04 14:44:23 * dm8tbr is here also over ipv6 Apr 04 14:44:35 dm8tbr: tell them, that i have a home adsl connection and have a /48 for nearly two years now Apr 04 14:45:21 * dm8tbr doesn't even remember how long he's had ipv6, sadly native only at the university Apr 04 14:46:11 KotH: My ISP upgraded just recently Apr 04 14:47:01 alan_o: heh.. better than our isp at work: last time i asked about their ipv6 plans i got "there is no customer demand for ipv6 yet" ^^' Apr 04 14:49:43 they should just go and liberate all the unused ipv4 Apr 04 14:49:51 that would buy us another decade Apr 04 14:50:15 the argument "routers cannot have routing tables" does not count any more Apr 04 15:08:22 bradfa: please remind me, which 5V pin is hooked up to the barrel? Apr 04 15:08:26 bradfa: SYS_5V? Apr 04 15:20:07 av500: i think the main problem with the routingtable is its size Apr 04 15:20:40 av500: last i heard (a couple of years ago) the bgp table was something around 500MB Apr 04 15:21:50 av500: i actually dont know, how they manage to find the correct route at the required speed in such a huge table Apr 04 15:22:18 ah, VDD_5V Apr 04 15:32:39 SYS_5V comes out of PMIC Apr 04 15:32:46 and it's not always 5V :) Apr 04 15:34:19 koen ^ Apr 04 15:36:38 bradfa: thanks! Apr 04 15:36:47 bradfa: I tracked it down to an underpowered PSU Apr 04 15:36:55 move a servo, *poof* Apr 04 15:37:36 koen, run a lithium battery, PMIC will source from there when AC or USB can't supply enough Apr 04 15:37:46 so long as you don't care about USB Apr 04 15:38:43 I'll hook up a 20A PSU first Apr 04 15:40:46 koen, I assume we're not talking about the bone pulling too much current anymore... :) Apr 04 15:41:08 no, I'm powering the servo controllers from VDD_5V Apr 04 15:42:19 koen, um... Apr 04 15:42:45 * jackmitchell listens for sizzling dog Apr 04 15:42:55 watch out for the voltage protection device Apr 04 15:43:01 it's no 0 ohm Apr 04 15:43:32 max current is 2 A on the ncp349 Apr 04 15:44:02 er, actually, that shouldn't be a problem for you Apr 04 15:44:05 nm Apr 04 15:48:02 hey all Apr 04 15:48:08 * bradfa slaps mranostay Apr 04 15:48:22 * bradfa notices it's not friday yet... Apr 04 15:49:12 for me it is Apr 04 15:49:29 go go vacation! Apr 04 15:49:42 post fuzzy photos to g+ while you're on vaca Apr 04 15:53:37 bradfa: i have a real phone thank you Apr 04 15:54:22 you could put some grease on the lens Apr 04 15:54:38 mranostay, drink lots of coffee then take pictures Apr 04 15:54:49 lots and lots of coffee Apr 04 16:02:55 bradfa: nothing can beat your Nokia crap phone though Apr 04 16:03:25 mranostay, I used to have a Motorola F3 Apr 04 16:03:52 Apparently I enjoy crap phones Apr 04 16:04:02 on t-mo Apr 04 16:06:35 crap provider to boot Apr 04 16:11:53 bradfa: you still don't have a black? Apr 04 16:11:56 er next-gen Apr 04 16:13:36 mranostay, mine's an A4, I want an A5 Apr 04 16:13:42 need pmic header Apr 04 16:13:51 without pmic header I stick with whites Apr 04 16:15:58 racist Apr 04 16:16:06 * bradfa runs! Apr 04 16:17:12 PWR_BUT would be nice to have, too Apr 04 16:18:05 they took that off? Apr 04 16:18:23 or this on the pmic header? Apr 04 16:18:25 next spin of our cape will probably happen once I can do some testing with A5 "next-gen" bones Apr 04 16:18:32 mranostay, on A4 there's no pmic header Apr 04 16:18:40 it returns on A5 Apr 04 16:19:23 in a 'small form factor' Apr 04 16:19:34 and with less 'kill ethernet!' abilities Apr 04 16:20:33 I like to think pmic header lives partly due to my bitching Apr 04 16:20:39 bradfa: just keep the backlight at 100% or 0% problem solved Apr 04 16:20:45 mranostay, that's no fun Apr 04 16:21:05 granted, displays aren't my thing Apr 04 16:21:42 the nice part of the 'next-gen' bones will be ordering 'white label' versions :) Apr 04 16:24:49 white label blacks Apr 04 16:43:20 hello Apr 04 16:44:03 i'm not understanding if the 4 serial ports on the bb rev a6 can be used directly (by just placing wires on the tx, rx and gnd headers), or if i need a dedicated cape instead. any hint? Apr 04 16:44:51 did you check the SRM? Apr 04 16:45:58 yep, but can't figure out, still have doubts Apr 04 17:05:03 samael: what is it your trying to accomplish? Apr 04 17:34:42 [kernel] RobertCNelson opened pull request #34: cape add replicape 00A1 (3.8...3.8-replicape-review) http://git.io/zfvOfA Apr 04 17:35:27 mru on holiday again? Apr 04 17:36:20 maybe he went to visit some trolls over the easter weekend Apr 04 17:38:09 Trolls on Holiday? Apr 04 17:49:29 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 2 new commits to 3.8: http://git.io/1lNLqw Apr 04 17:49:29 kernel/3.8 6a63162 Robert Nelson: cape add replicape 00A1... Apr 04 17:49:29 kernel/3.8 4b23f0f Koen Kooi: Merge pull request #34 from RobertCNelson/3.8-replicape-review... Apr 04 17:58:50 troll troll troll Apr 04 18:02:26 wb Apr 04 18:02:40 trolliffic Apr 04 18:11:46 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/-onQ2w Apr 04 18:11:46 kernel/3.8 e1bffc1 Koen Kooi: 3.8: fix cape slot numbering... Apr 04 18:17:29 * mdp wonders if slot numbering was in fortran before. Apr 04 18:17:57 alan_o: I get a ton of irqs, is that a know problem with the mrf? Apr 04 18:23:40 has anyone determined if VBUS is used at all if ID pin on the AM335x USB port is grounded (i.e. like on the Bone)? Apr 04 18:24:41 VBUS input to the bone Apr 04 18:24:48 to the AM335x I mean Apr 04 18:25:15 koen: hmm.. A ton of IRQs with no INTSTAT set? Apr 04 18:25:44 I put in some debug statements to check for that sometimes and haven't observed it Apr 04 18:26:06 koen: I used to have to run with tickless disabled, but on the most recent 3.8, it seems like it does work with tickless. Apr 04 18:38:48 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/fcDPAw Apr 04 18:38:48 kernel/3.8 1434bcd Koen Kooi: 3.8: drop replicape patch, it breaks ADC Apr 04 18:39:04 alan_o: cat /proc/interupts Apr 04 18:39:10 hi BeagleGithub Apr 04 18:39:22 alan_o: spi gets a few thousand a minute Apr 04 18:40:48 koen: 205: 5055 GPIO spi1.0 Apr 04 18:41:05 koen: the number increases with each packet tx/rx Apr 04 18:41:13 koen: sits idle otherwise Apr 04 18:41:25 <_av500_> samael: you have to set thte correct pin muxing for all the serial ports Apr 04 18:41:47 <_av500_> samael: if you need other levels than 3.3V then you need some kind of cape Apr 04 18:42:08 <_av500_> this ssh in chrome sucks Apr 04 18:42:25 _av500_: javascript :) Apr 04 18:44:55 <_av500_> alan_o: nope Apr 04 18:44:57 <_av500_> NaCl Apr 04 18:45:14 <_av500_> but ALT amd CTRL are eqten by the browser Apr 04 18:45:24 <_av500_> eaten* Apr 04 18:45:45 _av500_: that's ok, everybody uses vi anyway Apr 04 18:45:58 <_av500_> dm8tbr: it seems to like the samsung Apr 04 18:46:51 mrpackethead: happy Friday Apr 04 18:47:04 in deed Apr 04 18:47:36 _av500_: \o/ Apr 04 18:47:46 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/18 Apr 04 18:47:49 Hi. Would the binary blob driver for the PowerVG SGX chip on the beagleboard work with a rt-patched linux kernel ? Apr 04 18:56:27 jkroon: try and find out Apr 04 18:57:12 dm8tbr, yeah im gonna just was curious if anyone in here had already tried Apr 04 19:06:17 alan_o: http://hastebin.com/dobavutevu.mel Apr 04 19:06:22 alan_o: a thousan per second Apr 04 19:06:31 alan_o: I ran your setup script Apr 04 19:06:34 should be idling Apr 04 19:06:52 * koen wonders if the irq is hooked up wrong, too many wires Apr 04 19:11:35 koen: hmm... Apr 04 19:12:37 koen: stick a printk in mrf24j40_isr() Apr 04 19:13:01 koen: 1000 per second doesn't even seem possible Apr 04 19:13:34 because the ISR kicks off a work struct.and the IRQ is disabled until the work struct returns Apr 04 19:15:21 hmm I guess 1ms is a long time. We're not talking about userspace task switching. Apr 04 19:16:19 IRQF_TRIGGER_FALLING is set up in the driver, so it's not detecting a level.... Apr 04 19:16:42 pull the wire and see if it still happens. Apr 04 19:17:37 good night all Apr 04 19:18:00 later panto Apr 04 19:23:02 alan_o: stops when I pull the pin Apr 04 19:24:03 koen: hmm... Apr 04 19:24:08 koen: scope? Apr 04 19:24:22 koen: can it possibly be rising/falling that fast? Apr 04 19:24:43 what does INTSTAT show in mrf24j40_isrwork()? Apr 04 19:28:03 don't have code at hand right now Apr 04 19:28:10 I'll look into it tomorrow Apr 04 19:28:30 ok Apr 04 19:28:32 it is strange Apr 04 19:28:45 I'll keep an eye on /proc/interrupts Apr 04 19:28:54 and see if something makes it happen here Apr 04 19:29:54 alan_o: any exact steps online to make 2 beagles see eachother Apr 04 19:30:07 uuhh... Apr 04 19:30:08 (provided I modify the script to give them unique IPs) Apr 04 19:30:15 should be just that Apr 04 19:30:16 yeah Apr 04 19:30:24 and unique hw addrs Apr 04 19:30:57 maybe you have a smoke detector or something that's blowing out 1000 packets a second on channel 11 :) Apr 04 19:32:13 I have a "smart meter" 2 stories lower Apr 04 19:32:21 what are we doing? Apr 04 19:32:22 put I don't know if that's zigbee or 6lowpan Apr 04 19:32:28 mranostay: 6lowpan testing Apr 04 19:32:35 kinky Apr 04 19:32:53 alan_o: they have 6lowpan smoke detectors? Apr 04 19:34:22 it would just have to be 802.15.4 Apr 04 19:34:29 but Apr 04 19:34:45 it would have to be on the right PAN and it would have to be sending broadcast or to your long or short address Apr 04 19:34:50 * koen heads downstairs Apr 04 19:35:27 mranostay: I saw one at the microchip conference (smoke detector with mrf24j40ma attached to it) Apr 04 19:45:18 koen: receiving 1000 packets per second seems unlikely. They'd have to be really short packets. Apr 04 19:47:38 koen: hmm, I guess if they were around 20-25 bytes or less, it's possible (250Kb/sec) Apr 04 19:48:13 koen: to be sure, run tcpdump -i wpan0 -w out.dump and see what you get Apr 04 19:49:34 off to the airport to get some love from TSA Apr 04 19:49:44 whoo baby Apr 04 19:51:37 mranostay: make them pat you down Apr 04 20:08:21 <_av500_> http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/no-humor-zone-33-things-you-should-never-say-tsa-agent Apr 04 20:08:26 <_av500_> just scrolled by Apr 04 20:12:35 trool Apr 04 20:13:43 _av500_: Apr 04 20:13:43 While an Officer was conducting an explosive trace sample at Orlando (MCO), the passenger stated: "I hope the residue doesn't show up on the test." Apr 04 20:13:58 _av500_: I've wondered what if I had just been shooting my gun that morning? Apr 04 20:14:24 alan_o you vote for it Apr 04 20:15:02 woglinde: nobody voted for the TSA Apr 04 20:15:44 (congress maybe? or was that executive action..) Either way it wasn't on my ballot. Apr 04 20:17:15 hmm... http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/hockey-sticks-pocket-knives-and-billiard-cues-among-carry-items-tsa-will-soon-let-onboard-planes: "knives with non-locking blades smaller than 2.36 inches" Apr 04 20:17:50 blades was allowed? Apr 04 20:17:52 odd Apr 04 20:17:58 woglinde: not yet. Apr 04 20:18:05 Apr 25 it says Apr 04 20:18:09 ah sorry Apr 04 20:18:09 but that's not much of a blade Apr 04 20:18:15 I somehow read not Apr 04 20:18:54 I had heard "pocket knives" from other outlets and assumed, a normal 4" knife. Too bad. Baby steps I guess.... Apr 04 20:19:24 <_av500_> alan_o: take your gun and overthrow TSA Apr 04 20:19:29 <_av500_> :) Apr 04 20:19:44 <_av500_> leave lots of residue in the process Apr 04 20:19:51 yeah bruce willis style Apr 04 20:32:31 <_av500_> gangnam style Apr 04 20:38:28 hi all Apr 04 20:38:41 mranostay_sjc: patdown? Apr 04 20:38:43 hi mranostay Apr 04 20:38:44 nope Apr 04 20:38:50 body scanner? Apr 04 20:39:10 nope Apr 04 20:39:14 lucky? Apr 04 20:45:04 alan_o: good old metal detectors Apr 04 21:06:00 koen: chromium built Apr 04 21:06:40 http://ec2-174-129-138-78.compute-1.amazonaws.com/oe/build/tmp-angstrom_v2012_12-eglibc/deploy/ipk/armv7a-vfp-neon/chromium_19.0.1049.3-r1_armv7a-vfp-neon.ipk Apr 04 21:06:49 looking for the runtime library dependencies now Apr 04 21:10:38 jkridner still 19 is old Apr 04 21:10:50 no webrtc and so on Apr 04 21:10:52 patches welcome. :) Apr 04 21:11:01 * jkridner is happy to see it built. Apr 04 21:11:21 I was happy to see chromium 26 build for arm Apr 04 21:11:27 for ubuntu Apr 04 21:11:40 and the fix was easy Apr 04 21:12:05 ups chromium 25 Apr 04 21:12:56 woglinde: javascript is the fountain of youth Apr 04 21:13:23 blink it Apr 04 21:15:03 * mru thought don't blink was the rule Apr 04 21:16:34 hm international day of topless jihad Apr 04 21:17:12 <_av500_> mru: googled blinked Apr 04 21:17:15 <_av500_> -d Apr 04 21:17:37 where is koth Apr 04 21:17:43 o/ Apr 04 21:20:27 hehe Apr 04 21:20:34 did you see that? Apr 04 21:21:03 I can not post the picture here Apr 04 21:21:28 * mru posted one Apr 04 21:21:51 of the topless jihad day? Apr 04 21:25:03 <_av500_> yes Apr 04 21:25:08 okay Apr 04 21:25:16 g+? Apr 04 21:34:47 <_av500_> ng- Apr 04 21:40:00 mranostay_sjc: http://freethinker.co.uk/images/uploads/2013/04/TOPLESS-JIHAD-DAY-570.jpg Apr 04 21:43:20 * mru is not afraid of binary boobs Apr 04 21:43:46 <_av500_> mru: how do I know from inside a makefile if its lib or lib64? Apr 04 21:44:41 av500? Apr 04 21:44:47 april joke? Apr 04 21:45:14 <_av500_> no Apr 04 21:47:01 av500 you mean if it should be installed under lib or lib64? Apr 04 21:47:28 <_av500_> hmm, seems uname -m Apr 04 22:00:35 _av500_: there's no way to tell Apr 04 22:01:19 uname -m tells you the machine architecture Apr 04 22:01:33 but not if it runs 32bit Apr 04 22:01:59 32-bit userland on 64-bit kernel gets iffy Apr 04 22:02:21 at least ppc64 reports based on kernel only Apr 04 22:02:21 woglinde: dont worry, i've already seen those tits Apr 04 22:03:07 <_av500_> mru: uname -a is enough for my purposes Apr 04 22:03:28 av500 you could readelf init Apr 04 22:03:42 still not good enough Apr 04 22:03:48 mru not? Apr 04 22:03:50 why Apr 04 22:03:52 different systems have different conventions on same hw Apr 04 22:04:12 and you could be cross-compiling Apr 04 22:04:22 <_av500_> yeah Apr 04 22:04:30 or semi-cross-compiling 32-bit on 64-bit Apr 04 22:04:36 ah right you have no configure Apr 04 22:04:40 poor makefile Apr 04 22:04:49 <_av500_> so ppor Apr 04 22:04:51 <_av500_> poor Apr 04 22:04:58 use a variable and default to lib Apr 04 22:05:03 let user override if it's not Apr 04 22:05:33 that has the best chance of working Apr 04 22:05:48 and its not hardcoded Apr 04 22:05:59 mru: you mean throwing it over the fence at the user :) Apr 04 22:06:02 like most poor Makefile writers do Apr 04 22:06:22 most 64-bit systems either use lib directly or symlink lib to lib64 Apr 04 22:06:35 <_av500_> suse does neither Apr 04 22:06:43 suse is fucked then Apr 04 22:06:54 <_av500_> totally Apr 04 22:07:16 suse puts 32-bit in lib? Apr 04 22:07:22 <_av500_> seems so Apr 04 22:07:31 that is well and truly fucked Apr 04 22:07:37 <_av500_> sec Apr 04 22:08:11 <_av500_> /lib/ld-2.17.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, Apr 04 22:08:21 <_av500_> /lib64/ld-2.17.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, Apr 04 22:09:05 the dynamic loader is extra special Apr 04 22:09:45 good nite Apr 04 22:10:04 <_av500_> all others seems 32 bit too Apr 04 22:10:15 32-bit x86 executables always for historical reasons request an interpreter from /lib Apr 04 22:11:18 on my system /lib/ld-linux.so.2 is a symlink into /lib32 Apr 04 22:11:48 <_av500_> not here Apr 04 22:12:36 64-bit executables use /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 Apr 04 22:17:40 now _most_ systems keep the libs in the same dir as the interpreter Apr 04 22:17:42 but not all Apr 04 22:18:15 does it matter where the libs are kepted? Apr 04 22:18:25 it does if you're trying to install them Apr 04 22:18:48 for a modern interpreter, why does even that matter? Apr 04 22:18:49 but it's usually the distro people's job to worry about that Apr 04 22:18:57 ds2: elf interpreter Apr 04 22:19:13 but most modern ones are configureable as to where to look for htem Apr 04 22:19:33 the only thing that is usually hard coded is ldso in its various flavors Apr 04 22:19:37 yes, and that's why you can never tell Apr 04 22:20:01 and then there are the non-elf systems... Apr 04 22:20:07 non ELF is fun :D Apr 04 22:20:24 or braindead ELF (*ahem* Android) Apr 04 22:20:29 and I'm talking about non-elf unixes Apr 04 22:20:49 aix, tru64, ... Apr 04 22:22:35 yes... or even libc4 Apr 04 22:22:50 <_av500_> these other unices still exist? Apr 04 22:23:05 the bsd people talk like ELF is not necessary, and that a.out was just fine if GNU people did stuff smarter. What do you think about that mru? Apr 04 22:23:07 * mru has a working tru64 system Apr 04 22:23:22 ELF is not necesary Apr 04 22:23:28 but it's damn nice to hav Apr 04 22:23:30 e Apr 04 22:24:11 from a security standpoint, not really Apr 04 22:24:32 statically linked is fine Apr 04 22:24:44 no chance of symbol interposition there Apr 04 22:24:57 yes but it breaks the nice to have argument Apr 04 22:25:23 it's still nicer to work with elf object files than some of the other formats Apr 04 22:25:50 i find plain bin formats nicer (similar to DOS .COM stuff) Apr 04 22:26:24 yeah, but you have a thing for nand flash too... Apr 04 22:27:23 <_av500_> yeah Apr 04 22:28:22 <_av500_> so, now that we have /run/media/$user, wtf is /media for? Apr 04 22:28:35 * mru has neither Apr 04 22:28:36 no, that would be for NOR flash :P Apr 04 23:41:31 i hate that Apr 04 23:41:50 component was created wrong in the compinent library Apr 05 00:49:34 anyone got a early version of the BeBoPr cape? Apr 05 01:21:47 arrrgh Apr 05 01:21:56 ftdi driver is screwed up Apr 05 01:21:58 hgrrra Apr 05 01:22:12 and something is holding it open, or something. Apr 05 01:22:19 bottom line, I have to reboot if I want to use my bone Apr 05 01:27:09 eh? Apr 05 01:27:13 unplug and replug Apr 05 01:27:47 ds2: not if the ftdi driver is hosed up Apr 05 01:28:00 might have been this hub Apr 05 01:28:05 sometimes my hub gets confused Apr 05 01:31:34 *shrug* Apr 05 01:42:03 hi Apr 05 01:42:28 PDX? you got exported? Apr 05 01:42:31 do I want to know why you are in PDX? Apr 05 01:43:40 heh Apr 05 01:45:28 probably not Apr 05 01:45:49 ds2: don't you mean dexported? Apr 05 01:48:00 it isn't that weird so far Apr 05 01:48:13 maybe SF brought up my tolerences Apr 05 01:49:12 Good Food in PDX Apr 05 02:09:09 mranostay_pdx, I have a few friends in PDX, they all like it Apr 05 02:09:22 I was out there last summer for a wedding, was nice Apr 05 02:10:18 bradfa_: how are their picture taking skills? Apr 05 02:11:58 mranostay_pdx, not fuzzy Apr 05 02:12:26 let's see, Intel, Nike, Adidas, Mentor... who's mranostay_pdx going to visit? Apr 05 02:12:33 Linus? Apr 05 02:13:05 heh Apr 05 02:13:45 :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 05 02:59:58 2013