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Apr 06 03:00:12 * ka6sox sends a dollar to spain (or better yet a '165)
Apr 06 03:01:29 <ka6sox> wire it up to an SPI port...a bit of Python...and Bob's yer Uncle.
Apr 06 03:02:20 <mdp> no javascript?
Apr 06 03:03:30 * ka6sox wonders if the node.js has access to the SPI stuff...
Apr 06 03:04:38 <ka6sox> I doubt the node js can clear the buffer fast enough :P
Apr 06 03:06:05 <mdp> there's a whole subculture writing node.js extensions around C libraries
Apr 06 03:06:23 <mdp> no different than the awesome world of Ada bindings
Apr 06 03:06:37 <ka6sox> ada FTW!
Apr 06 03:06:38 <mdp> ok, it is different
Apr 06 03:06:52 * mdp used to maintain ada95 codez ;)
Apr 06 03:07:21 <mdp> thank goodness it was pure baremetal 68k code
Apr 06 03:07:37 <mdp> ada95 was fine, I could grok it
Apr 06 03:11:26 <ka6sox> i like it :)
Apr 06 03:12:52 <mdp> my only issue was seeing people dealing with all the impracticalities of having to acquire or write bindings for all the industry standard C libraries out there
Apr 06 03:13:22 <mdp> DoD fixed all this by simply granting exceptions 100% of the time to allow use of C
Apr 06 03:13:27 <mdp> problem went away ;)
Apr 06 03:14:21 <mdp> ka6sox, it's one reason I can read VHDL as easily as Verilog..had to fix a ton of ada code back then
Apr 06 03:29:36 <mrpacket_> anyone like to hazzard a guess why the Soft-UART implementation on the PRU ( http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Soft-UART_Implementation_on_AM335X_PRU_-_Software_Users_Guide ) maxes out at 115200
Apr 06 03:37:39 <mdp> note the PRUs existed long before AM335x...and docs vary...no need to guess
Apr 06 03:38:00 <mdp> check out the analysis in section 3 of the omapl138 version of that: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Soft-UART_Implementation_on_OMAPL_PRU_-_Software_Users_Guide#Calculating_Number_of_Supported_Soft-UARTs
Apr 06 03:38:09 <mdp> it has more detail
Apr 06 03:38:31 <mdp> bbt
Apr 06 05:38:58 <mrpackethead> mdp, thanks!
Apr 06 06:37:22 <mranostay> morning
Apr 06 06:37:44 <mranostay> i didn't even leave the timezone and my sleep is messed up
Apr 06 06:39:31 <dm8tbr> hehe
Apr 06 06:40:46 * mranostay was expecting herds of wild octupus in Oregon
Apr 06 06:42:02 <dm8tbr> but all you got was a beagle humping your leg?
Apr 06 06:43:32 <mranostay> woot CTI headers here
Apr 06 06:44:02 <dm8tbr> computer-telephony-integration?
Apr 06 06:45:35 <mranostay> no compact TI JTAG headers
Apr 06 06:45:58 * mranostay wonders when Samtec will stop the sample flow
Apr 06 06:46:14 <mranostay> i want to tell them the UPS Next Air really isn't needed :)
Apr 06 06:57:13 <Russ> did they send them in 3 foot tubes?
Apr 06 06:57:21 <Russ> that's how mine came
Apr 06 06:57:57 <Russ> I did make some cables, it was pretty easy
Apr 06 07:00:33 <Russ> http://www.flickr.com/photos/russdill/8621664649/
Apr 06 07:02:42 <woglinde_> gm mranostay
Apr 06 07:02:42 <dm8tbr> nice touch there with the beagle :)
Apr 06 07:03:07 <Russ> unfortunately, I put the wrong inductor on the supplies, so I need to wait for new ones
Apr 06 07:04:32 <Russ> and I need more vertical clearance because the beaglebone barrel connector, so I need longer pinned 48 pin connectors
Apr 06 07:09:11 <mranostay> Russ: you are missing a DIP chip
Apr 06 07:09:41 <mranostay> Russ: what does the Tick do?
Apr 06 07:25:24 <mranostay> Russ: what does the tick do? :)
Apr 06 07:26:15 <Russ> what doesn't it do!
Apr 06 07:26:39 <Russ> 2 port USB hub, ft2232h controlling I2C, JTAG, serial, and three GPIOs
Apr 06 07:26:43 <Russ> 4 GPIOs
Apr 06 07:26:55 <Russ> I2S connects to current/voltage monitor
Apr 06 07:27:00 <Russ> er,  I2C
Apr 06 07:27:22 <Russ> GPIOs connect to power button, reset button, pass through power control, and JTAG/I2C selector
Apr 06 07:27:55 <Russ> beaglebone is powered through stacking connector (and USB passthrough if used)
Apr 06 07:28:11 <Russ> but with the 2.2nH inductors rather than 2.2uH, it just looks pretty
Apr 06 07:28:48 <Russ> and the regulators do a good job of heating the general area around them
Apr 06 07:29:21 <mranostay> heh
Apr 06 07:29:49 <dm8tbr> hmm, this sounds pretty close to the ARM power probe
Apr 06 07:29:54 <keesj> the black doesn't have jtag right?
Apr 06 07:30:05 <Russ> it doesn't have an ft2232h
Apr 06 07:30:11 <Russ> it still has a spot for a jtag connector
Apr 06 07:30:33 * dm8tbr is still looking for something like that, but as an open hardware design so that it would be useful for hobby projects
Apr 06 07:30:51 <keesj> something like http://www.tag-connect.com/  or a real 14 pins thingy
Apr 06 07:31:30 <Russ> dm8tbr, I have no problem BSD'ing any of the design files
Apr 06 07:32:20 <dm8tbr> Russ: thanks, I appreciate that and might actually come back to your offer regarding some of your designs. they look quite useful
Apr 06 07:32:47 <dm8tbr> also the rs232 pass-through with DTR power control is nice
Apr 06 07:33:24 <dm8tbr> could be very useful for automated testing of boards in e.g. a LAVA setup
Apr 06 07:36:10 <keesj> Russ: it sound like something very usefull (for me). is the jtag compatible with openocd or code composer studio (e.g. xds1xx )
Apr 06 07:37:02 <Russ> its the same configuration as the beaglebone white and xds100v2
Apr 06 07:37:49 <keesj> ok. nice, i have used that setup (using ccs) in the last months
Apr 06 07:38:12 <mrpackethead> grumpy.. i just lsot my phone
Apr 06 07:39:37 <woglinde> mrpackethead what?
Apr 06 07:39:50 <mrpackethead> phone lost
Apr 06 07:39:53 <mrpackethead> grrr.
Apr 06 07:40:08 <woglinde> I wonder how
Apr 06 08:11:38 <_av500_> ahoi
Apr 06 08:34:00 <woglinde> gm av500
Apr 06 08:50:53 * _av500_ fights gnu make
Apr 06 08:53:50 <woglinde> hehe
Apr 06 08:54:06 <woglinde> make it opensource so other can add autotools
Apr 06 08:54:14 <_av500_> haha
Apr 06 08:54:30 <_av500_> 3.81 tests fail on recent linux
Apr 06 09:07:23 <mrpackethead> i've just realised that my dmx cape design wont' work
Apr 06 09:07:26 <mrpackethead> :-(
Apr 06 09:07:50 <mrpackethead> i just hav'nt got enough speed to implement the soft UARTS
Apr 06 09:10:42 <_av500_> soft?
Apr 06 09:10:54 <mrpackethead> yup soft
Apr 06 09:11:11 <mrpackethead> reverse bit banging i guess you might call it
Apr 06 09:11:15 <mrpackethead> :-)
Apr 06 09:12:48 <mrpackethead> 250k at 8 times oversampling
Apr 06 09:12:53 <mrpackethead> i need 4 RX's
Apr 06 09:13:16 <mrpackethead> it does'nt leave me much space
Apr 06 09:14:19 <_av500_> you are doing DMX RX?
Apr 06 09:14:27 <mrpackethead> *trying*
Apr 06 09:14:46 <_av500_> IPoverDMX?
Apr 06 09:14:53 <mrpackethead> yes
Apr 06 09:15:03 <mrpackethead> DMX over IP more specifically
Apr 06 09:15:04 <_av500_> DMX of things
Apr 06 09:15:22 <_av500_> but that's tx, no?
Apr 06 09:15:29 <mrpackethead> can be either way
Apr 06 09:15:32 <_av500_> right
Apr 06 09:15:37 <_av500_> like an extender
Apr 06 09:15:50 <mrpackethead> DMX has soemrhign called RDM
Apr 06 09:15:56 <mrpackethead> "remote device managment"
Apr 06 09:16:12 <mrpackethead> you can query devices on a dmx port
Apr 06 09:16:17 <mrpackethead> and get them to reply
Apr 06 09:16:23 <mrpackethead> ask them the right thing
Apr 06 09:16:39 <mrpackethead> and you'll get thing like "lamp hours"
Apr 06 09:17:34 <mrpackethead> the PRU has 1 UART
Apr 06 09:17:45 <mrpackethead> this might have to be the limit of my activity
Apr 06 09:17:50 <Rotti> hi!
Apr 06 09:18:01 <mrpackethead> Rotti: you ipv6 thing
Apr 06 09:18:06 <dm8tbr> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Apr 06 09:18:34 <Rotti> mrpackethead: hum?
Apr 06 09:18:40 <mrpackethead> dm8tbr: who was asking dumb questions.
Apr 06 09:19:13 <dm8tbr> mrpackethead: preventive action for people joining and just saying 'hi'
Apr 06 09:19:28 <mrpackethead> dm8tbr: lol.
Apr 06 09:19:37 <mrpackethead> Rotti: whats up, how can we help. got any quesions
Apr 06 09:19:53 <Rotti> indeed :)
Apr 06 09:19:59 <carnarvaro> Hello guyz am tryin to compile an opencv source file on the beaglebone but when I get  a No such file or directory found
Apr 06 09:20:04 <carnarvaro> Hello guyz am tryin to compile an opencv source file on the beaglebone but when I try to link with "pkg-config --cflags --libs opencv I get a No such file or directory found when run
Apr 06 09:20:17 <mrpackethead> dm8tbr is standing by to answer your every questions
Apr 06 09:20:39 <dm8tbr> with exact steps, no less
Apr 06 09:20:49 <mrpackethead> carnarvaro: so, you got the homework assignment as wel
Apr 06 09:20:52 <dm8tbr> (I haven't said where they will lead, hav I?)
Apr 06 09:21:01 <mrpackethead> "exact steps"
Apr 06 09:21:10 <dm8tbr> yes those
Apr 06 09:21:16 <Rotti> i installed kernel 3.8 from github.com/beagleboard on a beaglebone and i want to use the ehrpwm stuff. how can i do so without having the sysfs entries?
Apr 06 09:22:41 <koen> Rotti: have a look at the geiger cape, that uses the PWM with internal APIs
Apr 06 09:23:03 <koen> Rotti: there is also a pwm-test driver that will create the sysfs entries, but it need to be fixed to work
Apr 06 09:23:41 <carnarvaro> it some thing like this root@beaglebone:~# g++ cvTest.cpp -o Test 'pkg-config --cflags --libs opencv'
Apr 06 09:24:10 <Rotti> calculus: you have to use ` instead of '
Apr 06 09:24:29 <Rotti> carnarvaro, not calculus, sorry!
Apr 06 09:25:23 <carnarvaro> but i get this as the output  g++: pkg-config --cflags --libs opencv: No such file or directory
Apr 06 09:26:21 <_av500_> `
Apr 06 09:26:25 <_av500_> not '
Apr 06 09:26:38 <Rotti> calculus: yes, the way you entered the command you told g++ to compile a file named "pkg-config --cflags --libs opencv". if you used backticks, your shell replaced it by the output of pkg-config
Apr 06 09:27:02 <Rotti> koen: thank you, i'll have a look
Apr 06 09:27:07 <carnarvaro> But when I run just pkg-config --cflags --libs opencv in the command line it gives me the paths and libraries
Apr 06 09:28:19 <_av500_> `
Apr 06 09:28:21 <_av500_> not '
Apr 06 09:28:26 <_av500_> can you resd?
Apr 06 09:28:27 <mrpackethead> `!='
Apr 06 09:28:28 <_av500_> read
Apr 06 09:28:49 <carnarvaro> okay got it
Apr 06 09:29:02 <mrpackethead> _av500_: can you type
Apr 06 09:29:07 <mrpackethead> </snigger>
Apr 06 09:31:20 <mrpackethead> vpopov: you want to trade vodka?
Apr 06 09:31:27 <carnarvaro> Sorry Am a newbie to linux, It has now compiled. Thanks a lot guyz
Apr 06 09:31:43 <mrpackethead> carnarvaro: when is your homework due?
Apr 06 09:32:00 <carnarvaro> This week
Apr 06 09:32:00 <_av500_> yesterday
Apr 06 09:32:20 <mrpackethead> there as been a lot of opencv homework recently
Apr 06 09:32:44 <carnarvaro> But I have to get it to pick a feed from a camera
Apr 06 09:32:56 <mrpackethead> _av500_: i think the answer will be to get the assignment, and post an answer to "beaglehomework.com"
Apr 06 09:33:07 <carnarvaro> This is my next step
Apr 06 09:33:09 <mrpackethead> then they will all get kicked out for plagerisusm.
Apr 06 09:33:10 <vpopov> mrpackethead, don't you have something to drink?
Apr 06 09:33:17 <_av500_> and detect green
Apr 06 09:34:00 <mrpackethead> vpopov: everyone from russia wants to trade vodka or old soviet war heads
Apr 06 09:34:05 <mrpackethead> for bit coin
Apr 06 09:34:25 <vpopov> not everyone
Apr 06 09:34:35 <carnarvaro> However  how do I get to use gui - am running windows and using putty for terminal emulation, and have installed xming but find it difficult to have gui
Apr 06 09:34:42 <vpopov> do you want to try?
Apr 06 09:35:28 <mrpackethead> carnarvaro: a beagle is not a good choice for learning linux with.
Apr 06 09:35:39 <mrpackethead> its got too many "gotchas"
Apr 06 09:37:18 <carnarvaro> mrpackethead: yap but just using it for my final project which entails opencv and a camera
Apr 06 09:48:42 <KotH> mrpackethead: why not?
Apr 06 09:48:57 <mrpackethead> why not what?
Apr 06 09:49:01 <KotH> mrpackethead: it's all those gotchas that teach you how a linux really works udner the hood :)
Apr 06 09:49:41 <mrpackethead> well, maybe, but not everyone likes a learning curve that is like the north face of teh eiger
Apr 06 09:50:33 <KotH> considering how many germans try to climb the north face in sneakers.....
Apr 06 09:52:56 <mrpackethead> my last trip up there, we had to come down because my wife was suffering mild hypoxia
Apr 06 09:52:57 * _av500_ buys North Face in the shops
Apr 06 09:53:26 <mrpackethead> only the swiss are nuts enough to put a railway station at 12,000'
Apr 06 09:58:43 <KotH> hehe
Apr 06 09:58:59 <KotH> and only tourists are nuts enough to buy a ticket up there ;)
Apr 06 09:59:02 <Rotti> koen: i had a look at the geiger cape software, but i'd prefer a user space solution... could it be possible to modify the registers directly using mmap() and so on? (haven't used stuff like this yet...)
Apr 06 09:59:23 <mrpackethead> its worth it for the view
Apr 06 09:59:49 <KotH> mrpackethead: but yes, if you are not used to such fast and steep climbs, it can be a problem
Apr 06 10:00:06 * KotH has lots of german friends who cannot take a normal train trough the mountains
Apr 06 10:01:21 <jkroon> koen, i used a .bbappend file for adding the beagleboard machine to the compatible_machine list for linux-mainline-3.8 in meta-beagleboard, using both 3.8.5 and 3.8.6 kernels I get crashes though, alignment problem in omap3_control_save_context() during kernel boot. Anything you've heard of ?
Apr 06 10:06:56 <_av500_> Rotti: sure, you can always use /dev/mem
Apr 06 10:07:04 <_av500_> just dont tell anybody
Apr 06 10:22:59 <koen> jkroon: haven't seen that, but I did setup my xM to try the 3.8.x kernel on this weekend
Apr 06 10:23:51 <jkroon> koen, so, did you mean you havent tried yet but will do this weekend ?
Apr 06 10:24:17 <jkroon> koen, im ok, ill test on the beaglebone until the beagelboard runs again..
Apr 06 10:53:22 <jkroon> Beaglebone, is that the OMAP3530, "-M beagle" for qemu-linaro ?
Apr 06 10:54:39 <koen> jkroon: I mean that I'm trying it right now :)
Apr 06 10:54:46 <koen> means*
Apr 06 10:54:50 <jkroon> koen, cool :-)
Apr 06 10:55:21 <jkroon> koen, no that was perectly good english already, right :-)
Apr 06 10:56:07 <jkroon> unless you meant "It means". But the to lingual bugs cancelled each other out
Apr 06 10:56:30 <jkroon> s/to/two
Apr 06 10:56:33 * koen needs more coffee :)
Apr 06 10:57:02 * jkroon too
Apr 06 11:06:17 <BeagleGithub> [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/1VB3-Q
Apr 06 11:06:17 <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.8 d879b52 Koen Kooi: 3.8: improve beagleboard support...
Apr 06 11:18:25 <jkroon> grr, github is not updating.
Apr 06 11:18:35 <jkroon> koen, did you find anything regarding my crash ?
Apr 06 11:19:33 <koen> yeah, some omap3 options weren't set
Apr 06 11:20:43 <jkroon> koen, nice.. what gave you a hint of what was the problem ? I saw some prints about misaligned data
Apr 06 11:26:25 <koen> I tried using the old 3.7 beagle config
Apr 06 11:26:30 <koen> still tons of warnings, though
Apr 06 11:26:33 <koen> but it boots
Apr 06 11:52:58 <jkroon> cool
Apr 06 13:12:00 <jkroon> koen, wow.. yea it boots, but lots of warnings..
Apr 06 13:15:29 <koen> inded
Apr 06 13:15:31 <koen> +e
Apr 06 13:15:40 <koen> trying to figure out how to get DVI working reliably
Apr 06 13:15:46 <koen> I can get the LCD7 working
Apr 06 13:16:04 <koen> but not DVI :(
Apr 06 13:17:14 <jkroon> yeah, thats not working for me either
Apr 06 13:17:18 <jkroon> DVI
Apr 06 13:22:02 <woglinde> koen is the cape stuff needed on beagleboard?
Apr 06 13:39:37 <jkroon> koen, what company do you work for ?
Apr 06 13:52:48 <_av500_> circuitco
Apr 06 13:55:38 <jkroon> ok
Apr 06 13:56:22 <jkroon> koen, btw, openembedded gives me this warning for some reason... maybe I have it incorrectly setup, but anyway here it is : WARNING: No bb files matched BBFILE_PATTERN_meta-beagleboard-common '^/home/jkroon/Projects/oe-devel/meta-beagleboard/common-bsp/'
Apr 06 15:48:57 <mranostay> morning friends and mru
Apr 06 15:49:51 <alan_o> morning mranostay
Apr 06 15:50:32 <mru> troll
Apr 06 15:50:32 <mdp> morning mranostay
Apr 06 15:50:39 <alan_o> speaking of mru, I haven't seen aholler on here since mru told him to get off the internet if he was offended.
Apr 06 15:51:02 <alan_o> (and I've been looking... but I may have missed him)
Apr 06 15:51:30 <mru> I didn't mean that quite so literally
Apr 06 15:51:37 <alan_o> I know :)
Apr 06 15:52:39 <mdp> the interwebs are unforgiving
Apr 06 15:53:42 <alan_o> a cold dark place....
Apr 06 15:54:41 <woglinde> hm meta-beagleboard has only bone config
Apr 06 15:55:37 <mdp> alan_o, I blame it on use of plain text...widespread adoption of sartalics would fix everything
Apr 06 15:55:38 <ka6sox> mdp, have you used vasm?
Apr 06 15:56:07 <mdp> no
Apr 06 15:56:55 <alan_o> mdp: yeah, just some way to show inflection would be nice. Some people put a ~ at the end of stuff to mean sarcasm (not widespread)
Apr 06 15:57:06 <woglinde> hm so which meta- has now beagleboard support
Apr 06 15:57:12 <woglinde> where is jkroon
Apr 06 15:58:12 <mdp> alan_o, even the sartalics page is humourous in itself..."Sartalics, created in 2011 by three interns"
Apr 06 15:58:19 <ka6sox> he came in one morning and called this the "weapons channel"
Apr 06 15:58:29 <ka6sox> (referring to aholler)
Apr 06 15:59:11 <KotH> considering the amount of time spend on discussing guns... he might be right :)
Apr 06 15:59:13 <jkroon> woglinde, koen pushed an update to meta-beagleboard today
Apr 06 15:59:48 <jkroon> woglinde, which added beagleboard support, but theres still appears to be some problems with DVI, and a lot of warnings during boot
Apr 06 16:00:13 <woglinde> jkroon I only see beaglebone.conf
Apr 06 16:00:30 <woglinde> jkroon so you are using beaglebone as MACHINE?
Apr 06 16:01:04 <jkroon> woglinde, ah, no, im using meta-ti together with meta-beagleboard
Apr 06 16:01:26 <jkroon> woglinde, MACHINE is still beagleboard
Apr 06 16:01:58 <mdp> KotH, interestingly enough, we had that issue on #mklinux back when it was active like this channel is now ;)
Apr 06 16:04:03 <woglinde> jkroon yes okay
Apr 06 16:06:06 <mranostay> mru: in sweden today?
Apr 06 16:06:28 <mru> indeed I am
Apr 06 16:07:32 <mranostay> how did people stalk before GPS data in photos? :)
Apr 06 16:07:43 <mranostay> geotag ftw
Apr 06 16:08:55 <mdp> mranostay, when I first started at TI, my boss was asking me all these questions about my house and the dimension of my deck based on the google maps view
Apr 06 16:08:57 <mdp> *sigh*
Apr 06 16:09:13 <mdp> mranostay, he *is* a stalker ;)
Apr 06 16:11:09 <alan_o> everyone wants privacy to be a one-way street
Apr 06 16:11:10 <mdp> too bad they don't integrate the tax maps so you can see property lines too
Apr 06 16:11:35 <alan_o> mdp: some counties have good websites for that
Apr 06 16:11:48 <alan_o> I can do that in Orange (SAT map + property lines) on the appraiser site
Apr 06 16:11:52 <mdp> alan_o, this is why the smart people have buried their firearms in the national park lands.. er, nm
Apr 06 16:11:53 <mdp> ;)
Apr 06 16:12:21 <mranostay> mdp: that is a bit creepy :)
Apr 06 16:12:24 <mdp> alan_o, yeah, I browse those here with my county maps..but it's a crappy interface
Apr 06 16:12:35 <alan_o> mdp: the _really_ smart people dont' talk about their firearms on a logged/archived public IRC channel :)
Apr 06 16:12:37 <mdp> mranostay, well, you can't bury them on your own property
Apr 06 16:12:41 <mdp> alan_o, lol
Apr 06 16:12:50 <mdp> alan_o, I just heard about that somewhere..crazy people!
Apr 06 16:13:40 * mranostay grabs metal detector and goes to Yosemite
Apr 06 16:16:04 <mdp> I have no doubts there are quite a few SKSes in cosmoline with sealed tins of ammo buried out there
Apr 06 16:16:27 <mdp> especially from the mid-90s when the russian ones were $69 ootb
Apr 06 16:21:01 <mdp> alan_o, it's ok when you're already on all the "lists" anyway.
Apr 06 16:21:03 <mdp> no worries
Apr 06 16:21:22 <alan_o> yeah, that's what I figure
Apr 06 16:34:08 <KotH> mdp: "that issue" ?
Apr 06 16:38:20 <mdp> KotH, huge amount of gun talk. people would periodically say, "is this the gun channel?" ;)
Apr 06 16:41:16 <KotH> mdp: well.. this is a technical channel... guns are technology...  ;)
Apr 06 16:41:22 <mdp> yep
Apr 06 16:42:54 <mdp> like cars ;)
Apr 06 16:43:36 <mdp> but a lot of people live in areas where cars are an annoyance rather than a fun thing
Apr 06 16:43:41 <Crofton|work> Angstrom powers guns
Apr 06 16:51:20 <KotH> mdp: or rather that cars have become so complicated that a mere mortal has no chance to grasp how it works
Apr 06 17:06:33 <mdp> all hail angstrom
Apr 06 17:15:48 * KotH hails yocto
Apr 06 17:16:04 <KotH> unlike angström i got a t-shirt from them ;)
Apr 06 17:18:43 <mdp> lack of t-shirts may kill angstrom
Apr 06 17:18:53 <mdp> just a hacker distro
Apr 06 17:19:22 <woglinde> koth lol
Apr 06 17:35:02 <KotH> hmm.. the synthesis of ecstasy is fairly easy...
Apr 06 17:38:41 <dm8tbr> you just discovered what many underfunded chemistry students discover during their academic career ;)
Apr 06 17:39:00 <KotH> juup.. just walking that way ;)
Apr 06 17:39:59 <KotH> actually, the synthesis is easy enough for a freshmen to understand and to perform
Apr 06 17:45:28 <mranostay> from guns to drug talk
Apr 06 17:48:23 <KotH> this is strictly in preparation for my exam next week :)
Apr 06 17:50:27 <mranostay> exam on MDMA? are you planningon hugging your desk?
Apr 06 17:50:35 <dm8tbr> that's what they said, to the judge
Apr 06 17:51:12 <KotH> mranostay: dude! that's organic chemistry!
Apr 06 17:53:43 <mranostay> KotH: how about meth? :)
Apr 06 17:54:04 <KotH> nah.. basic synthesis methods :)
Apr 06 17:54:26 <KotH> haven't looked up meth yet.. might be interesting...
Apr 06 17:55:06 <dm8tbr> lsd is supposedly not so hard either
Apr 06 17:55:10 <mranostay> LSD is also another easy one iirc
Apr 06 17:55:28 <KotH> heh..
Apr 06 17:55:37 <dm8tbr> we used to have a fun book in the school library about toxic substances that explained all those things :-]
Apr 06 17:55:43 <KotH> don't give me ideas!
Apr 06 17:56:31 <mranostay> KotH: well unless you want to spend 5-10 in some prison
Apr 06 17:56:59 <KotH> mranostay: prolly less...i'm in switzerland after all ;)
Apr 06 18:00:04 * KotH wonders why wikipedia describes the synthesis of drugs in such a great detail
Apr 06 18:02:35 <dm8tbr> KotH: btw, you are familiar with Derek Lowe's blog, aren't you?
Apr 06 18:03:08 <KotH> things i wont work with?
Apr 06 18:03:09 <dm8tbr> if not, I just ruined your productivity for this weekend: http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/things_i_wont_work_with/
Apr 06 18:03:20 <KotH> yeah.. i know it :)
Apr 06 18:03:28 <dm8tbr> his writing style is pure genius
Apr 06 18:03:53 <dm8tbr> also, ooooh, shiny new post yesterday
Apr 06 18:05:31 <woglinde> hm lets see
Apr 06 18:11:45 * KotH looks at woglinde 
Apr 06 18:11:49 * KotH sees nothing
Apr 06 18:22:10 <_av500_> sea
Apr 06 18:49:49 <KotH> does anyone here know what sil-o-gel is?
Apr 06 18:53:23 <KotH> is that silicagel?
Apr 06 18:57:50 <mranostay> totally edible
Apr 06 18:59:19 * mranostay leaves house
Apr 06 18:59:39 <KotH> DONT!
Apr 06 18:59:47 <KotH> IT'S BRIGHT OUTSIDE!
Apr 06 19:46:18 <mrpackethead> mranostay:  i'm having a bit of a doh moment and released my DMX RX is not going to work
Apr 06 19:49:03 <mranostay> heh why?
Apr 06 19:49:17 <mranostay> RDM you mean?
Apr 06 19:49:38 <mranostay> optoisolaters not bidirectional? :)
Apr 06 19:54:08 <mrpackethead> PRU doe nto have enough machine cycles
Apr 06 19:54:29 <mrpackethead> TX is easy
Apr 06 19:54:38 <mranostay> ah right
Apr 06 19:54:43 <mranostay> RDM is a hack right?
Apr 06 19:54:54 <mranostay> reads between trasmits
Apr 06 19:55:09 <mrpackethead> no..
Apr 06 19:55:31 <mrpackethead> impmentinng a soft uart to read potentialy 4 x 250khz is a problem
Apr 06 19:55:50 <mranostay> why is that?
Apr 06 19:56:01 <mrpackethead> you need to oversample
Apr 06 19:56:16 <mrpackethead> at 8x oversampling
Apr 06 19:56:21 <mranostay> @#@#$
Apr 06 19:56:22 <mrpackethead> thats 2Mhz
Apr 06 19:56:32 <mranostay> of course
Apr 06 19:56:41 <mrpackethead> x 4 ports..
Apr 06 19:56:48 <mrpackethead> its 25 instructions per port per bit
Apr 06 19:56:53 <mrpackethead> its not going to happen
Apr 06 19:58:33 <mrpackethead> there is a "real" UART in the PRU of course
Apr 06 21:02:33 <Rotti> hi
Apr 06 21:52:55 <mranostay> i hate trees
Apr 06 21:53:38 <woglinde> why?
Apr 06 21:54:22 <Rotti> when i attach a webcam or similar to the usb port of the bone (kernel 3.8), it complains there is not sufficient power, but with other images it works fine... in am33xx.dtsi, for the usb-part, power is set to 250 (i guess that's mA), is it safe to set it to 500, if i'm using an external power supply at the 5v jack?
Apr 06 21:54:31 <mranostay> woglinde: pollen
Apr 06 21:54:52 <woglinde> mranostay hm we still have winter
Apr 06 21:55:31 <mranostay> what weirdo place do you live?
Apr 06 21:56:19 <woglinde> germa n
Apr 06 21:56:21 <woglinde> y
Apr 06 21:56:42 <mranostay> what part?
Apr 06 21:56:49 <woglinde> berlin
Apr 06 21:57:26 <woglinde> but now its getting warmer
Apr 06 21:57:41 * mranostay needs to visit germany one of these days
Apr 06 21:58:03 <Rotti> woglinde: sure? :)
Apr 06 21:58:43 <woglinde> rotti yes snow is nearly melted
Apr 06 22:00:17 <Rotti> yesterday we had a bit of new snow :(  (lower saxony)
Apr 06 22:08:19 <mranostay> mru: btw i love that your picture shows up as June 4th 2013 :)
Apr 06 22:08:27 <mranostay> stupid american datetime format
Apr 06 22:27:54 <mru> which pic?
Apr 06 22:32:03 <mranostay> mru: hello kitty one
Apr 06 23:30:45 <mranostay> lower case russ !
Apr 06 23:32:42 <russ> freenode won't listen to me
Apr 06 23:32:47 <Russ> ah, there we go
Apr 07 00:15:42 <ka6sox> what is this beagle stuff anyways
Apr 07 00:18:56 <mranostay> heh
Apr 07 00:19:47 <emeb_mac> has something to do with bones, or boards or something.
Apr 07 00:22:40 <Shadyman> or Wishbone
Apr 07 00:25:07 <mranostay> heh i remember that show
Apr 07 00:25:33 <mranostay> or we talking the salad dressing
Apr 07 00:33:32 <ka6sox> beagles eat salad?
Apr 07 00:55:35 <mrpackethead> beaglebone soup
Apr 07 00:55:45 <mrpackethead> so, im musing now.
Apr 07 00:56:08 <mrpackethead> how to build four non standard UARTS of the back of theb beagle
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