**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 08 02:59:58 2013 Apr 08 03:17:56 urgh. definitely not my night. NULL pointer in __mutex_lock_slowpath called from pwmss_submodule_state_change Apr 08 03:21:22 jkridner: panic mode? Apr 08 03:21:39 didn't go all the way to panic Apr 08 03:25:28 jkridner: i mean you :P Apr 08 03:25:42 ah, well, that's a given. Apr 08 03:27:32 oh crap left the soldering iron on again Apr 08 03:58:08 you need a FX-951 Apr 08 03:58:09 :-) Apr 08 04:01:20 i have the cheap Hakko model Apr 08 04:01:36 hmmm... prop pinctrl-0 index 0 invalid phandle Apr 08 04:07:04 oh, it is always the silly things. :( Apr 08 04:09:10 must be very careful not to repeat identifiers Apr 08 04:11:37 dammit, the mux is still wrong. :( Apr 08 04:12:27 k, identifier issue was just one. null pointer is still there in pwm_test_show_duty. Apr 08 04:22:59 * mranostay handles jkridner a virtual beer Apr 08 04:23:20 had a nice barley wine a few minutes ago. Apr 08 04:24:41 http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2097/91258 Apr 08 04:29:13 oh nice this Kingston card is dead as a doornail Apr 08 04:29:37 jkridner: you MI pepole are weird Apr 08 04:29:40 *people Apr 08 04:32:49 * mranostay blames Shadyman Apr 08 04:39:42 what is the difference btwn barley wine and beer? Apr 08 04:42:10 mranostay: Yeah :/ Apr 08 04:43:09 it is just a type of high-alchohol ale Apr 08 04:43:18 g'day Apr 08 04:43:45 I see Apr 08 04:44:00 so, no difference, just a type of beer Apr 08 04:44:30 ur, just wondering if anybody knows how to configure a beagleboard-xm so I can have the ethernet working ?and use one of the usb ports for ethernet over usb Apr 08 04:45:00 deeza: er, plug it in as it ships out of the box? Apr 08 04:45:07 seems the ethernet port is actually the usb port Apr 08 04:45:16 right. Apr 08 04:45:26 but then I only seem to have one device Apr 08 04:45:44 but I want an eth0 with dhcp and the usb0 with a static ip Apr 08 04:45:52 at the same time Apr 08 04:46:30 if I plug in my usb cable it gets the same ip address as my eth0, because they are the same device Apr 08 04:47:18 just need to configure the additional port with connman Apr 08 04:47:30 you talking about gadget or host? Apr 08 04:48:16 conman Apr 08 04:48:29 ok, conman will do it, and survice a reboot? Apr 08 04:48:33 survive Apr 08 04:48:34 even Apr 08 04:48:45 depends on how good the con is ;) Apr 08 04:48:56 long cons ftw! Apr 08 04:48:57 fair enough Apr 08 04:49:21 thanks for the help Apr 08 04:51:03 http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/02/06/beaglebone-linux-101-assigning-a-static-ip-address-with-connman/ Apr 08 04:51:19 same tool on xM Apr 08 05:51:55 jkridner: I integrated that pinctrl patch, but it didn't build, so I removed it again Apr 08 05:52:08 I wasn't up for backporting pinctrl patches from 3.9 to 3.8 Apr 08 05:52:15 odd. built fine for me, just doesn't work. :( Apr 08 05:56:44 does the gpio stuff go away with the new pinctrl stuff? Apr 08 05:57:36 how do you mean go away? Apr 08 05:57:58 Badass chaplain extraordinaire: http://www.armytimes.com/article/20130407/NEWS/304070004/Chaplain-get-Medal-Honor-62-years-after-death Apr 08 05:58:30 just that...go away... be replaced with something different Apr 08 05:58:35 think the ELC talk hinted at that Apr 08 05:58:45 gpio stuff is all still there. Apr 08 05:59:36 not sure about upstream plans, but nothing we are doing with pinctrl affects gpio much that I know about. certainly the gpio drivers need to be updated to use pinctrl. Apr 08 06:00:02 Ohhh this the OMAP pinctrl stuff Apr 08 06:00:14 not the new stuff that is being worked on which is suppose to subsume the gpio stuff Apr 08 06:01:53 the pinctrl stuff is generic Apr 08 06:02:19 the patch mentioned above modifies pwm_test to use pinctrl. Apr 08 06:06:44 yawn Apr 08 06:08:20 BAD peer Apr 08 06:25:16 <_av500_> bad beer? Apr 08 06:27:15 it is not a bud! Apr 08 06:27:17 ;) Apr 08 06:30:30 <_av500_> it is a dud? Apr 08 07:00:15 jkridner: do you have those cloud9/node wrapper patches ready? Apr 08 07:01:32 no, but I think the simplest solution is to add an EnvironmentFile like you originally suggested. I've tested that it works. Apr 08 07:02:35 I can switch to that now if I need to. Apr 08 07:02:49 it has been a long night. :) Apr 08 07:02:52 er, :( Apr 08 07:05:25 do you need that right away? Apr 08 07:07:14 I've been trying to get my TV to work so I could test the out-of-box with Chromium Apr 08 07:15:47 jkridner: I can't do a build without it, it's the only change since last build :) Apr 08 07:30:30 koen: any more interesting place to pick up the install build version than /etc/angstrom-version ? Apr 08 07:36:48 there's /etc/angstrom-build-info Apr 08 07:37:11 jkridner: but to be honest, that information is not that usefull Apr 08 07:37:25 true. Apr 08 07:37:31 A date would be useful. Apr 08 07:37:33 jkridner: you want people to use the setupscripts, not have them piece everything together themselves Apr 08 07:37:48 a tag you can put into setup-scripts is useful. Apr 08 07:38:07 well Apr 08 07:38:09 but, I think setup-scripts uses branch names on many trees and not tags. :( Apr 08 07:38:15 exactly Apr 08 07:38:20 so, you can't be confident of reproducibility. Apr 08 07:39:17 if you can match against my S3 source archive (assuming I get a build that matches your release build), then being able to ID that is useful. Apr 08 07:39:18 correct again Apr 08 07:39:42 oebb.sh does allow local tags and repo resets Apr 08 07:39:59 but since most repos are read-only, the tags are, well, local Apr 08 07:41:06 jkridner: it's also possible to use the output of './oebb.sh info' to replace layers.txt Apr 08 07:41:16 that will get you the exact metadat Apr 08 07:41:17 a Apr 08 07:41:23 but cuts you off from updates Apr 08 07:41:27 that might be very appreciated for the release. Apr 08 07:41:44 just for the moment and then you can switch back. Apr 08 07:41:57 I'd rather have people build from updated repos than rebuild it exactly Apr 08 07:42:06 it would only cut you off if you pulled that commit of setup-scripts Apr 08 07:42:25 I went down the locked down revisions path before, and it is only nice for the "exact sources!! OMG!!" Apr 08 07:42:30 it sucks for everything else Apr 08 07:42:36 that isn't what most people bug me for... they are mostly interested in being able to get back to a known-good point. Apr 08 07:42:58 the know-good point is setup-scripts Apr 08 07:43:11 pointing to the setup-scripts repo and pulling master gets you unstuck. Apr 08 07:43:54 being able to checkout a particular version of setup-scripts to get the sources for a release is huge. Apr 08 07:44:14 if you could freeze it just for a couple of days Apr 08 07:44:36 them move all of the layer references back to branches rather than tags. Apr 08 07:44:45 like I said: did that before, no benefits besides gpl masturbation Apr 08 07:45:06 textbook will work for a couple years down the road. :) Apr 08 07:45:35 as long as I get a build at the same point with my sources.tgz, I'm not going to panic. Apr 08 07:46:07 I don't think a distro from "a couple of years down the road" will be able to build those sources Apr 08 07:46:22 gcc 5 will choke on todays code, so foo-native won't build Apr 08 07:46:30 make 3.83 will be even more broken than 3.82 Apr 08 07:47:12 glibc 2.20 will remove some more syscalls Apr 08 07:48:20 So what I'm saying is: Apr 08 07:48:31 the rootfs has all the repo git revs Apr 08 07:48:57 people wanting to do the exact source thing can do the 'git reset --hard ' a few times manually Apr 08 07:49:07 that should make all 3 of them happy Apr 08 07:49:34 the rest, who actually want "release + bug fixes" get what they want Apr 08 07:49:52 I will simply point people to the Ubuntu 12.10 distro images. Apr 08 07:50:01 you don't have to grab newer tools to do older tasks. Apr 08 07:51:33 koen: arent you the one usually insisting on "exact sources!! OMG!!" Apr 08 07:54:05 av500: I was inaccurate in what I said, sorry Apr 08 07:54:15 av500: the exact sources are on the source mirror Apr 08 07:54:22 av500: this is about exact metadata Apr 08 07:55:01 not having exact sources available would be a gpl violation Apr 08 07:56:09 although, we could say all beagle users are part of a club Apr 08 07:56:15 so it's not "distribution" Apr 08 07:56:25 Apr 08 08:02:59 I have some stupid perl failure preventing me from testing all the patches. Apr 08 08:04:49 koen: where do I add serial-getty@ttyGS0.service? Apr 08 08:05:56 I could see people wanting to use it for programmatic serial I/O, but having a terminal is handy. Apr 08 08:12:20 jkridner: make a copy of systemd-serial-getty.bb to fit your needs Apr 08 08:12:42 k. any objections to adding it? Apr 08 08:12:54 ls Apr 08 08:12:56 no Apr 08 08:12:57 . Apr 08 08:12:58 .. Apr 08 08:13:07 :) Apr 08 08:13:10 jkridner: send what you have to beagle-alpha Apr 08 08:13:42 for the getty or other stuff? Apr 08 08:14:26 with the meta-systemd patch sent for cloud9.service and 3 patches to beagle-alpha for bonescript, bone101 and beaglebone-getting-started, that should pretty much be where I'm at. Apr 08 08:15:27 my local image has the ttyGS0 getty and a patch for a full 12-digit serial number for g-multi (not sure why you only went with 4 digits). Apr 08 08:15:45 the node-webkit app is too big for the eMMC :( Apr 08 08:16:20 no recipes for pasm, dtc, beaglestache or puredata. not sure about parse-edid. Apr 08 08:16:57 usb patches are DoA. HDMI-audio is ???. Desktop icons and background aren't on my short-term radar. Apr 08 08:17:28 I'm trying to make enough room on my eMMC for a local copy of node-gyp to make sure I have a new build of misc.node. Apr 08 08:17:45 PWM drove me nuts all night. Apr 08 08:18:25 the analog scale thing is a nice-to-have. Apr 08 08:19:34 I'm planning, however, to dive right back into editing bone101 to make it passably complete and have it include the bacon demo. Apr 08 08:20:21 hmm beaglebacon? Apr 08 08:21:00 keesj: yup, courtesy of mranostay and prpplague. Apr 08 08:23:40 what's it doing? Apr 08 08:27:56 jkridner: what is /etc/conf.d? Apr 08 08:28:43 jkridner: ah, that's a gentoo-ism Apr 08 08:29:52 sorry---didn't realize it wasn't more generic Apr 08 08:31:14 jkridner: something I'm curious about, not a criticism Apr 08 08:31:34 jkridner: you and other TI people write commit messages like: "Foo: added bar" Apr 08 08:31:43 koen: this manual PR bumping is a thing? Apr 08 08:31:44 jkridner: most other people write it like "Foo: add bar" Apr 08 08:32:04 av500: in the past, nowadays it is automatically Apr 08 08:32:19 av500: but with an optional network service to keep all autobuilders in sync Apr 08 08:32:19 I saw it just today Apr 08 08:32:47 it used to be 90% of my review comments Apr 08 08:33:07 hmmm... guess the thought pattern is "here is what I did" rather than "here's what this does". Interesting observation Apr 08 08:33:47 the "yocto people" (for the lack of a better description) don't use the output, so they don't notice the package manager won't upgrade stuff Apr 08 08:33:49 jkridner: you are proud about your work :) Apr 08 08:34:15 foo: look Ma, no bar Apr 08 08:35:21 jkridner: my research over the past few months shows that larger projects tend to favour "here's what this does" Apr 08 08:35:28 I use the word "research" lightly Apr 08 08:37:25 oh, and I always forget Scratch. having Scratch on the desktop makes it "for the children" don't you know? Apr 08 08:40:55 that's a disney character isn't it? Apr 08 08:41:22 jkridner: oh, and if the cloud9 startup script reads /etc/default/node, then cloud9 should install it, not bonescript Apr 08 08:41:44 jkridner: that's for when we clean this up and submit it to mainline meta-oe master :) Apr 08 08:42:05 * dm8tbr detects, someone thinks of the children! Apr 08 08:42:24 k, but I made the file optional in the cloud9.service file... Apr 08 08:42:36 and it is bonescript that causes it to need to be set. Apr 08 08:43:01 there should probably be some .conf aggregation thing going on. Apr 08 08:43:03 jkridner: otavio and I want to make a meta-nodejs layer and provide recipes for global npm modules Apr 08 08:43:17 that would be really nice. Apr 08 08:43:20 like he has for meta-chicken Apr 08 08:43:26 i would love to see that be picked up in GSoC Apr 08 08:43:33 hope we get picked up this year. Apr 08 08:43:48 I believe announcements are made on the 8th. Apr 08 08:44:00 which I guess is today. Apr 08 08:48:38 hmmm, has anybody successfully used perf with the 3.8 CCO kernel? It's better than it used to be, as in it doesn't crash the kernel any more, but it also doesn't capture profiling so it makes it pretty much useless... Apr 08 09:01:25 "Jason Kridner authored 13 years ago" Apr 08 09:04:01 jkridner: /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.8/slots Apr 08 09:04:10 jkridner: that location changes based on the DT Apr 08 09:04:14 sorry. :( Apr 08 09:04:19 jkridner: it's different for white and black Apr 08 09:04:25 oh, right. doh Apr 08 09:04:30 on the tester we look for /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots Apr 08 09:04:32 yeah, I'll fix that. Apr 08 09:04:55 panto ran into that, it's a DTism we can't get rid of easily Apr 08 09:05:51 jkridner: and the "first read" problem is present on 3.2 as well Apr 08 09:06:26 I think I have a reasonable solution for the first-read on analogRead Apr 08 09:06:37 but, I do need to handle the DT-ism. Apr 08 09:20:05 koen: http://www.hvn4u.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/130323a48.jpg Apr 08 09:20:27 skyscraper trash Apr 08 09:22:15 gm Apr 08 10:09:15 gm panto Apr 08 10:09:42 do you have any guesses as to why the silly pwm_test patch to add support for pinctrl doesn't work? Apr 08 10:13:56 koen: help the mistral guy Apr 08 10:35:15 jkridner, err, must've missed it Apr 08 10:35:20 jkridner, what's the subject? Apr 08 10:36:32 pwm_test patch for 3.8 on the beagleboard list (not beagle-alpha) Apr 08 10:37:17 err, I don't think I'm on the beagleboard list Apr 08 10:37:26 direct send it please Apr 08 10:40:14 k Apr 08 10:43:18 jkridner, I'm almost done with the black tester Apr 08 10:43:39 I'll switch to the various kernel breakages clint permitting Apr 08 10:50:45 stupid adafruit PWM controllers still out of stock everywhere Apr 08 10:51:04 how hard would it be to make them? Apr 08 10:55:57 real easy Apr 08 10:56:05 but I guess the nxp parts are a bottleneck Apr 08 10:56:17 and it's a very popular board, thanks to arduino and rpi Apr 08 10:58:19 what's the nxp part name? Apr 08 11:01:26 PCA9685 Apr 08 11:02:18 panto: this is how far I got with copy/pasting https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/blob/3.8/patches/iio/0006-pwm-pca9685-skeleton-i2c-client-driver-for-PCA9685-1.patch :) Apr 08 11:02:19 koen, you don't use it to drive leds right? Apr 08 11:02:32 it's for stepper motors? Apr 08 11:02:32 no, servo motors (PWM) Apr 08 11:03:04 60Hz frequency, dutycycle is used to control servo angle Apr 08 11:03:05 the adafruit module will have high power mosfets or something on it right? Apr 08 11:03:28 the servos have 3 leads: GND, +VCC and control Apr 08 11:03:48 the adafruit board has seperate pins for +3.3V for the PCA and +VCC for the steppers Apr 08 11:04:00 hum, so what you use them for is to have lots of pwms? Apr 08 11:04:09 yes Apr 08 11:04:13 how many pwm channels do you need? Apr 08 11:04:30 I have 19 servos in the current design, 21 in the new design Apr 08 11:04:41 6 legs times 3 servos per leg + head Apr 08 11:04:48 ok, tell you what Apr 08 11:04:48 so I use 2 of them Apr 08 11:04:55 send me a couple of the servos Apr 08 11:05:06 I'll go ahead and make PRU pwms Apr 08 11:05:40 there are enough pins on the PRUs to do it Apr 08 11:05:50 PRU can access most GPIOs as well Apr 08 11:05:54 yes Apr 08 11:06:04 for those kind of speeds, going over L4 is no biggie Apr 08 11:06:37 while we wait for the adafruit pwm modules Apr 08 11:08:12 you don't seem like you need ultra high performance PWM, like in the MHz range Apr 08 11:23:45 panto: 12 bits for 60Hz signal Apr 08 11:24:06 so that's ~250kHz Apr 08 11:24:44 got a link to the kind of waveforms that should be generated? Apr 08 11:25:09 i.e. for 0 degree angle, 45, etc? Apr 08 11:25:53 * koen checks code **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 08 11:28:15 2013 Apr 08 11:29:34 http://bit.ly/ZuEpTx Apr 08 11:29:34 0.5 ms for -90, 2.5 ms for +90 Apr 08 11:29:35 '130' and '630' when using 12bit PWM at 60Hz Apr 08 11:29:35 we could just generate the servo control waveforms directly from what it seems Apr 08 11:29:36 right Apr 08 11:29:37 * panto is a s/w guy, educate me :) Apr 08 11:29:37 these cheap analog servos need some offsets: https://github.com/koenkooi/Adafruit-Raspberry-Pi-Python-Code/blob/beaglebone-hexapod/Adafruit_PWM_Servo_Driver/robot.py#L15 Apr 08 11:31:56 lunch time, bb in 20 Apr 08 11:44:50 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.9: http://git.io/z7I8vA Apr 08 11:44:50 kernel/3.9 fa8b12c Koen Kooi: 3.9: update to 3.9rc5... Apr 08 11:49:31 panto: 2 servos packed up, with a sparkfun PWM board added as well Apr 08 11:51:57 koen, thx Apr 08 11:55:29 the sparkfun has a different chip, but I had it on my desk :) Apr 08 11:55:34 heh Apr 08 11:55:46 koen, do you have the schematics of the latest BBB revision? Apr 08 11:55:52 I have A1 Apr 08 11:56:29 sure Apr 08 11:56:31 https://github.com/CircuitCo/-BeagleBone-Black-RevA5/blob/master/BEAGLEBONE_BLACK_SCHEM_A5.pdf?raw=true Apr 08 11:56:53 ship! Apr 08 11:57:15 OMG, the name Apr 08 11:57:17 the name Apr 08 11:57:19 leaked!!! Apr 08 11:57:20 OMG **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 08 11:59:37 2013 Apr 08 12:01:01 av500: nope, don't have a deep fryer here Apr 08 12:01:21 * koen spots a leftover baguette and some brie cheese Apr 08 12:07:20 leakagemonday Apr 08 12:07:28 troll Apr 08 12:08:27 omfg it's monday... Apr 08 12:08:35 yes Apr 08 12:08:38 trainday Apr 08 12:08:52 the day after the day after caturday Apr 08 12:09:31 or baturday if you're av500 Apr 08 12:10:10 indeed Apr 08 12:10:27 has anyone seen av500 and batman at the same time? Apr 08 12:11:31 * av500 hides his pink Tesla Apr 08 12:49:38 * panto facepalms Apr 08 13:55:08 Hello everyone, does anybody know OMAP3 (DM3730) ISP block well? Could someone help me to identify problem with preview done interrupt, when it is configured to take raw RGB frames from CCDC.? Apr 08 14:46:38 koen: the tarball seems to have the old content. Apr 08 14:46:44 are you sure the new stuff got built in? Apr 08 14:54:12 alan_o, you linkedin trolled me! Apr 08 14:54:25 hey alan_o Apr 08 14:54:28 mdp: hehe Apr 08 14:54:31 panto: hey! Apr 08 14:54:41 mdp: it asked if you knew C++, so I said yes :) Apr 08 14:54:48 did you send anything my way? Apr 08 14:54:59 panto: funny you should ask. Apr 08 14:54:59 do you have a tracking ref? Apr 08 14:55:11 panto: I'm taking it to the PO today Apr 08 14:55:12 I'm a barrel (of laughs) Apr 08 14:55:28 panto: it completely fell off my radar, and I'm sorry Apr 08 14:55:43 oh ok, cause I was worried it got lost someplace Apr 08 14:55:51 note, put $1 on the customs form Apr 08 14:55:51 alan_o, yes, my career revolves around c++..makes sense Apr 08 14:57:06 mdp: I remembered after I clicked it that linkedin asks people stuff that it thinks is related to the stuff you have on your profile Apr 08 14:57:25 oh well.. you don't have to accept it :-D Apr 08 14:57:31 yeah, everybody has filler in resumes ;) Apr 08 14:57:48 alan_o, lol..I have a book on my shelf..I *am* a c++ guru :P Apr 08 15:13:03 ka6sox: see all you have to do is ask :P Apr 08 15:13:25 mranostay, I've done so... Apr 08 15:13:42 mourning Apr 08 15:16:20 ok maybe Intel does hate you :P Apr 08 15:17:27 heh Apr 08 15:17:48 headed to the post office, then lunch. Post office is extra fun around lunch time :) Apr 08 15:18:30 alan_o: what the life :) Apr 08 15:18:42 don't die of excitement Apr 08 15:19:56 I'll try to contain myself Apr 08 15:28:17 a book on my shelf..I *am* a c++ guru :P Apr 08 15:28:27 oops Apr 08 15:29:21 mru: i forgot to visit the Fremont Troll in Portland... Apr 08 15:29:48 how could you?! Apr 08 15:30:37 mru, it just takes a book Apr 08 15:30:55 I also have people in this channel to give me exact steps if I get stuck Apr 08 15:31:06 * mranostay emails mdp supervisor Apr 08 15:31:08 mdp: I know how books work Apr 08 15:32:13 Writing C++ Apr 08 15:32:20 step 1: get asked to write c++ Apr 08 15:32:26 step 2: extern "C" { Apr 08 15:32:31 step 3: ???? Apr 08 15:32:37 step 4 } Apr 08 15:32:40 step 5: profit Apr 08 15:33:02 that should do it Apr 08 15:38:14 Have a question here about COPYING "rootfs" directory to TF Card, which is formatted with FAT32 FS. And FAT32 doesn't recognise symlinks... What shoiuld I do? Apr 08 15:39:17 format as something that does Apr 08 15:40:02 or follow exact steps given in instructions Apr 08 15:40:11 so that wus destroy internal partitioning SCheme of the TF Card, won't it? Apr 08 15:40:45 if you got to boot linux you better use a linux root filesystem Apr 08 15:40:50 yes it will Apr 08 15:42:53 See i know abt grub and LIlo stuff.. Would Uboot, boot an ext2/3-formatted TF Crad? Apr 08 15:43:19 17:40 < dm8tbr> or follow exact steps given in instructions Apr 08 15:45:33 ok THNAKS guys!! Apr 08 16:34:06 jkridner: did you get any feedback from Ravi on why his patches don't work with 3.8? Apr 08 16:34:42 jkridner: and let me know when I can start the final image build for today Apr 08 16:34:46 that I should rebase off the TI internal staging tree. Apr 08 16:34:59 funny Apr 08 16:35:04 that has PM that kills GPIO Apr 08 16:35:25 OTOH it's the completely unhelpfull response I expected Apr 08 16:40:00 I second the motion for the TI internal evil Apr 08 16:42:18 jkridner: any reason to have that overly complex way of installing 3 ipks? Apr 08 16:43:09 not really. simply pointing to the URLs would have been much better. Apr 08 16:43:28 I was thinking removal might be necessary to make room. Apr 08 16:43:39 and I wanted to be sure to document a process that didn't die. Apr 08 16:43:56 fixing bonescript-autorun.service now Apr 08 16:51:19 hi jkridner Apr 08 16:52:19 hello Apr 08 16:54:06 hi woglinde Apr 08 16:54:19 jkridner, I got a bite out of the hackerspace dudes Apr 08 16:54:27 hi panto Apr 08 16:56:31 panto: get your rabies shots? Apr 08 16:56:41 no Apr 08 16:56:44 so back away :) Apr 08 17:01:11 kkeller: hey old dude Apr 08 17:01:38 hi mr kkeller Apr 08 17:01:51 hello guys and mranostay Apr 08 17:01:59 kkeller, +1 Apr 08 17:04:07 panto: so, any thoughts on getting pwm_test working? Apr 08 17:04:24 panto: good deal regarding the hackerspace dudes. Apr 08 17:04:39 jkridner, need to wrap up something first and I'll take a look Apr 08 17:04:59 or we'd have to hand-test every board out of the factory :) Apr 08 17:05:23 jkridner, they seem like they would be happy with just a few of bones Apr 08 17:05:45 kkeller: last i looked i was a guy too Apr 08 17:05:47 we could manage to get some press I think Apr 08 17:06:03 cool. Apr 08 17:06:10 panto: that will surely draw out the chicks.. Apr 08 17:06:13 * mranostay snickers Apr 08 17:06:19 mranostay, lol, yeah Apr 08 17:06:21 creeper Apr 08 17:06:28 mranostay: just a young genderless punk ;) Apr 08 17:06:33 * panto hands mranostay another creeper card Apr 08 17:07:07 panto, need to send him ereader cards or he'll run out of shelf space soon Apr 08 17:07:52 maybe he can keep track with an nfc app on his phone Apr 08 18:07:36 okay, someone has stolen or infiltrated the beagle mailing lists Apr 08 18:27:35 where? Apr 08 18:27:48 * jkridner looks for spam Apr 08 18:30:51 jkridner: they are harvesting addresses and sending it directly Apr 08 18:31:02 i use a email address solely for the beagle lists Apr 08 18:31:13 oh. :( Apr 08 18:31:14 and spam has been coming on that address Apr 08 18:36:55 harvester of sorrow Apr 08 18:39:10 got my "cape" back from fab today: http://alturl.com/8mzx5 Apr 08 18:39:14 i suppose it's more of a reverse cape Apr 08 18:39:49 counts Apr 08 18:40:02 underpants i guess Apr 08 18:43:39 wow it's more of a couch Apr 08 18:44:40 dnserr Apr 08 18:45:55 dinner Apr 08 18:50:03 :( minix was not accepted for the gsoc project Apr 08 18:50:29 :( Apr 08 18:50:40 any news on beagleboard? Apr 08 18:51:04 so no minix for the audriuno? Apr 08 18:51:53 19:00 west-cost time Apr 08 18:51:57 *coast Apr 08 18:52:13 oh, wait... Apr 08 18:52:15 thats utc Apr 08 18:52:15 all work and no pay, and not students to help Apr 08 18:52:51 7 minutes remaining Apr 08 18:52:57 oh hehe Apr 08 18:53:41 wmat should share some statistics on how much they looked at our ideas page Apr 08 18:54:52 ds2 I played with the idea to run on an mmu-less system but the real MINIX features do requires some form of memory protection Apr 08 18:55:14 mmu-less doesn't mean no memory protection Apr 08 18:55:24 true Apr 08 18:56:08 and we just removed segments in the last year... Apr 08 19:03:53 accepted!!!! Apr 08 19:04:01 jkridner: which page? Apr 08 19:04:16 came as an e-mail until I complete the profile Apr 08 19:06:18 uh Apr 08 19:06:57 yea yea yea Apr 08 19:07:50 congrats Apr 08 19:07:59 the gnuradio admin must be asleep Apr 08 19:21:04 * jkridner can't find our application template Apr 08 19:25:00 uhm Apr 08 19:25:21 counter 43 of 177 now Apr 08 19:51:08 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/beagle !!!!! Apr 08 19:51:26 congrats! Apr 08 19:51:36 now you just need some good projects and students capable of finishing them Apr 08 19:51:42 good luck with that last bit Apr 08 19:51:55 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/rxQBQQ Apr 08 19:51:55 kernel/3.8 a65bac1 Koen Kooi: 3.8: more tester patches... Apr 08 19:52:26 jkridner|work, cool Apr 08 19:57:01 uh oh...does this mean we are on the hook if we signed up as mentors :) could be good fun. Apr 08 19:57:51 edit the wiki...*now* Apr 08 19:58:14 mdp, I'm okay with this...would be fun! Apr 08 19:58:19 :) Apr 08 19:59:02 if it works as in previous years, mentor selection is not final for yet some time Apr 08 19:59:17 mru, good point... Apr 08 19:59:27 I demand exact steps! Apr 08 19:59:41 I hear the pay is almost as good as working #beagle support too! Apr 08 19:59:59 koen, the GSoC folks are nothing if not organized. Apr 08 20:00:06 * mru got a free trip to the bay area last time Apr 08 20:00:12 heh Apr 08 20:02:12 for some its a short putt. Apr 08 20:03:06 a free short hop then Apr 08 20:03:26 it's <12h so pretty short, yes Apr 08 20:04:25 I wonder if any GSoC is done out of Google Canada here in Waterloo? Apr 08 20:05:08 finally got an image that appears to work (mostly). The LCD7 cape is installed now, but the screen is backwards. Mirror backwards, not upside down. Apr 08 20:05:36 I saw a page for reprogramming the LCD eprom for an upside-down screen and was about to try that, but wanted to check here first. Apr 08 20:05:47 flying is almost as painful as driving for me. Apr 08 20:07:04 this is on a beagleboard xM rev C. Apr 08 20:12:56 wmat: do you guys make maple syrup at Google Canuck? :) Apr 08 20:14:17 mranostay: of course, Google owns it's own sugarbush here Apr 08 20:54:54 FYI the attempt to redo the eeprom on the LCD didn't do the trick, and somehow it looks like I corrupted my SD card image. Apr 08 20:55:11 at least I hope that is all it is. Apr 08 20:58:39 after erasing nand tf card is not booting....did i brick my device? Apr 08 20:58:50 it's unbrickable Apr 08 20:58:57 thankgod Apr 08 20:59:29 but its not booting from my TF card Apr 08 20:59:36 what does it do? Apr 08 20:59:36 can u give me any leads Apr 08 20:59:42 nothing Apr 08 20:59:47 exactly nothing Apr 08 20:59:55 nothing at all on the serial console? Apr 08 21:00:00 nope Apr 08 21:00:05 and which board is this? Apr 08 21:00:21 devkit 8500 Apr 08 21:01:56 either there's some remnant left in nand or your card isn't properly prepared Apr 08 21:02:32 cards alright i used it to boot earlier Apr 08 21:02:50 i was booting frm my nand something happened Apr 08 21:03:03 i had to clear the load Apr 08 21:03:10 and now it wont start Apr 08 21:03:14 o.O Apr 08 21:03:19 O.o Apr 08 21:03:24 o.O Apr 08 21:03:30 does that board have a user button wired the same way as the beagle? Apr 08 21:03:51 if so, hold it down while powering on Apr 08 21:04:02 yeah i tried that Apr 08 21:04:11 forced tf boot Apr 08 21:04:18 not working either Apr 08 21:04:30 should i change the tf card or smthng? Apr 08 21:04:31 and does that print anything? Apr 08 21:04:36 nope Apr 08 21:04:39 stuck on 60 Apr 08 21:04:44 what does it do if you remove the card? Apr 08 21:04:56 wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Apr 08 21:05:09 60? are you saying it prints "60" on the console? Apr 08 21:05:12 leme see Apr 08 21:05:16 yeah Apr 08 21:05:31 so why did you lie when I asked if it printed anything? Apr 08 21:05:56 i though 60 was default thing Apr 08 21:06:00 :S Apr 08 21:06:12 but you explicitly said it printed NOTHING Apr 08 21:06:14 that was a lie Apr 08 21:06:17 now you wasted my time Apr 08 21:06:20 was the question is there anythng besides default? :D Apr 08 21:06:31 nothing happened when i removed the card Apr 08 21:06:31 your card is badly formatted somehow Apr 08 21:06:33 it is the dafault if the board is not bricked Apr 08 21:06:42 same nothing Apr 08 21:06:48 on nand boot Apr 08 21:06:58 60 is an xM Apr 08 21:07:03 there is no nand Apr 08 21:07:14 thurbad: he's using some knockoff board Apr 08 21:07:16 60 doesn't have to be a xM Apr 08 21:07:17 or rather a dm3730 Apr 08 21:07:19 mine has nand -_- Apr 08 21:07:20 ah Apr 08 21:07:24 I have a classic that does 60 ;) Apr 08 21:07:30 really? Apr 08 21:07:38 of course Apr 08 21:07:53 also 128M mem/128M nand too ;) Apr 08 21:07:53 I a non released classic? Apr 08 21:07:58 isn't a frew rogue xM's with NAND? :) Apr 08 21:08:00 *few Apr 08 21:08:01 the characters printed indicate the silicon revision Apr 08 21:08:09 thurbad: it has been rePOP'ed Apr 08 21:08:14 ah Apr 08 21:08:19 mranostay: yes, I have one here Apr 08 21:08:25 but yes, unreleased ;) Apr 08 21:10:12 oh come on guys help me out Apr 08 21:10:25 i have to submit a project 2moro morning Apr 08 21:10:45 the night is young and there is work to be done ^_^ Apr 08 21:11:08 please contact your local friendly consultant for expedited assistance Apr 08 21:11:25 not replying Apr 08 21:11:46 please contact your local less friendly consultant as a secondary recourse. Apr 08 21:11:49 ;) Apr 08 21:12:05 * mdp updates the big board with ds2's success Apr 08 21:12:22 any ideas on reversed LCD? Apr 08 21:12:31 flip it around? Apr 08 21:12:39 mdp: do you have a webcam or so showing that board of yours? Apr 08 21:12:42 good one (Y) Apr 08 21:13:01 mru, that project is delayed but necessary Apr 08 21:13:02 me? Apr 08 21:13:07 yoyodyn: view it in a mirror Apr 08 21:13:10 should have put it on the GSoC project list Apr 08 21:13:27 guys help me out Apr 08 21:13:32 already proposed the mirror idea. got rejected by the boss Apr 08 21:13:37 did i brick my board or not :S Apr 08 21:13:52 you did not brick your board Apr 08 21:14:05 you simply failed to follow the exact steps preparing the card Apr 08 21:14:21 swap left and right eyes? Apr 08 21:14:46 my card was working perfect b4 the nand boot; lets say i have nand for instatnce Apr 08 21:15:08 what it did or did not do before is irrelevant Apr 08 21:15:18 the only thing that matters is what it does _now_ Apr 08 21:15:18 ok Apr 08 21:15:32 k Apr 08 21:15:34 deep Apr 08 21:15:34 first rule of debugging Apr 08 21:15:45 (Y) Apr 08 21:16:19 well... I'd disagree Apr 08 21:16:37 prior exposure to inappropriate conditions would be an issue Apr 08 21:16:48 ds2, +1 Apr 08 21:16:48 o.O Apr 08 21:16:50 mru: we don't talk about debugger club? Apr 08 21:16:53 dafuQ Apr 08 21:17:12 inappropriate conditions Apr 08 21:17:24 what sort of conditions are we talking about Apr 08 21:17:28 ds2: well, he has a board that's clearly _not_ trying to boot from nand or sd card Apr 08 21:17:29 if it used to smoke, and now it doesn't, might be a clue. Apr 08 21:17:29 past performance does not indicate future. Apr 08 21:18:18 and the rom code is demonstrably running, which leaves a badly formatted card as the only option Apr 08 21:18:25 mru: yes but chipselct and SD_CMD lines could be fried ;) Apr 08 21:18:44 hence exposure to prior conditions can be a factor Apr 08 21:19:02 there is that of course Apr 08 21:19:39 I suppose there is always serial boot Apr 08 21:19:48 and usb Apr 08 21:19:55 since it is producing output, TX cannot by definition be fried Apr 08 21:20:02 rx could be though Apr 08 21:20:02 RX is another matter of course Apr 08 21:20:20 we donno anything about DM/DP unless it enumerates Apr 08 21:20:36 ds2: the magic smoke can't transmit? :P Apr 08 21:21:00 smoke signals are a thing, right? Apr 08 21:21:06 yes Apr 08 21:21:10 mranostay: diodes do that sort of thing Apr 08 21:21:25 smoke-emitting diodes Apr 08 21:21:31 ds2, especially the Selenium ones. Apr 08 21:21:51 stop making fun of my board -_- Apr 08 21:22:04 ka6sox: do those still wind up on the xmitters thesedays? Apr 08 21:22:18 ds2, not new ones...but some of hte old onese Apr 08 21:22:35 RoHS reasons? Apr 08 21:22:45 * mranostay senses khan__ is new to IRC Apr 08 21:22:52 what Apr 08 21:22:53 lol Apr 08 21:22:54 no Apr 08 21:22:58 we make fun of everything here Apr 08 21:23:01 khan__, we aren't making fun..they are diagnosing by holding up cards in the wind...because the information you are providing is fragmentary. Apr 08 21:23:10 id be slaping all over the place if not fr... stuff Apr 08 21:23:15 and leads to many conclusions... Apr 08 21:23:34 ka6sox: true Apr 08 21:23:42 ds2, the EPA outlawed them. Apr 08 21:23:48 what info do u require Apr 08 21:24:05 Oh Apr 08 21:24:16 ka6sox: was that after they did away with mercury rectifiers? Apr 08 21:24:27 I still have those Apr 08 21:24:38 things were more fun before they invented rohs Apr 08 21:24:42 suppose to have a warm glow to them Apr 08 21:24:46 and they smelled better Apr 08 21:24:50 34.5kV@35A Apr 08 21:25:04 but Vf of like 80V? Apr 08 21:25:04 and they do glow Apr 08 21:25:10 o.O Apr 08 21:25:19 35amps Apr 08 21:25:19 ka6sox: that legal in CA? :) Apr 08 21:25:30 mranostay, TIA Apr 08 21:25:30 waht are u wrking on o.O Apr 08 21:25:48 250kW transmitter Apr 08 21:26:13 ka6sox: TIA? Apr 08 21:26:18 this is alaska Apr 08 21:26:22 u transmitting to pluto o.O Apr 08 21:26:32 that's only halfway to alaska Apr 08 21:26:33 that's 250kW @ 2.4GHz, right? :D Apr 08 21:27:06 no, 11.6Mhz Apr 08 21:27:08 bbl Apr 08 21:27:18 blah... nothing interesting resonates down there Apr 08 21:27:37 ka6sox: can you control my mind with that? Apr 08 21:27:52 lol Apr 08 21:28:35 im formatting ima eat ur brain if this doesnt work :p Apr 08 21:28:45 *brains Apr 08 21:32:22 will the beagleboard output to the HDMI and the LCD cape at the same time? Apr 08 21:38:22 good question :o Apr 08 21:38:33 anyone try that b4? Apr 08 21:38:50 I am full of good questions (among other things), its good answers I have lacking Apr 08 21:47:18 arnt we all Apr 08 22:00:14 khan__: stay in the channel! Apr 08 22:00:31 sori Apr 08 22:00:41 i re-formatted the card Apr 08 22:00:47 and did everything Apr 08 22:01:02 its stillnot working Apr 08 22:01:51 mru :s Apr 08 22:02:16 i formatted my sd card with linux and windows Apr 08 22:07:16 can someone tell me what I messed up by following these directions? http://beagleboardtoys.info/index.php?title=Reprogram_ULCD7_Lite_EEPROM Apr 08 22:09:16 booting now getting the error ** Bad partition 2 ** Apr 08 22:09:52 applied the image to the card again, but that didn't fix it, so deleted the partitions and now applying the image again Apr 08 22:21:58 mru: crap Fremont Troll is in Seattle not Portland Apr 08 22:22:14 so you'll just have to go there then Apr 08 22:22:31 all the Microsoft people are there Apr 08 22:22:56 it's not all microsoft Apr 08 22:24:32 no? Apr 08 22:36:04 mranostay: that's _why_ the troll is there. Apr 08 22:55:13 trolls? where? Apr 08 22:55:50 Seattle Apr 08 22:56:06 okay..nowhere near here... Apr 08 22:57:23 * _troll_ troll troll Apr 08 22:58:09 OMG..there *is* a real live _troll_ Apr 08 22:58:32 of course there is Apr 08 22:59:37 * mranostay shoots _troll_ Apr 08 22:59:56 * _troll_ shrugs Apr 08 23:00:07 a zombie troll! Apr 08 23:02:29 the students have already started hitting me up Apr 08 23:02:52 should be a good year! Apr 08 23:02:59 :) Apr 08 23:03:09 corrupt the youth! Apr 08 23:05:42 ok, still unable to boot. Error now is "Unable to use mmc 0:1 for fatload" Apr 08 23:06:09 FAQ on eLinux says to change the mmcinit to mmc init. where would that be? Apr 08 23:07:22 uboot Apr 08 23:07:58 jkridner: not sure i like your idea of running a 'hello world' static binary from a git repo :) Apr 08 23:08:48 do i need to rebuild uboot? i am not setup to do that yet.. Apr 08 23:09:02 hehe, well, I assume we run it on relatively disposable hardware with little access to private information. :) Apr 08 23:09:09 jkridner: is there a sep. channel for GSoC? Apr 08 23:09:34 i think we used to do one for #beagle, like #beagle GSoC. Apr 08 23:09:41 er, #beagle-gsoc Apr 08 23:09:45 yes...we still doing it?/ Apr 08 23:09:53 but, I'd rather wait until it gets to be a problem before forking Apr 08 23:10:00 ok Apr 08 23:10:17 but we are still redirecting ML traffic to the gsoc list, right? Apr 08 23:11:20 yoyodyn: no need, interrupt uboot during its auto start stuff, and type commands one at a time, when you figure out what works, save that so uboot does it on its own Apr 08 23:12:01 is there a gsoc ML? Apr 08 23:12:22 ka6sox: yes Apr 08 23:12:52 there are 2 Apr 08 23:14:13 ds2: went ahead and made #beagle-gsoc Apr 08 23:15:05 trolling thresholds might have to be different btwn the channels ;) Apr 08 23:15:19 :) Apr 08 23:15:35 calculus: what commands am I typing one at a time? Apr 08 23:16:06 yoyodyn: mmc init, fatload, bootm, etc Apr 08 23:19:10 yeah, I have no idea. there a script that would normally be executing when I get this error? So i can just execute those commands? Apr 08 23:22:38 yep, and when you find a working set just update the script Apr 08 23:27:11 dunno where said script is located. Apr 08 23:39:34 fatload fails. Unable to use mmc 0:1 for fatload. Apr 08 23:53:59 Hey guys Apr 08 23:55:18 morning PZM Apr 08 23:58:07 mourning Apr 09 00:06:30 mranostay: do you have the final silkscreen for bacon? Apr 09 00:06:40 * mranostay points to prpplague Apr 09 00:09:22 prpplague? Apr 09 00:11:58 jkridner|work: sorry swamped i'll try to get it out to you this evening Apr 09 00:12:54 kinda urgent. can't seem to find it. Apr 09 00:31:40 mranostay: button on P8-45 (high when pressed?), analog on P9-36, Blue on P9-14, Green on P9-16, Red on P9-29, SCLK on P9-31, Data on P9-30, Word/CS on P9-28 ? Apr 09 00:31:47 the switch looks routed funny. Apr 09 00:32:04 looks like it only has a pull-up/down and no shorting. Apr 09 00:32:20 does that mean I need to turn on the pull-up/down within the device? Apr 09 00:38:07 jkridner|work: i'll send it over in an hour or so, heading home Apr 09 01:45:51 waiting on the black bone.... doo daa Apr 09 01:50:46 we do not judge a board by the colour of its PCB but the content of its character Apr 09 01:51:36 dear sir, plz PM the colouuuuuuuuur of your bored. Apr 09 01:51:59 i have a dream! Apr 09 01:58:55 lol i would have purchased one but why not wait for the new and improved wonderboard Apr 09 01:59:46 wonderwand Apr 09 02:29:31 jkridner|work: give me about 20-30 minutes Apr 09 02:29:39 k Apr 09 02:30:43 * prpplague thinks he should change his nick to magicman because he just pulled another rabbit from a hat Apr 09 02:35:11 prpplague, what did we say about all of this stuff running on magic? Apr 09 02:47:43 Hey guys, I am trying to compile some c code with arm gcc, and while the paths are correct (checked with -v), if I try to compile even the simplest helloworld program I get a ton of errors, of the sort:c:/program files (x86)/gnu tools arm embedded/4.7 2013q1/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none -eabi/4.7.3/../../../../arm-none-eabi/lib\libc.a(lib_a-exit.o): In function `exi t': exit.c:(.text.exit+0x2c): undefined reference to _exit' Apr 09 02:48:20 Anyone got any ideas? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 09 02:59:58 2013