**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 12 02:59:59 2013
May 12 03:41:18 <Russ> anyone have a copy of the beaglebone white eeprom contents?
May 12 03:41:45 <shapr> does the shipped angstrom image on the bbb automatically act as a dhcp client on its ethernet port?
May 12 03:41:45 <shapr> Because it's not working for me :-/
May 12 03:41:45 <shapr> do I need to do something specific?
May 12 04:01:47 <shapr> ok, I'm giving up and reflashing the angstrom eMMC image
May 12 04:09:35 <xterm> Anyone have any issues with their kernel image thinking there is an issue with the EEPROM? do I need to recompile my kernel with the BBB patch?
May 12 04:16:15 * chupacabra is reflashing to fix ssh
May 12 04:41:04 * Russ installs R210 on his beaglebone white to avoid further shennanigans from the likes of koen
May 12 04:47:31 <ka6sox> Russ, what does that one do?
May 12 04:54:11 <ds2> WP for EEPROM?
May 12 05:14:51 <chupacabra> yay ssh problem fixed.
May 12 06:03:58 * m_billybob is half lite
May 12 06:04:12 <m_billybob> half lite too !
May 12 06:04:21 <m_billybob> lit.
May 12 06:10:33 <m_billybob> another non week end  channel eh
May 12 06:10:45 <m_billybob> whoooooo hoooooo!
May 12 06:13:46 <shapr> yup, nobody here
May 12 06:26:14 <m_billybob> wonderful
May 12 06:26:35 <m_billybob> jesus 11 30 already
May 12 06:27:01 <shapr> It's 01:26 here
May 12 06:27:11 <m_billybob> east coast be you
May 12 06:28:34 <m_billybob> what you want MrMobius?
May 12 06:28:47 <m_billybob> kick yo butt :P
May 12 06:32:06 <MrMobius> i need your guys help to procrastinate
May 12 06:32:51 * dm8tbr sends MrMobius over to http://zombo.com
May 12 06:34:04 <MrMobius> i already lost a few hours to reddit
May 12 06:35:44 <m_billybob> wassabii ?
May 12 06:36:37 <m_billybob> geez didnt realize it was nearly midnight
May 12 06:36:52 <m_billybob> quick whats up MrMobius ?
May 12 06:37:24 <MrMobius> wasting a sunday
May 12 06:37:28 <MrMobius> i should go run or something
May 12 06:37:33 <MrMobius> havent talked ot you in a while. whats new?
May 12 06:37:42 <m_billybob> ok, good night.
May 12 06:38:02 <m_billybob> lol besuidees getting lit tonight ? not much\
May 12 06:39:12 <MrMobius> hehe, enjoy
May 12 06:39:25 <m_billybob> been a couple of months since ive tyed one on might as well :P
May 12 06:39:44 <m_billybob> got a bbb yet ?
May 12 06:40:11 <MrMobius> nah, i have some more msp projects im doing before i get any kind of ARM board
May 12 06:40:17 <MrMobius> but implanning on it eventually
May 12 06:40:18 <MrMobius> you?
May 12 06:40:52 <m_billybob> yeah between wulf an I we have two
May 12 06:41:10 <MrMobius> hehe
May 12 06:41:14 <MrMobius> what are you gonna do with them?
May 12 06:42:00 <m_billybob> secrete super califragistilite expialodotiuous
May 12 06:42:19 <m_billybob> e.g. secrete project ;)\
May 12 06:43:23 <m_billybob> mostly gpio / i2c maybe some uart to
May 12 06:43:31 <m_billybob> too*
May 12 06:44:02 <MrMobius> secrete? like a pancreas replacement device? :P
May 12 06:44:42 <m_billybob> as in idk different project type
May 12 06:46:32 <Russ> ka6sox, ds2, yes, WP for the eeprom
May 12 06:46:55 <Russ> I accidentally got my SD cards switched around and booted the BBB eMMC rewrite image
May 12 06:47:19 <Russ> it upgraded my beaglebone
May 12 06:48:08 <shapr> Why does my monitor detect a signal on HDMI, but there is no picture? It is asleep. As the RTC is not initialized it thinks it has been asleep for years.
May 12 06:48:10 * shapr laughs
May 12 06:49:10 <m_billybob> idl try searching user groups
May 12 06:49:33 <m_billybob> pretty sure uit has already bee explained there
May 12 06:53:06 * m_billybob fires up "how to train your dragon"
May 12 07:04:23 <m_billybob> +granted # bbb has no RTC
May 12 07:05:15 * m_billybob continues watching how to train your dragon
May 12 07:38:35 <jasonm> could some one point me to a resource that explains how to use i2c in Cloud9/Javascript? Not finding much out there
May 12 08:11:00 <muhoo> any idea what's the status of rowboat for beaglebone black?
May 12 08:11:49 <muhoo> i.e., is it working yet? if not, what is still broken, and what might they need help with?
May 12 08:20:35 <dm8tbr> wasn't there an ti-android build for it?
May 12 09:12:12 <holkar> hi , i hv installd new angstrom distribution to beaglebone ,but unable to find omap_mux directory in its file system ,can anybody help me
May 12 09:43:44 <koen> Russ: https://github.com/beagleboard/meta-beagleboard/commit/95384198f10e610b478dabc64cbebabafb8c1446
May 12 12:14:05 <Grievre> Will there be beaglebone blacks for sale at Maker faire?
May 12 12:14:32 <mru> for the right price I'm sure someone will sell you one
May 12 12:15:27 <dm8tbr> there's a "an offer you can't refuse" joke in there somewhere
May 12 12:15:34 <Grievre> ah
May 12 12:15:46 <Grievre> I want one badly but I'm about to change mailing addresses so now is not the right time to order one online
May 12 12:16:04 <mru> have it delievered to a friend's address
May 12 12:16:07 <mru> or work
May 12 12:16:13 <mru> +spelling
May 12 12:16:58 <_av500_> or to a charity
May 12 12:17:11 <mru> feel free to use my address
May 12 12:18:09 <mru> which reminds me, I need to get my reverse dns records fixed
May 12 12:47:28 <halil89> hii everyone
May 12 12:47:47 <halil89> I have started to used beagle bone yet
May 12 12:55:51 * funkrusha too and i love it :-)
May 12 13:05:33 <halil89> which  one I have to prefer using? windows or linux
May 12 13:19:27 <Mode-M> windows. seriously?
May 12 13:20:19 <funkrusha> linux
May 12 13:20:21 <funkrusha> what else?
May 12 13:20:45 <funkrusha> or did you mean the guest os?
May 12 13:25:13 <halil89> ok ı have to change my operation system :(
May 12 13:25:53 <halil89> ı will work on android application with using beagle bone.
May 12 13:26:42 <halil89> do you have any suggested website for android?
May 12 13:28:52 <keesj> for Android internals?
May 12 13:31:47 <Spirilis> yeesh I'd hate to see Eclipse running on the beaglebone
May 12 13:40:04 <DaleS> Hi, I've looked, but didn't see if there is expected serial console output during upgrade of the onboard flash. Am on my first attempt, but not seeing status LED's , but 'C's are printed.
May 12 13:41:22 <Spirilis> it should boot with lots of flickering lights and the USR2/USR3 LEDs should be on... usually one is on solid while the other is off & flickering, or vice versa
May 12 13:43:38 <vvu> DaleS: i am working on usb boot of the bbb and in the usb-boot mode C's are printed, u are trying to update from sd-card ?
May 12 13:43:57 <DaleS> Thanks....will power cycle & retry
May 12 13:47:04 <Spirilis> be sure you're holding that S2 button down near the SD card when you plug it in, and it should boot off the SD
May 12 13:47:20 <Spirilis> if it still doesn't work you may want to re-write that SD card or find a different one
May 12 13:47:26 <DaleS> Definitely booting off of SD. seems like it was doing something...onboard flash is corrupt now (invalid partition)...Guess I'll be patient
May 12 13:47:39 <Spirilis> ah gotcha
May 12 13:47:55 <vvu> the booting order is eMMC, sd-card, usb-boot, uart-boot i think.
May 12 13:48:17 <Spirilis> when it is done flashing, all 4 LEDs turn on solid.
May 12 13:48:36 <vvu> you ran into C's because it was in the last 2 modes i think.
May 12 13:48:50 <DaleS> u-boot failed to find anything...cleared my serial buffer or would paste the failure..suppose could reboot again
May 12 13:49:03 <DaleS> but think I'll be patient instead
May 12 14:05:27 <bender_> anyone tried beagleblack with LCD7 cape?
May 12 14:08:24 <Moult_> is there a way to check how out of date my beaglebone image is?
May 12 14:20:55 <bender_> uname -r
May 12 14:23:04 <bender_> just got a chance to try my bbb with the LCD 7 cape.....no readable video output.  wonder if anyone else has tried this
May 12 14:31:16 <Moult_> bender_: cheers :)
May 12 14:31:35 <Moult_> argh, i just found that pybbio isn't compatible with the bbb :(
May 12 14:31:47 <bender_> cheers
May 12 14:33:47 <bender_> would that be because of the pinctrl in favor of muxing
May 12 14:33:49 <bender_> ?
May 12 14:39:36 <DaleS> regarding my issue updating...SD card apparently unreadable. Couldn't find docs, but 'CCCC' printing must be due to walking to UART/USB in boot sequence (eMMC onboard is not part of bootlist with button held)..reboot without sd card installed booted
May 12 14:40:41 <vvu> it goes into usb/urat because it cannot find MLO on eMMC/sdcard
May 12 14:43:05 <DaleS> yep...I'll troubleshoot what happened to SD card...(FWIW, had issues creating it and used flashnul since windiskImager wouldn't work...may bail and go with dd :-/)
May 12 14:43:09 <DaleS> thanks again
May 12 14:44:05 <vvu> dd saves the day anytime! glad to help
May 12 14:58:06 <shapr> What's the dd command to write an image to an sd card?
May 12 15:04:08 <CareBear\> dd
May 12 15:09:40 <Grievre> shapr: dd if=imagefile of=sdcarddevice bs=32M
May 12 15:09:54 <Grievre> different values for bs might perform better but do NOT use the default, it's hideously slow
May 12 15:21:10 <Phracker_> How and what can you do with BeagleBoard?
May 12 15:31:41 <CareBear\> phrack, of course
May 12 15:35:04 <CareBear\> and you can blink leds
May 12 15:38:30 <ka6sox> mourning
May 12 16:15:14 <chupacabra> yay got webcam to work
May 12 16:15:41 <chupacabra> same as RPi cant do +640
May 12 16:21:26 <Kristina> Are there by any chance any beagle drivers that are not integrated with the Linux tree?
May 12 16:21:58 <Kristina> I found a serial driver from Xen which is actually 100000 times cleaner and easier to integrate than the Linux driver.
May 12 16:22:18 <Kristina> So I wonder if there are any other drivers that are not cluttered with shit.
May 12 16:22:43 <mru> the /dev/null driver is pretty clean
May 12 16:22:50 <mru> everything else has some degree of clutter
May 12 16:24:43 <Kristina> The /dev/null driver has nothing to do with Beagle.
May 12 16:24:50 <Kristina> :(
May 12 16:26:01 <ka6sox> Kristina, I find it a most useful driver in the Beagle
May 12 16:26:11 <mru> you don't want the hw null accelerator?
May 12 16:26:40 <Kristina> *sigh* I'm trying to get back to getting XNU to work on Beagle.
May 12 16:26:49 <mru> why?!
May 12 16:27:28 <Kristina> This is literally, all I have so far: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2397255
May 12 16:27:57 <Newspeak> Hey, so, a question. I'm trying to follow this guide (http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Ubuntu_%26_DSP_From_Sources) to get DSP support on it at kernel level, but when I'm at the menuconfig for the stable-kernel, I don't see any options for enabling TI DSP support.
May 12 16:28:06 <Newspeak> Even though I can search for the entries.
May 12 16:28:09 <Newspeak> Any thoughts?
May 12 16:28:27 <ka6sox> what board?
May 12 16:28:32 <Newspeak> Beagleboard xM
May 12 16:28:33 <mru> and what kernel?
May 12 16:28:34 <Kristina> (that's the core driver. it just needs to be able to init the interrupt controller and set up the timer and the timer irq)
May 12 16:28:46 <Newspeak> 3.8 or 3.9, I've been cloning from git for either.
May 12 16:29:09 <mru> there was never a dsp driver in mainline
May 12 16:29:23 <Newspeak> ...oh. Weird, then, that the kconfigs refer to them
May 12 16:29:42 <Newspeak> What's the latest version of the kernel that had the dsp driver support?
May 12 16:29:43 <mru> presumably it's referring to a patched kernel
May 12 16:29:54 <mru> or a non-mainline tree
May 12 16:30:00 <Newspeak> ^ probably that
May 12 16:30:15 <_av500_> 2.6.32
May 12 16:30:18 <_av500_> TI PSP
May 12 16:30:23 <_av500_> and a few others
May 12 16:30:28 <_av500_> TI Android kernels havethe DSP stuff
May 12 16:30:46 <Newspeak> For Linux, is that the one on omapzoom?
May 12 16:31:02 <_av500_> yes, omapzoom is linux
May 12 16:31:11 <_av500_> and omapzoom has all kind of stuff
May 12 16:31:17 <Kristina> mru: I love XNU.
May 12 16:31:22 <_av500_> but yes, find some Android omap3 kernel
May 12 16:31:23 <Kristina> It's the best thing ever.
May 12 16:31:55 <Newspeak> _av500_, I'm confused, though -- I'm trying to boot Ubuntu on the thing, would having an Android kernel screw that up?
May 12 16:32:18 <mru> Kristina: no offence, but you're weird
May 12 16:32:29 <Kristina> I know. Also, why?
May 12 16:32:42 <mru> what's so good about it?
May 12 16:33:09 <_av500_> Newspeak: probably
May 12 16:33:21 <_av500_> but there is ubuntu for the omap3
May 12 16:33:23 <Kristina> mru: Mach IPC :D
May 12 16:33:24 <_av500_> with dsp support
May 12 16:33:30 <_av500_> the Robert Nelson stuff
May 12 16:33:40 <Newspeak> Oh, that's what I was cloning from!
May 12 16:33:50 <_av500_> mru: we welcome all kind of people in this channel
May 12 16:34:10 <Newspeak> _av500_, the exact command I was using was "git clone -b v3.9.x https://github.com/RobertCNelson/stable-kernel.git"
May 12 16:34:12 <mru> _av500_: of course we do
May 12 16:34:20 <mru> we welcome all kinds of people, and _av500_
May 12 16:34:50 <_av500_> Newspeak: no idea about 3.9
May 12 16:35:05 <_av500_> I dont know if he forward ported XM stuff to 3.9
May 12 16:35:13 <_av500_> mru: phew, thanks
May 12 16:35:24 <Newspeak> Where would I be able to check that sort of thing? Commit histories?
May 12 16:35:55 <_av500_> yeah
May 12 16:36:00 <_av500_> or ask him
May 12 16:36:05 <_av500_> he is active on the ML
May 12 16:36:30 <xterm> For the TI Android kernel, do I have to recompile with support for the BBB board name?
May 12 16:36:32 <_av500_> also, stock angstrom for the XM should have dsp foo
May 12 16:36:55 <_av500_> albeit the other variant
May 12 16:37:25 <Newspeak> huh
May 12 16:37:26 <_av500_> I always wanted to try that again
May 12 16:37:35 <_av500_> xterm: maybe
May 12 16:37:37 <_av500_> try
May 12 16:38:07 <_av500_> not sure that will give you working hdmi
May 12 16:38:31 <xterm> Well, if I can get it to boot... it would be a step forward
May 12 16:38:38 <_av500_> try
May 12 16:38:40 <xterm> Am currently getting EEPROM error messages
May 12 16:38:47 <_av500_> I know
May 12 16:38:53 <_av500_> try
May 12 16:38:57 <xterm> Will do
May 12 16:39:04 <_av500_> dont waste all your time in irc :)
May 12 16:39:16 <ka6sox> _av500_, +1
May 12 16:39:26 <_av500_> Kristina: sure there are a few drivers outside of mainline, but what for?
May 12 16:39:35 <_av500_> how is thta going ot help you?
May 12 16:40:00 <Kristina> _av500_: well, if they're not tightly integrated into a large project, porting them to xnu is easier.
May 12 16:40:47 <_av500_> Kristina: so xnu is up and running and now you are bored and looking to add random drivers?
May 12 16:41:47 <Kristina> _av500_: as you can see from the empty core driver, it's not up and running
May 12 16:41:50 <mru> so xnu is like gnu but better because it has an x?
May 12 16:42:07 <Kristina> _av500_: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2397255
May 12 16:42:09 <_av500_> Kristina: that I would say, work on that first :)
May 12 16:42:47 <Kristina> On the bright side, I've added XNU support to u-boot.
May 12 16:42:48 <_av500_> Kristina: btw, you can freely ingore the omap serial drvier and just look at the standard one
May 12 16:42:56 <Kristina> the NSWhatever?
May 12 16:42:59 <Newspeak> So, for the time being, _av500_ I'm cloning http://dev.omapzoom.org/pub/scm/tidspbridge/kernel-dspbridge.git
May 12 16:43:19 <_av500_> Newspeak: as said, that should be in RCNbuntu already
May 12 16:43:28 <_av500_> NSW?
May 12 16:43:32 <_av500_> New South Wales?
May 12 16:43:37 <dm8tbr> NSFW?
May 12 16:44:22 <Newspeak> Oh
May 12 16:44:50 <Newspeak> So: "git clone git://github.com/RobertCNelson/stable-kernel.git
May 12 16:44:50 <Newspeak> cd stable-kernel
May 12 16:44:50 <Newspeak> git checkout origin/v3.7.x -b tmp
May 12 16:44:50 <Newspeak> ./build_kernel.sh"
May 12 16:45:01 <_av500_> maybe
May 12 16:45:04 <_av500_> I dont know
May 12 16:45:06 <_av500_> RCN does
May 12 16:45:11 <Newspeak> haha, alright
May 12 16:45:24 <Newspeak> well, I've got 10 minutes, it'll be easy to tell
May 12 16:48:51 <Newspeak> And besides, building from source will give me good practice for any future exploration
May 12 16:49:16 <_av500_> of course
May 12 17:23:01 <_av500_> Newspeak: your 10 minutes are long over
May 12 17:25:54 <Newspeak> _av500_, haha, I was in another server/chan
May 12 17:27:53 <ka6sox> Newspeak, quit doing IRC and do it!
May 12 17:29:43 <Newspeak> Already done, the build script spit out a zImage, though
May 12 17:29:53 <Newspeak> I asssume I need to convert it to a uImage using mkimage
May 12 17:36:26 <xbskid> So I made a little progress with my BBB this past week. As a recap I have a MicroHDMI<->HDMI cable and an HDMI<->DVI adapter. The adapter works on my monitor with my RasPi and my PS3, but not the BBB. The BBB does, however, work on my TV.
May 12 17:36:56 <xbskid> It sort of worked on my monitor at work; it output at 1280x1024, but the monitor complained that the input frequency was incompatible.
May 12 17:37:33 <xbskid> Eventually it showed the desktop, but the image was covered in blue lines.
May 12 17:37:52 <mru> you don't like blue?
May 12 17:37:55 <xbskid> I brought up the Displays/Monitors config panel, and it said the refresh rate was 0.
May 12 17:38:07 <xbskid> I don't not like blue; my car's blue.
May 12 17:38:19 <xbskid> My pants are blue.
May 12 17:38:49 <xbskid> My point is that it looked like it wasn't using the correct refresh rate.
May 12 17:40:45 <xbskid> Granted, I haven't given the video documentation a good look (Don't even know where it is). Haven't really had the opportunity to debug it.
May 12 18:08:39 <funkrusha> one question: isn't it possible to digitalRead the state of a output pin? (with node.js and bonescript)
May 12 18:25:05 <Zoza> Hello, I want to generate an angstrom distribution for my beagleboard-xM Rev. C2 - I want to stick with Kernel Version > 3 for the omap_mux for GPIO. However my current distro feed can't install same packages and say not found. I want to know the most up to date distro and feed for my case.
May 12 18:26:51 <mickae> Hi
May 12 18:27:45 <mickae> I'm trying to do a cross compilation and got this error in return
May 12 18:27:50 <mickae> => /usr/local/angstrom/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/libcairo.so: undefined reference to `__longjmp_chk@GLIBC_2.1
May 12 18:28:02 <mickae> does someone know what does it mean ?
May 12 18:28:31 <mru> it means what it says
May 12 18:28:44 <mru> usually such errors are caused by mixing libc versions
May 12 18:38:59 <mickae> mru ; I sent an email about that, you can find the content here : http://pastebin.com/mp9nM3pb
May 12 18:39:15 <mickae> could you pleaseee look a little at it ?
May 12 18:42:11 <KotH_> mru: i want those! :-)
May 12 18:42:45 <mru> KotH_: ?
May 12 18:42:47 <samch> hello
May 12 18:43:13 <samch> one example for read ADC in C/c++ for beaglebone black?
May 12 18:43:35 <samch> and for PWM
May 12 18:43:50 <KotH> 12:49 #beagle: < mru> KotH:
May 12 18:43:50 <KotH> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/10/japanese_phone_pants/
May 12 18:44:08 <KotH> sorry, i'm lagging... was kind of "offline" for a couple of days
May 12 18:48:39 <_av500_> KotH: welcome back
May 12 18:49:23 <KotH> thx
May 12 19:24:47 <oy> hi all
May 12 19:24:59 <oy> anyone has experience with beadaframe?
May 12 20:10:24 <Qantourisc> Does beaglebone has an uart ? (not serial)
May 12 20:10:31 <mru> huh?
May 12 20:10:52 <mru> when is a uart not serial?
May 12 20:10:53 <Qantourisc> Specs say USB and pins
May 12 20:10:57 <ssi> is that a riddle?
May 12 20:11:18 <Qantourisc> So RS223 is a 1:1 map to uart ?
May 12 20:11:21 <dm8tbr> maybe a parallel uart? ;)
May 12 20:11:34 <mru> dm8tbr: good luck with that
May 12 20:11:42 <mru> what with the 'a' and all...
May 12 20:11:55 <dm8tbr> could get fun
May 12 20:12:10 <Qantourisc> that also mean RS232 to RS485 converts are possible ?
May 12 20:12:32 <Qantourisc> ok yes :)
May 12 20:12:38 * dm8tbr wonders what Qantourisc is /really/ up to
May 12 20:12:41 <Qantourisc> new question does it has RS223 :)
May 12 20:12:47 <Qantourisc> dm8tbr: connecting to RS485
May 12 20:13:12 <mru> chapter 19 in the trm covers the uarts
May 12 20:13:38 <ssi> RS485 is just a physical layer thing
May 12 20:13:38 <dm8tbr> and you don't need to go to RS232C if you need RS485...
May 12 20:13:47 <ssi> you can do ttl to RS485 with balanced line drivers
May 12 20:14:34 <Qantourisc> ttl ?
May 12 20:14:44 <Qantourisc> transisto transfer logic ?
May 12 20:14:54 <Qantourisc> you mean reading bit per bit ?
May 12 20:24:49 <woglinde> bit bang
May 12 20:51:15 <china> hi!
May 12 20:51:41 <Guest47249> hi!
May 12 20:52:25 <Guest47249> anyone have any luck getting ubuntu running?
May 12 21:07:03 <MH___> quantourisc there is an RS485 cape and an RS232 cape
May 12 21:10:13 <MH___> Guest47249 yes
May 12 21:32:45 <chupacabra> MH___, When i stick the ubuntu image in do i hold down user to get it to work?
May 12 21:33:13 <vvu> press S2 to boot from mmc
May 12 21:33:45 <chupacabra> cool thanks.  havnt seen it spelled out like that.
May 12 21:33:53 <MH___> chupacabra are you on the BBBlack?  and vvu is right.
May 12 21:34:06 <chupacabra> ya, black
May 12 21:34:26 <chupacabra> I reflashed as i had ssh problems
May 12 21:34:33 <MH___> If I put an ubuntu image sd in mine and boot, I boot to ubuntu.
May 12 21:34:35 <chupacabra> had to hold it down then
May 12 21:34:55 <chupacabra> hmm ill try it now.
May 12 21:35:06 <chupacabra> not touching anything
May 12 21:35:34 <vvu> it is smth with the uEvn.txt i think
May 12 21:35:39 <MH___> chupacabra, I have not succefully written the ubuntu image to the emmc.  I have only boot to ubuntu off the sd
May 12 21:35:59 <chupacabra> k
May 12 21:36:00 <vvu> do not know the issue exactly but i saw ppl talking around here about this behaviour
May 12 21:36:38 <chupacabra> hmm acting like it did when i flashed
May 12 21:37:06 <MH___> I do not.  I haven't looked into it.  I don't really need ubuntu, and I am sticking with angstrom most likely for the rest of my developments
May 12 21:37:31 <vvu> chupacabra: your eMMC is empty right now ?
May 12 21:37:56 <chupacabra> all on mine is angstrom now
May 12 21:38:10 <thurgood> MH___:  how big is the ubuntu image?
May 12 21:38:10 <chupacabra> where does it hang?
May 12 21:38:25 <chupacabra> seems like 300 m
May 12 21:38:38 <chupacabra> but didnt really look
May 12 21:38:40 <vvu> chupacabra: use this tutorial here http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Raring_13.04_armhf
May 12 21:38:44 <vvu> i made it work with this
May 12 21:38:59 <vvu> with eMMC with angstrom/without OS on eMMC
May 12 21:39:29 <chupacabra> ya, i did
May 12 21:39:33 <MH___> On my emmc I have an updated angstrom.  vvu how long did it take to write ubuntu on the emmc?
May 12 21:39:49 <vvu> i don't have ubuntu on eMMC, only on sdcard
May 12 21:40:05 <MH___> okay good that is what I have
May 12 21:40:09 <vvu> did not try to figure out how to put it onto eMMC, don't really need it there. i just wanted to test how it works
May 12 21:40:46 <chupacabra> i probably want fedora on mine.  gotta work up to that
May 12 21:41:06 <thurgood> and how much emmc is there?
May 12 21:41:51 <MH___> ref. manual it
May 12 21:41:57 <thurgood> if you can't get the rootfs below 256MB don't bother
May 12 21:42:22 <thurgood> it was a rhetorical question
May 12 21:42:45 <thurgood> 2Gb is on 256MB
May 12 21:42:48 <MH___> ah
May 12 21:43:06 <thurgood> only
May 12 21:44:08 * chupacabra is used to working with 16 megs max.
May 12 21:45:18 <chupacabra> its flashing or something
May 12 21:45:31 <chupacabra> nothing on video
May 12 21:45:47 <MH___> chupacabra I let mine flash for several hours and got no where....
May 12 21:45:57 <chupacabra> hehehe ok
May 12 21:46:08 <chupacabra> ill go to the pool for a while.
May 12 21:46:26 <chupacabra> look for mothers
May 12 21:48:41 <chupacabra> the angstrom distro went on in 45 mins like the docs said
May 12 21:50:05 <chinese> hi
May 12 21:50:16 <MH___> hi chinese
May 12 21:50:47 <chinese> Happy Sunday to all - has anyone in here had any luck booting ubunto from an SD card on the beaglebone black?
May 12 21:50:57 <chinese> ubuntu*
May 12 21:51:33 <MH___> chinese, we've been having a bit of a discussion on this.  Yes, we can boot ubuntu from SD.  currently I do not know of anyone booting ubuntu from emmc.
May 12 21:52:08 <chinese> hmm, when booted are all the lights fully on (no flashing)?
May 12 21:52:21 <chupacabra> chinese, trying now
May 12 21:52:53 <MH___> Yes, that takes about 45+ minutes for the angstrom distribution.  When it has flashed all leds will be lit.
May 12 21:53:01 <chupacabra> yup
May 12 21:53:45 <chupacabra> chinese, you having success?
May 12 21:53:48 <thurgood> are any distributors carrying bb black stock at the moment?
May 12 21:53:58 <chinese> no luck
May 12 21:54:03 <trickyhero> i don't think so
May 12 21:54:08 <chupacabra> i got mine in 4 days
May 12 21:54:34 <chinese> I've done the "dd if of" with the ubuntu image to my SD card, then when I plug it in - all lights stay on and I don't see anything via HDMI
May 12 21:54:45 <thurgood> all the places I normally check are out :/
May 12 21:55:01 <MH___> If you are using the ubuntu distro you will also need to install the video drivers.
May 12 21:55:10 <chinese> Oooh how do I do that?
May 12 21:55:16 <vvu> i have tried my ubuntu only over serial cable
May 12 21:55:17 <chupacabra> my guys said they were out too but it got here fast
May 12 21:55:26 <chupacabra> newark
May 12 21:55:28 <chinese> can I talk  ubuntu via usb?
May 12 21:55:40 <MH___> I talk with it over ethernet
May 12 21:55:53 <chinese> how do i find its IP?
May 12 21:55:55 <vvu> ssh into it...should have ssh active i think after dd
May 12 21:56:02 <vvu> just search ur router for dhcp lease
May 12 21:56:33 <chupacabra> on usb it has its own network
May 12 21:56:47 <chupacabra> and a static ip
May 12 21:56:59 <chupacabra> seems to me
May 12 21:57:13 <vvu> chinese: are you sure? for me it wasn't like that
May 12 21:57:33 <chinese> vvu: what?
May 12 21:57:38 <vvu> with the usb network
May 12 21:57:45 <chupacabra> ssh was broken on mine till i reflashed
May 12 21:57:46 <vvu> wrong name, sorry
May 12 21:58:10 <thurgood> yeah I think they set a static ip on the initial image
May 12 21:59:38 <chupacabra> ok headed poolside
May 12 21:59:45 <chinese> i'm getting ssh connection refused
May 12 21:59:47 <chinese> :(
May 12 22:00:42 <MH___> Did you hold the boot button when you turned it on? If you did, I wouldn't.
May 12 22:08:35 <chinese> no holding of any buttons
May 12 22:21:24 <slug> anybody getting the edimax ew7811 working on the black ?
May 12 22:28:32 <chinese> nope
May 12 22:29:20 * mru is not a fan of edimax
May 12 22:29:37 <mru> not since two GbE switches of that brand failed in bizarre ways
May 12 22:30:49 * vvu upvotes mru s opinion on edimax
May 12 22:32:54 <mru> replaced them with netgear managed switches and have been happy ever since
May 12 22:33:05 <slug> i got that brand because it seemed to work fine on linux
May 12 22:33:41 * SilicaGel Do Not Eat
May 12 22:34:08 <mru> gear that comes with rackmount brackets tends to be of a little better quality than the usual consumer stuff
May 12 22:34:48 <SilicaGel> yeah
May 12 22:34:54 <SilicaGel> "Oooooh, look at the ears on that one!"
May 12 22:35:45 <mru> vlan support is nice to have too
May 12 22:41:26 <ds2> wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee gyro, accelerometer, magnetometer, and pressure sensors working on the bone!
May 12 22:42:09 <thurgood> but do you have it working in bonescript :P
May 12 22:42:19 <ds2> let me see how to put that...
May 12 22:42:23 <thurgood> lol
May 12 22:42:24 <ds2> screw that crap
May 12 22:45:58 <SpeedEvil> ds2: no sun sensor, star tracker, horizon tracker, gravity gradient sensor, e-field, and artificial nose?
May 12 22:46:42 <mru> I want a sub-etha sens-o-matic
May 12 22:51:01 <chinese> ugh no luck booting ubuntu
May 12 22:51:11 <chinese> Pi was so much easier
May 12 22:51:25 <trickyhero> pi can't do ubuntu
May 12 22:51:32 <mru> pi can't do
May 12 22:52:21 <chinese> pi does ubuntu no problemo!
May 12 22:53:02 <trickyhero> i thought it only had support for higher arm versions
May 12 22:54:23 <ds2> SpeedEvil: actually, those are next on the list to be tested
May 12 22:54:33 <ds2> it is all on teh board
May 12 22:54:52 <thurgood> heh vmware doesn't even do ubuntu 13.04  with "no problem"
May 12 22:55:37 <trickyhero> beaglebone black looks pretty awesome
May 12 22:56:39 * SpeedEvil wishes someone would make a similar device with sane power use.
May 12 22:56:50 <SpeedEvil> that is ~10mW idle.
May 12 22:57:24 <ds2> how many would you like?
May 12 22:57:41 <trickyhero> pi?
May 12 22:58:40 <SpeedEvil> I mean a Linux SBC, not sensors
May 12 22:58:54 <SpeedEvil> and the pi uses over a watt idle
May 12 22:58:57 <ds2> yes, how many would you like
May 12 22:59:09 <mru> watt the f***?
May 12 22:59:39 <ds2> it is only 10mA or so
May 12 23:00:14 <ds2> the BBC isn't that far off from that
May 12 23:00:58 <SpeedEvil> BBC?
May 12 23:01:04 <ds2> Beagle Board Classic
May 12 23:01:07 <thurgood> Classic Beagleboard
May 12 23:01:13 <ds2> vs the BBB/BBW/BBX
May 12 23:01:13 <ds2> :D
May 12 23:01:25 <ds2> fun w/TLAs
May 12 23:01:34 <Shadyman> ds2: Those TLAs. I dont' think they mean what you think they mean.
May 12 23:01:46 <SpeedEvil> ah
May 12 23:01:47 <thurgood> 2 of them anywy :P
May 12 23:02:47 <ds2> the Snowball kernel is good for something
May 12 23:03:31 <chinese> Just tried again to get ubuntu working and the lights 2 and 4 flash then all flash like crazy then they all go black (power included)
May 12 23:04:59 <SpeedEvil> ds2: can you point to anywhere stating that? I can't see that low power idle mentioned anywhere
May 12 23:05:18 <ds2> SpeedEvil: for which board?
May 12 23:05:56 <SpeedEvil> any available SBC
May 12 23:06:09 <ds2> SpeedEvil: look at the numbers for the OMAP3530
May 12 23:06:18 <ds2> you need the right software to do that
May 12 23:06:33 <SpeedEvil> you also need the right hardware
May 12 23:07:10 <ds2> the BBC as built isn't that far off from the HW side
May 12 23:07:18 <SpeedEvil> my omap3530 system will do ~10mw idle, but it's a n900 phone
May 12 23:07:24 <ds2> you need to make some minor mods - like pop the LEDs
May 12 23:07:39 <ds2> and remote the LDO. none of which are too complicated to do
May 12 23:07:46 <ds2> monkey with a hot stick can do those
May 12 23:07:52 <SpeedEvil> the only post I found that seems semirelvant was in 'off'. ode
May 12 23:07:54 <SpeedEvil> mode
May 12 23:07:58 <SpeedEvil> not idle
May 12 23:08:31 <SpeedEvil> the appropriate power switching and regulation also needs to be there.
May 12 23:08:46 <ds2> yes, hence removing the LDO
May 12 23:08:58 <ds2> there isn't that much on that board. just look at the schematics
May 12 23:09:57 <mranosta1> so 5V to 40V charge pump. sane or insane?
May 12 23:10:16 <ds2> mranosta1: how many amps @ 40V?
May 12 23:10:18 <SpeedEvil> charge pump, probably not very sane
May 12 23:10:30 <mranosta1> ds2: 11mA
May 12 23:10:32 <SpeedEvil> boost converter - easy
May 12 23:10:51 <ds2> that's almost 500mA input
May 12 23:11:07 <ds2> charge pumps would have a hard time
May 12 23:11:21 <mranosta1> yeah i was guessing not sane
May 12 23:11:33 <ds2> how regulated do you need the 40V?
May 12 23:11:52 <mranosta1> can be discontinous
May 12 23:12:09 <ds2> what do you have on the board?
May 12 23:12:15 <ds2> any uC's?
May 12 23:12:55 <mranosta1> it is a cape
May 12 23:13:31 <ds2> for BBW or BBB?
May 12 23:13:39 <mranosta1> does it matter?
May 12 23:13:44 <ds2> yes
May 12 23:13:54 <ds2> the BBW has a boost converter that gets near there
May 12 23:14:01 <ds2> the BBB, AFAIK, is missing those signals
May 12 23:14:15 <ds2> look at the WLED driver off of the PMIC
May 12 23:14:52 <chinese> does anyone have a good link tut for installing ubuntu on a BBB?
May 12 23:16:13 <mranosta1> ds2: ah yes i looked into that but you can't power a triode with it :)
May 12 23:16:22 <ds2> mranosta1: why not?
May 12 23:16:26 <mranosta1> common ground
May 12 23:16:32 <ds2> ahhhhh
May 12 23:16:37 <ds2> and you can't float the triode?
May 12 23:16:59 <ds2> why not use a triode with a lower plate voltage requirement?
May 12 23:17:01 <mranosta1> float the grid to cathode? :)
May 12 23:17:14 <ds2> I assume you are doing an audio amp, right?
May 12 23:17:32 <mranosta1> no vfd display :)
May 12 23:17:35 <ds2> if so - AC couple it. reference all the triode stuff off the LED- lines
May 12 23:17:47 <ds2> oh
May 12 23:17:55 <ds2> how big of a VFD display?
May 12 23:18:10 <ds2> 4x40 ones?
May 12 23:18:57 <mranosta1> no the IV-18
May 12 23:19:53 <ds2> you're a EE right? :D
May 12 23:20:18 <mranosta1> i play one on IRC
May 12 23:20:34 <Shadyman> ^
May 12 23:20:39 <Shadyman> mranosta1: Your 1 is showing.
May 12 23:22:16 <ds2> you can either use a chip or use a transistor to make a boost converter
May 12 23:23:49 <ds2> you can probally figure it out by trialand error using LTspice
May 12 23:25:06 <mranostay> ds2: yeah if i could use the PMIC header that would be kickass
May 12 23:27:18 <ds2> mranyostay: I suspect you can if you are creative about what gets grounded
May 12 23:27:31 <mranostay> heh
May 12 23:28:00 <ds2> that thing probally gives you something like +/-20V since inductors will bounce bothways
May 12 23:28:34 <ds2> but a 2N2222 + an inductor load driving a Zener might do it
May 12 23:30:20 <slug> i'm getting just 297.40 for BogoMIPS on the BBB, is this normal?
May 12 23:31:13 <mranostay> ds2: would a low pass filter work on a MOSFET input?
May 12 23:31:13 <Turl> slug: bogomips don't mean anything
May 12 23:31:23 <mranostay> want a simple way to prevent a high duty cycle rate
May 12 23:31:34 <ds2> mranostay: sure but that won't effect duty cycles
May 12 23:31:41 <Turl> slug: that's why they're bogo aka bogus
May 12 23:31:44 <slug> Turi: I know, but just wanted to know what's the ballpark "normal" number
May 12 23:31:46 <ds2> a MOSFET looks like a capacitor
May 12 23:32:27 <mranostay> ah right
May 12 23:34:01 <slug> Turi: just ran cpufreq-info and it reports: "current CPU frequency is 300 MHz (asserted by call to hardware)."
May 12 23:34:28 <slug> i used cpufreq-set to change it to 1GHz
May 12 23:34:47 <slug> i'm doing a opkg upgrade and it was taking ages
May 12 23:35:34 <slug> now cpufreq-info reports 1000MHz and /proc/cpuinfo 990.68 BogoMIPS
May 12 23:35:59 <slug> is the speed set dynamically or at startup? (this is probably a FAQ ;)
May 12 23:36:14 <beekman> Anyone have ubuntu 13.04 running on their BBB?
May 12 23:41:42 <Turl> slug: it might be using ondemand cpu governor
May 12 23:42:14 <slug> turi: that's true, but the update tool was using 100% of the CPU at 300MHz
May 12 23:42:32 <Turl> slug: btw, use tab completion on your irc client, you're typing my nickname wrong and I don't get notified :)
May 12 23:42:50 <Turl> maybe it was running niced then
May 12 23:43:53 <slug> Turl: oh, sorry , just noticed now :)
May 12 23:44:17 <slug> Turl: no niced PR=20 NI=0
May 12 23:45:07 <Turl> well I dunno then :)
May 12 23:46:07 <Turl> bbl
May 12 23:58:34 <ssi> I hate repacking ballnuts
May 12 23:59:01 <ds2> ssi: why did you let them out?
May 12 23:59:11 <ssi> they were scratching at the back door
May 13 00:00:07 <ds2> does that ballnut have balls that alternate in size?
May 13 00:00:29 <ssi> no
May 13 00:01:20 <ds2> what's this from?
May 13 00:01:26 <ssi> it's a roton nut
May 13 00:01:41 <ds2> what kind of machine is that?
May 13 00:01:53 <ssi> it's not a kind of machine, it's a ballscrew manufacturer :P
May 13 00:02:11 <ds2> ah
May 13 00:02:31 <shapr> What's the polarity on the black 5v DC barrel connector?
May 13 00:02:51 <ssi> ah I'm in the wrong channel, no wonder the silly questions :0
May 13 00:04:09 <ds2> I have always been warned to not let the balls out
May 13 00:04:14 <ds2> or your life will get miserable fast
May 13 00:04:44 <ssi> the first time, yeah
May 13 00:04:50 <ssi> once you get the hang of repacking them, it's not that bad
May 13 00:04:53 <ssi> it's just annoying
May 13 00:04:57 <ds2> ah
May 13 00:05:14 <ssi> this machine, I have to put the nut on the screw while it's installed in the base of the machine, and there's not a lot of room to work
May 13 00:05:23 <ssi> I figured out a workable technique for it now, but the first time I let the balls out
May 13 00:05:34 <ds2> what kind of machine is it?
May 13 00:05:44 <ssi> just a little g0704
May 13 00:05:46 <ssi> working on converting it
May 13 00:05:49 <shapr> So, no word on the polarity of the bbb 5v dc barrel connector?
May 13 00:05:57 <ssi> it's been lying on my shop floor in pieces for like 2 years
May 13 00:05:57 <ds2> is that Grizzly model number?
May 13 00:05:58 <shapr> Will it fry if I put the power in the wrong way around?
May 13 00:05:59 <ssi> yes
May 13 00:06:06 <ssi> shapr: likely!  check the schematic
May 13 00:06:10 <ssi> it's probably positive post
May 13 00:06:17 <ds2> shapr: check the SRM
May 13 00:06:18 <shapr> Is that a convention these days?
May 13 00:06:23 * shapr googles for SRM
May 13 00:07:08 <ds2> is that an antibacklash nut?
May 13 00:07:15 <shapr> oh, system reference manual :-)
May 13 00:07:28 <ssi> eh, not exactly?
May 13 00:07:44 <ds2> even with ball screws, unless it is preloaded, there will still be some lash
May 13 00:07:44 <ssi> it's a cheap ballnut.  Much less backlash than any non-ballnut, but more than an expensive one
May 13 00:07:55 <ds2> ah
May 13 00:08:02 <ssi> they're not preloaded from roton
May 13 00:08:10 <ssi> when I repacked it, I included a handful of oversized balls
May 13 00:08:10 <ssi> helps
May 13 00:08:36 * shapr learns by reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_screw
May 13 00:09:06 <ds2> so far I am happy with the performance of a simple V screw machine
May 13 00:09:19 <chupacabra> ok i rebooted holding the user button
May 13 00:09:41 <ssi> ignorance is bliss I suppose :)
May 13 00:10:03 <ds2> I have used a proper machine...i just don't see enough of a difference
May 13 00:10:21 <ssi> you don't see a difference between allthread and ballscrew? :P
May 13 00:10:33 <shapr> Nice, the system reference manual PDF has the table of contents as clickable links.
May 13 00:10:39 <ds2> not really
May 13 00:10:40 <ssi> shapr: as it should be!
May 13 00:10:53 <ds2> but I do have the preloaded brass nuts for min. lash on the V screws
May 13 00:11:04 <ds2> and I donno if they are all thread or something better
May 13 00:11:15 <shapr> ssi: Yah, but should be and is aren't the same
May 13 00:11:19 <ds2> and I am looking at the results of G03/G02 stuff
May 13 00:11:21 <ssi> shapr: indeed
May 13 00:11:43 <shapr> I still don't get ethernet lights with the most recent angstrom image :-(
May 13 00:12:06 <shapr> SRM does not immediately list the polarity of the barrel connector
May 13 00:12:13 <ssi> check the schematic
May 13 00:12:15 <ssi> it should be obvious
May 13 00:12:28 <shapr> Assuming I can read schematics :-P
May 13 00:12:42 * shapr digs around for the schematic
May 13 00:12:43 <ssi> yeah, tip positive definitely
May 13 00:13:02 <shapr> So, the post in the center is positive?
May 13 00:13:06 <shapr> You read the schematic that quickly?
May 13 00:13:15 <ssi> yes
May 13 00:13:22 <ssi> to both questions
May 13 00:13:33 <ssi> page 2, top left
May 13 00:13:37 <ssi> connector P1
May 13 00:13:46 <shapr> I can read Swedish and Category Theory and all sorts of interesting things, but not schematics :-|
May 13 00:13:50 <ssi> lol
May 13 00:14:13 <shapr> ohh, that IS a post symbol isn't it?
May 13 00:14:18 <ssi> looks that way to me :)
May 13 00:14:27 <ssi> more importantly, the little triangle looking guy is DEFINITELY a sleeve
May 13 00:14:28 <shapr> well, if it fries, I cries
May 13 00:14:44 <shapr> and then goes back to my Pi, which hasn't fried yet
May 13 00:16:08 <ds2> that's an interesting dessert idea
May 13 00:16:11 <ds2> deep fried pi
May 13 00:27:06 <L84Supper> who named the expansion boards capes? I guessing shield was taken by Arduino.
May 13 00:32:21 <shapr> There's also the fact that arduino shields are just electrically connected, where beaglebone capes are required to have a tiny bit of storage describing which pins they use, and for what
May 13 00:34:07 <seamus_> I'm trying to put the 5/8 image, on the sd card that I had the 4/13 image on.  but I can't get windows to think the card has more than 70MB... any suggestions?
May 13 00:37:42 <samch> hello
May 13 00:38:10 <samch> where can i find a class in C++ for GPIO in beaglebone black
May 13 00:38:12 <samch> ?
May 13 00:39:32 <shapr> samch: You can do it in the shell, check out https://github.com/alexanderhiam/PyBBIO/issues/18
May 13 00:43:40 <ds2> an expansion board does not need any storage at all
May 13 00:43:51 <ds2> mine do not.
May 13 00:44:53 <L84Supper> so only some use a small serial eeprom for config? Are there any yet with 8-12b analog in at over 10kS/s?
May 13 00:49:35 <L84Supper> looks like no FPGA cape yet either
May 13 00:51:08 <shapr> L84Supper: logi-bone just won the cape contest, so I think they'll produce it
May 13 00:51:09 <samch> shapr but i need to do thrugh C++, without use system call
May 13 00:51:28 <shapr> samch: In that case, I don't know.
May 13 00:51:31 <NoProblem> Need help installing these package flask>=0.9 numpy>=1.6.2 pyserial>=2.6 tornado>=2.4.1 tornadio2>=0.0.4 PyYAML>=3.10
May 13 00:51:47 <NoProblem> No flask on opkg
May 13 00:52:56 <NoProblem> There a pip requirement.txt  that has these file I need to run a program
May 13 00:53:14 <NoProblem> But not sure how to do with beagebone
May 13 00:53:42 <NoProblem> On rpi all I do is sudo pip requirement.txt and it work
May 13 00:53:51 <NoProblem> Bot not on beagebone
May 13 00:54:02 <NoProblem> Please can someone  help
May 13 00:56:05 <L84Supper> yike that's about the smallest Spartan6 they can get
May 13 00:56:05 <shapr> NoProblem: try reading up on pip and using that to install the packages?
May 13 00:56:21 <NoProblem> Ok
May 13 00:56:40 <samch> any class for gpio in c++ for beaglebone black?
May 13 00:56:46 <L84Supper> shapr: what contest did they win?
May 13 00:57:56 <L84Supper> http://beagleboard.org/CapeContest/winners/  nevermind
May 13 01:01:01 <shapr> Another good place to ask questions is the beaglebone message board on groups.google.com
May 13 01:02:34 <NoProblem> Yeah I was hoping I could get help here but I guess google is a better source
May 13 01:05:17 <L84Supper> has anyone talked about making a 1GB ram version of the BBB?
May 13 01:06:23 <ds2> just build it yourself
May 13 01:06:34 <L84Supper> am3359's are ~$15 in China
May 13 01:07:08 <L84Supper> ds2: hate to have to if I can just buy them
May 13 01:08:43 <chupacabra> When I get back this room better be cleaned up!
May 13 01:10:26 <L84Supper> 256mb x 16 are ~$5ea
May 13 01:10:40 <shapr> L84Supper: The designs are open source, build one!
May 13 01:11:15 <L84Supper> thank you Captain Obvious
May 13 01:25:15 <macsboost> hi all, my beaglebone black booted, I connected and setup the network, then opened cloud nine and watched the tutorial.  after the tutorial I get an error message and could not access cloud 9.  I rebooted and still am unable to access cloud 9.  the drive is there but cloud nine is not.  I get the green bar showing the beaglebone is up and connected.  cloud nine gives this error: Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to 192.168.7.2:3
May 13 01:25:46 <shapr> macsboost: this is a known problem, try either "opkg install bonescript" or flash the latest image
May 13 01:26:32 <macsboost> 10-4!
May 13 01:27:05 <macsboost> thank you
May 13 01:29:27 * mranostay drinks
May 13 01:31:48 <mranostay> ds2: so what would you do to hw limit a duty cycle to a mosfet?
May 13 01:48:23 <rpaulo> I'm under the impression that the beaglebone black is not yet available, right?
May 13 01:48:57 <Spirilis> it's available
May 13 01:49:08 <Spirilis> just hard to get b/c they sold out so quickly and CircuitCo is trying to catch up
May 13 01:49:22 <Spirilis> I personally ordered 2 the day it was released, within 2hr or so and got them a few days later
May 13 01:49:38 <Spirilis> so I guess you could say it was available for a few days when it was first released and now there's a wait :)
May 13 01:51:33 <rpaulo> I see
May 13 01:51:48 <ptan> I have 4 of them in front of me right now..
May 13 01:51:51 <rpaulo> is this not the full package? http://specialcomp.com/beaglebone/
May 13 02:06:58 <L84Supper> Spirilis:  I hear that the files are all open source so you can just build your own  :)
May 13 02:08:20 <rpaulo> they are, but it's not like I own a PCB factory :)
May 13 02:09:02 <dhanishvijayan> anyone able to crosscompile opencv programs in your host machine??
May 13 02:12:56 <Spirilis> yeah, I haven't tried looking for a hobbyist-friendly PCB fab shop that can do 6-layer PCBs
May 13 02:13:07 <Spirilis> CircuitCo has all the experience building & testing them ;)
May 13 02:15:28 <L84Supper> Spirilis: how many pieces and where are you located?
May 13 02:17:08 <Spirilis> L84Supper: I have no projects of that scale in mind, and don't care to embark on any, and I have no intention of building my own beaglebone black :)
May 13 02:21:24 <L84Supper> other than the PRU in the am3359, why use a BBB over something like the cubieboard with the allwiner A10?
May 13 02:31:55 <trip9> apparently the wifi/bt capes don't work with the bbblack.  anyone know why?
May 13 02:33:02 <prpplague> trip9: because they use some of the same signals as the eMMC and lcd. in fact if you try to boot the black with the tiwi capes, you will most likely damage the black
May 13 02:33:18 <prpplague> trip9: a complete list of approved capes for black is forthcoming
May 13 02:33:34 <trip9> cool, thanks
May 13 02:33:56 <Newspeak> Question: I set up my SD card for a Beagle xM Raring image. I don't have the board on me, and will only do so tomorrow. What parameters should I pass to qemu-system-arm if I want to test-drive from my physical SD card?
May 13 02:34:54 <prpplague> L84Supper: there are literally a thousand answers to your question, and if you have to ask, then most likely you won't understand the answers
May 13 02:35:44 <L84Supper> prpplague: I'm interested in the answers
May 13 02:35:59 <ka6sox> L84Supper, nobody has time for 1000 answers.
May 13 02:37:08 <L84Supper> so far it's just that people are too busy and some don't understand the question, but assume that they do
May 13 02:37:08 <shapr> L84Supper: You could write a blog post comparing the two and see what you get in the comments
May 13 02:37:19 <shapr> L84Supper: instead of being snippy
May 13 02:38:01 <L84Supper> or I could pass a hat that people could write notes on
May 13 02:39:59 <L84Supper> who designed this beagle?
May 13 02:40:21 <L84Supper> same as the last one or the panda?
May 13 02:41:08 <bieberbone> anyone experienced usb apple keyboard not working?
May 13 02:42:04 <bieberbone> it was fine with my raspberry pi... i plug it through a powered hub through a dell monitor
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