**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 20 02:59:59 2013
Jun 20 04:43:25 <mranostay> Crofton|work: and Crofton
Jun 20 04:45:04 <av500> and Crofton too?
Jun 20 04:45:43 <mranostay> av500: my favorite serbian german troll!
Jun 20 04:46:22 <mranostay> oh noes ka6sox-near is too close
Jun 20 04:46:35 <mastiff> how do trolls compile with neon cmake
Jun 20 04:47:01 <mranostay> mastiff: you are too close to being on topic
Jun 20 04:47:16 <ka6sox-near> he did mention trolls
Jun 20 04:47:58 <jey> qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x90000000 any Idea guys???
Jun 20 04:48:23 <m_billybob> yeah, dont write outside of ROM space.
Jun 20 04:48:29 <mranostay> -ENEEDMOREBEER
Jun 20 04:49:27 <jey> I guess, im using obsolete u-boot source :(
Jun 20 04:49:32 <mastiff> trying to build gnuradio with neon support similar to the "building for E100" instructions  http://gnuradio.org/doc/doxygen/build_guide.html
Jun 20 04:49:41 <mastiff> on the bbb
Jun 20 04:50:25 <jey> can you guys give url for latest stable u-boot.. Actually im running in QEMU...
Jun 20 04:52:10 <mastiff>  fftw3f compiled ok with neon support on bbb
Jun 20 04:53:02 <av500> jey: mainline uboot
Jun 20 04:54:07 <m_billybob> weee gettign there
Jun 20 04:54:09 <m_billybob> 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 112.356 s, 9.3 MB/s
Jun 20 04:55:17 <thurgood> http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot/SourceCode would be "mainline"?
Jun 20 04:55:55 <mranostay> later trolls!
Jun 20 04:57:08 <m_billybob> av500, when booting nfs, have you ever had any gateway issues ? Curious, because when using a static ip, i get a gateway=0.0.0.0
Jun 20 04:57:54 <av500> I'd guess gateway does not matter
Jun 20 04:58:00 <av500> as long as the server is in the same subnet
Jun 20 04:58:37 <m_billybob> av500, kind of puts the kibosh on internet access though, unless you /sbin/route add . ..
Jun 20 05:04:17 <m_billybob> writes 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 110.804 s, 9.5 MB/s
Jun 20 05:04:28 <m_billybob> reads 1048576000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 88.7783 s, 11.8 MB/s
Jun 20 05:06:03 <mranostay> BEER!
Jun 20 05:06:12 <mastiff> isn't 0.0.0.0 the same as public IP?
Jun 20 05:06:22 <mranostay> any interface
Jun 20 05:08:43 <m_billybob> what it equates to, is that my bbb have no idea how to get to the internet
Jun 20 05:08:48 <m_billybob> has*
Jun 20 05:09:49 <mastiff> just put a dns server on it
Jun 20 05:10:12 <m_billybob> sure because two dns server on the same subnet is a great idea :P
Jun 20 05:11:26 <mastiff> then map it to the cambridge bt
Jun 20 05:11:38 <mastiff> get online that way
Jun 20 05:16:15 <mastiff> lame jokes aside this gets my bbb online:  route add default gw 192.168.7.1
Jun 20 05:16:46 <mastiff> might work for you if you're sharing through eth over usb
Jun 20 05:40:11 * KotH JIHADs
Jun 20 05:41:02 <emeb_mac> that time of day already?
Jun 20 06:32:38 <m_billybob> mastiff, no, im not
Jun 20 06:33:28 <m_billybob> _av500_, so just curious here. rootfs shouldwork over usb too yeah ? ethusb0 etc ?
Jun 20 06:40:09 <koen> "In the end, Leighton's messages start to degenerate into what might seem like an elaborate troll evidencing a serious misunderstanding of how Linux kernel development happens"
Jun 20 06:40:15 <koen> gotta love LWN coverage
Jun 20 06:41:25 <panto> moin
Jun 20 06:45:52 <emeb_mac> elaborate troll!
Jun 20 06:45:55 <jey> v2013.04 is stable right??
Jun 20 06:45:56 <emeb_mac> fit right in...
Jun 20 06:46:12 <jey> u-boot v2013.04
Jun 20 06:48:12 <jey> ??
Jun 20 06:48:54 <m_billybob> morn panto
Jun 20 06:53:02 <ChanneW> Does anybody know angstrom how to support Chinese?
Jun 20 06:55:21 <BeagleCam> u wanna input or display chinese?
Jun 20 06:56:41 <BeagleCam> I have question on the v4l2 drivers
Jun 20 06:57:05 <BeagleCam> what's relation between omap34xxcam.c and soc_camera.c?
Jun 20 07:01:33 <ChanneW> Yes，I wanna display chinese . In angstrom-manual.pdf  use packages with names " locale-base-LL-VV " ,but,it cannt find locale-base-cn-**
Jun 20 07:02:12 <av500> lyakh: ^^^^
Jun 20 07:02:54 <lyakh> av500: I first thought you wanted my opinion about displaying chinese :-)
Jun 20 07:03:26 <av500> lyakh: :)
Jun 20 07:03:30 <mranostay> learn american goddamnit!
Jun 20 07:03:33 <lyakh> BeagleCam: none at all. omap34xxcam isn't using soc-camera
Jun 20 07:03:38 <av500> mranostay: you first
Jun 20 07:04:24 <mranostay> av500: my eagle tattoo says all :P
Jun 20 07:04:52 <av500> lyakh: so, how does one display chinese?
Jun 20 07:05:25 <mranostay> av500: draw weird lines
Jun 20 07:06:40 <lyakh> av500: I cannot even figure out with a 100% certainty how to display cyrillic, I'm happy I don't have to display chinese all that often :)
Jun 20 07:07:42 <mranostay> unicode is for losers :P
Jun 20 07:08:05 <bluesmoke> Can the beagleboard black be used as a keyboard emulator? Specifically, can it be used to be placed between a keyboard and a computer and pass keystrokes to the computer while also excecuting events when certain keystrokes are pressed?
Jun 20 07:09:25 <av500> yes
Jun 20 07:09:41 <av500> the hardware allows this
Jun 20 07:09:51 <bluesmoke> and this requires a USB hub?
Jun 20 07:09:54 <av500> no
Jun 20 07:10:01 <av500> you have one host and one device port
Jun 20 07:10:08 <av500> no hub needed
Jun 20 07:10:23 <av500> what you need is a HID gadget driver
Jun 20 07:10:29 <av500> that emulates the keyboard
Jun 20 07:10:37 <bluesmoke> That sounds familliar.
Jun 20 07:10:40 <av500> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/gadget_hid.txt
Jun 20 07:10:45 <av500> and it even exists
Jun 20 07:10:50 <bluesmoke> :)
Jun 20 07:10:51 <av500> so, you
Jun 20 07:10:54 <av500> so, you're done
Jun 20 07:10:56 <av500> next!
Jun 20 07:11:21 <bluesmoke> thanks! one last question: to do this for a mouse and keyboard together, you need a hub on the device port?
Jun 20 07:12:01 <av500> on the host port
Jun 20 07:12:04 <av500> yes
Jun 20 07:12:14 <bluesmoke> got it. Thank you very much.
Jun 20 07:12:16 <av500> as for any case of using 2 usb devices
Jun 20 07:13:28 * mranostay av500 shakes to sleep
Jun 20 07:13:49 <KotH> .o0(always these violent youngsters)
Jun 20 07:14:11 * mranostay pull KotH into the mosh pit
Jun 20 07:14:24 <m_billybob> bright and sunny JIHAD to you KotH
Jun 20 07:14:45 <BeagleCam> I got totally confused with the camera dirver files
Jun 20 07:15:07 <BeagleCam> if soc_camera does not call omap34xxcam
Jun 20 07:15:15 <BeagleCam> how does it use isp?
Jun 20 07:15:45 <av500> ?
Jun 20 07:16:43 <mranostay> JIHAD mosh pit!
Jun 20 07:17:11 <av500> mo'pit
Jun 20 07:27:27 <mranostay> KotH: i'm not violent it was a shake hug
Jun 20 07:29:18 <carslan> hey there
Jun 20 07:29:45 <mranostay> carslan cause mranostay to sleep
Jun 20 07:29:48 * mranostay zzzz
Jun 20 07:30:15 <carslan> anyone worked on mt9p031 on beagleboard-xm rev. C ?
Jun 20 07:35:10 <BeagleCam> am reading this code
Jun 20 07:35:16 <BeagleCam> any progress?
Jun 20 07:39:58 <carslan> BeagleCam: are you talking to me?
Jun 20 07:45:59 * mranostay zzzz
Jun 20 07:46:02 <BeagleCam> yep
Jun 20 07:47:07 <carslan> BeagleCam: I managed to install the driver and I can see the video0 in dev
Jun 20 07:47:28 <carslan> but it only grabs the first frame as a whole green frame and the other frames are all empty
Jun 20 07:47:35 <carslan> any idea what went wrong?
Jun 20 07:49:48 <mosu_> Are there some licence restrictions on commercial products built using BeagleBoard?
Jun 20 07:50:41 <mranostay> mosu_: no nuclear reactors for one :P
Jun 20 07:51:47 <BeagleCam> carslan, did u try to reset the camera?
Jun 20 07:52:33 <carslan> BeagleCam:what do you mean by that?
Jun 20 07:54:01 <BeagleCam> sorry, i got messy
Jun 20 07:55:56 <BeagleCam> what cam board?
Jun 20 07:56:33 <dm8tbr> mranostay: yup, PDP-11 is the tool of choice for that
Jun 20 07:57:10 <carslan> LI-5M03
Jun 20 07:59:31 <BeagleCam> probably u need a patch
Jun 20 08:01:16 <carslan> Can you point me to that patch please?
Jun 20 08:01:34 <BeagleCam> not sure
Jun 20 08:01:46 <carslan> Because I already tried some patches and I ended up with destroying the whole OS
Jun 20 08:01:54 <BeagleCam> i remember there was a patch for this board
Jun 20 08:02:09 <BeagleCam> not sure if it has been merged
Jun 20 08:02:42 <BeagleCam> what kernel u using
Jun 20 08:03:38 <carslan> linux2.6.32
Jun 20 08:05:27 <BeagleCam> i was just suggested to use the latest kernel in another channel
Jun 20 08:05:35 <BeagleCam> #v4l
Jun 20 08:06:48 <carslan> I will give it a try, thank you
Jun 20 08:07:34 <av500> carslan: green means you are getting all 0x00
Jun 20 08:07:47 <Guest78338> dear sir
Jun 20 08:07:56 <av500> no sir please
Jun 20 08:08:18 <m_billybob> av500 what is a good resource for setting up tftp  for booting the BB ?
Jun 20 08:08:30 <Guest78338> how much cost in black board
Jun 20 08:09:05 <Guest78338> #beagle
Jun 20 08:09:23 <m_billybob> av500, e.g. im not too familiar with tftp and am a bit confused
Jun 20 08:09:43 <av500> Guest78338: its all on the website
Jun 20 08:09:45 <av500> $45
Jun 20 08:09:51 <av500> vaires with local retailers
Jun 20 08:09:54 <av500> varies
Jun 20 08:13:11 <koen> XorA: http://bartneck.de/publications/2013/agentsWithFaces/bartneckLEGOAgent.pdf
Jun 20 08:36:36 <av500> finally
Jun 20 08:36:45 <av500> we can put all the angstrom vs ubuntu ranting aside
Jun 20 08:36:51 <av500> there is android for the BBB
Jun 20 08:38:14 <XorA> koen: hehe
Jun 20 08:39:37 <m_billybob> that still doesnt cover debian ;)
Jun 20 08:39:59 <BeagleCam> how can i make bb startup in 5 sec
Jun 20 08:41:03 <philenotfound> BeagleCam: you want to slow it down?
Jun 20 08:41:26 <BeagleCam> i wanna it as fast as possible
Jun 20 08:42:42 <philenotfound> BeagleCam: i'm afraid you have to ditch angstrom and look to something lightweight like buildroot
Jun 20 08:42:58 <XorA> *blink*
Jun 20 08:43:55 <philenotfound> don't blink, the angels have the blue box
Jun 20 08:43:56 <ogra_> use a ramdisk with just busybox in it instead of a rootfs :)
Jun 20 08:44:03 <koen> philenotfound: that's nonsense
Jun 20 08:44:10 <av500> +1
Jun 20 08:44:20 <BeagleCam> what's ur opinion?
Jun 20 08:44:31 * XorA shoots philenotfound for blasphemous references
Jun 20 08:44:43 <KotH> koen: in the windows world, it makes absolutely sense
Jun 20 08:45:42 <philenotfound> koen: huh?
Jun 20 08:46:26 <KotH> philenotfound: angström is a linux like every other too. if you knwo what you are doing, you can get it fast the same way as buildroot, t3 or what ever else you call "lightweight"
Jun 20 08:46:36 <koen> what koth said
Jun 20 08:47:10 <KotH> philenotfound: it's just that angström comes with more stuff enabled by default than buildroot, to give you a better user experience
Jun 20 08:47:16 <BeagleCam> anybody tried to startup quickly?
Jun 20 08:47:41 <KotH> BeagleCam: afaik record is <1s into an opengl app
Jun 20 08:47:56 <BeagleCam> u mean i just need to rebuild the kernel with less stuff e.g. drivers?
Jun 20 08:48:09 <BeagleCam> wow
Jun 20 08:48:23 <KotH> BeagleCam: figure out what is using time at startup, it is not only the kernel
Jun 20 08:48:32 <BeagleCam> o
Jun 20 08:48:45 <philenotfound> KotH: of course, i just found it easier to fatten up a buildroot config than to slim down an angstrom one ;-)
Jun 20 08:48:50 <KotH> know thy system and speed will be given
Jun 20 08:48:56 <BeagleCam> seems lots of work to do
Jun 20 08:49:12 <KotH> getting an understanding of what you are doing is always a lot of work
Jun 20 08:49:19 <ogra_> does angström support bootchart ? if so, install it, check the charts
Jun 20 08:50:28 <av500> doesnt systemd do that anyway?
Jun 20 08:50:40 <av500> I remember koens "we can boot in 1s" talks
Jun 20 08:50:55 <ogra_> dunno, does systemd charting ?
Jun 20 08:51:18 <KotH> tea time!
Jun 20 08:51:32 <av500> ogra_: chartd
Jun 20 08:51:38 * ogra_ wouldnt be surprides if lemmart swallowed that too
Jun 20 08:51:43 <ogra_> heh
Jun 20 08:52:02 <ogra_> oh, my ... my typing sucks today
Jun 20 08:54:28 <XorA> when does systemd gain sentience?
Jun 20 09:04:42 <mru> XorA: omg, systemd is skynet!
Jun 20 09:07:25 * XorA is deleting systemd from all his boards just in case!
Jun 20 09:08:56 <koen> ogra_: auke's bootchart has been integrated into systemd, yes
Jun 20 09:09:19 <ogra_> ah, intresting
Jun 20 09:09:50 <koen> you can configure it to store one bootchart per boot or overwrite it each time
Jun 20 09:10:52 <koen> sample: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/minnow/bootchart-20130508-1105.svg
Jun 20 09:10:55 <av500> can you auto-tweet it?
Jun 20 09:11:30 <XorA> av500: yeah makes it easier for the NSA to optimise their devices then :-D
Jun 20 09:11:47 <kfoltman> av500: why do you want to increase SNR of twitter?
Jun 20 09:12:35 <av500> hmm
Jun 20 09:13:33 * av500 trows 5050s at mrpackethead
Jun 20 09:13:35 <av500> throws
Jun 20 09:14:03 <ogra_> hmm, 7s ... thats about as slow as my x86 laptop on ubuntu
Jun 20 09:21:28 <BeagleCam> orga_:how did you make it ?
Jun 20 09:25:54 <mrpackethead> av500: /me catchs them
Jun 20 09:26:35 <av500> :)
Jun 20 09:40:55 * KotH throws stones at mrpackethead 
Jun 20 09:41:35 <av500> the swiss are so rude
Jun 20 09:41:50 <sunfish> Is there somebody from BBB support team?
Jun 20 09:42:11 <av500> is there a BBB  support team?
Jun 20 09:42:26 <av500> sunfish: just ask
Jun 20 09:42:30 <av500> dont ask to ask
Jun 20 09:42:56 <sunfish> It seems there is bug with I2C1/2 pin enumeration
Jun 20 09:43:26 <sunfish> av500, I'm not asking to ask, just looking for appropriate person to report
Jun 20 09:43:41 <KotH> av500: just wanted to see whether our resident kiwi catches everything, or just 5050s :)
Jun 20 09:44:15 <jackmitchell> sunfish: if I'm guessing right; then it's not a bug per se
Jun 20 09:44:20 <KotH> sunfish: speak up, and you will reach the right people
Jun 20 09:44:31 <jackmitchell> sunfish: the i2c enumerations are the _count_ of the i2c busses enabled
Jun 20 09:44:47 <KotH> sunfish: and if you shout loud enough, they will even hear you ;)
Jun 20 09:45:09 <sunfish> '/dev/i2c-1 is linked with I2C2, /dev/i2c-2 is linked with I2C1
Jun 20 09:45:10 <jackmitchell> sunfish: they are not relative to the beaglebone enumerations
Jun 20 09:45:34 * jackmitchell should take up fortune telling
Jun 20 09:45:55 <sunfish> guys, it's kind of strange, isn't it?
Jun 20 09:46:12 <av500> mysterious
Jun 20 09:46:14 <jackmitchell> sunfish: not when you know the logic behind it; confusing yes; strange... not so much
Jun 20 09:46:29 <mru> the universe is strange indeed
Jun 20 09:46:35 <av500> the bone moves in mysterious ways
Jun 20 09:47:37 <sunfish> jackmitchell: is there some articles on this 'mysterious' things? ^-)
Jun 20 09:48:05 <jackmitchell> sunfish: visit the next circus and find the booth with a beagle sat outside; within you find me and my answers
Jun 20 09:48:17 <BeagleCam> does the latest kernel support dsplink?
Jun 20 09:49:18 <jackmitchell> sunfish: but no, these things probably should be in an FAQ somewhere; but the software changes so fast it is usually a losing battle to keep it in sync
Jun 20 09:49:50 <sunfish> jackmitchell: is there any links? I'm not sure what does "next circus" stand for.
Jun 20 09:50:19 <jackmitchell> sunfish: there are no links, you just have to work some things out for yourself I'm afraid
Jun 20 09:51:14 <mrpackethead> sunfish: I am teh general of BBB suport team. how many we help you
Jun 20 09:51:41 <mrpackethead> sunfish: I can refer you to any number of wonderful trolls
Jun 20 09:52:20 <KotH> mean kiwi is mean
Jun 20 09:52:30 <KotH> but i like that :)
Jun 20 09:52:31 <sunfish> mrpacketheat: basically there is confusing thing with i2c buses enumeration: /dev/i2c-1 is linked with I2C2, /dev/i2c-2 is linked with I2C1
Jun 20 09:52:42 <av500> yes
Jun 20 09:52:44 <av500> we knioe
Jun 20 09:52:46 <av500> know
Jun 20 09:54:16 <sunfish> mrpacketheat: gyus from here say it's ok hence albeit it's OK. Official FAQ re such things could save much time
Jun 20 09:55:46 <jackmitchell> it definitely would save my time keeping it up to date
Jun 20 09:55:52 <jackmitchell> s/would/wouldn't
Jun 20 09:55:55 <jackmitchell> damn
Jun 20 09:57:27 <sunfish> may be I'm stupid enough but I found this weird behaviour just using oscilloscope, other guys from the world could not have oscilloscope in touch :-)
Jun 20 10:00:43 <KotH> sunfish: an oscilloscope is an required debugging instrument when doing embedded systems
Jun 20 10:02:32 * panto actually goes by without
Jun 20 10:02:39 <panto> although I did break down and bought one
Jun 20 10:03:39 <av500> KotH: or just a LED and an fast eye
Jun 20 10:04:14 <panto> av500, +1
Jun 20 10:06:50 <mrpackethead> if it was easy, every troll would be doing it
Jun 20 10:06:51 <mrpackethead> :-)
Jun 20 10:07:00 <mrpackethead> av500: my eyes integrate too much
Jun 20 10:07:18 <mrpackethead> av500: so i get shades of grey
Jun 20 10:07:29 <panto> it all depends on the rate
Jun 20 10:07:39 <panto> everything integrates after all :)
Jun 20 10:08:06 <av500> mrpackethead: 50 shades is 5-6 bits :)
Jun 20 10:08:43 <av500> and you can do the deconvolution in your brain
Jun 20 10:08:59 <kfoltman> BeagleBone Black: Engineer's Quest IV
Jun 20 10:22:48 <das> Hmmm, got a company mail on my webmail, they're very proud of a brand new idea to sell. I think they reinvented the cloud....
Jun 20 10:24:17 <mru> patent it
Jun 20 10:27:14 <`jpi> hi where can i find PRU instruction set encoding ?
Jun 20 10:27:32 <`jpi> is it documented somewhere ?
Jun 20 10:28:53 <`jpi> !pru
Jun 20 10:29:22 <sunfish> Guys, is there any way to perform "echo BB-I2C1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr*/slots" during boot time?
Jun 20 10:30:43 <panto> put capemgr.enable_partno=BB-I2C1 in the kernel cmd line
Jun 20 10:30:51 <panto> uEnv.txt, optargs
Jun 20 10:33:33 <sunfish> thanks a lot
Jun 20 10:39:10 <Rupesh> hi
Jun 20 10:40:40 <Rupesh> we need support for install android jelly bean on embedded board
Jun 20 10:40:56 <Rupesh> for IP set top box
Jun 20 10:42:10 <av500> on what board?
Jun 20 10:42:29 <Rupesh> please send me proposal on aepower.contact@gmail.com
Jun 20 10:42:41 <av500> lol
Jun 20 10:42:51 <Crofton|work> mastiff, gnuradio?
Jun 20 10:42:58 <sunfish> panto: should it be loki this: optargs=quiet drm.debug=7 capemgr.enable_partno=BB-I2C1
Jun 20 10:43:00 <av500> please send me a $1000 down payment
Jun 20 10:43:03 <Russ> where's the camera?
Jun 20 10:43:13 * Russ searches around for the hidden camera
Jun 20 10:43:39 <Rupesh> you have to give us some documentation for finalize
Jun 20 10:44:22 <av500> did you fill out form b7?
Jun 20 10:44:36 <av500> without a B7, we cannot proceed
Jun 20 10:44:38 <Rupesh> no
Jun 20 10:45:10 <Rupesh> i am new on this site
Jun 20 10:45:16 <av500> what site?
Jun 20 10:45:28 <Russ> I thought form B7 was for later, when you are trying to pick through the smoldering rubble
Jun 20 10:45:38 <Russ> is it one of the upfront forms then?
Jun 20 10:45:56 <av500> the *new* B7
Jun 20 10:46:11 <`jpi> ok found here http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Programmable_Realtime_Unit#Instruction_Set
Jun 20 10:47:30 <Rupesh> what is B7
Jun 20 10:47:48 <`jpi> Rupesh: to send you document please pay first
Jun 20 10:47:56 <`jpi> $500 for documentation
Jun 20 10:47:58 <av500> Rupesh: I think you misunderstand
Jun 20 10:48:16 <`jpi> $10 -> for every line of code written
Jun 20 10:48:38 <av500> Rupesh: have a look at: http://beagleboard.org
Jun 20 10:48:41 <Rupesh> ok
Jun 20 10:49:01 <av500> how did you get here?
Jun 20 10:49:08 * Russ jbaqref ng jung cynprf ba gur vagrejrof guvf vf n abezny jnl gb pbagenpg fbsgjner
Jun 20 10:49:13 <Rupesh> then saw me some video of ported android on hardware
Jun 20 10:49:20 <av500> sure
Jun 20 10:49:23 <av500> people have done that
Jun 20 10:49:42 <av500> see the "rowboat" project
Jun 20 10:49:55 <av500> but this is a community of volunteers
Jun 20 10:50:00 <av500> you cannot demand support
Jun 20 10:50:57 <KotH> Russ: vaqvn
Jun 20 10:51:28 <Rupesh> i know about community but we also need some support to join this community for further development
Jun 20 10:51:31 <Russ> KotH, V'yy arrq rknpg fgrcf
Jun 20 10:52:34 <av500> Rupesh: you dont need to "join"
Jun 20 10:52:38 <KotH> Russ: Gnxr n cynar gb rhebcr. jura trggvat bss, fgneg jnyxvat rnfg jneqf, hagvy lbh fgneg fzryyvat fcvpl sbbq, gura ghea fbhgu
Jun 20 10:52:59 <KotH> Rupesh: if you want professional help, our company can provide you that. but it will cost you money
Jun 20 10:53:09 <Rupesh> actually still i had not checked beaglboard perfactly so i may be wrong
Jun 20 10:53:23 <av500> also, the beagle bone is the wrong board for an IP set top box
Jun 20 10:53:39 <`jpi> KotH: if you need professional mental help, i can provide you some tips (costs money)
Jun 20 10:53:57 <KotH> `jpi: thank, but i'm studying psychology myself
Jun 20 10:54:00 <Spirilis> KotH: lol
Jun 20 10:54:10 <Rupesh> please may i ask why wrong board ?
Jun 20 10:54:14 <`jpi> KotH: no need to waste your time.
Jun 20 10:54:42 <KotH> `jpi: waste of time? sitting in a large lecture hall with tons of nice girls?
Jun 20 10:54:53 <Spirilis> y'all made me apt-get install bsdgames just to decipher that
Jun 20 10:55:07 <Spirilis> now I am going to spend the rest of my drunken day playing atc
Jun 20 10:55:15 <KotH> `jpi: though, exams on hot summer days can be "distracting"
Jun 20 10:55:38 <Russ> KotH, first day of set theory, walked into one of those classrooms by mistake, knew pretty quickly I must be in the wrong place
Jun 20 10:55:39 <KotH> Spirilis: isnt that required by posix anywas
Jun 20 10:55:48 <KotH> Russ: hehe
Jun 20 10:55:57 <Russ> considered staying anyway
Jun 20 10:55:58 <av500> Rupesh: what do you want the board to do?
Jun 20 10:56:02 <av500> decode HD video?
Jun 20 10:56:06 <KotH> Russ: :)
Jun 20 10:56:28 <`jpi> ok i am out
Jun 20 10:57:11 <KotH> Russ: but i must say, girls who study hard sciences are easier to talk to than those who study social sciences. somehow they seem to look down on men
Jun 20 10:57:11 <Rupesh> board will play all android application on HDMI port and 5.1 surround sound system with wireless joystick
Jun 20 10:57:23 <Spirilis> KotH: bsdgames might be but spending all day long playing atc usually isn't demanded in any official specification documents
Jun 20 10:57:52 <Spirilis> ooh ooh, maybe I can play it on my bbb?  does angstrom ship with bsdgames?
Jun 20 10:57:53 <Russ> KotH, pretty sure they look down on all the potential test subjects
Jun 20 10:58:20 <Russ> "all android application" is pretty broad
Jun 20 10:58:33 <av500> Rupesh: so no video decoding?
Jun 20 10:58:51 <Russ> av500, there are many android applications that require video decoding hardware...
Jun 20 10:59:17 <av500> I know that
Jun 20 10:59:31 <Rupesh> we dont need
Jun 20 10:59:37 <av500> you dont need what?
Jun 20 10:59:49 <av500> so you just want to play games?
Jun 20 10:59:57 <av500> the GPU in the bone is not really fast
Jun 20 11:00:26 <av500> Rupesh: my advice, get a $50 HDMI Android stick
Jun 20 11:00:30 <Rupesh> yes game on large projector screen
Jun 20 11:00:38 <av500> same price
Jun 20 11:00:42 <av500> android already ported
Jun 20 11:00:44 <KotH> Russ: nope, quite the contrary
Jun 20 11:00:44 <av500> full HD
Jun 20 11:00:51 <av500> good GPU
Jun 20 11:00:56 <KotH> Russ: they are glad for anyone who agrees to be tested :)
Jun 20 11:01:36 <KotH> Russ: each and every study is lacking test subjects, hence they try to give you as many incentives as possible to agree to take part in a study
Jun 20 11:01:47 <Russ> I don't mean test subjects themselves, I mean people who aren't in the social sciences, people who don't understand how people and society really work, the "truth"
Jun 20 11:01:48 <av500> free chocolate?
Jun 20 11:01:59 <Russ> did someone say free chocolate?
Jun 20 11:02:12 <KotH> i have  some with me
Jun 20 11:02:17 <KotH> and we should eat it before it melts
Jun 20 11:02:19 <Russ> where do I send my consent form?
Jun 20 11:02:24 <KotH> <- here
Jun 20 11:02:40 <KotH> you will pay with your immortal soul and your firstborn
Jun 20 11:02:58 <KotH> no downpayments or credit cards accepted
Jun 20 11:02:59 <Russ> ? I thought I was signing up to be part of a test
Jun 20 11:03:08 <av500> it is a test
Jun 20 11:11:24 <KotH> doh! he is gone!
Jun 20 11:12:16 <av500> yes
Jun 20 11:12:46 <KotH> av500: you scared a canuck!
Jun 20 11:13:22 <KotH> av500: and just with a "yes"!
Jun 20 11:13:40 <av500> they dont make em like they used to
Jun 20 11:22:15 <gwryan> Hello. I'm using the BeagleBone_Rev_A6A_Production_11_22_2012 kernel on my bone to do some high-bandwidth USB communications and I've noticed that the kernel has CONFIG_MUSB_PIO_ONLY=y set. Does anyone know why DMA is turned off, and if I patch and compile my own kernel with it turned on, will something bad happen?
Jun 20 11:22:52 <KotH> because it wasnt implemented back then
Jun 20 11:23:08 <KotH> there was some work done on the musb, dunno if dma is working already
Jun 20 11:23:30 <panto> gwryan, usb dma doesn't work yet
Jun 20 11:23:45 <gwryan> well that's a good reason :)
Jun 20 11:23:47 <panto> there are patches that you can try to apply, but things are never simple with musb
Jun 20 11:25:16 <gwryan> is it unworking all the way to the the 3.8 kernel?
Jun 20 11:25:18 <KotH> ...things are never simple in reality
Jun 20 11:25:26 <gwryan> reality bites!
Jun 20 11:26:18 <KotH> nope, mranostay bites
Jun 20 11:26:38 <KotH> or wants to be bitten
Jun 20 11:26:57 <gwryan> are these the patches I can try? http://elinux.org/MUSB
Jun 20 11:32:56 <panto> no
Jun 20 11:32:59 <panto> those are very old
Jun 20 11:34:32 <cityLights> hi all
Jun 20 11:34:46 <cityLights> how to have the BBB use a wifi usb on boot?
Jun 20 11:34:59 <panto> plug it in?
Jun 20 11:35:00 <cityLights> I see wlan0 as the modules where loaded
Jun 20 11:35:39 <panto> perhaps you should configure it then
Jun 20 11:35:56 <cityLights> I edit the wpa-supplicant yet, using ifup wlan0 doesn't set the essid
Jun 20 11:37:15 <cityLights> need I edit the /etc/network/interfaces file?
Jun 20 11:37:44 <cityLights> I only added auto wlan0 before:
Jun 20 11:37:44 <panto> I don't remember exactly how that goes
Jun 20 11:37:57 <panto> is that angstrom btw?
Jun 20 11:38:00 <panto> or some other distro
Jun 20 11:38:12 <gwryan> anyone have a link to patches for the musb I can try? or is it probably a fool's errand?
Jun 20 11:38:23 <cityLights> iface wlan0 inet dhcp \n wireless_mode managed \n wireless_essid any \n wpa-driver wext \n wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
Jun 20 11:38:48 <cityLights> panto: yep , its angstrom
Jun 20 11:39:15 <panto> gwryan, check out patchwork for linux-omap
Jun 20 11:39:32 <panto> cityLights, can't remember now
Jun 20 11:39:37 <panto> check up with koen
Jun 20 11:39:46 <panto> plus it's lunch time
Jun 20 11:39:51 <cityLights> yes, where is koen?
Jun 20 11:39:56 <cityLights> ~seen koen
Jun 20 11:40:00 <av500> lunch
Jun 20 11:40:05 <av500> eating a fish sandwich
Jun 20 11:40:12 <cityLights> hmm , ok , then I also going to eat
Jun 20 11:40:18 <gwryan> thanks!
Jun 20 11:40:24 <cityLights> fish , hmm ok
Jun 20 12:11:27 <panto> all these crap kickstarter projects about arduino piss me off
Jun 20 12:12:04 <av500> crapstarter
Jun 20 12:16:29 <dm8tbr> people have realized, that they can substitute own initial investment by a half-baked marketing pitch on crapstarter
Jun 20 12:21:42 <jackmitchell> panto: +1
Jun 20 12:22:41 <jackmitchell> audrino_wifi_board_no18754 (now with unstandardised open source protocols!)
Jun 20 12:24:24 <panto> frankly I don't get the fascination with arduino
Jun 20 12:24:40 <das> prob. because you can read a datasheet
Jun 20 12:26:06 <av500> wat is datashet?
Jun 20 12:26:46 <jackmitchell> can datashet be read on Android 2?
Jun 20 12:27:10 <av500> ....Put the left over PCB into a reflow oven, and tip out rapidly to collect a whole bunch of SMD components to re-use....
Jun 20 12:27:19 <av500> right
Jun 20 12:27:38 <av500> smd resistors, assorted values
Jun 20 12:27:54 <av500> 2 pound bag for only $5
Jun 20 12:28:40 <panto> interesting
Jun 20 12:29:20 <panto> boy, PRU code space is really limited for C stuff
Jun 20 12:29:39 <panto> printf with all the options blows over the limit
Jun 20 12:30:38 <Russ> av500, you'd be surprised what it takes to get smd components to come off
Jun 20 12:31:28 <bradfa> Russ, hot air works nice, or hot tweezers
Jun 20 12:32:34 <bradfa> mourning, channel
Jun 20 12:32:51 <Russ> bradfa, right, but as far as a hands off approach, without touching the board
Jun 20 12:33:05 <Russ> or the component
Jun 20 12:33:08 * bradfa likes touching boards and components
Jun 20 12:33:35 <panto> we really could do without knowing that bit of info... :)
Jun 20 12:34:01 <bradfa> :)
Jun 20 12:34:20 <panto> nttiawwt
Jun 20 12:34:56 <bradfa> just don't tell mranostay
Jun 20 12:37:05 <georgem> I saw this and I immediately thought of #beagle http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvwvpoVgM91qft8qyo1_500.png
Jun 20 12:37:51 <jkridner|work> georgem: +1
Jun 20 12:37:53 <jkridner|work> :-D
Jun 20 12:38:04 <bradfa> georgem, and mranostay in particular?
Jun 20 12:39:23 <georgem> yes. lol
Jun 20 12:40:14 <av500> mranostay makes us all look bad
Jun 20 12:41:09 <jackmitchell> sets a precedent for the channel
Jun 20 12:41:38 <jackmitchell> it'd be as idealistic and helpful as #RasPi otherwise
Jun 20 12:45:58 <Russ> av500, why, what happened? Did mranostay stop drinking or something?
Jun 20 12:47:16 <av500> unlikely()
Jun 20 12:47:25 <cityLights> ~seen koen
Jun 20 12:47:50 <av500> it's a big fish
Jun 20 12:48:02 <cityLights> LOL
Jun 20 13:08:19 <Defiant> ezequielgarcia: Are you the stk1160 one?
Jun 20 13:09:45 <ezequielgarcia> Defiant: yeap
Jun 20 13:09:55 <mrpackethead> which trolls are still trolling
Jun 20 13:10:43 <ezequielgarcia> Defiant: if you have stk1160 issues, feel free to use the #v4l
Jun 20 13:12:20 <Defiant> ezequielgarcia: ok, just wanted to drop a thanks for your driver
Jun 20 13:34:48 <bradfa> mrpackethead, seems they're all sleeping under bridges right now
Jun 20 13:48:24 <carslan> How do I get suitable kernel headers for buildroot. It throws media.h error  when I try to configure media-ctl
Jun 20 13:48:49 <carslan> I forgot the question mark, please don't sue me
Jun 20 13:49:43 <av500> too late
Jun 20 13:49:48 <av500> my lawyer is involved
Jun 20 13:49:59 <carslan> darn it, this is the 3rd time today
Jun 20 13:50:03 <av500> carslan: buildroot installs kernel headers
Jun 20 13:50:38 <panto> av500, I have a hunch your lawyer is a bear
Jun 20 13:51:00 <carslan> Why does it say that the kernel headerh is not usable then?
Jun 20 13:54:57 <panto> shouldn't you ask that in the buildroot channel?
Jun 20 13:56:15 <av500> +1
Jun 20 13:57:01 <carslan> good point, thank you
Jun 20 13:59:49 <av500> lawsuit averted
Jun 20 14:00:26 <mrpackethead> panto: my bear is a lawyer.
Jun 20 14:01:14 <panto> give a new meaning to the term 'mauled by the law'
Jun 20 14:13:17 * av500 is debugging Magnastat
Jun 20 14:13:34 <emeb> yay?
Jun 20 14:14:21 <av500> $30 for a spare switch
Jun 20 14:14:28 <av500> or just clean the contacts
Jun 20 14:18:10 <av500> http://www.henri.de/werkstattbedarf/loettechnik/loetkolben-ersatzteile/ersatzteile-weller/14371/ersatzteil-weller-magnetschalter-tcp-we51020199.html
Jun 20 14:18:32 <cityLights> av500: I can get the BBB to connect to the wifi by issuing wpa_sup from the cli
Jun 20 14:18:51 <cityLights> but I hoped the device can achive wifi up-on boot
Jun 20 14:19:04 <cityLights> so, is koen free now?
Jun 20 14:19:17 <cityLights> and why doesn't this channel supprt ~seen?
Jun 20 14:20:19 <emeb> av500: is Magnastat a curie-temp based temp regulator?
Jun 20 14:22:54 <mranostay> morning
Jun 20 14:23:54 <panto> hi mranostay
Jun 20 14:27:59 <panto> hmm, PRU data memory is not arbitrated properly when accessed by the host while the PRUs are active
Jun 20 14:29:27 <mru> not even data?
Jun 20 14:29:53 <panto> no, that's not it
Jun 20 14:31:07 <ezequielgarcia> Defiant: you're welcome... does it work fine? no issues?
Jun 20 14:31:44 <mranostay> mru: we are back on topic?
Jun 20 14:32:07 <mru> no such thing
Jun 20 14:32:14 <Defiant> ezequielgarcia: I don't use it on a beagle. On a pandaboard it works.
Jun 20 14:32:44 * martinm interjected, "Qba'g urne, jr pna fubhg lbh"
Jun 20 14:32:44 <ezequielgarcia> Defiant: that's cool
Jun 20 14:35:34 <mrpackethead> topic
Jun 20 14:35:36 <mrpackethead> ?
Jun 20 14:36:36 <UK_space_trial> mt9p031 camera
Jun 20 14:37:28 <UK_space_trial> I have been trying to modify the exposure value on the beagleboard for several weeks now, and I can't seem to get a build of anstrom that allows me to change the value using Aptina's instructions.
Jun 20 14:38:28 <Defiant> ezequielgarcia: I havn't tried it with the BBB yet, but I guess it won't work well there without USB DMA
Jun 20 14:39:08 <UK_space_trial> When I finish the readme given by aptina, I gave a build but it's so barebone that I can't communicate with the camera, because the build does not have i2c packages. I've also tried a build by Max Galemin, but it does not have the packages needed to actaully perform the experiments I need.
Jun 20 14:39:54 <UK_space_trial> I'm using the beagleboard xm rev 3.  Forgot to mention that
Jun 20 15:03:48 <cityLights> well, I am about to head home
Jun 20 15:03:53 <Overlordanny> Hi all, I know the BBB has 4 GPIO connectors designated for timers but are these I/O or simply output timers? i.e. can i give the board an input timer? thanks!
Jun 20 15:04:02 <cityLights> av500: can you please call koen?
Jun 20 15:05:03 <av500> will the real koen please stand up
Jun 20 15:05:51 <cityLights> I ran opkg install connman-angstrom-settings connman-tools
Jun 20 15:06:16 <cityLights> in a desperate attempt to solve this
Jun 20 15:06:46 <av500> Overlordanny: what is an input timer?
Jun 20 15:08:03 <Overlordanny> like can i give the board a timer? the onboard one is too inaccurate for my purposes
Jun 20 15:08:19 <panto> what do you mean give the board a timer?
Jun 20 15:08:20 <Overlordanny> a timer input*
Jun 20 15:08:33 <panto> the timers are available
Jun 20 15:08:59 <panto> but there's no such capability in the drivers IIRC
Jun 20 15:09:04 <Overlordanny> but are the timer connections simply an output of the ARM 3558x processor?
Jun 20 15:09:04 <av500> you can connect a clock source
Jun 20 15:09:06 <panto> you might have to hack around in dm_timer
Jun 20 15:09:08 <av500> and get interrrupts
Jun 20 15:09:11 <Overlordanny> you can connect a clock source?
Jun 20 15:09:14 <Overlordanny> coooool thanks!
Jun 20 15:09:16 <av500> yes and no
Jun 20 15:09:20 <panto> no
Jun 20 15:09:22 <av500> to a GPIO
Jun 20 15:09:26 <av500> and get interrupts
Jun 20 15:09:27 <panto> what do you want to do exactly?
Jun 20 15:09:39 <av500> time timer timings
Jun 20 15:09:46 <Overlordanny> hmm k.
Jun 20 15:09:56 <av500> there is no external clock input
Jun 20 15:09:58 <av500> afaik
Jun 20 15:10:15 <Overlordanny> well I'm using it for data acquisition and I need like 100Khz accuracy
Jun 20 15:10:25 <av500> but you could use an external clock to measure you internal
Jun 20 15:10:25 <av500> and correct it
Jun 20 15:11:17 <Overlordanny> ok. internal clock is 32Khz right? but i've heard it's a pretty inaccurate oscillator
Jun 20 15:12:03 <panto> what are you measuring exactly
Jun 20 15:12:16 <panto> IIRC timers have that hardware capability
Jun 20 15:12:25 <panto> whether the drivers expose it that's another matter
Jun 20 15:12:35 <av500> there is a 24mhz xtal too
Jun 20 15:12:40 <Defiant> OMG http://sakuraboard.net/index_en.html
Jun 20 15:12:41 <Overlordanny> NSA secrets
Jun 20 15:12:41 <ka6sox> airspeed altitude of an unladen swallow
Jun 20 15:12:51 <panto> maybe eCAP would work best
Jun 20 15:12:55 <panto> but there's no driver for it
Jun 20 15:12:57 <av500> Defiant: yes, I have one :)
Jun 20 15:13:24 <Defiant> av500: you liked the color?
Jun 20 15:13:51 <av500> the board is pink, very nice
Jun 20 15:15:03 <av500> wow, 29 exact steps
Jun 20 15:16:43 * Defiant wonders is there is a board av500 doesn't have
Jun 20 15:17:14 <av500> :)
Jun 20 15:17:26 <av500> I totally forgot about it
Jun 20 15:17:31 <av500> signed up at some website
Jun 20 15:17:45 <av500> dont even remeber when
Jun 20 15:18:04 <av500> https://www.miniand.com/products/Cubieboard A20 Dev Board
Jun 20 15:18:09 <av500> I dont have this one
Jun 20 15:21:02 <Defiant> I hate the Allwinner numbering..A10 has an A8
Jun 20 15:21:43 <av500> yes
Jun 20 15:21:47 <av500> a31 has 4x A9
Jun 20 15:21:54 <av500> a30 has 2x A9
Jun 20 15:22:00 <ka6sox> and they have a Pet too.
Jun 20 15:22:56 <ka6sox> av500, its a good thing I have a Day Job....
Jun 20 15:51:14 <riskable> How many BeagleBones have shipped to date?  Anyone know?
Jun 20 15:51:23 <riskable> ...including the BBB
Jun 20 15:52:43 <mranostay> 42
Jun 20 15:52:50 <riskable> Hah
Jun 20 15:53:08 <riskable> I thought koen might know :)
Jun 20 15:54:36 <cityLights> Dear koen, by the time you will see this, I will be long away . If you find it in your heart to help a lost soul as me to figure out how to use a USB wifi stick on boot on the BBB
Jun 20 15:54:45 <cityLights> please say how.
Jun 20 15:54:56 <cityLights> until then , Goodbye.
Jun 20 15:55:48 <panto> that was beautiful
Jun 20 15:56:08 <panto> cityLights for the Lit Nobel price
Jun 20 15:56:12 <carslan> that was painful to look at
Jun 20 15:56:17 <Spirilis> huh - Is there any good reason why /dev/ttyO4 can't be set to 31250 (MIDI baud rate)?
Jun 20 15:56:32 <Spirilis> can set it to 9600, 115200 ..... no go on 31250 (invalid argument)
Jun 20 15:56:34 <panto> divisor issues?
Jun 20 15:56:46 <panto> 31250 looks like a weird baudrate
Jun 20 15:56:52 <Spirilis> yeah, it's MIDI
Jun 20 15:57:31 <Spirilis> it's an even divisor of round numbers, e.g. 1000000 / 32 = 31250
Jun 20 15:58:01 <_av500_> does linux support random baud rates?
Jun 20 15:58:42 <Spirilis> well I guess if it doesn't, then I'll be stuck doing some ghetto MSP430 man-in-the-middle or something.
Jun 20 15:58:47 <_av500_> no
Jun 20 15:58:51 <_av500_> its just SW
Jun 20 15:58:57 <_av500_> there is no need for an msp430
Jun 20 15:59:11 <panto> hmm, what is the user space interface
Jun 20 15:59:31 <_av500_> /dev/hayes
Jun 20 15:59:33 <panto> I don't know if termios has that rate as
Jun 20 15:59:50 <Spirilis> ah k, but there might be another syscall way to hit it?
Jun 20 16:00:02 <_av500_> or hack the kernel
Jun 20 16:00:18 <Spirilis> come to think of it I should just look up the playmidi software since I'll need it at some point anyhow.  maybe that has the support built in
Jun 20 16:00:44 <_av500_> I did that for omap3 in the past to get my 1mbit
Jun 20 16:01:01 <_av500_> but recent kernels support baud=1000000
Jun 20 16:01:50 <Spirilis> oh, durr, guess this explains something.  alsa's used to having kernel-sanctioned MIDI hardware available to do its thing
Jun 20 16:02:11 <Spirilis> wonder if there exists any OMAP UART-to-MIDI adapter drivers
Jun 20 16:02:35 <panto> Spirilis, I'm pretty sure the h/w can support that rate
Jun 20 16:02:43 <Spirilis> yeah I'd be shocked if it couldn't.
Jun 20 16:02:44 <panto> you have to find out how to set it though
Jun 20 16:02:56 <panto> termios is a pretty ancient interface
Jun 20 16:03:05 <Spirilis> ok thanks guys, time to dive deep
Jun 20 16:03:35 * mranostay hands Spirilis some scuba gear
Jun 20 16:07:31 <Spirilis> I guess an extra ghetto way is to write a secondary dto to bang the correct register bits for the UART.... lol
Jun 20 16:07:52 * Spirilis might have to pull his pants down halfway before writing that
Jun 20 16:15:32 <Spirilis> yargh, not as easy as I thought.  takes a sequence of bitbangs to get there.
Jun 20 16:17:24 <mranostay> too early in the morning for bit-banging
Jun 20 16:48:59 <bb1> How to synchronize two beaglebones? I want to use one redundant beaglebone in my design but both of BBs should be synchronized
Jun 20 16:49:18 <jkridner|work> bb1: what aspect do you want synchronized?
Jun 20 16:49:26 <bb1> clock
Jun 20 16:49:38 <jkridner|work> ntp?
Jun 20 16:49:51 <bb1> the control signals should be exactly at the same time
Jun 20 16:49:59 <jkridner|work> how exact is exact?
Jun 20 16:50:14 <jkridner|work> zero tolerance is an invalid answer.
Jun 20 16:50:24 <bb1> ms accuracy is fine not very exact
Jun 20 16:50:35 <georgem> use ptp
Jun 20 16:50:36 <jkridner|work> check out ntp.
Jun 20 16:50:46 <georgem> if you want better than ntp
Jun 20 16:51:04 <jkridner|work> georgem: never heard of it.  quick google gets bogus results.
Jun 20 16:51:18 <jkridner|work> ah, http://www.fsmlabs.com/blog/choosing-between-ptp-and-ntp
Jun 20 16:51:38 <bb1> thanks for the help
Jun 20 16:51:48 <georgem> IEEE 1588 v2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Time_Protocol
Jun 20 16:52:13 <georgem> good luck getting hardware timestamping to work... although am335x technically does support it
Jun 20 16:53:11 <fabry> ciao
Jun 20 16:57:05 <Spirilis> meh, finally getting off my butt and building a linux VM for doing source & kernel compiles for the 'black.
Jun 20 16:57:42 <Spirilis> jkridner|work: random Q if you're listening, ever seen anyone look into using the UARTs for midi work?
Jun 20 17:01:53 <vaizki_> model name	: ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
Jun 20 17:01:59 <vaizki_> jei.. got them.
Jun 20 17:02:55 <vaizki_> spirilis, you could use a PRU for midi?
Jun 20 17:03:18 <Spirilis> vaizki_: just to read/write the interface from linux or from alsa's midi tools, seems excessive to use the PRU for that.
Jun 20 17:03:34 <Spirilis> especially since the UART should be perfectly capable of doing 31250 8/N/1
Jun 20 17:04:33 <vaizki_> well if it is, then what's there to look into?
Jun 20 17:05:05 <vaizki_> unless you mean hacking the kernel to allow 31250
Jun 20 17:05:05 <Spirilis> software side doesn't work.  stty doesn't let you set a UART to 31250, and typically midi apps use ALSA's sequencer interface which require a kernel driver that supports talking like a sequencer.
Jun 20 17:05:10 <Spirilis> yeah
Jun 20 17:05:35 <vaizki_> did you try the ioctl directly? TIOCCSERIAL
Jun 20 17:05:40 <Spirilis> seems like it'd be straightforward for a driver using the uart to expose such an interface, just I was curious if anyone's written one yet.
Jun 20 17:05:41 <vaizki_> TIOCSSERIAL evel
Jun 20 17:05:44 <vaizki_> EVEN.. dammit
Jun 20 17:05:55 <Spirilis> I've not.  Collecting info now, not doing any coding...
Jun 20 17:07:44 <vaizki_> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/beagleboard/uV7tIUwzKOk
Jun 20 17:07:50 <vaizki_> seems like someone was there
Jun 20 17:08:22 <Spirilis> ah, I see.
Jun 20 17:08:24 <Spirilis> thanks
Jun 20 17:08:46 <Spirilis> alas, not going that route, so I am going to have to dive into kernel land and look into writing a seq driver for it.
Jun 20 17:09:07 <vaizki_> that's the spirit
Jun 20 17:17:45 <jkridner|work> Spirilis: yes, I have seen some folks use the UARTs for MIDI.
Jun 20 17:18:38 <Spirilis> jkridner|work: ah k, cool.  I'm assuming nobody put together an ALSA sequencer driver variant for the omap uart?
Jun 20 17:19:04 <jkridner|work> why would they need to?
Jun 20 17:19:34 <Spirilis> to use stock seq progs I guess, that use /dev/seq/ et al.  Well I dunno, if you're just doing basic stuff you can roll your own entirely and use the /dev/ttyOx...
Jun 20 17:22:17 <jkridner|work> seems that everyone that has done it needed to hack up the device driver anyway.
Jun 20 17:22:26 <Spirilis> gotcha
Jun 20 17:22:36 <jkridner|work> 31250 isn't a baud rate supported by default it seems.
Jun 20 17:22:39 <Spirilis> ah well, this'll be fun :)
Jun 20 17:22:40 <Spirilis> yeah
Jun 20 17:23:38 <cityLights> koen: hi
Jun 20 17:27:43 <jkridner|work> Spirilis: most people seem to just connect USB MIDI controllers, but that is boring.
Jun 20 17:27:54 <vaizki_> spirilis, maybe look in TI's arago for serial8250
Jun 20 17:28:17 <vaizki_> I still think you should do it with a PRU because that's even less boring than kernel hacking
Jun 20 17:28:18 <Spirilis> jkridner|work: yep, totally agreed.  I have an interface right now, a "bb launchpad cape" and RobG's MIDI boosterpack from 43oh.com so it has the optoisolators et al already rigged together.
Jun 20 17:29:44 <Spirilis> ultimate goal is to eventually hack together a synthesizer app that uses samples I record from my drumset in the basement and spits it out in response to a midi drumkit (plus fixing a little "glitch" in the drumkit's midi, but that's a separate problem)
Jun 20 17:51:16 <martinm> picking cherries for pie
Jun 20 17:51:33 * martinm grumps.... this sin't the google bar...
Jun 20 17:54:48 <mranostay> at least you weren't typing anything else..
Jun 20 17:58:06 <martinm> yes, the llamas and alpacas are safe for now
Jun 20 18:05:02 <codd7> Hi. Is the board revision written somewhere on the board? I have a beagleboard-xm
Jun 20 18:07:09 <jkridner|work> codd7: typically on the Ethernet jack.
Jun 20 18:10:39 <codd7> it says "LINK-PP", "LPJ1026AGNL", and "1229" - they seem to be the model number for the ethernet jack itself?
Jun 20 18:11:42 <codd7> A sticker near the ethernet jack says "00" and another near the reset button says "C2"
Jun 20 18:19:43 <codd7> jkridner|work hmm?
Jun 20 18:54:18 <cedric_> hello
Jun 20 18:57:35 <cedric_> I design a cape , and I find the location of the connector j1 from the P8 connector millimeter
Jun 20 18:58:07 <cedric_> Does someone could tell me?
Jun 20 19:05:29 <_av500_> in the gerbers
Jun 20 19:05:56 <_av500_> cedric_: or search the channel logs
Jun 20 19:06:03 <_av500_> it was asked and answered a few days ago
Jun 20 19:06:11 <_av500_> but I forgot
Jun 20 19:06:38 <mranostay> _av500_: beer?
Jun 20 19:09:15 <mranostay> wmat: maple syrup dude
Jun 20 19:09:54 <wmat> mranostay: yup
Jun 20 19:10:29 <jkridner|work> codd7: C2 then
Jun 20 19:12:48 <mranostay> wmat: hmm i should try a maple and crown
Jun 20 19:14:50 <wmat> mranostay: maple and anything
Jun 20 19:24:02 <mranostay> wmat: how about Mrs. Buttersworth?
Jun 20 19:24:16 <mranostay> that is almost as good as real maple syrup right? :)
Jun 20 19:24:45 <mranostay> like Hersey's is almost as good as swiss chocolcate, right KotH?
Jun 20 19:29:56 <vaizki_> heresy :P
Jun 20 19:29:58 <cedric_> _av500_ : with which open gerber and measure?
Jun 20 19:35:17 <vaizki_> there are DXF files in the ZIPs that you find for the PCB details
Jun 20 19:35:23 <vaizki_> look inside them
Jun 20 19:36:10 <KotH> mranostay: yes, like dying from lepper and a month long, fully paid holliday on the maledives are the same
Jun 20 19:36:29 <vaizki_> ok what is lepper?
Jun 20 19:36:53 <vaizki_> oh leprosy
Jun 20 19:37:07 <KotH> er.. yes..
Jun 20 19:37:10 <KotH> sorry..
Jun 20 19:37:13 <mranostay> KotH: what is your address. need to send chocolate
Jun 20 19:37:26 <KotH> mranostay: i wont touch hersey with a 10m pole
Jun 20 19:37:38 <mranostay> hey even koen likes Bud Light
Jun 20 19:37:54 <vaizki_> what about beer, does he like beer?
Jun 20 19:37:56 <SpeedEvil> Leprosy is readily treatable with the cheapest antibiotics
Jun 20 19:38:15 <KotH> SpeedEvil: yes, but's a very awfull death...
Jun 20 19:38:19 <mranostay> vaizki_: i never drink the stuff
Jun 20 19:38:28 <mranostay> straight edge all the way
Jun 20 19:38:55 <KotH> mranostay: and finding my address is an easy exercise for anyone who knows how to use the publicly stored information on the intarwebz
Jun 20 19:38:59 <vaizki_> ok but I'm off to Midsummer frolicking and yes there will be beer.
Jun 20 19:38:59 <bclerc> I beleive my beagleboard has bricked, i have no video no input device is being recognized, any suggestions
Jun 20 19:39:30 <mranostay> skipping with beer?
Jun 20 19:39:30 <KotH> bclerc: attach a serial cable and see what it prints
Jun 20 19:39:44 <bclerc> ok
Jun 20 19:48:18 <mranostay> last day for LinuxCon submissions isn't it?
Jun 20 19:53:19 <KotH> wasnt that end of july?
Jun 20 19:53:45 <KotH> All submissions must be received by July 21, 2013 at 11:55pm (GMT).
Jun 20 20:21:17 <mranostay> KotH: ELC-E != LinuxCon
Jun 20 20:21:47 <KotH> ah.. you meant the one in mordor
Jun 20 20:21:52 <KotH> sorry, dont care about that ;->
Jun 20 20:23:02 <Stanto> Ugh, so, I forgot to patch dtc in the debian image for the beaglebone black, which explains why I haven't been able to pinmux properly
Jun 20 20:23:10 <Stanto> I think
Jun 20 20:23:13 <mranostay> KotH: bite me
Jun 20 20:23:19 <Stanto> I may need to do the uboot and kernel too, I'm not certain
Jun 20 20:24:23 <Stanto> Anyone tried messing with debian on beaglebone black?
Jun 20 20:24:25 <KotH> mranostay: i let panto bite you, i guess he must be starving right now in .gr
Jun 20 20:27:09 <mranostay> KotH: still better than  a turk :P
Jun 20 20:29:19 <KotH> mranostay: turks dont need to take a bite from lowly, beer feed beings like you. because they are rioting for political reasons, not because they are not getting any money from the EU anymore
Jun 20 20:29:59 <Rickta59> Stanto: m_billybob seems to like it
Jun 20 20:30:38 <_Sy_> Hello all
Jun 20 20:30:48 <djlewis> hello one
Jun 20 20:31:44 <_Sy_> :)
Jun 20 20:31:58 <KotH> hello off by one
Jun 20 20:32:22 <mranostay> KotH: boo hoo
Jun 20 20:32:31 <_Sy_> Finally got broadband back.
Jun 20 20:32:38 * mranostay is packing 
Jun 20 20:32:44 <mranostay> Hershey's for KotH
Jun 20 20:32:54 <_Sy_> If you can call it that...download only .63MB
Jun 20 20:36:30 <_Sy_> nite nite
Jun 20 20:38:22 <_av500_> yay, tropical storm
Jun 20 20:44:15 <droidgeek> Hello
Jun 20 20:45:09 <droidgeek> Is anybody there?
Jun 20 20:45:53 <kfoltman> Nothing but us trolls.
Jun 20 20:46:47 <droidgeek> Can you explain anything about beagleboard black?
Jun 20 20:47:07 <droidgeek> Is it a sort of device?
Jun 20 20:47:26 <wmat> that reminds me
Jun 20 20:47:45 <wmat> mranostay: invite me to the troll community already!
Jun 20 20:47:58 <kfoltman> wmat: are you ready to move under the bridge?
Jun 20 20:48:16 <Defiant> droidgeek: Yes, the BBB is an USB Device if you want it to be
Jun 20 20:48:18 <droidgeek> Actually i was asking for beaglebone..
Jun 20 20:48:19 <kfoltman> or, to start living under the bridge, to be more precise
Jun 20 20:48:56 <wmat> kfoltman: of course
Jun 20 20:49:07 <wmat> kfoltman: luckily, i like goat as well
Jun 20 20:49:56 <droidgeek> <Defiant> What is it used for? Can you elaborate please..
Jun 20 20:50:35 <kfoltman> droidgeek: I mainly use it to illuminate the room in brightish blue
Jun 20 20:50:54 <Defiant> droidgeek: I use it in my world domination project
Jun 20 20:52:00 <panto> back
Jun 20 20:52:07 <droidgeek> Are you talking about SoC project?
Jun 20 20:52:32 <kfoltman> Defiant is designing his/her own SoC? ambitious goal ;)
Jun 20 20:53:06 <Defiant> what?
Jun 20 20:53:33 <SpeedEvil> Well - there is someone over on ##electronics doing his own processor design and novel security architecture into a laptop.
Jun 20 20:53:40 <SpeedEvil> (Though admittedly into a FPGA
Jun 20 20:53:56 <Defiant> which limits the speed to about 200mhz
Jun 20 20:54:11 <Defiant> I stay with the Zynq-7000
Jun 20 20:54:15 <droidgeek> Defiant: I mean Google Summer of Code..are you a mentor or a student?
Jun 20 20:54:16 <SpeedEvil> It's a bit faster than that IIRC
Jun 20 20:54:27 <kfoltman> SpeedEvil: I only know about the guy who is designing an Ethernet switch (azonenberg)
Jun 20 20:54:30 <SpeedEvil> And of course, you can parallelise somewhat
Jun 20 20:54:32 <Defiant> droidgeek: aah different SoC..none
Jun 20 20:54:38 <SpeedEvil> his other project is a laptop
Jun 20 20:54:47 <Defiant> droidgeek: SoC for me is System on Chip
Jun 20 20:55:20 <wmat> isn't it for everyone?
Jun 20 20:55:39 * wmat notes scrollback
Jun 20 20:55:57 <kfoltman> Well, you'd expect that interpretation in a channel that is about a dev board that incorporates a system-on-chip ;)
Jun 20 20:55:58 <wmat> GSoC != SoC
Jun 20 20:56:50 <droidgeek> Defiant: O that's good. Actually I was looking for some idea for a potential Summer of Code project of mine, the next year..And I was wondering if Beagleboard community could be of any help to me as a mentor..
Jun 20 20:57:37 <droidgeek> wmat: That's correct. I got it, lately though..;)
Jun 20 20:58:25 <wmat> no worries
Jun 20 20:58:36 <wmat> I wish they'd do Google Life of Code
Jun 20 20:58:49 <wmat> a summer just seems so short
Jun 20 20:59:08 <droidgeek> Hey guys, I'm a noob blogger. Would you mind leaving a feedback, on www.androidandroting.blogspot.com ?
Jun 20 21:00:20 <tim_d[o_0]b> I'm in the middle of flashing my BBB with Ubuntu… Does anyone know if 2 solid LEDs is indicative of anything? Is there a problem, or should I just wait a while longer until all 4 are lit up?
Jun 20 21:00:29 <droidgeek> wmat: lol..yeah you're right! And for some it takes half a decade or so for trying and getting into that GSoC..:P
Jun 20 21:01:12 <wmat> droidgeek: you're url 404s
Jun 20 21:05:23 <droidgeek> wmat: Let my paste it again.. http://androidandrooting.blogspot.in/
Jun 20 21:05:39 <cmicali> has anyone seen dropbear suddenly not accepting new connections
Jun 20 21:05:49 <cmicali> no log messages, just silent death?
Jun 20 21:09:56 <wmat> droidgeek: tip - you navigation font is painfully bad
Jun 20 21:12:11 <a_jain> I'm trying to run Android on the Black. I was trying to get it to flash onto the eMMC, but when I followed the instructions online, none of the user LEDs were starting up, and Android never booted. How could I get Android to boot on the BeagleBone Black?
Jun 20 21:12:39 <a_jain> I was trying from this link: http://icculus.org/~hendersa/android/
Jun 20 21:13:40 <droidgeek> wmat: And what about the layout, content?
Jun 20 21:14:47 <wmat> droidgeek: fine
Jun 20 21:15:00 <wmat> droidgeek: where's the beagle connection?
Jun 20 21:16:47 <droidgeek> wmat: Sorry, I didn't get you?
Jun 20 21:17:29 <wmat> droidgeek: you're soliciting feedback on your blog in an IRC channel dedicated to the beagleboard, so I'm curious where the connection is?
Jun 20 21:20:44 <dk-> I don't know if this is the wrong place for general ARM-questions. I'm mucking about with the BBB and don't see how I can branch to user mode and keep kernel space unreadable from user-mode. If I set the TTB register and set user mode, the branch instruction after that jumps to the user process won't be readable. Sorry again if this is the wrong place :)
Jun 20 21:22:03 <droidgeek> wmat: Actually I'm a newbie for this community, and was looking for ideas for GSoC on some website, when I came to know about Beagleboard as a mentoring organisation..That blog feedback was an odd move.
Jun 20 21:27:29 <levi> dk-: I don't have a specific answer for you, but I've found the ARM technical documentation to be pretty thorough and it's freely available.
Jun 20 21:35:26 <dk-> levi: Thanks. I've read a bit in the docs but of course I can't claim to have read it all :) But from what I can see it's mostly how to do each single step (which I get), and not so much on how to put it all together, which I suspect is more of an implementation issue. And so I'm a bit curious on how this is usually implemented. But I'll have a more thorough look in the docs, as I said I've only read fraction of it.
Jun 20 21:38:51 <levi> dk-: My only other suggestion would be to look for some sample code from a free RTOS or something like that.
Jun 20 21:39:27 <dk-> levi: Okay, thanks for the tip :)
Jun 20 21:42:20 <levi> Sorry I don't have anything more than meta-advice, but those are the places I'd look.
Jun 20 21:48:25 <mranostay> mrpackethead: hey kiwi
Jun 20 21:49:08 <dk-> levi: Information on where to look is the best kind :)
Jun 20 22:13:31 <droidgeek> Hey guys, I'm a noob blogger. Would you mind leaving a feedback, on www.androidandroting.blogspot.com ?
Jun 20 22:15:17 <droidgeek> Sorry, that link won't work..This one's fine: www.androidandrooting.blogspot.com
Jun 20 22:20:18 <_av500_> and?
Jun 20 22:21:19 <thurgood> ... no?
Jun 20 22:24:21 <eklo> How do I change the runlevel to text on the BBB with Ubuntu. I've changed /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf from 2 to 1 but then the board doesn't boot.
Jun 20 22:26:36 <_av500_> #ubuntu
Jun 20 22:31:38 <ds2> so if you utter #ubuntu 3 times quickly, does a genie come out?
Jun 20 22:32:00 <eklo> no, a penguin dies
Jun 20 22:53:09 <emeb> Michael Keaton shows up and causes trouble?
Jun 20 22:54:08 <ds2> full moon?
Jun 20 23:20:55 <bleeter> lol eklo
Jun 20 23:21:16 <bleeter> well more a genuine 'hah' than 'lol'
Jun 20 23:43:17 <kaektech> Howdy trolls, hobbits, and jihadists
Jun 20 23:44:25 <martinm> today's special appears to be Hershey lovers
Jun 21 00:36:35 <pesce> Hello all, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for me.  I updated my beaglebone black rev A5A using demo_beaglebone_BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.06.06.img, and it successfully flashed the eMMC.  however, now it will not mount as an USB drive on windows 7.  I am able to ssh to it, and access cloud9.
Jun 21 00:47:02 <pesce> additionally, I can mount /media/BEAGLEBONE (/dev/mmcblk0p1) and the files are there.
Jun 21 00:57:10 <pesce> I apologize, but I must run... Thank you
Jun 21 01:34:57 <mrpackethead> anyone seen Eric?
Jun 21 01:46:42 <keatont> Anyone having any luck with the BBB (Beaglebone black.)
Jun 21 01:49:01 <prpplague> keatont: luck with what?
Jun 21 01:49:12 <keatont> the beagle bone black
Jun 21 01:49:30 <prpplague> *cough*
Jun 21 01:49:37 <prpplague> keatont: what on the beaglebone black?
Jun 21 01:49:44 <agreve> keatont: your question wins the "ambiguous to the extreme" award.
Jun 21 01:50:06 <keatont> Oh come on, I was just trying to get a general idea of what perception is...
Jun 21 01:51:03 <agreve> my perception is that it's a little computer with decent mainline linux support.
Jun 21 01:52:03 <agreve> and pretty rad specs for the price.
Jun 21 01:54:03 <myself> if by "luck" you mean "scoring with members of the opposite sex", then I have yet to hear the BBB implicated in any such encounters :p
Jun 21 01:57:53 <martinm> yeah, it's not what you'd call promiscuous
Jun 21 01:57:56 <agreve> ^^ agreed. my wife actually hates it when i mention anything related to embedded linux.
Jun 21 02:06:02 <agreve> seriously. what f'n year is it!?
Jun 21 02:06:54 <agreve> wrong windewww
Jun 21 02:10:40 <Guest92718> Newbie with new BBB.  Updated with the latest Angstrom release.  Accessed board via browser OK.  BBB will not respond to Cloud9 IDE - port 3000. Same results for Window and Linus client, USB or Ethernet I/F.  Any thoughts???  Appreciate your help.
Jun 21 02:11:41 <martinm> how about ssh?
Jun 21 02:12:21 <martinm> it's the year of the dog, obviously ;-)
Jun 21 02:13:47 <Guest92718> I'm sorry - please define ssh // how to restart
Jun 21 02:15:13 <bobvader505> Hi, I just updated the image on my beagle bone black to the Angstrom June 6th image, it was my understanding that the image had gnome and cloud9 IDE on it.  After flashing the eMMC and plugging in my LED3 it boots to the kernel and I cant connect to it via 192.168.7.2
Jun 21 02:16:00 * martinm makes a note to avoid the June 6th Ansgstrom image
Jun 21 02:16:43 <Guest92718> Is there a later or earlier version prefered?
Jun 21 02:18:51 <bobvader505> Any input?
Jun 21 02:22:19 <Guest92718> How can I get a previous version to overwrite the to-be-avoided June 6th release
Jun 21 02:23:15 <martinm> hmmm.... I don't know that the June 6th is bad, but having two independent trouble reports at the same time.... the comment was half tongue in cheek
Jun 21 02:23:35 <martinm> bobvader505 LED3?
Jun 21 02:23:45 <bobvader505> LCD3 my mistake
Jun 21 02:23:48 <martinm> ah
Jun 21 02:24:10 <myself> Guest92718: hold the user/boot button and it'll boot from the SD slot instead, so just throw something valid in there
Jun 21 02:24:13 <bobvader505> the circuitco compatibility site says you have to update to the 6-6 image for it to work
Jun 21 02:24:20 <bobvader505> which it does now work
Jun 21 02:24:26 <bobvader505> but it boots into the kernel
Jun 21 02:24:49 <martinm> so LCD is still working?  do you get a console on it so you can see what's going on?
Jun 21 02:25:04 <bobvader505> I get a console
Jun 21 02:25:11 <bobvader505> but no information
Jun 21 02:25:28 <bobvader505> it just goes straight to the login screen
Jun 21 02:26:08 <martinm> how about connecting over the real ethernet?  it should acquire a local address from DHCP
Jun 21 02:26:27 <bobvader505> let me try
Jun 21 02:27:10 <martinm> oh, of course - it's for the GUI.  guess you could login there and peruse dmesg's output and so forth, but no way to cut and paste it
Jun 21 02:27:59 <bobvader505> sorry, what?
Jun 21 02:29:27 <martinm> uhm...  dmesg?  kern.log?  this lil' board is more of a developer's toy than a polished product
Jun 21 02:29:34 <Guest92718> Is the production Angstrom image available somewhere?
Jun 21 02:29:48 <martinm> FWIW, by blackbone seems to have a May 20th kernel build
Jun 21 02:30:49 <Guest92718> Where is FWIW
Jun 21 02:31:00 <bobvader505> For what its worth
Jun 21 02:31:09 <bobvader505> For what it's worth
Jun 21 02:32:31 <bobvader505> I'm not a Linux Power user.  I understand the capabilities, but the advertised use of the 6-6 image is different than what it actually provides.  I was just making sure I wasnt missing anything
Jun 21 02:32:36 <Guest92718> Sorry where does Beaglebone have that image hiding
Jun 21 02:33:41 <martinm> it's what was installed in the on-board flash when I received it a few days ago
Jun 21 02:34:25 <martinm> the kernel is in /boot, or you can run   cat </proc/version  to see what's currently running
Jun 21 02:35:03 <martinm> not a lot of info there, but it does let us know that koen gets the blame for it :-)
Jun 21 02:36:21 <Guest92718> I overwrote the memory with the June 6th release - are you saying the original still there?
Jun 21 02:36:29 <martinm> no
Jun 21 02:40:28 <Guest92718> OK - does BB archive old releases to facilitate rolling back?
Jun 21 02:41:03 <martinm> nope.  you could archive the micro SD card you used for each install, I suppose
Jun 21 02:41:54 <martinm> hey, did you guys both say you used the June 6th image, or did I slip from month 6 to day 6 by mistake?
Jun 21 02:42:10 <bobvader505> ignore me
Jun 21 02:42:14 <bobvader505> I figured my issue out
Jun 21 02:42:26 <Guest92718> Yeah - but did not have an earlier version on SD!!!
Jun 21 02:42:41 <martinm> oh, good!  want to share?  truly unique errors are rare
Jun 21 02:42:44 <Guest92718> We loaded the June 6th release
Jun 21 02:43:13 <martinm> has them going back to the 5/20 that was shipped on mine  http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software
Jun 21 02:43:14 <bobvader505> Actually, just a second. I might have spoke too soon. I am making headway though
Jun 21 02:43:35 <martinm> also, the current release is now 6/20
Jun 21 02:44:18 <Guest92718> Great - should have known - I'll check it out
Jun 21 02:45:09 <bobvader505> do you have a link to the 6/20 release
Jun 21 02:45:10 <bobvader505> I dont see it
Jun 21 02:45:11 <martinm> actually, you could just save a copy of the image files on your hard drive, no need to tie up the card
Jun 21 02:45:19 <martinm> bottom of that page
Jun 21 02:45:26 <martinm> er. top of the pile
Jun 21 02:45:32 <martinm> 5/20 is at the bottom
Jun 21 02:46:27 <martinm> file itself: https://s3.amazonaws.com/angstrom/demo/beaglebone/BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.06.20.img.xz
Jun 21 02:46:39 <bobvader505> thank you
Jun 21 02:47:34 <Guest92718> Thank you - appreciate your interest/help on this one
Jun 21 02:48:27 <martinm> it's all learning, one way or another.  hope this helps with your issues - maybe 6/6 really was problematic
Jun 21 02:49:41 <bobvader505> So this is what i am finding right now.  If I leave my SD card in the slot, I boot into the kernel.  If I remove the SD card then I don't boot at all.  Note: I did flash the image to the eMMC
Jun 21 02:50:18 <baboo> i had to press the reset button
Jun 21 02:50:22 <martinm> that sounds rather as though something's not right with the image in the emmc
Jun 21 02:50:33 <martinm> oh noes, not the reset!
Jun 21 02:50:46 <baboo> it worked somehow
Jun 21 02:51:11 <Guest92718> I'll report back - where best to post the trouble report?
Jun 21 02:51:16 <bobvader505> baboo are you talking about my problem, or another one?
Jun 21 02:51:26 <baboo> bobvader505, yours
Jun 21 02:51:42 <martinm> bobvader505: has the board been power cycled - not just reset - since you flashed?  the choice the "boot button" makes is only changed at a power cycle
Jun 21 02:52:06 <martinm> ...which is a little strange, but, well, embedded hardware often is strange
Jun 21 02:52:09 <bobvader505> yes I have power cycled
Jun 21 02:53:40 <bobvader505> I am going to go ahead and assume that this didnt flash right
Jun 21 02:53:53 <bobvader505> because without the SD card its like I am dealing with a bricked device
Jun 21 02:53:59 <bobvader505> the LEDs remain solid
Jun 21 02:55:01 <bobvader505> oh well. I am going to try the new image in the morning. Thank you martinm and baboo for your help
Jun 21 02:55:26 <baboo> you
Jun 21 02:55:30 <baboo> oops
Jun 21 02:55:36 <baboo> you're welcome
Jun 21 02:55:43 <bobvader505> lol
Jun 21 02:55:51 <martinm> yeah, see if it looks better tomorrow
Jun 21 02:56:41 <martinm> oh, say, you have seen the warnings about flashing being kinda of iffy on USB-only power?
Jun 21 02:56:59 <baboo> bobvader505, for my trick, i unplugged and replugged before resetting
Jun 21 02:57:09 <baboo> i used usb
Jun 21 02:57:48 <martinm> yeah, it doesn't have to fail, just possible.  also depends on how much more than 500mA the port will allow - there's some uncertaintly there
Jun 21 02:58:52 <fzombie> Hi I just got my beaglebone black in the mail! I'm excited!
Jun 21 02:58:59 <bobvader505> I haven't seen that
Jun 21 02:59:12 <bobvader505> Ill have to wait until tomorrow then because my 5v PS is at work
Jun 21 02:59:36 <baboo> yeah mine isn't showing up as a tty device
Jun 21 02:59:56 <fzombie> I plugged it in the USB and I was able to connect to that first web page but im wondering does the default image come with the ability to use a HDMI monitor?
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